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- 0:01Speaker 1: Yeah, come on in. Hi, I'm Davey, and this is
- 0:06A Day in the Life of a Real Shark.
- 0:08Speaker 2: I remember when I was 12 years old.
- 0:11Speaker 1: What are you doing?
- 0:13Speaker 3: Nothing. Sorry. Let's go. Last season on Shark Tank Australia,
- 0:24I missed so many good deals. This time I'm gonna
- 0:26be hungrier than ever.
- 0:34Speaker 1: Alrighty, the vlogs are back.
- 0:36Speaker 3: We're doing Shark Tank season two, so we're about to
- 0:38fly over to Sydney, gonna be very exciting. I thought
- 0:40I'd take the opportunity to answer all of your major
- 0:42questions about Shark Tank. The top Google questions such as like,
- 0:46what's your best investment? What happened to your previous investments?
- 0:49Are the arguments real? I saw Stephen Bartlett do this
- 0:51for Dragon 10, thought it was a great idea. Thought
- 0:53it'd be a good way to structure the vlog as well,
- 0:55showing you what we're up to.
- 0:56Speaker 2: Let's get into it.
- 1:06Speaker 3: I don't know why people think that sharks don't invest
- 1:09their own money.
- 1:10Speaker 1: It must have been like a rumor in the.
- 1:12Speaker 3: Early Shark Tank US seasons where they were using fund
- 1:15managers to fund them. But like the deal size and
- 1:18structures doesn't warrant external investors. A lot of the deals are,
- 1:23you know, under $ 100, 000 and you'd.
- 1:25Speaker 1: Have to pull them all up. But yeah, in long
- 1:27story short, yes, we use all of our own money.
- 1:29And yeah, we're not paid as well to do this show.
- 1:32We all do it for the love of the entrepreneurs.
- 1:35Speaker 3: At the moment, the two best investments that look like
- 1:39they're going to get a really successful exit is we
- 1:42have Mimi & Co.
- 1:43Speaker 1: She's just an absolute machine. Mum packing orders in our basement.
- 1:47Now she's at a 3PL. She's expanding to New Zealand,
- 1:50doing really well.
- 1:51Speaker 3: She did $ 100, 000 in one day with a lot of
- 1:53the daily mentor things that we kind of implemented for her,
- 1:55like doing offers and urgency projects. And then the other
- 1:58one is Suda, which is a suit rental business me
- 2:01and Sabree invested in. And they're doing really, really well.
- 2:04So they've validated in the UK and can probably get
- 2:08some really good results there.
- 2:09Speaker 1: So both of them should have really successful exits.
- 2:11Speaker 3: But these things just take time. Like it took me
- 2:14three years to start pulling money out of it, Woody.
- 2:16Because of the cashflow conversion cycle where you're just constantly
- 2:19investing money into inventory, there's huge uncertainty for the first
- 2:22three years.
- 2:23Speaker 1: So you gotta be patient with them as well.
- 2:36Speaker 3: It's hard for me to tell if other seasons or
- 2:40other countries' Shark Tank, the judges are close.
- 2:43Speaker 1: But you're spending so much time together. It's two weeks,
- 2:46eight hours straight filming.
- 2:48Speaker 3: And you're kind of in the dressing room in between
- 2:50getting makeup and stuff done. So we're all obviously like-minded
- 2:54individuals as well. So you definitely bond a fair bit.
- 2:57And you talk about investments as well. So I'm good
- 3:00friends with Sabree, Jane. Yeah, so I think a lot
- 3:03of them are actually quite close, which is good. That
- 3:06doesn't mean we don't argue or disagree. All of the
- 3:08arguments that you see on Shark Tank are 100% real
- 3:12because it's a heated thing.
- 3:14Speaker 1: You want the good deals, you don't want the bad deals.
- 3:17Speaker 3: And when someone says something wrong or says something bad
- 3:20about you, you need to correct it. Now we're off
- 3:31to our Airbnb. I've also got to go get groceries
- 3:35for the week. I'll run you through what I'm eating
- 3:37at the moment because I'm not a full carnivore anymore.
- 3:39I did that for a little bit. And then we also, yeah,
- 3:41I've got to get my Patek fixed as well because
- 3:45it's just stopped ticking.
- 3:46Speaker 1: Which is not good. After that, then we'll relax. And
- 3:48then tomorrow is the big media day.
- 3:53Speaker 3: So we jump on a call with them and hash
- 3:56out a couple of other terms, parts of the deal
- 3:59and make sure, you know, they're still really comfortable because
- 4:01they get a lot of emotion during the pitch. And
- 4:03then we go through a due diligence process because sometimes
- 4:07these are new founders and they just get things wrong.
- 4:10Like they might not understand the difference between gross profit
- 4:12and net profit. And that's, look, that's fine. Some people
- 4:15are just brand new to business. So we go through
- 4:17a due diligence process to handle that. Some people will...
- 4:22We can use to use like an accounting agency for that.
- 4:24We can even use some of our lawyers to do that.
- 4:27And they go through all of the details and kind
- 4:29of provide a summary report. And then I also get
- 4:32into the details and look at a bunch of things
- 4:34to make sure that, you know, the growth.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Opportunity is still there.
- 4:37Speaker 3: Then the contract stage and then you sign and you
- 4:40kind of get going. I'm at this stage like a
- 4:43lot more heavily involved with my investments compared to the
- 4:46other partners. people are the sharks and that's simply because
- 4:50daily mentor is like one of my main businesses so
- 4:52i have all of those resources and it's kind of
- 4:54like one of the main things that i do whether
- 4:56that's always going to be the case i don't know
- 4:59but yeah it's a pretty demanding process so i did
- 5:02the most deals the first shark tank i don't think
- 5:05i had the capacity to do that many deals this
- 5:07year so i'll have to be a bit more selective
- 5:11no oh they certainly didn't with us none of it's
- 5:14scripted It doesn't need to be scripted. We know what
- 5:19we want to hear about their story, so we ask
- 5:21about that. There's really kind of no need for us
- 5:23to have earpieces in.
- 5:27Speaker 1: So Bondi is.
- 5:28Speaker 3: Some of the most expensive property in the world. Robert Herjavec,
- 5:32he's got like properties in New York, Penthouse, whatever. And
- 5:36he said, for what you spend in Sydney is the
- 5:39most expensive. Like you just don't get much for your money.
- 5:42Last time I was staying here, last season, I was
- 5:44staying at Tamarama Beach.
- 5:46Speaker 1: It was like the beach over. And it was like $ 6, 000
- 5:49a night.
- 5:49Speaker 3: And it was a pretty nice property. Ooh. Ooh. Can't
- 5:59see the lights. This is the shopping list. This is
- 6:01all I've been eating for the past two weeks. Haven't broke. Blueberries, apples, meat.
- 6:06Gotta have the 100% peanut butter, nothing else added to it.
- 6:09And then beef tallow. and salt, pretty much all I've
- 6:12been eating. Used to be full carnivore, got to avoid
- 6:15trigger foods. Some people can have an autoimmune response or
- 6:18eat insulin, but I don't know what it is. But
- 6:20if you eat processed shit, you can get anxious. This
- 6:22keeps my energy completely stable, gets the best performance as well.
- 6:26So hanging out for a cheat meal, but I will
- 6:27do that after Shark Tank.
- 6:44Speaker 1: Hello mate, good to see you again.
- 6:45Speaker 3: You look like a bloody rock star.
- 6:48Speaker 2: Do I?
- 6:48Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. What's happening today?
- 7:00Speaker 2: We are doing photos, media, making some interviews as well.
- 7:05Speaker 3: Hello mate, how are you? We've got you again. Hello. Hi.
- 7:16How are you doing?
- 7:19Speaker 2: Hello.
- 7:19Speaker 3: Oh, good to see you.
- 7:23Speaker 2: We're back.
- 7:25Speaker 3: I'll hold you for.
- 7:29Speaker 2: The next two weeks. Look, I just think it's like
- 7:39when it's two weeks of work, you just don't get
- 7:40any other work done. It's definitely worth it. It's so enjoyable.
- 7:44And life's not always about keeping the same routine, working
- 7:47on the same things all the time. You want to
- 7:49mix it up, you learn a lot from being here.
- 7:59Speaker 3: So we've got, you'll see this on TV. This is
- 8:01where the entrepreneurs come in and they get all excited.
- 8:04And then they go through that door, the elevator, and
- 8:07then they come out the other side.
- 8:09Speaker 1: That in there is.
- 8:11Speaker 3: where they all prepare.
- 8:11Speaker 1: So they come in like three, four.
- 8:13Speaker 3: Hours before and they kind of practice their pitch and whatnot.
- 8:17Then yeah, they walk out through the elevator. This is
- 8:20where they pitch to us. So they stand in the
- 8:21middle there. They've got this big flash, this big spotlight
- 8:24above them. It comes down onto them. I started the footy,
- 8:38and in five years, I hit $ 500 million in e-commerce sales.
- 8:42Now we're a globally recognized brand.
- 8:47Speaker 2: Ooh, strong.
- 8:48Speaker 3: Very strong. So it takes about anywhere from 20 to
- 8:5445 minutes to pitch. We've actually had some at like
- 8:56an hour and a half. After they pitch, they go
- 8:58up there and they see the Shark Tank star to
- 8:59make sure that they're all happy because it's obviously a
- 9:02stressful experience, make sure they're okay. Then they get posts
- 9:04around interviews. Then if, you know, they've got a deal,
- 9:08sometimes we're able to see them, but sometimes we get.
- 9:09Speaker 1: Dragged straight out.
- 9:10Speaker 3: So that's why, you know, we try to touch base
- 9:12with them as soon as the show's over to, you know,
- 9:14because it's quite exciting. So we get here, I think
- 9:19it's like 8 to 8. That was last time, but
- 9:21we need like an hour or so prep. So we
- 9:24generally can get eight or so pitches done because the
- 9:27setup time of the set actually takes a while. So
- 9:29we get downtime, we get 15, 20 minutes in between
- 9:32each pitch.
- 9:49Speaker 1: Have they got the numbers right?
- 9:51Speaker 3: What is the potential? What is the employee cost versus
- 9:55the revenue? If they've got employers, what is their marketing
- 9:57efficiency ratios? How much do they need to spend on
- 9:59marketing versus how many sales they're producing?
- 10:02Speaker 1: Is their sales declining month on month?
- 10:04Speaker 3: Because sometimes it could be growing year on year, but
- 10:06like overall, but at the same time, that July last
- 10:10year was bigger than July this year. And that can
- 10:12kind of be hidden as well. So you're kind of
- 10:14just looking for an upward trajectory as well. And then
- 10:16you're kind of looking at things that aren't actually showing
- 10:19the profit and loss in the balance sheet.
- 10:21Speaker 1: You're looking at.
- 10:21Speaker 3: What future products do they have? Do they have all
- 10:24of their tax compliance? Are they completely compliant across their business?
- 10:27Those kind of things. Shark Tank.
- 10:35Speaker 2: Shark Tank Australia.
- 10:36Speaker 3: Now, Dragonstone's good.
- 10:37Speaker 1: I love Stephen Bartlett. I've been listening to him for
- 10:41a very, very long time.
- 10:42Speaker 2: I like how he brings that energy.
- 10:44Speaker 1: And it just feels a bit slower than Shark Tank.
- 10:47But I always grew up watching Shark Tank.
- 10:49Speaker 3: US, so....
- 11:06Speaker 1: Alrighty, that is a wrap for today. As you can see,
- 11:08it was just photos. The next day, I've got pictures,
- 11:11which is going to be exciting.
- 11:12Speaker 2: So, I'll see you then.
- 11:13Speaker 3: Week two.
- 11:24Speaker 1: Week one was very successful.
- 11:25Speaker 3: Got some great deals.
- 11:26Speaker 1: There was some really good pitches.
- 11:27Speaker 3: There was definitely arguments to get the best pitches. Ingo
- 11:31won most of the arguments, which was good. But yeah,
- 11:34all in all, the team's working really well together. It's
- 11:36making them a good team.
- 11:40Speaker 1: There's definitely some deals that fall through.
- 11:42Speaker 3: Due diligence because the founder just doesn't even know their
- 11:44numbers so there's definitely can be some issues there then
- 11:49even in the process of doing dd you can find
- 11:52out that you know they don't have a patent it's
- 11:54it's not a patent at all it's a registered design
- 11:56or something like that so it's completely understandable then they're
- 11:59often new to the business but that's generally why the
- 12:02deals fall through in dd so for those reasons So
- 12:05recent pitch was definitely difficult for the entrepreneur. They have
- 12:09been running for a decent amount of time and they
- 12:12just have so many diluted focuses.
- 12:15Speaker 1: They're online, they're starting retail.
- 12:17Speaker 3: And due to that lack of focus and clearly communicating,
- 12:21I'm going to take this investment money and pour gasoline
- 12:25on the fire for this opportunity really cost them and
- 12:29caused a Bit of carnage.
- 12:30Speaker 1: What's been your best investment on Shark Tank so far?
- 12:32Speaker 3: I've had a few.
- 12:34Speaker 2: I've had a few that probably worth a few hundred
- 12:36million dollars. But I think the best investment globally was
- 12:40Scrub Daddy. That company's going to get sold.
- 12:42Speaker 1: That was Lori, wasn't it?
- 12:43Speaker 3: Lori.
- 12:44Speaker 2: That company will get sold for $ 800 million.
- 12:46Speaker 3: Wow.
- 12:47Speaker 1: That's huge.
- 12:47Speaker 3: And you got into clothing as well.
- 12:49Speaker 1: Tipsy O's.
- 12:50Speaker 2: I am the clothing guy. Clothing guy.
- 12:52Speaker 3: The U.S.
- 12:52Speaker 1: Shark Tank.
- 12:54Speaker 3: I am the Udi guy. I'm the... The main things
- 13:04that you write in your book, first is the names,
- 13:06so you don't forget, because I forget names so easily.
- 13:09Then you're writing the valuation, and then you're just writing
- 13:11any key figures that they mention, because sometimes they'll mention
- 13:15certain numbers, like even the margin of their product, and
- 13:18then they'll mention their profit, and it doesn't actually match
- 13:21with how many units they've sold, what margin, and it
- 13:23doesn't match their profit. So that indicates that they've been
- 13:26bleeding money somewhere, and the company isn't that efficient.
- 13:29Speaker 1: So really, you're just writing mostly numbers.
- 13:31Speaker 3: Okay guys, we're back. Did you miss us?
- 13:34Speaker 2: Because we missed you.
- 13:37Speaker 3: That's not bad, we nailed it, we're back. Let's do
- 13:47one more, let's do one more. No, let's do one more,
- 13:54one more. I think he nailed that one.
- 14:02Speaker 1: They technically can't pay themselves unless they've raised money.
- 14:05Speaker 3: So the founder's gonna use their savings until they're producing profit.
- 14:09Sometimes that can take a little while. Then, so generally
- 14:12they need to have a job to support them while
- 14:14they're building up their business to be enough where the
- 14:17profit can offset their living expenses. This is why it's
- 14:20very important when you're very young to start a business
- 14:22because you've got no responsibilities and you don't need to
- 14:24pay yourself much. You can just eat ramen noodles.
- 14:26Speaker 2: You know, people always think you have to have a
- 14:28certain amount of money to start a business.
- 14:30Speaker 1: And they say, oh, I don't want to start a
- 14:31business with a certain amount of security. And I'm like,
- 14:33the best time to start a business is.
- 14:35Speaker 2: When you have nothing to lose.
- 14:36Speaker 1: When you're young.
- 14:36Speaker 2: Because you have nothing to lose.
- 14:39Speaker 3: How was it today? It was good. I think there
- 14:42were definitely smaller businesses today in terms of what was
- 14:45being pitched. But I think it was a good TV,
- 14:48which is the main thing. And there was a good
- 14:50deal as well. So, yeah, we're going to repeat that
- 14:52five more times, which should be good. I'll also summarize
- 14:55a couple more lessons as the pitches go on. I'll
- 14:58make you an offer. So I'll offer you $ 250, 000 for
- 15:00the 40% that you're willing to give up because I
- 15:04think that you're still going to need those incentives. But
- 15:07I'll also need.
- 15:08Speaker 1: A $ 5.
- 15:09Speaker 3: Royalty every unit sold until my $ 250, 000 is paid back.
- 15:14Speaker 1: So what do you think?
- 15:16Speaker 3: We decided to go all stick.
- 15:17Speaker 1: Awesome.
- 15:19Speaker 3: Great choice.
- 15:28Speaker 1: Along all my shots equally.
- 15:30Speaker 3: Robert's like my dad though, he's like, I found that
- 15:32Jane is like our best friend. $ 450, 000. Alrighty, so they've
- 15:43seen us at work, but little do you know there's
- 15:45a huge crew that actually made this possible. We've got
- 15:48a camera over here, this is on the big jib,
- 15:51that goes all the way up here and gives us
- 15:52those tiny shots. We've got a camera up here, we've
- 15:56got a camera Over there, which gets the side profile.
- 16:00Then we also have a big stabilizer where they kind
- 16:03of walk around and they can trap people.
- 16:05Speaker 1: And each of these cameras is actually on one of
- 16:08our faces.
- 16:09Speaker 3: So they'll zoom in very closely and that's just so
- 16:12that they don't miss any reaction. So we've got a
- 16:15bunch of people and then there's actually a team of
- 16:17producers and technicians up there somewhere. They're the voice of God.
- 16:22Speaker 1: They tell us when we do something wrong or when
- 16:24we're not paying attention to it.
- 16:26Speaker 3: Another successful day. Got an investment today, which I'm very
- 16:29excited about. Obviously can't disclose anything yet, but I will
- 16:34as soon as we close the deal, which is good. Tomorrow,
- 16:36we'll probably skip tomorrow, but then I'll show you the
- 16:40final day, cover a bit of the wrap party, and then, yeah,
- 16:43I've got the weekend. I'm probably going to fly over
- 16:45to the Gold Coast to inspect a property that I'm
- 16:47looking at and potentially buy that before Bali. Trying to
- 16:50squeeze it in because I really, really love it.
- 16:53Speaker 1: And, yeah, see you tomorrow.
- 16:57Speaker 3: Final day. Final day. It's going to be sad to go,
- 17:00but at the same time, I'm so excited to do
- 17:02other work. What happened yesterday, we had a pretty interesting investment.
- 17:06They were real, like their product was incredible. Their branding
- 17:09was incredible. Their sales were great, great space, but their
- 17:12cap table was a mess. So what a cap table is,
- 17:15is basically the investors that are actually already in the business.
- 17:19And they just had so many different people that were
- 17:22invested in the company. And as an investor, it gets
- 17:24very difficult because you don't know certain shareholders' rights. There's
- 17:28a lot more legal paperwork. What happens if everyone disagrees?
- 17:32And it can sometimes also be an indication that they're
- 17:35just gonna burn cash because they've been raising lots of
- 17:37money and complicating things.
- 17:39Speaker 1: So that was a really interesting one.
- 17:40Speaker 3: So keep your cap table clean if you're coming onto
- 17:43Shark Tank.
- 17:44Speaker 2: Let's do it. Morning.
- 17:57Speaker 3: It was the best pitch ever.
- 17:58Speaker 2: I can't show the product.
- 18:00Speaker 1: She is incredible.
- 18:01Speaker 3: She's gone into all these retail stores in year two.
- 18:04Speaker 2: She's going to do print money.
- 18:05Speaker 3: I reckon she'll do $ 5 million in her third year.
- 18:08I reckon $ 60 million in the year after that. It's
- 18:11going to explode.
- 18:12Speaker 1: Very impressive. The last time.
- 18:19Speaker 2: Yes.
- 18:19Speaker 3: The last pitch. The last hairspray in the eyes. Yes.
- 18:29Speaker 2: Level of professionalism this year.
- 18:31Speaker 3: I just want to thank all of you for this
- 18:36amazing production.
- 18:37Speaker 2: I didn't mean.
- 18:37Speaker 3: To get up here and talk. But I had a
- 18:41lot of fun and I just want to thank everybody.
- 18:43I know all the charts from all of us.
- 18:46Speaker 2: I'm here for you.
- 18:59Speaker 3: And that is a wrap. Shark Tank Season 2. Make
- 19:02sure you tune in.
- 19:03Speaker 1: That's a wrap for the vlog as well.
- 19:04Speaker 3: See you next time.