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Mission SONlight Chatt Season 4 Ep. 32 Mario Ceballos - Medical Cadet Corps and World Service Organization · Mission SONlight CHATT

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Welcome to Network 7's Mission Sunlight Chat.
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We are at the General Conference Session in St.
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Louis, Missouri, here in the United States. Wherever
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you are around the world, we are thankful and
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glad to have you along. I'm your host, Christopher
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Beeson, Jordan Wagner over at The Controls, and
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we're taking a look at the exhibit hall, and
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certainly those that are listening can hear in
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the background hundreds, literally hundreds of
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visitors, excuse me, hundreds of exhibitors with
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thousands of visitors who are sharing and talking
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about ministry and what the Lord is doing around
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the world. Remember, you can always connect with
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us at missionsunlight .org. You can text us at
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1 -423 -855 -4877 and email us at hello at missionsunlight
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.org. One of those ministries that's literally
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from around the world is Adventist Chaplaincy
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Ministries. The retired director of ACM, Mario
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Ceballos, did I say it correctly? Yes, you did.
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All right. You are here to share with us, even
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in retirement, one of your passions is the Medical
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Cadet Corps. Yes. And I want to know more about
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what that is. We're going to talk about that
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quite extensively in our second segment. But
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first, I'm going to ask you to tell us a little
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bit about your own personal journey and how you
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met Jesus. And before we do any of that, let's
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begin with a word of prayer. Dear Heavenly Father,
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we thank you, O God, for the many blessings that
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you have given us, undeserving sometimes. Lord,
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be with us as we share what the church can do
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for the community and has done in my life. In
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Jesus' name I pray, amen. Amen. Now, Mario, before
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we get started, I just want to tell the folks
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at home that we're friends. We've worked together
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for a number of years, and even though you're
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in that very nice uniform, for those that are
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watching, you're really relaxed. Nice kind of
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guy. Thank you. We've enjoyed some challenges
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and some laughter together for sure through the
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years. Mario, you haven't always been a chaplain.
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You haven't always been in the ministry, as we
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say. Tell us about your early years. Well, I
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am the son of a minister, but never planned in
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my childhood to be a pastor. As I was growing
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up, going through high school, I wanted to be
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a physician, a doctor, a medical doctor. But
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something changed my life when I was in high
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school. The treasurer of the academy that I was
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attending to, he had a mission. And his mission
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was to look at small churches around the academy
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in South America and Venezuela that didn't have
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a full -time pastor. And he offered the conference
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to go and preach. And he collected some of us,
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and he asked me, will you come and preach? And
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I said, I've never preached in my life. That's
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not what I want to do. But he said, well, your
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father is a pastor. Go and borrow some of his
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sermons. There you go. And you can read them.
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So I did that, and he awakened in my heart a
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desire to share with others the love of Christ
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and the message of Jesus Christ, the gospel,
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the good news that Jesus is coming soon. And
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that led me to, after graduation, go to the college
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in Puerto Rico. My dream was to come to school,
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not necessarily to live and work in the United
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States, but to school here. Because I said, if
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I'm going to study theology, I want to study
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in the language in which most of the books of
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our church, the Spirit of Prophecy, were written.
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So I came to the United States. First step was
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Puerto Rico, and then here. to become a pastor.
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I went back to Venezuela, but they didn't have
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a job for me, so I came back to the United States,
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and then there was no opening for me in the ministry
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at the time. So I began in the Army. I decided
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to go to the Army for three years to collect
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money to go to the seminary. So that's what I
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did. And being in the Army, I had experiences
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that show the need. of chaplains, and especially
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Adventist chaplains that are going to understand
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the situation that we find Adventists in the
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military. So that was my first step and the reason
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why I became involved with chaplaincy. When I
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joined the seminary, I also joined the Navy,
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and I spent about 30 years active duty and reserve
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in the Navy as a reservist, as a chaplain, and
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at the same time, full -time as a pastor and
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other activities within the church. Amen. Thank
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you for your service. Can you tell us a little
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bit about those years between your dad? What
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was it like growing up? Your dad was a pastor.
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Did you have siblings? Where was that? What town?
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What country? That was in Venezuela. I had three
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brothers, no sisters. Three brothers. Where did
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you come in that lineup? I'm the oldest. Okay.
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So you were the boss. Well, that's interesting
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because they all wanted to be a boss too. I left
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the house as soon as I graduated from high school
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to go to Puerto Rico. My father was the principal
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of an academy, now a college, a university in
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Venezuela. My early recollections was in the
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college in Colombia where he taught and the college
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in Venezuela where he also taught and was the
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director and president of the school there. The
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experience of seeing your pastor, excuse me,
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your father pastor, that didn't even cross your
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mind that you might want to move in that direction?
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No. Or was it because he was a pastor that it
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definitely didn't cross your mind? No, no. It
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just didn't cross my mind because I had a grandfather
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that I loved very much and died of a heart attack
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and cancer. And I wanted to be a doctor to help
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others like my grandfather. I felt impotent.
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When I couldn't help him, he died when I was
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in high school. But what turned me into ministry
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was reading my father's sermons. That was the
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example. And I learned more about God and ministry
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from my dad reading his sermons and also seeing
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how he treated members of the church and how
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he conducted himself as a true pastor. It sounds
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to me like caring for people runs in your family.
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Yeah. Very good. At whatever level. Yes, that's
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correct. All right. So you caught the fever as
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a high schooler for preaching, for sharing the
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gospel. And you went from there to have a career
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pastoring and serving as a chaplain. Yes. I want
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to know more about how, I guess we'll wait and
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we'll come to that in the second segment, but
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I want to know more about how you came to have
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the Medical Cadet Corps and how that interfaces
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with the overall work of the chaplains. Jordan,
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you're on microphone over there too, and I'm
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just going to pop you into this conversation.
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You've known Mario for a few years, and you've
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produced quite a bit of media for the chaplains.
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I don't know if you have anything you want to
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throw at him, any questions you want to ask him
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too. Inquiring minds want to know more about
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Mario. Well, when I was in college, in Puerto
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Rico, that's when I was introduced to the American
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Cadets. So I spent some time with the military
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training, crossing a river in a rope and putting
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a camp in the middle of the night there in the
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university in Puerto Rico, Antillian College
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at the time, and dragging myself through the
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mud and learning military discipline. caught
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my attention. So we'll talk more about that and
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the importance of it, but that's how I began
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with the medical cadets. So when I came to the
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churches, I didn't have much time to organize
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that, but when I became my youth director in
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the Texas Conference, that's when I began to
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organize and promote the program. Okay. Jordan,
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I would... Didn't want to pull it away from you
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if you wanted to add anything. It's okay. I had
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some people that were behind me that were a little
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bit distracted, and I apologize for that. Yeah,
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so we've worked together on a couple of congresses.
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We did an exciting congress during COVID where
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we did an all -virtual congress, and that was
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exciting to work with. And I know from Mario's...
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work history that very early on I met him, but
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it was towards the end of his time as a youth
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director in the Southern New England Conference
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as well. I didn't know you were a youth director,
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Mario. Yes, I was a youth director at the Texas
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Conference. And then after spending some time
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there, only three years as a pastor, four years
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as a youth director, I felt that I needed to
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get more pastoral experience. So I accepted a
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call. to be a pastor in New England. But it didn't
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last more than three years when the constituency
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voted me as the church ministry director for
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that conference. So I was always being dragged.
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I always like to preach to the young people.
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I'm always involved with Pathfinders. So they
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dragged me into the conference to be a youth
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director there. And we began, again, the medical
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cadets and Pathfinders and running the camp and
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all the different activities there. How do you
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balance being a pastor and a chaplain? Because
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it seems like you have two masters. During my
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time that I was a chaplain and a pastor, my full
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-time job was the pastor. So that's the one you
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follow the closest. That's the one you pay more
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attention to. Because they are the ones that
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pay you the most. But it's also in my heart.
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When the time came for me to decide whether to
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stay in the reserves or go active duty, I loved
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both worlds. I loved the church and I loved chaplaincy.
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So to get the best of the two worlds, you had
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to stay in the church. So to balance, as a reservist,
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you had two weeks active duty, one weekend a
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month. I made sure that... My Navy duty did not
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interfere with my pastorate in my churches. That
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came first. But when I was away with the Navy
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as a reservist, the church knew, the conference
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knew. There was an agreement that I had with
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them before I accepted a call anywhere that I
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wanted in writing that the conference will respect
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my time with the Navy. So the important thing
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is to be fully where you are. And don't use one
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as an excuse not to take care of the other. I
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see. Very good. Well, let's talk about the Medical
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Cadet Corps in just a moment. Thank you for our
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Sunlight Chat. We're talking to Mario Ceballos
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from... Well, for today, the Medical Cadet Corps,
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you are retired Adventist chaplaincy ministries,
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you're retired Navy. You've had a full career
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in serving God and service to your country as
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well. Is that a fair way to say it? Yes, it is.
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Okay. So tell us what the Medical Cadet Corps
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is and did it begin before you were director?
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Yes. Okay. Tell us about that. Well, after the,
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and by the way, I'm retired from the general
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conference. But I've been tasked to help and
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direct the medical cadets. So I'm still involved
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with the medical cadets. Well, you know, that's
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what they say. You're not really retired. You're
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just retreaded. Yeah. Well, what happened was
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that during the First World War, many Adventists
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ended up in prison because they refused to kill
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people. They refused to carry arms. And the church
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didn't have anything that we could help them
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with. And then after the war and in the beginning
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of the Second World War, just prior to that,
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the General Conference saw the need to create
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a program, a way to prepare our young people
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to serve God, but also to serve our country without
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taking lives. And when they began with that program,
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we engaged the Army and the different powers
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that be, and we decided to create a program to
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prepare Adventists to be medics. So that when
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they get drafted into the army, they come in
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as medics. Medics at the time were non -combatants.
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They didn't carry any arms. So that's the story
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of Desmond Doss. That he said, I just want to,
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I don't want to take lives. I want to save lives.
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So that's how we began. We began as part of a
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ministry at the General Conference that at the
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time was called the war commission. After a few
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years, the church said, ah, we are really not
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a war church. We want peace. We don't want war.
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So they changed the name to the National Service
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Organization. That organization served for many
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years, and their task was to take care of identity
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serving in the military. And the medical cadet
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began functioning. over the world. All you have
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to do is go to Wikipedia and you have medical
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cadets in the Philippines, in Argentina, in the
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United States, through the Americas, through
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Africa and many other places. So it became a
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program that was directed to help young people
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to join the military. That's how we began. After
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the war, of course, the medical cadet went kind
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of non -active. But in Puerto Rico, it kept on
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very strong. And it began to shift, not only
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to prepare young people in case there is war,
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because we have in the United States, for example,
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we have at any time the draft can be implemented.
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It has not been canceled. It's just not active.
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And if it's implemented, Adventists are going
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to have to join. We have a problem. I don't want
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to mention the name. You may imagine what countries
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are those that are at war. There are more than
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50 conflicts around the world today as we speak.
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We have two major countries at war. One of those
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countries is having a hard time because Adventist
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young people are being grabbed and sent to the
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front lines. And we don't have anything for them.
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And that's a problem. Here in the United States,
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they have asked us to be prepared in cases there
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is a war here. So the shift began from not only
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preparing people to the military, but also to
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prepare young people to help their countries
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in cases of disaster, in cases of, for example,
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flood, hurricanes, fires. any of those cases
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and we have worked in those places especially
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in puerto rico with hurricanes we have worked
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with the with fema and with other government
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organizations partnering with them helping them
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in every way we can wow it's a complex situation
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there yes it is You have been tasked. Tell us
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a little bit about what it is you've been tasked
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with with this. What is your role? What are you
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doing every day, just on a daily basis? I'm the
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director of medical cadets under the leadership
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of Ivan Omania, that is the director of Adventist
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Chaplaincy Ministry. Because the other thing
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I neglected to say is that 35 years ago, there
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was a vote taken to organize the Adventist Chaplaincy
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Ministries. And the Adventist Chaplaincy Ministry
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became the umbrella over the National Service
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Organization, now called World Service Organization.
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And under that is the Medical Cadet. So when
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I retired, because of my military experience,
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I was asked, can you lead on that? So my job
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is, you know, for example, I've been working
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with Venezuela, developing a similar program
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for Venezuela. Because every country is different
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in the way they run the armed forces. And that's
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my role now, organizing the manuals and different
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programs in different countries for medical cadets,
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being a resource for them. And recently they
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had a meeting of medical cadets in Puerto Rico,
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so I was invited to go and speak. to them and
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help them on that. So a lot of policy, a lot
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of organization in different places, reorganization,
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reactivation of the medical cadets. So am I understanding
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you correctly that Medical Cadet Corps is in
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some countries but not in other countries? Correct.
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The strongest place is in Puerto Rico. Okay.
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And in the United States, we have it with the
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Northeastern Conference, Southern New England
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Conference, Atlanta Union. There are some groups
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in Texas. And sadly, people don't see a lot of
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need until, as we say in the military, the balloon
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goes up. Yes. And then they want to do something,
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and many times it's too late. Okay. I'm a youth,
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young adult. I'm interested in going into the
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military. I want to protect my religious rights.
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Is the Medical Cadet Corps the way to go? Yes
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and no. Or am I understanding the connection
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correctly? No, no, no. You are correct. But I
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say yes and no because, yes, if you are drafted
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into the military, the advice from the church
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is if you are drafted into the military, then.
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that will be helpful. That training will be helpful.
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But today, we don't have the draft. So the A1O,
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the conscious objector, really doesn't work now
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because we are not at war. If we are at war,
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if we get involved in a war, then we already
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have in place agreements with the government
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that are drafted, not joined, are drafted to
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get in. Desmond Doss was not drafted. Desmond
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Doss joined. He had a strong belief that instead
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of taking arms, he wanted to be someone that
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is going to be saving lives. And it was very
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difficult for him because he was not drafted.
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When you volunteer, you don't have that right.
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When I joined, I joined as a medic because I
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wanted that to be the reason for not to carry
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arms. But even then, it was very difficult. I
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have experience that I can tell you about how
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difficult it was for me, especially on the part
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of Sabbath keeping. So if a young man or young
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woman chooses to enter the military, or they
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get called, rather, into the military, with the
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Medical Cadet Corps training, they should have
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a path that allows them to move into some sort
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of medical aspect of the military and serve the
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time that's required of them. And have that concession
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regarding bearing arms. If they are drafted,
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they will come in straight into basic training.
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And then Fort Sam Houston, where we have the
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medic training, as I did. Okay. And I understand
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with basic training, Sabbath concessions are
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very difficult. Now that we don't have a draft,
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yes, they are difficult. But during the draft,
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the military allows. to go to their services
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as long as that do not interfere with the mission
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of the program. Okay. But if someone's enrolled
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in a medical cadet corps program and they go
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to basic training, is there a concession there
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for Sabbath? Yes, there should be a concession
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for Sabbath, but that is in time of war when
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they get drafted. Okay. So Medical Cadet Corps
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is something you don't do until you are drafted?
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No, Medical Cadet Corps is something that you
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should be doing now so that when you're drafted,
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then that is guaranteed. Okay. It's kind of your
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safeguard to be sure that you... Is concession
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the right word? You get your religious accommodation?
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Religious accommodation is the right word. Okay.
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Very good. What else can you tell us about Medical
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Cadet Corps? Well, now we... We are getting medical
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cadet corps all over the world. They're beginning
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to get organized, like I said, in Venezuela,
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in Central America. We have several countries
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that are working on that, like Panama. I believe
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that Costa Rica also is working on that. And
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a lot has to do with the vision of the leaders
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of the church in that area and how they see the
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future of their country being involved in the
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military. So it's beginning to grow. We're training
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young people to be in touch with their community
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services, in touch with their FEMA or the equivalent
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of FEMA in their countries. And it's beginning
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to help in different places. We have challenges,
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but it's beginning to grow. Amen. I want to learn
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a little bit more about the Medical Cadet Corps
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when we come back. But thank you, Mario, for
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kind of explaining the nuts and bolts of things
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for us. When we come back, we'll talk more with
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Mario Ceballos. Medical Corps Director for the
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General Conference of Seventh -day Adventists.
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And speaking of the General Conference, we are
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at what we call the GC Session for the World
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Church, having a business meeting every five
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years to elect officers and discuss church business
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and policy. And along with that, a really great
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group of folks here exhibiting across the exhibit
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hall various ministries and businesses and institutions
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that are supporting the work. of God around the
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world. And it's just been a lot of fun to connect
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and network with folks. Thank you for being along
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with us. We hope you'll stay with us. We'll be
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back with more Mission Sunlight Chat. with the
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Creator. We must learn to abide in Jesus now.
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We move ahead with our mission objectives recognizing
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that we are serving together the Most High God.
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Welcome back to Mission Sunlight Chat, talking
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with Mario Ceballos from Medical Cadet Corps
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and Adventist Chaplaincy. You work a lot with
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churches, organizations who are working with
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young men and young women around the world whose
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countries may or may not call them into service
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in the military. And as you mentioned earlier,
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there's 50 -some countries that are... or 50
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-some conflicts right now, which means there's
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about 100 countries involved in conflict, maybe
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some crossover there, I guess. But what do you
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tell the local leadership of churches who are
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in a country how to best prepare their youth
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and young adults for the possibility of war?
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One of the problems we have in one of those countries
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that are involved in a very brutal and very difficult
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war Is that they are asking their young people
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that when they get drafted, to tell them that
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they are Adventists and that they are non -combatants.
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That don't work. Because what has to happen is
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that the churches have to talk to their conference
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leadership. The conference religious liberty
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and public relations of their director of their
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conference. The youth director of the conference
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and the union. need to work directly with the
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military and to work with them and to develop
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an agreement. Yes, it is true that many times
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they may not honor the agreement, but we don't
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know. We cannot assume that they will not. But
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work with some kind of agreement to tell them
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that Adventists will serve in the military, but
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they will serve as a non -combatant. Now, let
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me just give you a word of advice to everyone.
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as a non -combatant will not get you out of the
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front lines. People are saying they don't want
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to be a non -combatant because they don't want
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to serve in the front lines. It will not get
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you out of there. If you are in a country and
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you are patriot for your country, I think it's
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not fair to expect other people to die for you.
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To have other people to fight for you. And you
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enjoy the freedoms that you have because other
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people have died for you. As long as we live
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in this world, we will find conflict and war.
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Desmond does when he went to fight. He did not
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fight. He went to save lives. But he was in the
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front lines. So we need to make sure that people
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understand that. What we need to do right now
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is do our best. That Jesus comes soon. Amen.
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Because when he comes, that will be the end of
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the killing and the wars that are going around
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the world. We don't support wars. We help people
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become friends and possible to avoid wars. Amen.
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Mario, I ask you to just kind of think over something
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encouraging you want to say to our listeners
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and viewers. That in and of itself was encouraging
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to our listeners and viewers, but anything else
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you want to add to that? No, basically that we
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need to pray and do the best so that Jesus comes
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soon. Amen. Because as Admiral Rickhofer says,
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this nonsense of war is something that is destroying
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our world. has existed from the beginning and
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will continue to exist until Jesus comes and
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brings peace. Amen. Well, thank you for sharing
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with us. How can people look online and connect
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with Medical Cadet Corps? Is there a website?
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Yes, there is a website, worldserviceorganization
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.org. WorldServiceOrganization .org. And we'll
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put that in the bio so people can find that.
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Click on it and go right there. Thank you for
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being a part of our program today. It's been
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a blessing to connect with a friend and to hear
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something unique that many of our listeners and
28:43
viewers have never heard. And it may benefit,
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as I'm thinking of our viewers and listeners,
28:48
it may not benefit someone who's watching this.
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Older, more mature, but they may be able to pass
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along the information to someone who is younger
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and facing situations where they need this information
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and they need this training and preparation.
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