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- 0:12Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football touchdown jack Denville,
- 0:18Speaker 1: Mark's leads for the Dagar. This is the Doug Moron Show.
- 0:28Speaker 1: The Doug Moron Show, Former Jaguar Jeff Loghman and j P.
- 0:32Speaker 1: Shadrick discussed the latest Jaguars news with the head coach.
- 0:36Speaker 1: The Doug Moron Show starts right now. Welcome back to
- 0:41Speaker 1: The Doug Moron Show, presented by the Florida Deparliament of
- 0:44Speaker 1: Highway Safety and Motor Vehicle JAP Shadrick, Jeff Loghuman, Tony Basselli,
- 0:48Speaker 1: the head coach. Is I believe the shrine Bold practices
- 0:51Speaker 1: this weeker was earlier in the week. The offensive coordinator
- 0:55Speaker 1: search continues. We'll discuss all that coming up to lugs.
- 1:00Speaker 1: What's up you know? I was, I mean, Tony, were
- 1:05Speaker 1: just talking um before we came on here about Bill
- 1:09Speaker 1: O'Brien's decision to go for a fake punt in that
- 1:13Speaker 1: game against kans City. So for all those all those
- 1:17Speaker 1: who have just joined on The Dug Moron Show. On
- 1:20Speaker 1: a previous program here in Jacksonville, we finished with thoughts
- 1:23Speaker 1: about divisional weekend and look ahead of the championship weekend.
- 1:27Speaker 1: This weekend, the Sunday, the f C and NFC Championship games,
- 1:30Speaker 1: and that chiefs Um Texans game is the one we're
- 1:34Speaker 1: discussing now. And the reason I bring that up is
- 1:37Speaker 1: because there's no way that Doug Moron would make that call.
- 1:41Speaker 1: There's no way that Joe D. Camillus would make that call.
- 1:45Speaker 1: The Jaguar Special Team's court. Hey, I mean you put
- 1:48Speaker 1: it on the show, you're up twenty four to nothing
- 1:51Speaker 1: at that time, whatever, and put it away. You're gonna
- 1:56Speaker 1: go for a fake punt. They're on there, like on
- 1:59Speaker 1: twenty nine to get to the thirty four or thirty
- 2:05Speaker 1: three to for the first down. It was, but when
- 2:07Speaker 1: they got it out there, it was a one on
- 2:10Speaker 1: one play seven. We got twenty four points on the board.
- 2:16Speaker 1: What are you trying to do? Still possession? You just
- 2:18Speaker 1: stole a bunch of possessions. So what happened? Maybe they
- 2:22Speaker 1: needed the possession? You see what happened? You see I
- 2:25Speaker 1: think that get that changes the momentum and the if
- 2:28Speaker 1: you look at if you look at that game flow
- 2:30Speaker 1: was it was twenty four nothing Titans. I mean, excuse me.
- 2:33Speaker 1: The Texans kick off, it's the big runback that gets
- 2:38Speaker 1: the Chiefs some some momentum, so they fifty eight yard
- 2:42Speaker 1: hard Hardened or hard Away whatever his name is, Hardman, Hardman,
- 2:45Speaker 1: thank you. Uh he ends up they end up scoring.
- 2:49Speaker 1: A few plays later. They kicked to the tight to
- 2:52Speaker 1: the Texans. You get a couple, you know, you don't
- 2:54Speaker 1: get a first down, and it's time to punt. Well,
- 2:57Speaker 1: just punted away there and see if the Chiefs can
- 3:00Speaker 1: actually put together a full length drive, which they had
- 3:03Speaker 1: not to that point. I'm not done drop passes. Instead,
- 3:07Speaker 1: you go for a fake and now they have another
- 3:09Speaker 1: short field, so you give them on special teams to
- 3:12Speaker 1: special poor special needs plays. One of poor decision by
- 3:15Speaker 1: that coach. You give the Chiefs, who are a dynamic
- 3:18Speaker 1: offensive team short fields to work with, and now all
- 3:22Speaker 1: of a sudden they're momentum and it's another special teams there.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Immediately they fumbled the kickoff, and so you went from
- 3:30Speaker 1: twenty four nothing and you look up at that was
- 3:36Speaker 1: one of the most ex quarters, or should I say
- 3:40Speaker 1: one of the most exciting has football, because you gotta
- 3:44Speaker 1: say the first twenty four points that Houston was able
- 3:47Speaker 1: to get was exciting. It was I mean, that was
- 3:49Speaker 1: a crazy game, and uh I mean, boy, the Tale
- 3:53Speaker 1: of two Quarters. I mean, I was sitting there thinking
- 3:55Speaker 1: to myself when when Buffalo was or excuse me, when
- 3:58Speaker 1: Houston was up. I'm sitting there going, this is gonna
- 4:01Speaker 1: be one of the greatest comeback games ever because cam
- 4:04Speaker 1: Cities coming back, they can score. And so I immediately
- 4:07Speaker 1: started to I. I pulled up my phone, I said,
- 4:09Speaker 1: and I for reason, Houston was on my mind. I
- 4:11Speaker 1: did Houston Buffalo search comeback game. And I couldn't remember
- 4:15Speaker 1: what the deaths it was in that game. It was
- 4:17Speaker 1: thirty Oilers and the Bills thirty two point, which is
- 4:27Speaker 1: like the largest comeback and halftime. Ya. I was in
- 4:32Speaker 1: college in in the mountains a game after ankle surgery
- 4:37Speaker 1: and ankle surgery with my buddies, and we went up there.
- 4:40Speaker 1: I couldn't ski they were all off their skiing. I
- 4:41Speaker 1: sat there watching that game in the mountains and it
- 4:45Speaker 1: was the craziest thing I've ever seen. It was unbelievable.
- 4:48Speaker 1: And and they did it with with with the head
- 4:50Speaker 1: coach of the Indianapolis calls to the town Frank right.
- 4:54Speaker 1: And so I was thinking about that game and uh
- 4:56Speaker 1: and while I mean once and on the sideline, you
- 5:00Speaker 1: could tell Andy Reid was trying to keep things and
- 5:02Speaker 1: trying to control himself a little bit, because I mean,
- 5:05Speaker 1: the the easy reaction would have been what are we doing?
- 5:08Speaker 1: And yell and holler and scream, and but you know,
- 5:11Speaker 1: you look at it. Tyreek had a critical drop. Big
- 5:17Speaker 1: time players had critical mistakes in that ball game. And
- 5:21Speaker 1: then when they came rolling back, all of those players
- 5:25Speaker 1: had critical plays to get right back in it. And
- 5:27Speaker 1: Kelsey was the one leading away three touchdowns and then
- 5:33Speaker 1: she's reading I'm reading all the clips of them doing
- 5:34Speaker 1: the game, uh the Sunday, and it was mixed on
- 5:39Speaker 1: the sidelines. You had some guys like saying, oh my gosh,
- 5:43Speaker 1: we're gonna lose this game. It's over, like like a
- 5:46Speaker 1: little bit of panic. And then you had certain guys
- 5:48Speaker 1: Mahomes and Kelsey being the two that basically Kelsey was like,
- 5:52Speaker 1: look at Watkins, says no, no, no, We're fine, basically man,
- 5:56Speaker 1: so many words, and and Mahomes was the same thing,
- 5:58Speaker 1: going up and down talking to guys and how there
- 6:02Speaker 1: was it was, Yeah, had both feelings on the sideline,
- 6:05Speaker 1: like Frank Clark, who end up having a great game
- 6:07Speaker 1: three sacks at one point a minute, he's like, we're
- 6:10Speaker 1: down twenty for nothing. I'm looking up, going great, screwed up? Yeah,
- 6:15Speaker 1: here we go. But it's amazing that the will and
- 6:19Speaker 1: the past, the will of just the leaders to be
- 6:21Speaker 1: able to stick in there and hang in there and
- 6:23Speaker 1: get it done. And it's not like the comeback was
- 6:25Speaker 1: just oh, let's win by a point. They outscored him
- 6:27Speaker 1: fifty one to seven scorts for the first time the NFL.
- 6:32Speaker 1: Think about that first time in the history of the NFL.
- 6:34Speaker 1: This is the hundredth year, the centennial celebration of the NFL.
- 6:39Speaker 1: That eight they scored touchdowns on seven possessions and and
- 6:47Speaker 1: damn near almost made a d eight. Yeah they did
- 6:51Speaker 1: ye crazy good. Now, Actually, I I was texting. I
- 6:56Speaker 1: texted Tony and I said, yep, that Mahomi's guy. Yeah,
- 7:01Speaker 1: pretty good. I think I included something else in there,
- 7:05Speaker 1: said I, but we won't talk about that. The tight
- 7:09Speaker 1: different topic. Titans. Derrick Henry the first back. Here's another
- 7:14Speaker 1: one first back in the history of the NFL. Think
- 7:17Speaker 1: of all the great backs hundred years. There's rushed for
- 7:20Speaker 1: over a hundred eighty yards in three straight games. He's
- 7:25Speaker 1: he's on pace to break John Riggins postseason record rushing
- 7:31Speaker 1: obviously has to get the Super Bowl to be able
- 7:32Speaker 1: to do that, But I didn't realize. I'm not sure.
- 7:35Speaker 1: I actually think Jeff he can break it this game.
- 7:38Speaker 1: He can if he has a monster. It's six ten,
- 7:42Speaker 1: I think is what John Riggins had in the postseason,
- 7:45Speaker 1: so it would be tough to think it's that high.
- 7:48Speaker 1: It is. No, I think he's that's postseason career. Yes, No,
- 7:52Speaker 1: I think it was one postseason. There's only had three
- 7:55Speaker 1: games restaurant with two our yards a game. Okay, maybe
- 7:58Speaker 1: I was wrong, Maybe I misreading. Yeah, it's I think
- 7:59Speaker 1: it's postseason, post season at the whole. Yeah, as a whole.
- 8:04Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure than Thomas is way up there because
- 8:06Speaker 1: I mean maybe, I mean Riggins has the record, and
- 8:10Speaker 1: it might be. We gotta I got here, we gotta
- 8:15Speaker 1: go stand by, stand by, well over the place. I
- 8:19Speaker 1: got to make stats in my head right now. This
- 8:22Speaker 1: six hundred ten yards a single postseason record. Four have
- 8:26Speaker 1: four games, A hundred and sixty six of those came
- 8:28Speaker 1: from the Super Bowl, uh and thirty eight carries in
- 8:32Speaker 1: the superst He was thirty three years old. They must
- 8:38Speaker 1: have been they must have been record. So Derrick Henry
- 8:43Speaker 1: shooting for that, so he must have been the wild card.
- 8:45Speaker 1: So you can credit me when you talk about that
- 8:46Speaker 1: on your's okay, um, But the Hunter, I mean his
- 8:52Speaker 1: the hundred eight. It's crazy, three straight plus and and
- 8:56Speaker 1: and and here's the thing. If you if you look
- 8:59Speaker 1: at some running backs, for example, Emmett Smith, who has
- 9:04Speaker 1: tremendous numbers in the postseason, he had a great passing
- 9:07Speaker 1: game with some great receivers. We're talking about Derrick Henry
- 9:12Speaker 1: who how many times is tanny Hill even throwing the ball.
- 9:16Speaker 1: But but here's the thing, if you, if you go,
- 9:18Speaker 1: if you look at them going into the playoffs, tanny
- 9:20Speaker 1: Hill was putting up huge, huge numbers. But now I know,
- 9:24Speaker 1: but they're not even trying to throw the ball. His
- 9:27Speaker 1: attempts are down like nights. That's where that's where I'm
- 9:32Speaker 1: I'm telling people, and people are and and I'm guilty
- 9:35Speaker 1: of this as you sit there and you go, there's
- 9:36Speaker 1: no way that Tennessee can beat Kansas City. Oh yes,
- 9:39Speaker 1: there is a I'm telling you. If they can run
- 9:42Speaker 1: Derrick Henry like they've been running, and if tanny Hill
- 9:46Speaker 1: just don't throw the ball, have some big plays like
- 9:49Speaker 1: he had this year, because he's had some tremendous games
- 9:53Speaker 1: worth explosive plays, and the Kansas City game was one
- 9:56Speaker 1: of them that he was unbelievable. If he plays like that,
- 10:00Speaker 1: they can win here. I mean, you look at exposed
- 10:02Speaker 1: to plays. You're right, Jeff. From the standpoint, he only
- 10:03Speaker 1: had eighty eight yards against the Ravens. Penny held it.
- 10:10Speaker 1: Forty five of them. More than half of them came
- 10:12Speaker 1: on one pass to Janni Smith. Nie Smith, I got
- 10:18Speaker 1: to say, I didn't see that one coming. By the way,
- 10:20Speaker 1: would you pay Derrick Henry? Yes, Because here's the thing
- 10:23Speaker 1: about Derrick Henry. Here's the other thing. I'm of the
- 10:26Speaker 1: opinion he's gonna be twenty six years old this offseason
- 10:29Speaker 1: or he just turned to he just turned Actually in
- 10:32Speaker 1: the New England games, he is I believe he is
- 10:37Speaker 1: the exception as far as being able to handle the pounding.
- 10:41Speaker 1: Like you look at the am out of carries he's
- 10:42Speaker 1: getting every game. He's not tired. They talked to him
- 10:45Speaker 1: after the game. He's like, no, I'm not tired. This
- 10:46Speaker 1: is what I do. You go back to college when
- 10:50Speaker 1: he was at his best in the big games and
- 10:53Speaker 1: Alabama started making a run. He would go thirty nine
- 10:55Speaker 1: carries cars, thirty six carries like back to back to
- 11:00Speaker 1: act against the best competition, and he never got tired.
- 11:03Speaker 1: He never wore down. Do you do you pay him
- 11:06Speaker 1: more than Girly? Because I mean that's I would pay him.
- 11:10Speaker 1: What did Girly get paid? I don't even fifteen sixteen
- 11:12Speaker 1: a year? Right, I would? I mean, listen, and it's
- 11:15Speaker 1: a dangerous game to play because running backs at the
- 11:19Speaker 1: drop of a hat can disappear. But I probably give
- 11:21Speaker 1: a four year deal, forty eight. I don't think I
- 11:24Speaker 1: give him fifteen or sixteen, but you know, four year
- 11:27Speaker 1: forty eight, four years, I mean I would. I mean,
- 11:30Speaker 1: I'd give that in a minute for him four year
- 11:33Speaker 1: somebody that you can franchise him. If he doesn't, probably
- 11:36Speaker 1: they're gonna have to franchise tanny Hill too because they
- 11:38Speaker 1: gotta sign him. They have a huge offseason. I mean,
- 11:41Speaker 1: the Titans very well have a chance to win the
- 11:43Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Are you confident the Tanny Tanny Hill can
- 11:46Speaker 1: be the guy? You have to pay him? Wait, I
- 11:50Speaker 1: would probably franchise him, and just I mean, that's what's
- 11:53Speaker 1: the franchise tax. Yeah, but it's a one. It's a
- 11:57Speaker 1: one year deal. So if he does it again, then
- 11:58Speaker 1: I'm gonna get him along. Yeah with you when your
- 12:01Speaker 1: franchise deal on the quarter by the way, early four years,
- 12:04Speaker 1: fifty seven and a half million dollars including forty five
- 12:07Speaker 1: million guaranteed dollars. Yeah, I mean I would maybe shortened,
- 12:12Speaker 1: maybe shorten the deal for I mean a perfect world,
- 12:16Speaker 1: you give make it, make it all guaranteed, to take
- 12:20Speaker 1: it all guaranteed. And Emmett Smith has the career postseason
- 12:24Speaker 1: yardage record, and that's total one thousand, five d eighty
- 12:28Speaker 1: six yards and nineteen touchdowns in the postseason on the
- 12:32Speaker 1: way He's gonna But Henry, I'm I'm convinced. And I
- 12:36Speaker 1: don't like paying running backs a bunch of money where
- 12:38Speaker 1: you're locked into it because I think we're drafting running
- 12:41Speaker 1: I don't like drafting up and we've argued that before.
- 12:43Speaker 1: I don't like drafting running backs earlier, second, third, fourth round.
- 12:47Speaker 1: That's where I'm looking for our running backs, even free agents.
- 12:49Speaker 1: Look at some of the UH backs were very good.
- 12:52Speaker 1: Derrick Henry's a second rounder, but his body type in
- 12:57Speaker 1: the what does he way anyway, he's got to be
- 12:59Speaker 1: too can at least he's six four. I mean they
- 13:04Speaker 1: might list him at forty. I don't care what they listen.
- 13:06Speaker 1: I've been on the I've been on the field with him. Yeah,
- 13:09Speaker 1: he's got he's listen how tall six three, there's no
- 13:17Speaker 1: I've stood next to him, Jeff, he is looking. I'm
- 13:20Speaker 1: thinking six four two standing next to you, and he
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- 16:00Speaker 1: right now. Welcome back, JP Shattered, Tony Vaselli, Jeff Lagman,
- 16:04Speaker 1: The Doug Morone Show rolls along. The off season is here.
- 16:09Speaker 1: That means there are some coaching positions available for the
- 16:13Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars, including the offensive coordinator spot. John d Filippo
- 16:17Speaker 1: and the Jaguars mutually agreed to part ways. John d
- 16:20Speaker 1: Filippo since then has accepted the quarterback coach job with
- 16:25Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears, so he's moving on to the Windy City.
- 16:29Speaker 1: And the Jaguars job is still open, and there are
- 16:32Speaker 1: rumors swirling around, of course, but JP is going to
- 16:36Speaker 1: be a candidate. That's a rumor. You're a candidate, that's
- 16:39Speaker 1: another rumor. I did get a tweet earlier Jeff Loghman
- 16:42Speaker 1: for assistant coach. I know I'm pulling my name. I'd
- 16:46Speaker 1: like to officially right now pull my name out of
- 16:49Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator job. I just think it's best mutually
- 16:56Speaker 1: I've discussed it with Doug and don't think it's best
- 17:00Speaker 1: for me to be involved in basically, sit there, you're
- 17:05Speaker 1: gonna be an offensive cluse. No, I've I've informed Doug
- 17:08Speaker 1: that I can take my name out. You would have
- 17:10Speaker 1: to close his Twitter account. I can take my name
- 17:14Speaker 1: out of consideration. I love it. So what do you
- 17:18Speaker 1: look for in an offensive coordinator for this slipball team
- 17:20Speaker 1: considering the circumstances around the team this year? I mean
- 17:23Speaker 1: the circumstances you're talking about. Is is this a place
- 17:26Speaker 1: that you can offer an offensive coordinator a four or
- 17:29Speaker 1: five year deal like other openings might have. No, you're
- 17:33Speaker 1: talking about a couple of year contract. I guess, I
- 17:37Speaker 1: mean I don't know that for sure. Of that obviously
- 17:39Speaker 1: is something that the head coach would have to work
- 17:42Speaker 1: out with ownership on what the parameters can be as
- 17:46Speaker 1: far as length and pay and everything else. I'm sure.
- 17:50Speaker 1: But my thought was is that it would be a
- 17:53Speaker 1: somebody who has been around the block before, somebody that
- 17:58Speaker 1: has enough JP. You said it's earlier pelts on the wall,
- 18:03Speaker 1: that has thicker skin, that's not looking for the next
- 18:06Speaker 1: step up and the ladder to climb the ladder so
- 18:10Speaker 1: to speak um and names that maybe fit that Bill
- 18:15Speaker 1: uh Todd Munkin's a guy, but I think he probably
- 18:19Speaker 1: still is looking maybe to advance a little bit, maybe
- 18:22Speaker 1: a ken Wizzen Hunt as a guy that's been around
- 18:25Speaker 1: the block, he's been a head coach. I don't think
- 18:26Speaker 1: he's looking to be a head coach again. The former
- 18:29Speaker 1: coach of the New York Giants. I hear he's interviewed
- 18:33Speaker 1: Bob Basketball, hell of a power forward. But Ben would
- 18:41Speaker 1: be a guy and he's looking to get back in him.
- 18:43Speaker 1: It was an offensive mind. People say, well, what about
- 18:46Speaker 1: Jason Garrett. But look, Jason Garrett I think still wants
- 18:49Speaker 1: to be a head coach. So I don't see he's
- 18:51Speaker 1: interviewed with the Giants. Yeah, I don't see this place
- 18:54Speaker 1: is as being a place that he might fit in.
- 18:57Speaker 1: So I mean, I mean there's I think that's the fit.
- 19:00Speaker 1: I mean, a young, up and coming coach. I don't
- 19:03Speaker 1: think that that's the fit that you may go with.
- 19:05Speaker 1: What about style, Jeff, what kind of style does it
- 19:08Speaker 1: matter to you? I think you've got to have somebody
- 19:14Speaker 1: that has played multiple styles because until you see, I
- 19:17Speaker 1: mean this is this team doesn't have established personnel in
- 19:23Speaker 1: so and in some cases I think there's you're still
- 19:24Speaker 1: trying to acquire. Okay, So that like so I agree
- 19:28Speaker 1: with like when you like tell me what we want offense,
- 19:33Speaker 1: what's your identity, like what do you want to be?
- 19:35Speaker 1: And so, and really the only person who can answer
- 19:38Speaker 1: that's is done wrong. And so Doug has to decide, like,
- 19:42Speaker 1: this is what I want to be as an offense,
- 19:46Speaker 1: this is the team, this is the what I think
- 19:48Speaker 1: best fits us. And then you gotta go find a
- 19:50Speaker 1: guy that can do that. So like if you look
- 19:52Speaker 1: at um, if you want to be like a run
- 19:55Speaker 1: for like run heavy, play act and pass shot team
- 19:59Speaker 1: just you know whatever, and your base run wants to
- 20:02Speaker 1: be zone and you're gonna do Okay, Well, then I
- 20:06Speaker 1: want to go find a guy that has been influenced
- 20:09Speaker 1: by Kyle Shanahan, Gary Kubiak that type of system, because
- 20:14Speaker 1: that's where the success has come from and that's the
- 20:16Speaker 1: style I want to run. And so your question is
- 20:19Speaker 1: or I'm gonna go look for people who run offenses
- 20:22Speaker 1: like that? Okay? Is that Ken wizen Hut I'm just
- 20:25Speaker 1: saying because that's one of the names. Is that who
- 20:27Speaker 1: he is? What is Ken Wizzenut's history. Well, he was
- 20:30Speaker 1: with Philip Rivers. They're heavy throw team, multiple formation, spreads out,
- 20:35Speaker 1: quick passing game, and he built it to the strengths
- 20:38Speaker 1: of Philip Rivers and run was secondary. Yeah, but what
- 20:43Speaker 1: was his style when he was with Arizona. Yeah, I'm
- 20:46Speaker 1: trying to head coach, but I can't remembers. Not bad.
- 20:51Speaker 1: I mean, Kurt Warner was. I mean, I think it
- 20:53Speaker 1: was still throw first, mainly because it was Kurt Warner,
- 20:56Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald, Matt Liner. But Matt but that was that
- 20:59Speaker 1: he got really bench Matten. They went to the Super Bowl. Um,
- 21:04Speaker 1: and that's what I'm not being critical, Like, wasn't a
- 21:06Speaker 1: good coach, really good coach and so, but now Doug
- 21:10Speaker 1: wants to be, Hey, I want to be spreads you out,
- 21:13Speaker 1: multiple formation, quick passing game, screen game, Uh, you know,
- 21:18Speaker 1: run out of eleven personnel. Great, Okay, well then go
- 21:23Speaker 1: get that type of guy. Like you have to decide
- 21:25Speaker 1: what you want to be and then go find the
- 21:28Speaker 1: best coordinator who has had success. He's got to be
- 21:32Speaker 1: somebody that that meshes with the head coach number one.
- 21:35Speaker 1: And then you have to make sure the personality he's
- 21:38Speaker 1: gonna mesh with the coaches that you are currently telling
- 21:41Speaker 1: you to me, that is one of the most important things. Well,
- 21:44Speaker 1: I actually disagree with that. I think the offensive staff
- 21:46Speaker 1: has to mess with him because he's the leader. Well,
- 21:48Speaker 1: they do. But you want to you want to have
- 21:50Speaker 1: you want to make sure it's not crazy. But one
- 21:53Speaker 1: of the things, and I'll ask you, guys, one of
- 21:55Speaker 1: the things that was a frustrating as calling the game,
- 21:59Speaker 1: watching game, studying the game, fan of the game last
- 22:02Speaker 1: year for us all of the above is I don't
- 22:07Speaker 1: think we had any identity as an offense. I would
- 22:10Speaker 1: agree with like if I asked you, like, Jeff, what
- 22:12Speaker 1: are we like? What are the Jacksonville like? What do
- 22:14Speaker 1: they hang their hat on? Um? Well, what was conducted?
- 22:19Speaker 1: I don't think that there. But they didn't have an identity.
- 22:21Speaker 1: I think I think early in the year their identity
- 22:24Speaker 1: was that it was gonna be Leonard Fournett play action.
- 22:31Speaker 1: But as a running team, what would they what would
- 22:35Speaker 1: you say their identity was? This is who they are
- 22:38Speaker 1: as a run team far as the style of runs, like,
- 22:41Speaker 1: what do they like? What do they hang their hang on?
- 22:42Speaker 1: And how is it they didn't have they didn't have
- 22:44Speaker 1: anything they hung their head on because they kept running
- 22:46Speaker 1: plays that would get Leonard Fournette going. But it was
- 22:52Speaker 1: it was a little bit of everything instead of just saying,
- 22:54Speaker 1: this is our base run, this is what we do well,
- 22:56Speaker 1: and we're gonna build a package off of the times
- 22:58Speaker 1: did we say to ourselves os and and also on
- 23:01Speaker 1: the air that we're surprised that they would run a
- 23:04Speaker 1: play like that where Leonard four Nette starts parallel to
- 23:08Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage when he's a north south runner,
- 23:11Speaker 1: that he's a power runner. I mean, there were times
- 23:13Speaker 1: that we will do that and we would be kind
- 23:15Speaker 1: of be kind of frustrated. You're like, why, and so
- 23:18Speaker 1: I think that's the most important thing that needs to happen,
- 23:21Speaker 1: Like and I think, my guess is one of the
- 23:25Speaker 1: reasons that Doug decided to mutually go in a different
- 23:28Speaker 1: direction with John d Filippo is that he wasn't happy
- 23:31Speaker 1: with the overall direction identity and how they thought at
- 23:34Speaker 1: the end of the year, when when Flip actually talked
- 23:37Speaker 1: about this, you know, hey, we were trying to shorten
- 23:39Speaker 1: the game. You're trying to shorten the game for what reason?
- 23:47Speaker 1: When when when I want I want to coach or
- 23:49Speaker 1: an offensive coach uses the term we wanted to shorten
- 23:52Speaker 1: the game. That typically involves, Okay, we want to control
- 23:56Speaker 1: passing attack, we want to run the football, we want
- 23:59Speaker 1: to eat up the clock. But for me, I had
- 24:03Speaker 1: a hard time kind of grasping that as as a
- 24:07Speaker 1: goal that you wanted to accomplish for two reasons. One
- 24:11Speaker 1: is you didn't have anything to lose at at the
- 24:14Speaker 1: later stages of the season, and you weren't scoring any points, right, okay,
- 24:19Speaker 1: so why do you want to be conservative short in
- 24:24Speaker 1: the game. Number two, you have some wide receivers that
- 24:28Speaker 1: can flat out run. Okay, you have three guys I
- 24:34Speaker 1: mean right, three, three, maybe four, but three legitimate guys
- 24:37Speaker 1: that can run deep and go get a ball right
- 24:40Speaker 1: killing Cole dj Chart and Chris Connley, right as three
- 24:46Speaker 1: guys that can legitimately run past a guy? Is there
- 24:50Speaker 1: a fourth? I mean, d is not that fast, not
- 24:54Speaker 1: that quickly quickly different directions. So like if we're talking,
- 24:59Speaker 1: we talked to Eli about the Kansas City, uh Tennessee game,
- 25:02Speaker 1: Like Titans are gonna try to shorten that game. But
- 25:05Speaker 1: that's a good game plan. You wanna know why they
- 25:08Speaker 1: have the ability offensive line. They have an identity that
- 25:13Speaker 1: this is what they do. They're inside outside zone team
- 25:16Speaker 1: some toss crack, they build a play action pass off
- 25:20Speaker 1: of it. I mean, they know exactly what they want
- 25:22Speaker 1: to do and they say, we're gonna do this and
- 25:24Speaker 1: you know what, short, We're going to hold the ball
- 25:28Speaker 1: and that like okay. But it goes back to identity.
- 25:31Speaker 1: You have to determine what you're going to be and
- 25:33Speaker 1: that's what Doug has to do and I'm sure he's
- 25:35Speaker 1: doing it, and go hire that guy and then you
- 25:37Speaker 1: build your personnel around what you want to do. Let's
- 25:42Speaker 1: come back plenty more ahead on the Doug Morone Show
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- 28:01Speaker 1: and the Auto dot Com studio. The Doug Morown Show continues.
- 28:05Speaker 1: He's right now. Welcome back, j P. Shadrick, Jeff Loghuman,
- 28:09Speaker 1: Tony Boselli. The Doug Brown Show rolls along as this
- 28:12Speaker 1: offseason continues. Midway through January, offensive coordinator is Clawn. He's
- 28:19Speaker 1: now in Chicago as a quarterbacks coach. What does that mean?
- 28:23Speaker 1: We're talking earlier about scheme and how you you build
- 28:26Speaker 1: a you know, to the personnel and all this stuff.
- 28:29Speaker 1: What does that mean for the quarterback position? Nick Foles, Gardnerman, shoot,
- 28:33Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs even who hasn't that's a that's a well.
- 28:36Speaker 1: First of all, Josh Dobbs, Uh, there's not even a
- 28:39Speaker 1: factor in this. And and I wouldn't be surprised if
- 28:43Speaker 1: if you try to recoup your draft pick that you
- 28:45Speaker 1: gave up for getting Josh Dobbs to where try to
- 28:49Speaker 1: trade him. I mean, I don't know if that that's
- 28:54Speaker 1: possible post market. Uh, I don't know. I mean, I'm
- 28:59Speaker 1: not I don't don't know not. I mean, I might
- 29:01Speaker 1: be fatous. And you think there's a big market for
- 29:03Speaker 1: third quarterbacks on the roster, Well, at some point somebody
- 29:07Speaker 1: will need, like like the check somebody in the year.
- 29:12Speaker 1: But you're not going to keep him until You're not
- 29:14Speaker 1: gonna keep him as a third quarterback because I expect
- 29:16Speaker 1: him to go draft another quarterback. That's that's why I
- 29:18Speaker 1: don't I think you'd look at trading him if you can.
- 29:20Speaker 1: I mean, and in the offseason using your third quarterback,
- 29:23Speaker 1: you're not getting much for a minute, and maybe you
- 29:24Speaker 1: can get a seventh round pick. You take whatever you
- 29:28Speaker 1: can get. I'm not saying you could, but I'm just saying,
- 29:30Speaker 1: but that's typically I mean, would you give up for him? Okay,
- 29:35Speaker 1: so if you can get fifth or six or seventh,
- 29:39Speaker 1: you take it, and uh, yeah, what's interesting fourth or
- 29:44Speaker 1: a third I take it to well, yeah, I take
- 29:46Speaker 1: it a lot faster. You don't take whatever you want
- 29:48Speaker 1: or dreaming, Sure, anybody, I'll take a one for and
- 29:52Speaker 1: this isn't a shot at Josh Dobbs, but he's the
- 29:56Speaker 1: third quarterback on your roster, and typically what happens teams
- 29:58Speaker 1: are smart. Okay, we'll just let this thing play out
- 30:03Speaker 1: and then as soon as the Jacks draft someone, which
- 30:05Speaker 1: I fully expecting the draft in one in rounds, who
- 30:09Speaker 1: knows any round, um you expected to be high. When
- 30:15Speaker 1: I think it's all about the value. I think you
- 30:16Speaker 1: gotta always I mean, Jeff, you and I agree with this.
- 30:19Speaker 1: I wasn't always here, you know, I've always thought, I mean,
- 30:22Speaker 1: obviously we've agreed that the quarterback is the most important position.
- 30:24Speaker 1: You gotta get it right. You've been an aggressive Draft
- 30:27Speaker 1: one every year and I've been like, well, draft one
- 30:30Speaker 1: most years. But you know, sometimes you don't where this
- 30:33Speaker 1: team is until you figure out that position. You gotta
- 30:37Speaker 1: go find a guy. Now, there's a lot of holes
- 30:39Speaker 1: and we'll we'll have a lot of this offseason talk
- 30:41Speaker 1: about the draft and free agencies first, and you gotta
- 30:43Speaker 1: go see what you do in free agency, which is
- 30:45Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting story here because you have to
- 30:49Speaker 1: cut a bunch of guys to make room. You gotta
- 30:51Speaker 1: you gotta cut three or four guys to be a
- 30:54Speaker 1: player in free agency or more. That creates more holes
- 30:57Speaker 1: on your restaurant. I mean, that's like problem. But Jeff,
- 31:00Speaker 1: you don't forget. You have to sign your draft picks too,
- 31:03Speaker 1: so you have to cut just to be able to
- 31:04Speaker 1: sign draft picks, and then you gotta cut to try
- 31:07Speaker 1: to get the free agency. Yeah. I don't know what
- 31:09Speaker 1: did what the room is, but I mean I think
- 31:10Speaker 1: you can. I was told and I read somewhere I
- 31:13Speaker 1: read five million in room right now, we're over the cap.
- 31:16Speaker 1: They expect the cat for next year. That's where I read. Now,
- 31:19Speaker 1: maybe that was inaccurate. I don't think that's accurate. I
- 31:22Speaker 1: think I think they're about they they have only a
- 31:26Speaker 1: couple of million in room, but they can access essentially
- 31:30Speaker 1: about forty seven million pretty quickly with three guys, which
- 31:34Speaker 1: is Klais, Marcel and and then as also at you
- 31:39Speaker 1: can also uh uh no, but not Norm Marquis Lee, Okay, Marks,
- 31:45Speaker 1: and I mean norwell, but I mean if you start
- 31:48Speaker 1: cutting some of these guys, I mean, with the exception
- 31:50Speaker 1: of Markis because Markets doesn't really represent a hole because
- 31:53Speaker 1: he didn't really occupy a position this year for this
- 31:55Speaker 1: football team. So it's not really creating a hole, but
- 31:58Speaker 1: those other four guys, now you've got it's an issue.
- 32:01Speaker 1: Four more holes to fill. Back in a moment, will
- 32:04Speaker 1: continue this discussion. Did you find out how much we're
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- 34:32Speaker 1: We're talking salary cap. It'll be the big topic. So
- 34:36Speaker 1: I was right for the next few were right weeks.
- 34:38Speaker 1: It looks like you were right, Tony, Tony right. I
- 34:42Speaker 1: wish I wasn't right. But we're talking about he's a cap.
- 34:44Speaker 1: But thank you, thank you very much, thank you, thank
- 34:47Speaker 1: says the mom my dad. Um uh. We're talking before
- 34:51Speaker 1: the break that going into this league year, based on
- 34:56Speaker 1: the cap, what the cap is projected to be and
- 34:59Speaker 1: will be. The Jacksonville Jaguars are currently over the cap.
- 35:06Speaker 1: We gets to work to do, and so we have
- 35:08Speaker 1: a good place to be a lot of work. Well,
- 35:11Speaker 1: not a good place to be where you are where
- 35:14Speaker 1: you are talent wise, I mean you need you need
- 35:16Speaker 1: more talent. And then when you're close to the cap,
- 35:19Speaker 1: that's not not good. No boy, use that term again.
- 35:24Speaker 1: And so so who are the casualties were telling Darius's
- 35:31Speaker 1: he's a for sure Darius, he's a twenty two million
- 35:33Speaker 1: dollar savings boy will be a thirteen million dollars with savings.
- 35:37Speaker 1: I think that's a strong possibility. I actually think it's
- 35:41Speaker 1: for sure. I think Markuss and for sure. Can you
- 35:45Speaker 1: I think you begging plead to class, please come back
- 35:48Speaker 1: for half of what we owe you? You absolutely do that,
- 35:51Speaker 1: I would. I mean like class, like I can name
- 35:55Speaker 1: my kid after you in a perfect world, I need
- 35:57Speaker 1: you to come back for half of what you want
- 35:59Speaker 1: to perfect world and you'd love to get Clays back.
- 36:02Speaker 1: And look, he's got to agree to this, and then
- 36:05Speaker 1: that's which, of course is not It's not an easy
- 36:08Speaker 1: A great thing to do is to take a pay
- 36:09Speaker 1: cut when you've been now he'd be clear, he's not
- 36:12Speaker 1: gonna get that much money anywhere else either. No, but
- 36:15Speaker 1: he could get because he could get good money. He's
- 36:18Speaker 1: not gonna get what he's we home next year. In
- 36:20Speaker 1: a perfect world, you'd love to have Clays for let's
- 36:23Speaker 1: say eight right and the open market. What does he
- 36:26Speaker 1: get about eighty, mate? I mean maybe it let me
- 36:30Speaker 1: gets more. I don't don't know. That I mean sometimes,
- 36:34Speaker 1: but I mean in a perfect world, you'd love to
- 36:36Speaker 1: have him for eight and then his snaps go to
- 36:40Speaker 1: five to thirty five a game. He has the Josh
- 36:43Speaker 1: Allen snaps. The amount of snaps to Josh Allen had
- 36:46Speaker 1: this year, which was that thirty thirty two, which is
- 36:50Speaker 1: that's where you want. You would want him to be
- 36:52Speaker 1: um Norwell Nowell, but it was fourteen and a half
- 36:57Speaker 1: cap hit nine million, dead cap say five, you're I
- 37:00Speaker 1: don't think you get I think you bring back bringing
- 37:02Speaker 1: back what about no dead captain? No, no, with him.
- 37:07Speaker 1: He's a good football player and there is a savings
- 37:10Speaker 1: an eight billion dollars savings eight million. I'm not saying
- 37:15Speaker 1: I would bring him back to just saying he doesn't
- 37:18Speaker 1: have a dead cap number. So let's see we got
- 37:21Speaker 1: Marquis Lee from eight seven to three and a half million, yeah,
- 37:26Speaker 1: five million, Yeah, I mean clear, Jeff, I'm on the
- 37:28Speaker 1: same page with you. With the lender, I wouldn't get
- 37:29Speaker 1: rid of either. I'm saying, but it's a significant savings,
- 37:32Speaker 1: but you're losing too much account I'm looking at guys
- 37:35Speaker 1: that could give you savings. Make sure that's what people
- 37:38Speaker 1: listening are clear. The names JP is naming right now
- 37:41Speaker 1: are not names Jeff and I think they should get
- 37:44Speaker 1: rid of. It's just what their cap number is, dead cat,
- 37:46Speaker 1: what the savings is. So d J. Hayden would be one.
- 37:50Speaker 1: He's seven point six cap and one point six dead cab.
- 37:53Speaker 1: That's six million right there. But he's a great book.
- 37:56Speaker 1: He's still him, and he still justify his performance. He's
- 37:59Speaker 1: been a really a player for them. And you're talking
- 38:01Speaker 1: about a secondary that has serious holes elsewhere to fill.
- 38:07Speaker 1: Jake Ryan five and a half million dollar different goodbye? Yeah,
- 38:12Speaker 1: I would think so. Um, but here's the but so
- 38:17Speaker 1: you're over every Jones four million, you're over the cap
- 38:20Speaker 1: right now. You're talking about having to let guys go
- 38:24Speaker 1: because you have to sign your rookies whenever the draft comes.
- 38:27Speaker 1: What's the ballpark rookiemallocation. It's a it's a formula based
- 38:32Speaker 1: on your it's where you're drafted. I don't know what
- 38:35Speaker 1: it would be, but guys, we have not that much.
- 38:38Speaker 1: We have ten picks this year. It's the first round picks.
- 38:43Speaker 1: Additional Yeah, so I bet it's ten million bucks, Jeff,
- 38:45Speaker 1: you two first rounders. I don't know. Let's come back. Well,
- 38:51Speaker 1: here's okay, we're gonna come back. Um, we're heavy on
- 38:56Speaker 1: time as well. We're also I'm a little heavy. I've
- 38:59Speaker 1: lost a little heavy. Come on it. Twelve days down.
- 39:02Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say much because I don't want to
- 39:03Speaker 1: say when I started at but doing good. We'll delve
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- 41:32Speaker 1: Welcome back to Doug mor Own Show. J P, Shadrick,
- 41:35Speaker 1: Tony was Selly, Jeff Flag. When we're continuing our salary
- 41:39Speaker 1: cap deconstruction, Well, because you're over right now, you gotta
- 41:44Speaker 1: set aside whatever for the working. We're guessing you're gonna
- 41:47Speaker 1: have to make cuts. But here's the big one. You
- 41:50Speaker 1: gotta make room. But really, even if you make room,
- 41:52Speaker 1: how active you're gonna be in free agency? Because you
- 41:54Speaker 1: have one big thing you have to figure out and
- 41:56Speaker 1: that's Uniken gog Way and he can you do it?
- 42:00Speaker 1: And he's gonna have a big number associated next to
- 42:04Speaker 1: his name? Do you want to sign him? Can you
- 42:06Speaker 1: do it? I mean, does it? Would it? Would it
- 42:10Speaker 1: make sense to commit? I mean because you're you're you're
- 42:13Speaker 1: talking about a contract. Let's say it's a four year
- 42:18Speaker 1: eight million. Let's make an eighty eight million. Your cap
- 42:24Speaker 1: pit this year would be what I think it's pro
- 42:27Speaker 1: right over four years, isn't it's well, the signing bonuses
- 42:33Speaker 1: guaranteed money. Then the salary is different, different, simple Let's
- 42:38Speaker 1: say fifty million guaranteed. Let's make it over four years,
- 42:41Speaker 1: Let's make it fifty two. So fifty two of that's guaranteed.
- 42:45Speaker 1: Make it forty eight. Make it easy. Fifty two is easy.
- 42:47Speaker 1: It's thirteen. It's not that hard. I'm glad you went
- 42:52Speaker 1: to Virginia anyways. So it's thirteen, and then you'd probably
- 42:57Speaker 1: make his salary small, year one smaller. So let's say
- 43:01Speaker 1: a salaries three. So it's sixteen. You're gonna be locked
- 43:06Speaker 1: and loaded for him, and that number is just gonna
- 43:09Speaker 1: grow over the years. So sixteen, just to get him
- 43:12Speaker 1: signed were according to this web babe, you're two million
- 43:17Speaker 1: over right now the cap. So just to be able
- 43:19Speaker 1: to even sign him, you gotta go make eighteen million
- 43:22Speaker 1: dollars of room. Doing basic math, it could give or
- 43:25Speaker 1: take a million, and you're already almost two billion over.
- 43:30Speaker 1: You have to get down six plus T two. I
- 43:32Speaker 1: think you're you're almost even at the point where let's say,
- 43:35Speaker 1: don't you have to sign him? Jeff, I've gone back
- 43:38Speaker 1: and forth. I know you have to franchise him. That's
- 43:40Speaker 1: his part that you never that. I don't think that
- 43:44Speaker 1: you ever. You never want to be in a position
- 43:47Speaker 1: where you say that. When I say this is for
- 43:49Speaker 1: radio talk, If I'm the Jaguars, I'm saying I'm going
- 43:52Speaker 1: in saying we might lose them, and that's okay, Like
- 43:56Speaker 1: that's the message you want to send to the agent
- 43:58Speaker 1: in the player because you want to I'm talking about
- 44:00Speaker 1: us as we sit here, look at it's just amongst
- 44:03Speaker 1: us three, nobody looking at this team, looking at this team,
- 44:08Speaker 1: do you feel like that this team is in a
- 44:10Speaker 1: position to where they feel like they have to do
- 44:12Speaker 1: it with everything else that just to rebuild it even
- 44:14Speaker 1: because you need you need pros, you need, you need
- 44:16Speaker 1: guys who come and play football players. You want another
- 44:21Speaker 1: hole as if you get what's what's the forget about
- 44:26Speaker 1: trying to like extend them. Let's let's just make it simple.
- 44:28Speaker 1: If what's the franchise tag, I bet it's nineteen twenty, Okay,
- 44:33Speaker 1: that mean that's it's okay, But now that's your cap hit.
- 44:37Speaker 1: Now you have to get to what I'm saying. I mean,
- 44:40Speaker 1: And if you're in gock Way, I mean, because here's
- 44:43Speaker 1: here's the position that and Gockway and his camp are in.
- 44:47Speaker 1: You take what what the franchise tag is this year,
- 44:50Speaker 1: and then you take what it is next year and
- 44:52Speaker 1: the next year guaranteed money start. That's franchise tag projected
- 44:57Speaker 1: is nineteen three, and then it goes up twenty saying
- 45:00Speaker 1: after that correct or something twenties. That's three point eight.
- 45:05Speaker 1: So now you're at four. Okay, you're talking about a
- 45:13Speaker 1: minimum for guarantee. Uh, when you're talking contactually, probably more
- 45:19Speaker 1: than that, because why would you sign guarantee that's the minimum?
- 45:24Speaker 1: You know? So, I mean that's what are you gonna do.
- 45:28Speaker 1: Is this team in a position to where? Okay? So
- 45:31Speaker 1: I mean if that's the case, then JP where you're
- 45:34Speaker 1: keep on going down that salary cap savings list? And
- 45:38Speaker 1: then you start looking at guys like Avery Jones. Okay,
- 45:42Speaker 1: well he represents four million. Okay, do you think you
- 45:46Speaker 1: can get a guy of equal caliber and uh pay
- 45:51Speaker 1: a minimum? Or do we draft a guy the Dantevious Russell? Can?
- 45:55Speaker 1: He he's not ready. I don't think he is either,
- 45:59Speaker 1: But I mean those you might need. That's why you've
- 46:03Speaker 1: got to continue to draft good players, is so that
- 46:06Speaker 1: you can replace some of those guys that represent cap
- 46:09Speaker 1: savings with somebody that is bless. You're paid, we're heavy.
- 46:15Speaker 1: Oh we're back in a moment. We're just rolling along.
- 46:20Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you're here, Hey, Joe, back in the moment.
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- 49:35Speaker 1: back to Doug bron Show continues. J P. Shadrick Jeff Lagavan,
- 49:39Speaker 1: Tony Basselli our lively cap discussion today. This has been fun.
- 49:45Speaker 1: Oh tons of fun. Numbers, baby, numbers. Jeff struggled with
- 49:49Speaker 1: a simple math. We're hanging in there. How did you
- 49:51Speaker 1: get through economics? Uh? Economics, Virginia, how do you do that?
- 49:57Speaker 1: Not me on the ad? Your so you understand that
- 50:03Speaker 1: the concepts you're just goodn't add calculators on phones too, baby? Uh,
- 50:08Speaker 1: economics is actually not so much about numbers. Oh whoa, whoa,
- 50:12Speaker 1: whoa the phone. That's a fine dug her here he'd
- 50:21Speaker 1: say five hundred dollars and it's been reduced way to go.
- 50:26Speaker 1: So all right, so the cap. We'll save this for
- 50:29Speaker 1: another week too. We've got plenty of time to discuss this.
- 50:33Speaker 1: When when the league your start March eighteen? Okay, so
- 50:36Speaker 1: by March eighteen, this team needs to be under the cap,
- 50:40Speaker 1: and then they need to be in a situation soon
- 50:42Speaker 1: after to have enough room for a draft class. And
- 50:46Speaker 1: February is the window to start naming franchise player. When
- 50:51Speaker 1: is free agency start right on the first day of
- 50:54Speaker 1: the counter league here, okay, you actually can start negotiating
- 50:57Speaker 1: like two days before you a couple days before, So
- 50:59Speaker 1: what number? Okay, there's a deadline about a week before
- 51:02Speaker 1: to determine your franchise player as well, there's like a
- 51:05Speaker 1: three week window somewhere in there to number one. You
- 51:09Speaker 1: can't get more than one, So dance around what you're
- 51:11Speaker 1: doing and everything else. Number one target position, not player
- 51:16Speaker 1: in free agency. I got mine, Okay, I got it.
- 51:24Speaker 1: What is it? Defensive tackle like a like a big
- 51:29Speaker 1: like a nose tackle or three? Either I need somebody
- 51:33Speaker 1: that can play and stop the run inside. It's like
- 51:37Speaker 1: I'll be a frontline free agent like a moleikue mon No, no,
- 51:40Speaker 1: you know, no, but a guy that you hope you
- 51:43Speaker 1: can get a guy at reasonable level of pay and
- 51:46Speaker 1: can produce. Could you pay do you believe in abvery
- 51:50Speaker 1: enough to bring him back to do that? Um? I
- 51:52Speaker 1: would shop. I would shop to improve a position, Tony. Uh.
- 52:00Speaker 1: Number one is tight end that was gonna be mine
- 52:03Speaker 1: as well. I would go get because this is why,
- 52:05Speaker 1: because I think you can afford a good tight end
- 52:07Speaker 1: that can make a difference immediately with your cap issues.
- 52:11Speaker 1: And then in this set, you know, they always have
- 52:13Speaker 1: these tiers like Tier one free agency where you get
- 52:15Speaker 1: your big number guys you have tier two, tier three
- 52:18Speaker 1: and kind of works. And then after I get the
- 52:20Speaker 1: tight end because that's my first target, because I think
- 52:23Speaker 1: I can afford that under the cap structure, and he'll
- 52:25Speaker 1: make a difference in both the passing and running game
- 52:28Speaker 1: immediately been tier two. I'm not looking for a dominant
- 52:33Speaker 1: defense time. I can't afford a dominant defensive tackle on
- 52:36Speaker 1: free agency. I'm looking for big old dudes and just
- 52:39Speaker 1: eat up space to be But that's secondary. I got
- 52:43Speaker 1: you have to have gotten touchdowns? Did in factor when mine?
- 52:47Speaker 1: When I said number one priority, I don't think you're
- 52:49Speaker 1: a player in tier one at all. I think you
- 52:52Speaker 1: are a tight end. I don't I think it tight end.
- 52:54Speaker 1: Haven't we been down this tight end? There are no
- 52:58Speaker 1: tier one, But when I say tier one, I'm talking
- 53:02Speaker 1: to the timing like point. But there is who justifies
- 53:07Speaker 1: free and I've just looked at the list briefly. But
- 53:10Speaker 1: the name that jumped out is Austin Hooper from the
- 53:12Speaker 1: Falcon Falcon and they can't afford to resign him. He
- 53:15Speaker 1: is a free agent. He's an every down in line
- 53:18Speaker 1: tight end. He will be available, but can run block
- 53:21Speaker 1: and it can't affect the past can the Jaguars compete? Okay,
- 53:25Speaker 1: this I already did. I'm ahead of you, so already
- 53:27Speaker 1: looked at this Kelsey. What do you think Kelsey makes
- 53:29Speaker 1: a year? Uh? Not not enough? Yeah, okay, he's making
- 53:33Speaker 1: that nine year nine, ten million dollars year. So Austin
- 53:36Speaker 1: Hooper and getting that, Ah, yeah you will, no, yeah,
- 53:40Speaker 1: you will, guarantee you will. Okay, So let's say it's nine.
- 53:43Speaker 1: I can afford that. Okay, that's my point. That's where
- 53:47Speaker 1: you can. Tight Ends aren't getting paid fifty. We got
- 53:52Speaker 1: a gock Way on the books for nineteen and then
- 53:55Speaker 1: we're gonna pay a tight end nine. But your cap
- 53:58Speaker 1: number won't be nine year one. You can, you can
- 54:01Speaker 1: guarantee it. You can spread it out and make his
- 54:05Speaker 1: down road a little bit. Hopefully he's a good player
- 54:07Speaker 1: and he can play for us for he's a young guy,
- 54:09Speaker 1: can play for four years. We're back in a moment.
- 54:12Speaker 1: We're heavy again, heavy, We're heavy. We've got one more
- 54:15Speaker 1: breaks sneak up on this JP. We'll talk about a
- 54:19Speaker 1: few of these other tight end names that could be
- 54:20Speaker 1: free agents, and what's coming up on Championship weekend. That's
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- 57:50Speaker 1: The Doug Moron Show continues right now. Final moments of
- 57:55Speaker 1: The Doug Moron Show. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lagerman, Tony Bselly.
- 57:59Speaker 1: We are finishing up quickly our tight end discussion. Bleacher
- 58:02Speaker 1: Report has their top five possible free agent tight ends
- 58:06Speaker 1: this year. Austin Hooper one, Hunter Henry to Eric Ebron three,
- 58:12Speaker 1: Jacob Hollister from Seattle four, and Tyler Eiffort five. Um Effort,
- 58:20Speaker 1: Henry and both have been have major injury issues. Ibron
- 58:25Speaker 1: had a great year last year after be just okay
- 58:27Speaker 1: in Detroit. This year was Hurt Hollister. I was very
- 58:30Speaker 1: impressed with was traded from the Patriots to the Seahawks.
- 58:33Speaker 1: Had a very good year. He's a small guy, yeah,
- 58:35Speaker 1: but he's not inline guy. He's a move tight end.
- 58:38Speaker 1: And I like Cooper. I mean he's number one for
- 58:40Speaker 1: a reason. He's an inline tight end. Is you know
- 58:43Speaker 1: a bub average bokerbub, average bass catcher, good football player
- 58:49Speaker 1: and great? No, he's not great, but you know, but
- 58:53Speaker 1: you're gonna be paying. You're paying at the great level
- 58:56Speaker 1: to get good. I don't think you have I don't
- 58:59Speaker 1: think you have to pay as much as you think, Jeff,
- 59:01Speaker 1: I really don't. Championship weekend AFC Championship the Titans and
- 59:05Speaker 1: the Chiefs three or five Eastern time kickoff at Arrowhead Sunday, Tony.
- 59:10Speaker 1: You'll be on the call. I have the Chiefs. I
- 59:13Speaker 1: can't pick it. I'm calling it, Jeff, I got chief
- 59:17Speaker 1: I got I got the Chiefs. The Packers at the
- 59:20Speaker 1: forty Niners at Santa Clair. It's a six forty Eastern
- 59:24Speaker 1: time kickoffs only going faster than we're heavy again, Aaron
- 59:28Speaker 1: Rodgers is gonna be on his back a lot, all right.
- 59:31Speaker 1: That front four is nast they're legit, they're nasty from legit.
- 59:37Speaker 1: That'll do it for the ad. They've got enough high
- 59:40Speaker 1: draft picks on that. Jeff Lagman, Tony Boselli, I'm JP Shatter.
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