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- 0:23Speaker 1: This is ridiculous history, a show based in Atlanta, a
- 0:27Speaker 1: city that loves brunch. I promise I'm going somewhere with this. Hi.
- 0:31Speaker 1: My name is ben my name is nol and ben
- 0:34Speaker 1: um egged me up before you go go there we go,
- 0:37Speaker 1: There we go. Lego my egg, egg go give me
- 0:41Speaker 1: back my eggs? Yes, okay, Well after the show, you'll
- 0:45Speaker 1: pry these eggs from my cold dead hands. Eggs. Right,
- 0:49Speaker 1: when you think of brunch, or when you think of breakfast,
- 0:52Speaker 1: you typically think of a few things, and one of
- 0:55Speaker 1: the main stars of the breakfast pantheon is going to
- 0:58Speaker 1: be the humble, ubiquitous egg. Are you? Are you an
- 1:01Speaker 1: egg fan Benedict Florentine omelets scrambled a poached egg fan
- 1:08Speaker 1: of recent times and not like a good old boiled
- 1:10Speaker 1: egg myself. So yes, yes, I'm an eggenthusiast. You're an
- 1:13Speaker 1: egg enthusiastal Earlier before we hopped on air for this episode,
- 1:18Speaker 1: we were talking about the type of food preparation known
- 1:22Speaker 1: as deviling right, and we had to look it up
- 1:25Speaker 1: because it's strange when you think of deviled eggs or
- 1:28Speaker 1: deviled ham, and there's a curious story for that. But
- 1:31Speaker 1: that is not the subject of today's episode. Today's episode
- 1:36Speaker 1: hinges upon the importance of eggs and you, being enthusiast
- 1:42Speaker 1: right bit of an egghead. You've been in situations where
- 1:46Speaker 1: you have to wait in line for brunch or something.
- 1:48Speaker 1: But you're not the type of guy to fight over
- 1:50Speaker 1: an egg, are you. I also very rarely will wait
- 1:53Speaker 1: in line for anything if the line is too long.
- 1:55Speaker 1: I'm I'm, I'm moving on and that's mine. That's the
- 1:58Speaker 1: words I live by. But no, I mean, you know,
- 2:01Speaker 1: you notice how whenever there's a storm and here especially
- 2:04Speaker 1: or like a snowstorm, what's the first thing to go
- 2:06Speaker 1: in the grocery stores? They run through the dairy and
- 2:10Speaker 1: the uh and the bakery in the middle, and the bread,
- 2:13Speaker 1: eggs in the milk food staples. And back in San Francisco, California,
- 2:19Speaker 1: during the gold Rush time in the early eighteen fifties,
- 2:23Speaker 1: a really really really important staple food, a very very
- 2:27Speaker 1: crucial source of protein during a time where that was
- 2:31Speaker 1: very scarce. Because the gold Rush brought out thousands and
- 2:35Speaker 1: thousands of prospectors to San Francisco, which at the time
- 2:39Speaker 1: was a relatively small city that just did not have
- 2:42Speaker 1: the infrastructure or the resources to support those people. Right,
- 2:46Speaker 1: Because the forty Niners, as they were often called, these
- 2:50Speaker 1: gold rush prospectors were coming from across the country to
- 2:56Speaker 1: gamble on the chance of striking it big, but discovered
- 3:00Speaker 1: in a vein of gold. And as we know now,
- 3:03Speaker 1: it's true that some people did find gold, most did not.
- 3:07Speaker 1: We should be very clear about that. But as Noll
- 3:11Speaker 1: has begun to paint the picture for us here, what
- 3:14Speaker 1: they all found was a very difficult environment to live in.
- 3:20Speaker 1: You know, there were a lot of people asking for
- 3:24Speaker 1: the same resources, and as we've seen in other historical instances,
- 3:29Speaker 1: this triggers inflation, This triggers price gouging. The otherwise humble
- 3:36Speaker 1: food stuff known as the egg, available throughout the country
- 3:40Speaker 1: everywhere else, became a relatively rare and high priced commodity.
- 3:46Speaker 1: It's true, like you say, you know, everyone wasn't gonna
- 3:49Speaker 1: strike it rich. In fact, most didn't. In an article
- 3:52Speaker 1: from the San Francisco Gate by Gary kim Ya, he
- 3:55Speaker 1: describes this phenomenon as that there was more money to
- 3:59Speaker 1: be made from vote mining the miners than from actual prospecting. So,
- 4:04Speaker 1: you know, to fill that demand, little food huts kind
- 4:06Speaker 1: of fly by none operations came up overnight, and all
- 4:10Speaker 1: kinds of different businesses sprung up in order to capitalize
- 4:15Speaker 1: on this boom. And one thing they needed. We're cooking ingredients,
- 4:19Speaker 1: right And there's an excellent article by Emmilin Roude writing
- 4:24Speaker 1: over at Time called the Worst that can Happen when
- 4:26Speaker 1: egg prices get too high. In this article, she discusses
- 4:32Speaker 1: some of the specifics and nuts and bolts of this
- 4:35Speaker 1: skyrocketing food situation. One of the primary commodities that shot
- 4:42Speaker 1: up in value was the egg, and it rose to
- 4:46Speaker 1: the price of a dollar per egg in the eighteen fifties,
- 4:49Speaker 1: which is crazy expensive now, but let's consider that in
- 4:54Speaker 1: our time that's roughly the equivalent of thirty dollars per
- 4:58Speaker 1: an egg. Man, I don't I could ever want an
- 5:01Speaker 1: egg that much. No, I don't you know. I don't
- 5:05Speaker 1: know what I would do with it. I would feel
- 5:07Speaker 1: bad eating it. I would feel like I have to
- 5:10Speaker 1: put it in a in a like a box or terrarium.
- 5:12Speaker 1: But I guess we have to remember here too, this
- 5:14Speaker 1: was not the price was not that way because it
- 5:16Speaker 1: was necessarily a delicacy. There just weren't enough to go around,
- 5:18Speaker 1: so it was a scarcity issue, and there was still
- 5:22Speaker 1: a good shipping infrastructure in place at the time, so
- 5:25Speaker 1: eggs were being shipped in by the millions from across
- 5:29Speaker 1: the Pacific, even all the way from the East Coast,
- 5:31Speaker 1: and it still was not enough to satiate the teeming
- 5:36Speaker 1: mass of people there. And that's why San Francisco eventually
- 5:41Speaker 1: turned its eyes west to the islands of the Pacific,
- 5:46Speaker 1: to a very specific island. That's right, There is an island,
- 5:50Speaker 1: or a system of islands, just about thirty miles outside
- 5:53Speaker 1: of the Golden gate Um in San Francisco called the
- 5:57Speaker 1: Fair Lawns, and they are actually the site of the
- 6:01Speaker 1: largest colony of sea birds anywhere in the contiguous United States.
- 6:07Speaker 1: And those birds are the common mures. Yes, the common
- 6:11Speaker 1: mures are the star of today's show. The the islands
- 6:16Speaker 1: themselves are home to a little less than four hundred
- 6:21Speaker 1: different species of birds, and the birds at this time
- 6:24Speaker 1: we're doing quite well because during the maritime fur trade,
- 6:29Speaker 1: Russian sealers seal hunters got rid of the vast majority
- 6:35Speaker 1: of the mammals that would be there, right, that's right,
- 6:39Speaker 1: But there's still to this day these islands are home
- 6:42Speaker 1: to tons of different marine creatures like sea lions, elephant
- 6:47Speaker 1: seal which can grow to be the size of like
- 6:48Speaker 1: a van um, and swimming around the edges you got
- 6:53Speaker 1: great white sharks, yes, and whales, which I think would
- 6:57Speaker 1: be so cool to see in person. There's actually an
- 6:59Speaker 1: article the New York Times where Bonnie Suiti um takes
- 7:03Speaker 1: a whale uh watching expedition out to these islands and
- 7:07Speaker 1: spots all kinds of fantastic wildlife. Um. The islands were
- 7:12Speaker 1: called the Devil's Teeth back in the early eighteen fifties
- 7:18Speaker 1: UM by sailors, and that's because they were particularly treacherous
- 7:22Speaker 1: and they caused quite a few shipwrecks. And it's true
- 7:25Speaker 1: these are very intense, jagged looking cliffs. I think the
- 7:29Speaker 1: highest point is three hundred feet UM. And they were
- 7:33Speaker 1: actually formed uh between eighty two hundred million years ago
- 7:39Speaker 1: UM when the Pacific plate collided with the North American plate,
- 7:43Speaker 1: and they weren't always islands, they eventually drifted and became
- 7:48Speaker 1: islands because of plate tectonic activity. In fact, they were
- 7:52Speaker 1: largely responsible for blocking the view of the San Francisco
- 7:56Speaker 1: Harbor to Spanish galleons that would sail through there for
- 8:00Speaker 1: two hundred years. Yeah, and now, thankfully we'll give you
- 8:03Speaker 1: a spoiler alert here, friends and neighbors. Uh. Now, thankfully
- 8:07Speaker 1: the marine mammals have made a return to the island.
- 8:12Speaker 1: But in the mid eighteen hundreds this population was in
- 8:17Speaker 1: serious trouble, which was good in the short term for
- 8:22Speaker 1: the birds. Who was literally for the birds. I was
- 8:26Speaker 1: waiting on that one. And so Noel, let's let's go
- 8:28Speaker 1: back to what you mentioned. Specifically, we're looking at a
- 8:32Speaker 1: bird called the common mure m u r r E.
- 8:36Speaker 1: It's an arc a u k. This large arc sits
- 8:40Speaker 1: upright on sea cliffs and people will describe it as
- 8:44Speaker 1: the northern version of a penguin. And we've got some
- 8:48Speaker 1: pretty we've got some pretty cool info on it, courtesy
- 8:51Speaker 1: of the good folks over at Audubon dot Org. Noel
- 8:56Speaker 1: and I and our super producer, Casey Pegram. I can't
- 9:00Speaker 1: believe we forgot to shot him out at the beginning. No,
- 9:03Speaker 1: it's cool. We saved it. We saved it. We say,
- 9:05Speaker 1: it's a cold open. So these these birds, according to
- 9:09Speaker 1: this stuff we were watching before we went into the
- 9:11Speaker 1: studio today, Uh, they look kind of awkward on land.
- 9:15Speaker 1: Not a pun, but it could be. Yeah, there's sort
- 9:17Speaker 1: of like these unwieldy penguin like creatures. And they do
- 9:21Speaker 1: fly um pretty poorly. Uh, they're much better at swimming
- 9:25Speaker 1: and diving to catch fish. And they nest on these
- 9:30Speaker 1: really really steep and slippery cliffs on the side of
- 9:35Speaker 1: these islands. And it's it's really a thing to behold.
- 9:38Speaker 1: Ben there are thousands and thousands of them nesting and
- 9:41Speaker 1: really close quarters on these super treacherous cliffs. Uh not,
- 9:46Speaker 1: it's a very comfortable situation at all, right, right, and
- 9:50Speaker 1: not particularly inviting to us humans unless we were driven
- 9:54Speaker 1: there out of desperation. In these nests, most importantly, they
- 10:00Speaker 1: have eggs. Uh. They typically have one egg, and the
- 10:06Speaker 1: incubation period is about thirty seven days. After that, the
- 10:11Speaker 1: young when they're born, they leave the nest between fifteen
- 10:15Speaker 1: and twenty five days later. The eggs themselves, however, are
- 10:20Speaker 1: very interesting and they do not look in any way
- 10:24Speaker 1: related to the chicken eggs that were so common and
- 10:28Speaker 1: so familiar to the San Franciscans of the time. And
- 10:31Speaker 1: first of all, they're about twice as big, and they
- 10:34Speaker 1: are oddly pointed on one end. Yes, they are puriform,
- 10:39Speaker 1: which is the word we learned for today's episode. Oh
- 10:42Speaker 1: my gosh, I don't know that one, Ben, it's what
- 10:44Speaker 1: it sounds like on the tin. It's that's slightly rounded,
- 10:47Speaker 1: pyramid like top. They look like cone heads. That's what
- 10:51Speaker 1: they look like. But they're also quite beautiful. They they
- 10:54Speaker 1: are speckle. They can be light blue, and apparently some
- 10:59Speaker 1: ornithologists believe that each one had a unique speckled pattern
- 11:03Speaker 1: that allowed them to be identified by the parent. Because
- 11:06Speaker 1: they're nesting in such close quarters, if they didn't have
- 11:09Speaker 1: some distinguishing factor, that might be hard for them to
- 11:12Speaker 1: know which which egg belonged to them. Yeah, it looks
- 11:14Speaker 1: kind of like a Jackson Pollock painting. And I think
- 11:18Speaker 1: a new one on every egg. And I think you
- 11:20Speaker 1: and I were both surprised when we learned that there
- 11:24Speaker 1: had been intense research into the reasoning behind this this
- 11:29Speaker 1: egg shape and design. So originally people believe the shape
- 11:33Speaker 1: of the egg was an adaptation to prevent it from
- 11:35Speaker 1: rolling off the cliff. That's right, and that sort of
- 11:38Speaker 1: evolved over time. UM. It was debunked in the mid
- 11:41Speaker 1: nineteen hundreds when um naturalists believed that the eggs shape
- 11:46Speaker 1: would allow it to roll in a perfect arc that
- 11:49Speaker 1: would keep it from tumbling off of the cliffs, like
- 11:51Speaker 1: you said. But then a British ornithologist named Tim burkehead
- 11:55Speaker 1: Um published a study leaving seen that Um sort of
- 12:00Speaker 1: debunked that one. He says, it's a combination of cleanliness
- 12:04Speaker 1: and protection because the common mirrors are such horrible, horrible,
- 12:10Speaker 1: ghastly flyers. They can crean into other nests. And his
- 12:16Speaker 1: theory is that the shape allows it to make better
- 12:18Speaker 1: contact with the ground, therefore offering more protection against potential collisions. Yeah,
- 12:25Speaker 1: increasing surface area. And we should mention that this ornithologist,
- 12:30Speaker 1: Tim burkehead has studied mirrors for forty four years. He
- 12:34Speaker 1: knows his mirrors. He's the mirror guy. I always have
- 12:37Speaker 1: so much respect for someone who has a specific area
- 12:40Speaker 1: of expertise, and he's almost fifty years into the bird game. Man.
- 12:44Speaker 1: He also has some great points. I appreciate that you
- 12:47Speaker 1: mentioned cleanliness because, as he's quoted in this article from Audubon, UH,
- 12:52Speaker 1: the other feature of mirror breeding, Ledges, says Birkhead, is
- 12:56Speaker 1: that they are invariably filthy. Sometimes it's like going into
- 13:01Speaker 1: a pig sty. It's like a toilet, it's like a
- 13:03Speaker 1: mountain toilet. There are a lot of things, but there
- 13:05Speaker 1: wouldn't be great roommates these mirrors. He says that the
- 13:09Speaker 1: guana and dirt that encrusted and incubating egg can clog
- 13:12Speaker 1: up the pores that allow chicks to breathe and also
- 13:16Speaker 1: cause infection. And that's when he found that it wasn't
- 13:19Speaker 1: just the rough shape of the egg, but it was
- 13:21Speaker 1: also the concentration of pores and where they occur. The
- 13:25Speaker 1: greatest concentration pours from your egg is around the egg's
- 13:29Speaker 1: large blunt end, and it's raised above the ground by
- 13:32Speaker 1: that downward angle tip. Okay, we have derailed ourselves with
- 13:35Speaker 1: some really fascinating stuff about the science behind these creatures
- 13:38Speaker 1: and their eggs, and a little bit about these islands.
- 13:41Speaker 1: But what was the deal ben with the situation the
- 13:44Speaker 1: scarcity of eggs that caused folks to brave these treacherous
- 13:48Speaker 1: waters and these slippery slopes to get those delectable eggs.
- 14:00Speaker 1: So this is where the entrepreneurial spirit kicks in. Six
- 14:05Speaker 1: men decided to profit from these eggs that were just
- 14:08Speaker 1: a little less than thirty miles off the coast. In
- 14:12Speaker 1: eighteen fifty one, they sailed to the Fara Lawn Islands.
- 14:15Speaker 1: They decided that they owned the islands. They gave themselves ownership.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Just you can do that, you could, apparently, I guess
- 14:24Speaker 1: you just gotta like defend it, which which we'll get
- 14:27Speaker 1: into in a minute, right right. They gave themselves company
- 14:31Speaker 1: shares and they started attempting to take these eggs with
- 14:37Speaker 1: the with the intention being to sell them in San
- 14:39Speaker 1: Francisco despite their strange appearance. Oh and we almost forgot
- 14:43Speaker 1: the coolest part about the eggs. The blood red yolk,
- 14:46Speaker 1: blood red yoke, and apparently a slight fishy taste. But
- 14:50Speaker 1: it it hit like gangbusters because apparently the chickens, what
- 14:53Speaker 1: little there were in San Francisco, were eaten, so there
- 14:57Speaker 1: were no more hands to lay eggs. So this was
- 14:59Speaker 1: a really big deal. They had a source relatively close by,
- 15:03Speaker 1: although a treacherous trip to get there and to get
- 15:06Speaker 1: him back. Um. And the guy that that that headed
- 15:08Speaker 1: up this expedition was a guy by the name of
- 15:10Speaker 1: Doc Robinson, and he was a pharmacist and he and
- 15:14Speaker 1: his crew made this journey and described it as being
- 15:18Speaker 1: a hellish experience. Uh, and decided they were not going
- 15:21Speaker 1: to do it again. But they would you know, start
- 15:23Speaker 1: a company and hire people to do it for them,
- 15:26Speaker 1: And that was the impetus for the Egg Company. It's
- 15:32Speaker 1: also been called the Pacific Egg Company um ink Pacific
- 15:36Speaker 1: Egg Company Incorporated um but it was the first of
- 15:41Speaker 1: its kind and it very quickly bred kind of copycats
- 15:46Speaker 1: that were like, hey, you can't own a whole island
- 15:49Speaker 1: that's not your island, and where we're gonna, we're gonna
- 15:52Speaker 1: come at you, right. Rival firms began to rise to
- 15:58Speaker 1: the marketplace. These At the beginning, the Egg Company was
- 16:03Speaker 1: doing quite well. As Neal said, they were going like gangbusters.
- 16:07Speaker 1: They were climbing up these stiff, sleek cliffs and then
- 16:11Speaker 1: they were getting swarmed by all the birds there. Uh.
- 16:14Speaker 1: Then they would gather the freshest eggs and really brutal
- 16:17Speaker 1: way they would stomp on the ones that were days
- 16:20Speaker 1: old so that they would have to lay a new
- 16:22Speaker 1: egg because like you were saying, these birds typically only
- 16:25Speaker 1: lay one egg per season, but you know, when you
- 16:28Speaker 1: smash it, they're gonna lay another. One my favorite part
- 16:30Speaker 1: about this, and try to imagine these folks. They had
- 16:33Speaker 1: these special shirts called egg shirts with egg pockets, and
- 16:37Speaker 1: so you got these pictures of these guys with eggs
- 16:40Speaker 1: stuffed in their shirts. And I found a picture actually
- 16:42Speaker 1: from a newspaper, from a Richmond, Virginia newspaper from and
- 16:49Speaker 1: it shows a man falling to his death while having
- 16:53Speaker 1: one of these bizarre looking egg shirts on. He just
- 16:55Speaker 1: looks totally I don't know, kind of misshapen and bloated
- 16:59Speaker 1: with eggs all a while, while these common mirrors are
- 17:02Speaker 1: looking on completely disinterestedly. Yet the demand alone egged them
- 17:08Speaker 1: on in this dangerous mission. I do not apologize for
- 17:12Speaker 1: I have to someone. You must be stopped too late. Man,
- 17:15Speaker 1: I'm holding your hostage. I have all the of all
- 17:17Speaker 1: the eggs. So by h by the early eighteen sixties,
- 17:22Speaker 1: they did have not just some rival firms, but serious competition.
- 17:26Speaker 1: And as we alluded to earlier, the egg companies claim
- 17:31Speaker 1: on these islands was pretty dodgy tentative at best, because
- 17:36Speaker 1: just four years later, President James Buchanan had solidified the
- 17:41Speaker 1: federal government's claim to the land for a lighthouse. So
- 17:45Speaker 1: they were going up against the Feds, and it all
- 17:50Speaker 1: came to a head on a summer day in eighteen
- 17:52Speaker 1: sixty three. Just to add a little point of clarity,
- 17:54Speaker 1: that they were kind of little zones in these islands,
- 17:57Speaker 1: and some had more of the eggs than others. For
- 18:00Speaker 1: northern part was considered far less productive in terms of
- 18:04Speaker 1: eggs and was a lot more treacherous, and Dr Robinson's
- 18:08Speaker 1: egg company occupied the less treacherous, more productive um part
- 18:14Speaker 1: of the island. So uh, there was a group of interlopers,
- 18:19Speaker 1: shall we say um, largely Italian in Greek folks, independent
- 18:24Speaker 1: Italian eggers, they were originally called exactly, they were independent
- 18:27Speaker 1: Italian And there's an interesting political side note on this
- 18:30Speaker 1: that we'll get to a second. But they wrote up
- 18:33Speaker 1: Dr Robinson's folks yell at them saying, you know, they
- 18:35Speaker 1: says something like land at your own peril or something
- 18:38Speaker 1: like that, to which the these interlopers respond that they
- 18:42Speaker 1: were going to land in spite of hell. And then
- 18:45Speaker 1: they returned the next day to give that a shot.
- 18:49Speaker 1: And the paper loved this. Uh. The papers were calling
- 18:53Speaker 1: it a war in Earnest at the Faro lawns. We
- 18:56Speaker 1: have a quote from here at seven o'clock yesterday. More
- 19:00Speaker 1: they tried to land, this being the Italians and the Greeks,
- 19:03Speaker 1: but we're warned off by the foreman of the egg
- 19:06Speaker 1: company and five other employees. The latter say that the
- 19:09Speaker 1: Italians then commenced firing on the Americans. Several volleys were exchanged.
- 19:14Speaker 1: Edward Perkins, one of the Americans on shore, was shot
- 19:17Speaker 1: through the stomach and died in a few minutes. Thereafter
- 19:20Speaker 1: a number of Italians were seen to fall into the
- 19:22Speaker 1: boat simultaneously with the firing on shore, which is strange
- 19:26Speaker 1: because we can feel some racial tension or some ethnic
- 19:29Speaker 1: tension that the paper is putting in there. Ultimately, two
- 19:34Speaker 1: men were killed in the conflict, one on each side,
- 19:37Speaker 1: so one of the egg company members and one of
- 19:40Speaker 1: the Italian eggers. Uh, the leader of the independent folks,
- 19:45Speaker 1: the one who most probably said we're gonna land here
- 19:47Speaker 1: in spite of hell, was ultimately convicted of murder and
- 19:51Speaker 1: sent up the river to the state prison for a year,
- 19:54Speaker 1: just a year, just a year, which makes you makes
- 19:57Speaker 1: you wonder. And this, even this did not stop the
- 20:01Speaker 1: demand for these eggs, which were also that yoke was
- 20:04Speaker 1: twice the size of a chicken egg. So it was
- 20:06Speaker 1: pretty nutritious, a lot of bang for your buck, but
- 20:08Speaker 1: but pretty pricey, like you're saying, EARI with the inflation
- 20:10Speaker 1: rate putting in about thirty bucks an egg, although you
- 20:13Speaker 1: could get a dozen for a dollar in certain circumstances.
- 20:18Speaker 1: But because of the work that it took to get
- 20:20Speaker 1: these things, and like you know, people did fall to
- 20:22Speaker 1: their deaths. It's just the great white shark infested waters.
- 20:26Speaker 1: No one was going to part with these things for
- 20:27Speaker 1: any less than top dollar. Um. There's a really fantastic
- 20:31Speaker 1: comic that a writer and illustrator from San Francisco named
- 20:35Speaker 1: Eva chris Anth wrote on her blog farllon egg war
- 20:38Speaker 1: dot blogspot dot com. She's got all kinds of really
- 20:40Speaker 1: great chronicle or of this whole story, and she talks
- 20:44Speaker 1: about that racial tension. Um. She has a panel that
- 20:47Speaker 1: describes three different men. Um, what kind of man would
- 20:50Speaker 1: risk his life for a sea bird egg? She asks,
- 20:53Speaker 1: you want to read a couple, Yeah, let's read a
- 20:54Speaker 1: couple of the first one. Um says this. It's got
- 20:57Speaker 1: a picture of this man, mustachioed, fair haired man, and
- 21:01Speaker 1: this is the speech Bubble says, Like many other Northern
- 21:04Speaker 1: Italians in the years before unification, I fled the forced
- 21:08Speaker 1: conscription of the Austrian army. Instead, I fought alongside Garibaldi
- 21:12Speaker 1: in Brazil democracy. I was a fool. Now I see
- 21:16Speaker 1: the democracy is just an illusion, like justice, salvation and gold.
- 21:19Speaker 1: For how many men will realize such riches? From Brazil,
- 21:22Speaker 1: I took a job on a whaling ship, the most
- 21:24Speaker 1: beast you'll work on Earth besides this, and when gold
- 21:28Speaker 1: was found in California, our ship came here. And this
- 21:31Speaker 1: is coming specifically from a blog in reaction to an
- 21:35Speaker 1: earlier in PR piece by the Kitchen Sisters that details
- 21:40Speaker 1: the war. Uh. This, this blog piece from August is
- 21:44Speaker 1: called what MPR left out because she was actually interviewed
- 21:47Speaker 1: in that piece for two hours and feels like the
- 21:50Speaker 1: Kitchen Sisters piece, which is really cool and richly sound design,
- 21:52Speaker 1: is really really interesting, it does leave out this, uh,
- 21:55Speaker 1: this racial angle entirely right right, and it's a very
- 21:58Speaker 1: important part of the story. So our second person says
- 22:01Speaker 1: he has a a larger mustache, darker hair. He says,
- 22:05Speaker 1: I fought for Greek independence from Turkey, and we did
- 22:08Speaker 1: free ourselves into hunger, chaos and a corrupt Bavarian monarchy
- 22:13Speaker 1: and Athens. If you only knew what a mess Europe
- 22:16Speaker 1: is now and all because of man. But now in
- 22:19Speaker 1: this strange new land, rich in water, rich in animal
- 22:22Speaker 1: life rich impossibility. I finally feel free here, I dream again.
- 22:28Speaker 1: Am I wrong to feel hope? And we have one
- 22:31Speaker 1: other paneling the last one. Um is a clean shaven man.
- 22:36Speaker 1: I'm with a nice pork pie hat kind of situation.
- 22:38Speaker 1: He says that this is really sad. He says, the
- 22:40Speaker 1: tax collector in Medina tightened up its grip on my
- 22:43Speaker 1: farm and my family. They finally seized the land the
- 22:46Speaker 1: day after my son died of malaria. My wife went
- 22:49Speaker 1: mad and stabbed the tax collector. Then she took her
- 22:52Speaker 1: own life. I do not know what will happen to
- 22:54Speaker 1: me in California, but I pray that it does not
- 22:56Speaker 1: get worse, because trust me, things can always get worse.
- 23:00Speaker 1: And what what this comic and and most of the
- 23:02Speaker 1: Continental blog is really about is the fact that these
- 23:06Speaker 1: men that were uh a working for the egg company
- 23:10Speaker 1: in the first place, or going independent, trying to go
- 23:13Speaker 1: independent and fight against the egg company and their dominance,
- 23:16Speaker 1: their stranglehold over this island, they were just desperate and
- 23:21Speaker 1: willing to do the work. Yeah, that's that's the thing.
- 23:23Speaker 1: Because you will hear different opinions from various historians and
- 23:27Speaker 1: researchers on the nature of these Eggman, these these eggers.
- 23:33Speaker 1: As recently as two thousand five, and author named Susan
- 23:36Speaker 1: Casey described the eggman as mafioso in her book The
- 23:40Speaker 1: Devil's Teeth. This seems like more of a subjective belief
- 23:46Speaker 1: rather than something's backed up with primary documentation, because, as
- 23:50Speaker 1: chrisanth points out, there was not a mafia presence in
- 23:54Speaker 1: California for nearly a century, and in the early eight hundreds,
- 23:58Speaker 1: most of the Imma insto San Francisco who came from
- 24:01Speaker 1: Italy came from northern Italy, which did not have the mafia.
- 24:05Speaker 1: And and the thing is, like this egg war, it's
- 24:08Speaker 1: not really referring to this one battle. I mean, the
- 24:10Speaker 1: battle was kind of like it bubbled over and there
- 24:12Speaker 1: was actual violence, but there was always a little scraps periodically,
- 24:16Speaker 1: and there was always that vying for the best real
- 24:19Speaker 1: estate on this island because the egg company didn't own
- 24:21Speaker 1: the island, right, not really, they can't. They can't go
- 24:25Speaker 1: against the Feds with have the more most manpower, I guess.
- 24:28Speaker 1: And to show how how tense this situation was, there
- 24:31Speaker 1: were also egg pirates, literal egg pirates. There were some
- 24:36Speaker 1: there were some folks who said you know, why should
- 24:39Speaker 1: we have to go risk our lives on the slopes
- 24:42Speaker 1: when we could hang out here on the water and
- 24:44Speaker 1: just take eggs from boats that were on the way
- 24:46Speaker 1: back to San Francisco. I read, um, I'm trying to
- 24:49Speaker 1: find the source. So here it is. It was in
- 24:51Speaker 1: the time piece. Um. Apparently one expedition during this nesting
- 24:55Speaker 1: season for these birds. Uh, they would get five hundred
- 24:59Speaker 1: thousand and eggs, which just goes to show like, how
- 25:02Speaker 1: damn many of these things there were. Because again, typically
- 25:06Speaker 1: these birds were only laying a single egg per season,
- 25:11Speaker 1: and this had and as you might assume, detrimental effect
- 25:15Speaker 1: upon the breeding population, this was not a sustainable practice
- 25:21Speaker 1: over the long term. Now, the populations dwindled from hundreds
- 25:25Speaker 1: of thousands of birds before the egging began in the
- 25:29Speaker 1: eighteen fifties to fewer than thirty thousand. Luckily for us,
- 25:38Speaker 1: this story of ridiculous history does have a happy ending,
- 25:42Speaker 1: because the birds are still around with the hundreds of
- 25:45Speaker 1: other seabird species that continue to live and breed on
- 25:50Speaker 1: the island. We're gonna go ahead and tell you it's
- 25:53Speaker 1: kind of tough to get there. It's really tough to
- 25:55Speaker 1: get there. And it has been declared a National Wildlife
- 25:57Speaker 1: Refuge site and it is pretty much uninhabited except for
- 26:02Speaker 1: a small research station. Um and the birds are protected
- 26:06Speaker 1: and you can ask for permission to go to the
- 26:08Speaker 1: island that is very rarely granted. Appounting right, you and
- 26:12Speaker 1: I would definitely have to put some planning into it.
- 26:14Speaker 1: You can see footage of people arriving to the island
- 26:17Speaker 1: and one of the things that struck me was after
- 26:20Speaker 1: they sail out to the island, they have to get
- 26:22Speaker 1: in a different boat and be lifted via crane onto
- 26:26Speaker 1: the island. Crane is in a human built crane, not
- 26:29Speaker 1: a not a bird. That would be infinitely cooler. That'd
- 26:31Speaker 1: be cool of a completely absurd uh. And you know,
- 26:34Speaker 1: sweep sweep the leg, sweep sweep the leg. I can't
- 26:38Speaker 1: believe did you just cobra kai references? So what we
- 26:42Speaker 1: do also want to point out here is that despite
- 26:46Speaker 1: their success in re growing the population and recovering the
- 26:52Speaker 1: population of the common mure, the fact remains that as
- 26:55Speaker 1: we record this, there are fewer common mures on the
- 27:00Speaker 1: island then there were before the Gold Rush, more than
- 27:04Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty years ago. Yeah, and there there
- 27:06Speaker 1: had been around four hundred thousand. There's another stat that
- 27:09Speaker 1: I saw, and it dwindled down to closer to six
- 27:12Speaker 1: thousand because of this just rapacious behavior by these eggers.
- 27:17Speaker 1: And I have to say, I don't wanna, I don't
- 27:20Speaker 1: want to put you on the spot here, Nol, but
- 27:22Speaker 1: it's very interesting to me that your pro egg because
- 27:25Speaker 1: you're so anti bird. I am very anti bird. Um.
- 27:28Speaker 1: I Also, when I eat chicken, I don't like to
- 27:31Speaker 1: think of what it used to be. Yeah, I do
- 27:34Speaker 1: like chicken, though, um Ben, do you know what actually
- 27:36Speaker 1: finally put a stop to this, uh, this unchecked egging. Well,
- 27:41Speaker 1: I hope this isn't a quisters segment. I'm gonna say,
- 27:45Speaker 1: chicken farming. You got it, um, Chicken farming became a
- 27:49Speaker 1: thing in nearby Petaluma and became a huge industry, and
- 27:53Speaker 1: that took the pressure off for getting that sweet, sweet
- 27:57Speaker 1: protein thankfully. Yes, And this felt like a too little,
- 28:01Speaker 1: too late situation initially because as we said, the population
- 28:06Speaker 1: had dropped, but luckily the birds were able to recover.
- 28:10Speaker 1: And after this titular event, this this war, which lasted
- 28:15Speaker 1: historians guest around twenty minutes, actually still not the shortest
- 28:19Speaker 1: war in history, but that's a story for a different day.
- 28:22Speaker 1: After this war, the eggers continued to work on the
- 28:27Speaker 1: island for another couple of decades, about twenty years, until
- 28:31Speaker 1: they were finally evicted in eight eight one. But the
- 28:35Speaker 1: trade didn't stop even then. It persisted for a number
- 28:38Speaker 1: of years afterward. Yeah, and even today. I mean I've
- 28:41Speaker 1: heard of people going, you know, they visit San Francisco
- 28:44Speaker 1: or no about like they called summer gull egg season
- 28:47Speaker 1: or something like that, so you can get you can
- 28:49Speaker 1: get fresh gull egg. It's probably super illegal. It's poaching,
- 28:52Speaker 1: I think, right, would you have ever eaten a goal egg?
- 28:55Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I think the most exotic
- 28:57Speaker 1: egg I've ever eaten was a quail egg. I don't know.
- 29:01Speaker 1: I don't see why not they It just seems like
- 29:03Speaker 1: they taste weird. I don't know. If it's not an
- 29:06Speaker 1: endangered species, I think egg wise, I would generally be okay.
- 29:11Speaker 1: But also when we have been traveling, weather for work
- 29:15Speaker 1: or weather for fun, anytime we're near a large coastal area,
- 29:20Speaker 1: goals are like the roughest characters you're gonna meet. I
- 29:23Speaker 1: was actually in San Francisco a little less than a
- 29:25Speaker 1: month ago for work and goals. I think are probably
- 29:29Speaker 1: the source of my bird phobia. And when my grandfather
- 29:31Speaker 1: when I was a kid, my grandfather UM would have
- 29:34Speaker 1: the gulls swarm me on the beach. So when I
- 29:36Speaker 1: was in San Francisco, I always look askance, Yeah, you
- 29:38Speaker 1: could throw bird bread crumbs in the I have this
- 29:40Speaker 1: memory of being a little kid and seeing these things
- 29:42Speaker 1: die bombing me from the sky. Um, And I think
- 29:45Speaker 1: that is the source of my my fear. Um. But
- 29:48Speaker 1: when I'm out west, I always look askance at those
- 29:52Speaker 1: creepy guys. I feel like they're always trying to come
- 29:54Speaker 1: at me, their eyeballing me from the side and plan
- 29:57Speaker 1: their attack. That's a harrowing experience. This is the first
- 30:00Speaker 1: time you told me that story. I'm glad you're okay.
- 30:03Speaker 1: It might all just be coming back to me now,
- 30:05Speaker 1: like literally this moment I finally see the source. It's
- 30:07Speaker 1: like I'm being flooded with all this emotion and memory.
- 30:10Speaker 1: I can tell, I can tell it's it's written in
- 30:12Speaker 1: large font on your in your body language. But I
- 30:15Speaker 1: promise you this casey and I and hopefully you as
- 30:18Speaker 1: well fellow listeners, will protect you and will not throw
- 30:22Speaker 1: bread at you. Please don't, um Ben. I really enjoyed
- 30:25Speaker 1: this episode. I thought this was a really fascinating story
- 30:27Speaker 1: with a lot of fun little side nuggets. UM. So
- 30:30Speaker 1: I think we can wrap it up, but I would
- 30:32Speaker 1: love it if we could do a couple of listener mails.
- 30:37Speaker 1: That sounds like a great idea. You want to do
- 30:39Speaker 1: one each? That sounds good, sir. I will go first,
- 30:41Speaker 1: Ben to get mine out of the way, because mine
- 30:43Speaker 1: is a message of shame. UM. J. Robert Joseph wrote
- 30:48Speaker 1: in very kindly, and he mentioned this about our four
- 30:52Speaker 1: g T forty Enzo Ferrari versus Ford, the second UM
- 30:56Speaker 1: Podcast episode UM, and he had a little correct and
- 31:00Speaker 1: for me. He said, quote you mentioned that cars in
- 31:02Speaker 1: the twenty four hour lament went around two fifty miles
- 31:05Speaker 1: per hour at that time nineteen fifty. Only one car
- 31:08Speaker 1: had broken the two hundred mile per hour barrier. It
- 31:10Speaker 1: was the Sunbeam one HP back in nineteen seven, but
- 31:14Speaker 1: until nineteen eighty seven no other car hit two hundred
- 31:17Speaker 1: miles per hour with the Ferrari F forty. UM. The
- 31:21Speaker 1: time period you mentioned in the podcast was circuit nineteen fifty.
- 31:23Speaker 1: At that time, the average lap times of a Laman's
- 31:26Speaker 1: car was eighty nine miles per hour, with the fastest
- 31:28Speaker 1: laps being done at hundred and two. Small detail, but
- 31:32Speaker 1: I'm a little bit of a petrol head. Thank you,
- 31:34Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna read you my response that I
- 31:35Speaker 1: wrote to j Robert Hi there. First off, let me
- 31:38Speaker 1: put on my best Homer Simpson voice when I say
- 31:42Speaker 1: I am admittedly and I even admitted on the podcast
- 31:44Speaker 1: not a petrol head, and somehow got that stat utterly wrong.
- 31:48Speaker 1: I'll be sure, and mentioned on the next one we record,
- 31:50Speaker 1: thanks for listening, and here I am doing that thing,
- 31:52Speaker 1: So thank you very much for the correction. You're absolutely right,
- 31:55Speaker 1: and yeah I screwed up. Don't beat yourself up, and
- 32:00Speaker 1: thanks for checking. I want to okay, Well if you
- 32:03Speaker 1: I'm not gonna throw bread at you either way. We
- 32:06Speaker 1: had another We had another mentioned that in the two
- 32:10Speaker 1: thousand sixteen Lament that we mentioned towards the end of
- 32:14Speaker 1: that episode we said Porsha placed first, Porsche placed first
- 32:18Speaker 1: in its class, and Ford placed first and third in
- 32:22Speaker 1: its class, so it was not all a hard luck story.
- 32:26Speaker 1: But thanks so much for writing in, sir. We have
- 32:29Speaker 1: one other email that fascinated all three of us, Casey
- 32:32Speaker 1: Nolan myself, and it is from a you mean Hello.
- 32:35Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of the podcast. My name is
- 32:37Speaker 1: you Me, and I'm a Japanese American raised in the US,
- 32:40Speaker 1: but born and currently living in Japan. I just finished
- 32:43Speaker 1: listening to the CAPS episode and I wanted to comment
- 32:45Speaker 1: and share some insight into emoji. I'm an English teacher,
- 32:49Speaker 1: but a believer in descriptivism over prescriptivism when it comes
- 32:53Speaker 1: to language, which I love that point. I completely agree
- 32:56Speaker 1: with you you Me continues. As I teach in Anish
- 33:00Speaker 1: school that allows non native teachers. We all use the
- 33:03Speaker 1: texting app line capital L I N E, which is
- 33:06Speaker 1: Japanese and predominant form of texting in Asia. But on
- 33:09Speaker 1: top of that, my main source of understanding emoji use
- 33:12Speaker 1: actually comes from my experience with dating apps. I used
- 33:15Speaker 1: a few internationally popular ones. I live relatively close to Tokyo,
- 33:18Speaker 1: so I had a few observations I think you might
- 33:20Speaker 1: find interesting. I'm not going to read the whole thing,
- 33:22Speaker 1: but I'm going to do some excerpts here. Uh the
- 33:25Speaker 1: hands folded together. These are used to mean please by
- 33:28Speaker 1: Japanese people, often put at the end of the request.
- 33:31Speaker 1: It's the suggested emoji when I type please into the
- 33:33Speaker 1: line app, the eggplant emoji, which is infamous here in
- 33:38Speaker 1: the States, by the way, was says, you mean universally
- 33:41Speaker 1: used by creeps outside of Japan, as well as mixed
- 33:44Speaker 1: Japanese people. But Japanese nationals have no understanding of the
- 33:48Speaker 1: racing meaning unless they have friends overseas. Same with the peach,
- 33:53Speaker 1: and she goes on to talk about how the tear
- 33:56Speaker 1: or splash emoji in Japan is used when someone is
- 34:00Speaker 1: feeling awkward, much like other sweat drop emoji. That's an
- 34:03Speaker 1: anime all the time to do. Whenever you see someone
- 34:05Speaker 1: that's struggling with something or stressed out, they'll have little
- 34:09Speaker 1: sweat lines coming out of there. Yes, exactly, and uh
- 34:13Speaker 1: Umi ends by saying another important note, not everyone uses
- 34:16Speaker 1: standard emoji anymore. For example, users of Line will use
- 34:20Speaker 1: their own emoji set called stamps or stickers. There are
- 34:23Speaker 1: tons of them, and users can even purchase special large
- 34:26Speaker 1: one specific to shows and games they like. I've attached
- 34:30Speaker 1: screenshots of my own apps showing just the original set
- 34:34Speaker 1: which we checked out, and uh Umi ends up by saying,
- 34:37Speaker 1: I hope you have a great day regards. Thanks so
- 34:40Speaker 1: much for writing to us. I I find the evolution
- 34:43Speaker 1: of language, especially in the realm of emoji, endlessly fascinating. Oh. Absolutely,
- 34:47Speaker 1: And I think too, it's interesting that the set that
- 34:50Speaker 1: comes stock on you know, most phones, um iPhones at
- 34:54Speaker 1: least um are you know, there are some characters in
- 34:58Speaker 1: there that are pretty intensely Japanese and that I am
- 35:02Speaker 1: still not. Like, there's a couple of food items that
- 35:04Speaker 1: I don't even think I've ever seen before. One thing
- 35:06Speaker 1: that's funny, and I've probably experienced this to. My girlfriend
- 35:09Speaker 1: has an Android and I have an iPhone. Are emoji
- 35:11Speaker 1: sets do not match? When I send her something that
- 35:14Speaker 1: looks a certain way for me, it does not look
- 35:16Speaker 1: the same for her. And there are a few that
- 35:18Speaker 1: have problematic differences. Yes, yeah, I agree. Like there's one
- 35:23Speaker 1: that's sort of the Spanish dancer lady doing doing like
- 35:26Speaker 1: a move and on her end it's a little like
- 35:30Speaker 1: a little boy doing like like a b boy doing
- 35:32Speaker 1: hip hop dance moves, um like breakdancing. It's so strange
- 35:36Speaker 1: because I used to have an Android too, and I
- 35:38Speaker 1: would notice this and when we were in group chats
- 35:41Speaker 1: or something, or when I was texting someone or I
- 35:44Speaker 1: would receive a text and I think, what the what
- 35:47Speaker 1: the hell is this is this? What story are you
- 35:49Speaker 1: telling me? I thought we were going to meet at
- 35:51Speaker 1: the barbecue place. There's another one that like, when it
- 35:54Speaker 1: comes on my end, it looks like an I roll.
- 35:56Speaker 1: And I said something to her about something that happened
- 35:58Speaker 1: with my daughter that I was just talking about, you know,
- 36:00Speaker 1: being a dad and saying something dorky, and she sent
- 36:02Speaker 1: me this eye roll and I'm like, that's so mean,
- 36:05Speaker 1: But it was not. That didn't look that way on
- 36:07Speaker 1: her end. It looked like a wide eyed or happy
- 36:09Speaker 1: face or something like that. So you know, careful, uh,
- 36:12Speaker 1: Android versus iPhone users, Um, you might be sending mixed
- 36:16Speaker 1: messages and not even know it. And give somebody the
- 36:19Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt if they send you something that
- 36:22Speaker 1: you think is crazy town. That's true. Elephant's in the
- 36:25Speaker 1: screenshot of what it looks like on my phone back
- 36:28Speaker 1: to her, so that we're on the same page. We've
- 36:30Speaker 1: kind of learned to do that. That's a good policy,
- 36:32Speaker 1: and that's where we're going to end our listener mail,
- 36:36Speaker 1: but not our show. We of course want to thank
- 36:38Speaker 1: Casey Pegru and we want to thank Alex Williams for
- 36:41Speaker 1: composing that fan favorite theme, and regular contributor Laurie L. Dove,
- 36:46Speaker 1: who wrote a hundred and fifty years ago Men Killed
- 36:48Speaker 1: for the eggs of these birds on how stuff works.
- 36:52Speaker 1: And most importantly, you, specifically you, not a general, yes,
- 36:57Speaker 1: you and you listeners for tuning into a another episode
- 37:01Speaker 1: of ridiculous history. I really hope that you enjoyed this
- 37:05Speaker 1: episode about the egg war, because in our very next episode,
- 37:09Speaker 1: we're going to be diving into another bit of food
- 37:13Speaker 1: crime history. Yeah, with the sorted tale of bootleg Margarine.
- 37:20Speaker 1: I wanted to use remember we're talking about this, I
- 37:23Speaker 1: wanted to use the phrase butter smuggler just because it
- 37:25Speaker 1: sounded cool. I like it, but it's Margarine. It's okay,
- 37:29Speaker 1: I just still say it. Butter comes up. Yeah. Yeah,
- 37:32Speaker 1: I'm gonna spoiler. We're gonna be waiting to slip that
- 37:35Speaker 1: one in there, and we might even have a surprise
- 37:37Speaker 1: guest who you may ask, will this guest be Well,
- 37:40Speaker 1: there's one way to find out. Come hang out with us.
- 37:43Speaker 1: Thanks guys,