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An Unlikely Affair: Reality Just Got Real · Untraditionally Lala

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  Speaker 1: Hi Amber, Hi Lola, Welcome to an unlikely affair. Hey babes,
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  Speaker 1: welcome back to an unlikely affair. I'm here via zoom
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  Speaker 1: with my main chick, who now has such chic short hair.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for throwing the word chic in it. I
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  Speaker 2: really just made my day.
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  Speaker 3: It's so chic. I can't get over it.
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  Speaker 2: You think you know, let me tell you something. Washing it.
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  Speaker 3: At first, I was like, where's the rest of it?
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  Speaker 2: Where's where's the rest of it? But then I realized
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  Speaker 2: I time myself blow drying it. It took less than
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  Speaker 2: five minutes, and I was like, thank the Lord.
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  Speaker 3: It's so good.
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  Speaker 1: But you have that good bone structure, like I could
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  Speaker 1: never have that short of hair.
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  Speaker 2: Yes you can. First of all, the bob I guess
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  Speaker 2: is in. And I didn't know this until after I
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  Speaker 2: went and chopped it off and my girl started sending
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  Speaker 2: me all of these like neutrons for twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, heck, yeah, I'm the like one person that
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  Speaker 2: like finally did something before everyone else.
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  Speaker 3: It's so good.
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  Speaker 1: But you know what, after I go in and visit
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  Speaker 1: doctor Diamond, who's going to give me a jaw line,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I will chop my hair as well.
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  Speaker 2: No, I like your hair. It's so, this is the
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  Speaker 2: best your hair has ever looked.
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  Speaker 3: I worked really hard to get into this wing.
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  Speaker 2: It's so, it looks so healthy.
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  Speaker 1: We're trying, We're definitely trying.
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  Speaker 2: How are you feeling. Let's talk, Let's see the girls kidding.
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  Speaker 1: Could you imagine me just whipping my tits out on here,
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  Speaker 1: I'd do it.
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  Speaker 2: Don't threaten me with good time.
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  Speaker 3: Don't threaten me with a good time.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, Amber, I've had my boobs done three
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  Speaker 1: times now five on the right side because we just
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  Speaker 1: couldn't get them to be even. So this last time
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  Speaker 1: that I went in, which was what a couple of
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  Speaker 1: weeks now almost basically what they did on the left side.
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  Speaker 1: So much tissue on the on the left that they
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  Speaker 1: cleaned out and reduced it by I think ten CC's
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  Speaker 1: put it over to the right side. The right one
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  Speaker 1: is what had the cap con. She was like peeling
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  Speaker 1: it from my She was like it was like attached
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  Speaker 1: to your ribs.
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  Speaker 3: It was wow.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, it looked like chopped up chicken.
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  Speaker 1: You showed me a picture.
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  Speaker 3: My god, I'm gonna throw up.
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  Speaker 2: I was already nauseous before this episode started, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: drinking ginger ale. Now I'm gonna throw up. Thank you
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  Speaker 2: for that visual. Oh my god, so sorry this poor woman.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, were you Tommy, were you nervous going in
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  Speaker 2: knowing that this is like the fifth time that you've
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  Speaker 2: had to, you know, have them redone?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was nervous, And she already said at some point,
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  Speaker 1: she goes, not not anytime soon, but I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: have to give you a breast reduction. On the left side.
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  Speaker 1: It is, there is so much just like breast tissue
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  Speaker 1: and skin on that side, and when I get pregnant,
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  Speaker 1: it becomes like a melon and this the right side is.
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  Speaker 3: Like shriveled up and sad. The whole time.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, do something, do something, be sexy, look alive.
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  Speaker 1: And so I yeah, I was nervous for a lot
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  Speaker 1: of different reasons. And usually, I mean I've only been
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  Speaker 1: put under a handful of times, but this last week,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the anesthesia really fucked with me. I started
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  Speaker 1: getting very depressed. You know, I don't I don't do
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  Speaker 1: the pain meds, but I actually had to a few
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  Speaker 1: of the days. I want to say I took them
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  Speaker 1: about three of the days week one. So coming off
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  Speaker 1: of that and then the anesthesia and now I'm on
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  Speaker 1: my period, it was like I was ready to assassinate everybody.
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  Speaker 2: It was a trifecta.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, this has really messed with me because
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  Speaker 1: I've heard about that. How does anesthesia affect you? Do
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  Speaker 1: you get weird after or you kind of okay?
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  Speaker 2: I mean I've only been put down. Put down, that
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  Speaker 2: sounded really bad. I'm put under probably once. And I
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  Speaker 2: was actually thinking this morning that I need to probably
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  Speaker 2: go in for a colonoscopy, and I think they have
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  Speaker 2: to put you down for that too, Right.
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  Speaker 3: You sound like you're a dog. I gotta put her down.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put her down, just I I they definitely, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they have to shove something up your asshole. I can't.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well, and I need one of those too.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we should do it together.
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  Speaker 1: We should because if I think the hard part is
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  Speaker 1: I have been working out consistently every single day. I've
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  Speaker 1: been looking at my body being like, damn, we're like
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  Speaker 1: in a rhythm ever since you know, January first. I
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  Speaker 1: put myself in a headspace that like this is how
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna move through this year. And then this surgery
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  Speaker 1: kind of through a wrench in things because even though
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  Speaker 1: it was vanity purposes, my boobs were just not not
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  Speaker 1: looking fresh. It was reconstructive surgery as well, and the
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  Speaker 1: doctor said, I can't believe that you were able to
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  Speaker 1: last this long without cleaning up that capcom that you
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  Speaker 1: weren't in more pain because it was everywhere like really
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  Speaker 1: working to push that implant out or someone else.
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  Speaker 2: So does she have to monitor it to make sure
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  Speaker 2: that it doesn't come back tenfolds?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, So they sent it off to pathology to see
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  Speaker 1: what was the cause of it because I haven't had
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  Speaker 1: that before. It was after I had what is it mastitis?
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  Speaker 1: Is that where like, yes, an infection in your Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so I got that with sosa on the right side,
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  Speaker 1: and she said it could be from that.
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  Speaker 3: So let's send it in.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see what they say, and then if you are
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  Speaker 1: thinking about having another baby, you need to call me
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  Speaker 1: immediately so that we can make sure we put you
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  Speaker 1: on some sort of antibiotic to make sure that this
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  Speaker 1: doesn't happen again. I also switched implants. I think they're
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  Speaker 1: called motiva or something, and it reduces the risk by
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  Speaker 1: like over ninety percent that capcom will happen.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's amazing. Did you get insurance on your boobs too?
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  Speaker 1: Should I insure my boobs?
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  Speaker 2: I mean I think I did. When I was in
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  Speaker 2: my twenties and I got my boobs done, they asked
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  Speaker 2: if I wanted insurance and I said sure. I guess
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know what to say. So it's probably expired
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  Speaker 2: now because it's been over ten years since I got
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  Speaker 2: them done. But I think it's just just in case
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  Speaker 2: something happens. It like pays for maybe a part of
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  Speaker 2: the you know, the surgery that you have to go
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  Speaker 2: back and do if need be.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they were expensive, I will say, yeah, I would
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  Speaker 1: say too, yeah, but overall you're happy with them?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I'm very swollen and sore and obviously like
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  Speaker 1: they're parts of me that are numb that I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: that's I wasn't numb there before. So I have to remember, like,
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  Speaker 1: this wasn't just like a cute like let's slip some
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  Speaker 1: bigger implants in. It was like a whole production.
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe you got that sweatshirt over your head
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  Speaker 2: because you're really not to be don't tell me that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you're just be lifting your arms over
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  Speaker 2: your head. No.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, first day they need zip sweatshirts. No, amber, they
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  Speaker 1: gave me a whole thing. First day of surgery, the
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  Speaker 1: nurse that was with me had me doing wall climbs
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  Speaker 1: to get my hands above my head. Oh okay, yeah
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  Speaker 1: I have to do Maybe that's new, like five times
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  Speaker 1: a day.
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  Speaker 2: Oh all right, Well yeah, I guess I didn't know.
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  Speaker 2: So did Ocean say anything to you, like, Mommy, what happened?
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  Speaker 2: Like what was that situation?
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  Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought this up, because I totally
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  Speaker 1: would have forgotten. So yesterday I go to get the
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  Speaker 1: last drain out, which, by the way, they're disgusting. She
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  Speaker 1: wants I show because she comes home from Miami and
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  Speaker 1: she wants to jump on me. And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: hold on, baby, I just had surgery, and so.
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  Speaker 3: I show her.
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  Speaker 1: Because she's a little weirdo and loves that shit. I
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  Speaker 1: show her and she was like, oh my god, mom
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  Speaker 1: And I was like I know. And she goes, where
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  Speaker 1: does it go? And I was like, it attaches. I go,
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  Speaker 1: I got my boobs done. I don't know why I
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  Speaker 1: told her a thought sometimes along with the other day
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  Speaker 1: I told her that I shoved her out of my
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  Speaker 1: vagina and immediately was like, oh.
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  Speaker 3: My god, why would I say such a thing.
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  Speaker 2: I say that to my kids all the time. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: you came out of my vagina, and I think the
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  Speaker 2: visual alone.
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  Speaker 1: Just you know, your children are not five. I don't
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  Speaker 1: need her going to school being like you came out
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  Speaker 1: of your mom's vagina. Like, I just don't need it.
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  Speaker 1: But sometimes they can just slip out of my mouth.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: I tell her that I'm going to go get it
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  Speaker 1: taken out tomorrow. So yesterday we go into Beverly Hills.
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  Speaker 1: We get her like a chocolate croissant and like a
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  Speaker 1: little uh pellegrino before we go into the plastic surgeon
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  Speaker 1: and she wants to watch and I'm like, I don't care.
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  Speaker 3: You know, she could be a doctor. One day.
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  Speaker 1: She's watching, hands over her mouth and she's like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, Mom, they're they're pulling it out of your boob.
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  Speaker 3: They're pulling it out of your boob.
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  Speaker 1: Mom. I'm like, I'm aware, stop talking about it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to pass out. So they get rid of the
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  Speaker 1: drain whatever. We get home and I was like, hey, babe,
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  Speaker 1: when you go back to school. I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: appropriate for you to tell your friends that your mom
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  Speaker 1: got her boobs done. And she goes, I would never
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  Speaker 1: say that mom My teachers would get so mad at me.
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  Speaker 1: It's so inappropriate to tell people that my mom got
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  Speaker 1: her boobs done. I'm just going to tell them you
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  Speaker 1: had surgery. I said, okay, And what happens when they
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: ask you? What did your mom have surgery on? And
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: she just sat there and she was like, I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let's just not talk about it at all. Then Easton
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: comes into her room last night to just like say
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  Speaker 1: what's up, and I overhear her. She said, yeah, I'm
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: probably just going to sleep in my bed tonight. I
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  Speaker 1: can't go up to my mom's room like at all.
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  Speaker 1: And Easton goes, oh, you're not going to sleep in there?
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  Speaker 3: She goes, no, she just got her boobs done.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't think it's a good idea.
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  Speaker 3: What's happening.
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  Speaker 1: You are so screwed. You are so screwed. I'm fully screwed.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the good news. It's la like they hear
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  Speaker 2: the craziest stuff at that preschool. I'm sure right, Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the craziest stuff like my mom shoves a tamp on
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: a perfect like the things that our kids as women,
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: we have girls, they just see and hear things. And like,
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  Speaker 2: my kids didn't even make a big deal that I
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  Speaker 2: got a boob job, and they don't even bring it.
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  Speaker 2: They don't they don't even bring it up, Like they
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  Speaker 2: don't even say anything. Although I would like to remove
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  Speaker 2: my boobs. That's funny, you are getting boobs.
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  Speaker 1: Why would you ever do that. You have gorgeous boobs.
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  Speaker 1: Please leave them. They're so pretty. I want them where.
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  Speaker 2: You'd have them, But why do you want to remove them?
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know. I'm just feeling like I got
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  Speaker 2: boobs for the wrong reason. And it wasn't because it's
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  Speaker 2: something that I wanted. It was something that I was
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  Speaker 2: It was suggested by someone I was in a relationship with, like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you would look so fucking hot with boobs, and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, I'll do anything to save my marriage kind
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  Speaker 2: of situation. So I was like, maybe he'll love me
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  Speaker 2: more if I look this way. So it feels in
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: a way that my boobs don't belong to me. I
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  Speaker 2: love them, They're beautiful and I'm very happy, but at
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  Speaker 2: some point I feel like there's also this thing about
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  Speaker 2: having like a really flat chest and like just like
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: these like itty bitty titties that would be so beautiful
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: because I want to wear low cut stuff like all
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  Speaker 2: the time, but then when I do, I feel I
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  Speaker 2: just feel like I'm exposing myself too much, and it's
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  Speaker 2: like there's nothing sexier than like a flat chest. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know, but I haven't made the decision.
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  Speaker 2: I did have a plastic surgeon reach out to me
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  Speaker 2: this week asking if I wanted like any services done,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, hmm in Monttana, No, God, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure there's great plastic surgeons out here,
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  Speaker 2: but I probably would just stick with Honestly, the doctor
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  Speaker 2: who did my boobs did a really fantastic job. I've
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  Speaker 2: never knock on wood. I've never had any issues with them.
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  Speaker 2: They're so pretty for now that they're staying. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: I have no choice.
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  Speaker 1: You take my boobs out and I look like isma
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  Speaker 1: from fucking the Emperor's new Groove. Titties down to your ankles,
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  Speaker 1: tiny little lips, little slug tits can be having that.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, one last question about your your new the New
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  Speaker 2: Twins yeah, are you excited to like show them off?
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  Speaker 1: Fuck?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Are you crazy? Are you crazy?
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  Speaker 3: I asked the doctor yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, when can when can they be played with?
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  Speaker 3: And she was like, I do.
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  Speaker 1: I did give it at least four weeks. I was like, right,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it like tomorrow, but like no,
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  Speaker 1: but it is.
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  Speaker 2: Really important that you do massage them for the scar
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  Speaker 2: tissue right now?
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  Speaker 3: Not right no, no, not now, not now.
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  Speaker 2: But like slowly eventually when she gives you clearance, like really,
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  Speaker 2: just you know, get in there, have fun with them,
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: Get in there. Have I done? Yeah? Have someone else
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  Speaker 2: get in there?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Oh I'm so excited for you. This is so exciting.
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  Speaker 4: It's all very exciting. It's all very exciting. You took
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: a tumble real quick. I want to talk about this
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: because you were like, yeah, I'm not hurt, but like
• 13:38
  Speaker 4: you had a boy in town and you guys went
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  Speaker 4: you got fucked up.
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  Speaker 3: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, people have told me, I need to
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: stop saying bro, you got fucked up girl.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Riley says it all the time, and I'm like, dude,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not your bro, I'm your mom. So yeah, so see,
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  Speaker 2: I oh.
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  Speaker 3: My gosh, it looks so much better.
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  Speaker 2: This is like all bruising right now, right here and
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: here yellow. I am so lucky. I did not break
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: a bone. I literally felt in the same spot twice.
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: I think I peed my pants twice. I think I
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: just had an experience where I know now I will
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: always be prepared. I did not think there was going
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: to be snow. We haven't had snow forever here, so
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think where we were going, which wasn't completely
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: in the mountains.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: Ish. What did the guy do when you fell? Were
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: you embarrassed? No?
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: I think he actually fell twice too, So it was
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: like I was like, this is a good We are
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: never going on amazing race together. We would fail terribly.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: I don't even think that show exists anymore. Well, any
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: sort of couple going out in nature and doing nature
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  Speaker 2: shit naked and afraid, forget it.
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  Speaker 3: Forget it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it hurt like a bitch. Let me tell you.
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  Speaker 2: Falling at thirty seven is not like falling at twenty seven.
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  Speaker 3: No, obviously not.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, and then I was walking down the hill
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: like a like a nine year old granny because I
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: was petrified.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, Yeah, that was no joke. When you
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: showed me, you were like, yeah, I got a little
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: bit hurt. And then I saw the photo, I'm like,
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: you got a lot of bit hurt.
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  Speaker 3: I would have sobbed hike over.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And he took pictures from behind when I was
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: I had blood down my arm and he didn't want
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: to tell me because he didn't want me to freak out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So when I got up to the top where the
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: lake was, which was absolutely gorgeous, I was like, oh shit,
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: I'm bleeding and it was like, especially right here, it
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: looked almost like I needed stitches because you could see
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: the inside of my skin.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to pass away. I'm going to pass away.
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  Speaker 2: It was disgusting. It was so gross. Anyways, I had
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: it was a great hike. I definitely will not do
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: that again. And I had my tracks. Everyone on Instagram's
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: like where your tracks? You're so like inexperienced, I said, you, guys,
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: I had three sets of tracks. I took them out
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: of my car. See, I didn't listen to my intuition
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: and something told me just keep them inside. And then
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: I argued with myself like, oh I will need them.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: Well guess what I freaking needed my tracks.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: We talked about this that when you have that little voice,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: you just do it.
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  Speaker 3: You don't question it, you just do it.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: I know. But it's like a muscle. You gotta train
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: it just to be like, oh, there it is, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna listen.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, train yourself to listen to your own self.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: So obviously.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: The one thing that everyone's been talking about the past
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: I want to say week is this Mormon wife Taylor
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Frankie Priky. She's on a show called Mormon Wives on Hulu,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: which what is a major success. Everyone fucking loves this show.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: I watched maybe three or four episodes of season one.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: I was not interested. I did not find it interesting.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Everyone else did. It's not like a big deal that
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I didn't find it interesting. We all have our own
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: little things we.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Like to watch.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: I was not into it, but the rest of the
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: world is. And you're familiar now, right Amber.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Like you looked up.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, Autumn. My sister is ups funny, is obsessed.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: That's like all she did when she was pregnant and
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: when the baby was little. I'm like, what do you watch?
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: She's like, oh, Mormon Wives. I'm like, oh, my God,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: I can't. This is so dumb. That was my reaction, okay,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: but people people are crazy about it, and people are
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: really I think it was because I grew up Mormon
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: and now it was too close to time. Yeah, and
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: then they were like swinging, and it's like, what does
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: it mean soft swinging. It's like you're either swinging or
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: you're not. It's like soft porn is still porn in
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: my opinion, Yeah, what like what's the fucking difference? Like,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: I guess soft swinging is where you're doing everything else
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: maybe butt sex. I don't know you're doing butt sex,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: like no, no, no, no, no no no, and everything but
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: everything except okay, everything except except Yeah.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I mean the moment you put your hand on my
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: man's dick we're fucking swinging or you're cheating, like, don't
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: touch it, okay, it doesn't need to be inserted inside
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: of you.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Or fondled with. Yeah, yeah, the moment you fondle it,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: you're swinging.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: I think there's more people out there than we know
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: who actually have this type of relationship. I've when I
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: was on the dating apps and I would connect with someone,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: they would be like, oh, I just want to make
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: sure you saw our description.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Swingers, Like back in the day, if you had like
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: an upside down pineapple, it meant like you're down to swing.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: There are a lot of people like that have open marriages,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: and maybe the dwars rate is less because you're just
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: there's more communication and there's more openness. But specifically for me,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: I'm not okay. This is just I'm just saying it
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: works for some people and other people it clearly doesn't.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Most of the women who were swinging in this group
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: are all divorced, So why is that considered swing. It's
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: not swinging then if you're divorced. No, like they were
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: together and now they're all divorced. I don't think I personally,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: of course, open communication. If you want to have an
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: open marriage, go for it. I certainly don't think that
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: just because you communicate that you're in an open relationship,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: that like your chances of breaking up our slimmer. I
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: actually think it causes a lot of confusion.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because you eventually have this emotional connection with someone,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: and so it's like, wait a second, this is more
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: than if you're just completely mute and you could just
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: go and have sex with other people and not you know,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: feelings get involved, but that's very rare. The way that
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: women are biologically set up is we have this attachment
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: and that's you know, we've had these conversations on this
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: podcast about sex and what it does with attaching to
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: someone that you're you're with, and I think that's definitely
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: what happened. If you're telling me all these people got divorced,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: and it completely makes sense.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, most of them are fucking done with each other.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: So what I do know is that season one, the
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: first episode, they're set to film this show and there's
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: an incident that happens where Taylor Frankie Paul is arrested
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: for domestic violence. So we've known this right, It's how
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: the season opened, how the entire show premiered itself with
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: video ring Cameron bodycam footage of this girl on something,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: whether it's alcohol or drugs, allegedly and they take her
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: to jail. She has talked about this incident on many occasions.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Now the video from her baby daddy Dakota has been released,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: and we see this girl clearly in a blind rage
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: to the point where she's beating the shit out of him,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: but then continues to turn into the incredible hulk and
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: slanging fucking furniture at this man while her daughter said,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: it's on the couch. Her daughter at the time is
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: five years old. That is Ocean's age. Okay, So so
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: much of this I think is getting lost and people
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: are fixating on the fact that this video was from
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three and Dakota it was well thought out
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: that he was going to drop this, and she's already
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: discussed it before and apologized and done work. Her mom
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: came out with something a few days ago, saying, the
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: hardest part about this is that my daughter's having to
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: relive this entire experience. Obviously, there's been a lot of
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: heat that she's taken. Because it's one thing for this
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: girl to sit on a fucking podcast and talk about it.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: It's quite another to actually watch the blind rage she
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: was in.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's painful exactly, and a lot of people talking
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: about you know, if this were a man, he would
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: at some point be celebrated, like there wouldn't be much
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: of a repercussion. This is where I think everyone's getting lost.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: It is not about the video that just dropped. You
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: have to remember this, Taylor, Frankie Paul was on I
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: think Good Morning America before this video dropped, talking to
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Taylor about the fact that production of Mormon Wives was
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: put on pots. Something happened in the last two and
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: a half weeks for production of the show she's on
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: and apparently is a producer on for them to say,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: we're pumping the brakes, we're shutting down cameras. I was
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: told the cast was not feeling safe. So something else happened.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: The twenty twenty three video that Dakota her baby daddy released,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I feel like this was just like a little like
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna slowly drop these things out here. Then the
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: videos released from twenty twenty three, and they decided to
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: pull the Bachelor. Now, let me tell you something, the
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Bachelorette pulling the show. I don't care one way or another.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I think it's fucking wild that they even had her on. Yes,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: this girl who has multiple baby daddies.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: No judgment, by the way, no judgment here.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I too have multiple baby daddies, one of.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Which I don't even know. No fucking judgment here.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: So I watched the video yesterday. I was not able
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: to finish it. There got there. There came a point
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I was on a walk and I literally started feeling
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: ill when it escalated to a whole other level and
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I started hearing her daughter cry. It just I went
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I was like too much for me. But when she
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: had to point out something when she has him in
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: a choke hold, she is a little girl. He is
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: a man, and he's just like allowing that. So that
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: part was really confusing to me. I'm like, why is
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: he You could tell that there was like why are
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: you being abusive? Tailor? And like this little girl has
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: this massive guy in a chokehold. That part I got
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: really like, Okay, that's a little sus there's something weird there.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Like he he's a piece of shit.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Those two cameras down without him filming those two fucking
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: go toes.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Oh they're two very toxic people. And I
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: when I seeing that video, I had so much compassion
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: because I saw a human being like really unraveling in
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: real time. And it just makes me so sick that
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: the media continues to use situations like that just a
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: profit off of I'm not condoning any of her behavior.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: It is fucking psychotic. What what happened, especially hurting a child.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: But there's two really sick people that really need to
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: take a pause of all things reality, go check themselves
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: in and go get right while like their poor children
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: all heal because it was it was. It was horrifying
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: to watch. There's no other word. I was like, I
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: want to throw up.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: It was horrifying to watch. And I know that she
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: is not proud, and I'm not saying that. Here's where
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: reality loses me at times. Amber your life. The messier
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: it is, the more people tune in, and it's almost rewarded.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: And then there's this fine line where it's like, you
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: guys knew about this situation. You knew about it, and
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: now that everyone else knows about it, you're gonna do
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: something and push pause on Mormon Wives and take the
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Bachelorette off the air. This is the same situation that
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: you guys put on television as I was being arrested.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: M hm.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: So it is a mind fuck.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: And I always say reality TV at times, you're doing
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: the devil's work.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: No, I know we've had this conversation before.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Listen.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: ABC is a massive network. You're telling me that no
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: one knew this. I bet you someone is either getting
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: fired or this is like some sick corrupt thing that
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: they knew, and they were like, we're going to play
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: into this. So it's like, and it's even worse if
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: it's if it's the latter. But ABC new like they
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: do background checks, they know what's up. They're not bringing
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: on the Bachelor and representing like they're this wholesome family
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: network to bring someone on who has felony charges, domestic abuse,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: child abuse charges, like, it's just crazy.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: This is a girl who clearly has experienced a tremendous
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: amount of trauma and clearly has a problem, I believe
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: with alcohol. I don't think someone gets to that blind
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: rage without some sort of substance fueling the beast.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know I have. I'm gonna I'm gonna challenge
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: you on that, but keep.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Going their substance happening because watching that, I feel that
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: there have been times where I have felt that blind rage.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: I have felt that blind rage.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Intoxicated where you you disassociate and black out, and you
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: know what, Thank God I didn't have a child at
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: the time, because who the fuck knows.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: I you can sit there and place judgment and say,
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: but the child was there.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: This woman was not herself, And I think it's a great,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: a great idea to fucking press pause, But to yank
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: the Bachelorette altogether, I think was a stupid move.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think they will. I think it will come
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: back on, do you But Amber?
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Everyone knows who won, and now I think they're dealing
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: with three percussions of these contestants, being like I was
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: banking on this, I don't know that.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: They'll air it.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Huh. That's really interesting. So one of the things that
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I was going to challenge you on was I have
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: seen enough television shows and read enough books and enough
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: stories of women who are abused, and there comes a
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: point when you're abused for so long you snap. And
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: sometimes alcohol is not involved. Sometimes you just snap because
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: you just have had enough abuse. And I'm not saying that,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: you know, she obviously was she intoxicated in this video?
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Was that confirmed?
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, she was lit, So she was lit. Maybe she
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have grabbed the chair, Maybe she would have been
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: the fact that she didn't even flinch when her child
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: started crying shows that there was something like psychologically beyond
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: the point of like she had on tunnel vision. She
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: was going for him right in whatever way. But I
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: do have to say there are there are scenarios where
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: there are badly and I actually met someone who ended
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: up murdering her husband because she was abused so bad.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: And yeah, she feels bad about it, and she ended
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: up getting off because of the abuse and didn't have
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: to spend any time in jail. But it really just
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: breaks my heart that relationships have to get to the
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: point where it becomes so violent, right, it pushes you
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: over the edge. And on top of mental health issues.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Who knows what happened in her childhood.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what happened, but I know it
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: seems as though her parents have been very hard on her,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: and she kind of followed the path of the Mormon
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Church and then obviously fell off a bit. And when
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: I say fell off in the eyes of the church,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: she went rogue. And as you and I both know you,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: especially just from experience, when you take a different path
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: that's not in alignment with that church, it's you have
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: now embarrassed the family, and they somewhat disown you because
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: they got to be right with the Lord. They can't
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: condone the lifestyle that you've chosen. I think there was
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of pressure I actually feel very, very terrible
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: for her. However, at some point, especially when you have
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: kids and the stakes are so high, that it is
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: your job to take a step back and know that
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: life is no longer about you, and we can sit
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: here all day long and talk about She's already addressed it.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: There was another incident that happened within the last three weeks,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: right right, right right, and a cast member someone I
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: think it was Doumois. There was a fan who wrote
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: one of the cast members and said, why are you
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: guys so upset about something you already knew about back
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three? And the girl responds, something happened recently,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: so there has been no change. She hasn't tried. Now,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: if this girl this happened in twenty twenty three, you
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: see this girl and she's like, I have I have
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: been seeing a therapist. I've been sober for X amount
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: of months years, Right, I think that this would all
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: be forgiven. The problem is you're the same fucking person
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: that is an issue, and I'm sick of this. Like,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: if this were a man, take that we're not talking about.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: If this were a man, we're not going to condone
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: her behavior. Because if a man does it, he's president.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: We all know life's fucking unfair. Men get Tren very differently.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I'm just as pissed off about it. It's just sad.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And guess what, Like, no one's picking sides, and
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I feel like when things get put out, you're forced
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: to pick sides, you're forced to analyze. Everyone becomes a
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: freaking expert in this video because they've watched a five
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: minute clip.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Well here we are talking about it because everyone else
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: is talking about it because it's insane.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: It's giving scanned of all.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: When CNN had to cover it, and I'm sure the
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: news people, you know, the anchors in the news are
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: like like, are you really fucking serious? I have to
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: cover this. They're like, people want to talk about it,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: talk about it. I'm like an anchor on CNN right.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Now, you want to talk about that with new tits.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: In this segment, we're gonna be talking about my new
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: boobs and the reality star that went ape. Shit. I
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: guess I would. I have to put this disclaimer, like
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: for people, if you are listening and you are a victim, man, woman, whatever,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: of domestic abuse, try not to let it get to
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: this stage. Where you're chucking chairs, putting your children's life
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: at risk. I mean, she could have seriously injured her child,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: like in a very bad way. There's resources, there's so
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: many people that you can go to to get help.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: You don't have to stay stuck in a situation. I
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: stayed in a very toxic, unhealthy marriage. I will be
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: the first one to say that I was not well
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: and I played a huge part by not leaving. I
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: hurt my children because I didn't leave, and then ultimately
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I woke the fuck up one day and I said
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: I'm leaving. It's time, like I needed an exit. And
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: guess what. Life is so much better now for both
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: of us, now that we're not in a marriage where
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: our kids And it's hard, but sometimes your kids need
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: to see two homes, two peaceful homes, instead of one
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: home that is a complete and utter shit show.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: I fully agree with you.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I just went on a little ramp, but it
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: really love like everything that you just said. I want
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: to see Taylor get better. I want her and even
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: her guide. These people need to go get help, and
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: they clearly have the financial resources. They're making money on
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: these shows. They're making money on the bachelor. They're making
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: money on all these endorsements, Like take that money and
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: do something good with it because they have little kids
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: that are counting on them.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: I know you said that people go into a blind
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: rage even without alcohol, and I do believe that. I
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: don't think that everything is alcohol induced. I will say
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: just from my own personal experience, the version of myself,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: and granted back when I was drinking, I had my
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: last drink when I was twenty eight years old.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be thirty six this year.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: So also not only sobriety, but just time and maturity
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: has happened. The moment that I took substances out of
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: my life, the reaction from me was very different. I
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: may have been pretty brutal with my words, okay, but
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I never felt that rage where I blacked out and
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: was ready to go toes with you. And believe me,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I know that feeling. I think if she were to
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: take a step back and say today is the day
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: that I am admitting that I have an issue with
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: whatever it may be drinking, I don't know, and she
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: gets rid of substances in her life, that girl is
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: going to live a beautiful life. She clearly has star quality.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: People are eating this show up's. She has had so
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: much opportunity handed to her because people are just so
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: interested in her life, right, and it could be because
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: her her life is a hot mess and when sorry,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I'm not. And then when you bring kids into the mix,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: when you have that level of toxicity happening, your children
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: do not stand a chance in this world. Easton read
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: me something the other day where there was this girl,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Janelle on teen Mom and she was a part of
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  Speaker 1: the very first cast and she had a son named Jace,
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  Speaker 1: and Janelle and the baby daddy were extremely toxic. There
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  Speaker 1: was drug use, domestic violence, and Janelle's mom had stepped
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: in to raise Jace. Jace is now a teenager, and
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Janelle and her mother would go back and forth on
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  Speaker 1: custody and it would be like Janelle's got her act together, Jace.
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  Speaker 3: Canell live with the mom.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, she's lost her mind again, We're giving custody back
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  Speaker 1: to the grandma. They played a nine to one one
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  Speaker 1: call where the grandma calls and says, my grandson, Jace
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  Speaker 1: has been at his mom's house and he just showed
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: up to my house losing his mind and held a gun.
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  Speaker 3: To his head.
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  Speaker 1: This is the shit that your children will face when
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  Speaker 1: you cannot get your fucking shit together. Had I not
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  Speaker 1: made the move to get sober seven and a half
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  Speaker 1: years ago, and I continued down that path and then
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  Speaker 1: had babies, my kids would be fucked period. You no
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  Speaker 1: longer have the luxury to do whatever you want and
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  Speaker 1: act however you want. The stakes are high when you
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: look at the big picture. The press, they yanked the
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: fucking Bachelorette, they put the show on pause. Who gives
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  Speaker 1: a shit?
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  Speaker 2: Agreed? Agreed.
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  Speaker 3: You're a mother.
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  Speaker 1: You're responsible for these children going out into the world
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  Speaker 1: and having productive relationships with people.
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  Speaker 2: Right, But you can't do that unless you're well, and
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  Speaker 2: she clearly has. She struggles with mental health addiction issues
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  Speaker 2: like the whole gamut. So she's not even herself, she's
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  Speaker 2: not even seeing clearly, and hopefully, hopefully this is her
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  Speaker 2: rock bottom. Right, we've talked about this, what are our
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  Speaker 2: rock problems? I pray I pray that this is her
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  Speaker 2: rock bottom for the sake of her children, because you
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  Speaker 2: and I both know you can come out the other side.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, we've sat in rooms with people where you've
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  Speaker 1: heard the most horrendous stories where you're like, how is this.
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  Speaker 3: This person standing? Yeah, Like my.
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  Speaker 1: Life was beautiful and I still decided to like pick
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  Speaker 1: up a numb. This person really was dealt to shitty hand,
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  Speaker 1: and look at what they've done with their life.
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  Speaker 3: It's incredible.
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  Speaker 1: So when you've been in rooms that we've been in
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  Speaker 1: and then you watch a situation like the Mormon wife,
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  Speaker 1: you want to have compassion, but you also want to
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: shake them and say what the fuck is going on here?
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  Speaker 2: Of course, and hopefully that she has people around her
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  Speaker 2: doing that with love and compassion. You know, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: but so much of this is going to continue to unfold,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: so there may be the need of a part two
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  Speaker 2: to catch up on what the heck because we're going
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: to see a lot probably in the next coming weeks.
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  Speaker 2: And I know her her reps have come out and
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  Speaker 2: said she's actually putting something together to tell her side
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  Speaker 2: of the story, which is going to be really interesting
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  Speaker 2: to hear what she has to say. Oh and I
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: bet that came with a hefty paycheck. Taylor would love
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  Speaker 2: to share her side of the story.
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  Speaker 1: She'll do it for a cool half a mill maybe more,
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  Speaker 1: oh half a mill, no way after taxes, she needs
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: to say like one point five yeah, so she can
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  Speaker 1: cool out with a fresh MILLI yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean there's a.
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  Speaker 2: Lot of a lot of damages and who knows, maybe
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: she's going to get sued by other people. Oh you
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: know how many pending lawsuits she has.
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  Speaker 3: Allegedly who knows?
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Stay tuned, all right, I end to this episode.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know where I stand.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, still, I'm like, it's a very nuanced situation.
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  Speaker 2: I stand that she needs help and I pray for her.
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  Speaker 3: Amen. That's where I stand.
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  Speaker 1: To you, guys, thank you for listening to another episode
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  Speaker 1: of an Unlikely Affair. We're going to catch you next week.
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  Speaker 1: I love you, Amber, love you too.
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  Speaker 3: Bye bye.