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Compromise Would Mean a Missed Political Opportunity · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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The news, opinions, commentary, and interviews. You need to start your
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day, and you're listening to the West Carol Morning Show. Tuesday morning,
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twelfth day of September. I'm Wes, thanks for joining me, zipping on
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through the week, zipping on through the month of September. Earth Wind and
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Fire would be proud of us, they would, you know they would.
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I'm a big advocate for their remake of September December, which is the exact
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same song, except they just changed the syllable. I guess a couple of
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syllables. That's all they did. They just made one little, subtle,
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little tiny syllabic change, and that's all you have to do. You make
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that change, and suddenly you got December not September. That's it. One
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syllable boom, done, whole new song, satisfied some word of obligation for
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whatever their record deal was at the time. But put a bunch of Christmas
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songs around it. That's your new song. Let's move on. I feel
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it in my fingers, I feel it in my toes. Christmas is all
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around me, you know. From love. Actually, that's what they did.
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They pulled one of those things. That's exactly how they did it.
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But we are zipping through the month of September. That's what we're doing.
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We're here, we're practically halfway there. I mean by time, by week's
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end, we'll be halfway through September. This is one of those thirty day
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months. And then all of a sudden, it's really right on into Christmas.
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That's what's gonna happen. Before we know it, we'll just zip right
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by Halloween, right on through Thanksgiving it'll be, and then we'll be talking
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about Bowl games New Year's Day. That's what we'll be doing. I don't
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want to get too far ahead of myself. I do want to because it's
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it's an election year next year, and nobody's really ready to get into that.
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Are we really ready to get into that? I mean, I know
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we're in it, but are we ready to get into the fever? The
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fewer that is an election year, a presidential election year, fewer, not
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fewer. It's different. I'm not talking Hitler. Okay, everybody calmed down.
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That's not what I meant. It's not what I mean, right,
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It's not what I mean at all. We had a conversation here in the
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Carroll household. The other day, one of my sons. I won't throw
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him under the bus, but it was Luke. Okay. He was asking
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questions about, you know, learning about history, learning about social studies in
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general, and he was just like, you know, is that why don't
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we learn that stuff? And I said, well, it's important that you
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know when someone compares every politician on the planet to Hitler, how absurd it
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is. It's important that you, even as an eleven year old, understand
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that when a politician calls another politician Hitler, it's absurd. Okay, It's
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very important that we understand, we know that we understand, and that it's
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also important to understand who the major players are in some of the communist revolutions
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in history, right, And maybe most importantly, it's important that we know
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and understand sacrifice is made here on this soil so that we could have the
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idea that is America, not just the country, the idea that is America.
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It's important. Those things are important, right, which he agreed with,
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And then we moved on to another topic and I said, well,
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you know that advanced math you're really good at. I'm glad you're really good
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at it. I hope you continue to be very good at it. But
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you know, I don't use any of that stuff in my life, so
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I'm much more likely. But you know, I have a job where I
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get to talk about history and politics and intentions of the founding fathers and those
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kinds of things. So here we are ready to roll as we get closer
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and closer to election year, and you can start to know that things are
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we're heating things up a little bit because one of the things that's starting to
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happen is, you know, you got obviously, we're in primary season for
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Republicans. Democrats they're they're not going through that process, not yet anyway,
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it doesn't seem they're going to go that way. So we're into the primaries
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for Republicans, which means they're getting a lot of the oxygen right on TV.
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That's a popular term I like to say that. They like to really
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say they get the aisle. Trump's getting all the oxygen. So you start
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singing some of the softball interviews for some of folks on the left, like
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the Vice President. They got to get her out there because first of all,
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they really need to have her on standby, I suppose because at any
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given moment. We don't know where things are going with the President and some
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of the things that he's done and said and his ability to maybe run a
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campaign or is he just gonna lay low again. We don't know. They
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have to have her ready because they don't don't have anybody else. There's a
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lot of speculation about Gavin Newsom. There's some speculation about, you know,
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can they get Buddha Judge. He's kind of bombed out as the transportation guy,
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right, I mean, he's he's not done well at all, not
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at all. There's been there's been no signs of life for any sort of
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campaign. We've seen failures from several others, Bethel Right, Abrahams. We've
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just seen these bomb outs that have happened from candidates that people thought, oh,
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man, one day, this is going to be somebody that's gonna run
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for president. So they gotta have her kind of ready, I guess.
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And she's not doing herself any favors. She She just did an interview where
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really she she had it made man. She was they were lobbing her softball
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questions on Face the Nation and the question came up about abortion. Now,
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I just I'm just gonna love and I'm you know me, I'm reasonable when
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it comes to some of these topics. And I sit here and I talk
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about how both sides sometimes really fail us in a lot of ways, and
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I think sometimes you see the option to actually try to make some sort of
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progress, Okay, and I and I want to be clear about the abortion
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issue because this is one where I feel like we're at a crossroads right now
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where a compromise needs to be achieved by both sides. Okay, whatever that
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compromises, it needs to be achieved. And I'm talking, you know,
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I talk a lot on this show. I speak sometimes from the point of
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view of my faith, and then sometimes I have to speak from the point
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of view of an American who understands that not everybody shares my faith. Okay,
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So yes, my thoughts, my opinions on things rooted in my faith.
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And I've said this many times before. If you're a professing member of
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a faith who finds abortion offensive and basically incomprehensible, right, yet you vote
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along the lines of a party who supports that, I think you're doing the
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faith part of it wrong. I do think that the faith should be what
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guides you in your overall support for your candidates, for your politics. However,
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I do understand that there are issues in the world that don't necessarily fall
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under the category of my faith should dictate how everybody else lives. Okay,
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so Republicans who we have many Republicans in office in the country who say absolutely
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not under no circumstance. I don't know if we got many. We got
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some that say, no abortion whatsoever should not happen. We have some on
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the other extreme who say, you should be able to do it even after
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the baby's born. You know, if there's a disability or something they didn't
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know about, you ought to be able to just do whatever you need to
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do. There's some that say that I understand that both of those are extreme,
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and both sides like to remind us that the other side exists. Okay,
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so right now, once, when Roe v. Wade was the law
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of the land, let's go back to that. We had a number of
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celebrities, some politicians, some general citizens that were advocates for rights. They
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would brag and sort of rub in the face of Americans who disagreed with the
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idea of having an abortion, and they would say, oh, number five,
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my fifth abortion. That was my favorite one. I loved that abortion.
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That was a great one. And that sort of poking of the bear,
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I think is partly to blame for the continued fight to end Roe v.
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Wade wasn't the full thing. I think it genuinely comes from a place
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of people who don't understand. And I think that's the first thing that people
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need to grasp is that you genuinely have people on both sides of this issue
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who just can't comprehend the other side's perspective on it. They name call,
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they throw things around, They say, well, you don't have a vagina,
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so you should not be involved in this whole process, which, on
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the surface, that argument sounds like a good argument. But I like to
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remind people sometimes that let's go to the other side for just a minute,
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and let's just consider the fact that you have some people who believe that that
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unborn child is without protection, without an advocate, and is about to have
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its life taken away from it. And I make this comparison sometimes because I
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know many people who would be on the if you don't have a vagina side
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of the argument. But they'll drive down the street, a busy highway and
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they'll see a wounded animal or a turtle in the road, and they'll stop
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the car, they'll get out, they'll move the turtle to save its life,
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and then they get back in their car and they drive on and continue
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on with their day. And I've told people this before that the logic there
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is that it's an unprotected life that is in danger. And that's the way
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many on the right feel about this issue. They look at it and they
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say, we should protect that unborn child. Now, the real debate here
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is when is the child alive? The left says, well, not until
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it's born, or you know, not until it's alive, until I decide
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I don't want it, because that's one of the arguments that we hear sometimes
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on the right. There's issues about at what point heartbeat can feel pain?
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What is the point when you're going to say, you know and buy logic,
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heartbeat stops, you're dead, heartbeat begins, you're alive. There's some
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on the right that follow that. So when you had Rov Wade and you
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had people sort of just provoking the whole issue and saying, ah, number
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two, boy, I love that one. Three not so much. And
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there were those people right and there were people advocating for doing it right up
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until the baby was born. So I'm wanting to do it in third trimester.
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I don't think that's most people, right. I don't think most people
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say it shouldn't happen at all, And I don't think most people think that
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it should happen right up until birth. So the question now becomes at what
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point should there be a cutoff? And this is an opportunity for there to
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be a compromise, resolve this issue and move on. And here's what we
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have. We have some Republicans who have been now running for president. We
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saw this in the last debate, starting to throw out numbers. Is it
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twelve weeks, is it fifteen weeks? What's the number Democrats? However,
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and the Vice President on face the nation had multiple opportunities to answer the question,
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well, what's the cutoff point? What should it be? And her
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answer was repeatedly a very generic one that was had a very specific purpose.
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But she kept saying, we need to reinstill rov Wade is the law of
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the land. The interviewer kept asking, yes, but let's talk specifically about
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which week, because there should be a decision made Republicans are offering up,
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you know, some compromise, and Harris again said, well, we need
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to get back to the rov Wade being the law of the land. The
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anchor, by the way, doing the interview Margaret Brennan, and she kept
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asking the question over and over again and could not get an answer, and
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then finally we got to a point where the Vice President lay out really what
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this is all about. She said, we got to get enough people in
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Congress in the Senate that can pass new laws so that this will be the
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law of the land. See, this is a campaign issue. This isn't
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about resolving issues for women. They She criticizes Republicans in the interview who say
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that, you know, women want to have abortions right up until the moment
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of birth, and she's like, ah, that's not really happening. And
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then she says, and women right now are having miscarriages into toilets because of
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this, using the same kind of hyperbole in the other direction, and then
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ultimately coming back around to her point, we have to make this about getting
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the right people elected to Congress so that we can make law of the land
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kind of changes and transitions, and we can make this happen. See,
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this isn't about protecting the rights of women. She made a point that her
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twenty year old daughter will have less rights than her grandmother when it comes to
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abortion. Well, if it's about guaranteeing her twenty year old or any young
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woman the rights that she's talking about, why are we not negotiating. It
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seems like we have one side who's lobbing out, Hey, twelve weeks,
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fifteen weeks, what do we want to talk about here, and the other
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side saying, ladies, get out there and vote. We gotta make a
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difference through our votes. We gotta make a difference in this. Otherwise you're
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never you know, you're gonna be stuck with the toilets. You know,
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all this imagery that we get. We started hearing the word code anger and
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all these things. Now, she didn't bring this up in this interview.
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She did mention the toilets. But I thought this was about trying to protect
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those women. I thought this was about trying to protect the rights of women.
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But this is not what it's about. It's about a campaign issue.
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It's clear this is a campaign issue. It's clear this is about rallying voters
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and rallying support. It's not about trying to help people. They're trying to
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rally votes for themselves. They're trying to rally votes for power and for control.
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Why isn't there discussions If Republicans say twelve weeks, and I know some
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are saying as little as six or four weeks. But if Republicans are offering
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twelve weeks and if Democrats want twenty weeks, I think there's a middle.
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There isn't there? I mean, isn't there a spot where both sides can
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maybe shake hands, reach across the aisle, shake hands, and for once
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in a very very long time, put something behind us and move on to
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the next issue. I mean, it's sixteen weeks something that both sides can't
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agree to. I'm not advocating for sixteen weeks. I'm not advocating for any
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of it. I'm looking at this from a political standpoint. I'm looking at
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this from the standpoint of can't we come up with some sort of a compromise
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and move on? One side says twelve, The other side doesn't want to
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say anything. One side says twelve, the other side says, hey,
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register to vote, make a difference. Let's get it back to where there
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is no clear, defined law in place. Let's get back to where you
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can brag about it on TV. Let's get back where you can have a
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big rally and tell everybody that you know which one was your favorite. Let's
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get back to that stage. Is that where we want to be? Is
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that what we want to get back to? I mean, some sort of
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a compromise. Seems like this is the and I said when Roe v.
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Wade was overturned. This gives us an opportunity for both sides to be heard.
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And now one side is excited to have the opportunity to be heard again,
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and the other side is upset about it. They want those people voted
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out so that they can have all the say again, this is the way
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it's supposed to work. We're supposed to try to find some kind of compromise.
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I know it's crazy. Asking for that is absurd, isn't it.
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It's absurd. But like we talked about yesterday on the anniversary of twenty two
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years nine to eleven, there was a period of time, very brief period
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of time, we put everything aside and looked at each other as people,
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not as opponents, not as someone to hate or fear or call Hitler with
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no real knowledge of history, apparently, just throw out. And why does
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Hitler get all the way? Why don't we throw stalin in there? Every
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now and then? I think, I know, why, Why don't we
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throw a Mao in there? Pole pot? Why don't we throw there's some
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of those names in there. Huh No, No, it's Hitler. It's
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always Hitler. But if we actually made an effort to try to get along
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with each other, we made an effort to compromise on things, it would
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make it a little bit harder to call each other Hitler, wouldn't it.
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com more West Carol Morning Show. Right after the break, an article published
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on Friday Slate. I'm not encouraging you to go read it, by the
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way, is there anything really positive to come out of Slate says that Martin
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Short is overrated and unfunny, and it lists a bunch of his characters that
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he's played and says it's just a sweaty, unfunny mess. How dare you,
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sir or ma'am? I don't know who wrote it. How dare you
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person? How dare you? Martin Short is a gem I was gonna say,
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an American hero, but he's Canadian. But Martin short is a North
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American hero and how dare you call him unfunny? Anybody who would come up
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put together a list of different pumpkin spiced foods that people are searching for,
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uniquely searched pumpkin spiced foods by each state. And this is the breakdown,
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and this will give you an idea of what people are looking for. And
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I'll just mention a few states because some of these make sense because they relate
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to I mean, I guess this is rulling out coffee, because I don't
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see anything coffee related in here I do see donuts like South Carolina has the
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pumpkin spice donuts as their top search, as does Tennessee. Florida has the
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pumpkin spice roll. Pumpkin spice popcorn in Alabama. Georgia, though, this
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is one of the ones that's a bit of a head scratcher. Pumpkin spice
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empanadas. I didn't even know that was a thing. That's a thing?
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Is that really a thing? I don't know. Pumpkin spice tacos, I
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guess in the same kind of theme. That's from Minnesota. Pumpkin spice Tamali's
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for South Dakota. Some of these this is are weird, right. Arizona's
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got pumpkin spice spam, which I think wasn't that a joke or was that
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a real thing? I don't know. Pumpkin spice low for North Carolina.
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Pumpkin spice cheerios popped up in a few places. Pumpkin spice oreos, but
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again those are sort of seasonal things. Pumpkin spice goldfish, those are those
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are sort of you know, like seasonal products like oreos. People are always
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kind of looking to see what the next OREO item might be. I guess,
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so that kind of makes some sense that people would look that up.
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But anyway, it's it's a bit strange, don't you think. All Right,
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it's that time of a year where people start talking about the sexiest Man
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of twenty twenty three for People magazine, and you can vote on their website
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who you think should win the title. I mean, if you vote for
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me, that's fine. I mean a lot of people do. But I'm
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not going to sit here in campaign for it. I'm not going to tell
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you to do it. I don't like those contests when people will go,
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hey, this uh publication has nominated us for this prize. Please get out
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there and vote for us and support us. That's not natural. You know,
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it's not a grassroots campaign. You're out there campaigning for it. You're
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begging for the votes. That doesn't make you the you know, best pumpkin
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spice latte joint in town. No, no, no, that means that
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you just campaign the hardest. So but I mean, I guess that's how
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you play the game. I'm not playing the game, though. I mean,
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if you vote for me, you vote for me. I appreciate it.
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You don't have to, though, here's some of the other categories.
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Besides people's sexiest Man, they have a Sexiest TV Star, Sexiest movie Star,
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Sexiest TikTok Star, Sexiest first time dad, exist Grandpa, and then
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there's a I guess in the theme everything has to have a Barbie theme to
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it, doesn't It's sexiest Ken in the realm of the Barbie world. So
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is making a comeback. Rhianna, Hailey Bieber and others. They're starting to
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