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Would the Real Jets GM, please Stand Up? · Sports Exchange

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Good heaping. Everybody. Glad to see you again if you were on our
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earlier version of Pundit's Pundit starring Jacob Christner, George Iicorn, myself and Denzel
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Snipes. Now the second half the doubleheader includes JB Ellis, George Icord,
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Jacob Christner, and you know who me. Okay, So with that said,
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let's go out there and talk some sports, Shelley. So we'll lead
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off with will the real Jets GM please stand up and let's talk about everything
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when it comes to Aaron Rodgers. So, how would you right Aaron Rodgers
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as a general manager of the Jets. You know, Aaron Rodgers as the
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GM of the Jets. If he's playing, it's probably an airb where he's
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not playing. Remember this, you get Nathaniel Hacket, you get a Nathaniel
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Hackett, You're getting You're getting the espresso boy for Aaron Rodgers and someone who
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could probably set up a good game plan outside of the deal he can't call
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plays. That kind of showed in Denver when he made a pretty much a
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Hall of the near Hall of Fame quarterback into I mean pranktically Nathan Peterman and
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one fell swoop. He can't do any of that, but Aaron Rodgers loves
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him because he gets the game plan and Aaron calls his own He calls his
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own game. We already knew this, So guess what, Aaron. Aaron
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gets hurt and then you have to call plays. He had to actually call
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plays for a guy like Zach Wilson who wasn't ready for that. And then
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there's no and then there's no Dalvin Cook, there's no the Lazard, there's
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no cop, no any of that because there's no Aaron Rodgers. Okay,
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so that without me, I'm gonna stop you right there, because you're in
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the GMTA category. Okay, great minds thinking like So let me break down
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everything that's transpired with them. First of all, we've already talked about it.
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Nathaniel Hackett is the worst offensive quarter in the NFL. Hard argue that
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Alan Lizard is now a healthy scratch for games. Who would have thought that
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Billy Turner is an absolute turnstile on the offensive line. Randall Cobb only has
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three catches on twelve targets for twenty yards. And like you said, we've
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been talking about Tim Boyle all night. Statistically, one of the worst qbs
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in college and professional football history. And now Dalvin Cook three yards for Kerry
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no tds. All right, Jacob, now that I rambled off those stats,
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go ahead and you can continue to elaborate. Oh yeah, and that's
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what I'm bringing. That's what I'm It's like, we wouldn't be saying any
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of this if he played all year because they're probably in the with that defense,
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are probably in a playoff hunt, probably the six five to six seed.
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They probably are, and there's that time we wouldn't say anything. Then
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they would call him great. But that's what the media does. They don't
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do nuanced, they don't do any of that kind of thing. And it's
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it would look genius in that kind of level. But him going after his
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friends, the people he trusts, that's every star ever, so you can't.
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But it's just like it's just backfired because he got hurt. In backfired
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because he got hurt. And that's the main issue. Okay, Jill,
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Listen, they weren't too and much in Green Bay when he tried to play
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general manager. Wasn't working off very well there and then he wanted to leave.
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So you know, now he went to his new home the New York
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Jets, where there's only fools gold and it doesn't work. You know,
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Jerry Jones and Aaron Rodgers should not be general managers. It's not the way
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it should happen. You know. There there are guys that are great at
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building teams and there's guys that are not great. Aaron Rodgers is oh for
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to do with this. He didn't do well at Green Bay, and he
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didn't do well you know in New York. Okay, all right, George,
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Well, they obviously gave Rogers way too much leeway and in his control
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over the situation. You know, whether he's injured or not. I mean,
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we all know he's a superstar coming on board, but he's got way
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too much say in the matters that are, like you mentioned, on the
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plate usually of a general manager. And now the good news for the Jets
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is that he did make his return to the practice field. Rogers, so
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he's trying to prove critics wrong who wrote him off said he wouldn't be back
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at all this year. So here he is, eleven weeks after the surgery,
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practicing. But like you guys said, I mean their season is lost.
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I mean, yeah, they're still technically in contention, but they go
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on these long losing streaks. This losing streak is four games in a row,
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and you remember they had a three game losing streak before when they lost
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to Dallas, New England and Kansas City at the beginning of the season,
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near the front of the season. So they cannot afford a lost anymore.
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But I agree. I mean, you know, if Aaron wants to get
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into that kind of role later on after his playing days are done, I
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can understand. Maybe he feels like he owes the Jets something because of all
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the money they spent on him, so that's why he's trying to act like
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a Jerry Jones or a GM. But no, his focus should be on
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the field, on the offense and trying to turn something around that's really not
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going very well in New York. All right now, I should point out,
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a great cumbination. Now, I also want to point out the fact that
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the only thing I'll say about Aaron Rodgers is I used to like soap operas
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when I was in college, and I used to watch General Hospital a lot.
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But I've never heard of the soap called soap opera called as the Aaron
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turns, so travels, you know, but there's drama here. Have a
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drama in Green Bay where they can handle it, and then you have a
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drama out in New York where they were going to get it. So you
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know, as the Aaron turns you heard from All right, let's go to
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John Sheer in the chat room. All right, here we go, Johnny,
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or fellow colleague of ours. If he doesn't play sixty five percent in
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the snaps green Bay doesn't get a first rounder, which he won't obviously sixty
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five percent. Now he's conveniently getting healthy. Something doesn't add up, you
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know, Johnny. I don't know if you've heard this from me lately,
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but you know, when I do talk to you at some point or another,
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hopefully sooner than later, you better. You've better memorize the phrase GMGA
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like everybody else does, including mister Ellis. Great mans think alike something doesn't
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add up. You don't have to be a math major, but great mans
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think ILike Cheerer. You know it right, and think about this. People
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put the people put their own their own spin on things. He's always been
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a jerk. Always They just put their they spin based off the beliefs.
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He's always been a jerk based off of his family and based off of everything.
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Now you're thinking you're expecting a different How do you really feel, Jacob?
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Yeah, if you really want me to ask me how this guy really
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feels that, I would go ahead and tell you that. Well, we
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missed Rick Curty badly because he's a heck of a person. We got another.
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Yeah, there you go. They have another guy residing in Georgia who
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has become our version of mister Opinion. Although the opinion it doesn't matter.
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He's you know what, we're gonna call Jacob Christ the modern day Howard cosell
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Is. How about that? Better looking than that guy. I won't get
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into my co Cell stories all those. I got real hair, and we
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know he had a rug. Okay, I didn't know where. Now that
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you got you baited me on that, I'll tell you this whole Howard co
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Cell story really quickly. I'm covering a game at the Orange Bowl in Miami,
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Monday night football, and I asked Howard co Sell for an interview.
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Turn me out, okay, whatever. Don't want to give a young guy
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an opportunity to talk to him. So I ended up talking to O.
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J. Simpson. O J. Simpson was real nice. I asked the
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guy the same question five different times, gave me five different answers, and
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boy, you talk about O Jay. He helped me build my confidence.
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So good. Rood's Howard, Hello, OJ. Don't care about what you've
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done now, all I know is you're a good reference when I was learning
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and growing up in the business. And we'll leave it at that. So
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that interview was a killing I'm telling you right now. Yeah, that was
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bad. It would only come from you that you would make such an analogy
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like that. So I'll just give me my props for O. J.
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Simpson in the Orange. I'm gonna tell you an opportunity early in your lifetime
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to interview somebody like that, then, yeah, present we't I didn't predict
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what his person a life would be later. I mean, I don't even
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think I Steinery or what do you call it, a fortune teller could have
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done that all right before you go on right now, before we go on,
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right now, if any of us had an opportunity to sit down with
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OJ and have an hour long interview, would you do it? Yes,
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I know, without a doubt, of course. I mean there's so many
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ways you could go with it. You don't even have to get into the
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crazy talk of you know, life after football, just this football career.
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You could have hour conversation without a doubt and make a great interview. Absolutely,
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yeah, no doubt about it. Jabi. Well again, great minds
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think alike. Okay, And yes, John Sheer, now you're coming the
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others. One of the greatest running backs have come into the others. There
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you go, good stuff, Johnny. At least I know John again,
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you hear me, No, I don't press. He definitely does and probably
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seems to me if you go on that road. All right, So with
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that said, we're gonna go on to from one fortune here, okay,
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meaning that he you can only imagine all the money that's being tossed around with
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Aaron Rodgers to another guy who has a good return on investment. Mark Cuban,
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according to the Front off of Sports, is selling and majority stake in
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the Dallas Mavericks at a three point five billion dollar valuation. He paid two
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hundred and eighty five million for the Mavericks in two thousand. I'll tell you
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one thing. He also probably paid a lot of fines. But Mark Cuban
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has been nothing good for the NBA, And you know, I don't blame
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him for wanting to get out of it. He's still going to run call
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the shots in terms of basketball and all that. But let's say said,
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I don't blame Mark. He's won a championship, he's done a lot of
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good things. Why not sell it and be able to get a good return
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on investment. What are your thoughts, Jacob? Well, yeah, because
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remember basketball operations just means he can run basketball operations. Just the things he
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can do is he can work with a GM. He can do whatever.
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Owner means you got to negotiate with You got to negotiate with leases, You've
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got to do all that stuff. Trying to get advertisements. You gotta over
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and over and over. It's gonna be a ton of things. Does are
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things he will not have to do anymore, and really and overall, he's
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also leave a shark tank. So there's completely personally to me, I think
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he's too young to be doing all this, but he's probably been doing it
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so long he wants to just relax a little bit. But you relax,
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you die, no matter what you think, especially someone as much as work
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as much as he has over those years. I'd be bored myself, But
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good luck to him. Hopefully he finds new dead challenges JB. Well,
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Jacob, there's gonna be a challenge. He's gonna he's gonna find welcome President
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Cuban. Why not? I am telling you now, I have it from
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one of my top sources. I'm gonna go on the record and say Mark
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Cuban is thinking about running for president and he needed to do these two things
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before he could actually do it. As all, your source isn't dead Spin,
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No, I have very good sources. His thoughts in trying out loud.
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You know what, you remind me of a ballhog man who was the
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biggest ballhog in NBA history. Michael Jordan, No, go ahead, I
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said, President Cuba just you know, and in the likes of President Trump,
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the next celebrity president of the United States of America easily could easily could
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you know. I'm not saying anything about any of the political beliefs because we're
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not here to do that. But you know, we've already had a celebrity
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president. We're going to have number two with Mark Cuber and the President.
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So I'm gonna have two celebrity presidents in our lifetime. Okay, what do
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you think George good perspective. I got to correct my friend, my colleague
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Ronald Reagan was also a celebrity. He was a Hollywood entertainer and an actor,
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so he was also. But I don't know. I think it's interesting
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that you mentioned that JB. I had not heard that, but it wouldn't
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surprise me one bit because I know he is very political in his viewpoints.
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But that being said, the Dallas Mavericks just have not They just been muggling
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along the last few years, and he has to get tired of it.
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I mean, you know, he's gone up against so many battles with NBA
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ownership and with NBA commissioners and fines and suspensions and all this stuff. And
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I'm sure he's you know, even though he's going to be part of the
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operation of the franchise, like you said, he won't have the headaches of
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being an NBA owner. But I do think that he's got a good future
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ahead of him. Obviously, whatever he does. He's a brilliant person and
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he does a lot for his community at the Dallas community I know, as
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well charity wise, so there's a lot of work ahead. And it's interesting
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though, if he does turn to politics. I really think that, you
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know, he's going to get a lot of attention, but we'll just leave
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it at that. He's he's he's quite the character. He's always been one
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of the great outspoken persons in the NBA. That's for dark chair. Yeah,
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I've often wondered how long he was going to stay. There comes a
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point when you know when the time is right to go away with all the
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drama and players not playing more than sixty five seventy games, and you're paying
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a lot of money for him, and that's some point that's got a weigh
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on you a little bit too. You know, you have to really you
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know, let me tell you, I think the best commissioner I've ever seen
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in my lifetime, without a doubt, is David Stern. He really is.
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There's a guy that cracked the whip on everybody by the same token,
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and the one that I can't stomach's Adam Silver because to me, you know,
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he's what you call a paddy Cake Paddy gate Baker's man type of guy,
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you know, and he'll appuse anybody that he can. So you know
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what the reality is is this, you know what, who knows what other
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Cuban is doing anyways right now that we don't even know about. True,
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you also have to look at the fact that the NBA's ratings are starting to
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decline. We're using these gimmicks like in season tournaments to try to spark interest
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when all you have to do is market a lot better and polish your players
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to play as often as they can and not have rest. And there comes
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a point where you do simply get fed up with all of it, you
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really do so. And let's not forget the fact that here's a guy that
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only paid two hundred and eighty five million and he's selling a majority steak.
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And again, I'll repeat that number again, three point five billion dollars.
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You're talking about a three billion dollar return on investment. I'm not gonna count
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talk about exactly how much he's spent to invest That doesn't matter about all you
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have to do. And I'm not a math guy any ways, but three
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point five billion for evaluation to two hundred eighty five million, I would say
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it's a great business decision. I can tell you right now that I'm not
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a math major, and I'll tell you I would never have passed my father
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in law's fred Ebling's math class. But at least I got his daughter instead,
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so it doesn't make any difference. So but that said, okay,
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let's talk about Dion Sanders. All right, you're ready. First year Dion
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Sanders, who actually found he ends up finishing with a four and eight record,
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but in the Pac twelve. But get that. Okay, he started
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three and oh and lost eight of his last nine down the stretch, and
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as I recently heard, okay he lost. He's starting to get some de
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commit So Jacob, let's talk about Dion Sanders. This is not Jackson State,
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okay, this is you know Division one football. Yeah, and no
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other thing is I said nine to three, I missed on that one,
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and then it looked good with three and oh and four and two. It
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did. But for one thing, you heard me a thousand times I said,
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I wanted him to stay in in the I wanted to state and the
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you know, Jackson's State, and then keep going and keep going and keep
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going, you know the you know the the let's see all the African American
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coologist, excuse me, the anyway, I wanted him to stay in that
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world and be able to help the help it. I wanted him to be
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able to build it all up. And it's like, but I did also
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say nine to three, so I was wrong there. But the biggest thing
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is the D commits. Let's see the D commits. Here's the issue we
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have with that is he was gonna have D commits if he won. And
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I'll tell you why, because he's putting everything on video. He's telling these
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boys to be men, which means come on time, which means go to
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class, which means be responsible, which means all of that stuff. The
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he commits they can win and they're gonna lose. He's gonna lose them.
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You're just not gonna hear it as much as you would if he's losing,
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you know what I mean. If he's winning, you're not gonna hear as
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much as he would you now, but you're gonna hear he would have D
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commits anyway, because that scares a lot of people. That scares a lot
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of people who just kind of want to them. They would think that they're
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getting the star, that they're getting prime time, that they're getting all of
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this. Then all of a sudden, you're going on there and you're seeing
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a you know, someone that is an adult trying to build men, which
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a lot of these kids don't want. So there's that part problem right there.
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And then another thing, is he gonna stay past to door? Is
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he going to stay past that? And it is looking doubtful and personally to
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me that I did. This wasn't the reason why I wanted to the historically
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Black College University HBCU. That's why I was thinking up. I wanted to
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stay around that because he was the perfect face to be able to build the
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whole thing up. One year later, we don't hear about them on ESPN
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or anything at all. Whatever games they get from that contract that he helped
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with are put they are put in done purgatory. Those games they have a
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contract to do, but they're in purgatory now. We don't hear them on
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ESPN, We don't hear anything. They need a face. He was the
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face. He used his own head, he used his own ego. And
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now he's gone, and now who knows if he sticks with this whole thing
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in the first place. JB. Listen, he was four and eight.
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He did it his way. You know, his son is phenomenal. He's
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a great coach. How many of the losses were by one score he threw
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how many new guys on a football team. We're talking about football. We're
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not talking about baseball, where chemistry isn't as important. You know, we're
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not talking about you know, one one person sport like tennis, where you
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know, who cares if you go from Colorado to Arizona or a different school.
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This is football. You have to have eleven people on offense working together,
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eleven guys on defense working together. Special teams is another eleven, and
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you have different units on special teams, throwing all them together in a hurry,
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and then you know they got to get adjusted to go to classes a
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different environment. Colorado's not like Florida, not like New York, not like
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you know, Utah. Wherever the kids are coming from. They all have
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to adjust to new surroundings. They're all between seventeen to twenty three. I'm
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sure it's a tough time in life to go through changes like that. Let's
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cut the man of break. You know, he is a phenomenal coach.
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You know he's teaching them things is that they need to learn in life.
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And guess what, not everyone's going to be successful. Not everyone's going to
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go twelve and zero. You know, listen, I have no problem with
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anything the man's done. You know people that sit there and just rip him,
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to rip him. Danny Canell, who's the biggest clown going, you
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know, who talks so much? What did Danny Canell do in his career?
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Throw a pick six to Dion Sanders. That's what Danny Canell did,
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you know. So enough with the ripping on Dion. Give him time.
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If he doesn't want to stay there, it's his business. He doesn't have
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to. You know, look at jimbo Fisher. He got a great job
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at Texas A and M. He was the next coming of a great coach.
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What did he do? Oh he was an assistant coach for Bobby Bowden.
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Big deal. The guy went to Texas A and M did nothing,
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took them nowhere. You know, at least Dion tries, you know,
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whatever. I can't stand people are ripped for no reason. All right,
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let's go to the chat room before I turn over to Georgia. Have some
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good participation tonight. Okay, Well, Anthony beyond cash out Cuban smart move
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yet, no doubt about it. And well, do you know one of
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my favorite people out there, Jennifer Cobb. Yes, Jen, we're going
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to be doing this again in the very near future about a Parkinson's show.
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She's certainly done a She's been a tremendous asset to our network and we're looking
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forward to get her on, hopefully by the end of the year, and
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the goal is to keep her on at least minimum two times a month for
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sure. Jen, hope you had a great Thanksgiving and look forward to talking
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to you soon. God bless you. I'm glad you're part of our network
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more than you'll ever know. All right, back to Anthony, Okay,
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Dean to Miami won't bring the title, but it'll bring in the dollars.
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Yeah, I guess this show would be turning out to be a financial finance
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one on one, isn't it? All right? Icorn, what's your take
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on Well, where is the media frenzy? Let's be honest. You know,
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when he started three and oh at the beginning of the year, everybody
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was jumping on the bandwagon. But take a look at those points allowed.
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This team was headed for disaster. You know, forty five to forty two,
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they win their first game. Here's one the third game forty three to
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thirty five, and then they lose forty two to nine to Oregon and forty
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eight to forty one to USC And I mean I could go on and on
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and on. Obviously he did not have all the kids and all the skill
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levels he needed on defense. And also their running game was anemic, obviously
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because his son wanted to throw the ball ninety percent of the time. So
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this season, let me see here, no rusher even got to one hundred
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yards in any one of their games this year. But I agree with you,
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JB. You bring up a very good point, you know, bringing
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in all these new kids from the portal and then getting them adjusted to the
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new Universe city and academics and their athletic schedule and working all the and housing.
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You know, people forget about all these things that are going on,
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and especially when you compound that by the number of kids he had transferring in
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via the portal, it's even much of a more difficult task. I'm not
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going to criticize them. I'm sorry the you know, the naysayers are out
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there, But I agree with you, guys. I mean, he did
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a phenomenal job this year, and hopefully especially early in the year. But
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hopefully things will turn around for him and his team. I think he's good
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for football. He does it his own way. He does it his own
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way. That's sunglasses, the hoodie. I mean, come on, this
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guy's a character. But he that's his that's his livelihood, that's his Oh
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man, he's just terrific when he has those. What he addresses the way
26:52
he wants address. Not the normal college football coach. But I think Scott
26:56
that he did a good job and hope for better things for Colorado next year.
27:02
Well by all means that he did a good job under the circumstances.
27:04
Anytime you turn over your roster and practically building a new team for the portal,
27:07
an'tbody just that you're bringing a lot of people in you don't know where
27:11
they're gonna fit and how they're gonna fit. It's worth noting, however,
27:14
that Warren Sapp will be joining Dion out at the University of Colorado next year
27:18
to be part of his defensive staff. So he's trying to go out there
27:22
and do whatever he can with familiar faces that have been doing it as long
27:26
as they have. So I wish Dion Sanders good and well, and I
27:32
think next year it's not impossible to think that they can't get to the six
27:36
seven win territory. Nobody said building anything was easy from the ground up usually
27:41
take you two or three years. I don't know. I'm seeing Mario Cristobal
27:44
at work for the University of Miami and run roam one and built in the
27:48
day there, All right. Not everything's all bad in Colorado, though.
27:52
How about those Denver Broncos five game winning streak. They beat Green Bay nineteen
27:56
to seventeen on October twenty seven, Kansas City twenty four to nine in October
28:02
twenty ninth, the Buffalo Bills twenty four to twenty two on November thirteenth,
28:07
the Minnesota Vikings twenty one to twenty on November nineteenth, and the Cleveland Browns
28:11
twenty nine to twelve on November twenty sixth. The only am gonna guarantee you
28:15
if the Miami Dolphins face him again, they're not even. They'll be lucky
28:18
to get half of seventy the next time, and it'll be a you never
28:22
know. These two teams couldn't meet in the playoffs, so you know,
28:26
Miami, you may hold that seventy point, but I think that should you
28:29
meet Denver, they don't mind giving you the mercy rule in between, although
28:33
I don't think that'll happen. But the Denver Broncos are a much better team
28:37
now under Sean Payton, and Russell Wilson is starting to figure it out with
28:41
Peyton. But that said, I'll turn over to Jacob now. Miami will
28:45
still score thirty on them, but the n'lb will win. But the biggest
28:49
thing about this is what did I say? A lot of people from pundit,
28:53
from other shows from here heard me say this about the whole deal with
28:59
Russell will heard me, Hey, Ralph heard me say this. It is
29:04
they had Nathaniel Hackett. He's horrible, and it's like, you give him
29:08
a better coach. It's like I also said that Russell Wilson is not the
29:15
same as he was in Seattle. He's not going to be. But if
29:18
you got him a better coach, which you do, they're gonna find his
29:22
ceiling. I said those words, they found his ceiling. Guess what he
29:29
is A He's a little bit of a flashier version of A I mean,
29:33
let's say you know you have a game manager. They'll just say it that
29:37
way. He's a flasher version of a game manager a little bit. That's
29:40
what he is now. He's not gonna be any more than that. He's
29:42
not the guy you're gonna do. You're gonna have to have a great defense
29:45
in him not make mistakes, which is happening. And guess what, a
29:49
better coach found that ceiling and those are the things. So what if he's
29:56
not making your stats, if he's not making your fantasy numbers, so what
30:02
again, it's part of winning. They're winning ball games, they're using the
30:07
defense to do it. I don't care if I can't use Russell Wilson as
30:11
a starter. I don't care about all that. Good for them. I
30:14
still think Miami wins them in the playoffs, but I mean it wouldn't be
30:18
seventy. But the thing about it is they are winning now, and they're
30:22
getting closer, and they're moving now. JBI, listen, what the transformation
30:30
in Denver from that Miami game to where they are now. That never happens
30:37
in the same season. That is so impressive to see a team that gave
30:41
up seventy points, that was flying out embarrassed, you know, And to
30:48
me, I think it was more embarrassing than Miami to go for the record
30:49
that they kind of were like, we feel bad for you. We're not
30:52
gonna break the record on you. So it was even more embarrassing. Dave
30:57
rebounded so much. Their defense is playing lights out, Russ has played some
31:03
of his best football ever. Sutton's been unbelievable at wide receiver. You know,
31:08
they're running back, Williams is playing well. Just overall, what a
31:12
transformation whenever Sean Payton has done to get control of that team, to get
31:18
them going in the right direction, just refocusing all that energy compared to what
31:25
they had to deal with the last year. At the beginning of the season,
31:29
coach of the year of my mind. You know, they're not gonna
31:32
win a Super Bowl. They're not gonna you know, they're probably not even
31:36
gonna make the playoffs because they they're in a tough division and there's a lot
31:40
of other good teams in the AFC. But you know, to get that
31:44
team back to where they're in contention for a playoff spot, that's unbelievable.
31:51
Great job, all right, you know what, before we go to George,
31:53
let's go back to the chat room. Anthony Biyonki. All right,
31:57
Jacob Reid, it since I had your name written Thakob knows what's up.
32:00
Wilson's the backup level quarterback when you winning football. Yeah he is, and
32:05
that's what he's going to be at That's what he's going to be and that's
32:07
fine. You know what you do. You build a the coach's idea is.
32:12
It isn't what the fantasy football people want to hear, but it's what
32:15
this is. You build a team and somebody that doesn't make mistakes and builds
32:22
the thing, and they can do that. If you can find someone better
32:24
than Wilson, you go do it. If you can find someone that can
32:29
get you over the top, you go do it till then you can get
32:32
so much worse. And I keep having to remind fans of this when they
32:37
get all over the place on Twitter, on social media, on whatever,
32:42
and then they want to on the first day completion, they want to quit.
32:45
I want to remind them it can always get worse. And I'm the
32:50
one that drives people of these fans nuts when they want to quit on a
32:52
coach, to quit everything after a loss or a bad time. It's like,
32:55
guess what, You're not gonna find anything better. It's like until until
33:00
the things so hush up, all right, George. One of your thoughts
33:05
on what's going on Denver. Oh, you guys have pretty much nailed it.
33:08
I mean they've done a terrific job, a great turnaround Sean Payton and
33:12
the crew. Wilson people had given up given up on him, some people
33:15
in the media. I'll tell you what you know. Twenty touchdown passes only
33:21
four interceptions. That's phenomenal statistics right there. He's really really done good there.
33:27
The thing that Denver is weak on though thirty three sacks allowed. They
33:31
got to do better on that. That thirty three sacks is a killer.
33:36
And obviously the offensive line is not where you know Sean would like it right
33:39
now. But you got a crafty veteran, okay, you know, Wilson,
33:45
say what you want. Has had some tough years in the last few
33:49
but they've really looked very well and beating some good teams, like you said,
33:53
Scott during that stretch to go six and five right now, and who
33:57
knows, I mean, they still might get a wild card Bason, and
34:00
we'll have to see how bad plays out. But yeah, it's a great
34:04
story for people living in Colorado and fans of the Broncos and Russell Wilson fans.
34:10
They've done a nice job over there. Yeah. The only three things
34:14
I'll say to the round about the topic is Number One, Sean Payton won
34:17
a Super Bowl, right, Okay, once upon a time. I was
34:21
actually at that game in Miami when they beat the Colts. And number two,
34:25
Okay, Russell William Wilson won a Super Bowl. Okay, so he
34:30
can't lose sight of that. And let's face the reality. You know what,
34:36
I'm going to go along with what JB had to say, you know,
34:37
to be able to go from the record that they had to be embarrassed
34:42
by Miami and to be competing now, I'd certainly give the guy an opportunity.
34:46
I hope he does win Coach of the Year. I don't care what
34:49
market I used to be in it I'm not. It doesn't matter, right,
34:52
So let's go to Denzel Snipes. Then we're gonna go to some top
34:54
stories today. Denzel Snipes, we got Denver this Saturday. It's gonna be
34:58
a tough game, no doubt about it. So all right, let's go
35:00
to some top headlines, as we always do here on the Sports of Change,
35:05
reports that the New York mets Land Land. Excuse me, Lewis Severino
35:12
on a one year, thirteen million dollar contract some thoughts, Jacob really the
35:21
issue about it as well? I asked this question one year one year.
35:25
I want to know that part. I want to know from that part why
35:29
that's the thing to me. It's like these contracts right now are coming three
35:34
four years average. It's like, I want to know. I want to
35:38
know the reason behind the one maybe that you get the thirteen maybe is a
35:43
is there some reason you have a proven because a one year feel like a
35:45
proven contract. Yeah, a reason for it. The guy has a proven
35:50
injury history, so he's high risk prob. So that's okay, good point
35:53
on that part. But I'm like, I, if I'm a GM by
35:57
itself, maybe you have the thing. I might just one to get too.
36:00
But if he had, because I think in the one year, I'm
36:02
thinking of what jab said and that which I wasn't for. But it was
36:07
Bellinger, you know what I'm saying. It was Bellinger. I wasn't four,
36:10
he was four. Because it was the proven contract. Might lose Bellinger
36:14
anyway, And it's like I'd rather have I'd rather have at least two.
36:17
That's just personally me. Okay, JB. Listen, he was a Yankee
36:23
for a while and unfortunately he wasn't healthy very much, got hurt way too
36:30
much. He has a lot of talent, but you know, he can't
36:36
keep paying guys that get hurt. You need to have healthy players. And
36:42
the Mets, the Mets owner, uh, you know, is like a
36:47
Steinbrenner. He's in a Steinberger like mold. You know, he may not
36:53
be as confrontational. You know, I don't think you'd go after Buck when
36:59
he was the manager and the newspapers or go down to the office and start
37:02
yelling at him like Steinburner would. But Health sped to do whatever he needs
37:07
to do to try and buy a winning team. And you know, we've
37:13
seen as a Yankee fan firsthand years and years that doesn't work. You need
37:17
to have the mix of your young stars with the proven right veterans and stars
37:25
that come in. You can't just buy a World Series. It doesn't work.
37:31
That Dodgers been trying for ages. The Yankees are kind of went away
37:37
from that. They built their farm system and they did phenomenal for a while,
37:42
and then, like all good things, that comes to an end.
37:45
But you know, you look at the teams on the rise now, Arizona,
37:49
the Cubs, you know, the Detroit's doing really well with building their
37:54
farm system. There's a lot of teams with a lot of young talent.
37:59
You know, the Rate just brought up some great young talent and won the
38:00
World Series. And you see that the teams that have done that are gonna
38:05
go far. Sati guys would with you know, injury history, you can't
38:09
do it for more than a year, and that that's why it was that
38:13
exactly all right, George. Yeah, the Mets have a depleted rotation for
38:19
sure and are looking for some help here. You know, he spent eight
38:22
years with the Yankees. In twenty twenty three, this past year was probably
38:28
his worst, obviously, with that higher and run average and battling some injuries.
38:31
Like you guys said, but yeah, it's it's it's not that common
38:36
when a guy crosses over from in the same city, from one to one
38:40
ball club to the others. It's happened, of course, between the Cubs
38:44
and the and the White Sox and the Mets and the Yankees, et cetera.
38:47
I liked him when he was good. I mean Sevrino had some really
38:51
good years there with New York. But right now I can understand why it's
38:57
only a one year deal. Like you said, Scott, you know,
38:59
with the pattern of injuries that he's had and uh you know, you know
39:02
they gave Verlander his walking papers. Sure as there's his walking papers. They're
39:07
trying to get some veteran leadership there, and that that rotation for the match.
39:12
All right, back to the chat room, Okay, Denzil snipes,
39:15
Hey, yeah, Yankees bought a world series when it actually worked. Moneyballs
39:21
the game, Now, no debate. They bought a bunch of them.
39:22
Yeah, okay, let's continue on Anthony Byance again. Good point, JB.
39:28
If Falonzo goes to the Cubs, yeah, I think that's realistic,
39:32
all right. Next top headline, Nebraska's Matt rule. A good quarterback in
39:37
the transfer port will cost about one to two million bucks. There you go,
39:40
here's a good here's a juicy one for you, Jacob only good.
39:45
I am not a Matt Ruhl fan. The only good thing I can say
39:49
with him is the least he's boldly honest on these you know when during these
39:52
little interviews, during all that stuff the press conferences. At least he's at
39:55
least you know what you would get from him, But it wouldn't matter what
40:00
of him by itself is because something in the middle of everything between Carolina and
40:05
Nebraska and all this, this wasn't a good pick to begin with for Nebraska
40:08
to get him. He's just not that good, not anymore. The game's
40:15
changing, he's not, so it wouldn't even matter what he would get in
40:19
the first place, because he's not going to win. It's like he's too
40:22
stubborn with a system that doesn't work. He did it in Carolina, he
40:27
does it here. He's too A lot of these coaches that there's Matt Naki's
40:31
the same way. They have this whole situation where they believe they need to
40:37
get a system and the players need to fall through. This isn't Tom Landry
40:39
anymore. You've got to be able to work with the players to be able
40:44
to get something, and Matt rules it's not work. When Matt rule was
40:47
winning, it was still sort of that way. Not anymore. He's got
40:52
to run through through and I don't think he's capable. He's got change.
40:54
I think he's capable. All right, We're going to Dezel before I turn
40:59
over to Jabe. First of all, I think Rule is going to do
41:01
okay with Nebraska needs a couple of years. But Denzil Rule is a successive
41:06
Baylor. I'm not going to hold Carolina against him because it's still a dumpster
41:09
fire. All you have to do is read the headlines all week with what
41:14
David Temper has done to Frank Wright, which was an absolute forrest Nebraska somehow
41:17
snake and you know, Denzil, I'm not gonna say that yet. We'll
41:22
talk about it a year from now, right, Denzil. Now that Denzil's
41:25
said his thing, what do you think, Joe listen. I mean,
41:30
it's unfortunate. This is college football, the players with nil's and you know,
41:37
all the different opportunities. It's the way the game is now, you
41:40
know, And why shouldn't it be Should the universities be making billions of dollars
41:45
that you know, these kids, We're not talking about table tennis. You
41:51
go out there and play you know, Division one football, there's a chance
41:55
you could get hurt on any particular play. Well. An education is a
42:00
great thing to have, and I'm not saying that they all should take advantage
42:04
of that, you know, how much money are they making for the university.
42:09
They deserve every penny they could get. You know, how much does
42:14
CBS, ESPN, NBC, Fox pay the air every single one of these
42:20
games? How much do the advertisers pay to put a thirty second spot on,
42:25
you know, whenever college football game or show that's on any of these
42:30
networks. Meanwhile, you're going to tell me it makes sense that, you
42:36
know, any one of these players could go out there and blow out their
42:38
knee and yeah, they'll have a great education. But how many people have
42:43
great educations can't make a good living because the job market sucks. Meanwhile,
42:50
you know, if the kid didn't get hurt and he got to play in
42:52
the NFL, he can make millions. So what's wrong with them making this
42:58
money? And that rule? Listen, it costs what it cost unfortunately nowadays
43:02
to get players with different NIL deals. But you know, you're you're in
43:07
Nebraska. I think you can handle doing it. You're not talking about a
43:12
smaller university that maybe doesn't have the alumni or the boosters to do so.
43:17
I'm sure that Nebraska's got enough people that that could pony that up like that.
43:22
They play in the stadium of over eighty thousand fans. Can't forget about
43:25
that either. All right, short, Well, they've had a tough road
43:30
obviously. You know it's not been a good year at all. Over there
43:32
three wins in the big ten rule. I still think is a good coach.
43:37
I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, want to see
43:40
what he can do next year. But as far as you know, one
43:44
point whatever he said one million to two million to get a quarterback. I
43:49
mean, you know, these kids are all jumping around. The portal is
43:52
is fall? You say, the boat is faul The portal is fall of
43:58
student athletes and in the NCAA that are moving from one college to the other.
44:02
We've seen it happen so much in my own state here at Michigan as
44:07
well at Michigan State and Michigan had both seen their quarterbacks come and go.
44:10
But you know, it's just the way things are. I mean, it's
44:14
a way of life right now. And yes, you do need a good
44:16
quarterback if you want to contend. You do need a leader on the field.
44:21
And yeah, they could get hurt. I mean we all know that
44:23
the injury bug is out there, but no I'm going to give them the
44:28
better for the doubt because I know that. I still think Rule is a
44:30
good coach. I don't know if he's the best coach for them, but
44:35
give them another year or two. Let's see how things play out there.
44:37
But how the mighty have fallen. We remember the days when the corn Huskers,
44:42
oh my gosh, those great rivalries with Oklahoma and Big Ten being so
44:46
smart and plucking them and putting them, you know, in senitizing them to
44:52
come to the Big Ten way back in the day, as they did with
44:54
Penn State. Those were two great additions to the Big Ten. So I
44:59
still think there's hope. They love their football in Nebraska. They that you
45:02
know, that's king. That's that's all they got. So yes, Scott,
45:06
I'm gonna give him a flyer on this year, but look for next
45:08
year. Hopefully they'll improve. Every time I hear portal, I keep thinking
45:14
Bill and Ted's excellent adventure with George Carlin. So I have a phone boose,
45:17
all right, love you for the comments from denzil meagent if nil was
45:22
around when Lantimer blew out his knee at South Carolina's true right. And then
45:27
there's another world that I'm just listening him. One more topic I want to
45:30
get to. Tommy Fraser is the greatest qv of all time, no debating
45:34
that. So, but that said, one more topic and then we're going
45:36
to go ahead and wrap up the broadcast. First of all, the Detroit
45:39
Red Wings fans are gonna have to wait a little bit while Patrick Kaine's first
45:45
game donning the wing wheel. They actually signed to a one year, two
45:49
point seventy five million dollars. Of course, part of the reason that he
45:51
went there Alix Dabrinkin. Oh. I think what Scott was gonna tell you
46:02
is that Alex Dabrinkett was a good friend of Patrick Kane, so they played
46:07
together with Chicago and the Blackhawks. Go ahead, Scott, Yeah, that's
46:10
fine. I'm just gonna go ahead and ask you guys. You know,
46:15
Jacob, what are your thoughts of Patrick Kane going to the Detroit Red Wings.
46:23
You wouldn't have seen this even I'm just saying even a few years earlier.
46:27
Maybe it's the business side and everything. I'm gonna say, go go
46:30
back to about fifteen twenty years. It was the biggest thing about it was
46:35
rivalries. Rivalries and hockey. It's personal almost, so you have Chicago and
46:40
Detroit. So he goes, okay, he goes, bread holded it,
46:45
bread holded it. But I was like that, you wouldn't have done this
46:46
all the way those years, a couple of decades ago, that wouldn't even
46:49
done that. It's like, it's it shows more and more now that this
46:53
era does not care. They look at the there's a paycheck, there is
46:58
all that. But at the end, he brought his buddy. He brought
47:00
his buddy with him. And it's like, especially if you've been on the
47:04
team as long as you have, then you brend to everything. At least
47:07
you want someone with you, you know, to go into a locker room,
47:09
you know. Oh, he took a d tour through the New York
47:13
Rangers to make his way back. All right, I'm saying when you're when
47:16
you're on arrival, when you're arrival, you get my point though, But
47:19
I'm saying, when you're getting this thing he took, he taking the people
47:22
with him. Yeah, okay, JB. Listen, you know nowadays professional
47:30
sports, there's no loyalty to a team. If you're a player, you're
47:35
looking to go where you want to go. Where you can make the most
47:38
for your yourself, your your family, for whatever whatever is most important to
47:45
you. There's very few guys that have that, you know, Eli Manning,
47:51
Don Mattingly type thing. I played for this team. I don't care
47:53
that I could play for another team. If I can't play here, I'm
47:58
not playing anymore. And if you have the opportunity to earn money to play
48:00
the game you love and you could go somewhere else and do it, more
48:05
power to you. You know, is it gonna help Detroit that much at
48:10
the stage of his career. Probably not, But you know, I'm sure
48:16
that they found a reason to bring him in. Maybe he could help some
48:20
of the younger guys come along, and you know that that's valuable to two
48:24
people to teams, So you know, I'm sure there's a reason for it.
48:29
Can I ask one question real fast? How long do you give this?
48:34
How long do you give this rebuild of Detroit of the Red Ways?
48:37
I would be personally, I would be surprised they get in the playoffs this
48:40
year if not next year, But I gotta get filling they're going to get
48:43
in this year well, and they could easily be. But I'm like,
48:45
do you, as I said, that been going a bit. It's been
48:47
going a bit. They've got to remember they started this when they ended that.
48:52
They basically started this when they ended their playoff streak, and it's just
48:55
kind of they kind of built everything from that. So how long does it
48:59
take, really, say, you know, depends on the organization. With
49:01
Steve Heiserman, he gets things done within a few years. Remember he built
49:06
the nucleus of the Tampa Bay Lightning and the Lightning. I don't think it's
49:08
really been the same since Eierman left. But there's no better person talking about
49:13
than George Iithorn Glad George. Oh well, I don't pretend to be an
49:15
expert, but thank you, Scott. There are some people that are questioning,
49:21
you know, they you know, the Redlands still have not made the
49:22
playoffs in teen years, and Isaman is the man that is entrusted to do
49:30
that. But you're right, I think this is a move that they see
49:34
they're eleven and six right now, and they see an opportunity to get into
49:38
the playoffs. Hopefully for their sake. It was a low risk, you
49:45
know kind of thing. I mean, Kane is coming off that hip surgery.
49:47
That's a tough injury for anybody in sports, especially hockey players, so
49:52
nobody really knows. He has been working out very you know, very good
49:59
the last several months according to reports I've read, and he had a really
50:02
good interview with the Red Wings coach when the Wings are in Sweden. They
50:07
did a teleconference in that so everything went good. And of course the brinket,
50:13
you know, being his buddy on the team, that sort of thing.
50:15
And Larkin does have some nagging injury, so their leader Larkin Dylan is
50:21
going to miss a few games, so they say that they're hopeful at Buffalo
50:24
game next week is when the new Red Wing Kine will get in the lineup.
50:30
But I think it's a it's a solid move. Yeah. I mean
50:32
you're talking to a guy who is championship experience and you're bringing them with allars.
50:37
They'll brink at how many times you've seen from teammates join each other and
50:40
they do pretty well when they're even reinnited. So I think it's a low
50:45
risker. Or will you talk one year two point seven five million dollars and
50:49
I imagine that number is probably pro rated anyways, they so what you have
50:52
now, I don't think they're getting the whole two point seven million, and
50:55
if it works out, the Red Wings. You know, you're talking about
50:59
a guy that signed with yet he's actually played on three Original sixteen. Yeah
51:04
about it. You're talking about the black Hawks, all right, Jacob,
51:07
go ahead. Well I'm gonna say this really really fast. Here's how you
51:10
can tell. I always joke about my gray hair, but you want to
51:14
know how you can tell you're getting gray hair when you grew up and who
51:19
was getting older? Al McGinnis, Wayne Gretzky was getting older. You know,
51:23
I'm just saying, these are people getting the thing. It's like Brett
51:25
Hall was in a prime blah blah blah blah. Do you see this gray
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hair right now? Patrick Kane's getting older, Sidney Crosby's getting older, Joe
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Thornton just retired. And I'm just it's like a couple of years ago was
51:37
Zadayah Shara, and it's like, that's when you know what time wise by,
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that's just when you know it. I just want to inform everybody that
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Jacob Chrissmer's interrupted moment is presented by Sidelines for no problem. Hey, we
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had the good depend and the ugly that's all right, that doesn't matter A
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few things. What do you want me to call it? You have anything
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else? You got more here than Howard Cosell Jacob. So anyways, now
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that Jacob didn't Yeah, but he's played for three original six teams, so
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we need to do that. So you know, no show would be fun
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unless I can bust Jacob chris ers chops at least once a night. Now,
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I give it to everybody else. I don't blame you. I like
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giving I like dishing out to you, man, I mean, I really
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do. But at least they handle it with a lot of class, and
52:30
that's really all that matters anyway. So you know, once again, this
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is a sports exchange. And yes, Denzil Snipe says that we're gonna have
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to see if we can go out there and start another broadcast. If we
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don't have a met let's go out there. What do you think, JB?
52:45
You want to partner us on this stand up comedy hour? Scotty yell
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ol, All right, there you go, JB. That may be one
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of the things we talk about when we get together with you tomorrow. I
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don't know, we got all this creativity inside of our system. And I
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can only imagine as twenty twenty four how much more're really gonna get this going
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anyways, But yes, Jacob, I'm proud of you. You are consistent
53:07
on every show. But at least you do it putting your finger up so
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that way I know it's coming for those of you that are watching on YouTube.
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Anyways. With that said, I want to point out that the audio
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54:37
work on it now, but if watch out for twenty twenty four, we're
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gonna be getting a lot more done on that site as well. But we
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are Candy Eppling is the mastermind behind all of that, and you know we're
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gonna have a lot of good ideas to try to make them a very very
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strong website that they'll be able to do a lot of good stuff. But
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that said, Jacob Crisner and everybody know how they get old yet, ah
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Yes, Jacob Pundit on Twitter, Jake the Pundit one on TikTok, Jacob
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Chrisner on Facebook. Five days, I mean five shows a week, sixth
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on the bench. Just keep it on going. I'm building it as I
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do. A couple of movies also, and I do some writing, all
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right. JB JB underscore the program on x Sideline Sports every Tuesday night,
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eight thirty live WDJY in Atlanta Wednesday seven, eight in the morning, NFL
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pregame show Sunday twelve, New to one of WDJY alumni players NFL Player Network
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here at GBED. I'm sure I'm missing places. There's so many DBTV.
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I think that's it all right. Well, we have another author, George
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Glehad. Yeah, my book is out there too. It's been out for
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a while. But Detroit Sports broadcasters on the air. There's a link at
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the end of my column. I write for Scott and Candy at the south
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Ford A Tribune. Drill down to the Motor City Tribune, you know,
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find my columns along with those of Scott and Jeremy at Bowick and a lot
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of other great writers. Jacob and you can reach me at giicorn at yahoo
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dot com or on Twitter at Sanjee Sports ninety nine. And you can follow
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me on Pundit's Pundit and Inside the Pigskin and one hundred eight Stitches, and
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of course this wonderful Sports Exchange show which Gott and I started along with Field
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with Stella many moons ago. So we love the format and we hope you
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do two out there. And the reason why you see the same four people
56:35
we get in week out. One thing our big policy here is to make
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sure that you have continuity and consistency, and that's why the four of us
56:44
do it every Wednesday night. So meanwhile, with that said, on behalf
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of Jacob Christner, jb Ellis and George Eichorn. My name is Scott Morgan,
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Rothomolver City Manmow. Thank you for joining us on this edition of the
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Sports Exchange and we will see you next Wednesday night. Good night every byday other