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Mega Edition: Ian Maxwell Had Some Very Interesting Comments About Epstein's Death (5/30/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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Speaker 1: This morning, we're gonna dive right in, folks, and we're
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gonna stick to the topic of Gilaine Maxwell, her legal team,
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and now her brother coming to the forefront trying to
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gaslight us and tell us about how bad her conditions
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are in prison. Now, we have touched on all of
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this stuff previously, right, We've talked about how her conditions
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in prison are certainly much better than most and the
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fact that she has all of these ailments that she's
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talking about is part and parcel for being in a
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stressed environment. If she did not want to go through
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all of this, she should not have hung out with
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Jeffrey Epstein. She should not have engaged in the behavior
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that she's alleged to have engaged in. And now when
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it's time to pay the piper, you want to cry
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and care about the conditions of your jail cell. What
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about all of these girls that you were alleged to abuse,
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groom and provide for Jeffrey Epstein to abuse. Should nobody
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care about that? Should we all just forget about that
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and worry that you're not getting the lettuce wrap sandwiches
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that you're used to eating, or that you can't go
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to one of your gallas. I mean, really, there are
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actual people in the prisons of the United States of
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America who are actually innocent, who are not being treated
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anywhere nearly as good as Gielan Maxwell. And that's just
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the facts of the situation. You want to talk about
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not being treated well in jail, try ending up there
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with no money, Try ending up there without one of
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these high powered attorneys. Go get in trouble and then
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use a public defender and see how great your life
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is in prison. Pretty sure you won't have a laptop.
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Pretty sure you won't have your own shower. Pretty sure
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you won't have TV every day. Pretty sure you won't
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have all of these things that Gelaane Maxwell has that
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her family and her legal team is crying about. These
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are the things that people in prison wish they had.
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But her, her brother, and her legal team have the
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audacity to try and gaslight you and make you think
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that what's going on in her incarceration is this other
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worldly bout of abuse and folks, that just is not reality.
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This article is from the Daily Mail headline Gilainne Maxwell's
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brother Ian says he recognizes the setting of infamous picture
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of her with Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts and Prince Andrew,
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and does not rule out the royal being called as
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a witness for her defense. Well, that would be some
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must watch TV. Huh, we're talking insanely crazy. Imagine Prince
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Andrew gets called up there as a witness in the
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case for her defense. I mean, holy smokes, that would
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be something. But I have to believe that the Joe
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Exotic of the Winsor family would find a way to
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wiggle off of that line as well. So if Ian
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and her legal team are counting on the Joe Exotic
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of the Winsor family to step up to the plate
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and save the old bipedal serpent, well they're gonna be
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waiting a long time. This article was authored by Tim Stickings.
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Gilaine Maxwell's brother has said he recognizes this setting of
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the infamous photo showing her with Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein.
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Accuser Virginia Roberts, The Duke of York, has faced scrutiny
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over the notorious picture of him with his arm around
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Miss Roberts, who says she was kept as a sex
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slave by Jeffrey Epstein and trafficked to have sex with Andrew.
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A claim, which the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family
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has always denied. Oh well, then that's the end of it, right.
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We should definitely listen to him. I mean, he's proven
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throughout history and throughout time that he is a very
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honorable man, that he does what he says he's going
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to do. He would never hang out with undesirables, So
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we should just believe everything Andrew has to say. Meanwhile,
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back in reality, he's not provided one iota of evidence
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to prove his innocence. Meanwhile, Virginia has provided receipts, she's
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provided photographs, operating statements. So again I ask you, Joe
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Exotic of the Windsor family, when are you going to
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do the honorable thing and speak with the authorities. Asked
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whether the photo was taken at Maxwell's London home, her
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brother Ian Maxwell told BBC's Radio four Today program, I
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do recognize that setting. Oh well thanks, that's that's great
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that you recognize the setting. No, shit, you recognize the setting.
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It's at your sister's house, you know, the place where
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Andrew abused Virginia. According to her, yeah, that place. Not
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shocked that you recognize it. But he added that I
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don't know anything about the photograph other than I've seen
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it's been published. Well okay, but I don't really think
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that means anything one way or the other. Who who's
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asserting that you know anything about the photograph. The fact
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that you come out and say that you recognize the setting, well,
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that's all fine, And well we know that that's at
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Gilaane's house. We know that that picture was taken there.
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And the fact that Andrew and Gulaine and others still
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question the legitimacy of that picture is mind blowing to me.
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You would think that a failed strategy such as that
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would be thrown out the window, But when you're drowning
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in the middle of the ocean, you will clutch on
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anything floating by to try and stay afloat. Andrew says
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he has no recollection of the photo being taken and
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says it might have been faked, claiming in his twenty
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nineteen interview that he never went upstairs at Maxwell's home
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and would have been wearing different clothes to go out
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in London. Well, I mean, you know you gotta wear
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your different kit, right, You have a different kit to
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go out, You have a kit to wear to meet
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other dignitaries. What kit do you wear when you're hanging
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out with your pedophile friends, Joe Exotic of the Windsor family.
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He added that he had never seen Epstein wielding a camera,
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making him an unlikely candidate to have taken the photo,
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and said that as a member of the royal family,
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he would not put his arm around other people when
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posing for pictures with them. Yeah, no, just that never happens.
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Right again, he's sinking himself with his own words. So
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what he's saying is he never puts his arm around
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people when he meets them, right with, because you know
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the strangers, whatever it may be. Okay, So what made
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Virginia different? Why'd you put your arm around Virginia? Then,
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Joe Exotic of the Windsor Family. What made you feel
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so comfortable doing that? Joe Exotic of the Windsor Family. Again,
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I'm certainly not a seasoned prosecutor. I'm lucky I can
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tie my shoes and pair my socks, folks, But if
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I can punch holes in this idiot story, you have
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to think at the SDNY is salivating at the chops
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waiting to get a hold of this clown. Mister Maxwell
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did not rule out that Andrew could be called to
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speak in Gilayne's defense when she goes on trial in July,
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adding that he assumes she still considers the duke a friend.
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Oh you assume, huh? Have you not talked to her?
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Have you not asked her? Now? I assume that they're
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still friends too. As far as old Joe Exotic of
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the Windsor Family coming out in her defense at the trial,
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I really don't know how they would be able to
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pull that one off. Imagine the Joe Exotic of the
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Windsor Family up there answering questions as a defense witness,
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and then cross examination shows up and Alison Moe and
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the other prosecutors begin to hammer this guy. He thought
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the Emily Maitlis interview was rough. Let me tell you what,
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Joe Exotic of the Windsor Family meet the United States government.
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So they if they called him as a witness and
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he came willingly as a witness, that would be an
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epic blunder on his part, in my opinion, an epic blunder.
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The fifty nine year old co conspirator and fellow child
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abuser has been in custody since last July, when She
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was charged with helping Epstein to groom underage girls, which
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she denies. Giving a rare interview, Mister Maxwell lobbied for
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her release from pre trial custody today, as he claims
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she was losing her hair and struggling with her eyesight
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and conditions that are degrading an amount to torture. Eh, sorry,
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not degrading. They don't amount to torture. And she's getting old.
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That's what happens when you get old. You lose your hair,
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you lose your eyesight. Now, don't get me wrong, Are
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these the greatest conditions you could possibly find yourself in.
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Absolutely not. I'll never sit here and make pretend that
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jail's fun or being incarcerated's cool. There's nothing cool about
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any of this. And as far as Gilaine Maxwell's concerned,
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as much as I think that the prison system needs reform,
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as much as I think that things go on that
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should not be going on within the prison system, with
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that said, those are the rules. That's the lay of
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the land. That's the way it is for everybody. So
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Gilaine Maxwell, her brother, her lawyers, all of these people
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that now want to talk about conditions in jail, that
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now want to talk about how how rough it is
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to be in prison. Well, guess what, it didn't just
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start becoming rough when Gelaine showed up. This is jail.
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This is what you have to look forward to if
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you abuse children. This is what you have to look
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forward to if you're covorting with Jeffrey Epstein and working
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as a co conspirator and fellow boss. That's the message
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that needs to be sent here. This is the future
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that awaits you. Ian Maxwell, reclusive tycoon's son who was
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cleared of fraud. Ian Maxwell resurfaced for a rare interview
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today after three decades of staying out of the spotlight
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following the death and disgrace of his tycoon father, Robert Maxwell.
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So this is a little blurb within the article. You know,
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the Daily News will do I mean the Daily Mail
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will do that. Sometimes they'll have one of these little
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blurbs within the article that's in the color blue or whatever,
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and it gives you a little bit of backstory on
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the topic at hand. So that's what we're doing here
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within the article, reading through that little blurb that they got.
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He and Gilaine are two of the nine children of
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the late media baron who died at sea in nineteen
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ninety one after falling from a yacht called the Lady Galaine.
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After his death, merged that he had looted millions from
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the Mirror Group's pension funds as his empire crumbled. Ian
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Maxwell and another brother, Kevin Maxwell, were put on trial
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in connection with the scandal, but were quitted at the
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Old Bailey in nineteen ninety six. The trial coincided with
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the breakup of Ian's first marriage to former US college
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basketball star Laura Plum. Ian has kept a low profile
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since then, with the BBC describing today's interview as his
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first to a broadcaster for thirty years. Well, yeah, look,
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when you get off of with what they got off with,
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I don't blame them for not speaking to the media
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and now coming out this could open up all sorts
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of old wounds, all sorts of old questions about the
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Maxwell family. Now. I know that they were acquitted for
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their alleged role within their father's looting of the pensions,
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but you would think that speaking to the media after
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all of these years is going to open up a
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whole bunch of other questions. Thought to have lived in
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Hackney in East London in recent years, he appeared in
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person in a BBC studio to lobby for his sister's release.
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But the brothers have also built up business interests outside
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the UK in property, telecoms and energy, including in Russia.
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Oh well, what do you know, including in Russia? Huh?
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How many oligarchs are you involved with? How much dark,
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dirty ass money from mafioso and Russia are you involved with? Again,
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I have no evidence of that, but when we're talking
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about the Maxwells, I think these are all valid questions.
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We're not talking about the beavers here. Okay, we're not
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talking about a wholesome family. Uh. Oh, Shuck's dad, How
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is your day to day? No, we're not talking about
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anything like that. We're talking about a pit of vipers literally.
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In twenty eighteen, they set up a think tank called
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adding Jihata's Terrorism following a series of attacks in Britain.
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Ian married his second wife, Tara Dudley Smith, in nineteen
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ninety nine, but that relationship also later ended. Oh well,
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what do you know? Surprising to me that these people
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can't keep a relationship. Surprising to me that they can't
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be with somebody else long term. Look, you can only
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hide your private face for so long, and that length
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of time shortens dramatically when you're in a serious relationship
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with somebody. So it doesn't shock me that all of
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these people have been through eight or nine different marriages,
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all right, hyperbole, not eight or nine, you know what
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I mean, though, And it doesn't shock me that they
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have a bunch of ex partners. Miss Maxwell said his
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sister remained resolute but was being served brown water, an
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edible food, and monitored around the clock and grow tesque
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conditions in Brooklyn, which he said, we're not the way
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that a democratic country should run its prisons. Yeah, where
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was all of this yap clap trap before? Where was
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everybody in Gilaine Maxwell's circle, Jeffrey Epstein, her family, all
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of these hotshot lawyers, where were all of Where were
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they all before? Before Gilain Maxwell was arrested talking about
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how bad the criminal system is, talking about how bad
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prison is. They were nowhere to be found, folks. And
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now that they're getting a little taste of what poor
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people have been going through for h ever, they don't
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like what's on the menu. Well, newsflash, equal justice under
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the law means when you get busted, you get treated
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like every single one of us would. So I don't
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want to hear any more crying and moaning about the
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conditions that Gilaine Maxwell finds herself in. You want fed
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up conditions, come to Las Vegas and I'll take you
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to our skid row and you can tell me who
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has it worse. They also appointed to Maxwell's vast wealth,
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but her brother said she was willing to put her
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money under the supervision of US authorities if it helps
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secure bail. We don't know how much money she has,
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that's the problem people. Oh, well, her tax return says
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she has this amount. Do you really think that these
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people are putting down all of the money in their
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possession on their tax returns? What do you think those
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llces are for? What do you think those offshore companies
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are for? What do you think all of that money
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laundering is for. If you don't think there's a war
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chest that these people have, If you don't think these
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people are prepared to go on the lamb or hide
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if they have to, or use money that they haven't
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talked about yet or told the government about yet, you're wrong.
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There is no length that these people will not go
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to to keep themself out of trouble folks, no length whatsoever.
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Had she wanted to run away, she could have run
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away at any point in the year after Epstein died,
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mister Maxwell said, But she remained permanently in the United States. Yeah,
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in my opinion, because of her hubris. She thought she
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was never going to get nailed for this. She thought
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the NPA protected her and the dirt that she had
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on all the other folks would be enough of a
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shield to keep her out of the spotlight, to keep
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her from getting in any trouble, to keep her from
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having to face the music. It's worked for so long previously,
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why wouldn't it work this time. Well, this time her
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calculations were off. She thought that she was going to
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be able to slide through, and if she was, she'd
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get wind if something was coming down. Well she didn't,
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and now she has to deal with it. And that's
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just the way it goes. All the crying, all the complaining,
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all the finger pointing in the world is not going
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to change the fact that coming up in July, Gallainne
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Maxwell will be tried for her crimes. This isn't somebody
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who's seeking to flee. She has attachments here, She has
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family here. She has an entire life built by her
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for thirty years here. So what does that mean. Nobody's
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ever ever fled before when they've had a life built.
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I mean, how many people have won on the lamb, folks.
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How many people with a lot less means than Gilainne
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Maxwell have got lost in the sauce A lot of folks.
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So to act like she's not a flight risk, to
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act like her citizenship, her connections, her money means nothing
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is laughable at best. Her lawyers had offered twenty two
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and a half million in bail posted by the defendant
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and her husband, but the judge rejected the second bell
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package in December. No conditions of release can reasonably assure
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the defendant's appearance at future proceedings. Federal Judge Alison Nathan wrote,
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Gilaine has been in now for nearly two hundred and
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fifty days in counting, she is in effective isolation in
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a cell that measures six feet by nine feet and
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which includes a concrete bed and a toilet. Mister Maxwell
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said that again, that is what happens when you go
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to jail. All right, there's no I don't understand what
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this guy's point is. If this was the only sell
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or condition a part of the jail where conditions were bad.
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You might have a valid argument, but this is just
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how it goes. This is jail, Okay. It's not supposed
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to be fun. It's not supposed to be enjoyable. You're
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supposed to go there to be punished. You know, like
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when you were a kid and you get punished by
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your parents and they'd send you to your room, they
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take your video games away, your TV, all of that jazz.
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I know, the first time I was ever really grounded,
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I was like in seventh grade. I had everything taken
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out of my room and my dad brought in this
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big ass box of books. And up to that point,
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I hadn't read anything besides stuff for scol So he
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brings in this big ass box of books, drops it
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on my floor and says, look, you're grounded for a month.
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You better find something to do with your time. So
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you know what I did, after all of my carrying
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on and crying and my histrionics, I dug into that
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box of books and found a book called Jurassic Park.
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And that was one of the first books I ever read.
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And the reason I read that was I was in
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prison basically. So my point is, Gilay Maxwell, nobody cares. Okay,
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find a book, do something with your time, because the
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fact of the matter is this, you are staying there
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until your trial, and then once your trial comes and
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you're convicted, well, the place you go next you're not
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gonna like that very much at all. Either. There is
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no natural light. She is under twenty four hour, around
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the clock surveillance with ten cameras, including one that moves
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and tracks her movements. That is her existence. The water
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that is provided through the prison is brown, and the
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food that she's given is very highly microwaved and basically inedible. Inedible.
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She is resolute, she's strong in her spirit and undaunted,
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but obviously this is very very wearing physically. And the
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food thing cracks me up too. She has more money
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than God. Why isn't she buying stuff from the canteen.
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She could buy all kinds of stuff from the canteen.
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Maybe she should have watched some of those prison shows
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before she went to jail. Maybe she should have had
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some friends who went to prison that could have taught
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her how to make a grilled cheese in your jail cell.
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But that's what happens when you're just a smarmy ass.
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Everything in your mouth, silver spooner. You don't know anybody
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like that. You ain't built for this life, and when
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you end up in jail, it becomes, oh, woe is me? Well,
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guess what? See this right here, that's me playing the
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world's smallest violin. Nobody cares. Gilaine. She's a fifty nine
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year old woman, and we understand that she's losing her hair,
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and she's also having trouble with her eyesight and her
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ability to concentrate because this is a tremendous pressure to
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be under. Yeah, guess what. That's what happens when you
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have stress. You lose hair, you get old, you lose
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your eyesight. That's what happens. She's gonna be sixty. You
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pretty much told us what's going on in the statement
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of saying she's sixty, So you mean to tell me,
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Hold on, this is breaking news here, folks. You mean
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to tell me that a sixty year old woman who
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is under tremendous pressure, under a tremendous stress, is losing
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her eyesight in her hair. Holy cow, what's next? Water
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is wet? Give me a break? Asked whether the conditions
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were not necessary to prevent her from harming herself like Epstein.
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Mister Maxwell said his sister has never been a suicide risk.
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Neither was Epstein until he was Okay, so please spare me.
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Say the shoe is on the other foot now, and
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they let Elaine go and have the run of the
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prison in and do whatever she wants, hang out in
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general population, and then something happens to her. What then, Oh,
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the government let her get killed. Oh the government was
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in on it. So how about we alleviate all of that,
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cut that shit off at the pass and make sure
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that she has surveyed, I mean surveilled properly. And that's
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exactly what they're doing. Guess what, after she gets convicted
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and she's in prison, and she's in a little jail cell,
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There'll be no more cameras on her, There'll be no
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more searches. She'll be able to fall into her routine,
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she'll be able to hang out with her CELLI, and
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she'll be able to have all the yard time that
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she and you want her to have. Because I hope,
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beyond hope, after her conviction that all of you have
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this much vigor for her going into a new Year.
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There are daily evaluations of her. She has shown no
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indication that that is her intention. She is being completely overmanaged,
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he said, But he added, I'm worried about her health
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and her ability to concentrate and to mount her defense.
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No human beings should have to go through what she's
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been through. Well, guess what, that's the way the system
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set up. And you know who set that system up there,
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mister ian, I'll tell you who set that system up.
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People just like you, my friend, you and your sister
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and Jeffrey Epstein. You're the ones, people just like you
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who have had this system put on the books so
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that you had loopholes so that only people like us,
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me and the audience, people that you would consider poor
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have to suffer. Right. Well, she was on the other
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foot for once. And guess what, I do not care,
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all right, Get at me when you want to talk
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about the whole system being fixed, Get at me when
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you want everybody to have a fair shake. Until then,
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stop winging, stop crying, and stop complaining about your rich
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jazz sister. Nobody cares. It's really degrading. And in terms
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of the deprivation of sleep, this is not the way
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that a democratic country should be running its prison system.
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It's grotesque and in that respect, it amounts to torture.
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Now you know what torture is. I'll tell you what
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torture is. Okay, mister Maxwell, I'll tell you what that is.
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When you have a fifteen year old girl crying in
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a bazillionaire's house in his kitchen because your sister and
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Jeffrey Epstein allegedly took her passport away and kept her
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on an island against her will, that's torture, Okay. That's pain. That,
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my friend, is what fear is. So we have another
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one of those little blue blurbs in this article, and
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it says hellhole Brooklyn jail compared to a third world prison.
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The Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, where Guillaine Maxwell is
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being held, has been described as a hellhole by a
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former warden and compared to a third world country by
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a US judge. Well, what'd you think you were going to?
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Club fed right out of the gate. Cameron Lindsay, a
26:02
former warden at the MDC, described life in the jail
26:06
as a crushing experience, especially for someone who is used
26:09
to the high life. Oh spare me this bullshit. Spare
26:13
me this bullshit. So basically what he's saying is if
26:15
you're poor and you ain't got no dough, eh, you'll
26:18
be able to adapt these year because you're life shitty
26:20
anyway and it's not worth anything. That's how these people
26:23
feel about us, and I'm tired of it, folks. And
26:26
when I say us and I say poor people, again,
26:28
I'm not talking about indigent people. I'm not talking about
26:31
people making thirty grand a year. I'm talking about anyone
26:34
who is not in their club. That is all of
26:36
us you. And if you think you're part of a
26:39
part of their club, you better think again. You go
26:44
from living a life like Maxwell to all of a
26:46
sudden being strip search to having people look into your
26:49
body cavities. He said, Well again, I'm not sitting here
26:54
saying I think that the justice system is good or
26:57
the way the prison system is managed is good. It's not.
26:59
It's it's garbage. And usually I'd be on the side
27:03
of the people saying we need to fix these conditions.
27:06
But when it comes to Maxwell, this shit is so
27:08
hypocritical and it so misses the mark. Where was she
27:11
when she had all of this money and she was
27:13
out of jail, working on prison reform. If she cared
27:15
so much, where's Ian Maxwell been working Ian on prison reform?
27:20
If he cares so much, so miss me with the BS.
27:26
A New York judge once said she avoids sending women
27:29
to the prison because the conditions are similar to some
27:32
third world country. The prison, with a capacity of sixteen
27:37
hundred men and women, has had its share of famous residents,
27:41
including singer R Kelly and farbar bro Martin Schrelly, but
27:46
it has had more than its share of problems as well.
27:50
In two thousand and one, following the nine to eleven
27:52
attacks on New York, investigators found that guards had been
27:55
carrying out a campaign of harassment against Muslim prisoners, who
27:59
were slammed face first into walls until they would die.
28:03
So again, where was Maxwell then? Where was Ian Maxwell then?
28:07
And that's my point, folks. See, I'll never sit here
28:09
and act like I think it's a good thing. When
28:12
the conditions in jail are shitty, they should not be
28:15
not in this country. We should be abhorred by that. Now.
28:20
It shouldn't be club fed by any means. But people
28:22
should be treated with dignity, all right. People should be
28:26
treated with dignity, and even the most disgusting scum baggish
28:29
amongst us should be put into a system where their
28:36
living conditions aren't disgusting. But that said, when people like
28:42
Elaine Maxwell or these other rich assholes get a little
28:45
taste and then all of a sudden, they're these warriors
28:48
that want reform in prison, I don't. I hate it.
28:51
It makes me sick. Where were you when you were
28:53
popping all them bottles? Where were you when you were
28:56
eating all those fantastic seven thousand dollars meals? As poor
29:00
people were way worse off than you are for a
29:04
bag of weed, So please miss me with the bullshit.
29:11
A probe was also carried out into guards accused of
29:14
beating two inmates between two thousand and two and two
29:17
thousand and six. In twenty eighteen, two former lieutenants and
29:21
a guard were jail for repeated rapes and sexual assaults
29:24
on female inmates, who make up about three percent of inmates.
29:29
One woman, a Dominican. A Dominican prisoner in jail on
29:32
a drugs charge recalled being raped at least four times
29:35
over five months while on night cleaning duty. And you
29:38
think Elaine Maxwell has it bad? Huh, you think she
29:41
has it bad? This Dominican lady's in there for drugs,
29:44
bro okay drugs, and she's getting She's raped at least
29:50
four times over five months while on cleaning duty. But
29:53
Elaine Maxwell has it bad? Right? Where were all of
29:56
you when this was happening to this lady? Where was
29:59
all the outcry? Then? My message has been clear, and
30:05
my message has been consistent. The Department of Justice shit show,
30:09
Bureau of Prisons shit show. It all needs to be reformed.
30:14
But guess what, I don't want to hear shit from
30:17
people like Gilane Maxwell about it, okay, because before she
30:22
had her toes in this water, she didn't give one
30:25
damn about any of this. More recently, an electrical panel
30:31
exploded after weeks of malfunctioning, plunging the jail into darkness
30:35
and cutting off the heat. Inmates told The New York
30:37
Times that they were left locked in their cells for
30:40
twenty three hours a day in almost total darkness without
30:43
heat after the problem first started. And again, look, that's
30:47
bs that should not happen in any prison in this country.
30:50
We need to make sure that all systems are go
30:54
within these prisons, and we should be worried about rehabilitation
30:59
inside of these prisons. But that's a conversation for another day.
31:06
Mister Maxwell also slammed prosecutors for allegedly failing to hand
31:09
over details of the three accusers who are the subject
31:13
of the case. Now, remember the prosecution is holding their
31:16
cards close to the vest, and I think I have
31:19
a sneaking suspicion that the reason is because more obviously
31:23
more chargers are coming, and they don't want to tip
31:25
anybody else to their hand, So they're going to wait
31:28
till the very end before this trial starts, and then
31:32
it's going to be released. That is the hypothesis that
31:36
I'm working under. Again, I don't have any concrete evidence
31:41
to back that up, but it certainly seems to be
31:43
the way we're going. His sister is pleaded not guilty
31:49
to helping Epstein recruit and groom three underage girls for
31:52
sex in the mid nineteen nineties, and not guilty to
31:55
perjury for denying involvement. She also faces civil litigation from
31:59
Ems's accusers, twenty of whom are represented by US lawyer
32:03
Gloria Allred. Oh, good old Gloria Alright, huh, give me
32:07
a break with her as well, another person who should
32:11
be as far away from this case as possible. Now,
32:14
I get it right. People want to get that they
32:16
need to have a lawyer. And you know, folks here
32:18
Gloria Alread's name and they're like, oh shit, all right, cool.
32:21
But the people who follow this kind of thing, I just, man,
32:25
I don't know. There's no way personally that I would
32:28
have Gloria Alred involved with me with anything. Also speaking
32:33
to Radio four on Wednesday, Alread rejected Maxwell's complaints, saying
32:37
it would be very upsetting to the survivors if she
32:39
was bailed. A cell is not a palace. A cell
32:43
is not a wealthy estate with all the things she's
32:46
used to in it, she said, adding that Bell should
32:48
be out of the question. The court has determined that
32:51
she is a flight risk, and that is a main
32:53
reason why Bell was denied. I am not convinced at
32:56
this point that anything is changed that she is no
32:59
longer a flight risk, and I think she needs to
33:02
stay where she is in custody. She could prepare for
33:05
trial there, she can meet with her attorneys, and I
33:08
understand that she has access to information that she could
33:11
read an order to be prepared for trial now again,
33:14
not a fan of Gloria alread, but even a broken clock, right, folks,
33:18
right twice a day, and Gloria already is right about this.
33:22
She doesn't need to be free to mount the defense.
33:25
If that was the case, then nobody should ever be
33:27
in jail as they're waiting for trial, right, What makes
33:29
her so special? Asked whether he wished he had intervened
33:37
to end his sister's relationship with Epstein before his disgrace,
33:41
mister Maxwell said, I wish she'd never met the man, obviously,
33:45
But we don't live on the same continent. We don't
33:47
have the same social life, we don't have the same friends.
33:50
I'm not in the business of talking to my sister
33:52
about her private life. Oh that's convenient, That's super convenient.
33:57
But you know she's innocent. Huh. You haven't talked to
33:59
her about our life, but you know she's innocent. Sure,
34:02
Ian Maxwell, Sure, buddy. I wonder what you stand to
34:06
lose in this case. What sort of dirt does your
34:08
sister have on you, mister Maxwell. Questioning about whether Prince
34:14
Andrew could be called as a defense witness, mister Maxwell said,
34:18
I can't answer that. I just don't know, but asked
34:21
if she still considers Andrew a friend, he said, I
34:24
don't know. I would assume that she does. Yes. Can
34:27
you imagine if the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family
34:30
was called as a witness and prosecution had a chance
34:34
to cross examine this guy. Oh my god, let me
34:38
tell you, folks, I'm gonna be there for the trial.
34:39
So I really hope that this happens, because this is
34:43
I can't miss TV Prince Andrew getting trotted out as
34:46
a witness. Now again, I give that like a zero zero, zero,
34:50
zero point one percent chance of happening, But boy, that
34:53
would be something. Andrew acknowledged in his BBC Newsnight interview
34:58
in twenty nineteen that he socialized with Maxwell and Epstein
35:02
over a number of years until Epstein's conviction in two
35:06
thousand and eight. After Epstein was released from jail, Andrew
35:10
again went to see him in New York in twenty ten,
35:13
what he now claims was a visit intended to end
35:16
their relationship. Yeah, because that's what the Prince of England does.
35:19
He hops out a plane, flies for six hours and
35:22
goes and breaks up with his bestie. The child molester
35:25
Jeffrey Epstein. Uh what, how about if it was me,
35:32
I'd be flying over there and punching Jeffrey Epstein's square
35:34
in the mouth. You get me in this kind of trouble,
35:37
bro grab him right by the shirt, punch square in
35:39
the mouth, right there in the middle of Central Park.
35:42
I mean, are you kidding me? Right now? Fly over
35:44
there to break up with him. Epstein had pleaded guilty
35:51
in two thousand and eight to soliciting prostitution from a
35:54
minor a minor can't be a prostitute, and served a
35:58
short prison sentence in Florida under a plea deal which
36:02
is now widely regarded as too lenient. Widely regarded, how
36:06
about universally panned as bullshit? Can we just call it
36:09
what it is? Please? The Prince also questioned over the
36:14
notorious photograph, responding that he had absolutely no memory of
36:18
that photograph ever being taken. Asked by Emily Maitliss whether
36:22
he thought the picture was faked, he replied, from the
36:25
investigations that we've done, you can't prove whether or not
36:28
that photograph is faked or not, because it is a
36:30
photograph of a photograph of a photograph. We've already talked
36:34
about the original photograph and the Kiwi photographer who looked
36:39
at it and confirmed it. The FBI also looked at
36:42
it and confirmed it. So please stop with the photo nonsense.
36:47
We've done past that. Okay, the photo is legit. The
36:50
photo is real. But he cast doubt on his authenticity
36:56
by saying he's never been upstairs at Maxwell's home because
37:00
the dining room and everything was on the ground floor.
37:02
Oh well, that explains it. So you never took a tour. Huh.
37:05
You never went to Gielane's house and she was never like, oh,
37:08
my buddy, Prince Andrew, let us go on the grand
37:11
toll of my bell Drave townhouse. Sure that never happened,
37:15
mister bean, looking ass He added that the clothes he
37:20
was wearing in the picture were his traveling clothes if
37:23
he was going abroad, rather than what he would wear
37:26
out for a night in London, and asked whether Epstein
37:29
might have taken the photo. Andrew said that I've never
37:31
seen Epstein with a camera in my entire life. Wait,
37:35
I thought you didn't hang out with Epstein that much.
37:36
What do you mean your entire life? You see, folks,
37:40
these stories are so full of holes that it's not
37:43
even funny. And if we're picking them out and we're
37:46
punching through them, can you imagine what Miss Allison Moe
37:49
was going to do? In twenty nineteen, Epstein was arrested
37:56
on New Sex trafficking charges and kill allegedly in a
38:02
Manhattan jail in August that year. While awaiting trial, Maxwell
38:06
subsequently went to ground, and her whereabouts were a mystery
38:09
for nearly a year after Epstein's death, until she was
38:12
arrested in New Hampshire last July. She is being held
38:16
at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn and faces up
38:19
to thirty five years in prison if convicted. Gelaane and
38:23
Ian Maxwell are two of the nine children of the
38:26
late British publishing tycoon Robert Maxwell, who died at sea
38:30
in nineteen ninety one. After his body was found floating
38:33
in the Atlantic Ocean. An inquest found he died from
38:36
a heart attack combined with accidental drowning. Oh yeah, I'm
38:40
sure that's exactly what happened. Ian Maxwell and another brother, Robert,
38:45
were later accused of fraud relating to the collapse of
38:49
the Maxwell Empire, but were found not guilty. Oh I'm shocked.
38:55
I am shocked that these rich guys were found not
38:57
guilty because that never happens since they have kept a
39:01
low profile with the BBC, describing today's interview with Ian
39:05
Maxwell as his first to a broadcaster for thirty years.
39:10
So it took his sister getting arrested and being held
39:15
in prison to get this smarmy soob out from underneath
39:18
his rock. I can only imagine what else is going
39:24
to turn up as the trial nears. If you'd like
39:29
to contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapuci
39:31
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39:37
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39:46
links that go with this episode can be found in
39:49
the description box. What's up everyone, and Welcome back to
39:53
the Epstein Chronicles. It seems at this point anybody you
39:59
talked to has an opinion about what happened to Jeffrey
40:02
Epstein in that jail cell. And to tell you the truth,
40:06
I don't think anyone's in a position to tell anybody
40:09
else that they're wrong until we have some sort of
40:12
definitive proof about what happened in that jail. Cell I'm
40:16
willing to believe anything at this point, well, anything besides
40:20
the official narrative that the government has tried to spoon
40:24
feed us. And when you look at all of the
40:27
facts from the day that Jeffrey Epstein died and how
40:31
it was handled in the aftermath by the facility, by
40:35
the medical examiner, the coroner, and everybody else involved, none
40:40
of it makes any sense. And still after all of
40:43
these years, we have no answers besides Bill Barr telling
40:47
all of us that we need to trust them. And
40:50
like I said before, unless you're Aaron Rodgers and you're
40:53
the quarterback of my football team, I don't want to
40:56
hear any of that oh you gotta trust me stuff
40:58
from known scoundrel like Bill Barr. I mean, does anybody
41:02
trust this guy, no matter what your political sway is.
41:07
I don't think anybody has anything good to say about
41:11
Bill Barr, and he's earned all of it. The guy's
41:14
an absolute idiot filled with hubris, and another one of
41:18
these narcissists, one of these unelected bureaucrats that think that
41:24
they know better than everybody else and that everybody else
41:28
is too stupid to understand what they understand. So in
41:32
his mind, he can't understand for a second why any
41:35
of us wouldn't believe the all powerful Bill Darth Barr
41:39
when he tells us that everything was on the up
41:41
and up when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein's death. But
41:45
neither you or I are willing to give him that
41:48
kind of trust. So the federal government needs to come
41:52
correct and they need to be transparent about what happened
41:56
in that jail cell. And if it was Jeffrey Epstein
41:59
committing suicide, then let's see the proof. If it was
42:03
something else, let's know about that as well. But avoiding
42:07
being transparent after three years is not really going to
42:11
get things moving in the right direction. Time and time again,
42:15
you hear people from like the FBI or Congress or
42:19
the Senate talk about how trust is being eroded in
42:22
the institutions, and then they want to blame that on
42:25
pundits or people that are trying to get clicks for
42:29
their website. And while some of that is true, some
42:31
of that does play a part, the real problem is
42:34
the institutions themselves are not doing the right thing. They're
42:39
the ones that are damaging their reputation nobody else. And
42:43
that's because a lot of these institutions have become politicized.
42:47
Whether it's one side or the other, it doesn't matter.
42:50
What happens is that erodes the trust in the public.
42:53
When people feel like you have an ax to grind
42:56
and you're the institution of the FBI, well that's not
42:59
going to work out well for anyone, and especially it's
43:02
not gonna work out for society. So if they want
43:06
to alleviate that and they want to fight back against misinformation,
43:10
like they always say, then they'd be more transparent, But
43:14
they won't even do it in a case such as this.
43:17
I'm not even talking about being transparent about national security secrets.
43:22
I'm talking about airing out all of the secrets from
43:25
some scumbag child molester who's already dead. So what's the
43:30
hold up, Why aren't you releasing this information? And why
43:34
hasn't the Inspector General's report been put out yet? And
43:39
piggybacking on that, Glainne Maxwell's brother, Well, he's come out
43:43
in a new interview and he says that he believes
43:47
that Jeffrey Epstein was murdered. Now, look, I'm not in
43:50
the business of agreeing with Glaine Maxwell's family, especially when
43:56
we're talking about well anything but Ian Maxwell's not wrong
43:59
here to try and get more answers. There's a lot
44:03
on the table. But for me, I think that if
44:06
anyone would have any information about these people in power
44:10
that are pulling the strings, pulling down on the levers
44:14
and causing the rest of us chaos, it would be
44:16
Gleane Maxwell. Right, Well, she's sitting in that jail cell.
44:20
Has she sang a song for the government, not that
44:22
we know of. So if Glene Maxwell wants to protect
44:27
herself and they truly believe that Epstein was clipped, don't
44:31
you think that singing a song for the government, signing
44:33
a three to zero two and proffering up would be
44:36
the way to go. She didn't do any of that,
44:39
and that's a question that nobody has asked I in
44:41
Maxwell when they interviewed them. I would think that if
44:45
Glen Maxwell had something to offer up, she would have
44:47
offered it up a long time ago. Because now, even
44:51
if she does offer something up, it's gonna be corrupted.
44:55
She's already a felon and whatever information she gives up
44:58
will easily be challenged as somebody who is being self serving. Right,
45:03
She's already a convicted felon, a known liar. Why should
45:06
a jury believe her. So Glene Maxwell has certainly painted
45:10
herself in a corner if she wanted to use some
45:12
of that information that she says she has to her benefit,
45:17
and I thought that during her trial we would see
45:19
more of that. But for whatever reason, Glainne Maxwell went
45:23
down with the shit, and I've always said that she
45:26
ended up becoming useless to her handlers. After all of
45:30
this was kicked into motion once Epstein was arrested for
45:33
the second time and they did the burn trying to
45:36
get rid of all of the evidence connecting Epstein to
45:39
whoever his handlers were. Well, Maxwell was burned at that
45:42
point as well, and she had outlived her usefulness. But
45:46
I think that there was already way too much craziness
45:49
around Epstein getting whacked for them to even attempt something
45:53
like that with Glen Maxwell. So at this point, Glenne Maxwell,
45:57
even with any information, is not going to be that
46:01
useful of an informant. And unfortunately that's what happens if
46:05
you don't proffer up before you get convicted. But today
46:09
we have an article from a local station, KRN four,
46:14
and this station reached out to Ian Maxwell and they
46:18
got an interview with them. So let's dive into this
46:22
article and let's see what author Vicky Liviacis has for
46:28
us headline. Glean Maxwell's brother believes Jeffrey Epstein was murdered,
46:34
convicted sex trafficker, one time British socialite and former girlfriend
46:39
of disgraced financier pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Wait, you mean fellow scumbag,
46:45
fellow child abuser and bipuedle serpent, Right, that's what you
46:48
mean when you're talking about Glen Maxwell. Glenn Maxwell is
46:53
currently serving a twenty year sentence in a low security prison.
46:57
Maxwell sixty one is now appealing her high profile case
47:02
and good luck with that. I mean, she has a
47:05
few things to bite her teeth into as far as Scotti,
47:08
David Goes and juror fifty, but anything more than that,
47:12
I just don't see how they think they're going to
47:15
get over the hump, because it looks like a serious
47:18
uphill battle. Ian Maxwell, Glen Maxwell's brother, spoke to KRN
47:24
four's Vicky Leviacis from London about where things stand in
47:28
the appeal process. Gallainne Maxwell was at the center of
47:32
an international sex scandal involving Epstein. She wishes she had
47:37
never met jeff Epstein, and because the havoc that relationship
47:41
has caused, not just Glaine, but really everybody that came
47:45
in touch with them, said Ian Maxwell. What Ian Maxwell
47:48
leaves out, though, is that all of these people they
47:51
chose to hang out with Epstein, They chose to covort
47:54
with him because it was beneficial to them, So they
47:57
chose to look the other way while these girls, in
47:59
these women were being abused. Maxwell is serving a twenty
48:05
year bid at a Tallahassee federal prison for her role
48:08
in sex trafficking underage victims. In her recently filed appeal,
48:12
she says she did not receive a fair trial. Basically
48:16
it was a stitch up from after Jeffrey Epstein died
48:20
news government custody when Bill Barr was Attorney General, said
48:24
Ian Maxwell. And look, I'm not in the business of
48:26
agreeing with Ian Maxwell, but Bill Barr is an absolute lout,
48:31
a good for nothing soob and in fact, I'm sure
48:35
that scuzbag has committed several crimes throughout his career. So
48:39
someone should do a full look at Bill Barr. The
48:43
billionaire financier pedophile, was found hung in his jail cell
48:46
in an apparent suicide. Ian Maxwell, however, questioned the official account,
48:52
And I wouldn't say hung really right. He had the
48:55
bed sheets that were cut up hung off the post
48:58
and he just leaned forward into it. So if you
49:00
want to call that a hanging, I guess, But to me,
49:03
it looks more like choking yourself out. The only person
49:07
to actually take the fall is Jeff Epstein, and he's dead,
49:11
of course, said Ian Maxwell. We don't really know the
49:14
extent of what happened that night there. His own family
49:17
thinks he was murdered. My sister thinks he was murdered.
49:20
According to her brother, Gallainne, Maxwell believes she was blamed
49:24
for Epstein's crimes to satisfy public outrage. Ian Maxwell said
49:29
that his sister has acknowledged the victim's suffering and has
49:33
expressed considerable empathy for them. Oh yeah, and I'm the
49:36
King of Siam. Maxwell's appeals claim, among other things, that
49:42
a juror failed to disclose he was a victim of
49:45
child abuse prior to being on the jury for her case.
49:48
Despite reports of a Black Book in secret videotapes. Ian
49:52
Maxwell said, if it were true, they would have been
49:55
released by now. The Black Books already out there, You dumb, dumb,
49:58
When do you mean it would have been release by now.
50:00
It's already out there, and not only the Black Book,
50:03
but the Son of the Black Book, the Black Book
50:06
Part two. As far as the tapes, well, you and
50:09
I both know that Darren Endyke and Richard Kahn both
50:12
went into those houses and took whatever they took, and
50:16
we also know that Epstein was tipped off before he
50:18
was arrested. When the police got there, there was no computers,
50:22
there was no tapes because everything was taken and stashed away,
50:26
probably over at Zoro Ranch. So try again, Ian Maxwell.
50:31
He still fears for his sister's safety. If there are
50:34
other people that have not yet come into the prosecution's
50:38
orbit and who may be powerful people and don't wish
50:41
to be involved in this somehow, that they would find
50:44
it an ability to murder my sister or cause her
50:48
to have an accident that looks like an accident but isn't,
50:51
said Ian Maxwell. It may take more than six months
50:54
for Glenn Maxwell's appeal to be heard in the meantime,
50:58
Ian Maxwell said his family is standing by his sister.
51:02
We are her family, we love her, we miss her,
51:05
and we will support and defend her, said Ian Maxwell.
51:09
Imagine that being your hill to die on, the Maxwell's
51:13
should go over to the Laundry's house and they should
51:16
have dinner because they're just as reprehensible. But as far
51:20
as Jeffrey Epstein being murdered or killing himself, the question
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is up in the air. In my opinion, I am
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very agnostic about it. Like I've always said, I'm willing
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to go wherever the evidence leads us. Unfortunately, the DOJ
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and the people who were in charge, they refuse to
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be transparent and give us those answers. So it's going
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to remain a conspiracy theory until they do so. And
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they love that right. Once they can call something a
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conspiracy theory, that means they can demean it, and they
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can demean anybody who's asking questions about it. Unfortunately, for
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these boobs in the legacy media, that trick don't work
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in this case, because we all know this isn't a
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conspiracy theory. This is a criminal conspiracy, all right, folks,
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that's gonna do it for this one. All of the
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