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OneLegUpAlex Media Talks Re-Districting In The Shake it Off Soundbite of the Week 5-3-26 · OneLegUpAlex Media

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  Speaker 1: Here's your host, Alex Garrett here at One.
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  Speaker 2: Leg Up Alex Media. Of course we're going to get
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  Speaker 2: to the loss of John Sterling at One Leg Up
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  Speaker 2: Alex Sports. But I need time to process that because
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of thoughts, there's a lot of feelings,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of emotions to it, and I'm not
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  Speaker 2: ready to address that. So I want to begin part
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  Speaker 2: one of a series on redistricting, and I'll start with
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  Speaker 2: the shake it Off sound by of the week. We
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  Speaker 2: actually talk about redistricting last night in our second hour
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  Speaker 2: and here as you know, redistricting thing has been in
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  Speaker 2: the news. So here's what Lucas, MRT and I talked
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  Speaker 2: about on Shake it Off with Mertin Lucas for May third,
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 1: Guest, ladies and gentlemen. It's redistricting season. It's a time
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  Speaker 1: when both parties pretend to be shocked, shocked, shocked that
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  Speaker 1: the other side is trying to rig the political geometry.
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  Speaker 1: And this year the stakes are higher, the shapes are weirder,
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  Speaker 1: and the quotes are juicier. This isn't a story, It's
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  Speaker 1: a continental breakfast of political absurdity. Got any thoughts about this?
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  Speaker 1: Ridiculous redistricting battle murder.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it's a magic trick. You see the black vote,
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  Speaker 3: Now you don't, it's this where to go? Where'd the
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  Speaker 3: black vote go? No?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. But the fact the black vote does
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  Speaker 1: not disappear, that's a bit of a exageration.
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  Speaker 3: You're funny for saying that that's exactly what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: But I understand it. This is what you're supposed to
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  Speaker 3: do because there's no way that a lot of these
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  Speaker 3: conservatives see that they can win the minority vote. So
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  Speaker 3: it's smart to try to redraw the lines because it's
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  Speaker 3: allowed by law, especially now, so I don't have a
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  Speaker 3: problem with it. This is on other communities who have
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  Speaker 3: a problem with the political process to get involved to
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  Speaker 3: prevent this stuff from happening. When people are smart and
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  Speaker 3: they use the government to do their bidding, you cannot
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  Speaker 3: be mad because it's all equal access. Now. I know
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  Speaker 3: that's not technically true, but in reality it is true.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody can participate. There's a lot of people out there
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  Speaker 3: who are choosing not to. And now they're waking up
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  Speaker 3: today and they're upset and they're mad, and they're saying, well,
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  Speaker 3: how could they do this. Well, if you go to school,
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  Speaker 3: a basic high school class will teach you all this stuff. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't pass that class with an APE. I might
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  Speaker 3: have got a C. I might've got a Z or.
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  Speaker 1: Be in that class. Well C is passing.
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  Speaker 3: No, Yeah, but it's like it's like if you're smart,
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  Speaker 3: that's not a real good grade. But if you were
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  Speaker 3: in any kind of civics high school class talks about history,
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  Speaker 3: you would understand how some of this stuff works. And
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  Speaker 3: all it takes is us participating and they can't take
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  Speaker 3: your little rights away. But if you don't participate, all
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  Speaker 3: of a sudden, the map is going to look like
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  Speaker 3: a plate of spaghetti because it's going to be one
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  Speaker 3: thing over here, one thing over there, and all of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden, they're going to have all these seats and
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  Speaker 3: there's nothing you can do about it because they use
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  Speaker 3: the law. So you can get mad at Republicans for
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  Speaker 3: using the law when you have the same opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the Democrats are using the law too. You see
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  Speaker 1: what they did in California. They redrew everything over there too. Now,
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  Speaker 1: but here's the interesting part. Well, while politicians fight over
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  Speaker 1: these maps like they're the last slights of pizza at
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  Speaker 1: a campaign fundraiser. Voters across the country hate the whole process.
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  Speaker 1: Not dislike Mert, they hate it, and we've got the
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  Speaker 1: numbers to prove it. Ready. A major national survey by
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  Speaker 1: Common Cause and Noble Predictive Insights to one of the
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  Speaker 1: largest redistricting polls in the country found something remarkable. Americans
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  Speaker 1: by and large hate partisan map, drawing seventy seven percent
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  Speaker 1: of Americans we're independent redistricting not political. That includes, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, Mert, seventy six percent of Democrats, fifty seven
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  Speaker 1: percent of Republicans, and seventy two percent of independence. Even
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  Speaker 1: sixty percent of Trumpet voters in twenty twenty four oppose
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  Speaker 1: these mid decade redistricting moves. So this has to be
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  Speaker 1: viewed as a miracle to see these kind of numbers.
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  Speaker 1: They're expressing distaste for the games that politicians are playing
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  Speaker 1: right before our very eyes.
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  Speaker 3: You know, sometimes, you know, sometimes I hear about you.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I hear you talk about these polls, and
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  Speaker 3: sometimes I wish on these polls they could have an
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  Speaker 3: option that said, I don't know what this poll is
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  Speaker 3: talking about, because I really think that sometimes with these.
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  Speaker 1: Polls, you don't believe polls either.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm saying that some of these polls
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  Speaker 3: they might not have too many options, so they just
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  Speaker 3: picked something to sound like they're smart, and they don't
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  Speaker 3: really know what their pitch.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So with the studio audience, calm down, studio audiences.
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  Speaker 3: So with these polls, you know, I think people are
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  Speaker 3: saying they're upset. Well, I don't really think they're paying
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  Speaker 3: attention because this stuff is taking place, and then when
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  Speaker 3: everybody translates it into English where everybody can understand it,
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  Speaker 3: now they want to get upset. But I think if
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  Speaker 3: you were paying attention, you would have already known this.
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  Speaker 3: You wouldn't be blindsided. You know, they don't do things
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  Speaker 3: in the dark. You could see this coming from a
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  Speaker 3: mile away. What was they doing with tech? What was
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  Speaker 3: the origin of all this nonsense? What state were they
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  Speaker 3: redrawing stuff? Was it text?
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  Speaker 2: You know, you're in New York. They tried to but
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  Speaker 2: the judges stopped them here in New York.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get what you're saying, Martin. I think it
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  Speaker 1: was Trump was trying to instigate it, and this is
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  Speaker 1: sort of backfiring a little bit. But look, there's another poll.
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  Speaker 1: I know you love polls, so let me throw this in.
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  Speaker 1: Another poll from Reuters, I found that fifty five percent
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  Speaker 1: of Americans say partisan registricting is bad for democracy, and
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  Speaker 1: only eighteen percent say it isn't SOT. When fifty five
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  Speaker 1: percent of Americans agree on anything, okay, that's significant. But
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  Speaker 1: then you've got politicians like Newsom out in California who
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  Speaker 1: shamelessly ignores the will of the American people. Americans are saying,
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  Speaker 1: hands off, but the politicians are way too hands on.
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  Speaker 1: You see any audience agres they should be ashamed, they
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  Speaker 1: should be ashamed of themselves. And you seem to think
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  Speaker 1: it's okay, Come on, Mert.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's all okay because it's the laws that we
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  Speaker 3: put on the books. I mean, that's the system we
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  Speaker 3: got to operate by. Something. You're a lawyer, you should
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  Speaker 3: know this better than But.
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  Speaker 1: What about the will of the people. The will of
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  Speaker 1: the people's and don't play games with the maps. Well
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  Speaker 1: you put the numbers. You just heard the numbers. You're
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  Speaker 1: ignoring the numbers just like there, just like the politicians
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  Speaker 1: are ignoring the law. How's that for interesting, Alex, do you.
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  Speaker 3: Notice Well, hold on a second, I'm not about to
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  Speaker 3: let you try to manipulate me and put me in
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  Speaker 3: a chicken or the egg situation? Which one came Which
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  Speaker 3: one came first?
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  Speaker 1: Talking about chickens or eggs? Right on that where DIRIZI coming.
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  Speaker 3: From with this situation. We know which one came first.
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  Speaker 3: The laws came first, so the people supported the law.
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  Speaker 3: Now if they don't like the law, the people should
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  Speaker 3: do something to rewrite it or to change it. But
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  Speaker 3: they're not doing that. So the Republicans have done something
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  Speaker 3: because they want the law to go further and they
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  Speaker 3: want to be able to do it with more freedom.
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  Speaker 3: So when you try to put a chicken or the egg, well,
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  Speaker 3: the people have a right to be upset.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: No, the people decided on a system, and now they're
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  Speaker 3: getting upset because they don't like the system anymore.
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  Speaker 1: No, because the system is being abused murder. It's the opposite.
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  Speaker 1: They're saying, hands off on the maps. Okay, you're misinterpreting
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  Speaker 1: what the people what the people are saying, which is
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  Speaker 1: common for you. You don't like dealing with the facts.
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  Speaker 1: You like going off in some rabbit hole. Has doctor
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  Speaker 1: Vermoniu apptly diagnosed you, mister rabbit hole?
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  Speaker 3: So I think you're a part of this group of
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  Speaker 3: the people, then, who don't understand that you have a
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  Speaker 3: responsibility to participate. I don't want to hear you complain
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  Speaker 3: when things aren't going your way, when you're sitting on
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  Speaker 3: the sidelines. Doom scrolling. If we want to bring up
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  Speaker 3: the doctor, that was one of her favorite terms, doom
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  Speaker 3: scrolling and YouTube and looking at nonsense all day. Get
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  Speaker 3: out there and participate, and they won't be able to
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  Speaker 3: readraw lines and upset the likes of mister Ferarra who
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  Speaker 3: sits in his ivory tower with his millions of dollars.
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  Speaker 3: They wouldn't be able to do this type of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: He's attacked. It's disparaging me, and he's attacking me. So
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  Speaker 1: a you're gonna just sit there and allow him?
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  Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 3: I love this back and play play your little sound
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  Speaker 3: effects to help him.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Look in Virginia, the voters approved reperend
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  Speaker 1: him to change how districts were drawn. They said yes
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  Speaker 1: with enthusiasm. Then a judge stepped in and said the
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  Speaker 1: ballot language was and this is a quote flagrantly misleading.
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  Speaker 1: That's a judge Jack Hurley, who apparently believes that voters
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  Speaker 1: of Virginia are wandering around in a flaw, in a fog.
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  Speaker 1: The state's Attorney General, Jay Jones, was on amused. He
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  Speaker 1: fired back, Virginia voters have spoken, and an activist judge
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  Speaker 1: should not have veto power over the people's vote. But
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  Speaker 1: then the National Republican Committee chair Joe Grudders jumped in
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  Speaker 1: and accused Democrats of playton power grab, which is adorable
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  Speaker 1: because accusing the other party of a barograb during redistricting
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  Speaker 1: is like accusing a shark of being too enthusiastic about swimming.
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  Speaker 1: This whole thing is a big mess. Merder So, this
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  Speaker 1: has got to stop. It's just causing confusion, and it's
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  Speaker 1: causing anger, and this rhetoric and this divisiveness is leading
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  Speaker 1: to a lot of violence.
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  Speaker 2: And political At least they voted on this and then
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  Speaker 2: just blindside the people.
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  Speaker 1: Right, that's right, that's right. But it's still going down
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  Speaker 1: the rabbit hole, so to speak. To borrow a merd term,
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  Speaker 1: because it's mired and litigation and people fighting there. You know, Texas,
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  Speaker 1: we're seeing the same thing in North Carolina, Ohio. Look,
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  Speaker 1: people are defined, they're defying the will of the people.
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  Speaker 1: California shameful. Okay, So this is this germandering stuff, you know,
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  Speaker 1: had nothing to do with California. Knewsom was doing it
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  Speaker 1: because of what was happening elsewhere in the country. That's
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  Speaker 1: a new strategy. If you Jerry mander, will Jerry Mander back.
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  Speaker 1: This is mutually assured reakdistricting people. That's awful. And listen,
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  Speaker 1: seem to be okay. You seem to be okay with it.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, I don't need you to try to speak for
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  Speaker 3: me because I don't. I didn't hire you. You know,
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  Speaker 3: that's out of my price range. So I don't want
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  Speaker 3: you trying to defend me. I'm gonna say this. I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna say this, and your little sound effects they can
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  Speaker 3: go away too. I'm gonna say that they're perfect.
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  Speaker 1: They're perfect, Alex, keep them coming.
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  Speaker 3: This whole fiasco comes down to this. I'm gonna simplify
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  Speaker 3: it because Lucas uses a whole bunch of big words
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  Speaker 3: and a whole lot of fancy sentences. They don't want
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  Speaker 3: to lose control. We know who we're talking about, the Republicans.
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  Speaker 3: When you try to bring up Gavin Newsom, that's just
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  Speaker 3: a deflection tactic. And it's not gonna work here because
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  Speaker 3: this is all about Republicans trying to keep their little
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  Speaker 3: edge that they think they have, but they're gonna lose
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  Speaker 3: it because they're so unpopular. It's gonna happen one way
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  Speaker 3: or another. See all these redistricting efforts. It's my theory.
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  Speaker 3: I could be proven wrong at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 3: It's still not gonna work because I already see the
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  Speaker 3: wheels turning in people heads. We've seen it last week
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  Speaker 3: when you were critical of Trump, both of you, both
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  Speaker 3: you and Alex were critical of Trump. The tides are
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  Speaker 3: turning in this country. You can redraw the maps today,
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  Speaker 3: but guess what happens. It's written in pencil, So the
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  Speaker 3: Democrats they're just going to come back and redraw all
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  Speaker 3: of it, and then Republicans who are fighting for this now,
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  Speaker 3: they're going to be so upset they're gonna be crying.
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  Speaker 3: How could they do this? The stuff you claim that
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  Speaker 3: people are doing now is going to be ten times
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  Speaker 3: worse when Democrats really start to redraw some stuff once
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  Speaker 3: they get back in office and get back in power.
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  Speaker 3: Because the way things are going in this country right now,
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  Speaker 3: all this talk about Jerry mandering is just a smoke screen,
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  Speaker 3: it's smoking mirrors. It's a bunch of bs, because I
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  Speaker 3: know what's going on the Republicans, and the Republicans are desperate.
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  Speaker 3: They see that MAGA is falling, It's on its last legs,
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  Speaker 3: and this is one of the last opportunities for traditional
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  Speaker 3: Republicans who aren't MAGA but have been bowing and you know,
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  Speaker 3: riding the gravy train. They're trying to figure out a
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  Speaker 3: way how can we keep some sembilus of what we
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  Speaker 3: used to have before Trump. I know how we can
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  Speaker 3: do it. List we draw the maps. But it's not
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  Speaker 3: gonna work. I've seen it. I've seen you and Alex
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  Speaker 3: turn on MAGA. It's gonna be a bludsheedle.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna let him? Are you gonna let him speak
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  Speaker 1: for you like that? We did not turn on MAGA.
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  Speaker 1: We just took and I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't think we always be Trump. I think we just
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  Speaker 2: hold them accountable when we need to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just we were just criticizing one particular aspect
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  Speaker 1: of policy.
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  Speaker 2: But the fact that the and I think the Democrats
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  Speaker 2: do more, the fact that they think they can just
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  Speaker 2: draw the lines to include twelve thousand counties. That's the
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  Speaker 2: part that gets me murder is that at least the
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  Speaker 2: Republicans are a little more modest about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know why, because the Democrats are desperate,
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  Speaker 1: that's for sure. Now, let's be honest. If Aliens landed
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow and asked how America chooses its leaders, we'd have
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  Speaker 1: to explain. We draw maps, then we argue about the maps.
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  Speaker 1: Then we sue each other over the maps. Then we
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  Speaker 1: we draw the maps again, then we argue over the
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  Speaker 1: new maps, then we sue each other again. Then we
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  Speaker 1: hold election based on whichever map survived the lawsuits, and
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  Speaker 1: then we start over. Murt that's not a system. That's
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  Speaker 1: a hobby, and it's a dysfunctional one at best. If
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  Speaker 1: you want to describe it. And the shapes, some justtrict
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  Speaker 1: look like salamanders. You called it spaghetti. Some look like
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  Speaker 1: broken umbrella umbrellas. Some look like a toddler who tried
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  Speaker 1: to draw a unicorm while writing in the backseat of
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  Speaker 1: a jeep. This whole thing is gross. It's grotesque. It
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  Speaker 1: has to stop. And I'm surprised you're not that you're
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  Speaker 1: not u in protesting over this.
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  Speaker 3: No, because I support it, because I.
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  Speaker 1: See what're indignation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's support it because I know what's going to
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  Speaker 3: happen the Republicans there. They feel like this is a
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  Speaker 3: victory right now, but it's going to blow up in
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  Speaker 3: their face and there's gonna have to be a new
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  Speaker 3: era of Republicans who can't be traditional and be anti
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  Speaker 3: this and anti that, and let's go back to how
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  Speaker 3: things used to be. It will be no more make
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  Speaker 3: America great again, which I have no problem with if
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  Speaker 3: you want America to go back to it.
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  Speaker 1: You know what you notice Alex that he's focusing on
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  Speaker 1: the Republicans and it's not saying a word about his
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  Speaker 1: comrades who are turning socialists and returning communists. Notice how
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  Speaker 1: he's quiet about the Democrats who are Demo.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I'm citing that. I'm talking about the Democrats
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  Speaker 2: side because I think if you look at the counties
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  Speaker 2: that the Demo Crawds want a lot of people in
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  Speaker 2: those counties probably are like, no, no, we don't want this.
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  Speaker 2: That's why Lucas is saying there are lawsuits in Virginia
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  Speaker 2: right now as we speak.
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  Speaker 1: The little soul over the country.
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  Speaker 3: I mean to do with this, Alex Listen, I didn't
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  Speaker 3: go to school for jerry mandering and redrawing districts and
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  Speaker 3: all that stuff. So you guys can act like you
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  Speaker 3: are the guys who are masters. I'll let you get away.
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  Speaker 3: You probably know ten times as much as I do.
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  Speaker 3: But I have the real knowledge, the real knowledge. What's
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  Speaker 3: really important is understanding. Anytime you start to invoke the
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  Speaker 3: law to change the law, it's desperation. This is all desperation.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to Democrats are certainly desperate, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 3: No, they're retaliating. I heard about the Republicans doing all
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  Speaker 3: this noncess and then the Democrats and retaliation are trying
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  Speaker 3: to camocrafts.
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  Speaker 1: Are disarray because I don't think they know who they
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  Speaker 1: are anymore. Look, America is a nation of three hundred
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  Speaker 1: and thirty million people murdered. We have super comp we
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  Speaker 1: have satellites, we have AI, we have GPS systems that
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  Speaker 1: can tell you the exact location of your AirPod, and
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  Speaker 1: yet we cannot draw a conditional congressional district without triggering
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  Speaker 1: a constitutional crisis. And that, my friends, is the joke.
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  Speaker 1: That's the satire, and that's the strategy. That's the tragedy.
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  Speaker 1: Here and that's why this story matters. Because behind the humor,
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  Speaker 1: behind the absurdity, behind the salamander shaped districts and the
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  Speaker 1: lawsuits and the quotes, is a simple truth. If you
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  Speaker 1: control the map, you control the country. And right now,
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  Speaker 1: both parties are fighting over the pen and we, the
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  Speaker 1: American people, may end up coming out the losers. You
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  Speaker 1: want to know something else we don't have to fight about.
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  Speaker 1: This is episode ninety five of Shake It Off with
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  Speaker 1: Merton Lucas Live. This is Lucas Ferrara with me in
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  Speaker 1: the studio at AM nine seventy located in the heart
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  Speaker 1: of the financial district in downtown Manhattan. Is my co host,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: mister rabbit Hole Roberts. He's also affectionately known as the Mardinator,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: working the board another other than Alex Garrett. He's got
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  Speaker 1: a five star rated podcast, one Leg Up with Alex Garrett.
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  Speaker 1: forget Ermin Santos, who is back in Master Control. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you Amine. When we come back, we'll be joined by
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  Speaker 1: doctor Jared Cooney Horvath. He's the author of Digital Delusion
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  Speaker 1: and he'll cut through the digital delusions the way most
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  Speaker 1: Because after the break, doctor Horvath will be bringing the
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  Speaker 2: All right, stay tuned for part two on redistricting, with
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  Speaker 2: a clip from the Arthur DLA Power Hour, and then
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  Speaker 2: an interview with Tom Joseph of the Main Street Party