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Preparing for Spring and Expert Painting Tips with Mike Cherry · Repcolite Home Improvement Show

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  Speaker 1: Well, good morning everybody. Good morning. You're listening to the
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  Speaker 1: repcell like home improvement show sponsored by Benjamin Moore. And
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  Speaker 1: before I get into the show today, I gotta tell
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  Speaker 1: you I saw something this past week. Two different times.
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  Speaker 1: I saw two different people who are so inspiringly, inspiringly,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm trying to say, optimistic. Do you
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  Speaker 1: know what they were doing that made me think that
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  Speaker 1: they were preparing their snowblowers for storage. Yeah, they were
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  Speaker 1: running the gas out of the machines and then getting
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  Speaker 1: them all shut down until next winter. Now, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know about that. You know, we've had some wonderful weather.
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  Speaker 1: I get that, and I sincerely hope that I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 1: But I can't think of a spring break, you know,
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  Speaker 1: on April spring break for the kids in you know,
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  Speaker 1: elementary through high school normally that's first week of April.
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  Speaker 1: I can't think of a spring break that didn't involve snow. Now, certainly,
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  Speaker 1: certainly we maybe won't get enough snow to need a snowblower,
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe that's what they're thinking. You know, that
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  Speaker 1: won't happen this late in the season, right, that's impossible
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  Speaker 1: for us to get that much snow. We can just
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  Speaker 1: shovel what comes right. Well, I was assuming that. I
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  Speaker 1: assumed that's what these these two people were thinking. And
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  Speaker 1: then I did a little googling and I found this
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  Speaker 1: interesting little fact from one stinking year ago. I don't
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  Speaker 1: even remember this, I have blocked it out, but one
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  Speaker 1: year ago in West Michigan, here's the headline from the
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  Speaker 1: story record snowfall across West Michigan. On Friday, East Grand
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  Speaker 1: Rapids received eight point three inches of snow. And that
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  Speaker 1: was from March twenty two of twenty twenty four. So
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  Speaker 1: when I read that fun little fact, I did a
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  Speaker 1: little more digging into my own personal records. And guess what.
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  Speaker 1: I put my snowblower away for the season last year,
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  Speaker 1: the week before that record snowfall. Coincidence, Oh, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think so, there are no such things. So this year,
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  Speaker 1: to help us all avoid that late season snowfall, I'm
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  Speaker 1: keeping my snowblower gassed up and ready to go. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not superstitious, but I'm thinking if I do that,
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  Speaker 1: that's going to keep the snow away, right, So do
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  Speaker 1: with it what you want. Don't forget, though, to run
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  Speaker 1: the fuel out of your snowblower before you store it,
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  Speaker 1: or add fuel stabilizer, you know, whichever route you go,
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  Speaker 1: just make sure that when you do that Winter's done.
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  Speaker 1: Don't spit in Winter's face. Winter doesn't like that. Just
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  Speaker 1: wait until we're sure that he's gone for the year.
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  Speaker 1: Then make sure you remember to prepare your equipment for storage.
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  Speaker 1: All right, That's enough of that. On the show today,
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  Speaker 1: I've got an interview that I recorded with Mike Cherry,
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  Speaker 1: the owner of Cherry Painting, and I'm going to air
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  Speaker 1: a portion of that full conversation, and there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of ground. We cover everything from how Mike got started
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  Speaker 1: in the business, to his favorite tips and tricks, to
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  Speaker 1: some of his favorite concerts. He's a music buff and
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  Speaker 1: we're going to get into all kinds of interesting things
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  Speaker 1: in that conversation that's coming up now. In the last
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  Speaker 1: little bit that I've got here in this opening segment,
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  Speaker 1: I want to continue trying to demystify demystify the roller
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  Speaker 1: cover aisle. Last week, we talked about the best roller
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  Speaker 1: covers to use on common surfaces. This week, let's look
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  Speaker 1: at the different nap thicknesses, which is just a fancy
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  Speaker 1: way of saying how thick and fluffy the roller cover
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  Speaker 1: is you know which one's the right one to choose
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  Speaker 1: for your project. Well, let's look at it more closely
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  Speaker 1: and see, all right, the three sixteenth inch nap it's
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  Speaker 1: basically a super short nap and it's great for glossy
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  Speaker 1: finishes where you want as little texture, little roller texture
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  Speaker 1: as possible. But here's the catch. It doesn't hold very
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  Speaker 1: much paint at all. So unless you've got a specific reason,
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  Speaker 1: you're probably not going to want to use this for walls,
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  Speaker 1: so potentially cabinets, doors, situations like that. But if you
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  Speaker 1: listened last week, you remember that I talked about Wooster's
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  Speaker 1: microplush covers. Those microplush covers are thicker naps than the
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  Speaker 1: three sixteenth snap that we're talking about here, but the
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  Speaker 1: fibers are so densely packed that those are pretty much
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  Speaker 1: our go to recommendations when it comes to things like
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  Speaker 1: cabinet's doors, and so three sixteen cs inch nap covers
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  Speaker 1: they're seeing a little less use these days, but still
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  Speaker 1: they're out there, and now you know why you'd use one. Now,
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  Speaker 1: next up, we've got a three eighths inch nap. Now,
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  Speaker 1: if you're painting walls, this is pretty much your go to.
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  Speaker 1: It holds a good amount of paint, it applies it evenly,
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  Speaker 1: and it keeps lap lines to a minimum. Basically, it
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  Speaker 1: helps you work efficiently without creating a textured finish. That's
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  Speaker 1: the three eighths inch nap your go to for walls.
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  Speaker 1: Now half inch nap. If you're painting a textured ceiling,
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  Speaker 1: a rough wall, brick, even block wall in a basement,
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  Speaker 1: you need something thicker than those three eighths inch nap
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  Speaker 1: covers and that's where this half inch nap comes in.
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  Speaker 1: It carries more product and helps you get into those
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  Speaker 1: nooks and crannies much easier. Now, the last one we'll
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  Speaker 1: look at are the three quarter inch nap covers and thicker.
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  Speaker 1: If you're painting extra rough surfaces, stucco, brick, exteriors, super
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  Speaker 1: uneven surfaces, this is where you'd probably use one of these.
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  Speaker 1: So how do you choose which is right for you
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  Speaker 1: for your project? Well, here's the general rule. Use the
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  Speaker 1: shortest snap that will work for what you're doing. You know,
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  Speaker 1: don't go thicker unless you actually need it. And again,
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  Speaker 1: if you're not sure, just ask us and remember Wooster
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  Speaker 1: prodocy FTP roller covers are on sale at a great
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  Speaker 1: price for the rest of the month at Repcolite. So
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  Speaker 1: if you're a painting contractor, it's perfect time to stock
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  Speaker 1: up on high quality supplies at a really good discount.
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  Speaker 1: If you're a di wire, even if you don't have
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  Speaker 1: a paint project lined up right now, grabbing a few
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  Speaker 1: premium roller covers is a really smart move. When the
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  Speaker 1: next painting project does come up, whether it's planned or unexpected,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes those pop up. When that happens, you'll be ready
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  Speaker 1: with top tier tools. You know you're not gonna be
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  Speaker 1: scrambling or settling for lower quality options. You'll have good
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  Speaker 1: covers waiting to go. And remember we talked about it
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  Speaker 1: last week. A cheap or inferior roller cover can make
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  Speaker 1: the best paint, the most expensive paint in the world,
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  Speaker 1: look bad. The cover is definitely not the place to
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  Speaker 1: skimp to save a few bucks. All right, let's take
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  Speaker 1: a break. When we come back, I'll be chatting with
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  Speaker 1: Mike Cherry from Cherry Painting. That's next stick around. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: back to the Repcolite Home improvement show sponsored by Benjamin Moore.
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  Speaker 1: And right now I've got something new that I've been
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  Speaker 1: working on for a while on a daily basis. At Repcolite,
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  Speaker 1: we work with some of the best painting contractors in
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  Speaker 1: the industry, and from time to time I've had a
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  Speaker 1: few of them on the show here. But moving forward,
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  Speaker 1: you know, into this year, twenty twenty five, I want
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  Speaker 1: to shift gears a little bit and I want to
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  Speaker 1: use the radio show to shine a spotlight on many
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  Speaker 1: of these painting companies as many as I can connect with.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a really good way that we can
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  Speaker 1: say thank you to them. You know that Repcollite can
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  Speaker 1: say thank you to them by just sitting down and
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  Speaker 1: talking with them and letting them tell their story to
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  Speaker 1: a large audience. You know. So that's really good. But
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  Speaker 1: it's also really good for you as listeners. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you can use these spotlight interviews that I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: be playing throughout the year, not every week, but throughout
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  Speaker 1: the year, use them as an opportunity to conduct your
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  Speaker 1: own interviews of these contractors. You know, unless you've got
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  Speaker 1: a painting contractor that you've worked with in the past,
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  Speaker 1: can be a little daunting to try to find the
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  Speaker 1: right company to hire the next time you need some
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  Speaker 1: painting done. These interviews and discussions should really help you
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  Speaker 1: determine which companies you find yourself connecting with. It's a
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  Speaker 1: long form discussion and by the end you're really going
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  Speaker 1: to have a good idea of who each company is,
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  Speaker 1: who each person is, how they work, and if they
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  Speaker 1: could be the right company to hire the next time
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  Speaker 1: you need some painting done. All right, With all of
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  Speaker 1: that said, today's interview is with Mike Cherry, the owner
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  Speaker 1: of Cherry Painting, and if you like what you hear,
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  Speaker 1: there's plenty more, a whole lot more. You can catch
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  Speaker 1: the full interview on our YouTube series The Interviews. Just
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  Speaker 1: had to reptollites YouTube page and check it out. All right,
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  Speaker 1: that's enough of that. Let's jump into my conversation with
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  Speaker 1: Mike Cherry from Cherry Painting. All right, let's start at
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  Speaker 1: the beginning. You know, your dad, I know, played a
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  Speaker 1: role in you becoming a painter.
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  Speaker 2: Still plays it, still still play, still plays the role
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  Speaker 2: of I would whatever chief executor. He's pretty on call
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  Speaker 2: all the time. You know, I got a question here
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  Speaker 2: and there and what they did. And you know, obviously
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  Speaker 2: paints advanced in the last since he started back in
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  Speaker 2: the late seventies.
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  Speaker 1: Because he was doing this.
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  Speaker 2: First, he went on the side. Yep, he did on
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  Speaker 2: the side with a friend of his. They were doing
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  Speaker 2: some suburban Detroit stuff, Milford area, Waterford Mott Now all
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  Speaker 2: that area that was developing is still developing now, but
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  Speaker 2: really developing back in the late seventies early eighties boom.
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  Speaker 2: So they were going subdivision and subdivision young kids. My
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  Speaker 2: dad was an eighteen year old kid, I believe at
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  Speaker 2: the time, seventeen eighteen and just working on a crew
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  Speaker 2: that his friend's brother started. Okay, went on to get
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  Speaker 2: a degree he was doing. He taught for thirty five
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  Speaker 2: thirty six years at what level. He was a high
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  Speaker 2: school so.
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  Speaker 1: He was high school teaching. In the summers, he's painting, correct,
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  Speaker 1: real common we see.
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  Speaker 2: A lot yep, yep that And I see wrote construction
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  Speaker 2: guys doing some of that too. They come in and
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  Speaker 2: they'll paint in the winter time when they're off. So
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, anyway, he's he did that for my whole life.
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  Speaker 2: I'm thirty, just turn thirty two. So as long as
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  Speaker 2: I've known my dad, he's painted in the summertime. So
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  Speaker 2: enjoyed it. I hated it. I actually absolutely hated it.
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  Speaker 1: So when did you start with him?
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  Speaker 2: So I was probably fourteen thirteen, fourteen years old. He
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  Speaker 2: was really good. My brother and I were really active
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  Speaker 2: in sports. So my brother went on to be a
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  Speaker 2: coylege athlete and running and stuff and all American and
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  Speaker 2: all that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: People would have to be chasing me to get me.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's what everybody's then I have to pay. Sure
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  Speaker 1: it's really worth while.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, I'm glad one of us could do it, could
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  Speaker 2: do that. I was just not that, not gifted like that.
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  Speaker 2: So he's got a great job fifth grade position in
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  Speaker 2: Grand Haven. Now loves it.
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  Speaker 1: Your brother, yep, so he teaches as well.
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  Speaker 2: He teaches as well.
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  Speaker 1: My dad's still teaching.
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  Speaker 2: Dad retired three years. This will be three years in June.
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  Speaker 1: Brother teaches fifth grade.
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  Speaker 2: Fifth grade. Yep. His wife teaches. My aunt taught. My cousins.
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  Speaker 2: Both teach one in Utah, one in Shelby Heart Area.
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  Speaker 2: I actually it's my degree, got a degree in teaching.
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  Speaker 2: Long you know the day and backstory. He didn't really
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  Speaker 2: want us to like it, so in fact I hated it.
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  Speaker 1: Our mission accomplished that he did.
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  Speaker 2: He he made us hate it. We had not like
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  Speaker 2: super long, but ten hours as a fourteen year.
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  Speaker 1: Old kid feels like an eternity.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and we again, how many closets can you do it?
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  Speaker 2: Where he let us through closets? You know, that's about
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  Speaker 2: where he trusted us. But it was either running long,
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  Speaker 2: long hours or long long distances during the weekends and
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  Speaker 2: after school and then of course summer break. You don't
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  Speaker 2: want to get a job, then you better get good
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  Speaker 2: at something. So you know, now, all these years later,
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  Speaker 2: I am so blessed he took me in and had
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  Speaker 2: me do that with him.
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  Speaker 1: So how long did you do that with him? Until
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  Speaker 1: you decided off and on?
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't, like I said, I didn't really like it,
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  Speaker 2: And like again, how many closets can you do to
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  Speaker 2: where you go, Wow, this where am I going to
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  Speaker 2: progress into the next thing? I didn't know how.
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  Speaker 1: You weren't looking at it as Okay, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: build this, know something you're looking for another?
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  Speaker 2: Not a chance? Not a chance. There was a goal
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  Speaker 2: for sure to get a degree in something. At that point,
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  Speaker 2: fourteen year old kid, I didn't know what I want
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  Speaker 2: to do. Sometimes I still don't know what I want
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  Speaker 2: to do. No, I uh, so we go go to
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  Speaker 2: went to high school, and and and finished really well
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  Speaker 2: in my class, and got a pretty good scholarship academically
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  Speaker 2: at Grand Valley State and then finished as with a teacher.
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  Speaker 2: I still liked teaching. It was just a matter of
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  Speaker 2: could I do this for thirty five plus years?
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  Speaker 1: So did you start teaching?
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  Speaker 2: Started teaching? Yep, I had a position I was as
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  Speaker 2: I was secondary AD as well social studies as my
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  Speaker 2: major in a history minor. I didn't become real first
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  Speaker 2: in picking my minor, but I just loved history. So
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  Speaker 2: I went, you know, did that want that whole route?
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  Speaker 2: And decided, like I did two years of long term
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  Speaker 2: sub positions, had a few full times across the state
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  Speaker 2: that had offers to go, and just didn't want to move.
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  Speaker 2: Liked it here. I had a longtime girlfriend at the time,
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  Speaker 2: and and I just did not want to go across
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  Speaker 2: the state. I love my family here, I love West Michigan.
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  Speaker 2: This is where I want to put down my roots. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, patients, right, patients, patients, And then I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: probably three years of just subbing all over in Oego County,
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  Speaker 2: Oceana County two, and I think I just got burnt
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  Speaker 2: out and I just wasn't sure. Academics was my thing.
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  Speaker 2: So what do you do now?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: What are you gonna do now? Son Gold and you
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  Speaker 2: got to pay this money back and YadA, YadA, YadA.
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  Speaker 2: And then COVID hits and we have the whole COVID
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  Speaker 2: deal and well you can don't have to pay your
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  Speaker 2: loans right now. And again long stories, but fall back
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  Speaker 2: on what was something I thought I hated was painting.
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  Speaker 2: So then the cash flow comes in and now you're
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  Speaker 2: now I'm eighteen at the time or nineteen, and going, well,
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  Speaker 2: I like that cash. Yeah, it's pretty pretty quick. And
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  Speaker 2: we were in and out and you know, we got
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  Speaker 2: a full home and repaint and just doing walls and
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  Speaker 2: so I like that money. And then it became the
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  Speaker 2: people starting to talk to people like not here, I'm coming,
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  Speaker 2: still working with your dad, still working with my dad, yep,
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  Speaker 2: but we're talking homeowners and you're starting to go to
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  Speaker 2: the trades. And I at this time I was pretty
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  Speaker 2: heavily into Sherwin Williams. I just had got into that
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  Speaker 2: that went that route, and you saw the light. I
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  Speaker 2: saw the light. Yeah, I had Aaron Van Dlson. I'll
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  Speaker 2: give him a shout out. He's my rep and and uh,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know where it was somewhere I was doing
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  Speaker 2: a house on like Michigan an exterior and Aaron van
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  Speaker 2: Dlson it gave me his card or something I can't remember,
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  Speaker 2: and hey, mind if I come out and take a
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  Speaker 2: look like salesmans do. Yeah, yeah, and uh been one
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  Speaker 2: of the best decisions I've made professionally, was that, right?
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  Speaker 1: There was what just letting him stop out and talk?
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  Speaker 2: Yep, yep?
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  Speaker 1: What was so good about that?
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  Speaker 2: Aaron's just a great guy in general, very approachable. He's
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's I think he I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: he feels like he felt found his calling. I hope
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  Speaker 2: he does, because that's he's got it. He's got the
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  Speaker 2: personal skills, the people skilled. Yeah. So that again, that
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  Speaker 2: was probably just it, not not really. I mean, to me,
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  Speaker 2: paint sometime is paint. But again, back to the people,
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  Speaker 2: Back to the people. I was getting another wrap every
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  Speaker 2: six months. Again say I'm so and so, Hey, I'm Bob,
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna hear your new seals. Well, what happened
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  Speaker 2: to Joe or filling the blank name? So I donet
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  Speaker 2: I didn't like that. I was really not into that
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  Speaker 2: game as much. So I get in with replight. I'm
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  Speaker 2: out of Miskeige in Port City.
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  Speaker 1: Abe, yeahy Roy.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think Roy's he's gonna outlive me. So we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna he's gonna keep going. And Abe and and Ryan
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  Speaker 2: up there, and Aaron and and Riley. It's it's just
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  Speaker 2: a good crew.
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  Speaker 1: So and it's steady. It's it's you know that they
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  Speaker 1: don't go away. No, we don't do have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of turnover. And I know that's such a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a lot of fun. I hope he continues. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: it's I'm not going anywhere. They're obviously not going anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: So when did you start off on your own or
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  Speaker 1: or you're yeah, or does your dad work for you? Now?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a he's pretty much retired. Occasionally he'll come out.
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  Speaker 2: He likes to prime. He likes to come out and
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  Speaker 2: prime runs a sprayer Sometimes. I like to get him
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  Speaker 2: a workout for back roll and ceilings. He liked to
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  Speaker 2: do that.
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  Speaker 1: I have him do some closets or something. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's on the tables.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, sure, yeah. We so we transitioned into that got
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  Speaker 2: really lucky. Dave douson Dan Custom Homes, where I've been
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  Speaker 2: the last probably three years, took a chance on me.
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  Speaker 2: So we and and my dad at the time, and
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  Speaker 2: and that blossomed into well, you know, going from bathrooms
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  Speaker 2: literally bathrooms and residential repaints of walls and ceilings, very
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  Speaker 2: little trim at that time, and it's been new construction
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  Speaker 2: ever since. I don't like parents paving paradise to put
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: up a parking lot. I don't like that, but I
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: do like the money.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: It's always that balance. Sure, how much can I tolerate?
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Sure enough?
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I My grandparents had a big and
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: before I was even around, had big swet land and
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: stuff that that's starting to develop, and you just you
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: hate to see that.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: But well you're not developing it, you're just making it
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: look good. Right, No, it's gonna be there anyway. It
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: might as well look good.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: I tell everybody, I look, I can't stop this from happening.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: I just got to go along for the ride. So
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: and again I'm blessed for that. So yeah, we we
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: just my dad's kind of transition out of I mean,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: he's just an elder, right, he's my dad. He's my
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: really between my dad and my brother and best friends.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: We never really got I mean, father's son get a
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: little heated when now your son is your cult boss,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: which I never like to, never ever want to experience.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: That sounds loaded.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: No, I never want to. And I hope my dad
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: never felt that way, Like I was watching over him
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: that kind of thing. He's the one that taught me.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Right, So there's no it is a weird dynamic.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: It's a very weird dynamic. How dude, is you know
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: teaching me to walk and talk?
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: And how do you get after your dad?
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah? How do you get off of your own? And
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: I think for me, it's just sometimes it's a speed thing,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: you know, It's like I want it done, you gotta
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: do it right. He knows to do it correct. But
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: now there's that fine line between speed and you know
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: how like how we Hey, I can't have you taken
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: two days to you know, fill your sale.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have to let you go.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Ah, Dad, I really don't want to have to let
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: you go here.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: But now that's awesome.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: No. So yeah, so he just kind of transitioned out
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: a little bit. He's he's enjoying his retirement's traveling quite
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: a bit he developed parkins He had Parkinson's diagnosed with Parkinson's.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: About man, this is probably year six now, okay, And
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: so I think that was a that's a very big
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: eye opener for all of us in our family. So
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: he's he's just loving. He lost both his folks last year.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four is a tough year for for us
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: as a family and him. Yeah, and it's his you know,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: So I I think he just I don't want to
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: say you don't you see that light demorin right, don't
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: want to say that, but I just you only have
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: so much time to do the things you want to do, right,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: And not that he doesn't want to play second hand
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: to his son in some house in Muskegon County, But boy,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of United States. There's a lot of
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: world out there to do.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: My dad had a heart attack, I don't know, three
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: years ago or so, and it was one of those things.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: He was so so healthy, you know, always doing something.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: He's hauling something out of the basement, a big piece
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: of furniture, you know. Yeah, because that's what he does.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: He just completely pushes himself beyond what's normal d do
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: passes out at the top of the steps, complete eye opener,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: open heart surgery, you know, and doing well again. But
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: it was that wake up call where you think, man,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: you take so much for granted, you know, especially when
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: your parents are clicking along just fine, right man, You
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: just don't know what's coming. You want to make the
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: most of what you've got.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: And I'm so glad he's able to do that.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and then we'll
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: get back to more of my interview with Mike Cherry
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: from Cherry Painting. Stick around and we're back. You're listening
• 19:02
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• 19:05
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• 19:07
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• 19:10
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• 19:13
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• 19:23
  Speaker 1: let's get back to Mike Cherry from Cherry Painting. Your
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: huge music guy, yeh yeah, concerts. You've seen everybody from
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: the Rolling Stones to Paul McCartney. Now see that's about
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: as big as it gets for me, what's been the
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: best concert experience that you've had?
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Well, because I said you mentioned that, I mentioned in
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: our interview the questionnaire you gave me so many. I'm
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: trying to think on my way here, even how many
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: had been to at the young and energetic age of
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: thirty two. Why is a thirty two year old loving
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: the Stones right or even Paul McCartney.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: And because they're all very good.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: They're all very very good, and I don't I guess again,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: my dad instilled in me or sometimes a lot of
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: people listen to their dad stuff too, or mom stuff
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: back in the my mom loves heart and you know
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: it's I love it too, you know, And I don't
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: know it never left me, and that that never ever left.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I kept listening classic rock. Step in any job site
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: and they're listening to some classic rock. There's a couple
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: of head bangers in there, and you know, occasionally we've
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: got some gospel going on over here, and it's different floors. Yeah,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: everybody's got their job site radio. Which Flora are you
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: on today? So I never have to bring my radio.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I never have to bring anything.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Because you can tolerate the music. The music whatever.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I love every one of them. You know, I've seen everything.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: You saw Chris Dawtrey, I mean Sawrey American Yeah, yeah, top.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I think he's tenth or something in American Idol.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: When did you see Paul McCartney, Oh.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Man, I must have been. He was in Grand Rapids.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: For those listening helped me out. They was ingrind right,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: I was in Grand rapp where I know, you know what,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: so many people have said that, like, I can't believe
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I didn't go, And you know who really wanted to
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: go most out of all this. My dad's a massive
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Beatles fan. My mom she wanted us to go as
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: a family. I was probably seventeen eighteen. Again, there's that
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: The date is on there somewhere, we can find it
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: on Google. But he came, and I think my mom
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: just said, well, he's never gonna come to Grand Rapids again.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: And of course I'm thinking, nah, he's probably gonna come
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: to Grand rap fan and it's pretty big, and I
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: think my mom was right. Yeah, I don't think he
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: will ever.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Did you all go as agree?
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: We all want my brother myself?
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Did she scream?
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Nope, she didn't scream as much. I think my dad
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: cried a little bit. Okay, I didn't. Yeah, yeah, I
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: don't think, uh, you know, I think I did, probably
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: cried her and let it be. I get my emotions
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: through my dad. It was just again something at the
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: time said, I listened to it my whole life. Well,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not a seventy year old man or a sixty
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: year old man or fifty year old man that had
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: listened to it his whole life. But I listened since
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: I was, you know, old enough to listen to music
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: ten years old or something that my dad would have
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Let it be right, you know, I've Yeah, the angels
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: came down. I think at that we're on sitting in
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: our row, probably just sitting in all of Banelreena so cool. Yeah.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: So whenever he was there, we just I just saw
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: the stones last summer, last June, I believe it was
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: down at Cleveland. So I went to the Rock and
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Roll Hall of Fame and did the saw the stones
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: and we had great seats. Another friend of a friend
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: of mine, another guy I painted his house, become really
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: good friends with. My dad was friends with We're going
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: to see the stones together. So it was him and
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: his son. My dad actually did have open heart surgery
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: that week, so he was not able to go. We
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: were all supposed to go. He was not good. You
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: had a triple bypass, totally unexpected. Obviously we're glad we
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: he caught that. Yeah, caught it before that could have
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: got really bad in there. Yeah, like you're mentioned, so
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: he wasn't able to go, but you know, we said,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: hopefully it comes around again. But yeah, so the stone
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Stevie Nicks a couple of times.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Anyone jump out at you is like that one.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, circle back around. Jackson Brown is my dad
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: and I favorite. Definitely was my dad's favorite and became
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: my favorite, probably because again because of my dad. We
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: love James Taylor and Jackson Brown. It was just those
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: are the two and they stuck. They've always stuck out
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: to me. That was probably my favorite. We saw them
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: third row at Vanandel. Jackson Brown actually opened for James Taylor.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: This is right after COVID masks.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I remember this, yep, And when it happened yep.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I had to have a mask on of course, and
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: it was just like maybe that was part of it too.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: We had all no no no, no, no no. Well,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I think we had all We couldn't do anything. Couldn't
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: even go to the get a burger, you know, downtown
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: or so a lot of that stuff we take for
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: granted now, Oh yeah, I hope hope people do not,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: but I did and we couldn't do it. And guess
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: what else we couldn't do? Go to concerts right full
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: of ten thousand people or whatever they fit at Van
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Andle So we had that right after COVID. So it
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: was just like sure, and then to have both your
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: guys right, both your guys you listened to that. My
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: dad listened to and learned to play guitar from those guys.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: That was probably my most important memory.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's really cool. So getting back to paints, Sure,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I'm curious you got a lot of people out there
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: listening di wires and stuff like that. We haven't talked
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: about this. I'm curious about just some practical ideas. You know,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: what's the number one you know, if you would think
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: of like rookie mistakes, Yeah, that people make that the
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: diires out there could be stumbling through and could probably
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: try to avoid.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Ah man, you know, I the advancements in paint itself
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: has gone way just since I have not been painting
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: as long as as many of you listening, and you
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: know way more than I do. You know, I just
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: think our tools are are huge, and I'll maybe think
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: of something as am. This's a great question anyway, frog tape,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: for example, Let's just go down there. Let's go down
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: just in our tools. There are painters that I know,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: and we won't mention that any of their names that
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: don't like frog tape, and I just don't understand it
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: or or don't want to spend the money for it,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: and we'll go with the original blue or so I
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: don't know, or some of you are there going, oh
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: my gosh, I can't believe you still use tape. What
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: do you mean those guys that don't. I can cut
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: straighter than nobody cut straighter than tape except me kind
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: of think.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Talk about so frog tape. First off, for anybody out
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: there who's not aware, it's just it's a special tape
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: that's got it's chemically altered so that when the water
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: from the water based paint hits the edge of the tape,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: it feels it yep. And if it's guaranteed or the
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: design it's designed to prevent that point paint bleed through.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: That's so frustrating.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: It happens. It's still going to happen. If your baseboards
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: are clean and you're taking a damp brag before your baseball,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: you know, before I'm sure dust settles on it. It's
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say it's impossible to get a bleed,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: because it's still gonna happen. The paint bleed is inevitable.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: It's going to happen, but it's much harder now with
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: that particular tape, that particular tape. So I love the
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: frog blue because I can get them in six packs
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: one inch or point nine to four inch.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: You know, they blue, there's green and yellow. They all
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: do different things. He talked about them on the show
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: multiple times. Yeah, and so you use the blue.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I love the blue because I can get again, get
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: them in six packs a little bit cheaper. You don't
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: have to buy the the the green with the with
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: the hard case that I mean, I've those to me.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: That's the premium, right, it's the I would use that
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: if I absolutely thought I didn't trust myself for some reason.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: The blue, I just love it. You can get them
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: in six packs, yeah, yeah, contractor deal and so what
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: of them?
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: What about those folks who are saying and like you said,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: there are people yep, hollering at the at the at
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: their phone or however they're listening to this that you know,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: they don't tape. They get that clean line without you tape.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Do you tape on everything.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Or not everything? If they yeah, I mean if it's
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: most new constructions. I mean, of course, no one's taping
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: their ceiling. I mean some that do not. No offense
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: to anybody that is that's a douire that doesn't feel
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: like they can cut a straight line on your ceiling.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: By all means, whatever gets the job done. There's not
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: a wrong way right way. There's the only right way
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: is your way and what you are happy with.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The wrong way is forcing yourself into a system
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: or a mode of operation that's outside of what you
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: know you're really comfortable doing, in order to mimic what
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: you think somebody else who's a professional should be doing.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: We're not professional, or that told you was that's the
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: only way, So you do what you gotta do.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't. There is no only way, and probably
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: anything just ask YouTube. There's a bunch of different ways
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: to do things. So, yeah, I just love frog tape
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: and as far as you know, troubleshooting and stuff, I
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I like to use a wet right, little wet rag
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: before I know it it does. It seals the paint
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: a little better.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: You get the tape down and then you'll hit it
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: with a wet rag.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Very not and I'm not saying some people think they're
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: gonna soak it. Yeah, don't do that. I would not
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: do that. You don't want to just soak that paper.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: But yeah, just just lightly before you go around with
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: your first coat, that will ensure a definite better seal.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: You can feel, you can actually feel a difference when
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: you go to peel it.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: You're just preactivating that that that chemical is gonna exactly seal.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I mean, I think they probably
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: do show that now on on frog tapes sometimes, you know, demonstration,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: they'll actually show that I did. Somebody told me, another
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: painter told me that, so I gave it a try
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: and he was right. You know, it's one of those
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Thank you whoever told me that, if you're listening, thank
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: you so much, because I use it.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Do you think that it speeds up? You know, because
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: the argument is going to be that I can go
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: way faster just cutting in by eye.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure that's the case for some people. Sure,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: But for you, you feel like you're faster taking the time
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: or is it just that you're more efficient, I get
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: a better.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Job, Yeah, I think whatever is. I'm super addicted to
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: getting the best job I can get and my own
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: worst enemy sometimes where if this takes me a little
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: bit longer, and of course that time is money. We
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: all know that in this trade or any trade. Again,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: if it sacrificed my time, you know, if I'm going
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: a little faster and it's sacrificing the results of this job.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: It's someone's dream home that we're dealing with here, whether
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: it's sold or not, it's somebody's going to purchase this,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: And I just I always worry about what someone else
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: is thinking, or somebody's going to see that later on.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: They might not see it right away, and wonder somebody
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: like I just cut that corner. Whether they say that
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: or not, it's in my mind they're going to say that.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: So it drives me nuts. So a little bit of
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: perfectionist there, but to your best, that's what I use.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: The tools that are available. Sure, so frog tape, other
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: tools that jump out.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: In oh, I mean just everything from a real quality brush. Again,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: use quality stuff. It goes longer if you clean it out,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: you do it. They're a correct way in your job.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I think, in my opinion, is gonna benefit from that.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: The homeowner is gonna benefit from that.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: And let's take a break right there, and then after
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: the commercials, we'll be back for the conclusion of my
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: interview with Mike Cherry from Cheery Painting. Stick around and
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• 30:41
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• 31:00
  Speaker 1: All right, here's the conclusion of my interview with Mike
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Cherry from Cherry Painting. So different products, what about paint
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: and you know, I talk about this because I'm marketing
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: paint and selling paint, and so I know how people
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: potentially listen to that. Yep, you know I'm the guy
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: selling it. You're the guy buying it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 1: You just talked about frog tape, talked about brushes, all
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: of that. The good stuff matters. How do you feel
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  Speaker 1: about paint? I don't know what you're gonna say on this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I'll open the can of worms.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just say.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody will go, what in the world are you talking
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  Speaker 2: about it? This? And this? There's there's a definite I
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  Speaker 2: struggle like everybody because I'm the one trying to sell
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: it to a homeowner. You sell it to me. Yep,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I have something that I might like that it rolls
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  Speaker 2: off the brush well or feeling you know, what's got
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: the most washability for the less the leachine. Right, everybody's
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: looking for that perfect scenario, that perfect paint. Can I
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: still get it for thirty dollars a gallon, No tried double,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: and then we'll work. I you know, I'm I've really
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  Speaker 2: become I have a deep appreciation for care Free Repco Lights.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Care Free I getting at a great deal. I feel
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  Speaker 2: like the eggshell's got some decent washability. The homeowner wins,
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  Speaker 2: it looks great. I like it because I'm winning a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. And I mean, if we both win here,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: what's the trade off? Right? Is it going to scrub
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: like scuffax? No? Absolutely not. If you wanted that, then
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: go with scuff X. But that middle ground for me
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  Speaker 2: is that is that care free? Do I use scuffax
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  Speaker 2: on every single one of my trim jobs, regardless of price? Yes,
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  Speaker 2: that's all I use. It's what I love to use.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Looks great to me, it's it's my go to the
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: di wires. Painting your own home, how do you how
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: do you justify seventy dollars gallon paint? Well, it's gonna last,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: gonna look great, your kids can beat the heck out
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: of it. You should be able to wash scrub it
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  Speaker 2: quite easily without seeing a massive sh change and all
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  Speaker 2: that kind of thing. So yeah, back to that main
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: party of question, get the best that you can, that
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  Speaker 2: you're that you can afford.
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  Speaker 1: Like you said, the thing that I always try to
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: make the case because my default position is money saving,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: you know, on everything that I buy. And as I
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: get older, I get wiser, and you realize that it's
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: worth spending the extra cause it's gonna last longer. Now
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I can't spend the extra on everything. I still have
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: to make adjustments. So you still have to make those decisions.
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  Speaker 1: Where can I, you know, afford to make the cuts.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: And that's why the second secondary bedrooms and things like that.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Closets can be different products. But when you talk about Okay,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop the big bucks, I'm gonna get scuff
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: x big bucks. But you know it feels big in
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: terms of a gallon of paint, and I'm going to
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: put that on, you know, as a di wire. Especially
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: thinking about it that way, the amount of work, you know,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: using a quality paint, it applies easier usually, so you're
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be either the same amount of work
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: or easier a little bit. To use a better product,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna have to do it nearly as often. Correct,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: that's the downside with the cheaper thing. You may save
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: some money, work is the same and you're doing it quicker. Again,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: So if you don't love doing it, drop that extra
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: ahead of time and you'll save money in the long.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Run, and a lot of you if you're listening to
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: the show. You actually like painting, you know, you're actually
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: or at least you're interested in the trade or like
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: doing your own home.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: So you find the best thing you can afford.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: I think. So that's I'm going to have some Yeah,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: get the best that you can afford.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: No, that's good advice. And you know when people are
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: hiring contractors, you know they're they're contacting you. Now you're
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: working for a builder. But do you have any advice
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: out there for people who are looking to hire somebody?
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: And what are some things they should be looking for?
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: What are maybe some red flags.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: That you would see in the workers?
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: You mean, yeah, I'm thinking in the people that they're
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: you know, they're trying to get a contractor into their home. Sure,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: what should they be looking for?
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: So red flags for me, I mean you can tell
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: right away a personality of somebody and how you're going
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: to go. And I'm there's some guys that are amazing salesmen,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: that are painters, that are going to sell you on
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: some thing. They've never done it, the fake it till
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: you make it, you know, beware of those. But they're there.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Those guys are there, those women are there, They're they
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: can they can sell you on a great job, and
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: and whether you get that is going to be in
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: right in time. Sometimes it doesn't work out. Sometimes it doesn't.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: You got a heck of a deal. I'm not the
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: cheapest guy, but I promise you you're going to be happy
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: when I leave. And that just doesn't mean with your job.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: You know, you're not clean hands and the smiles and
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: our personality and anybody that I bring onto the crew
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: is going to treat you like it's their home. And
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: like I mentioned a little bit before, I have now gone.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I mean We're going to the Rolling Stones with fans.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: I'm going to Chicago music usually around music with people,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: with people that I didn't know from ahead of time.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Next thing, you know, we're we're best friends. And that's
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: I'm not tooting my own horn there or anything. I
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: just think once you can develop that relationship with them,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: with homeowners, and it's not always going to be that. Right,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: someone's going to pay you via Venmo or something right
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: off the bed and then they're never going to talk
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: to you again. Please pass on my name. That's the
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: main thing. I think. That's six hundred dollars starewell I
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: did or fill in the blank. Job you did for
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: them is great right now. But if they don't say, hey,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: you know, Pat, Bob's biller did a great job on
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: this and he bah bah bah, and he was clean
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: and they were friendly and you'll really like them, then
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: your business has stopped. That.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I think that's really important. You know, that's really something
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: that I think a lot of people probably don't think about.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I didn't think about that, and I think it's probably
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: something super easy that we can do as homeowners because
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: we've all had you know, I haven't had people come
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: in paint in the house, because I would do that,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: But there's other things where I've had people come in
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: and I've been so thrilled with the work, you know,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: and I thank them immensely. I've sent them a really
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: nice email, and that's all really good, yep. But what
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I could do that's really going to help turn things
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: around is give their name out exactly.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: You know. Obviously you need that money, Okay, you need
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: you got to pay your bill for that month, but
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: the bills don't stop coming, your mortgage doesn't stop. I
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: mean some of you again paid it off, awesome, but
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: you need a new car three hundred bucks is not
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: out of the question anymore to go to the grocery store.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: You're working for that next suggestion, that that next referral.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: So with that said, do you want to give your
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: name out your contacted Yeah, people want to show.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can Cherry Day or ww do at Cherry
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: dash Painting dot com. And I've got all my stuff.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I'm getting a little better at updating that and updating
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: on the website. You can get me at Cherry m
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Painting at gmail dot com or even two three one
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  Speaker 2: two two five five zero three two is my cell.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Thanks Mike for hanging out anytime.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Man, I really appreciate this opportunity.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: And that's gonna do it. That's all the time we've got.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: If you want to catch this episode again, you can
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: find it online at repco light dot com. And while
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: you're there, make sure you check out our other episodes
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: as well as our blog and all of the other
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: ridiculously cool stuff that we've got there. And if you're
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: a painting contractor and you would like to be featured
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: on our show in an upcoming episode, please reach out
• 38:15
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• 38:18
  Speaker 1: me at radio at repco Light dot com. Just send
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: me an email and we'll get things moving. And really,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: if you've got a painting contractor that you love working with,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: maybe you're not a painting contractor, but you've hired a really,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: really good one and you'd like to recommend that they
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: get some airtime. Just send me an email with that
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: info and let me know. Again. It's radio at repcol
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: light dot com. Everybody wins when we highlight great companies
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: like Cherry Painting. Mike gets some good exposure and you
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: get introduced to some of the best painting contractors in
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: our area. All right, whatever you do today, make sure
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: paints a part of it, and remember your next painting
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: project is way easier than you think. Stop out at
• 38:55
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• 38:57
  Speaker 1: great weekend everyone, and I'll see you next week. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Dan Hansen. Thanks for listening.