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- 0:00(upbeat music)
- 0:04Hi, D.O. boys and girls,
- 0:05it's time for another
- 0:06G Talk Show interview.
- 0:07We're gonna be talking with Rob.
- 0:08Rob has been at Gazelle
- 0:10Tents for the past seven years,
- 0:11serving as brand manager
- 0:13and director of marketing.
- 0:14A key leader at Artisam,
- 0:16the company behind Gazelle,
- 0:17Rob has helped grow
- 0:18the brand's reputation
- 0:20for innovation, pre-assembled hub tents
- 0:23and portable gazebos that
- 0:26set up in under 90 seconds.
- 0:27Rob, why do women like gazebos so bad?
- 0:30So much, is it novels,
- 0:33those romance novels?
- 0:34I don't know.
- 0:36You know what I'm
- 0:36talking about though, right?
- 0:37I know what you're talking about.
- 0:39Yeah, I think it's just
- 0:40getting out of the elements,
- 0:42having a little bit of a
- 0:45retreat from harsh winds
- 0:47and blazing slimes.
- 0:50They like that geometric shape though,
- 0:52so it's confusing to me.
- 0:54It's cool, I mean, I don't care,
- 0:55I just find it interesting.
- 0:57I tell you, it really lends itself to
- 0:59conversations, right?
- 1:00I mean, getting people together
- 1:01and talking around the fire and stuff.
- 1:03So yeah, that's a big part of it.
- 1:07All right, so Gazelle's rugged designs,
- 1:09especially the popular T3X
- 1:11and the T4 Overland models
- 1:13are favorites among Jeep
- 1:15owners and Overlanders.
- 1:16They offer spacious
- 1:18interiors with standup headroom.
- 1:20I think that's important too.
- 1:21You never like to have to crouch down,
- 1:23especially if you're six foot or over.
- 1:26Pack down compact enough to
- 1:27fit in the back of a Wrangler
- 1:29and deliver fast, reliable shelter
- 1:31for everything from weekend car camping
- 1:33to serious off-road adventures.
- 1:36You can learn more about Gazelle tents
- 1:37just simply by going
- 1:38over to gazelletents.com.
- 1:42All right, Rob, you got a tent.
- 1:43I think everybody wants a tent.
- 1:46Some people like to have
- 1:47it attached to their Jeep,
- 1:49but that has a problem with storage
- 1:52and you may want to use your like a
- 1:54gladiator, for example,
- 1:56you might actually want to use it to
- 1:57carry something around
- 1:58in the bed of the truck.
- 1:59And this seems to be a way
- 2:00of having a place to stay,
- 2:02which how often do you
- 2:03have to have a place to stay?
- 2:04I mean, you get in trouble occasionally
- 2:06and you have an option of
- 2:07the couch or the tent, right?
- 2:09Right, exactly.
- 2:10Well, the big thing about it too is that,
- 2:12you can set up your base
- 2:13camp, leave for the day
- 2:15and not have to pack up
- 2:16your sleeping arrangements.
- 2:18Kind of stake your spot and get off
- 2:20to do what you went
- 2:21for in the first place.
- 2:23And the speed of
- 2:24execution of assembling it,
- 2:26that's the key to it all.
- 2:28Because nobody goes out to set up a tent.
- 2:32That's the least favorite part of it.
- 2:34Especially if it's windy and rainy
- 2:36and that can be quite cumbersome.
- 2:39What do you guys recommend
- 2:40if you are in a windy, rainy environment?
- 2:42I mean, you can be really sleepy,
- 2:43really tired from the
- 2:44long trip to getting there.
- 2:46Do you recommend not setting it up
- 2:48until maybe the
- 2:48weather gets a little better?
- 2:50I tell you what, it's fine
- 2:52if you have a couple of people do it
- 2:53so one person can hold it
- 2:55while the other one starts popping out
- 2:56the walls and stuff.
- 2:57But really the biggest thing is that
- 2:59if you're setting up at
- 3:00windy, rainy conditions,
- 3:02check your location first, right?
- 3:03You don't wanna set up in a low spot.
- 3:05Yeah.
- 3:06(laughs)
- 3:06And then the second--
- 3:08Are you feeling damp?
- 3:09Did you pee yourself?
- 3:10What's going on here?
- 3:12(laughs) The second part of it is if you stake off
- 3:15and tie off to the hubs,
- 3:17that's gonna set your walls
- 3:19against the strongest winds.
- 3:20I mean, we've had them
- 3:21out at some overland expos
- 3:23where the winds have
- 3:24reached excess of 55 miles an hour
- 3:26and they've done just fine.
- 3:27I was gonna ask you about
- 3:28that high wind situation.
- 3:30Yeah, this was
- 3:32originally developed by RSM
- 3:35in the hunting and ice fishing divisions.
- 3:39And so they're meant to take
- 3:41a lot of the elements, right?
- 3:43So we saw people
- 3:44actually camping and sleeping
- 3:46in our ice fishing
- 3:47shelters or in our hunting guides.
- 3:49And we just said, that's a terrible idea.
- 3:51So we developed a camping
- 3:52line to kind of, you know,
- 3:55get the features to match the product
- 3:58that people are using it for.
- 4:00Now I'm a Texan, I've
- 4:01been in Texas all my life.
- 4:03I've seen snow a few times
- 4:06being down here in Southeast Texas, the
- 4:07general Houston area.
- 4:09And I gotta say, I am
- 4:11fascinated about the ice hole
- 4:14where you cut the hole in the ice and
- 4:16you're camping on it.
- 4:17And some of these people have houses
- 4:19that they drag out there.
- 4:21And I just think the
- 4:22whole idea is so cool
- 4:23where you got nothing to do.
- 4:25Now with Starlink, you
- 4:26could have internet now,
- 4:28but maybe they wanna
- 4:29get away from that too.
- 4:30But I think that is so cool.
- 4:31So you actually have tents that people
- 4:33can do the same thing,
- 4:34which is a lot easier
- 4:35than dragging a house.
- 4:38Right, right.
- 4:38You can go out on the ice
- 4:39and ice fishing, you know,
- 4:41camping the same tent
- 4:43you're fishing out of.
- 4:46So yeah, those are definitely
- 4:48specifically designed
- 4:49for ice fishing.
- 4:50I wouldn't camp in the summer in them.
- 4:52You might get a little warm and all.
- 4:54And, you know, because they're insulated,
- 4:56they tend to take on some water.
- 4:58Well, that's cool that it's insulated.
- 5:00So you can have, and I
- 5:01would assume you can have a fire
- 5:03or something that
- 5:04would generate heat inside.
- 5:06Generally what some people do,
- 5:07because there's no
- 5:08floor in the rice shelters,
- 5:09they'll run a diesel heater,
- 5:12some venting through to get some heat in.
- 5:15But then, you know, up
- 5:16here, they're pretty rugged.
- 5:17So they kind of enjoy that cold.
- 5:19Yep, yep.
- 5:21So why the gazebo style?
- 5:24Why the multiple angles?
- 5:26Is that just to be a little different
- 5:27than a standard tent?
- 5:28Or was there another reason for that?
- 5:31Well, I mean, even though
- 5:32the pack size is larger,
- 5:33by doing it in the
- 5:35hexagonal or pentagonal shapes,
- 5:37it gives much more space.
- 5:39And like I said, people
- 5:40like it because they like
- 5:42to sit around in a circle and, you know,
- 5:45share camp stories.
- 5:46So that's been a big thing.
- 5:48It also does a nice job as far as like,
- 5:51in it for backyard use and stuff,
- 5:53you can fit a full size
- 5:55picnic table in there.
- 5:56And, you know, four to eight people,
- 5:58depending on which gazebo you go with.
- 6:00What is it that I've heard?
- 6:01Is it Michigan that the
- 6:02state bird is a mosquito?
- 6:04I would--
- 6:04I think it's all up here on the bed.
- 6:07I think that that
- 6:09might be handy, you know,
- 6:10if you wanted to, if it was nice outside
- 6:12and you wanted to go have a picnic
- 6:13and not have to worry
- 6:14about the mosquitoes.
- 6:16Right, exactly, exactly.
- 6:17And we've got a
- 6:19proprietary mesh that we use in ours.
- 6:21It's called Tri-Tech.
- 6:22So it's 25% more airflow,
- 6:25which if anybody's using
- 6:27one of our competitor gazebos
- 6:29or one of our previous
- 6:30models, you know that in the heat,
- 6:32they retain heat.
- 6:33So, but this one allows
- 6:35the airflow to go through,
- 6:36plus it's stronger and
- 6:38it keeps out no seams.
- 6:39So yeah, it's
- 6:41definitely a nice, you know,
- 6:43retreat from the bug
- 6:44infestation we see here in summers.
- 6:47Sometimes it's nicest to get outside,
- 6:49especially if it's a nice day.
- 6:50So how long does it take?
- 6:53Did I read 90 seconds to--
- 6:55Well, for the gazebo--
- 6:57Yeah, for the gazebo it takes 60
- 6:58because you don't have
- 6:59a rain fly to install.
- 7:01But for the tents, it's 90 seconds.
- 7:03So this could be a whim.
- 7:05This could be like that last minute idea
- 7:08for a road trip.
- 7:09You can say, "Hey, let's
- 7:11take lunch outside today."
- 7:13And 60 seconds or so,
- 7:15even if you're clumsy,
- 7:17it's not gonna take you
- 7:18a long time to get that.
- 7:20And I would assume it has
- 7:21some sort of a container pack
- 7:24or something that you keep it in.
- 7:28Yeah, so all of our bags that we use,
- 7:30whether it's the tents or
- 7:31the gazebo, they're oversized.
- 7:33So at the end of the day,
- 7:34when you're packing it up,
- 7:35you're not like-- Thank God.
- 7:37It's not like stuffing sausage, right?
- 7:39You can get it in as
- 7:40easy as you took it out.
- 7:42Yeah, it's like, "Okay,
- 7:43let's take some pictures
- 7:44so we can get it back
- 7:45in the same shape it was
- 7:46to get it back in as a bag."
- 7:48Some of those, it seems
- 7:49like they sell the bag
- 7:50right around the tent.
- 7:51So there's not a square inch to spare.
- 7:543D printer, it's a 3D printed tent bag.
- 7:58So what kind of colors do you have?
- 8:00I would assume if they
- 8:02were designed initially
- 8:02for hunting, you probably
- 8:04have some nice matching colors
- 8:08for the outdoors.
- 8:09Yeah, so in the gazebo lines,
- 8:12we stay pretty neutral
- 8:13in the tans and browns.
- 8:14So you've got a desert sand,
- 8:16which is a nice
- 8:17slight kind of beige color
- 8:19in our opening price points.
- 8:20And then we've got a cool top gazebo,
- 8:23which is really unique.
- 8:25It basically has a rain fly on it.
- 8:27So the thing, again, this is a innovation
- 8:30that other brands haven't done.
- 8:33It's got a gap between
- 8:34the roof, the screened roof
- 8:36and the rain fly so that
- 8:37air can, heat can escape
- 8:39and air can come in.
- 8:40So it really can increase the air flow.
- 8:42Plus by doing a rain
- 8:44fly, we can seal the seams
- 8:45so it's waterproof.
- 8:47The other thing is the rain
- 8:48fly runs out past the base
- 8:49of the gazebo, so it'll run
- 8:51water away from the sides.
- 8:55And then that one's in
- 8:57what we call Badlands Brown.
- 8:59It's kind of almost
- 9:00like a Carhartt Brown.
- 9:02And then we've got another
- 9:03one, which is a tandem gazebo.
- 9:04So it's a six-sided gazebo,
- 9:07but it's two gazebo side by side.
- 9:10Oh, that's nice.
- 9:11And that one comes in agave green.
- 9:14And the nice thing
- 9:15about that is the pack size
- 9:16is about 18 inches shorter
- 9:18than the six-sided gazebo.
- 9:20The hex side shaped one.
- 9:23So I would assume that
- 9:26this is just your basic tent.
- 9:27You can put whatever you want to in it.
- 9:29The ones for ice fishing
- 9:31and stuff don't have a floor.
- 9:33But do the others come with a floor?
- 9:35Yeah, our tents all
- 9:36have a removable floor.
- 9:38So the idea behind the removable floor
- 9:40is it's easy cleanup.
- 9:42The other thing is that's nice about it.
- 9:44In most tents, that's the first thing
- 9:45that's gonna go is the floor.
- 9:47Because that gets the most wear and tear.
- 9:49If you ever were to put a hole in it
- 9:51and you're out of warranty,
- 9:51you can get a replacement floor
- 9:54and not have to scrap the tent.
- 9:56What kind of warranty
- 9:57are we talking about here?
- 9:59We have a one-year warranty.
- 10:01But we carry parts for 10
- 10:03years past the service date
- 10:06or past the selling date of the tents.
- 10:08So if you had ever, I mean, we have tents
- 10:10that have been out there
- 10:11for seven, eight years now
- 10:13after steady use weekend after weekend.
- 10:15And they're just like
- 10:17the day they put them out.
- 10:18So they last a long time.
- 10:22So cots, what the
- 10:26hell, the sleeping bags.
- 10:28And I would assume that
- 10:30you guys don't have a line
- 10:31of like inflatable furniture
- 10:33or anything like that, right?
- 10:34I will say we don't have one yet.
- 10:37Ah, there we go.
- 10:39We're constantly working on things.
- 10:40Oh, I was gonna say,
- 10:41maybe you're gonna give us
- 10:42a little information,
- 10:43something to come up.
- 10:44Something that's coming out.
- 10:46Yeah, we're constantly
- 10:47working on that type of things.
- 10:49We should see something here in the
- 10:50relatively near future.
- 10:52I think that's really handy too,
- 10:53because if you can
- 10:54pack it and it's small,
- 10:55but it makes the in
- 10:57there more comfortable.
- 10:59I mean, you can get those
- 10:59folding chairs and stuff,
- 11:01but sometimes it's nice
- 11:02to have a bit of a cushion.
- 11:04Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 11:05So all of our tents
- 11:07are a little bit over.
- 11:09So people are always
- 11:10saying, what do you mean?
- 11:12Three person tent, four person tent.
- 11:14You can't put four people in that tent.
- 11:17Well, what we've done,
- 11:18everybody bases it off
- 11:19industry standard, which is,
- 11:21most people don't fit within that.
- 11:23So ours are actually slightly larger
- 11:25than what industry standard is.
- 11:27That's a safe way to go.
- 11:28It's a good way to go.
- 11:28Yeah.
- 11:31Us men will order a
- 11:32large and then find out
- 11:34we need an extra large or a two X large.
- 11:37So yeah, being a little bit bigger
- 11:40saves you some time and expense
- 11:42whenever you're buying things.
- 11:45So I was looking at
- 11:46some of the ones here,
- 11:47the really big tents,
- 11:48which I think are cool.
- 11:50What would you say that
- 11:51the big tents are best for?
- 11:53I mean, you don't have
- 11:53to have eight friends
- 11:54or six friends to go camping with you,
- 11:56but I would imagine if you're coming out
- 11:58with a line of furniture type stuff,
- 12:00that would make it very convenient.
- 12:01Maybe a place where you
- 12:02could set up a Coleman stove
- 12:04or where you could actually
- 12:06have room to set things up,
- 12:08especially if you were staying there
- 12:09for three days a week or two weeks.
- 12:12Yeah, so when you're
- 12:13looking at the tandem tents,
- 12:14you've got a dedicated
- 12:15sleeping area in the back
- 12:17and then you've got a separation panel
- 12:20that you can zip
- 12:21closed from the front end
- 12:22and that front end is convertible.
- 12:24You can use it as another sleeping area
- 12:26by putting down the privacy panels,
- 12:28or you can leave them
- 12:29open as like a screen tent
- 12:30for a place to hang out in the afternoon.
- 12:33So it's very versatile
- 12:34from that standpoint.
- 12:35And like I said, it works great
- 12:37for just a couple of
- 12:38people going out up to,
- 12:40six to eight people going out,
- 12:41depending on what you need it for.
- 12:44It's very, like I said,
- 12:45with that convertible screen room,
- 12:47gives you a lot of options.
- 12:50So have you done any
- 12:51kind of testing and Jeeps
- 12:53to see how much, if there's
- 12:55enough room in a Wrangler?
- 12:57I mean, Gladiator
- 12:57probably is not a bad deal,
- 12:59not hard because it's
- 13:00got a five foot bed on it.
- 13:01But do you have a limit
- 13:03on some of these tents
- 13:04as far as storing it successfully?
- 13:06So these are long pack tents.
- 13:09It's kind of the nature of the beast
- 13:12when you're making something that's
- 13:13already preassembled
- 13:14where you can't break
- 13:15poles down to assemble it.
- 13:18So generally what we see people doing
- 13:20is either putting them up on the roof,
- 13:22or if they're just a
- 13:24couple of people traveling,
- 13:25they'll drop the back seat
- 13:26down in an SUV or something
- 13:28and slide them in that way.
- 13:30And is that for all the
- 13:30tents that you sell will fit?
- 13:33Certainly they should fit on top,
- 13:35but-- Yeah, for the most part,
- 13:37yeah, I mean the gazebos
- 13:39actually get a little longer
- 13:41because it's based
- 13:41off of the longest pole.
- 13:43And that's the roof pole.
- 13:45And when you're spreading
- 13:45it over that large area,
- 13:47it gets pretty long.
- 13:49But like I said, we've
- 13:50got some models that are out
- 13:54or coming out that are
- 13:55shorter pack lengths.
- 13:57We launched last year the T4 EXP,
- 14:01which will be back in
- 14:02stock here at the end of May.
- 14:04And that one is the size
- 14:06of a T4 or four person tent.
- 14:09The original T4 fit in a
- 14:11bag that was 68 inches long.
- 14:13We were able to
- 14:14reconfigure how the poles work
- 14:16and got it down to 58 inches in length.
- 14:18So now that one is much more comparable
- 14:21to what we see a lot of
- 14:22Jeep owners using in the T3X.
- 14:24So they're the same length,
- 14:26but you get the 10
- 14:28more inches in headroom
- 14:30and you get another about 25
- 14:32square feet in space there.
- 14:36So it sounds like the pole isn't,
- 14:38the main pole isn't collapsible.
- 14:39So I would think that that would means
- 14:41that it gives you a lot of strength.
- 14:43Yeah, so that gives
- 14:45you a lot of strength.
- 14:46And also, like I said,
- 14:47it just makes the
- 14:48assembly that much easier.
- 14:49When you're not fishing poles through,
- 14:51you're just popping walls
- 14:52and pushing up the rough hub
- 14:54and you're ready to go.
- 14:55And then the last thing you
- 14:56do is stake out from the hubs
- 14:57and you're ready to rock for the weekend.
- 15:00Yeah, time to take a nap.
- 15:03Well, it doesn't sound
- 15:05like it's overly stressful
- 15:06putting up these tents.
- 15:07So you probably don't need a nap for
- 15:09putting the tent up.
- 15:10Although I can imagine
- 15:11there's some tents out there.
- 15:12I think even the pop-up
- 15:13tents can be a little more,
- 15:17require a little more effort than what
- 15:19we're talking about here.
- 15:19Because these tents
- 15:20are pretty light, right?
- 15:22Yeah, when we say 90 seconds assembly,
- 15:24that's for one person.
- 15:25So that's the biggest
- 15:27difference from a lot of people
- 15:28that say we got a quick setup.
- 15:30So when you're talking
- 15:30about easy ups and stuff,
- 15:32it does go much easier if
- 15:33you got a second person.
- 15:34Yeah, so reading between the lines,
- 15:36if that second person is your wife,
- 15:38it could take double that amount of time.
- 15:41Did you read the instructions?
- 15:43What are you doing over there?
- 15:44Are you sure about this?
- 15:46We always try to guess how
- 15:47many marriages we've saved.
- 15:49Exactly.
- 15:51From all the reduced
- 15:52arguing that goes on.
- 15:54Oh, and I was gonna ask,
- 15:55so I would assume you use
- 15:56some sort of tent stakes
- 15:57or something to keep this thing down
- 15:59and from blowing away.
- 16:00So with the overland additions,
- 16:03we use what's called an ultra rain stake.
- 16:06We did research where we
- 16:08grabbed a bunch of different stakes
- 16:10and different geometries and stakes
- 16:12and measured them in
- 16:13all kinds of different,
- 16:14all kinds of different base,
- 16:16whether it be sand or wet, or hard pan.
- 16:20And the stakes that we came up with
- 16:22overall held the best
- 16:24in all those conditions.
- 16:25So you get a really good stake
- 16:27with the overland addition tents.
- 16:28So maybe you've taken this into account,
- 16:31but what do you do
- 16:32when you have the perfect,
- 16:34beautiful camping area and it's all rock?
- 16:38I mean, you really don't have,
- 16:40I mean, you know what I'm saying?
- 16:41It's not just a boulder,
- 16:43but the four points or the six points
- 16:46or whatever you wanna tie down to,
- 16:47it's just mostly rock.
- 16:49And I mean, you have like weighted things
- 16:51that you could put on there?
- 16:53What we've seen or
- 16:54what I've done in the past
- 16:55is what I'll do is
- 16:56I'll take a five gallon,
- 16:57a series of five gallon buckets with me,
- 16:59just load them up with the
- 17:00rocks and tie right off to that.
- 17:03And it seems to do quite well.
- 17:05Yeah, I mean, I'm sure
- 17:06there's people out there
- 17:06that have gone camping and
- 17:08tenting and they figure it out.
- 17:09I mean, you find a little
- 17:11shrubs and maybe your vehicle
- 17:14or anything you can do to tie it down
- 17:16where you necessary.
- 17:17Do you have to have, does the tent have
- 17:21any rigidity by itself
- 17:23or do you absolutely
- 17:24have to have all the points
- 17:26attached to the ground?
- 17:27Yeah, I would say that, like I said,
- 17:30if you tie off to the
- 17:31four spots on the hubs,
- 17:33that's really all you need.
- 17:34It has some rigidity to it.
- 17:36It's just that, you know, you never know
- 17:38when that renegade
- 17:39wind is gonna come through
- 17:40and knock you off, you know, so.
- 17:41Yeah, and of course,
- 17:42that's what I'm asking about.
- 17:44Best case scenario or
- 17:46worst case scenario,
- 17:46you wanna make sure all
- 17:48the tie down points are tied.
- 17:50Now you've mentioned
- 17:50the hub a couple of times
- 17:51and I forgot to ask you, you
- 17:54know what the hell that is.
- 17:55I mean, I know what a hub is.
- 17:56But for our audience, what is the hub?
- 17:58Is that like the
- 17:59central point for the gazebo?
- 18:01Yeah, that's the central point.
- 18:02You have on a standard
- 18:04T4, you have four wall hubs
- 18:06and a roof hub.
- 18:08Basically in each
- 18:09wall, there's four poles
- 18:10that are anchored in each corner.
- 18:12And then they go into a central hub,
- 18:16which is right in the center of the wall.
- 18:18They all go in there.
- 18:19When you push it in,
- 18:20the whole thing folds up.
- 18:22When you pop it out,
- 18:23that's when it assembles.
- 18:24So like I said, it's just
- 18:25a matter of popping things.
- 18:26It's not, like I said, you're not,
- 18:29we've done this at Expos
- 18:31where we get the smallest kid
- 18:35that walks by and have
- 18:36him set it up himself
- 18:37just to show how easy the
- 18:39whole assembly process is.
- 18:41You know, the five and six year olds
- 18:42that are popping the
- 18:43walls and maybe a little help
- 18:45with pushing the roof up,
- 18:46they can usually do it really easily.
- 18:50So you mentioned the ability to open up
- 18:53to allow the heat to
- 18:55rise out of the tent.
- 18:56Is that in the center
- 18:57or on the sides or yes?
- 18:59So when you pop the roof
- 19:01up, you get a doming effect
- 19:03and the rain fly domes over that.
- 19:06So you've got a gap
- 19:07between the screened roof
- 19:09and the rain fly.
- 19:10And that's where all the
- 19:11air floor comes through.
- 19:14Yeah, so there's no, oh,
- 19:15hurry up and close that up.
- 19:17It's the, this is the gap from the,
- 19:19not, I want to call it a
- 19:21tarp, but it's not a tarp,
- 19:22but basically people would understand it.
- 19:24It's like a tarp over the top.
- 19:26Right, exactly. That makes the rain,
- 19:27that flows the rain
- 19:28off of the tent itself.
- 19:30So you have an opening between that gap.
- 19:32Yeah, and by having that gap in between,
- 19:34especially on the tent,
- 19:35it really helps to reduce condensation.
- 19:38Oh yeah, that makes sense.
- 19:39In the tent.
- 19:39So yeah, I get it.
- 19:40Like I said, it
- 19:41provides a lot of air flow.
- 19:44How does that work
- 19:46whenever it's really cold outside?
- 19:47Or should you be in another tent
- 19:50if you're going to be
- 19:51camping and very cold?
- 19:53Yeah, that's kind of why
- 19:54we launched the new EXP
- 19:55last year is because that one there,
- 19:57that one has an HVAC port,
- 19:59so you can run diesel heat through it.
- 20:01And it also has sealable roof panels.
- 20:03So you can, a lot of people in the
- 20:06summer, they'll take,
- 20:07if it's not going to rain,
- 20:08they'll take the rain fly off
- 20:09so they can walk at the stars at night.
- 20:11But when you're in the colder weather,
- 20:13the EXP works up
- 20:14because you can seal those,
- 20:16seal those screen vent panels
- 20:17in the roof to trap heat in.
- 20:19Right.
- 20:21What is the, if you
- 20:23have this information,
- 20:24what is the longest that
- 20:25somebody's used the tent?
- 20:27You know, like one outing
- 20:29has been out there for 30 days
- 20:31or a week.
- 20:32I've had, yeah, we've had some people
- 20:35that we've seen that have
- 20:37taken it on month-long trips
- 20:39up to Alaska or, you know,
- 20:42and just used it every night.
- 20:44And they're still using it today.
- 20:47And that was, I started here,
- 20:49I was going on eight years now,
- 20:50and I correspond with somebody
- 20:53who's still using the same tent.
- 20:56Yeah, I was just-
- 20:57He's using it, he's using it daily, so.
- 21:00Yeah, so is he traveling around
- 21:03and breaking down camp
- 21:06and setting it back up?
- 21:07Or is it set up and they
- 21:09just kind of do the thing
- 21:10in that general area?
- 21:11How does that work with the 30 days?
- 21:13He's actually leading people on tours
- 21:16and he sleeps in the tent
- 21:17while they sleep in his RV.
- 21:19So he's setting it up and
- 21:20taking it out every night.
- 21:22So-
- 21:22As they travel.
- 21:23Yeah, so this has been
- 21:24a grease-ly bear tested
- 21:26up in Alaska, I'm assuming.
- 21:29Yeah, yeah, I hope not, but-
- 21:31It always scares the hell out of me
- 21:32when you're thinking
- 21:33about camping in a tent,
- 21:34it's just a wrapper, you know,
- 21:36for the goodies that are inside.
- 21:39Yeah, we're up here in bear country,
- 21:41so we know about that.
- 21:43Yeah, and I think a
- 21:44lot of people like me,
- 21:46I mean, I think we have
- 21:47some brown bears around here
- 21:48close by, but certainly
- 21:49not in the Houston area.
- 21:53So I think it's the,
- 21:55well, it's like everybody,
- 21:56there's tornadoes down here quite a bit.
- 21:59And people are always
- 22:00talking about tornado this,
- 22:02they're so scary and so on and so forth.
- 22:04And I'll tell people,
- 22:05I've been here all my life,
- 22:06I've never seen a tornado.
- 22:09I mean, I think I've heard them,
- 22:10I think that they've been close by,
- 22:12but they're such a local phenomenon
- 22:14that it's kind of weird if you see one
- 22:18or even get affected by one.
- 22:20And as I always tell people,
- 22:22unless you're living
- 22:22in a mobile home park,
- 22:23you're never gonna have
- 22:24a problem with a tornado.
- 22:28So anyway, I think that's the same thing
- 22:30with bears and other animals,
- 22:31that it's more of a concern based on,
- 22:34and especially now with social media
- 22:36and even more so with AI.
- 22:38There's a lot more animal situations
- 22:41than there really is altogether.
- 22:45I still like the idea of
- 22:46having a 50 caliber handgun
- 22:47with me just to say hello.
- 22:52(laughing) So there's, do you think it's better
- 22:57to have a bright colored tint
- 23:00or a neutral colored tint?
- 23:01I like the neutral style up until the
- 23:05helicopter's looking
- 23:05for me for some reason.
- 23:07Yeah, yeah, I guess, you know,
- 23:09there's theories out
- 23:11there about attracting pests
- 23:14and stuff like that with
- 23:14brighter colors and stuff,
- 23:16but I think it comes down to preference
- 23:18and what you're using it for.
- 23:20There's some people
- 23:21that like the bright colors
- 23:22just so they don't lose their spot
- 23:24and they can see their
- 23:25campsite from a ways away.
- 23:27And there's other ones that
- 23:27like to blend in with nature
- 23:29so we offer a little variety of colors
- 23:32in the tints that we sell.
- 23:34Yep, yep.
- 23:35A friend of mine, I think it was Chris
- 23:38that you had dealt with to get the
- 23:40interview set up here.
- 23:41Chris was telling me
- 23:42that the Gazelle Tints
- 23:43are very well known as quality tints
- 23:46and if you want a good tint,
- 23:47that's what you should get.
- 23:49Yeah, we've done a lot of work
- 23:51and over the past few years,
- 23:53we've loosened up our
- 23:55return policies over,
- 23:57well, it was pretty much
- 23:58first when I started here,
- 24:00we try to take care of
- 24:02our customers best we can.
- 24:05And the thing over the last few years,
- 24:07what we've seen is that our
- 24:10quality rates have gone up,
- 24:11returns have gone down.
- 24:13So I think we're in the sweet spot.
- 24:16That's not to say
- 24:16things weren't happening
- 24:17because the size of these tints,
- 24:19there's still a lot of
- 24:20hand-sowing that goes on
- 24:21and there's things that can happen,
- 24:22but our customer service is right on
- 24:26premise with us here.
- 24:27So if you call in, there's somebody there
- 24:29that's gonna answer and help you out
- 24:30with any issues that you have.
- 24:32This is a good time to
- 24:33mention the website again,
- 24:35gazelletints.com,
- 24:37G-A-Z-E-L-L-E-T-E-N-T-S.com,
- 24:42gazelletints.com.
- 24:44So the, oh yeah, I was
- 24:46gonna ask you earlier,
- 24:47we were talking about putting
- 24:48the tints on top of the Jeep
- 24:50or the vehicle, whatever you're driving.
- 24:52And obviously the bags are waterproof
- 24:54and you don't have to
- 24:55worry about anything,
- 24:57the tint being damaged or
- 24:58getting water in the bag
- 25:00because they're made to survive weather.
- 25:03Yeah, so our bags are seam
- 25:07sealed on the Overline Edition.
- 25:08Our bags are seam sealed.
- 25:09They have a zipper
- 25:10cover to stop any egress
- 25:12into the, in through the zipper.
- 25:14They also have an external stake pouch
- 25:16so you're not putting dirty stakes in
- 25:18with your clean tent. Oh, that's good.
- 25:19So yeah, and like I said,
- 25:21being oversized and stuff like that,
- 25:23they tend to, if you
- 25:25wanna stuff more in there,
- 25:26you've got some room, so.
- 25:28Now I would assume, and
- 25:30not everybody assumes this,
- 25:32especially people that haven't,
- 25:33they like the idea of going outside.
- 25:35They like the idea of having a tent.
- 25:36But the tent is really
- 25:37just the starting point
- 25:38because you really need
- 25:39a lot of support stuff.
- 25:41We were talking about furniture, chairs,
- 25:44the diesel heater if
- 25:46you're in that environment,
- 25:47but maybe a place to use the bathroom
- 25:50because they make standup things.
- 25:52You guys don't have any
- 25:53facilities for that, do you?
- 25:56We do have a privacy tent
- 25:58that is coming out in June.
- 26:02It's gonna be a premium model.
- 26:06It's extra tall, so there's
- 26:09plenty of headroom in there
- 26:10when you're showering.
- 26:11That's extra big, so room for the shower
- 26:15and the bathroom in there.
- 26:16And then the other thing is
- 26:18it's got a rain fly on it,
- 26:19which a lot of them don't.
- 26:21And again, it's got that gap in there.
- 26:22So I don't know how to say it.
- 26:25It smells gonna--
- 26:26Yeah, I think methane is a light gas.
- 26:29So anything, I was gonna ask you
- 26:31if it came with a
- 26:31little pouch for matches.
- 26:35(both laughing)
- 26:36It comes with a lot of bags.
- 26:38Whatever you put in
- 26:38there, that's up to you.
- 26:39Well, that's good.
- 26:40I like that, because that
- 26:41way you could have a washcloth,
- 26:43soap, shampoo, that type of thing.
- 26:45Yeah, exactly.
- 26:46Yeah.
- 26:47That's cool.
- 26:49And I know you can buy
- 26:50these things several places,
- 26:51but if you're like me,
- 26:52it's nice to go to one place.
- 26:55Yeah.
- 26:55One stop shop.
- 26:57Yeah.
- 26:57Yeah, and like I said,
- 27:00we'll be sending out all the
- 27:02details on it here very soon,
- 27:04but it is really well built.
- 27:07I'm very impressed with what our
- 27:09engineers have come up with.
- 27:11It's one of the feature for feature.
- 27:14I don't think there's
- 27:15many out there like it.
- 27:17So are you gonna have a shower system
- 27:21or just a place where
- 27:22you could take the shower?
- 27:23Right now, it's just that there's a lot
- 27:25of systems out there
- 27:26and a lot of really good ones.
- 27:27So we're just
- 27:28providing the shelter for it.
- 27:30Right.
- 27:31And again, this is a pop-up shelter.
- 27:34So it's about a 90 second assembly.
- 27:37So if you have the desire,
- 27:39I think you've probably
- 27:39seen the same things I've seen
- 27:41where there's some house on a mountain
- 27:43and the bathroom has
- 27:44this top to bottom wall.
- 27:47You can sit on the toilet, look out.
- 27:50Your setup's not like that.
- 27:51I mean, a nice gazebo
- 27:53pop-up for your bathroom
- 27:54would be nice.
- 27:55Yeah, well, I don't know.
- 27:56It depends on how comfortable you are.
- 27:58You can probably leave
- 27:59the door open and do.
- 28:00There you go.
- 28:01There you go.
- 28:02I just was thinking
- 28:03about the gazebo aspect
- 28:04because this is kind of smaller
- 28:05and you sit there and
- 28:07have all the windows open
- 28:09for the neighbors.
- 28:10Right.
- 28:13Okay, so as I was saying,
- 28:15you start with a tent,
- 28:16but then you have the other things
- 28:18that you use to support that.
- 28:19So now we've got a bathroom and shower.
- 28:22Not that you can take the shower.
- 28:24There's no shower accessories for that,
- 28:27but something that you can hook one of
- 28:29the showers up to it.
- 28:30And yeah, so a place to
- 28:33stay, a place to sleep,
- 28:34a place to
- 28:35(beep)
- 28:35with other people.
- 28:37And I would assume it would be great
- 28:39to have company over.
- 28:41I think the most fun,
- 28:43and this is certainly true,
- 28:44when you go off road in a Jeep,
- 28:46if you don't want to
- 28:46have other Jeepers with you,
- 28:48it's a safety thing.
- 28:49And also too, it's just
- 28:50fun to share that experience
- 28:52with other people.
- 28:53So yeah, I could see
- 28:55that it would be neat.
- 28:56And also too, and I'll just mention this,
- 28:59everybody's aware of this,
- 29:00but I'll just mention this.
- 29:01The cool thing is
- 29:02talking about your equipment
- 29:04because somebody's gonna have something
- 29:06and they're gonna notice
- 29:07something that you have,
- 29:08like a Zelle tent and go,
- 29:10who made this tent?
- 29:12You know, where'd you
- 29:13get this thing from?
- 29:14So then you have that thing,
- 29:15that little bit of pride
- 29:16that you made a good decision.
- 29:18For sure, yeah.
- 29:20It really is a community.
- 29:21We see people out
- 29:23there traveling in packs,
- 29:25they'll have 10 T4 set
- 29:27up in their campsite.
- 29:30So yeah, it really has
- 29:32become a community out there
- 29:33of gazelles.
- 29:35So just to recap a little bit,
- 29:38you have tents that are
- 29:39really good for general weather,
- 29:41hot weather and stuff,
- 29:42but if you're gonna
- 29:43go really cold weather
- 29:45and what do, oh, I
- 29:46didn't discuss that earlier,
- 29:47for the cold weather tents,
- 29:49what is the coldest
- 29:51that you guys recommend?
- 29:53And I know it depends, but...
- 29:54Yeah, we just launched a
- 29:56line called the Backcountry.
- 29:57And this one did take some cues
- 30:00from what we do with
- 30:01our ice fishing shelters.
- 30:03And so it's got the
- 30:04normal screen windows in it,
- 30:06but those can be either replaced
- 30:08or just covered with vinyl windows,
- 30:10again, to up the R factor.
- 30:13Plus you have the ability to,
- 30:14we've got a stove jack that you can get
- 30:17if you wanna do a wood
- 30:19burning stove inside.
- 30:19And that's like the
- 30:20hole, the insulated hole
- 30:22that you can run the stove exhaust.
- 30:24Yeah, so this one
- 30:25actually runs out the window.
- 30:28So you angle it just under the rain fly
- 30:32and yeah, you can burn
- 30:35wood in there and keep it.
- 30:36It gets really toasty.
- 30:37We've tested that out here.
- 30:39And the weather we get up here,
- 30:41sometimes 20 below or worse,
- 30:44and we've had it out
- 30:45there and it warms up nicely.
- 30:47The other big thing
- 30:48that we do, like I said,
- 30:49and I hate to keep going
- 30:51back to our rain fly design,
- 30:52but the way it works
- 30:53on a cold weather tent,
- 30:55if you get snow or a lot of snow,
- 30:57that gap between the
- 30:59roof and the rain fly
- 31:01doesn't let the rain fly get warm.
- 31:03So it's not gonna melt the snow
- 31:04and cause ice dams on your roof.
- 31:06It allows the snow just to run off
- 31:08because it's cooler
- 31:10than the roof below it.
- 31:13So it's a Friday afternoon,
- 31:15maybe around one or two
- 31:17o'clock in the afternoon.
- 31:18There's a major snow storm coming in
- 31:21and the boss, the CEO sends out an email,
- 31:24"Okay, we need somebody to go out
- 31:26"and test the tent this weekend."
- 31:30(laughs) He would have a ton of on.
- 31:34I was just gonna say that probably
- 31:35wouldn't be too bad.
- 31:36It's not like having
- 31:37that 10 PS report in.
- 31:38No, it is.
- 31:40Yeah, when you look at the crew
- 31:42that we have assembled here,
- 31:43they're all outdoorsmen all year long,
- 31:47whatever the season,
- 31:49whatever the occasion,
- 31:50they're out there in the wild.
- 31:53We're up here in Northern Wisconsin.
- 31:54It's just absolutely
- 31:55beautiful up there in the North woods.
- 31:57So we got a lot of good sites
- 31:59and a lot of good
- 32:00areas to go and explore.
- 32:03So let me ask you this.
- 32:06You're in Wisconsin,
- 32:08you gotta definitely,
- 32:09the guys definitely get cold up there.
- 32:13When you're using the
- 32:14tent in the wintertime,
- 32:17I would assume, damn it,
- 32:20I forgot exactly where I
- 32:21was going with this now.
- 32:23I'm thinking about being in Wisconsin out
- 32:25and actually I'm thinking about,
- 32:27everybody goes on and on about cheese,
- 32:30cheese curds and stuff in Wisconsin.
- 32:32Oh yeah.
- 32:34We're probably about 30 miles
- 32:36from the biggest cheese curd
- 32:38manufacturer in the country.
- 32:41Ellsworth and we were
- 32:42actually in Flagstaff
- 32:43and some guy goes, I got
- 32:45a delicacy from Wisconsin.
- 32:47He goes, Ellsworth cheese curds,
- 32:49I bet you've never heard of them.
- 32:50I go, yeah, they're
- 32:51just down the road from us.
- 32:54(laughing)
- 32:55All right, well, I've lost that one.
- 32:58It was probably the best
- 32:59question I would have ever asked
- 33:01if I could just remember.
- 33:02Probably.
- 33:02This is the problem
- 33:03with paying attention.
- 33:04If you don't pay attention,
- 33:05you can remember what the questions are
- 33:06that you're gonna ask.
- 33:08All right, and I'll
- 33:09remember this before we get done.
- 33:11You know how the kids
- 33:12love the social media.
- 33:14How can people follow you
- 33:15guys along on the social media?
- 33:17Yeah, we've got a
- 33:19Gazelle tents Facebook page.
- 33:20We were on Instagram.
- 33:22And if anybody ever has any questions,
- 33:25we're up all hours of
- 33:27the night answering people.
- 33:29So just feel free to reach out there
- 33:32contact us through our
- 33:33customer service chain
- 33:34at info at gazelle tents.com.
- 33:37And we'd be happy to answer
- 33:39any questions we might have.
- 33:40All right, so we've got viewers
- 33:41that are absolutely
- 33:42in love with the tent,
- 33:44but they'd like to see it and touch it
- 33:46and get a good feel for it before buying.
- 33:50Is there a way?
- 33:51What's the best way for
- 33:52them to look at the tent?
- 33:54Yeah, well, we attend
- 33:56all the Overland Expos.
- 33:58We just got back from
- 33:59SoCal here in March.
- 34:00We're gonna be in Flagstaff in May,
- 34:04Portland in Redmond, Oregon, and June.
- 34:10I think I'm trying to
- 34:11remember all of them.
- 34:12Loveland, Colorado in August.
- 34:14Well, they can probably go to your site
- 34:15and see where you're gonna be, right?
- 34:17Yeah, Harrington, Virginia in October.
- 34:21And but if you, REI carries our tents.
- 34:23So if you're near an REI,
- 34:25just pop in there and take a look.
- 34:27And we're gathering more
- 34:29retailers all the time.
- 34:32Excellent, yeah, it's fun.
- 34:33Do you guys ever go to EJS or SEMA?
- 34:37We haven't, we haven't.
- 34:39We've looked into it,
- 34:39but I run six other divisions
- 34:43in the hunting and camping area.
- 34:45So it, you know, beyond the hunting shows
- 34:48and all that stuff, time
- 34:49is kind of a premium, so.
- 34:52Oh yeah, I can well imagine.
- 34:55So do you guys have other divisions
- 34:58that do other things besides tents
- 34:59or is it just tents for the hunting?
- 35:01Yeah, we've got, we
- 35:02actually have 15 brands
- 35:04in our portfolio. Wow.
- 35:07And anything you can do up here
- 35:08in the North woods of Wisconsin,
- 35:11we pretty much do all the
- 35:14way down to Chicken Pluckers.
- 35:15So you got your hands
- 35:16on all this stuff then.
- 35:17That's gonna be a really interesting job.
- 35:19Oh, it is, it is, yeah, for sure.
- 35:21How many wonderful ideas do you get?
- 35:25And then you have to kind of act like,
- 35:27yeah, yeah, that sounds good.
- 35:29Well, you get into that,
- 35:29kind of like whenever the kid wants
- 35:30something at the store
- 35:31and then you say, yeah, yeah, let's,
- 35:33we'll see, we'll see.
- 35:35To be honest, the way
- 35:37Gizelle really took off
- 35:39was actually just that,
- 35:40listening to what the
- 35:42customers are saying.
- 35:43And we incorporate a lot of
- 35:45those ideas into the products.
- 35:47Now, unfortunately it
- 35:48doesn't happen overnight
- 35:49because we, our engineering group,
- 35:51they try and try everything, test it out,
- 35:54make sure it's perfectly
- 35:57good before it's launched.
- 35:58But a lot of our best
- 36:01ideas come from the people
- 36:03that are actually using it out there.
- 36:04Yeah, absolutely, that's wonderful.
- 36:07All right, well, I think that we've had
- 36:09a really good conversation here.
- 36:10I think a tent is
- 36:11something, a good tent is something
- 36:13that you really wanna start with.
- 36:15And it doesn't sound like
- 36:16this would be a bad tent
- 36:18to start with.
- 36:19And you may stay with the brand
- 36:22and get bigger tents and bigger tents,
- 36:23depending on how much
- 36:24fun you have doing it.
- 36:25The great thing is, is
- 36:27that it doesn't cost you
- 36:28a lot of money, like
- 36:29getting an RV or a pop-up tent
- 36:33that you get a bolt onto your vehicle
- 36:34and you have to take
- 36:35it off for some things
- 36:36and put it back on for other things.
- 36:38So I think everybody
- 36:39ought to have a good tent.
- 36:41You never know when
- 36:42you're gonna have to bug out.
- 36:43(laughs)
- 36:44Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure, yeah.
- 36:47Oh, was COVID a big help for you guys?
- 36:49Because of being cooped
- 36:51up, I could well imagine
- 36:52that getting out and
- 36:53away from the stresses
- 36:57being under lockdown
- 36:58would be a good thing.
- 37:00Yeah, it was very good.
- 37:02It got us well-known in the
- 37:04industry and stuff like that.
- 37:05And the other thing is that our gazebos
- 37:08that we talked about earlier
- 37:09make a great outdoor office.
- 37:11We see people with their
- 37:13whole desk and computers set up
- 37:15in there and just hanging out outside.
- 37:17Do you guys encourage the customers
- 37:20to send in pictures like
- 37:21that, put it up on Instagram?
- 37:23Did you mention Instagram release?
- 37:25Yeah, we always use
- 37:26our customer pictures.
- 37:28In fact, the person who
- 37:29does our content for us,
- 37:32that's how she started out
- 37:33was she sent in a few pictures
- 37:35and I said, "You ever thought about doing
- 37:37this professionally?"
- 37:38And she's just
- 37:39knocked it out of the park.
- 37:40That's neat, that's really cool.
- 37:42Yeah, you never know.
- 37:43Just get out there, share things,
- 37:44and some people might really enjoy it.
- 37:46And you may go from the comfortable life
- 37:49to working the nine to five,
- 37:50but I think working
- 37:51at home on social media
- 37:52is pretty fun.
- 37:54All right, Rob, thank
- 37:55you so much for being here
- 37:56and we'll have to get you back on
- 37:58when you get new products out
- 37:59so we can update
- 38:00everybody on what you got.
- 38:02So what do you guys think
- 38:04about the Gazelle Tents?
- 38:05Have you been over there to
- 38:06gazelletents.com and had a look?
- 38:08Maybe you've gone to, what
- 38:09was it, REI that you said
- 38:10that have these tents?
- 38:13So go have a look and
- 38:14let us know what you think.
- 38:17Thanks again, Rob.
- 38:19Oh, thank you, I appreciate the time.
- 38:21You're my friend, you're my new friend.