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Freddy Peralta still on trade block? Cubs staffer attacks Kyle Tucker, Reds offseason outlook · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Trent is here with us today. Again, we appreciate you
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  Speaker 1: being here.
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  Speaker 2: Trent.
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  Speaker 1: Could to see you. A lot of talk, of course,
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  Speaker 1: about what the Reds are doing with Elie de la Cruz.
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  Speaker 1: I want to know your take on it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you cover this team better than anybody with the athletic.
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  Speaker 1: Are you surprised? I guess that he didn't take the deal,
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  Speaker 1: And on the flip side of that, at least, hey,
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  Speaker 1: the Red's offered, right, that's all they can do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think everybody's nobody's surprised inside because
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  Speaker 3: the Reds have to make that attempt right, and they
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  Speaker 3: also you know, if you're being honest, you don't expect
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  Speaker 3: him to take it because.
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  Speaker 4: This is a guy who could.
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  Speaker 3: Be and I mean a lot of things have to
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  Speaker 3: go right, and this is down the road a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: He could be a billion dollar player, and I just
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  Speaker 3: don't know if you give up on that now. There
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  Speaker 3: are a lot of things that you have to take
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  Speaker 3: in consideration. You know, we talk about the guys the
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  Speaker 3: Ronald Acunya, you know, Bobby wit Junior. You also have
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  Speaker 3: on the other side you have Scott Kanary and guys
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  Speaker 3: like that. So it's not a sure thing. But I
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  Speaker 3: think Ellie and his representation believe in him enough that
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  Speaker 3: it just seems like you're leaving a lot of money
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  Speaker 3: on the table. Not that there's I mean, I would
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  Speaker 3: love to figure out the difference between having two hundred
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  Speaker 3: and fifty million and three hundred and fifty million, but
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  Speaker 3: that's not in the cards for me. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: we got to reh I have to renegotiate my riverfront
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  Speaker 3: territory contract to get anywhere near that.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, that's fair.
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  Speaker 5: I appreciate you putting that, putting that out there, but
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  Speaker 5: where like, let's how can you how can you rank
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  Speaker 5: Ellie in the names that you brought up?
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  Speaker 4: Are you well there's still potential? Yeah? Absolutely?
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  Speaker 3: And those guys you know, was Bobby Wit, Bobby Witt?
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  Speaker 3: Wasn't Bobby Wit when he signed that, he had just
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  Speaker 3: signed it. I remember going to Kansas City in two thousands.
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  Speaker 3: It twenty four Eli's first year or twenty three. I'm
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  Speaker 3: blanking because it's all runs together when you're old, AJ.
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  Speaker 3: I know it's about that you're not as much cratzy.
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  Speaker 3: But so like people going, oh, we're in Kansas City
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  Speaker 3: and they're like, this is what Bobby Whitt was supposed
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  Speaker 3: to be and I was like, this guy's still pretty good,
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  Speaker 3: and then he kind of had that second season. Everybody
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  Speaker 3: has their own timeline, but the potential is just I mean,
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  Speaker 3: the potential there is greater than than anyone, to be honest,
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  Speaker 3: and even if he's just what he is now, if
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  Speaker 3: you just say, oh, all we have is an all
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  Speaker 3: star shortstop, I mean that's pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: By the way.
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  Speaker 6: I know you went to Georgia and it's hard for
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  Speaker 6: you to do math because there is no requirements to
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  Speaker 6: get in there or to graduate from there. But the
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  Speaker 6: difference between two hundred and fifty and three hundred and
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  Speaker 6: fifty million is about one hundred million. So I know
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  Speaker 6: you would like, right, figure that well, but.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have your I don't have your contract, so
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  Speaker 3: like to me, they're both a lot, and they are
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  Speaker 3: a lot a lot in a little a lot, but
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  Speaker 3: in a little lot.
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  Speaker 2: I got told this.
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  Speaker 6: I got told this by an owner one time. It
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  Speaker 6: was I'm like, well, you know, what's the difference between
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  Speaker 6: one point nine billion and two billion? And he looks
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  Speaker 6: at me and goes one hundred million. I'm like, when
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  Speaker 6: you get to that amount, doesn't matter. He's like, absolutely,
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  Speaker 6: So maybe it doesn't matter. I'm never going to see
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  Speaker 6: that money either.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know. I don't know Trump, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: just saying, Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I'll talk to Scott and uh and we'll get working
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  Speaker 3: on your one hundred million difference edition.
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  Speaker 4: Perfect.
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  Speaker 6: What's what's the feeling of the fans in Cincinnati with this?
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  Speaker 6: Because we mentioned they lost on schwerbur and they offered
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  Speaker 6: them three hundred. Now they've come out and said they
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  Speaker 6: offered Elie this contract? Are they What are the Reds
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  Speaker 6: fans feeling and thinking? You know, they just had redsvests
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  Speaker 6: this week and where they at?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 3: You know, like I think a lot of we've about
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  Speaker 3: Ellie since he's since he came up. They're like, Oh,
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  Speaker 3: it's just gonna suck when he was a Dodger as
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  Speaker 3: opposed to holy crap, we got this guy for a while.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's still some trepidation. Some take it as
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  Speaker 3: like defeatists, and some are just like, well, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: we're getting this guy through his age twenty seventh season.
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  Speaker 3: We might be getting the best of him. And I
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  Speaker 3: think there's something to be said for that.
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  Speaker 5: What is the what is the what is the pivot
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  Speaker 5: for the Reds fans in the sense that I think
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  Speaker 5: ag alluded to it. But the money that they had
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  Speaker 5: out there for Schwarmer, the money that they have for Ellie,
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  Speaker 5: does this just all of a sudden go Okay, we're
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  Speaker 5: quiet now, we're not gonna We're not gonna be sorry
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  Speaker 5: everybody else.
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  Speaker 3: I mean a lot of that money, a ton of
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  Speaker 3: the Schwarmer money was going to be deferred. The Ellie
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  Speaker 3: money is future money. And that's hard to explain. You
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  Speaker 3: get a lot of in the SAUC making when you're
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  Speaker 3: talking about this kind of stuff, But it will I
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  Speaker 3: think it does turn fans off. You see a lot
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  Speaker 3: of fans just going, oh, I can't wait for a lockout.
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  Speaker 3: I could wait for a lockout. I don't not want one, because,
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  Speaker 3: uh as much as Jim Bowden and everybody else says
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  Speaker 3: they want a salary cap, I just don't see it.
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  Speaker 3: The MLBPA is actually, you know, has a backbone unlike
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  Speaker 3: some others, and they don't want it, and they're not
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  Speaker 3: going to give up on this, and as as well,
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  Speaker 3: they shouldn't to me. Like you know, these owners who
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  Speaker 3: write these big tecks, they write them because they don't bounce.
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  Speaker 4: They have it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, AJ might want to give somebody three hundred million,
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  Speaker 3: and and if he, if he writes the check, he's
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  Speaker 3: got it.
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  Speaker 4: So it's up to him to do it.
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  Speaker 5: Can the Reds afford the floor? Can they afford to
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  Speaker 5: get up to the floor? Because why don't?
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  Speaker 3: They're at one twenty five? Now, that's the floor is
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  Speaker 3: not going to be more than that. What do you
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  Speaker 3: what do you think the floor would be one hundred?
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  Speaker 5: It would have to be a much much closer, like
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  Speaker 5: if everyone's like, oh man, everybody's you know, look at
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  Speaker 5: the other sports, it's a much closer. It's not going
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  Speaker 5: to be it's not going to be two hundred and
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  Speaker 5: ninety million to one hundred and twenty five.
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  Speaker 4: They can't. They can't do that.
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  Speaker 5: So they have to be able to to me, to me,
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  Speaker 5: there's we're not going to debate the salary capper, no.
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  Speaker 3: Sense I think they would, but they'll be close.
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  Speaker 4: How close?
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  Speaker 5: How sorry we frozen there for a little bit. How
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  Speaker 5: close do you think the Reds think they are to
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  Speaker 5: be to being a consistent playoff team? I know they
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  Speaker 5: made the playoffs last year. The Reds let them, they
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  Speaker 5: gave them their ticket to the I mean, the Mets
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  Speaker 5: gave the Reds their ticket to the playoffs, But.
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  Speaker 4: How close do they think they are? To me?
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  Speaker 5: I feel like the Reds underachieved last year based on
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  Speaker 5: how I feel about this position player lineup. And maybe
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  Speaker 5: it's all potential. But what we just talked about Ellie's
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  Speaker 5: three hundred plus million dollars that he should get is
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  Speaker 5: all potential. So how close do the Rens truly think
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  Speaker 5: they are.
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  Speaker 3: I think they feel like they can compete over the
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  Speaker 3: next couple of years, and what they have to do
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  Speaker 3: is learn from their mistakes. Remember the Reds of the
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  Speaker 3: early twenty ten, ten to twenty thirteen, Well, when they
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  Speaker 3: were doing that, oh you got to go all in
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  Speaker 3: for this window. They gave up in trades like fifty
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  Speaker 3: future war in guys like Cosmani, Grandal Yonder, Alonzo, Mike Leek,
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  Speaker 3: Brad Bachsberger. They gave up a lot to supplement. And
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  Speaker 3: so you will hear all the time people go like, well,
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  Speaker 3: this is their chance, you should go all in. Well,
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  Speaker 3: when you go all in, if you don't win the pot,
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  Speaker 3: you're out. And that happened to them for a good
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  Speaker 3: five year, five six years and that is what I
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  Speaker 3: think would really hurt the team. So you have to
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  Speaker 3: be smart, like I mean the Brewers. Look at what
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  Speaker 3: the Brewers have done. They identify who they need and
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  Speaker 3: what they need. And you know, as much as they
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  Speaker 3: hated to see some guys go, they keep chugging along.
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  Speaker 3: And that's because they do develop and they don't trade
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  Speaker 3: what makes sense to everybody else.
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  Speaker 6: What's the untouchables for the reds? If we're gonna keep
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  Speaker 6: going down this, who are the untouchables? Sal Stewart is
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  Speaker 6: Ellie de la Cruz? And then who's the prosper's supposed
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  Speaker 6: to be on the trade? Remember all we heard all
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  Speaker 6: winter was where did.
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  Speaker 4: You hear it? Where did you hear it?
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  Speaker 2: That me?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't hear it from me? And that's what
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to say, because I've never believed that, and
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  Speaker 3: it just never made sense. I think, you know, of
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  Speaker 3: Chase Burns, maybe untouchable prospect wise. You know, it's funny
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  Speaker 3: like because there's always the public list and the private list.
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  Speaker 3: I think they're much higher on a guy like Hector
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  Speaker 3: Rodriguez than the industry is Alfredo Doo. That's an untouchable
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  Speaker 3: right now. That guy is a beast. He's a catcher
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  Speaker 3: twenty years old, had more strikeout or more walks and strikeouts,
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  Speaker 3: just like and.
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  Speaker 4: They have some guys.
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  Speaker 3: But you always need the depth. And I think where
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  Speaker 3: they have their depth right now is in starting pitching.
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  Speaker 3: And you almost need ten starters these days. And for
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  Speaker 3: a team like the Reds, the only way to get
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  Speaker 3: starting pitching is to develop it or acquire it young.
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  Speaker 3: Because if I'm a free agent pitcher or there's no
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  Speaker 3: way I'm coming here.
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  Speaker 1: Trying to think the Reds. You just mentioned it. To
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  Speaker 1: expand on this a little bit, the Reds the only
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  Speaker 1: way they get good starting pitching is by developing it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like a Freddy Peralta signing for
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  Speaker 1: the Reds could be something that would make sense. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: anybody can sign Freddy Parolta. Now, I mean it's what
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  Speaker 1: a thousand I mean, he's at eight million dollars. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's not something that anybody can afford. I mean, is
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  Speaker 1: that the only way that they're going to get decent
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  Speaker 1: starting pitching is from within.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think they have it right now. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: right now, you look at it and you have a
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  Speaker 3: top of Hunter Green, Nicolodolo, Andrew Abbott, Brady Singer for
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  Speaker 3: one more year, Chase Petty is a good young pitcher,
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  Speaker 3: had his ups and downs, Rhet Louder, Chase Burns, Brandon
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  Speaker 3: Williamson is coming back, Aggie ar is coming back. Both
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  Speaker 3: of those guys from TJ. They have some other guys
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  Speaker 3: in the system they like. I think that that's what
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna do. And it's it's not saying, you know, oh,
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  Speaker 3: we have five starters if we even if we trade
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  Speaker 3: Hunter Green to get whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Five starters.
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  Speaker 3: Like twenty twelve, the Reds used five starters for one
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  Speaker 3: hundred and sixty one games. I don't expect that again,
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  Speaker 3: and nobody does. Nobody should. Like they used twelve last year,
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  Speaker 3: you almost need like nine, and you need four or
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  Speaker 3: five of those guys to have options. And so that
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  Speaker 3: means the young guys that you don't trade away.
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  Speaker 1: Right, you don't need to trade for him. Obviously the
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  Speaker 1: starting staff is there. What is in your opinion, Trent,
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  Speaker 1: the biggest need for the Reds right now?
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  Speaker 3: They just need somebody in the lineup, whether internally it comes,
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  Speaker 3: and that's a hell of a gamble when you're gambling
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  Speaker 3: on guys growing and getting better. They need a guy
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  Speaker 3: who besides Ellie de la Cruz that people game plan
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  Speaker 3: for right They don't have that guy right now. Could
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  Speaker 3: it be South Stuart? I think so. I mean, this
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  Speaker 3: guy can hit. Could it be Matt McClain. I'm a
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  Speaker 3: huge believer in Matt McLain. He came off the shoulder
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  Speaker 3: injury he had that that whole year that he was out,
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  Speaker 3: and then that next year those shoulders.
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  Speaker 4: We've seen it.
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  Speaker 3: Time and time again that it takes a while. I
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  Speaker 3: think he's a really good ballplayer. Noelvi Marte watched noelvi
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  Speaker 3: Marte now that he knows he's just gonna be in
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  Speaker 3: the outfield and could just hit. They have guys who
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  Speaker 3: can do it. But you would feel a lot better
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  Speaker 3: if you had a Kyle Schwarber. Now would you feel
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  Speaker 3: better if you had a Kyle Schwarber four years out
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  Speaker 3: in the line That is taking up half your payroll.
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  Speaker 3: That's the big question. So you know, maybe they didn't
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  Speaker 3: there and one of these guys develops, But that's that's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of finger crossing, and finger
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  Speaker 3: crossing isn't quite a strategy.
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  Speaker 4: I've tried it.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't doesn't work much.
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  Speaker 5: Were you able to get a pulse at Reds vest
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  Speaker 5: of Reds fans? Were you able to get a pulse
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  Speaker 5: of the sense that they're all happy?
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  Speaker 4: Oh wow, that's so amazing.
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  Speaker 5: We made this, like Ellie move like compared to other years,
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  Speaker 5: because don't forget, Like Reds fans might need to not
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  Speaker 5: forget they were in the playoffs last year.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and I think some are forgetting that. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but the team that beat them, they were pretty good, right,
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  Speaker 3: they lost the Dodgs, you know, Yeah, they lost to
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  Speaker 3: the Dodgers. You know who else lost to the Dodgers? Everybody? So,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I think they're fan bases. You know, it's
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  Speaker 3: not a monolith. I think there's a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: who are frustrated that they didn't get the big bat.
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  Speaker 3: Then there's other ones who are just cautiously optimistic and
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  Speaker 3: they see like, okay, you know what, we had kind
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  Speaker 3: of that step back in twenty four, but if we
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  Speaker 3: could really capitalize on what we saw in twenty three,
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  Speaker 3: And it comes to fruition. I think there's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of guarded optimism for the relative short term, but then
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  Speaker 3: the economics, the game, everything, there's pessimism for that because well,
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  Speaker 3: baseball smart markets, and you look at it, and not
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  Speaker 3: only are the Reds of the small market, their primary
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  Speaker 3: owner is I mean like basically, if you're looking at
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  Speaker 3: his payroll, it's like me and AJ. You know, the
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  Speaker 3: rest of the baseball are really rich like AJ, and
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  Speaker 3: then the Reds are like me. They're like, yeah, we're
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  Speaker 3: in the game, but come on, he is Like if
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  Speaker 3: you look at like the estimated net worth, he's by
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  Speaker 3: far the poorest owner. I would love to be poor
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  Speaker 3: like that. But you know, it's all relative, you know,
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  Speaker 3: if you I don't need to explain that to Ja,
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  Speaker 3: because you know.
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  Speaker 2: Trent good classes. Hey, Trent.
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  Speaker 6: I once stayed at his hotel that he used to
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  Speaker 6: have out in Arizona, the sanctuary for spring training. So
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  Speaker 6: I contributed to the Reds payroll. So the Reds fan
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  Speaker 6: should thank me. I stayed there for a whole spring training.
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  Speaker 3: It's a hell of a place.
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  Speaker 4: He sold it.
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  Speaker 6: I know it was, Yeah, it was a actually met
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  Speaker 6: him one night in the restaurant in there, so, but yeah,
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  Speaker 6: it was a hell of a restaurant.
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 4: You're right, so Thankstuary. Go for it. Yes, great place.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna go there.
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  Speaker 6: We're gonna we're gonna get a foul territory to pony
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  Speaker 6: up for Lana and I to stay there.
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  Speaker 2: When we go out to spring training.
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  Speaker 3: Sounds good.
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  Speaker 1: Seems like you need some side hustles, Trent uh Income somehow.
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  Speaker 1: Great to be with you. As always, we look forward
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  Speaker 1: to reading all your stuff on the Athletic and of
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: course you can catch Trent on our Foul Territory network
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  Speaker 1: on the Riverfront Territory Heat and Danny Graves will be
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  Speaker 1: right back with hot corner. All right, guys, talking a
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  Speaker 1: lot about the Reds today. Of course, the Reds regular
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  Speaker 1: season win total is over under eighty three and a
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  Speaker 1: half at minus one ten. Aj I will start with you,
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  Speaker 1: are we taking the over or the under on Cincinnati
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  Speaker 1: Red Legs.
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  Speaker 6: I want to take the over so bad on this,
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: YE really want to take the over so much on this,
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: But then I look back and I'm like, gosh, everyone
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: was picking them to win the division and do this
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: and do that last year and it didn't happen. Yes,
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: they still made the playoffs, but I'm still gonna I'm
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: still riding with Tito. I'm still riding with the Reds.
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: I think they're gonna get They're gonna be an eighty
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: four to eighty five win team, So I'll take the
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: over to bet. But they've just broke in my heart
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: the last couple of years. You know, it's like, oh,
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: so I'm going over, what about you?
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: Uk over?
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: I think I think the Brewers. I think there's just
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: more wins to be had in the National League Central.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: I get it.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: I think the Cubs are better. I think they're gonna
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: win more games than they did, But I don't think
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: the Brewers are gonna win ninety seven. Ninety seven's a lot,
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: and I think I will keep saying it until all
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: these dudes are gone. But I think this position player
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: corps will take a step forward as a whole. And
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: I think they're starting rotation and you know, the back
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: into their bullpen's pretty legit too. But I think their
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: starting rotation has been solidified here really in the last
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: year and a half two years, with obviously Hunter Green
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: being healthy. That gives them a guy who is a
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: one plus. I'm not gonna put them on an A
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: status yet, but A one plus.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: All right, So you mentioned that you don't think they're
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: gonna get ninety seven wins. Is anybody I mean, is
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: the parody in baseball such now, guys that there's maybe
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: no team AJ that gets ninety seven wins this year?
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Parody? What parody?
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: I thought the Dodgers are gonna win one hundred and
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: sixty two games, Alana, No, I don't.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think they can win one hundred and sixty two.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I mean that.
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: Physic'd be some kind of record if they did it.
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: It'd be an awesome record if they could do But
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: I mean it'd be fun to be on that team
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: and win every game.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: That would be kind of cool.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: But no, ninety seven.
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: I mean, there's the Dodgers would be the team you
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: look at and say they could win ninety seven if
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: everything lines up and it goes right for him. But again,
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: they don't play for the regular seas, and so they're
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: not pushing guys. If there's a small injury, they're like,
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: take the ten days. We'll see in ten days.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: That's the whole thing for me, is just that I
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: don't know if if there's a team that could do
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: it as the Dodgers. Other than that, I don't know
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: who else there could get to ninety seven Toronto, but
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: their division is so tough Toronto, there's not a lot
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: of free wins.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: In that Division's that's the other part is it used
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: to be like an AL Central NL Central. Could one
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: of those teams get there just like the Brewers did?
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: But look at who the Brewers had in their division
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: last year. Cardinals weren't trying. They're still not trying. The
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: Pirates are much improved this year. The Cubs are much improved,
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: and some would say they even kind of underachieved last year.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: So and the Reds. Obviously, I'm buying high on the Reds.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: So like Nlcentral, that's out AL Central.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: You look at it.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: The Tigers are good, the Twin you know, there's a
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: lot of parody mediocrity in that division. But besides, as
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: the Twins like, are they tanking? The White Sox want
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: to be better? Are they in the middle of tanking mode? No,
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: they're just kind of in the middle of we're going
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: to try harder mode. So to me, that's where you
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: could see a team maybe winning ninety seven. But I'm
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: saying that just because just because the Brewers did it
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: last year, and I remember being on the Brewers when
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: we won a bunch of games and it was like,
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: to win that division. You do win, you do have
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: a chance to win more because you get to play
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: those cellar dwellers that are in the central.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Both Aj and Eric take any over on the Reds
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: regular season wins of eighty three and a half. Going
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: back to the Reds for a hot second, here Todd
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Frasier doing a great job at the Reds Fest at
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: BETMGM poker tournament over the weekend. To take a look
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: at some of the footage from the events. Look at this, guys. So, Eric,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: are you pissed that you weren't able to get to
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: crush the competition? Did you not you to not participate
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: in this?
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: I'm assuming I was not invited. But that's okay.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: That's okay, because the biggest thing I'm pissed about, I'm
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: super I'm super proud of Todd. I mean, fourteenth place,
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: that's awesome. But to me, I'm pissed because every time
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: we have an event, Todd shows up for like six
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: minutes and then he's got to go to like the cheerleading,
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: jump shot batting practice competition that his kids all have
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: at the same place, Like one time, Todd, I want
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: to see you do this fourteenth place at one of
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: the events that AJ kills, like, come on, come hang
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: out with the boys for the whole time, not just
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: look at my home run derby trophy.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: So it's a little jealous there, AJ. So Todd was there,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: obviously was there, Scott Scott Braun was there. So fourteenth
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: place finished for Todd out of how many people fifteen? Like,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: what are we talking about here?
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Well, there was a bunch. I think it was like five.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I wasn't there.
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: I was I was in the Bahamas all weekend paying attention.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: What is fourteenth place get you? How much did Todd win?
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Where's he taking us to dinner?
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Five hundred bucks? Thousand bucks? I don't know.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: I don't know how much it was.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: Well, he wanted, he wanted a few years ago, but
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: he didn't get to keep the cash. So this year
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: he paid his own entry fee and he kept the cash.
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: So I don't know what he wont We'll find out
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: when he comes on the show Crazy Friday. Tune in,
• 22:26
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• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Producer said, or that we're going to Sizzler. We're going
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: to Sizzler.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: We're going to see all right, So that a good movie.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, it was.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: It was a phenomenal, phenomenal movie. So good job Todd.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: We are incredibly proud of you. All right, guys, So
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I just want to read this real quick before we
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: get to uh stuff coming up after Shake it Up.
• 22:50
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• 23:06
  Speaker 1: problem or concern called one eight hundred gambler. So here's
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: the deal. The Peralta situation with the Milwaukee Brewers. Now
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: the Brewers apparently guys are continuing to field offers on
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: ace pitcher Freddy Peralta, a free agent after twenty twenty six.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: The Yanks, the Mets, the Dodgers, Giants, and Braves, among
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: many many interested teams. Peralta an eight million dollar salary
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: means anyone can afford him, including the Brewers, but an
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: extension is tougher for small markets. AJ does Freddy Peralta
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: start the season with the Milwaukee Brewers or do you
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: see him with another team?
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: I think he starts here with the Brewers.
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: I think he starts here with the Brewers, and they
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: see how it goes and if he's tradeable, if they're
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: out of it or something, which the Brewers never seem
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: to be, then they trade him. I think this is
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: closer to the Willia Damas situation from a couple years ago,
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: where they actually hold.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: On to them and play the year out and then
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: let him leave as a free agent. Because I don't know,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I think it's a little late now.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: I mean it can happen, but we're almost a spring
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: training We're only a couple weeks from spring training now.
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: This is the kind of move that usually happens earlier
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: in the offseason to set other free agent moves in plays.
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: So I think if he gets traded now, it'll happen
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: in the middle.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Of the season.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Eric he's twenty nine. He's one of only eleven pitchers
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: to make at least thirty starts in each of the
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: last three seasons, so the one thing we know about
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Freddy Peralta is he posts right, he's a gamer. He's
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: out there every fifth day. He typically takes the ball
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: when he is supposed to. Is he a brewer next year?
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Man? I guess.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: I mean the question is I'm not even gonna go
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: with I'm just gonna go with my gut.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: Yes, I think he's a brewer.
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: Ultimately, I don't think anybody is going to pay what
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: it takes to get him, because it's going to be
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: more than what Corbyn Burns commanded. Corbyn Burns was making
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: I think twice as much. I think he was making
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: sixteen million or eighteen million when he was traded to
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: the Orioles. At the same time, Devin Williams may actually
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: have been making more than eight million dollars. I'm not
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: even sure, but I just think that I think the
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: value is or the ask is going to be too high.
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: So I don't think it's going to get done. And
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: you talk about that stat you said about you know
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: how many people have made thirty starts in the last
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: four years. You want to know one of those people
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: that did that. Dylan Cees going and look up going
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: and look up all of his stats and see where
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: he was going into his free agent year and compare
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: him to Freddy Peralta. If you're wondering how much it's
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: going to take to either extend Freddy Peralta or if
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: the Orioles trade for him, to re sign him in
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: the next season, Like, it's just just compare those two
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: guys and see which one you would want and you
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: have an idea of what it's going to take to
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: extend a guy like that if the team of trades
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: for him wants to extend him.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just one of eleven guys to make at least
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: thirty starts over the course of the last three seasons.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Aj the Brewers, though, they have a history of trading
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: their top prospects one year before free agency. We saw
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: it with Corbyn Burns, Devin Williams. Although Peralta his salary
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: is not crazy, right, I mean eight million, it's a
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: viable option for the three time defending NL Central champions.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Do they continue with the trend and try to move
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: him or do you think he's, as we mentioned, back
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: next year. But why do you think that's kind of
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: been their their their page of the playbook is kind
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: of getting rid of these guys before they hit free agency.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: They don't want to.
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: Because they they they try to reload right Alta before
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: they lose the players. Now, like I said, this one,
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: to me seems more like the Willia Damas situation where
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: they let him play the whole year out and then
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: they let him walk. Freddy's great in the clubhouse. Everybody
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: loves Freddy. He's always smiling. There's a lot of things
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: I love about Freddy Peralta, and any team that does
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: get him, if it's not the Brewers, would be lucky.
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: That's why I don't think it's going to happen. I
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: think there's too many moving pieces that and too many
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: of the free agent guys are now gone right now.
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: If there's a team out there, I'll use the Mets
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: as an example that think they need one more starting pitcher.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Zach Gallen. Ain't it maybe you make.
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: This trade for Freddie Peralta because he's still cheap and
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: the Mets are a team that can get him there
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: for a year, figure out if they like him, and
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: then possibly resign them down the road. So I just
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: believe that unless it's something big like that, he's going
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: to be in Milwaukee when the year starts and possibly
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: maybe get traded, but the Brewers are never out of it,
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: so maybe they keep them all year and let them
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: walk like they did with the Damas.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: And that's just it, right, the Brewers are never at it.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: There's no reason to say that they wouldn't be able
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: to win the NL Central again. So what would the
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: benefits to the Brewers eric to get rid of Peralta?
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's more of an addition than
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: a subtraction.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: I mean, obviously they have to thread that window of
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: wanting to continue to win. And the part that I
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: really like about what the Brewers have done is they
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: take less lottery tickets when they're doing these trades. They
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: go after teams lower levels, you know, longer, longer arbitration
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: or controllable players that they feel like they can find
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: value in. Joey Ortiz when they traded for him, third
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: baseman played a lot of shortstop. Does that mean he
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: was the best shortstop in the game. Absolutely not, But
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: they had somebody they could plug right in at third base.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: They got dl Hall. That's where you know a lot
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: of high upside hasn't been able to stay healthy. I
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: think the Brewers if they trade Freddie p I have
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: a hard time believing it's not going to be for
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: somebody who they look at and they say, yes, we
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: see he strikes out a lot if he's a hitter,
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: but he's gonna hit some dangers for us, and we
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: need that slug, you know. I think about like a
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: Spencer Jones from the Yankees. Do they feel like he
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: plugs in to a team that steals a lot of bases?
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: Everybody talks about oh Man out thirty three percent of
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: the time. He's also a twenty plus stolen base kind
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: of guy. I think he actually had thirty plus in
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: the minor leagues. I'd have to look at that. But
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: you know, do they find that value and say, Okay,
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: we can figure out who's going to start game one
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: for us in the playoffs? Like they got big WU,
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: but you don't know what you're gonna get. Still coming
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: off of that major shoulder surgery and looked great last
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: year but then got hurt and wasn't able to pitch
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: in the playoffs.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: So does this hurt their depth? You know?
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: Do they just want to keep making the playoffs or
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: do they want to be able to make the playoffs
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: and win a World Series, and I think if that's
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: the case, I don't think they can do it without
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: Freddy P. Can they make the playoffs without always getting
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: rid of Josh Hater, then Devin Williams, then then Corbyn
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: Burns now Freddy P. Like, are they going to continue
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: that and still not win the World Series? At some
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: point you're like, we got to go all in, even
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: if it means a step back next year to win
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: the World Series, because that's what Brewers fans really.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Of course, with some folks say, you know, of course,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: at the beginning of every season, the goal is to
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: win the World Series. I mean, every club all thirty
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: is going to say that. Do they really mean it? Though?
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: That's another thing entirely. I mean, I think that the
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Brewers will have an opportunity to get to the postseason,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: as they've done pretty much every year in the last
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: ten years. But you keep trading your best players away,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to do that all right. Back
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: to Kyle Tucker, obviously known most of the time for
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: his time with the Houston Astros, now a member of
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Dodgers. Guys, I want to know what
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: you make of this. An anonymous which is interesting. An
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: anonymous Cubs staffer on Kyle Tucker's departure, and I quote,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I watched him in the clubhouse. He checks his phone
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: more than he checks the scouting report. He's got all
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the talent in the world, but the motor it's not there.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: He's got his bag, and good for him. But if
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: you're asking me if i'd want him in a fox
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: hole in game seven, I'd take a rookie who's hungry
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: over a sixty million dollar guy who looks bored. Now again,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: an anonymous staffer, which I don't know, say what you
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: will about that. That could be anybody. It could be bullshit,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: it could be whatever. I don't think it's fair to
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: have already written the narrative of Kyle Tucker of how
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: he's going to be in Los Angeles. He's obviously an
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: incredibly good player. And the reason I say that is
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: because I do have this from a very good source,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: somebody that knows Kyle Tucker incredibly well. And I asked
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: him about the narrative and whether or not you know
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: that's fair. He said, good guy, not a bad makeup dude,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: good family, just a very low motor. Because he will
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: thrive in LA because he will not be or he
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: will be in the shadows. Just not obsessed with the
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: big leagues. Not everybody is a raw, raw guy. Eric
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: will start with you on this. In terms of Kyle Tucker,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I asked somebody else that knows him intimately. You know
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: what he's like and the personality. Okay, maybe warning Trek Dirt,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: that's okay. You don't have to be a cheerleader. You
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: just have to be a good teammate. So what do
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: you make of this? Anonymous staffer saying that, And I
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: would imagine that any team that has Kyle Tucker on
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: it is a better team.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: For it one hundred percent. I mean that player is
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: a very good player. Was Anthony.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: Everyone's going to bring up Anthony Rendon? How did that
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: work out for the Angels. That's where the teams have
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: to make their they have to make their investigations. They
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: have to figure that out before they give two hundred
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: forty dollars or however much Anthony Wrendon got. I'm not
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: saying he's on that level. I'm saying he has a
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: low heart rate. Maybe that is helpful for him as
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: a player. And you know what, Scatting reports aren't for everybody.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: You don't have to read scattering reports to be really good,
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: That's okay. Like some guys who don't read scattered reports
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: have the memory of an elephant. I remember two years
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: ago he threw this to me, and you know why
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: that is because they don't have a lot of scattered
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: reports jumbled up in his head. Am I afraid that
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: he's not going to play out his four years with
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: the Dodgers?
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: Not at all. Zero. I am not afraid of that
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: at all.
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: What I'm afraid of is a freaking clubhouse guy who
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: is with the Cubs saying, oh, yeah, this is what
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: I saw. Say your name, say your name say because
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: the fact that now all these clubhouse guys, all these
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: players are going to go into Chicago, they're going to
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: go into spring training, they're going to go into they're
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: going to go into the season, and be like, what
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: was that the guy?
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: Was he the one?
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: This that is a to me, that's a sacred area
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: that if you're a clubhouse guy and you're judging me
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: based on the one season I played in Chicago, I
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: have a tough time you saying something about somebody. I
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: really do now should somebody call a clubhouse guy and
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: be like, Hey, what kind of tipper is he? What
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: kind of not what kind of preparation? And does he do?
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: How is he prepared? Did he follow him to the
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: video room? Did he follow him to the cage. I
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: know there's a lot of guys who will go to
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: the cage and be like, hey, who are we facing today?
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: And I'm sitting there.
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: Like, oh my gosh, I just freaking I just freaking
• 34:15
  Speaker 8: watched every one of their relievers. I watched three of
• 34:18
  Speaker 8: the last four starts of the starter we're facing, and
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: I'm hitting ninth. I might get one or two at
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: bats against him. And one of the stars goes, who
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: are we facing today? What's he got? And did the
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: clubhouse guy see that? Does he know what makes his
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: motor run?
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: Actually?
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: Or was he in the clubhouse and like I want
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: to relax, I might see what's on my phone. That's okay,
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: that's okay. It doesn't make him not a good player,
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: no doubt.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, aj, Not everyone's built the same way, not
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: everyone preps the same way. Not everybody is incentivized or
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: motivated the same way.
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: Agreed, Listen, I wasn't a big scouting report guy at all.
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: I didn't watch a lot of video. I just kind
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: of was like, I didn't watch every reliever before they
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: came into pitch. I'm like, all right, they're bringing in
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: a reliever and left you let me guess he has
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: a slider. He's gonna throw me at some point.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm facing a right handed starter that day.
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: Who is it? Okay, well, they have one pitch that
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: I might need to be worried about. I might be like, okay,
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: when does he throw it? So I don't swing at it?
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: But I wasn't a huge scouting report. What to get
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: your mind mumbled and jumbled with all this stuff, And
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: then you get up there and you're like, oh, I'm frozen.
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: I can't swing because he was supposed to throw me
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: the one one change up, but instead he threw me
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: a fastball right down the middle. Like just react. And
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: if that's the way Kyle Tucker goes about it, great,
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: But he hasn't affected him because you know what he
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: when he's healthy, he puts up numbers, he plays, he's
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: great in the outfield. He'll do he steals bases for you, Like,
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: what do you want? I mean and by the way,
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: one thing I hate more Thannathy forget anonymous. Put your
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: name on it. Okay, anonymous person in the Cubs organization,
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: because you know what you want to look You want
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: to look cool, and you want to look cool. Excuse
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: me by saying something about somebody who just left your
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: organization for the Dodgers.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, you want to look.
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: Cool, you want to be like, we didn't want him anyways,
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: because you know he looked at his phone too much.
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: Have you been in a clubhouse lately? Have you watched
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: an NFL playoff game? Have you watched an NBA game?
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: Have you watched a hockey game?
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Any sport?
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: When they show the locker room view, every single guy
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: is on their phone, every one of them. So every
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: guy is on their phone too much. Like, come on, like,
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: put your name on it. And if you're whoever, whatever
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: position you are in the organization, if you felt this way,
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: then why don't you say it before he signed? Because
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: if you were to resigned with the Cubs, guess what
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: you would have been like, he's a great guy.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Da da da da da. He's great because he doesn't
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: look at a lot of scouting reports. Save it. Whoever
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: said this save it.
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: Hey, if a club came out was like, hey, he's
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: not a good tipper, then I'd be like, okay, okay,
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: you know what. That's that's fine, Like this guy didn't
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: give me a good tip, you're mad about that. And
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: the other part was the end of his com was
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: the end of the comment where he said I'd rather
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: I'd rather have a rookie any day. That might be
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: one of the more tired statements in baseball. The guy,
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: you know, the guy who's like, I'll take nine of
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: these players and I'll win. No, No, you're just gonna
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: have a bunch of guys who are gonna have a
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: dirty uniform at the end of the day and the
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: end of the season. They're gonna do nice. They're gonna
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: be nice. They're not gonna be a good team. When
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: you go to the big leagues, you have a small,
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: finite window to win baseball games. For some people's career,
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: it's a year. For AJ's career, it's nineteen years. You
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: want to win every single year. You want the best
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: players out there. You do not want a rookie who
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: is not better than Kyle Tucker just because he's.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Ready to go give me the baseball.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna run through a wall. You know I can
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: run through a wall and do like two forty Like
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: I tried my best. I was a two zero nine hitter.
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: Nobody I read all the scating reports. I was not
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: on my phone because I didn't feel like I could
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: do those things to be able to play the little
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: bit that I played in the big leagues. AJ Prazinski
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: was and still is a better baseball player than I am.
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: Kyle Tucker is still better than any rookie that is
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: getting called up this year. I would have a tough
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: time believing that when he goes to the Dodgers this year,
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: or if he would have come back to the Cubs,
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: that a rookie is going to have a better season
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: than he will. And so I have that to me,
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: that is a hard that's a hard thing to hear
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: at the big league level. Do you want guys on
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: your team that play hard, work hard, do everything that can? Absolutely,
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: But Kyle Tucker's still better than them.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: And that's okay.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I mean enough for nothing. If you're the Los Angeles Dodgers,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: or if you're if you're any team and you're about
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: to give a guy a four year, two hundred and
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: forty million dollars deal, and you're gonna pay him six
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Don't you think they've done some
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: fact checking about some character analysis and uh have done
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: anything to think, you know what, is he gonna fit well?
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: And the Dodgers don't need Kyle Tucker. The Dodgers wanted
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker because it makes them better. But if the
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Dodgers didn't get Kyle Tucker, they're still gonna be fine.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: So it's just ridiculous to me this narrative surrounding him.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Obviously he's a coveted player. He doesn't have to be.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Not everybody has the personality of a jazz Chisholm junior
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: that wants to be in the spotlight, that wants to
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: you know, that's an animated guy that goes about things
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: that way right, And.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: Not every not every move that the Dodgers make is gold.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: They have signed free agents that are.
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: At Canfordo Conforido last year didn't work out, didn't work
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: out right, But that's fine.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: They don't all work I mean, but.
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: Anything that just pisses me off is the anonymous don't
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: don't don't don't say anonymous.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Don't be anyou don't be anonymous.
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: Okay, if you got something to say about a guy,
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: just say it and then figure it out afterwards. If
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: he wants to fight you, then you fight. But if
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: he doesn't, and maybe then someone can come and defend him.
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: Notice nobody went to Kyle Tucker and asked him how
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: he felt about this anonymous source.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Why didn't someone go to Kyle Tucker and ask him
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: how he feels?
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: Because then you don't get a story, and then you
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: don't get the clicks, and then you don't get us
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: talking about it on Falter