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Mac & Bone Hour 2: 4-3 Defense & Panthers/Broncos Victory Formula · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:07
  Speaker 1: If you were to go, if a team.
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: Were to go, I'll put it hypothetically, if.
• 0:29
  Speaker 3: A team were to go from a 3-4 defense base
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  Speaker 3: to a 4-3 defense in the.
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  Speaker 2: Middle of the season, how hard would that be?
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  Speaker 3: Um i don't know um to be honest playing you
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  Speaker 3: know false narrative questions so i really don't i don't
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  Speaker 3: think that's what we're doing so i mean it's just
• 0:49
  Speaker 3: one of those things where you know we just got
• 0:52
  Speaker 3: a few different tweaks here and there but i mean
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  Speaker 3: for the most part we're going to do.
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  Speaker 4: What we do i mean for the most part there's
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  Speaker 4: only so many ways to play like the defensive front
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  Speaker 4: you guys have similar principles in both this defense that
• 1:03
  Speaker 4: you've had in previous ones like Understanding the gap, responsibilities,
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  Speaker 4: and everything like that, even if you were to make
• 1:09
  Speaker 4: a subtle change, it would be fairly easy to do, correct?
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  Speaker 3: I think it's one of those things where the coach
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  Speaker 3: staff put a lot of time into understanding that we're
• 1:19
  Speaker 3: so far into the season. One of those things is
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  Speaker 3: being able to keep guys on the same track and
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  Speaker 3: allowing us to play fast. I don't necessarily know how
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  Speaker 3: many more tweaks or what's going on on that aspect,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm just doing my job playing fast.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 5: That is Branson Buckner. One of the questions of the week.
• 1:39
  Speaker 5: What is this defense going to look like?
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  Speaker 2: That was Derrick Brown, Mac. That is Derrick Brown. What
• 1:44
  Speaker 2: did I say? You said Buckner. I'm losing my mind.
• 1:46
  Speaker 2: We're playing him next. I know.
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  Speaker 6: He's coming up next. I'm losing my mind, man.
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  Speaker 2: Seriously.
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  Speaker 5: The Hornets have done broke me. They have broke me, man.
• 1:54
  Speaker 5: I'm dumber than usual today.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to have to do it for the
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  Speaker 2: third time, but Fetty, we have to mop that up.
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: Just keep the mop.
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  Speaker 6: Matter of fact. Get a mop and a bucket for
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  Speaker 6: every aisle.
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  Speaker 2: Because I'm on one today. I am on one today.
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  Speaker 5: I am tired, I am grumpy, and the Hornets have
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  Speaker 5: broken my will. I'm telling you right, broken my will
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  Speaker 5: and my brain, man. Are we one mistake away from
• 2:17
  Speaker 5: you fighting one of us? Just let us know in advance. No,
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  Speaker 5: I'm good, man. I'm just, I'm a mess. I am
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  Speaker 5: a mess right now.
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  Speaker 6: Anyway, all right, that's Derek Brown of your Carolina Panthers.
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  Speaker 6: And he is answering the question of the week. What's
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  Speaker 6: the defense going to look like? Are you going to
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  Speaker 6: run a 4-3?
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  Speaker 5: Steve Reed is working on a project, Bone, because he
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  Speaker 5: has asked every man employed by the Carolina Panthers defensively
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  Speaker 5: if they're going to a 4-3.
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  Speaker 2: And listen, it's a great question.
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  Speaker 5: We're getting ready to talk about it right now because
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  Speaker 5: Panthers Twitter wants them some 4-3 right now like Fitty
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  Speaker 5: wants cake.
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  Speaker 2: Like I'm telling you, I'm telling you, y'all see it.
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  Speaker 5: Panthers Twitter wants a 4-3 and they believe it will
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  Speaker 5: solve every defensive problem that exists. We've got to talk
• 3:03
  Speaker 5: through this. Do we expect the defense to look different?
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  Speaker 5: If so, how? You know, what can be changed in
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  Speaker 5: such short order? And then the 4-3 question has to
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  Speaker 5: be asked as well. Do you expect it to look different, Bone,
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  Speaker 5: to the untrained eye on Sunday?
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  Speaker 2: Not really.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, if there were problems before with Averro, magically,
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  Speaker 6: you know, in a week, week and a half, those
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  Speaker 6: problems aren't going to all of a sudden alleviate itself.
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  Speaker 2: Now, could there be... Does the.
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  Speaker 6: The fire of Todd Walsh changed some things with some
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  Speaker 6: guys in the light of fire?
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  Speaker 2: That's possible, no doubt.
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  Speaker 6: But in terms of what we see on the field,
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  Speaker 6: I think some fans might be in a rude awakening.
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  Speaker 6: For a rude awakening, when we realize, oh, it doesn't
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  Speaker 6: really look a whole lot different than we saw with Averro.
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  Speaker 2: Pat Jones.
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  Speaker 6: If it was an offseason and there was a guy
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  Speaker 6: from the outside that came in, yes, obviously that's a
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  Speaker 6: different discussion. But right now, I'm not expecting a whole lot.
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  Speaker 6: And that's coming from people that played the game at
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  Speaker 6: the highest level. We saw this week saying, don't expect
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  Speaker 6: a whole lot of change right away. A guy like
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  Speaker 6: Xavier Woods this week on Twitter.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously, Xavier Woods was calling the Panthers we and he
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  Speaker 5: was with the Bears two weeks ago. I was very
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  Speaker 5: confused by that whole situation. But yes, he was on
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  Speaker 5: Twitter kind of telling everybody, hey, they can't you can't
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  Speaker 5: reinvent the wheel in this short order. You can't change
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  Speaker 5: a whole lot of things. Now, Pat Jones the other
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  Speaker 5: day made a comment, Bone, about he expects them to
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  Speaker 5: be more attacking up front. The Panthers under Avero, and
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  Speaker 5: this has been a lot of the talk on Panthers Twitter,
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  Speaker 5: have played a lot of two gap up front, which
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  Speaker 5: is you.
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  Speaker 2: Got to read and react, right?
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  Speaker 5: Each D lineman is responsible for two gaps. And OK,
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  Speaker 5: where's the ball going? Which gap am I in? Whereas
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  Speaker 5: people are wondering, OK, Todd Walsh's defense in the past
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  Speaker 5: have been 4-3.
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  Speaker 2: They've been one gap.
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  Speaker 5: Could they go to a one-gap scheme where it's, that's
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  Speaker 5: my gap, and I'm hitting it immediately, trying to get
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  Speaker 5: into the backfield? So I think people are asking that question.
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  Speaker 5: Could something like that be changed? Xavier Woods said, hey,
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  Speaker 5: if you're in certain zone coverages, you have to run
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  Speaker 5: a two-gap up front. So you can't change that on
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  Speaker 5: every coverage. So there's a lot of guys out there, Bone,
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  Speaker 5: know a lot more than us about it. I think
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  Speaker 5: they're interesting to hear on this. The question of, like,
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  Speaker 5: I think the defense... First of all, I'll say this again.
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  Speaker 5: No one wants to hear it. The Panthers' defense the
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  Speaker 5: majority of the games I thought looked either good or
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  Speaker 5: all right, pretty solid. it was two horrendous football games
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  Speaker 5: that they played. Averro's last game, I thought they hung
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  Speaker 5: in there pretty good, considering they were down to their fifth, sixth,
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  Speaker 5: and seventh corners by the time the game had ended.
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  Speaker 2: So I do want to say that.
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  Speaker 5: But I think once you get your corners back, and
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  Speaker 5: once you get Jalen Phillips back, and that may not
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  Speaker 5: happen this week with Jalen Phillips, the corners we've got
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  Speaker 5: to wait a little longer on, but I think once
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  Speaker 5: you get those guys backbone, I think things will be different.
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  Speaker 7: I think.
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  Speaker 2: We underrate our corners in the run game.
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  Speaker 5: And also something Trevor Sycamore was talking about with Anish
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  Speaker 5: Shroff this week.
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  Speaker 2: They do a daily thing, which is pretty cool, on Panthers.com.
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  Speaker 5: And Sycamore was pointing out, man, they are compensating for
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  Speaker 5: for the corners that are missing by not putting guys
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  Speaker 5: in the box necessarily to shut down the run game.
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  Speaker 5: So he said, they're getting caught in nickel and they're
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  Speaker 5: getting run on when they're in nickel.
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  Speaker 2: I think a niche had the, had the stat.
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  Speaker 5: We're giving up 5.4 yards of carry when in nickel
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  Speaker 5: teams are exploiting us when we're in nickel. And then
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  Speaker 5: Sycamore is like, but they're afraid. to not be, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I mean, conservative and keep defenders in the
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  Speaker 5: back end and play stuff to help against the pass
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  Speaker 5: because of their corner situation.
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  Speaker 6: There are three, four defenses that are some of the
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  Speaker 6: best in the league. There are four, three defenses that
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  Speaker 6: are some of the best in the league and some
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  Speaker 6: of the worst on both sides. So, yeah, we can
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  Speaker 6: look at, Max, some of the defenses like... You know,
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  Speaker 6: Green Bay's actually a pretty good defense. Jacksonville, there's some
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  Speaker 6: defenses that Seattle, they run the 4-3. But then you
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  Speaker 6: have Dallas, also runs the 4-3. Tennessee runs the 4-3.
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  Speaker 6: New Orleans, Tennessee, the Raiders. So, yeah, we can have
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  Speaker 6: examples of where it works on both sides and where
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  Speaker 6: it doesn't work on both sides. There's no guarantee that
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  Speaker 6: a switchback makes us the 85 Bears all.
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  Speaker 2: Of a sudden. Definitely not.
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  Speaker 5: No, I was looking at that, too, and it's pretty
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  Speaker 5: split at the top and the bottom in terms of
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  Speaker 5: who runs 4-3.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Who runs 3-4. I mean, the Steelers have been historically
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  Speaker 5: pretty damn good at defense. They played a 3-4 all
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  Speaker 5: the way back to the LeBeau era. So to me,
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  Speaker 5: I've never really cared about what the scheme is. It's just,
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  Speaker 5: are you running a good version of it? Do you
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  Speaker 5: have good players? And unfortunately... Both starting D-ends, edges, and
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  Speaker 5: both starting.
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  Speaker 2: Corners are out. That's going to kill you.
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  Speaker 5: Those are, in my opinion, the two most important positions
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  Speaker 5: in modern-day NFL football on defense. We are missing the
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  Speaker 5: top four corners and the top two edges right now.
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  Speaker 6: And if we had the full allotment of guys back
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  Speaker 6: up front, healthy, that would be a different mindset of
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  Speaker 6: putting four guys up front.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 6: If scoring's in there and those guys are eating up front, well,
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  Speaker 6: then that may be something there to talk about. But
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  Speaker 6: right now... We're struggling in all phases of defense right now.
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  Speaker 5: Big time, big time. Now, don't get me wrong. The
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  Speaker 5: run defense since Averro's been here on the whole is unacceptable.
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  Speaker 5: And the fact that we could have two garbage ass
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  Speaker 5: games on the ground like we had this season and
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  Speaker 5: Averro is in year four is you can't deny. It
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  Speaker 5: is an indictment on him. And some people think, you know,
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  Speaker 5: is it that two gap stuff up front? And would
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  Speaker 5: they change that? Now, Brinson Buckner is another one of
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  Speaker 5: these guys, Bone, that has forgotten more ball than we
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  Speaker 5: will ever know. And he's talked to us about this,
• 8:41
  Speaker 5: but he and Langston Wertz, you know, did a really
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  Speaker 5: cool podcast interview. You might want to check out Langston
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  Speaker 5: from the Charlotte Observer. And this is Buck talking about
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  Speaker 5: how he thinks we as fans make too much of
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  Speaker 5: the whole thing. Are they going to go 4-3 or
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  Speaker 5: are they going to stay 3-4 sort of discussion?
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  Speaker 2: It's not the 3-4 defense.
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  Speaker 7: Do you know that 78% of the game you're playing
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  Speaker 7: with four down linemen because everybody's in nickel defense because
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  Speaker 7: offense are running 11 personnel? So now you're just nitpicking. Well,
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  Speaker 7: he was a 3-4 guy, and that's why we lost. Well,
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  Speaker 7: if you look at the top 10 defenses in the
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  Speaker 7: NFL right now, I think seven of them are base
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  Speaker 7: 3-4 defenses. But everybody plays in nickel defenses right now.
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  Speaker 7: And it's not the defenses. It's who you got in
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  Speaker 7: the defense. You're missing both of your starting outside rushers.
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  Speaker 7: You're missing both of your starting corners who are Pro Bowl.
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: Well, the Pro Bowl don't exist no more. But Pro
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  Speaker 2: Bowl caliber corner guys.
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  Speaker 7: So you got your inside linebacker. You're missing one of
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  Speaker 7: your starting defensive tackles. It's hard to be productive in
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  Speaker 7: the league with that many injuries right now.
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  Speaker 6: To your point, Bone, and to Buck's point, Minnesota... Two
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  Speaker 6: just guys that have battled in the trenches. Yeah, two
• 9:53
  Speaker 6: dudes that know trench warfare.
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  Speaker 5: Minnesota and Tampa, I feel like they're pretty good defenses.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe the two best in the entire league, three-fourths. So it's, it's,
• 10:04
  Speaker 5: do you have the players and listen, don't, don't get
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  Speaker 5: me wrong. Like I'm not trying to say Averro's perfect.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think he was this horrible, constant failure that
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  Speaker 5: some fans think he is. Um, but I also think
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  Speaker 5: it's not fair to expect some huge changes this week.
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  Speaker 5: Now with that said, I don't think the Denver offense
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  Speaker 5: is very good. The running game's pretty bad. Um, uh,
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  Speaker 5: and I think there's a very good chance bone. Like
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  Speaker 5: they did last week and like they've done, honestly, a
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  Speaker 5: fair amount of weeks this year. I think they can
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  Speaker 5: play pretty good run defense this week.
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: I really do. I want to quote.
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  Speaker 6: Back the great poet Franklin Eugene Garcia, guest on the
• 10:42
  Speaker 6: show on Monday.
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: Mac, it's about the Jimmys and the Joes, not the
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: Xs and the Os.
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  Speaker 6: There you go. Hey, someone asked Mac a question I
• 10:51
  Speaker 6: want you to answer here. Who would win a matchup
• 10:54
  Speaker 6: between the Panthers' defense and the Hornets' offense?
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  Speaker 2: Ha ha! What a chess match.
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  Speaker 6: That is a scary one right there, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. What's worse to watch, y'all?
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  Speaker 5: The Panthers in those games where they cannot stop the
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  Speaker 5: run to save their lives or the Hornets in the games,
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  Speaker 5: which is basically all of them, Bo, where they can't
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  Speaker 5: hit a shot or make three passes without turning it over.
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  Speaker 5: More on the Hornets at 725. That's extremely frustrating, and
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  Speaker 5: I am blaming them for my general incompetence on today's show.
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  Speaker 2: And numerous brain farts. Someone said.
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  Speaker 6: Did you say incompetence or incontinence?
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: That's Finney's problem. Never mind.
• 11:34
  Speaker 5: Somebody said, Mac having so many brain farts, his brain
• 11:38
  Speaker 5: has gas this morning.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's funny. I think it might be.
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  Speaker 2: I'm laughing. Maybe it is.
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  Speaker 5: Let's get to more of what Trevor Sycamore was saying, Bone.
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  Speaker 5: Because him and Anish were talking all about the Panthers'
• 11:50
  Speaker 5: defensive struggles, struggles stopping the run. And I said they
• 11:53
  Speaker 5: were linking it to like.
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  Speaker 5: Are we having to compensate so much for our corners
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  Speaker 5: being out that we're having to be a nickel more,
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  Speaker 5: that we're having to go back to more too high?
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  Speaker 5: Because this year, Averro has blitzed the fifth most in
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  Speaker 5: the league, way more than he has in the past.
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  Speaker 5: He's tried it. Mixed results, right? And they also have
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  Speaker 5: done less too high. A lot of fans don't like
• 12:17
  Speaker 5: the too high safeties conservative, but they've done less of that.
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  Speaker 5: But have they had to do more of that once
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  Speaker 5: the corners have got hurt? Another thing that Trevor Sycamore
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  Speaker 5: brought up is the tackling and the tackling when we're
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  Speaker 5: in nickel and the amount of yards after contact per
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  Speaker 5: rush we're giving up when we have nickel personnel on
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  Speaker 5: the field. And he called out one guy in particular,
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  Speaker 5: and Bone, you brought him up a couple days ago
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  Speaker 5: and said he is not having that impact in the
• 12:45
  Speaker 5: run game that he had last year. And it's Trayvon Merrig.
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  Speaker 2: And I did not realize this stat until he said it.
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  Speaker 2: Listen to this.
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  Speaker 8: Trayvon Merrig specifically, who has been sort of a do-it-all
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  Speaker 8: safety for them. He's a coverage player, but a lot
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  Speaker 8: of times he's the guy that they'll have come down
• 13:01
  Speaker 8: and play at that second level and be that extra
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  Speaker 8: body in the box. He is averaging a career-high missed
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  Speaker 8: tackle rate right now.
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  Speaker 2: It is over 20% for him.
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  Speaker 8: And that's just, again, something where we've seen Merrick be
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  Speaker 8: a very reliable player. We've seen him be that move player,
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  Speaker 8: that chess piece to be a single high box safety
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  Speaker 8: or be a split safety player who maybe rotates post-snap.
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  Speaker 8: But right now, he just has much more missed tackles
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  Speaker 8: than we are used to seeing from him.
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  Speaker 2: You brought it up the other day. And I looked
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  Speaker 2: it up. It's 23% missed tackles. Not even really. For
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  Speaker 2: a great tackling safety normally.
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  Speaker 6: The impact plays are not there. The basic plays with
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  Speaker 6: that stat are not there. We talked to a source
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  Speaker 6: or heard from a source during camp that Merrick did
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  Speaker 6: not come into camp in great shape. that he was
• 13:52
  Speaker 6: not ready for camp this year. That's what we were told.
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  Speaker 6: Now you're kind of seeing it maybe play out a
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  Speaker 6: little bit. Remember back when he was getting smoked off
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  Speaker 6: the line by Jimmy Horn? Well, that's a tough matchup.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it is. But Merrick really hasn't done much
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  Speaker 2: of anything all season, the more I think about it.
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  Speaker 6: It's been a very quiet season for him, and the
• 14:09
  Speaker 6: missed tackles are a part of it. Casey in Mooresville,
• 14:12
  Speaker 6: I forgot Merrick played for us.
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  Speaker 5: We've got another texter that says Averro was a scapegoat
• 14:18
  Speaker 5: firing by Canales. But then we have another texter, Rod,
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  Speaker 5: stop defending Averro in all caps.
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  Speaker 2: Phinney, what do you think about this? Panther Phinney is allowed.
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  Speaker 6: Well, that's all caps raw, so everything's in caps. Oh,
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  Speaker 6: that's right.
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  Speaker 2: He is.
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  Speaker 6: He is all caps raw because he has owned the caps, baby,
• 14:37
  Speaker 6: to the point where we feel yelled at by him constantly. Fetty,
• 14:40
  Speaker 6: you're encouraged to be in Panther conversations, the Hornets conversations.
• 14:46
  Speaker 6: Walker Mayo has said to have you escorted out by
• 14:49
  Speaker 6: security if you try to get involved in those.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think about the defense?
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  Speaker 5: My thing is I expect things to look different when
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: we're healthy. I am curious, if anything, but skeptical if
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: anything's really going to look different this week.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think about this?
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  Speaker 9: I think they'll be inspired on Sunday to come out.
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  Speaker 2: And play better. At some point, there's got to be
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  Speaker 2: some pride for this group.
• 15:12
  Speaker 9: We could sit here and blame Avera for the scheme,
• 15:14
  Speaker 9: lack of adjustments, whatever. He got fired by a reflection
• 15:18
  Speaker 9: of the way those guys were playing. And hopefully guys
• 15:20
  Speaker 9: like Derrick Brown, Devin Lloyd, the vets on this roster,
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  Speaker 9: take that to heart. I do think there will be
• 15:26
  Speaker 9: some subtle changes, Mack. that maybe we can't tell, but
• 15:30
  Speaker 9: the football people will be able to tell us during
• 15:31
  Speaker 9: the game on the broadcast, like Ross Tucker, and then
• 15:34
  Speaker 9: the guys that break down the film afterwards, like on
• 15:36
  Speaker 9: the Monday shows. I do think what's very odd about
• 15:41
  Speaker 9: the way this defense is built, like Dave Canales said
• 15:44
  Speaker 9: they're built to play the 3-4 scheme. Your linebacker, that's
• 15:48
  Speaker 9: your GM, played the 4-3. I think he wants to
• 15:50
  Speaker 9: build defense. this roster in the image of what he
• 15:53
  Speaker 9: was here when he was playing here in Carolina in
• 15:55
  Speaker 9: the early 2000s, which means I do think there might
• 15:58
  Speaker 9: be a subtle shift in philosophy moving forward to get
• 16:01
  Speaker 9: back to that 4-3 look defensively.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: But as Buck said, you play so much nickel now.
• 16:06
  Speaker 9: How much time are you actually in your base defense?
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: They're in base defense, Fitty, like 30% of the time.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: 31% of the time? Exactly.
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: So that's another thing that we overdo with Scheme. Todd
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: Walsh is a 4-3 guy, and I think that's led
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: to a lot of the 4-3 fantasies online.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: One of my favorite fantasies, Mac.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: People are almost as excited, Bone, on Panther's Twitter. about
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: seeing a 4-3 defense as fit he is about some
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: of the things he'd like to see. And we'll leave
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: that quiet, all right, because he's a happily hooked-up man
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: right now. Why don't you worry about the one-on-one setup first? But, yeah,
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: so as far as.
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: I just, they built it because that's what Averro ran, right?
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: So they added personnel that they thought fit it. Could
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: they run? This texter says, I think their personnel would
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: fit a 4-3. Well, Tyrell Dotson, to me, is a
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: starting caliber linebacker bone, and he's a bench player right now.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: So you could easily put Tyrell Dotson on one side,
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: Okereke on the other, and Lloyd in the middle. Um,
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: and you could do that, but again, to the point
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: Buck and Fitty brought up, that's 30% of the downs,
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: but I would love to know, although.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Our runs see the thing is our run stats.
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: According to a niche and, and Sycamore are, are yards
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: per carry allow bone are way better in base defense.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: So the base defense run defense isn't the problem. It's
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: when we're in nickel. I also read something that is
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: an indictment of Rivero. Yes, or Rivero.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Avero.
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: That's like a hybrid. That's like a Ron Rivera, Shiro
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: Avero hybrid.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Great defensive mind, though.
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: If we could combine those two brains, we might not
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: have had to fire the guy. But anyway, we were
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: in nickel personnel 57% of the time in the Bucs game.
• 17:56
  Speaker 10: Huh.
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: Explain to me, while we are literally getting trucked over
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: run after run and Baker Mayfield is throwing very few passes,
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: explain to me why we didn't abort the nickel and
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: just get ourselves in base constantly and say, I dare
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: you to throw the ball on us in base. That
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: doesn't make any sense. There should have been an adjustment
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: where it was less nickel than that.
• 18:17
  Speaker 9: After the first drive, Tampa told you the first drive,
• 18:20
  Speaker 9: this is the way we're playing today.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: And they never adjusted.
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: He was missing a thumb. He was missing a thumb.
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: He was wearing a baseball glove. This wasn't really hard
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: to figure out that he wasn't throwing a whole lot.
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: So that is like, you were still in nickel. And
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: maybe to Sycamore's point, it was their extreme worry about
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: their corners. But to our point, to y'all's point, as
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: the game's unfolding, how do you not say, I don't
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: care if we have Bone and Fiddy at corner. We
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: are going to go in base and try to stop
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: your run.
• 18:49
  Speaker 9: I played safety in middle school. I could have been
• 18:51
  Speaker 9: out there in corner.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Bone, do you believe that? No, you did not play safety.
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: You were part of helping the kids cross the street.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: He had the big sash on. He had that orange,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: bright orange safety belt. Once that 21 tackles against Buford.
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: I love when he just makes up numbers on the fly.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: He gets serious. No way, this dude.
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: You got to get over your athletic past. You don't
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: hear Mac and I talk about how great we were.
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: We sure weren't great.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: 21 tackles. But I at least was playing varsity. What
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: level was this?
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: This was rec league. This was before I got to
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: middle school.
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: I mean, if you want me to break out my
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: stats from 8th grade, I could tell you about some
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: huge nights I had, Finney, but I didn't really think
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: it was worth bragging about at the age of 52.
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: All right, we're going to clean up these lies. We
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: got some bad news. It was a brutal night for
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: the Hornets. They lose the game to the Nets and
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: lose Con. Again, the injury. How low are the fan
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: vibes today? We've got good news, though, Mac. You've got
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: a QC Kinetics read coming up, and that's going to
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: get people really fired up. Stay tuned for that during
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: the break. Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
• 20:24
  Speaker 8: Coach, before we get to the game, Conn Knipple goes
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: back into the locker room in the first quarter.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: Do you have an update on his status?
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: No, I don't have an update yet.
• 20:32
  Speaker 10: We'll evaluate it more, obviously, when we get home from
• 20:34
  Speaker 10: the road trip tonight.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: This was a full contact game from start to finish.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: How did your guys handle that physicality? I thought they
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: handled the physicality pretty well.
• 20:42
  Speaker 10: I think there was a couple stretches throughout the game
• 20:45
  Speaker 10: where we were able to impose our will and, you know,
• 20:47
  Speaker 10: we're playing with pace and they feel us defensively. They
• 20:50
  Speaker 10: feel us offensively. We created some really good looks for
• 20:52
  Speaker 10: each other. I thought that, like, Our screeners were a
• 20:55
  Speaker 10: little bit more dynamic tonight. We were able to get
• 20:56
  Speaker 10: a piece of the paint. And then there was a
• 20:58
  Speaker 10: couple stretches where we're careless with the ball and lapses
• 21:02
  Speaker 10: on defense.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: But overall, I.
• 21:03
  Speaker 10: Thought the competitive spirit and the physicality of the group
• 21:05
  Speaker 10: was there all night.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: All right, Liz, Charles Lee's got no update on Khan,
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: who goes out with a left leg injury. And it's
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: hard not to feel like, did you redo the hamstring?
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: You know, same side, same leg, all that sort of stuff.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: That look on his face told you all you need
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: to know as well. Like he knew right away that
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: this wasn't good.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: And it didn't take much extreme movement on that situation. Lost,
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: went behind the back, lost it off his heel. It
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: was kind of like reaching, bending over and like he
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: felt it.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? It's kind of like something
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: that would happen to my old ass. You know what
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I mean? Get off the couch. Oh, I just pulled something.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: Like, it's like, it's... So it's, it's going to bring
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: up questions of, was he ready to come back?
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: It's inevitable. I'm not going to sit here and act
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: like Boney.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: I know the answer and I can start screaming at
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: their staff over there, but it does raise the question.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: He played a six minute stint. Something as simple as
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: that movement, and here he is again, man. And who
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: knows how long now, because now will they be safer
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: with him now? How long are they going to sit
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: him out and put him in bubble wrap now? I'm
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: scared about that.
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: I had that oblique injury a couple years ago reaching
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: for a fast food bag to the window.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Wait until you get even older
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: than that. It hurts, man.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: Simple movement, just grabbing a bag. Your body may literally
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: just fall apart like Samuel L. Jackson in Unbreakable when
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: you get over 50.
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: I've been pretty good lately, but, man, the other day
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: I had a little twinge going for the remote control.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: That's a thing, too, man. You reach for that remote
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: at a certain age? Good luck. I'm telling you, you
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: are the— Putting the life in your hands.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: Our former boss, Jeff Rickard, once said, Bone, is the oldest,
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: insert age here, man. You are definitely the oldest 43-year-old
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: man in America, Bone.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: But I'm in tune with my body, though.
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: I know what I can do and what I can't do.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: And what I can't do is move. Yeah. We've got
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: to talk about this Hornets situation.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: By the way, that Charles Lee interview, as he's trying
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: to find positives in a 10-point loss to the previously
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: 1-6 Nets, that reminded me of the early days Charles
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: Lee interviews, where it's like you're blowing smoke up everybody's
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: glutes right now. You've got to be annoyed with the
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: way this team is playing, too. The injuries are very annoying.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: I mean, Khan goes back out. Kobe does not seem himself.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: He was 2-9. He's on such an extreme minutes restriction bone.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: that he played 18 minutes, only two more minutes than
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: the night before, and only played three minutes.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: In the fourth quarter.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: So when we need, you know, Kobe, they've managed the
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: minutes to where he plays three minutes to start the
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: fourth quarter and sits out the final nine.
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, why do you not want him at the end
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: of the games and not really in the beginning of
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: the games?
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: It reminds me of what they did with Lamello when
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: they were trying to manage his minutes last year and
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: they didn't have it down pat.
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: And the first few games, he would have to sit
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: at the end of the game. It was like they
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: had to try to figure that out. Can he play
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: more in the second half than the first half? I
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: know that you're ready to go in the first half.
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: You're warmed up. But can we maybe adjust that a
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: little bit so he plays the end of the games?
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe that's crazy for me to think that.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: We're getting a lot of people saying this season, the
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: guy says this season is toast. This season is over
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: after nine games. Do you feel that? Clearly, our tone
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: today is agitated at the way the team is playing,
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: the turnovers, the missed shots are frustrating, but also the injuries.
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: Are you at that point, Bone, where you're like... This
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: is a lost sea. It still feels too early for that,
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: but I don't blame people for feeling that way.
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: I don't.
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't say I'm in a full-fledged panic, but I'm
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: highly concerned. And I know last year they started out rough, 4-14,
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: but you can't bank on a rally like that again.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: The depth of this conference, Mac, how tough opponents are
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: night in, night out. You've already dropped one of the Wizards,
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: who we think, even though they're better... You should be.
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: Start of the year, we thought you could beat the Wizards.
• 24:54
  Speaker 9: The Wizards!
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: At least every time you play them. I mean, you
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: beat them once. And the Nets, you split with them.
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: And those are the games that you have to win
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: with how hard the conference is top to bottom. The
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: con injury now worries me because the previous one, Mac,
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: was what?
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Six weeks?
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: Whatever it was, six, seven weeks, and he lasted three minutes.
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: So I'm worried about that. I'm worried about just trying
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: to get the basketball chemistry down with these guys. Everyone
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: is adjusting to roles without Melo, and yet we don't
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: see the starting five that we thought because of injuries.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: It's not just a....
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: Playing the game thing, everyone's adjusting to different roles in
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: their leadership as well. Khan, when he's in there, and
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: Brandon Miller are asked to be different leaders than they
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: were before.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Kobe Weitkamp has been around for a while.
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: Has he been the leader of an operation, like the
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: main guy? He was with Levine and DeRozan, a lot
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: of guys. Now he's asked to go try to lead
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: a younger group. Nas Reed, we talked about it. He's
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: now asked to go in there and play up a
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: role in leadership. And until they're all together, we don't
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: really know what that's going to look like because they
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: can't all play together right now. I'm not panicking at all.
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: I promise you, I am okay. I'm not panicking. I'm
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: just highly concerned. Do I sound like I'm panicking?
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: No, not at all. Not at all.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: Nas Reed is not being asked just to be a leader.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: Nas Reed is being asked for large stretches to carry
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: the offense. I mean, last night in the second half,
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: one for him, we would have lost by 25. Because
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: Lord knows Brandon Miller had an atrocity of a basketball game.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: But Nas Reed, the whole offense in the second half
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: was throw it to him in the high post, wing post,
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: all that stuff.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: And let him go to work.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: That's not supposed to be how Nas Reed's supposed to play.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: He's been asked to do too much, and sometimes he's
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: trying to do too much, and it's getting ugly. Dennis
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: Schroeder is not supposed to play the minutes he's playing, Bone.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, my Lord.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: And he's frustrating the hell out of me, but he's
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: being asked to play. And by the way, these guys
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: that are being asked, Grayson Allen has to score 20 points, Bone,
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: last night in the first half because nobody else other
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: than Tijon can hit a basket. A lot of these
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: guys that are being asked to do bigger roles are new.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: They're just trying to get acclimated to things here.
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: And they're being asked to, oh, by the way, get
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: out of your comfort zone and do more for us.
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: And Brandon Miller, speaking of comfort zones, is he out
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: of his comfort zone bone? Because it looked like when
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: he had the back-to-back 30 pieces, it looked like, okay,
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: he's figuring this out. I got to be uber aggressive.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: I got to hunt mismatches. I got to attack mismatches.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: I got to get to my spots. And I've got
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: to find so many ways to score for this team.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: And last night bone, he couldn't do any of that.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: He was missing threes. He only attempted five non threes.
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: He was not getting to any spots. He had, uh,
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: he had a much smaller guy in Michael Brown, who
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: looks amazing by the way, um, in the high post
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: bone and couldn't score either time on him. Um, uh,
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: he had multiple times where he got switches on big
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: old Danny Wolf and did not attack.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Him off the bounce.
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: He was two of 15 from the floor, three turnovers,
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: only one assist. So he didn't do anything where he
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: created for others. He got in foul trouble to limit
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: his minutes, Boehm. He had five fouls and had to
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: sit a ton. And why was he getting fouls? Because
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: it was clear frustration fouls. I'm upset at the way
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: things are going. So here, I'm going to give away
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: fouls and hurt my team. Like, is he not up
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: for his increased role? And now his running mate, Khan,
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: plays six minutes and is out again for Lord knows
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: how long.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I'm not panicking, bonus. It's not like I'm panicking. No,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: not at all. It's a really hard watch right now, man.
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: Kobe and Brandon shot four for 23 combined from the field. Now,
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: I know Kobe's got to get back in there, but
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: the bottom line is, as I go Stephen A. Smith,
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: the bottom line is four for 23 from those two.
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: They combined 14 points, one for 15 from three. With
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: the way this is set up, Mac, Conn plays three minutes.
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: If Brandon and Kobe White, Mac, aren't the offensive machine
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: that we think they're supposed to be, then they're going
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: to lose to just about every team if they're going
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: to shoot that way. So all these things matter. But
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: if those guys are going to combine for 14 points
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: and shoot like that, and there's no Conn, yeah, say goodnight.
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: It doesn't matter if you're playing the Nets or the Sixers.
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: By the way, stop cheating Khan out of his extra
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: three minutes. Man lasted six minutes, Bone, and then the
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: injury hit.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I meant three points in six minutes. Yeah, he did.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: He drew the foul on the three.
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: The point is, if those two are going to shoot
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: that way, it doesn't matter if you're playing the best
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: team in the league or the worst team in the league.
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: The results are probably going to be the same. They
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: have to be on for this team to be good.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: And if we shoot like this, Bone, we are close
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: to the worst team in the league. Like, seriously.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: We could sit here. It's like the old days when
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: we would say, we just lost to the Nets.
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: They're horrible.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: And then someone would show us a mirror, and it'd
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: be like, oh, damn. By the way, Brandon. We're pretty ugly, too.
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: Outside of the one stretch where he had 18 in
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: the first half against the Nets in that first game
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: they played against them, he has been awful against the Nets.
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: From the second half of the first game to this game, I'm.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Not sure what it is. Whatever they've done to Brandon,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: my God, this is the Nets.
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: This is the Nets.
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: I have to be honest with you, Bone. Outside of
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: three games, he's been so inefficient. Outside of three games,
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: and two of them were those 30-point outbursts, he has
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: been extremely inefficient in this increased role.
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: And I love him. I've stumped for him. I've stand
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: for him. But man, you watch some of these games,
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: and it's like, is he not capable of that role?
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: And listen, if they have Kobe healthy in himself and
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: playing his full minutes... And Khan, it's going to be different,
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: but they don't. This is the hand we're dealt, and
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: it is a hand. And Hornets fans are ready to fold, Bone,
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: early on in the poker game. What I urge, it's
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: very important that you don't panic. Yeah, very important. 30%
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: from three again last night. How about the stat? I
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: forget which one of the Hornets writers keeps tweeting this out.
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: Their stat, Bone, on wide open threes, they are 30%
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: on wide open threes this season. And this is a
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: team that takes, did you see that graphic they put
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: up last night?
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: They are on pace to have the third highest. Graphic
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: was the key word. They are on.
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: Pace to have the third highest three-point rate in NBA history.
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: They are shooting 51% of their field goal attempts are threes,
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: but they are shooting it pathetically. I mean, Bone, they
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: are bottom three in three-point percentage. Offensive efficiency, they're dead last.
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: And turnovers, they're also next to last in turnovers. And
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: they're 28th in three-point shooting. But yet we are shooting
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: a higher percentage of threes than all but two teams
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: in the history of the league.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: How are you going to win doing it?
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: Taking shots that you consistently are horrible at right now.
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: And I listen, I understand a rational way to look
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: at it is eventually guys will be healthy. We hope
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: eventually the shots will start falling, but man, it's hard
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: to watch. And it's hard to watch bone in light
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: of the fact that they were an offensive machine. in
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: the second half last year. And we're going to have
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: to deal with it. We're going to have to talk
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: about it at eight o'clock hour. Like folks that hated
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: the Lomelo trade are, I told you so, and their
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: rear ends off. And it's hard to not be like,
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: and again, the Lomelo trade was not about the here
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: and now necessarily, Bone. But it's hard not to be like, man,
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: LaMelo made that offense go. I will sum it up
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: again with the stat, Matt, from Owen O'Connor, who does
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: the Hornets reporting for the SI feed. The Hornets right
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: now have their lowest offensive rating they've had since 2014.
• 32:40
  Speaker 10: Ha ha.
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: Think about where the offense was for most of last year,
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: and now we're back to the lowest offensive rating in
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: 12 seasons. Unbelievable. And I've got to be honest with you,
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: there's been some pretty bad basketball played in these 12 seasons.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: You ain't kidding. We've got a texter, Bone. Is he
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: concerned about EC? No, he's not just concerned about his
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: fellow Hornets fans. He thinks that EC... has lost a
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: little bit of his swagger because of this team. The
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: thing is, he says EC's not freaking out as much. Well,
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: there's no LaMelo. He was like a freak out inducing
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: player and the Hornets are not giving him material, Bo.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: That's the problem.
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: You're wasting EC Hornets when you can't hit a damn shot.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: When's he supposed to freak out? He's not having freak-out moments.
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: They're not there right now. Also, style plays different. Not
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: just that they're not playing well, but when Melo and Bridges,
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: they added an excitement of flair with the highlights. He
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: doesn't have that right now. Even if they make baskets,
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: it's not really the... I don't think Musa Tip and
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: Mack is really going to get EC.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: We've heard. Well... Let's be honest.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Moose up!
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Well, you know what I mean. Those six will get
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: him fired up.
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: No, he gets fired up, but he went to other
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: levels with those guys, and these guys aren't doing necessarily
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: the same highlight reel plays. Those guys do. If EC's
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: a problem now, we have a major issue. 704 number says,
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: stop that, y'all. EC would freak out when Leaky Black
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: would score a damn basket. Yeah, I think he needs
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: to adjust, Bone. I think he might need to tweak
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: his game back to the old dark days. when he
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: would have to freak out over a leaky black basket.
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: Dennis Schroeder actually makes contact with the rim on a
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: driving finger roll because he didn't do that last night
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter. You see freak out. I think
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: he needs to change his bar for freak outs.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: He usually has a down-the-line player that he loves. I
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: love this man. I don't know.
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: Is it like Liam McNeely who's not played? Is it
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: someone like that? There's someone that always excites him that
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: doesn't play a lot. I don't know who it would
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: be right now. Steinbach maybe?
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: He was freaking out over Grayson Allen. Had 20 in
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: the first half. But then the second half happened. Did
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: they even realize Grayson was on the court to pass
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: to him in the second half?
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: I also wondered. He was limping around the first half
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: as well. Is he all right? So is he injured?
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: Oh, you're saying when the guy made contact knee-to-knee on
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: the N-1-3? Yeah, then he was a little bit off
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: the court. I was worried about that for a while.
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: Nas Reed had a back thing going on. Nas Reed
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: balled out with that back injury. Schroeder's hurt. Kobe got
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: poked in the eye with no foul call. I mean, yeah,
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: we're not panicking, though. I want y'all to know this
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: is not the sound of us panicking. We urge you
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: to stay the course. Don't want to see people freaking out, panicking.
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: When we come back, we're going to reset things here, Matt.
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: We're going to take a break. We're going to go
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: into a more positive topic, the Panthers' victory formula for
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: Sunday over the Denver Broncos.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: This is what EC sounds like going off against announcing
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: the Hornets.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Hum-diddle-ee-dee.
• 35:57
  Speaker 9: What a basket.
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: That is DVR Dave doing his depressed 2026-2027 Charlotte Hornets.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Broadcasting. Did you like that, Boat?
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Can I say something? I love DVR Day, but can
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: I say something? What's that? It makes me uncomfortable sometimes.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I don't really know what that was.
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: Was that the best use of our 13 seconds possible,
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: you think, or no?
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: EC, we're thinking of you, baby. I know this has
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: got to be hard. And here's the thing.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: That's like clearing the bench at the end of a game.
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: DVR Dave got a little bit of a run there,
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: and it's like, all right, he's going to go back
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: to the end of the bench now. Hey, man, we
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: don't have him in today's roundtable, so I feel like
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: we'll work him in somehow.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: We want to get our players some run, baby. You
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Anyway, EC, we're feeling for you, baby.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I understand. Because you know what he wants to do?
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: He wants to do what we're doing on our couches.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: What the hell are you doing?
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: Finger rolling an air ball.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Dennis Schroeder. He wants to probably yell that way, but
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: he can't. Picante said, get VCR Dave out of here.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: VCR Dave.
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: Picante also said he's done with the Hornets. He's only
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: a Tar Heel fan now when it comes to basketball.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: He's left the building.
• 37:11
  Speaker 9: I don't think that's a good thing either.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: You're a Tar Heel fan, Picante?
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: I didn't know Tar Heels, Hornets. Jeff Peterson, you've done
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: it now. You've lost Picante. You've also probably lost about
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: 600 guys on the text line. More on that later, though.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: More on that later. Jeff Peterson is playing the long game, y'all.
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Asset acquisition. Have I triggered y'all yet with that? All right.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: Let's talk quickly about this game against the Broncos, Bone Man,
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: and do our victory formula for the game on Saturday.
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: It's very interesting that that point spread is down to
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: two and a half. It's like, does somebody know something,
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: Bone Man? Because here in Charlotte, it feels like, oh,
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: my God, the Broncos have won four straight. Their defense
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: is playing better. Bo Nix is playing a bit better.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: How do we get a dub, Bone? What's the first
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: thing you'd put on that to-do list?
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: I'm going to go ahead and present my theory on
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: why the spread might be that way, Mac, and what
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: may help the Panthers here. What do we always say
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: all the time in the National Football League? Sometimes it's about...
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: what you're coming off of, what's ahead. Sometimes it's about
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: the schedule and the vibes of a team, good or bad.
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: I think that the Panthers actually find Denver in the
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: right spot here off the huge win at Kansas City.
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: They're feeling good about themselves. They're confident. The Panthers are
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: almost in a desperation mode. They fired their D.C., Panthers
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: need a win in the worst way. Denver Mac has
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: the bye week next. They're trying to go to the
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: bye week on a five game winning streak, beating Kansas City.
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: Is there maybe a little bit of overlooking the Panthers
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: here after their big win? A week off is right
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: there where they can feel really good about themselves. And
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: in this league, Mac, sometimes you can get caught if
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: you overlook an opponent. And that might be what people
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: are thinking about that point spread.
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: So the first part of your formula is we need
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: a Denver team a little sleepy.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: It's 10 a.m. their time. 100%. Or 11 a.m.
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: Their time.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: We need them overlooking us. That's part of the formula.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: I ain't too proud to ask for that.
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: And maybe they come in thinking they're the better team,
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: and all of a sudden in the second half they're
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: up by a little or it's tied and they find
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: themselves in a ballgame. And by that point you realize, oh, no,
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: we thought we were the much better team. Now we're
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: in a fight.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: So I could see that happening. I ain't too proud
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: to ask for that. I also ain't too proud, Bone,
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: to ask– For somehow, somehow. some way brad idzik Goody
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: and Gilbert, the O-line coaches, and whoever the heck starts
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: on our O-line this week, and the tight ends, because
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: they need to be involved too, Bone.
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: There needs to be help for these tackles. But I
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: ain't too proud to beg.
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: Please find a way to protect Bryce Young better than
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: you have the last couple weeks. He's been pressured over 50%
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: of the time the last two weeks. He's been sacked
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: 11 times in the last two weeks. And Denver comes
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: in here, Bone, sixth in the league in pressure percentage.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: And I look at their PFF page. Four different dudes, Bone,
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: with 22 pressures or more. Zach Allen's got the most
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: at 34. Nick Benito on the inside. Nick Benito on
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: the outside has 28. This is a scary front to
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: go at it against Bone with our pass protection. Like Bryce,
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: Bryce needs time to breathe. We don't even know Bone
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: if he's fully healthy and is going to be able
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: to have that.
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: You know, top mobility. God, the protection needs to get better.
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: I know, Mac, that guys were hurt for them. So
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: that's a big factor in some of their numbers, though.
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: But they are 25th in opponent passing yards per game allowed.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: So there is some holes there statistically in the defense.
• 40:44
  Speaker 10: And.
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: You know, opponents– I'm just reading the numbers on the fly.
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: There's some passing numbers here because of injuries that are
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: not as great as you think. But that goes into
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: your point there of Bryce has to have time to
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: maybe exploit some of those things. If not, then it's
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: going to be very similar to last week where Bryce
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: is just getting filleted back there.
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: I mean, if you're just looking at the stats, they're
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: 25th in total defense. But look at the last four games, Bone.
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: They're playing better. They're getting healthier. Sertan was out for
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: a while. That affected their pass defense. Now he's back.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: Could Sertan take T-Mac out of the game? We saw
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: Denzel Ward do it. So, like, these are things I'm
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: worried about. The Broncos also, Bone, it needs to be
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: pointed out as well, are horrendous running the football. I
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: need the running game taken out like they did last
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: week against Green Bay. Now, the Jonah Coleman kid is
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: running it a little better the last couple of weeks.
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: Dobbins is struggling at 3.3 yards a carry, but Coleman's
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: had some success. I would expect him to get the carries,
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: but can we with a new D.C.? And I thought
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: Finney put it a good way. That defense is going to,
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: I would be shocked, and I beg them, come out
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: with a chip on your shoulder. Guys, your play, not
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: saying Ajero Overo didn't do things wrong, but those guys
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: need to feel like the way we played got our
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: leader fired. And they need to come out, Bone, determined
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: to not let it happen again. And so I think
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: that can start with stopping the run. And if you
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: get Bo Nix in second and third and long, I
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: know our corners are still iffy, but maybe you got
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: a chance if you get Bo Nix in second and
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: third and long.
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: They did lose Harvey, one of their backs. Here's another
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: crazy stat with Denver, Matt, that figure this one out.
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: On offense, they are last in the league on third
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: down conversions at 29.7%. However, on fourth downs, they are
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: first in the league at 83 percent conversions. So they're
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: the worst on third downs and they're the best on
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: fourth down. So that tells me get them off the
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: field on third down and you're good to go.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Don't let them get close enough to going for it.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: How is that? How are you so good on third down?
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Yet that's crazy. That's insane. Eighty three percent on fourth down.
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: It's also it's it's also crazy as the Bo Nix
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: fourth quarter stats versus first three quarter stats. It's like
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: he turns into Bo Elway in the fourth quarter. They
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: have four fourth quarter comebacks.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: See, that's the thing, though, Bone. It's not like they're 6-2, right?
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: And maybe this is what Vegas or the betters are
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: thinking or whatever reason they're only two-and-a-half point favorites. There
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: is some element of smoke and mirrors to their, you
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: know what I mean? They've been pulling some games out
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: of their backside. Like the game where Bo Nix was
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: absolutely horrendous, so horrendous that Riot Fitzpatrick verbally assaulted him
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: on live television.
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: They found a way to win that game. You know,
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: so they have found a way to win games. And
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: I will say this. Their offense is averaging 29 a game.
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: And Bo Nix's numbers have gone up the last two games.
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: I will say that. How about this advanced stat? I
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: don't know if you saw this one or not. There's
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: a coach smugness stat. And Sean Payton leads the league.
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: And he will do something back in this game that
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: screams arrogance. He'll either go for it or take a chance.
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: He will do something in this game, and it's paramount
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: that you shut that man up and don't let the
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: arrogance come get you. He's going to go for it
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: in the spot and try to embarrass the Panthers. Whatever, man.
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: But we got to shut those purse whips up on Sunday.
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: You know he's going to do something that bothers us
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: out there. Multiple texters believe punching Sean... in his smug
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: little punchable face.
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: Multiple texters saying some form of that is one of
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: the keys to Sunday's game.
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: What if Todd Walsh says, all right, I'll get this
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: fan base behind me here. What if Todd Walsh just
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: walks up to Sean Payton and punches him right in
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: the face before the game starts? That would work. That
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: would work.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: You know what? Give him a four-year deal as DC.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: That happens.
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: Then he'd become God Walsh. Todd the God walk. Let's
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: see here. What are some of these texts we're getting
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: right now? Let's see.
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: 704 number says, I don't want to give you the
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: cliche answer, but please run the football and take some
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: pressure off Bryce Young. If we're predictable passers, they will
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: tee off, obviously, and get it going early.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Try to commit early. early to the run.
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: James from Maidenbone is having some fun at my expense
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: here on the show.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: And I know you hate to see that.
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: James from Maiden says, Mac, do you live in an
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: alternate reality and only visit our dimension to make ridiculous
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: predictions and absurd takes on the Panthers, Mac? Or are
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: you actually Stuart Smully? Does he think I'm being too
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: cheery and optimistic? I mean, that's the whole point of
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: the segment. I'm not guaranteeing they're going to do all
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: these things, Bone. I'm just saying, hey, you could win
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: maybe if you do this, this, and this.
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: It's called the victory formula. We're trying to figure out
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: how they can win the game. How is it hard
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: to understand that?
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: James, we've got to stay on the same page, baby,
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: because I'm locked in as a dookie this season, baby.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Me, you, and Bone. All right, we got to lock in.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Dookie filth. We can't be fighting, Bone. You know what
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I mean?
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: I talked to my man, Duke Q, who works here
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: in the hallway yesterday. I guess he's not familiar, Mac,
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: with the Mac-ers, because you announced you were on Duke
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: for the whole year when he was in the hallway.
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: He took me aside and said, hey, man, what's Mac's
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: track record? I said, oh, he doesn't know, does he?
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: This is not good. He said, and I quote, I'm
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: going to go look this up. I said, don't go
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: to the Internet, man, please.
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: Him asking when I say I'm backing his team this
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: year as a local team that can win it all,
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: him asking my track record of backing teams, Bone, is
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: like if you met Charlie Manson back in the day
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: and somebody says, what's he like?
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: He seems like a really nice guy.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Ha ha ha. People right now are on a Mac
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: mistake watch. Stop it. He didn't make a mistake this segment.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Everyone calm down. Maybe I did.
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: Mac knows the Panthers play on Sunday, not Saturday.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: He wouldn't say that. Work with me, y'all. I'm like Grandpa.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: People are all over you today.
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: I'm like Grandpa. This guy's mad because he doesn't want
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: any optimism on his radio.
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: Brian, the fact that we are sitting here in this
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: pathetic sports town with these pathetic sports teams and Mac
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: can say anything positive makes me want to punch him
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: through my radio.
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: Good morning, sir. Who peed in your cornflakes? Oh, yeah,
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: it was the Hornets and the Panthers. When we come back, oh,
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: this is a good segue. Two things are bothering Mac
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: to start the season for the Hornets. He'll list those off,
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: and NC State, with no reported interest in actual experienced
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: college coaches, will go through that.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.