Latest / Founder Unfiltered - What Founders Think But Never Say / How AI is Reshaping the Founder Journey (From the Inside Out) with Manuj Aggarwal
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- 0:00Welcome to another episode of Founder Unfiltered, the
- 0:04conversations that founders think but never talk about.
- 0:07I'm incredibly excited to welcome Manoush Agarwal.
- 0:11Manoush is the founder and Chief Innovation Officer at Tetra
- 0:15Noodle Technologies, an elite AI engineering company.
- 0:18He's got a remarkable track record of driving transformative
- 0:22change through Tetra Noodle by touching over 10 million lives
- 0:26and generating over $500 million in value.
- 0:29He's an absolute expert in AI, but not just AI.
- 0:33We're going to talk about really the impact on the founder, the
- 0:36founder journey on companies, and much more.
- 0:39Welcome to the show. Thank you so much, excited to be
- 0:41here. All right, excited to have you.
- 0:43So give us a further understanding like I had an
- 0:47intro for you, but give us a further understanding of who you
- 0:50are, what you do, and then we'll we'll dive in.
- 0:53My story begins in India, a small town.
- 0:57I got into a Community College earlier on, but fell into drugs,
- 1:02wrong company and dropped out of College in three months.
- 1:07And that's where my sort of life started, Just a roller coaster.
- 1:13And I couldn't figure out what I was meant to do until I found
- 1:18computers and software. And once I found it, like, I
- 1:21just loved it. I got into AI around 2005.
- 1:25The very first project that we built was personalized learning
- 1:29for students. So it basically was a platform
- 1:32which understood every student's mind intimately and their level
- 1:36of understanding of the topic and then personalized the
- 1:39curriculum for them. And that was my first kind of
- 1:42like peek into the human mind and how our minds are so complex
- 1:47and diverse, but also the power of AI and how it can understand
- 1:52each human individually and adapt the systems.
- 1:55So since then, I have done quite a bit of work on understanding
- 1:58our mind, neuroscience, psychology, obviously doing a
- 2:02lot of work in AI. And my work now is basically
- 2:07combining these two areas and creating a continuum.
- 2:11Because as we go into this conversation, I hope you will
- 2:15start to appreciate how our minds are getting impacted by AI
- 2:19and vice versa. It's a two way St. that's
- 2:21happening right now. Wow.
- 2:23So you're you're we're long before the Chat GPTS of the
- 2:27world. I imagine that's giving you a
- 2:29huge leg up in understanding the technology at its core.
- 2:34And then you have these new LLMS coming in and changing the game.
- 2:37I mean, what's your take on that?
- 2:38Every corner you look at, there's an AI expert, but the
- 2:42the foundations that you developed over 20 years, you
- 2:45cannot take that away. But you know, I, I wish I could
- 2:47say like I had even more experience because believe it or
- 2:51not, AI has been around since the 1960s.
- 2:53So there are people, you know, much wiser than me, much more
- 2:57experienced in, in this technology.
- 2:59But yes, it does give you a real good advantage if you understand
- 3:03that the real basics, the internals of algorithms and how
- 3:07this is all you know put together.
- 3:09Let's just go start at a really base level because I don't want
- 3:11to just have the probably conversation everybody's having
- 3:14of like how to use AI to make your business more efficient.
- 3:17Like, yes, you know, we'll hit on it, I'm sure.
- 3:19But I really want to talk about the impact of AI on the founder.
- 3:23Whether if we really think about a founder that's been in
- 3:26business for a number of years, has some customers, has some
- 3:29clients now AI is coming into the show, what is the impact on
- 3:33them? And I really want to talk start
- 3:35with the mental emotional piece that you're seeing in your work,
- 3:40maybe from your own personal experience as well.
- 3:41First of all, I'll give you a little bit of a background here,
- 3:44right? When we work with AI, we first
- 3:46look at the human being just like what you are saying, you
- 3:49know, focus on the founder, focus on the leader, because AI
- 3:53is a tool that that they use to improve their business and life.
- 3:57And most people don't do that. So we have a framework called AI
- 4:01Merge. And the idea is that human mind
- 4:04needs to kind of have this layer of a membrane between AI, this
- 4:10intelligent entity that has landed in our lap to be able to
- 4:13interact with it. Last year, I was invited to
- 4:17present this framework at Mensa Foundation, which is, you know,
- 4:21a very prominent body researching human intelligence.
- 4:26They are the people behind IQ research and all that.
- 4:29What I found out was average human IQ in this world is 90
- 4:33which is just about like young adult.
- 4:36So think about it this way, every AI platform out there,
- 4:39Gemini, open AI, ChatGPT, plot, whatever they have to cater to
- 4:44the least common denominator. Meaning as intelligent as these
- 4:49systems are, they are going to treat you as a young adult and
- 4:54give you the output that will resonate with you.
- 4:58Meaning they will stroke your ego.
- 4:59They will never argue with you. They will give you a million
- 5:03different options. And as a founder, you'll be
- 5:05like, wow, it used to take me so much time to figure out all
- 5:09these options. Now I can get it in seconds.
- 5:11But imagine what is happening in our mind.
- 5:14It's getting overloaded with all these options.
- 5:17Founders tend to have this mind which is in OverDrive anyways
- 5:21because that's who entrepreneurs are.
- 5:23They notice the patterns in the in the world and they find and
- 5:27then they build solutions. But if you ever have done house
- 5:31repainting job, if you go to a Home Depot to find the right
- 5:35color, if they have a million colors, our mind gets so
- 5:38confused. Like I don't know which shade of
- 5:40pink should I use? Which shade of green should I
- 5:42use? That's exactly what is happening
- 5:44right now in people's minds as they consume what I called crude
- 5:49AI crude oil. Just like crude oil, you cannot
- 5:52put it in your car because it's going to jam your engine.
- 5:56People are putting crude AI in their minds, which is putting
- 6:00the whole mind and the nervous system in OverDrive right now.
- 6:04So what we do is we basically filter it out just like
- 6:08electricity. When the power plant produces
- 6:11electricity, it produces at a very high voltage, 11,012
- 6:15thousand volts. You cannot plug your fridge or
- 6:18toaster oven into that electricity.
- 6:20You need a regulator to regulate it down so that it's safe for
- 6:25your appliances to be plugged in.
- 6:26Similar analogy with crude oil. It needs to be refined before
- 6:30you start to put it in your car as these giants are flooding the
- 6:34market with for $20.00 a month is crude AI, which is kind of
- 6:39like putting the mind in OverDrive.
- 6:42And that's why you see a lot of anxiety, a lot of, you know, a
- 6:45lot of stress just building up. And so the idea is that you need
- 6:50to have some protection layer to kind of like consume it in a
- 6:54safe manner. It can be really easy these days
- 6:57to outsource decision making, right?
- 7:01I'll just ask it a question and I don't need to think anymore.
- 7:04Save me the time, energy, What's happening when I do that as a
- 7:08founder? We have adopted this notion that
- 7:11we are logical creatures, but we are very emotional.
- 7:14Everything that we experience in life, 90% of what we experience
- 7:18in life is actually our subconscious mind.
- 7:20And it is related to our past experiences, our core values,
- 7:24our belief systems. So let's say, you know, I'll
- 7:27give you a simple example. Let's say I'm a vegetarian and
- 7:30I'm a vegan. You know, that's my core belief.
- 7:33I don't want to have any meat whatsoever.
- 7:36And then you invite me to a really high end Michelin star
- 7:40restaurant which only serves meat.
- 7:42That is not going to work. Even though your intentions are
- 7:45really good, it's against my values.
- 7:48So when you are talking to AI and outsourcing your decision
- 7:52making, it does not know anything about you and your core
- 7:55values. It will just say, OK, do this
- 7:58let's say you're working on a deal, you didn't have a good
- 8:03meeting with the client and you just say to chat GPD or any hey,
- 8:08this guy was not really nice to me, what should I do?
- 8:11A standard LLM response will be OK, just cut off the deal, move
- 8:15on, blah, blah blah, right. But if you give it more context
- 8:19that actually I woke up on the wrong side of my bed, I had a
- 8:23fight with my spouse in the morning.
- 8:25I was the one like kind of like dysregulated.
- 8:28And this is the context of this conversation.
- 8:30This is what happened. Now this LLM.
- 8:34And obviously, if it has even more context about your
- 8:37background, about, you know, if you have any anger management
- 8:41issues, if you had like any anxiety issues, all of these
- 8:44things are the internal structure of your mind, which
- 8:48most AIS have no clue about. And people are afraid to share
- 8:53all this because we are not self aware enough to notice all this
- 8:56about us, right? So when you outsource this
- 8:59decision, you're basically inviting a vegan into a
- 9:03steakhouse. And you may think, oh, it's,
- 9:06it's a nice meal. You know, it looks pretty
- 9:08expensive and and decent, but how far is it going to take you,
- 9:12nourish you and and you know, really help you accomplish your
- 9:15goals? That's very questionable.
- 9:17Based on all of that, what is your recommendation for how to
- 9:21use the AI? In the end of the day, I want my
- 9:24company to be successful. I want a great user experience.
- 9:27I want to differentiate all those things.
- 9:30What's your recommendation? So what we have done is we have
- 9:32come up with a seven step foundational, the framework to
- 9:36use any AI, any AI easily first find your purpose.
- 9:41So before that as I say, I reiterate this paradigm, people
- 9:46who are going to be successful, they don't need to know the
- 9:50algorithm, they don't need to know the prompts.
- 9:52I mean, most people are running after that aspect of AI.
- 9:56What are the best tools? What is the best prompt?
- 9:59The people who are going to be successful with AI will know
- 10:02themselves the best. So how do you know yourself
- 10:06best? These seven things, if you start
- 10:08to adopt them and focus on them, it will really help you
- 10:12accelerate. The first one is your purpose.
- 10:14What is your why? Why are you doing what you're
- 10:17doing? Unless and until you know this,
- 10:20AI will take you all different ways.
- 10:22But if you find your purpose and you say, OK, this is my goal,
- 10:26it's it, it cannot be, oh, I want to make $1,000,000.
- 10:29It cannot be, you know, I want to be filthy rich.
- 10:31That's not purpose. Purpose is something that is
- 10:34deeper than that, right? So there is some pain point you
- 10:37experience in your life and you cannot tolerate this pain point
- 10:41for others. And that's why you want to solve
- 10:43it for others. So there's a deeper sense to
- 10:46that. And we have a deeper exercise to
- 10:48actually find this purpose. But once you find it, you need
- 10:51to let AI know that anything that you tell me, please help me
- 10:56align my decisions to my core values, to my purpose.
- 11:00The second thing is your identity.
- 11:02So the world does not give you what you want or need.
- 11:06The world reflects you, who you are inside.
- 11:10So if you are a struggling founder making, trying to make
- 11:15cash flow and monthly payments, you need to look at the identity
- 11:19of that future founder that has accomplished your goal and how
- 11:23do you become that person? That is the key.
- 11:27So, so understand yourself identity in this whole paradigm
- 11:32and how you come across to AI because it's going to start
- 11:36reflecting you. The third thing is relationships
- 11:39and business and life. Nothing happens in isolation.
- 11:42We all need each other because we can only be good at one or
- 11:47two things. So how do you use AI?
- 11:50We become a person that actually creates better relationships,
- 11:54creates a community around them, is better at networking and
- 11:57those type of things. Fourth pillar is creativity
- 12:00because we all build these massive 5 year plans and the
- 12:03next day we never do anything right?
- 12:06So creativity, you can use leverage AI to say, OK, this is
- 12:09where I want to be in five years, but right now, just give
- 12:13me one step I can take in the next one hour and keep moving
- 12:18forward with that, right? Then your time.
- 12:21So this is where AI agents and automation comes in, where you
- 12:24can start to offload repetitive work and then take your time
- 12:28back. The more time you have, the more
- 12:30calm you are. You will be able to be more
- 12:32productive. Obviously, Peace of Mind is
- 12:35another one because as I explained earlier, there's going
- 12:38to be an explosion of information options, all of this
- 12:42around the world, and that's going to kind of like create
- 12:45more anxiety and stress in the human mind.
- 12:48So you need to protect against that and retain your Peace of
- 12:53Mind. Otherwise you're going to be
- 12:54spinning in the circle. And the foundational pillar is
- 12:58embodiment, because embodiment is engaging with the field,
- 13:01engaging with outside world. Because as AI becomes more and
- 13:05more powerful, most people will. I think I can just sit here in
- 13:09my cubicle and work with AI all day long and things will happen.
- 13:13But the real results happen out there in real life.
- 13:16So you need to kind of like, say, OK, I'm going to talk to AI
- 13:20for 30 minutes a day, no more than that.
- 13:22But based on what I get out of it, I'm gonna go out there and
- 13:26take action. You know, I'm gonna talk to real
- 13:29people and I'm gonna touch real objects and go in nature, these
- 13:32type of things. So if you start to adopt these 7
- 13:36pillars, it'll start to restore your humanity and that is what
- 13:40is going to make you more valuable in the age of Yeah.
- 13:42Does that make sense? Yeah, I mean, I feel like you
- 13:45just took us on like a personal development journey.
- 13:47I loved it. So many amazing quotes in there.
- 13:51The question I really want to ask and you said, cuz I find it,
- 13:54I'll just share myself. It can be addicting to stay
- 13:58home, right, and just work with my AI and build new features and
- 14:03right, like it's kind of addicting, frankly.
- 14:05And, and as you said, what's going to differentiate is going
- 14:09out there and actually into the world.
- 14:11And maybe that's in nature to just like recover and connect
- 14:13with myself, but maybe it's, you know, talking to real people and
- 14:17building new relationships. So maybe I would love your just
- 14:20take on that because so many people I talked to, we're like
- 14:23staying up late, we're cancelling social plans.
- 14:25We're, we're like just working all the time now because AI
- 14:28opened up doors that didn't exist.
- 14:31How do we navigate that and get ourselves away from staying at
- 14:35home and just working? So we are going through a huge
- 14:39transition. This is a evolutionary scale
- 14:42transition at at a human species level.
- 14:45OK, so think about it this way. When we were in the caves, our
- 14:50job used to be 24/7, just hunt for food, you know, find a
- 14:54rabbit, kill it, bring it back. But then somebody discovered,
- 14:57you know, agriculture, and they said, you know what, let's just
- 15:00plant some seeds in the ground and just lay low for six months.
- 15:03And we'll have so much food. And the people running around,
- 15:07they'll be like, what are you talking about?
- 15:08Like, are you crazy? This is not going to happen.
- 15:10Like, you're going to starve. They were still running around
- 15:14and killing animals. But until slowly, people realize
- 15:18that if you actually follow this path of nature, you know, you
- 15:20sow some seeds, you'll have abundant food.
- 15:24So that's what's happening today where people are spinning their
- 15:28wheels, living the old paradigm by the way.
- 15:32So we are not no longer in the old paradigm of 0 sum game
- 15:36creating solutions. It will take a lot of time,
- 15:39maybe decades for people to shift their mindset.
- 15:42And until that happens, people who start to see the light
- 15:46earlier on, they will start to play the game of Go rather than
- 15:50the game of chess, which is actually do engage with the
- 15:54field so that you can bring the bring the material that is
- 15:58needed by AI to help you make the right decisions.
- 16:02Because if you sit here and talk to AI all day long, it's looking
- 16:05at the past data. The cut off date for each of the
- 16:08platforms is like months and months away in the back.
- 16:12So you are looking at past data and you're trying to make
- 16:16decisions about a brand new world that is shaping under our
- 16:21noses. Huge disconnect right there,
- 16:25right? So you need to go out there.
- 16:27You need to to people and only then you will have something
- 16:30meaningful to say to AI. Otherwise you're just, you know,
- 16:34going in circles. Satisfy the with the fact that
- 16:37you are being busy. That's not going to bring any
- 16:39results. Yeah, I mean, you kind of hit on
- 16:41this earlier too, and I've heard it rephrased in a similar way of
- 16:45AI is almost like the middle 50% of everything that's been done
- 16:48in the past. Yeah, Yeah.
- 16:49So if you're outsourcing, right, you said it, you talked about
- 16:52like IQ levels to, you know, a teenager, right.
- 16:55And and it's basically the same thing you're saying if you
- 16:57outsource your decision making to AI, right?
- 17:00You're one in the past and two talking towards the middle 50%
- 17:03this teenage IQ level. Nobody wants to be that.
- 17:07You're not creating anything magical or amazing from that
- 17:09place. Yeah, exactly.
- 17:11Exactly. So, OK, you said something
- 17:13earlier that before we started recording that you guys are
- 17:16working on creating, correct? You're gonna correct my language
- 17:19here, but digital copies of the founder so that the teams don't
- 17:23have to rely on the human founder as much.
- 17:27Tell us what's going on there. So it's basically, you know, I
- 17:29already described the seven steps here.
- 17:31So this protocol is called AI merge.
- 17:34These entities are getting more intelligent.
- 17:37So think about, for the sake of argument, an alien landed on on
- 17:41the planet and now we need to talk to it.
- 17:43The aliens have this advanced technology.
- 17:45We, you know, they have a different language.
- 17:47We don't know how to talk to them.
- 17:49So consider AI as that intelligent entity, and the
- 17:52human mind needs a way to interact with this entity
- 17:57safely. Just like we need to wear a
- 18:00helmet when we drive a fast car, we need to wear a seat belt.
- 18:05This AI merge protocol is that safety layer where it actually
- 18:10prioritizes these 7 pillars that I mentioned earlier.
- 18:13So before you interact with AI, it goes through this layer of AI
- 18:16merge and it says, hey, this user, this is their purpose.
- 18:21This is their current identity. This is what their future
- 18:24identity they want to create. These are the type of
- 18:27relationships they have created or they want to create.
- 18:30This is how they think creatively.
- 18:34This is what their time calendar looks like.
- 18:37This is what their state of mind is, and this is how they embody
- 18:40this life experience. Whether they sit in their chair
- 18:43all day long or they go out there, you know, for a walk or
- 18:46whatever. So all this is baked into this
- 18:49protocol so that when you talk to AI, it actually starts to
- 18:54make the right decisions for you.
- 18:56So a founder or a CEO, essentially what they are doing
- 19:00is making a million decisions every day based on the data that
- 19:04is that they're collecting, right?
- 19:05So if you now have a super intelligent entity that thinks
- 19:09like you, but not just think like you, as I said earlier, the
- 19:13results you experience in life, 90% of it comes from your
- 19:17subconscious mind, meaning how you feel the the environment
- 19:22around you. If you consider this fact now
- 19:24this is a super intelligent entity that can feel the
- 19:27environment like you. Now you can hand over this
- 19:30digital twin to your team and say hey, if I'm on the beach,
- 19:34don't disturb me. If you need that answer, talk to
- 19:37this guy. And if we, if this person or
- 19:40this entity cannot answer it, then message me.
- 19:43And by the way, in my own company, I fired myself as the
- 19:47CEO few months ago because I was in the same loop of, you know,
- 19:51OK, we need to make this happen in this month.
- 19:54Like these are the team members. This is their strength,
- 19:56weakness. How do I deal with this?
- 19:58Right? But a human mind is not capable
- 20:01of like having all this. We can push through it, but
- 20:06won't it be better if we give this thinking process to a
- 20:09machine? Because it's optimized for that.
- 20:12And and then you can just say, hey, by the end of this month,
- 20:15this is the goal we want to hit. You tell us who should do what
- 20:20in what sequence so that we can hit that goal.
- 20:23I have so many questions. Sounds amazing.
- 20:26And how well is it working, right?
- 20:28Like if I go to the beach, like, yeah, how's it going?
- 20:31It's absolutely great. Look, we are at the beginning
- 20:34of, as I said, we are at the beginning of this transition.
- 20:36So I won't say here that, oh, I can take like 3 weeks off and
- 20:40not look at my company at all. No, but I can tell you a
- 20:44cognitive load my, my stress, my anxiety before I have a stand up
- 20:48call every day with my team gone, I don't even need to like
- 20:52think about what is going to happen because I know there is
- 20:54a, there is a much more intelligent entity which
- 20:57remembers everything, which stores all the data, which knows
- 21:00each and every person on my team.
- 21:02What is their strength, what is their weakness, What is their
- 21:05background and then optimizes all of it and says, OK, this is
- 21:08your plan for the next day or the next week or whatever,
- 21:12whatever. My team is spread across the
- 21:13world. I don't have to spend nights
- 21:15waking, you know, waking up and thinking, oh, you know, they are
- 21:18stuck. They actually use this to
- 21:20actually move forward and then come back to me with fewer
- 21:23questions. So it's actually how doing a
- 21:26much, much better job than I was doing as a CEO that I can tell.
- 21:32You wow as you talk, I mean, it sounds amazing, right?
- 21:35And assuming it works, I can see it being a massive impact on
- 21:39businesses. And so many people I talk to,
- 21:43there's a new tool, a new thing, a new way of doing business.
- 21:46I mean, how do you figure out what to use?
- 21:49How do you keep up with it at all?
- 21:50And not necessarily you, but if you're talk because you're like
- 21:53living and breathing this stuff, right?
- 21:55But for the average business owner founder out there that's
- 21:58being maybe pitched or reading about all these different tools.
- 22:02I mean, what do you do to not make this just end up being a
- 22:05massive distraction from your goal of like delivering
- 22:09incredible value with your product or service?
- 22:11Yeah, so great question. One thing I've learned in
- 22:14technology is there are and any, any field, only 5% of the people
- 22:19know what they are doing and the rest 95% they follow right.
- 22:23And I'm not bragging here or I'm not egotistical, but I am in
- 22:29circles with the highest levels of people at Open AI at Google,
- 22:33at Microsoft, they are very, very busy in coming up with the
- 22:37AGI and the the best and the fastest algorithms and the AI
- 22:42models. That is their goal.
- 22:44Nobody's looking at the human nobody.
- 22:46And so that's where we start. And literally we use maybe
- 22:51handful of tools, like 5 tools at the Max.
- 22:54And the rest is our own framework which is optimizing
- 22:58the human experience. Because in technology, what
- 23:00happens is if something is good, it will show up at your doorstep
- 23:05sooner or later. And so rather than going out
- 23:08there and looking for let me try this tool, let me try that tool.
- 23:12We say, OK, let's wait for a problem to show up and then we
- 23:17will go look for tools. And generally, 90% of the
- 23:22problems in business are human problems.
- 23:25OK, so it's like saying that this is one of the most frequent
- 23:32questions I get asked. What is your favorite tool?
- 23:35So I respond to it like this. You know, it's like asking me
- 23:38what is my favorite appliance in my kitchen.
- 23:40Is it is it the fridge? Is it the toaster?
- 23:42Is it the oven? So I say it depends on what you
- 23:45want to cook. And then you say, OK, this
- 23:48appliance will be the the right appliance for what I'm trying to
- 23:51cook right now. So first focus on yourself, on
- 23:55your business, on your outcome. And then you work backwards from
- 23:58there. And if you do it that way,
- 23:59you'll realize actually you don't need more than four or
- 24:03five pools. So if I can make a digital copy
- 24:06of myself, and I can somewhat give this, you keep calling it
- 24:10an entity. So I'll use the language.
- 24:12I, I, I give this entity to my team, I would imagine I can make
- 24:16a digital copy of somebody else and use it for my company.
- 24:21So I could take the best entrepreneurs in the world,
- 24:25maybe like the Elon Musk, or even they don't even need to be
- 24:27alive, right? I could take the Steve Jobs of
- 24:29the world or whoever. I I could take Einstein, maybe.
- 24:31I don't know. You tell me what I can do.
- 24:33Like I don't. Why?
- 24:35Why would I take my brains? You know, like, yeah, I'm a
- 24:37smart person, but I'm not going to pretend to be.
- 24:39Excellent question. Excellent question.
- 24:41See, this is where you really need to understand what a human
- 24:44being is. Human being is basically a
- 24:46nervous system covered with, you know, our skin and, and, and all
- 24:49of that the the body, Elon Musk's nervous system is not
- 24:54compatible with yours. If you are put in charge of
- 24:59Tesla, you will, you know, no offense.
- 25:02You will probably tell you. Yeah, OK, So don't get me wrong.
- 25:07What we do is we actually create executive boards where we do
- 25:10include people like Elon Musk and those type of things.
- 25:13But if Elon Musk gives me advice, it's not going to work
- 25:16for me. He's gonna say, you want to do
- 25:19this, OK, raise $800 billion and hire 10,000 people, Not gonna
- 25:24work. The second thing, the most
- 25:26important thing I like keep repeating, is everything that
- 25:29you see on the Internet. It's coming from their logical
- 25:31mind, OK, The decisions they have made, but we do not get
- 25:38even an ounce of what their nervous system is all about.
- 25:41Their subconscious mind is all about their background is all
- 25:44about what was the real deep pain they experienced in their
- 25:47life which prompted them to go to this level that they
- 25:51sacrificed everything in life and said, OK, this is my one
- 25:54purpose, 1 mission, one goal. Unless and until you know you
- 25:59are the only person who knows that and even you will need help
- 26:04to dig deeper, deeper, deeper. So first order of business is
- 26:09not to go look for, you know, advice from Elon Musk.
- 26:12The first order of business is get familiar with yourself and
- 26:16what really drives you, what lights up your soul on fire.
- 26:21And then you can surround yourself with all these other
- 26:26advisors and all of that. But that too filtered by your
- 26:30own lens and you can say Elon Musk is going to tell me to
- 26:34raise an $800 billion, but you know, I want a bootstrap.
- 26:37So you know, kind of like down step that advice for me so that
- 26:43I can use it. Right.
- 26:45So I'm going to go off the reservation here.
- 26:47You have said it a number of times, like find your purpose.
- 26:50What lights up your soul? Age-old question, how do you do
- 26:55that? For thousands and thousands of
- 26:58years, these these paradigms have been there.
- 27:00So I study a lot of obviously different fields, not just AI.
- 27:04So ancient wisdom, neuroscience, psychology.
- 27:07There's a Japanese concept called ikigai.
- 27:10OK. And once you start to understand
- 27:13it, it's you just need to answer a few questions to find your
- 27:17purpose. And here is the here is the
- 27:20thing that people don't understand.
- 27:22Sometimes they do this exercise and say, oh, I found my purpose.
- 27:25Now you know, I know what. But our purpose, we are living
- 27:29in such a dynamic environment. Our purpose shifts every 3030
- 27:34days, 90 days. Like as you start to go into the
- 27:37world, as you start to make more and more discovery about
- 27:40yourself, your purpose starts to change.
- 27:43And, and as you start to engage with this AI and keep updating
- 27:48the purpose, keep using AI to align your decisions with your
- 27:53purpose, it rapidly starts to like kind of pull you forward in
- 27:57your life. Absolutely, absolutely,
- 28:30absolutely. Money is a means to an end.
- 28:55What we really seek is safety and recognition and somebody who
- 29:02who listens to us, sees us and what we learn in our life is if
- 29:06you have more money, that will happen automatically.
- 29:08So we run after money, but at at the end of the day, the end goal
- 29:11is seeking that safety, that novelty, that experience of
- 29:15life, embodiment of life. OK, so think about it this way.
- 29:21AI is an algorithm which needs fuel.
- 29:25Fuel for AI is data. OK?
- 29:28So all these companies right now pumping billions of into the
- 29:33GPU's data centers, they are running out of data.
- 29:37OK, It's almost like humans are running out of oil.
- 29:41OK, so there is actually a saying, data is more expensive
- 29:45now than the new gold or new oil is data.
- 29:51So imagine in the new world our focus is finding safety, which I
- 29:56can narrow it down to nervous system attunement.
- 29:59We just want our nervous system to feel safe.
- 30:02We feel safe when we are out there in the world, you know,
- 30:05travelling and all that. There is going to be a company
- 30:07very soon, an airline or a travel company, which will pay
- 30:12you to travel so that they can collect data which goes back
- 30:17into AI and makes it smarter. Does that make sense?
- 30:23Yeah, yes. So the whole paradigm of how
- 30:28money works, what commerce is, what education is all about,
- 30:33once you start to understand the history of humanity, how we came
- 30:36here and what is about to happen, then you can see clearly
- 30:41what this new world is going to be.
- 30:42And it's going to be mind blowing.
- 30:44It's, it's not going to resemble anything that we know about
- 30:48history. It's, it's, it's totally
- 30:49different world. This change I'm talking about
- 30:56next, next one, one decade. I call it inhale and exhale,
- 31:14meaning so far the whole economy has been about inhaling
- 31:20information, consuming information.
- 31:24Education is based on, you know, like cram this information,
- 31:27remember it and regurgitate it when the test comes or
- 31:31employment is how much your nervous system can take in terms
- 31:35of tension and stress and, and do the work.
- 31:38This new economy is, is going to be about excelling.
- 31:42How can you express yourself? How can you bring out your
- 31:47authentic story and attract people with that authentic story
- 31:53to join in your mission? If that's making sense.
- 31:56So if you think about it like we are in a transition phase here.
- 32:00People make fun of influencers, right?
- 32:03Oh, influencer is a job. But if you think about it, what
- 32:07they're doing is they are putting up a show.
- 32:09They are putting up a performance to let their
- 32:12audience live vicariously through them while 97% of the
- 32:17people are locked up in their cubicle.
- 32:18They dream about, oh, I'm going to go travel the world.
- 32:21I'm going to do this. And then they look at their
- 32:23TikTok and they're, oh, this guy's doing it.
- 32:25OK, My mind is now sort of capturing that data now, right?
- 32:30So you need to flip that and you need to go out there and engage
- 32:35with the world in such a way that your nervous system gets
- 32:40attuned. That's why self-awareness and
- 32:42knowing what really works for you, finding your purpose is key
- 32:46because that is what is your nervous system seeking.
- 32:50And that is the gold rush that is going to happen.
- 32:55But unfortunately it's, it's a, it's a mind bending thing that
- 32:58most people are not going to be able to wrap their head around.
- 33:14Yeah, go to my website, Manu Jagarwal, Google me, I'm easy to
- 33:17find or find me on LinkedIn. I know my spellings are a little
- 33:21bit difficult, but my company website istetanoodle.com.
- 33:25Just reach out and let me know what you guys are working on.
- 33:28How can I help? Thank you, Thank you, thank you,
- 33:33thank you. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
- 33:43You're welcome.