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- 0:00Speaker 1: She is the hostess with the mostest on the ACC Network,
- 0:03Speaker 1: whether it's ACC Huddle or all over the place, including
- 0:07Speaker 1: the ACC tip-off coverage here in Charlotte this week. And
- 0:11Speaker 1: she is now here with us to talk some ACC football.
- 0:14Speaker 1: Taylor Tannenbaum, ACC Network, joins us on the Mac and
- 0:18Speaker 1: Bone Show. Taylor, how have you been? What's going on?
- 0:21Speaker 2: Hello, boys.
- 0:22Speaker 3: I've been great. It's been an awesome week. Weeks full
- 0:26Speaker 3: of all the things, and always great to be back
- 0:29Speaker 3: in Charlotte, but obviously it's short-lived because we are hopping
- 0:31Speaker 3: on a plane and heading to Pittsburgh today.
- 0:33Speaker 2: I like it.
- 0:34Speaker 1: We talked about that game last hour, and I don't
- 0:38Speaker 1: know how many Tar Heel fans are with us on this,
- 0:40Speaker 1: but we really believe backup QB making a first start
- 0:44Speaker 1: for Pitt. Pitt had an emotional win last week, and
- 0:47Speaker 1: Caroline is clearly more competitive. I can see a path
- 0:52Speaker 1: to an upset for UNC. How do you feel about that?
- 0:55Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean, when a team loses its starting quarterback,
- 0:58Speaker 3: that shifts a little bit of everything. Holding Garner is
- 1:03Speaker 3: an inexperienced quarterback. This will be his first career start, right?
- 1:07Speaker 3: But he's been around the block. He's played at Auburn,
- 1:10Speaker 3: Texas State, so he's seen a lot of ball, but
- 1:12Speaker 3: I don't know how much live ball with the ones
- 1:16Speaker 3: against a team like Carolina that he's seen, right? So
- 1:20Speaker 3: if you stick the dogs on him, You never know
- 1:23Speaker 3: what could possibly happen. And then it becomes a low
- 1:26Speaker 3: scoring affair. And if you're like Carolina last week, you
- 1:30Speaker 3: special teams, use your defense to try to generate some
- 1:33Speaker 3: points because offensively for Carolina, while it's been okay, I
- 1:37Speaker 3: don't know how great they could fare against this pit
- 1:42Speaker 3: defense who will always keep the Panthers in the football game.
- 1:44Speaker 3: Like no question about it. But when you lose a
- 1:48Speaker 3: starting quarterback, yes, to your point, that's grounds for you
- 1:51Speaker 3: to believe that Carolina can certainly pull this off on
- 1:53Speaker 3: the road.
- 1:55Speaker 4: Taylor, another huge game we can't wait to see on
- 1:57Speaker 4: Saturday is Wake and NC State. Let's start with the
- 2:01Speaker 4: Wake side of things. How impressed have you been with
- 2:04Speaker 4: Jake Dickert through a year and now some change into
- 2:08Speaker 4: this year, a month in? And what is it that
- 2:10Speaker 4: just makes his style work with Wake Forest where it's
- 2:14Speaker 4: not always easy to win there like he is right now?
- 2:17Speaker 3: Yeah, most wins by a head coach in Wake Forest
- 2:19Speaker 3: history in his first two years. Nine wins last year
- 2:23Speaker 3: and well on their way to the sky's the limit,
- 2:26Speaker 3: to be honest with you, at this point this year.
- 2:28Speaker 3: I just think he has guys playing hard, man. And
- 2:33Speaker 3: part of being a head coach is putting people in
- 2:36Speaker 3: position to succeed. He's hired the correct coordinators. and Scotty
- 2:41Speaker 3: Hazleton on one side defensively, which that defense is legit.
- 2:45Speaker 3: If you ask any of our guys, our analysts, Eddie Royal,
- 2:48Speaker 3: Eric McLean, Jimbo Fisher, they're so impressed, especially what they
- 2:52Speaker 3: do with that defensive front. They will confuse the heck
- 2:55Speaker 3: out of you. And then offensively with Robbie Zell and
- 2:57Speaker 3: pairing him with a quarterback that he had a ton
- 3:00Speaker 3: of success with at South Alabama. Once again, it's been
- 3:03Speaker 3: a match made in heaven. And then they have found
- 3:05Speaker 3: some pieces playmaker wise that have really stepped up to
- 3:11Speaker 3: the plate and Carlos Hernandez and this young big receiver
- 3:14Speaker 3: and Jack Foley like they've got some dudes and while
- 3:17Speaker 3: they may not be big name guys like they play
- 3:20Speaker 3: their role to perfection and they execute and he has
- 3:23Speaker 3: them believing like strip the name off the jersey like
- 3:26Speaker 3: this football team is legit and for whatever reason throughout
- 3:29Speaker 3: the years like even when Dave Clawson was there beyond
- 3:32Speaker 3: that Wake Forest just doesn't get the love it deserves
- 3:34Speaker 3: for certainly overproducing for what they have on the table.
- 3:38Speaker 3: And once again, that we're seeing that this year and
- 3:40Speaker 3: it's pissing me off to no end, but if they
- 3:42Speaker 3: just keep winning, hopefully everything takes care of itself. I
- 3:45Speaker 3: know if you follow me on Twitter, you know, like
- 3:47Speaker 3: I'm enraged about the wake forest Duke conversation. Um, They
- 3:52Speaker 3: should be ranked and talked about more highly. But I
- 3:55Speaker 3: just love what Jake Dickard is doing there in Winston-Salem.
- 3:58Speaker 2: I didn't even have to bring this up.
- 4:00Speaker 1: I was going to tell you that my favorite version
- 4:03Speaker 1: of you, Taylor Tannenbaum, is Feisty Taylor. I just love it.
- 4:08Speaker 1: I love the way that you stand up because somebody's
- 4:11Speaker 1: got to do it, right? Like there are plenty of
- 4:12Speaker 1: people to stand up for the 11th SEC.
- 4:15Speaker 2: Team to be ranked. So I'm glad that you are
- 4:18Speaker 2: out there to do that.
- 4:19Speaker 1: And yeah, I really think the performance by Wake against Miami, I.
- 4:25Speaker 2: Think it opened some eyes nationally, but apparently not enough.
- 4:29Speaker 3: You know, apparently not enough. And look, the SEC is great.
- 4:32Speaker 3: Do not get me wrong. I covered that league for years.
- 4:34Speaker 3: Like they're, they are unmatched when it comes to certainly recruiting.
- 4:39Speaker 3: And then also just environment. Like there's, it's second to none.
- 4:42Speaker 3: Like you are never going to win a debate, lose
- 4:46Speaker 3: a debate on that. Like, I understand that's where that
- 4:48Speaker 3: comes from, but that doesn't mean it can detract from
- 4:51Speaker 3: some of the quality of the teams in the ACC and,
- 4:54Speaker 3: And my problem is if you're going to rank some
- 4:56Speaker 3: of these teams the way that you are, you cannot
- 4:58Speaker 3: not be ranking Wake and Duke. It's not logical, and
- 5:03Speaker 3: it's negligence, and you need to be paying better attention.
- 5:06Speaker 3: And I understand AP poll voters have a lot to
- 5:09Speaker 3: look at, and I'm not calling everybody out. There are
- 5:11Speaker 3: some incredible voters out there who, if you look at
- 5:14Speaker 3: their ballots, are absolutely correct, and they watch a lot
- 5:16Speaker 3: of tape and a lot of live ball to know
- 5:18Speaker 3: what they're talking about. But there's ones out there who just, like,
- 5:21Speaker 3: I feel like they're granted the right to do this,
- 5:23Speaker 3: and it's a responsibility. It's not just a right. And
- 5:26Speaker 3: the people who I know, my friend Mark Packer is
- 5:28Speaker 3: one of them, who says the AP poll doesn't matter.
- 5:30Speaker 3: I have talked to several head coaches currently, and I
- 5:33Speaker 3: ask genuinely speaking, does this not matter? They'll stand up
- 5:36Speaker 3: at a podium and be like, we don't care about
- 5:38Speaker 3: the ranking. Peel back the curtain. It does matter. Multiple coaches.
- 5:43Speaker 3: I've talked to two in the last two weeks. who
- 5:45Speaker 3: have told me it does matter in terms of internally
- 5:48Speaker 3: that your message is being received and everything that's happening
- 5:51Speaker 3: on the football field for these young men, it's justification
- 5:56Speaker 3: that what they're doing is the right thing. It's also
- 5:59Speaker 3: in recruiting, especially in this day and age when maybe
- 6:01Speaker 3: you may be a team with a name like Wake
- 6:04Speaker 3: Forest or Duke and it doesn't resonate as well. If
- 6:06Speaker 3: you have a number next to your name, it does
- 6:07Speaker 3: resonate with high schoolers. And just, you know, when you've
- 6:12Speaker 3: been working so hard at something to not see it
- 6:15Speaker 3: come to fruition can be a little bit of a
- 6:17Speaker 3: dagger to the heart. And, you know, just validation is important.
- 6:21Speaker 3: So for people who say the AP poll doesn't matter,
- 6:24Speaker 3: I understand the CFP will come out later. But internally
- 6:27Speaker 3: within a program and with a head coach who's trying
- 6:29Speaker 3: to send a message and get his guys to do
- 6:31Speaker 3: what he wants them to do, it does matter.
- 6:34Speaker 4: Wake played a Friday night game against Miami where the
- 6:37Speaker 4: eyes of the college football world, because of that spot,
- 6:40Speaker 4: were largely on Wake Forest. If you watch that game closely,
- 6:43Speaker 4: it actually– paid attention wake forest pushed miami as far
- 6:48Speaker 4: as anybody has this year so it's crazy to think
- 6:51Speaker 4: for how good as wake is their best performance and
- 6:53Speaker 4: their most notable thing of why they should be ranked
- 6:56Speaker 4: taylor as you know is how well they fought and
- 6:58Speaker 4: played against miami and they don't get credit for that
- 7:00Speaker 4: though yeah.
- 7:02Speaker 3: No and apparently people people love a good loss and
- 7:05Speaker 3: it's losing to the number four team in the country
- 7:07Speaker 3: by 13 points granted if you watched With your own
- 7:10Speaker 3: two eyes, there were multiple chances in that fourth quarter.
- 7:12Speaker 3: There was a drop in the end zone on fourth
- 7:14Speaker 3: down that would have made it a one-score game, and
- 7:16Speaker 3: then we're having a completely different conversation. If you watched,
- 7:20Speaker 3: you would have seen, like, that is a great loss
- 7:22Speaker 3: to the number four team in the country where it
- 7:24Speaker 3: wasn't just a 13-point loss. It was potentially a one-score
- 7:28Speaker 3: game at times in that fourth quarter. So I'm with you.
- 7:31Speaker 3: You don't want to get me wound up. Finally, Ashley
- 7:33Speaker 3: Strohlein just walked in the car. We are going to
- 7:35Speaker 3: a workout right now.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Oh, she texted us.
- 7:38Speaker 2: How about this? Hey, look, there's our Tuesday guest. How
- 7:42Speaker 2: many Mac and Bone guests can we get in the
- 7:44Speaker 2: same car?
- 7:45Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness.
- 7:46Speaker 2: Are you guys meeting us for this workout? Is that
- 7:48Speaker 2: what I heard? Yeah, be right over.
- 7:49Speaker 1: Be right over.
- 7:50Speaker 2: We didn't schedule it during our workout window. What is
- 7:54Speaker 2: that window, Bone? Window is... Never to never. Later on today.
- 7:59Speaker 1: All right, let's see here. This threw a strong loop here.
- 8:03Speaker 1: We got a party going on.
- 8:04Speaker 4: Stro, you know the deal. Don't say where you're working out, though.
- 8:06Speaker 4: It's because our texters might show up.
- 8:08Speaker 3: No, absolutely not.
- 8:13Speaker 1: Some of y'all out there, yeah, some of y'all out there,
- 8:16Speaker 1: we do not want y'all knowing this damn address.
- 8:17Speaker 2: That would involve our texters knowing where the gym is also.
- 8:19Speaker 1: Some of y'all have issues out there. So, Taylor, what
- 8:23Speaker 1: do you think? We're talking all about Wake and giving
- 8:25Speaker 1: them flowers. I love the way C.J. Bailey's playing. I
- 8:28Speaker 1: love the way he's responded from the complete mess of
- 8:33Speaker 1: the Vanderbilt play. And I love that State got that
- 8:36Speaker 1: win against Louisville. The problem is... They're so dang banged
- 8:40Speaker 1: up as you know, Taylor on the offensive line, Duke Scott.
- 8:44Speaker 1: So like, how do you feel about that game in
- 8:46Speaker 1: Raleigh on Saturday?
- 8:48Speaker 3: You know, I thought Davion Goss came in and did
- 8:50Speaker 3: a great job and not the dude who can, can
- 8:53Speaker 3: carry the load. It's just been Duke Scott's role at
- 8:55Speaker 3: that running back position. So I anticipate he'll step right
- 8:58Speaker 3: in and, and pick up where Duke Scott can't be
- 9:02Speaker 3: because he's obviously out for this game, um, per the
- 9:05Speaker 3: report that just came out. I love the way they're playing.
- 9:08Speaker 3: There's always an opportunity. For whatever reason, they've had success.
- 9:13Speaker 3: They've had success in the scenario. Obviously, Wake is in
- 9:15Speaker 3: a different place right now, and they're feeling good. Like, there's...
- 9:19Speaker 3: You know, we can say what we want externally, you guys,
- 9:22Speaker 3: and rag on them all we want for the fumble
- 9:24Speaker 3: in the end zone. But, like, clearly what Dave Doran
- 9:27Speaker 3: has internally is working. And they have completely turned the page.
- 9:31Speaker 3: You almost forget about what happened at that point. The
- 9:33Speaker 3: win over Louisville was great. But, like, I would love
- 9:36Speaker 3: you guys if they could just, like, close a game.
- 9:39Speaker 3: It would be really awesome if they could just not
- 9:42Speaker 3: take it to the final second of the fourth quarter
- 9:44Speaker 3: like one time this season. I'm not so sure that's
- 9:47Speaker 3: what it's going to be just because the way that
- 9:49Speaker 3: they're built. But you always have a chance when you
- 9:52Speaker 3: have C.J.
- 9:52Speaker 4: Bailey.
- 9:52Speaker 3: And like you just said, credit to him, man. He
- 9:55Speaker 3: could have went one direction or the other and he
- 9:57Speaker 3: chose the right one. And we've been saying he's an
- 10:00Speaker 3: NFL talent, right? And he wanted to stay in Raleigh,
- 10:03Speaker 3: and it's for reasons like this. Like, you can rag
- 10:06Speaker 3: on him, but everything's still ahead. This league is crazy.
- 10:09Speaker 3: And a one loss in conference play at this point
- 10:13Speaker 3: means you still have a shot at Charlotte. So why
- 10:15Speaker 3: not NC State?
- 10:16Speaker 4: Why not? Okay, I like it. I'm having to explain
- 10:19Speaker 4: to texters that you and Stro are friends. Someone thinks
- 10:22Speaker 4: that Stro was hitchhiking and you happened to see her
- 10:24Speaker 4: and she jumped in the car.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Let's go with that. It was planned.
- 10:28Speaker 1: It was a planned ride. Stro wasn't like, hey, give
- 10:30Speaker 1: me a ride. And Taylor was like, all right, come
- 10:32Speaker 1: on in. You guys planned this out. That story is juicier.
- 10:35Speaker 1: This texter says these two ladies headed to work out
- 10:39Speaker 1: just furthermore embarrasses your lack of general activity.
- 10:44Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to argue with that. Is anybody
- 10:46Speaker 2: surprised that they are more fit than we are, more
- 10:48Speaker 2: active than we are? We're working right now. We can't
- 10:50Speaker 2: work out and work at the same– we're doing something here.
- 10:54Speaker 2: You're a little busy.
- 10:55Speaker 3: That's fair.
- 10:55Speaker 1: That's our excuse. And later it's nap time, Taylor, all right?
- 10:58Speaker 1: That's my excuse for later on. We got you next year.
- 11:00Speaker 2: All right, Taylor. Hey, good to talk with you.
- 11:02Speaker 1: I'm glad we did get a little peek at Feisty Taylor.
- 11:06Speaker 2: I want you to keep that up.
- 11:07Speaker 1: The ACC needs ambassadors like you and EMAC and the
- 11:10Speaker 1: whole crew fighting a good fight.
- 11:12Speaker 2: We appreciate it. Have a good workout. Thank you, Taylor.
- 11:15Speaker 2: Appreciate it.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 11:16Speaker 3: And I promise next time I'm here, I'm in the studio.
- 11:19Speaker 2: Okay, definitely. Yeah, we got to do that. We got
- 11:20Speaker 2: to do that. Let us know. I'll bring Murphy in
- 11:22Speaker 2: to meet you.
- 11:24Speaker 1: Perfect.
- 11:24Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
- 11:25Speaker 3: That would be bright in my day. I'll talk to
- 11:27Speaker 3: you guys soon. Have a good workout later.
- 11:28Speaker 2: Bye. All right. Be good. Have a good workout later.