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Understanding Sibling Dynamics through Children's Literature · Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast

• 4:01
  Hi,
• 4:02
  my
• 4:02
  name
• 4:02
  is
• 4:03
  Ann
• 4:03
  Gora,
• 4:04
  and
• 4:04
  I've
• 4:04
  written
• 4:05
  a
• 4:05
  book
• 4:05
  called
• 4:06
  I
• 4:06
  Am
• 4:07
  a
• 4:07
  Big
• 4:07
  Brother
• 4:08
  with
• 4:08
  a
• 4:08
  Superpower.
• 4:10
  Fantastic.
• 4:11
  Thanks,
• 4:11
  Anne,
• 4:12
  for
• 4:12
  appearing
• 4:13
  on
• 4:13
  the
• 4:13
  Adventures
• 4:14
  in
• 4:14
  the
• 4:14
  Heart
• 4:14
  of
• 4:14
  Children's
• 4:15
  Book
• 4:15
  Authors
• 4:16
  Podcast.
• 4:16
  Like
• 4:17
  Ann
• 4:17
  has
• 4:17
  mentioned,
• 4:18
  she's
• 4:18
  written
• 4:18
  a
• 4:19
  children's
• 4:19
  book.
• 4:20
  I'm
• 4:20
  a
• 4:20
  Big
• 4:21
  Brother
• 4:21
  with
• 4:21
  a
• 4:21
  Superpower.
• 4:22
  And
• 4:23
  I
• 4:23
  look
• 4:23
  forward
• 4:24
  to
• 4:24
  our
• 4:24
  conversation
• 4:25
  because
• 4:25
  I
• 4:25
  actually
• 4:26
  was
• 4:26
  a
• 4:26
  Big
• 4:27
  Brother
• 4:27
  at
• 4:27
  one
• 4:27
  time.
• 4:28
  I
• 4:28
  still
• 4:28
  am.
• 4:28
  I
• 4:29
  understand
• 4:29
  that
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  rule.
• 4:30
  Before
• 4:30
  we
• 4:30
  get
• 4:31
  into
• 4:31
  the
• 4:31
  details
• 4:32
  of
• 4:32
  your
• 4:32
  book,
• 4:32
  Ann,
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  I
• 4:33
  want
• 4:33
  to
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  share
• 4:34
  a
• 4:34
  little
• 4:35
  bit
• 4:35
  about
• 4:35
  you
• 4:36
  with
• 4:36
  our
• 4:36
  audience.
• 4:37
  You've
• 4:37
  got
• 4:37
  such
• 4:38
  an
• 4:38
  interesting
• 4:38
  background,
• 4:39
  and
• 4:39
  I
• 4:40
  wanted
• 4:40
  to
• 4:40
  let
• 4:40
  the
• 4:41
  listening
• 4:41
  audience
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  know
• 4:42
  that
• 4:42
  Ann
• 4:43
  is
• 4:43
  a
• 4:43
  pioneer
• 4:44
  in
• 4:45
  children's
• 4:45
  entertainment,
• 4:46
  and
• 4:47
  she
• 4:47
  was
• 4:47
  a
• 4:48
  popular
• 4:48
  children's
• 4:49
  TV
• 4:50
  host
• 4:50
  of
• 4:50
  Romper
• 4:51
  Room
• 4:51
  from
• 4:52
  1959
• 4:53
  into
• 4:53
  the
• 4:54
  late
• 4:54
  60s,
• 4:55
  and
• 4:55
  her
• 4:55
  show
• 4:55
  helped
• 4:56
  lay
• 4:56
  the
• 4:56
  foundation
• 4:57
  for
• 4:57
  such
• 4:57
  shows
• 4:58
  as
• 4:58
  Mr.
• 4:58
  Rogers,
• 4:59
  Sesame
• 4:59
  street,
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  and
• 5:00
  the
• 5:01
  Friendly
• 5:01
  Giant.
• 5:02
  And
• 5:02
  I
• 5:02
  am
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  at
• 5:03
  that
• 5:03
  age
• 5:03
  where
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  I
• 5:04
  watched
• 5:05
  all
• 5:05
  those
• 5:05
  shows.
• 5:06
  I'm
• 5:06
  familiar
• 5:06
  with
• 5:07
  them
• 5:07
  all.
• 5:08
  Can
• 5:08
  you
• 5:08
  tell
• 5:08
  us
• 5:09
  a
• 5:09
  little
• 5:09
  bit
• 5:09
  about
• 5:10
  that
• 5:11
  background
• 5:11
  that
• 5:12
  you
• 5:12
  had
• 5:12
  in
• 5:13
  the
• 5:13
  children's
• 5:14
  entertainment
• 5:14
  business
• 5:15
  from
• 5:15
  the
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  50s
• 5:16
  to
• 5:16
  the
• 5:16
  90s?
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  Tell
• 5:17
  us
• 5:17
  a
• 5:17
  little
• 5:17
  bit
• 5:17
  about
• 5:17
  that.
• 5:18
  I
• 5:19
  got
• 5:19
  the
• 5:19
  job
• 5:20
  in
• 5:20
  59,
• 5:21
  actually.
• 5:22
  And
• 5:23
  television,
• 5:24
  children's
• 5:25
  stuff,
• 5:25
  television
• 5:26
  started
• 5:26
  in
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  52,
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  and
• 5:29
  there
• 5:30
  were
• 5:30
  very
• 5:30
  few
• 5:31
  households
• 5:32
  that
• 5:32
  had
• 5:33
  a
• 5:33
  TV.
• 5:33
  But
• 5:34
  by
• 5:34
  the
• 5:34
  time,
• 5:35
  I
• 5:35
  think
• 5:35
  it
• 5:35
  was
• 5:36
  only
• 5:36
  about
• 5:37
  17%,
• 5:38
  14
• 5:39
  or
• 5:39
  17%
• 5:40
  of
• 5:40
  the
• 5:40
  households
• 5:42
  by
• 5:42
  59,
• 5:43
  when
• 5:43
  I
• 5:44
  got
• 5:44
  the
• 5:44
  job,
• 5:45
  there
• 5:45
  were
• 5:46
  about
• 5:46
  80%
• 5:47
  of
• 5:48
  the
• 5:48
  households
• 5:49
  really
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  mushroomed.
• 5:50
  It's
• 5:50
  almost
• 5:51
  like
• 5:51
  AI
• 5:52
  is
• 5:52
  today.
• 5:53
  Isn't
• 5:53
  that
• 5:54
  the
• 5:54
  truth?
• 5:54
  Yeah.
• 5:55
  So
• 5:55
  it
• 5:55
  mushroomed
• 5:56
  that
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  way.
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  And
• 5:57
  I
• 5:57
  got
• 5:58
  the
• 5:58
  job
• 5:58
  mostly
• 5:59
  because
• 5:59
  I
• 5:59
  wanted
• 6:00
  my
• 6:00
  hair
• 6:00
  done.
• 6:02
  My
• 6:02
  husband
• 6:02
  was
• 6:03
  just
• 6:03
  starting
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  out
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  in
• 6:04
  his
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  own
• 6:05
  business,
• 6:05
  and
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  we
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  were
• 6:06
  counting
• 6:07
  our
• 6:07
  pennies.
• 6:08
  We
• 6:08
  had
• 6:08
  two
• 6:08
  small
• 6:09
  children,
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  and
• 6:11
  I
• 6:11
  went
• 6:11
  and
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  visited
• 6:13
  a
• 6:13
  friend
• 6:13
  of
• 6:13
  mine
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  who
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  had
• 6:15
  two
• 6:15
  children.
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  So
• 6:16
  we
• 6:17
  had
• 6:17
  what
• 6:17
  they
• 6:17
  call
• 6:18
  now
• 6:18
  a
• 6:18
  play
• 6:18
  date
• 6:19
  for
• 6:19
  the
• 6:19
  children.
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  And
• 6:21
  they
• 6:21
  played.
• 6:21
  And
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  she
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  said,
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  and
• 6:23
  there's
• 6:24
  an
• 6:24
  announcement
• 6:25
  on
• 6:25
  the
• 6:25
  radio
• 6:26
  today
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  that
• 6:26
  they're
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  looking
• 6:27
  for
• 6:27
  someone
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  to
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  do
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  wrong
• 6:29
  room,
• 6:29
  replace
• 6:30
  the
• 6:30
  teacher
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  that
• 6:31
  they
• 6:31
  had.
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  And
• 6:32
  I
• 6:32
  said,
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  I
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  don't
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  think
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  so,
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  because
• 6:34
  I'd
• 6:34
  never
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  let
• 6:35
  my
• 6:35
  children
• 6:36
  watch
• 6:36
  this
• 6:36
  show.
• 6:37
  I
• 6:37
  felt
• 6:37
  they
• 6:37
  should
• 6:38
  have
• 6:38
  been
• 6:38
  outside
• 6:39
  in
• 6:39
  the
• 6:39
  yard
• 6:40
  playing
• 6:40
  with
• 6:40
  friends.
• 6:41
  And
• 6:41
  so
• 6:42
  I'd
• 6:42
  not
• 6:42
  seen
• 6:42
  the
• 6:43
  show,
• 6:43
  and
• 6:43
  this
• 6:43
  was
• 6:44
  Friday,
• 6:45
  and
• 6:45
  I
• 6:45
  thought
• 6:46
  about
• 6:46
  it
• 6:46
  on
• 6:46
  my
• 6:47
  way
• 6:47
  home
• 6:47
  from
• 6:47
  the
• 6:48
  play
• 6:48
  date,
• 6:49
  and
• 6:49
  I
• 6:49
  thought,
• 6:50
  actually,
• 6:51
  I.
• 6:51
  I
• 6:51
  think
• 6:51
  I
• 6:51
  will
• 6:52
  go
• 6:52
  for
• 6:52
  an
• 6:52
  interview.
• 6:53
  It
• 6:53
  won't
• 6:54
  hurt.
• 6:54
  Just
• 6:55
  go
• 6:55
  for
• 6:55
  an
• 6:55
  interview
• 6:56
  and
• 6:57
  I'll
• 6:57
  be
• 6:57
  able
• 6:57
  to
• 6:57
  have
• 6:58
  my
• 6:58
  hair
• 6:58
  done.
• 6:59
  Nice.
• 6:59
  Beyond
• 7:00
  that,
• 7:01
  so
• 7:01
  that's
• 7:02
  exactly
• 7:02
  what
• 7:02
  happened.
• 7:03
  And
• 7:03
  I
• 7:03
  hadn't
• 7:04
  seen
• 7:04
  the
• 7:04
  show,
• 7:05
  but
• 7:05
  I
• 7:05
  got
• 7:05
  the
• 7:06
  job.
• 7:06
  And
• 7:06
  that's
• 7:07
  story
• 7:07
  unto
• 7:08
  itself.
• 7:08
  So
• 7:09
  it
• 7:09
  was
• 7:09
  fun.
• 7:09
  And
• 7:10
  I
• 7:10
  did
• 7:10
  it
• 7:10
  not
• 7:11
  into
• 7:11
  the
• 7:11
  90s,
• 7:12
  but
• 7:13
  by
• 7:13
  the
• 7:14
  late
• 7:14
  1960s
• 7:16
  is
• 7:16
  when
• 7:17
  they
• 7:17
  could
• 7:18
  do
• 7:18
  a
• 7:18
  show,
• 7:18
  put
• 7:19
  it
• 7:19
  in
• 7:19
  a
• 7:19
  can
• 7:20
  and
• 7:20
  send
• 7:21
  it
• 7:21
  across
• 7:21
  the
• 7:22
  country.
• 7:23
  Before
• 7:23
  that,
• 7:23
  they
• 7:24
  had
• 7:24
  romper
• 7:24
  rooms
• 7:25
  in
• 7:25
  each
• 7:26
  station.
• 7:27
  And
• 7:27
  Romper
• 7:28
  Room
• 7:28
  was
• 7:28
  franchised
• 7:30
  and
• 7:30
  syndicated.
• 7:32
  But
• 7:32
  in
• 7:32
  the
• 7:33
  late
• 7:33
  60s,
• 7:34
  and
• 7:34
  this
• 7:35
  station
• 7:36
  came
• 7:36
  to
• 7:36
  me
• 7:37
  in
• 7:37
  65
• 7:39
  or
• 7:39
  66
• 7:40
  and
• 7:40
  said,
• 7:41
  we
• 7:41
  have
• 7:41
  to
• 7:41
  have
• 7:42
  Canadian
• 7:42
  content,
• 7:43
  but
• 7:43
  we're
• 7:44
  giving
• 7:44
  bompa
• 7:45
  room
• 7:45
  in
• 7:45
  the
• 7:45
  can.
• 7:47
  Yeah.
• 7:48
  And
• 7:48
  then
• 7:48
  so
• 7:48
  I
• 7:49
  created
• 7:49
  a
• 7:50
  show
• 7:50
  which
• 7:51
  I
• 7:51
  called
• 7:51
  over
• 7:52
  the
• 7:52
  Rainbow,
• 7:53
  which
• 7:53
  was
• 7:53
  a
• 7:54
  travel
• 7:54
  show
• 7:55
  for
• 7:55
  preschoolers.
• 7:57
  And
• 7:57
  it
• 7:58
  was
• 7:58
  fun.
• 7:58
  And
• 7:59
  I
• 7:59
  did
• 7:59
  that.
• 8:00
  And
• 8:00
  then
• 8:00
  they
• 8:01
  just
• 8:02
  didn't
• 8:02
  have
• 8:03
  the
• 8:03
  same
• 8:03
  restrictions
• 8:04
  for
• 8:04
  Canadian
• 8:05
  content.
• 8:06
  And
• 8:06
  so
• 8:07
  TVs
• 8:07
  didn't
• 8:08
  change.
• 8:08
  But
• 8:09
  I
• 8:09
  had
• 8:09
  a
• 8:09
  good
• 8:09
  go
• 8:10
  at
• 8:10
  it.
• 8:11
  Good
• 8:11
  for
• 8:11
  you.
• 8:12
  Fantastic.
• 8:12
  I
• 8:13
  said
• 8:13
  to
• 8:13
  my
• 8:13
  wife,
• 8:14
  I
• 8:14
  looked
• 8:14
  at
• 8:14
  your
• 8:15
  website
• 8:15
  and
• 8:16
  I
• 8:16
  noticed
• 8:16
  that
• 8:16
  jingle
• 8:17
  from
• 8:17
  romperoo.
• 8:19
  I
• 8:19
  said
• 8:19
  to
• 8:19
  my
• 8:20
  wife,
• 8:20
  you
• 8:20
  have
• 8:20
  to
• 8:20
  watch
• 8:20
  this
• 8:21
  because
• 8:21
  she
• 8:21
  can
• 8:22
  remember
• 8:22
  the
• 8:22
  show.
• 8:23
  So
• 8:23
  it'll
• 8:23
  be
• 8:23
  the
• 8:23
  jingle.
• 8:24
  Always
• 8:24
  the
• 8:25
  music
• 8:25
  that
• 8:25
  catches
• 8:26
  your
• 8:26
  ear.
• 8:26
  For
• 8:26
  sure.
• 8:27
  Yeah.
• 8:28
  Thank
• 8:28
  you
• 8:28
  for
• 8:28
  sharing
• 8:29
  that.
• 8:29
  I'm
• 8:30
  curious
• 8:30
  now.
• 8:31
  Our
• 8:31
  audience
• 8:32
  will
• 8:32
  know
• 8:32
  more
• 8:32
  as
• 8:33
  we
• 8:33
  get
• 8:33
  into
• 8:33
  this,
• 8:33
  but
• 8:34
  tell
• 8:34
  us
• 8:35
  what
• 8:35
  it
• 8:35
  means
• 8:35
  to
• 8:36
  you
• 8:36
  after
• 8:37
  such
• 8:37
  a
• 8:37
  long
• 8:37
  career
• 8:38
  in
• 8:38
  children's
• 8:39
  entertainment.
• 8:39
  Tell
• 8:40
  us
• 8:40
  what
• 8:40
  it
• 8:40
  means
• 8:40
  to
• 8:41
  you
• 8:41
  to
• 8:41
  be
• 8:41
  a
• 8:41
  children.
• 8:42
  Children's
• 8:42
  book
• 8:42
  author.
• 8:43
  That
• 8:43
  was
• 8:43
  a
• 8:44
  wonderful
• 8:45
  journey.
• 8:45
  As
• 8:46
  it
• 8:46
  happened.
• 8:46
  Noreen
• 8:47
  here
• 8:48
  was
• 8:48
  very
• 8:48
  helpful
• 8:49
  in
• 8:49
  getting
• 8:49
  that
• 8:50
  done.
• 8:50
  She
• 8:50
  encouraged
• 8:51
  me
• 8:51
  to
• 8:52
  do
• 8:52
  that.
• 8:52
  And
• 8:53
  we
• 8:53
  got
• 8:53
  an
• 8:53
  artist.
• 8:55
  It
• 8:55
  was
• 8:55
  exciting,
• 8:56
  but
• 8:56
  also
• 8:57
  it's
• 8:57
  a
• 8:58
  whole
• 8:58
  other
• 8:58
  industry,
• 9:00
  requires
• 9:01
  other
• 9:01
  things.
• 9:02
  But
• 9:02
  I'm
• 9:02
  happy
• 9:03
  I
• 9:03
  did
• 9:03
  the
• 9:03
  book
• 9:04
  because
• 9:04
  I
• 9:04
  think
• 9:05
  it
• 9:05
  can
• 9:05
  be
• 9:06
  very
• 9:06
  useful
• 9:07
  to
• 9:08
  a
• 9:09
  family
• 9:09
  that
• 9:09
  has
• 9:10
  a
• 9:10
  child
• 9:11
  and
• 9:11
  brings
• 9:12
  another
• 9:12
  one
• 9:12
  home
• 9:13
  because
• 9:13
  they
• 9:13
  all
• 9:14
  had
• 9:14
  the
• 9:14
  same
• 9:15
  reaction.
• 9:16
  Yes.
• 9:16
  And
• 9:16
  as
• 9:17
  an
• 9:17
  older
• 9:17
  brother,
• 9:18
  I'm
• 9:18
  about
• 9:18
  two
• 9:19
  years
• 9:19
  older
• 9:19
  than
• 9:20
  my
• 9:20
  brother.
• 9:20
  Yeah.
• 9:21
  And
• 9:22
  it
• 9:22
  was
• 9:22
  interesting
• 9:23
  at
• 9:23
  the
• 9:23
  time,
• 9:24
  my
• 9:24
  mother
• 9:24
  had
• 9:25
  a
• 9:25
  sister
• 9:25
  and
• 9:26
  my
• 9:26
  aunt
• 9:26
  had
• 9:26
  her
• 9:27
  children.
• 9:27
  Just
• 9:28
  a
• 9:28
  little
• 9:28
  after
• 9:28
  my
• 9:29
  mother,
• 9:29
  I
• 9:29
  had
• 9:30
  a
• 9:30
  cousin,
• 9:31
  and
• 9:31
  he
• 9:31
  was
• 9:31
  a
• 9:31
  little
• 9:32
  bit
• 9:32
  older
• 9:32
  than
• 9:32
  my
• 9:32
  brother,
• 9:33
  but
• 9:33
  he
• 9:33
  had
• 9:34
  a
• 9:34
  brother
• 9:35
  come
• 9:35
  right
• 9:35
  behind
• 9:36
  him,
• 9:36
  too.
• 9:37
  So
• 9:37
  there
• 9:37
  was
• 9:37
  the
• 9:38
  four
• 9:38
  of
• 9:38
  us.
• 9:38
  And
• 9:39
  so
• 9:39
  two
• 9:39
  older
• 9:40
  brothers,
• 9:40
  two
• 9:40
  younger
• 9:41
  brothers.
• 9:41
  Interesting.
• 9:42
  Tell
• 9:42
  us,
• 9:43
  why
• 9:43
  did
• 9:43
  you
• 9:44
  decide?
• 9:44
  And
• 9:44
  I
• 9:44
  hope
• 9:44
  you
• 9:45
  don't
• 9:45
  mind
• 9:45
  me
• 9:45
  sharing,
• 9:45
  your
• 9:46
  age
• 9:46
  is
• 9:47
  at
• 9:48
  91.
• 9:49
  What
• 9:49
  made
• 9:50
  you
• 9:50
  decide
• 9:50
  to
• 9:51
  become
• 9:51
  a
• 9:51
  children's
• 9:52
  book
• 9:52
  author?
• 9:53
  I
• 9:53
  just
• 9:53
  thought
• 9:53
  that
• 9:54
  there
• 9:54
  was
• 9:54
  a
• 9:54
  message.
• 9:55
  Age
• 9:55
  had
• 9:56
  nothing
• 9:56
  to
• 9:56
  do
• 9:56
  with
• 9:57
  it.
• 9:57
  And
• 9:57
  I
• 9:57
  just
• 9:58
  thought,
• 9:58
  this
• 9:58
  is
• 9:59
  something
• 9:59
  I
• 10:00
  know
• 10:00
  about.
• 10:01
  And
• 10:01
  I
• 10:01
  think
• 10:01
  the
• 10:01
  empathy
• 10:02
  that
• 10:03
  could
• 10:03
  be
• 10:04
  given
• 10:05
  to
• 10:05
  the
• 10:05
  oldest
• 10:06
  one
• 10:07
  was.
• 10:07
  You
• 10:08
  don't
• 10:08
  think
• 10:08
  of
• 10:09
  that.
• 10:09
  You
• 10:09
  think
• 10:09
  it's
• 10:10
  wonderful.
• 10:10
  You've
• 10:10
  got
• 10:11
  another
• 10:11
  child
• 10:11
  that
• 10:12
  love
• 10:12
  it.
• 10:12
  It'll
• 10:13
  be
• 10:13
  so
• 10:14
  fantastic.
• 10:15
  And
• 10:15
  the
• 10:15
  first
• 10:15
  thing
• 10:16
  they
• 10:16
  want
• 10:16
  to
• 10:16
  do
• 10:16
  is
• 10:17
  just
• 10:17
  get
• 10:17
  rid
• 10:17
  of
• 10:18
  it.
• 10:19
  They
• 10:19
  said,
• 10:20
  hi.
• 10:20
  Put
• 10:21
  it
• 10:21
  back
• 10:21
  where
• 10:21
  it
• 10:21
  came
• 10:22
  from.
• 10:23
  Yeah.
• 10:24
  It's
• 10:24
  a
• 10:24
  very
• 10:24
  interesting
• 10:25
  dynamic.
• 10:26
  Tell
• 10:26
  us
• 10:27
  the
• 10:27
  inspiration
• 10:28
  behind
• 10:29
  your.
• 10:29
  Your
• 10:30
  book.
• 10:30
  How
• 10:30
  did
• 10:30
  you
• 10:30
  come
• 10:31
  up
• 10:31
  with
• 10:31
  this
• 10:31
  idea?
• 10:32
  I
• 10:32
  just
• 10:32
  saw
• 10:33
  it
• 10:33
  around
• 10:33
  me.
• 10:33
  I
• 10:34
  had
• 10:34
  two
• 10:34
  children
• 10:35
  and
• 10:35
  I
• 10:36
  had
• 10:36
  one
• 10:36
  that's
• 10:37
  older.
• 10:37
  They're
• 10:37
  different
• 10:38
  sexes,
• 10:39
  but
• 10:39
  I
• 10:39
  was
• 10:40
  just
• 10:40
  aware
• 10:40
  of
• 10:40
  it.
• 10:41
  And
• 10:41
  sometimes
• 10:41
  we
• 10:41
  don't
• 10:42
  read
• 10:42
  into
• 10:43
  the
• 10:43
  real
• 10:43
  feelings
• 10:44
  of
• 10:45
  the
• 10:45
  children
• 10:45
  and
• 10:46
  we
• 10:46
  don't
• 10:46
  take
• 10:46
  them
• 10:47
  into
• 10:47
  consideration.
• 10:48
  Especially
• 10:49
  way
• 10:49
  back
• 10:50
  when.
• 10:51
  Was
• 10:51
  your
• 10:51
  daughter
• 10:51
  or
• 10:52
  your
• 10:52
  son
• 10:52
  the
• 10:53
  oldest?
• 10:54
  My
• 10:54
  son
• 10:55
  was
• 10:55
  the
• 10:55
  eldest.
• 10:56
  My
• 10:56
  wife
• 10:56
  and
• 10:56
  I
• 10:57
  have
• 10:57
  two
• 10:57
  children
• 10:58
  and
• 10:58
  my
• 10:59
  daughter
• 10:59
  was
• 10:59
  the
• 10:59
  oldest.
• 11:00
  And
• 11:00
  then
• 11:00
  my
• 11:00
  son
• 11:01
  came
• 11:01
  along.
• 11:01
  He's
• 11:02
  over
• 11:02
  six
• 11:03
  feet.
• 11:03
  My
• 11:03
  daughter's
• 11:04
  five
• 11:05
  nothing.
• 11:05
  So
• 11:07
  it
• 11:07
  was
• 11:07
  an
• 11:08
  interesting
• 11:08
  dynamic
• 11:09
  watching
• 11:10
  her
• 11:10
  with
• 11:10
  him.
• 11:11
  He
• 11:11
  was
• 11:11
  a
• 11:11
  pretty
• 11:11
  heavy
• 11:12
  baby
• 11:12
  and
• 11:13
  watching
• 11:13
  that
• 11:13
  dynamic.
• 11:14
  Of
• 11:14
  course,
• 11:15
  yeah.
• 11:15
  I
• 11:15
  mean,
• 11:16
  they're
• 11:16
  all
• 11:16
  different,
• 11:17
  but
• 11:17
  it's
• 11:17
  just.
• 11:18
  I
• 11:18
  wrote
• 11:19
  it
• 11:19
  hopefully
• 11:20
  that
• 11:20
  there'd
• 11:20
  be
• 11:21
  more
• 11:21
  understanding
• 11:22
  and
• 11:22
  empathy
• 11:23
  and
• 11:24
  also
• 11:25
  give
• 11:25
  the
• 11:25
  older
• 11:26
  one
• 11:26
  the
• 11:26
  permission
• 11:27
  to
• 11:27
  have
• 11:28
  the
• 11:28
  feelings
• 11:28
  that
• 11:29
  they
• 11:29
  have.
• 11:29
  Good
• 11:29
  for
• 11:30
  you.
• 11:30
  And
• 11:30
  I
• 11:31
  noticed
• 11:31
  that
• 11:32
  you're
• 11:33
  still
• 11:33
  doing
• 11:34
  speaking
• 11:34
  events
• 11:35
  and
• 11:35
  are
• 11:35
  you
• 11:36
  also
• 11:36
  doing
• 11:36
  book
• 11:37
  readings
• 11:37
  with
• 11:37
  those
• 11:38
  speaking
• 11:38
  events?
• 11:39
  I
• 11:39
  was
• 11:40
  doing
• 11:40
  something
• 11:41
  that
• 11:41
  I
• 11:41
  loved.
• 11:42
  Just
• 11:42
  before
• 11:42
  COVID
• 11:43
  came.
• 11:43
  I
• 11:43
  was
• 11:44
  volunteering
• 11:45
  at
• 11:45
  the
• 11:45
  YMCA
• 11:46
  and
• 11:47
  I
• 11:47
  was
• 11:47
  going
• 11:47
  there
• 11:48
  to
• 11:48
  read
• 11:49
  books.
• 11:49
  I
• 11:50
  became
• 11:50
  the
• 11:50
  story
• 11:51
  lady.
• 11:52
  Walk
• 11:53
  in,
• 11:53
  I'd
• 11:53
  be
• 11:54
  there
• 11:54
  and
• 11:54
  just
• 11:55
  do
• 11:55
  the
• 11:55
  story
• 11:55
  with
• 11:56
  them.
• 11:56
  And
• 11:57
  I
• 11:57
  would
• 11:58
  tell
• 11:58
  the
• 11:58
  story
• 11:59
  and
• 11:59
  then
• 12:00
  show
• 12:00
  them
• 12:00
  it's
• 12:01
  a
• 12:01
  book.
• 12:02
  And
• 12:02
  they
• 12:02
  realized
• 12:03
  they
• 12:03
  did
• 12:03
  envision
• 12:04
  the
• 12:04
  story
• 12:05
  in
• 12:05
  a
• 12:05
  different
• 12:06
  way,
• 12:06
  but,
• 12:06
  oh,
• 12:07
  it's
• 12:07
  the
• 12:07
  same.
• 12:08
  So
• 12:09
  I
• 12:09
  had
• 12:09
  so
• 12:10
  much
• 12:10
  fun
• 12:10
  doing
• 12:11
  that.
• 12:11
  And
• 12:11
  I
• 12:11
  loved
• 12:12
  it.
• 12:12
  I
• 12:12
  did
• 12:12
  it
• 12:12
  for
• 12:13
  a
• 12:13
  few
• 12:13
  years.
• 12:13
  Then
• 12:14
  Covid
• 12:14
  came,
• 12:15
  and
• 12:15
  now
• 12:15
  I
• 12:16
  don't
• 12:16
  go
• 12:16
  near
• 12:17
  a
• 12:17
  kindergarten.
• 12:18
  That
• 12:19
  part
• 12:19
  is
• 12:19
  over.
• 12:20
  Then
• 12:20
  I
• 12:21
  got
• 12:21
  into
• 12:21
  writing
• 12:22
  this
• 12:22
  book,
• 12:23
  and
• 12:23
  now
• 12:23
  I'm
• 12:24
  really
• 12:25
  enjoying
• 12:25
  my
• 12:26
  story
• 12:27
  that
• 12:27
  I
• 12:28
  do.
• 12:28
  I'm
• 12:28
  part
• 12:28
  of
• 12:29
  people
• 12:29
  that
• 12:29
  do
• 12:29
  it.
• 12:30
  Are
• 12:30
  you
• 12:30
  going
• 12:30
  to
• 12:30
  libraries
• 12:31
  or
• 12:31
  are
• 12:32
  you
• 12:32
  going
• 12:32
  out
• 12:32
  to
• 12:33
  bookstores
• 12:33
  to
• 12:33
  read?
• 12:33
  I
• 12:34
  belong
• 12:34
  to
• 12:34
  a
• 12:35
  storytelling
• 12:36
  group
• 12:37
  from
• 12:37
  that.
• 12:37
  I
• 12:38
  just
• 12:38
  did
• 12:38
  a
• 12:39
  program
• 12:40
  for
• 12:41
  the
• 12:41
  Calgary
• 12:42
  Lifelong
• 12:44
  Learners
• 12:45
  Association.
• 12:46
  Oh,
• 12:46
  nice.
• 12:47
  Some
• 12:48
  of
• 12:48
  them
• 12:48
  had
• 12:49
  watched
• 12:49
  my
• 12:50
  show,
• 12:50
  of
• 12:50
  course,
• 12:51
  and
• 12:52
  they
• 12:52
  wanted
• 12:52
  to
• 12:53
  know
• 12:53
  the
• 12:53
  history
• 12:54
  of
• 12:54
  TV
• 12:55
  and
• 12:55
  how
• 12:56
  I
• 12:56
  fit
• 12:56
  in.
• 12:56
  And
• 12:57
  so
• 12:58
  I
• 12:58
  did
• 12:58
  that
• 12:59
  just
• 12:59
  recently.
• 13:00
  And
• 13:00
  I
• 13:00
  belong
• 13:01
  to
• 13:01
  a
• 13:01
  storytelling
• 13:02
  group
• 13:02
  that
• 13:02
  we
• 13:02
  get
• 13:03
  together
• 13:04
  once
• 13:04
  a
• 13:04
  month.
• 13:05
  And
• 13:06
  you
• 13:06
  can
• 13:06
  tell
• 13:06
  stories,
• 13:07
  but
• 13:07
  we
• 13:08
  also
• 13:08
  need
• 13:09
  listeners
• 13:09
  so
• 13:10
  you
• 13:10
  can
• 13:10
  come
• 13:10
  and
• 13:10
  just
• 13:11
  listen.
• 13:12
  So
• 13:12
  it's
• 13:12
  a
• 13:12
  lot
• 13:12
  of
• 13:12
  fun.
• 13:13
  And
• 13:13
  have
• 13:14
  you
• 13:14
  aspired
• 13:14
  any
• 13:15
  other
• 13:15
  people
• 13:16
  who
• 13:16
  are
• 13:17
  in
• 13:17
  your
• 13:17
  group
• 13:17
  to
• 13:18
  actually
• 13:18
  think
• 13:19
  about
• 13:19
  writing
• 13:20
  their
• 13:20
  own
• 13:20
  children's
• 13:21
  book?
• 13:21
  I
• 13:21
  think
• 13:21
  some
• 13:22
  of
• 13:22
  them
• 13:22
  have
• 13:23
  and
• 13:24
  I
• 13:25
  know
• 13:25
  they
• 13:25
  don't
• 13:26
  try
• 13:26
  and
• 13:26
  get
• 13:26
  anyone.
• 13:27
  You
• 13:28
  can't
• 13:28
  get
• 13:28
  people
• 13:29
  to
• 13:29
  do
• 13:29
  anything
• 13:30
  they
• 13:30
  don't
• 13:30
  want
• 13:31
  to
• 13:31
  do.
• 13:31
  Oh,
• 13:32
  for
• 13:32
  sure,
• 13:32
  absolutely.
• 13:33
  It
• 13:33
  gives
• 13:33
  a
• 13:34
  spark
• 13:35
  for
• 13:35
  any
• 13:36
  suggestions
• 13:36
  or
• 13:37
  talk
• 13:37
  or
• 13:37
  to
• 13:38
  listen
• 13:38
  or
• 13:38
  read
• 13:39
  it.
• 13:39
  I
• 13:39
  would
• 13:39
  love
• 13:39
  to.
• 13:41
  That's
• 13:41
  terrific.
• 13:41
  Because,
• 13:42
  you
• 13:43
  know,
• 13:43
  it
• 13:43
  was
• 13:43
  my
• 13:44
  grandchildren
• 13:45
  that
• 13:45
  inspired
• 13:46
  me
• 13:46
  to
• 13:47
  create
• 13:47
  a
• 13:47
  children's
• 13:48
  book
• 13:48
  series
• 13:49
  and
• 13:50
  they
• 13:50
  are
• 13:50
  actually
• 13:51
  co
• 13:51
  authors
• 13:52
  in
• 13:52
  all
• 13:53
  of
• 13:53
  our
• 13:53
  stories
• 13:54
  and
• 13:54
  we've
• 13:54
  published
• 13:55
  two
• 13:55
  books
• 13:55
  already.
• 13:56
  And
• 13:57
  our
• 13:57
  first
• 13:57
  book
• 13:58
  I
• 13:58
  co
• 13:58
  authored
• 13:59
  with
• 13:59
  my
• 13:59
  oldest
• 13:59
  granddaughter
• 14:00
  and
• 14:01
  our
• 14:01
  second
• 14:01
  book
• 14:02
  I
• 14:02
  co
• 14:02
  authored
• 14:02
  with
• 14:03
  my
• 14:03
  oldest
• 14:03
  granddaughter
• 14:04
  and
• 14:04
  my
• 14:04
  middle
• 14:05
  granddaughter.
• 14:05
  I
• 14:06
  have
• 14:06
  five
• 14:06
  grandchildren
• 14:07
  and
• 14:08
  all
• 14:08
  of
• 14:08
  them
• 14:08
  have
• 14:08
  helped
• 14:09
  write
• 14:09
  stories.
• 14:10
  So
• 14:10
  we
• 14:10
  have
• 14:10
  up
• 14:10
  to
• 14:10
  about
• 14:11
  38
• 14:11
  stories
• 14:12
  in
• 14:12
  our
• 14:12
  series,
• 14:13
  but
• 14:13
  we
• 14:14
  haven't
• 14:14
  published
• 14:14
  them
• 14:15
  all
• 14:15
  yet.
• 14:15
  But
• 14:15
  we
• 14:16
  certainly
• 14:16
  have
• 14:16
  had
• 14:17
  fun
• 14:17
  doing
• 14:17
  that.
• 14:18
  It's
• 14:18
  great.
• 14:18
  Great.
• 14:19
  Congratulations.
• 14:21
  Whether
• 14:21
  it's
• 14:22
  you
• 14:22
  or
• 14:22
  me,
• 14:22
  you're
• 14:23
  never
• 14:23
  too
• 14:23
  old
• 14:24
  to
• 14:24
  take
• 14:24
  on
• 14:25
  a
• 14:25
  new
• 14:25
  skill.
• 14:26
  No,
• 14:26
  I
• 14:26
  believe
• 14:27
  that
• 14:27
  it's
• 14:27
  just
• 14:28
  hard
• 14:28
  to
• 14:28
  do
• 14:28
  tango
• 14:29
  dancing
• 14:30
  if
• 14:30
  you
• 14:30
  can't
• 14:30
  find
• 14:31
  a
• 14:31
  partner.
• 14:32
  That's
• 14:32
  true,
• 14:33
  but
• 14:33
  I'm
• 14:33
  hopeful.
• 14:34
  I'm
• 14:35
  glad
• 14:35
  you
• 14:35
  are.
• 14:36
  I'm
• 14:36
  curious,
• 14:37
  in
• 14:37
  your
• 14:37
  publishing
• 14:38
  approach,
• 14:39
  are
• 14:40
  you
• 14:40
  self
• 14:41
  published
• 14:41
  or
• 14:41
  independently
• 14:42
  published?
• 14:43
  Self
• 14:43
  published.
• 14:44
  So
• 14:44
  you
• 14:44
  used
• 14:44
  a
• 14:45
  third
• 14:45
  party
• 14:46
  to
• 14:46
  help
• 14:46
  you
• 14:46
  bring
• 14:47
  your
• 14:47
  book
• 14:47
  to
• 14:47
  market?
• 14:48
  Yes,
• 14:49
  I
• 14:49
  did.
• 14:49
  Yeah.
• 14:50
  That's
• 14:50
  what
• 14:50
  you
• 14:51
  have
• 14:51
  to
• 14:51
  do.
• 14:52
  Yes.
• 14:53
  I
• 14:53
  don't
• 14:54
  not
• 14:54
  too
• 14:54
  interested
• 14:55
  in
• 14:56
  going
• 14:56
  through
• 14:57
  there's
• 14:57
  not
• 14:58
  another
• 14:58
  book
• 14:58
  in
• 14:59
  me
• 14:59
  yet.
• 14:59
  Unless
• 15:00
  it's
• 15:00
  about
• 15:00
  tango
• 15:01
  dancing.
• 15:02
  Okay,
• 15:03
  we'll
• 15:04
  see
• 15:04
  if
• 15:04
  I
• 15:04
  can
• 15:04
  find
• 15:05
  you
• 15:05
  a
• 15:05
  tango
• 15:06
  partner
• 15:07
  and
• 15:07
  send
• 15:07
  them
• 15:07
  down
• 15:08
  the
• 15:08
  highway.
• 15:08
  Okay,
• 15:09
  great.
• 15:10
  When
• 15:10
  you
• 15:10
  say
• 15:10
  self
• 15:11
  publish,
• 15:11
  what's
• 15:12
  the
• 15:12
  name
• 15:12
  of
• 15:12
  your
• 15:13
  publisher?
• 15:14
  Get
• 15:15
  you
• 15:15
  visible.
• 15:15
  They're
• 15:16
  local,
• 15:16
  out
• 15:17
  of
• 15:17
  Calgary.
• 15:18
  Yeah.
• 15:18
  And
• 15:19
  she's
• 15:19
  quite
• 15:19
  wonderful.
• 15:21
  Terrific,
• 15:21
  terrific.
• 15:22
  And
• 15:22
  did
• 15:23
  she
• 15:23
  help
• 15:23
  you
• 15:24
  find
• 15:24
  your
• 15:25
  illustrator?
• 15:26
  Tell
• 15:26
  us
• 15:27
  a
• 15:27
  story
• 15:27
  about
• 15:27
  your
• 15:28
  illustrator
• 15:28
  and
• 15:29
  how
• 15:29
  you
• 15:29
  connected
• 15:30
  with
• 15:30
  them.
• 15:30
  It
• 15:30
  was
• 15:31
  through
• 15:31
  the
• 15:32
  publisher
• 15:32
  and
• 15:33
  she
• 15:34
  got
• 15:34
  me
• 15:34
  connected
• 15:35
  with
• 15:35
  several
• 15:36
  and
• 15:37
  then
• 15:37
  she
• 15:37
  sent
• 15:38
  me
• 15:38
  the
• 15:39
  information
• 15:39
  about
• 15:40
  the
• 15:40
  one
• 15:40
  I
• 15:41
  chose.
• 15:41
  And
• 15:41
  what
• 15:41
  I
• 15:42
  found
• 15:42
  attractive
• 15:43
  to
• 15:43
  it
• 15:44
  was
• 15:45
  that
• 15:45
  she's
• 15:45
  partially
• 15:46
  blunt
• 15:47
  and
• 15:47
  I
• 15:47
  saw
• 15:47
  her
• 15:48
  drawings
• 15:48
  were
• 15:49
  so
• 15:49
  bright
• 15:50
  and
• 15:50
  cheerful
• 15:51
  and
• 15:52
  wonderful,
• 15:53
  I
• 15:53
  thought
• 15:53
  that's
• 15:54
  what
• 15:54
  I
• 15:54
  want.
• 15:54
  And
• 15:54
  I
• 15:55
  believe
• 15:55
  that
• 15:55
  the
• 15:56
  illustrations
• 15:57
  are
• 15:57
  just
• 15:57
  that.
• 15:58
  There
• 15:58
  are
• 15:58
  lots
• 15:58
  of
• 15:59
  thoughts
• 15:59
  in
• 15:59
  them.
• 16:00
  Incredible.
• 16:01
  Very
• 16:01
  vibrant.
• 16:02
  She's
• 16:03
  fantastic.
• 16:04
  And
• 16:05
  it
• 16:05
  was
• 16:05
  wonderful
• 16:06
  Steve's
• 16:07
  work.
• 16:07
  So
• 16:07
  you
• 16:08
  had
• 16:08
  written
• 16:08
  your
• 16:09
  book
• 16:09
  first
• 16:10
  and
• 16:10
  then
• 16:10
  you
• 16:11
  supplied
• 16:11
  her
• 16:11
  with
• 16:12
  the
• 16:12
  words
• 16:12
  and
• 16:13
  then
• 16:13
  she
• 16:13
  did
• 16:14
  some
• 16:14
  sample
• 16:15
  illustrations
• 16:16
  for
• 16:16
  you
• 16:16
  prior
• 16:17
  to
• 16:17
  you
• 16:17
  hiring
• 16:18
  her.
• 16:18
  Yeah.
• 16:19
  Okay,
• 16:19
  great.
• 16:21
  Because
• 16:21
  of
• 16:21
  her
• 16:22
  illustrations,
• 16:23
  not
• 16:23
  because
• 16:23
  of.
• 16:24
  Her
• 16:24
  handicap,
• 16:25
  my
• 16:25
  mother
• 16:26
  later
• 16:26
  in
• 16:27
  her
• 16:27
  life
• 16:28
  had
• 16:28
  to
• 16:28
  use
• 16:28
  an
• 16:29
  E
• 16:29
  reader.
• 16:29
  And
• 16:29
  she
• 16:30
  was.
• 16:30
  She
• 16:30
  always
• 16:31
  amazed
• 16:31
  us
• 16:31
  because
• 16:32
  she
• 16:32
  pretended
• 16:33
  to
• 16:33
  be
• 16:34
  a
• 16:34
  little
• 16:34
  bit
• 16:35
  blinder
• 16:35
  than
• 16:35
  she
• 16:36
  actually
• 16:36
  was.
• 16:37
  It's
• 16:37
  true,
• 16:38
  because
• 16:38
  she
• 16:38
  used
• 16:38
  to
• 16:39
  say
• 16:39
  she
• 16:40
  could
• 16:40
  hear
• 16:40
  a
• 16:40
  bird
• 16:40
  and
• 16:41
  then
• 16:41
  she'd
• 16:41
  tell
• 16:41
  us
• 16:41
  what
• 16:42
  color
• 16:42
  it
• 16:42
  was
• 16:42
  and
• 16:43
  we'd
• 16:43
  think,
• 16:43
  okay,
• 16:44
  mom,
• 16:44
  you're
• 16:45
  maybe
• 16:45
  stretching
• 16:46
  this
• 16:46
  out
• 16:46
  a
• 16:46
  little
• 16:47
  for
• 16:47
  us.
• 16:48
  So
• 16:48
  did
• 16:49
  you
• 16:49
  use
• 16:49
  the
• 16:49
  same
• 16:50
  illustrator
• 16:51
  to
• 16:51
  do
• 16:51
  the
• 16:52
  book
• 16:52
  cover
• 16:52
  design?
• 16:53
  Yeah.
• 16:53
  From
• 16:53
  there
• 16:54
  the
• 16:55
  publisher
• 16:56
  took
• 16:56
  your
• 16:56
  writing,
• 16:58
  took
• 16:58
  the
• 16:58
  illustrations,
• 16:59
  laid
• 17:00
  it
• 17:00
  out
• 17:00
  into
• 17:00
  a
• 17:00
  book
• 17:01
  format,
• 17:01
  came
• 17:02
  to
• 17:02
  you
• 17:02
  and
• 17:03
  showed
• 17:03
  you
• 17:03
  how
• 17:03
  the
• 17:03
  book
• 17:04
  laid
• 17:04
  out.
• 17:04
  Yeah,
• 17:05
  and
• 17:05
  I
• 17:05
  helped
• 17:06
  lay
• 17:06
  it
• 17:06
  out
• 17:06
  too.
• 17:07
  Age
• 17:07
  turning
• 17:08
  and
• 17:08
  WhatsApp.
• 17:09
  Oh,
• 17:10
  neat.
• 17:10
  And
• 17:11
  you've
• 17:11
  got
• 17:11
  in
• 17:11
  hardcover,
• 17:12
  soft
• 17:12
  cover
• 17:13
  and
• 17:13
  of
• 17:13
  course
• 17:13
  an
• 17:13
  ebook.
• 17:14
  Yeah.
• 17:14
  So
• 17:15
  I
• 17:15
  looked
• 17:15
  at
• 17:15
  your
• 17:16
  website.
• 17:16
  I
• 17:17
  like
• 17:17
  to
• 17:17
  talk
• 17:17
  a
• 17:18
  little
• 17:18
  bit
• 17:18
  about
• 17:18
  your
• 17:18
  website.
• 17:19
  I
• 17:19
  like.
• 17:20
  I
• 17:20
  said,
• 17:20
  I
• 17:20
  like
• 17:20
  the
• 17:20
  one
• 17:21
  video
• 17:21
  there
• 17:21
  where
• 17:22
  there's
• 17:22
  a
• 17:23
  little
• 17:23
  clip
• 17:23
  of
• 17:23
  Romper
• 17:24
  Room.
• 17:24
  So
• 17:25
  that
• 17:25
  was
• 17:25
  cool
• 17:25
  and
• 17:26
  brought
• 17:26
  back
• 17:27
  some
• 17:27
  memories.
• 17:27
  I
• 17:28
  noticed
• 17:28
  the
• 17:28
  name
• 17:28
  of
• 17:29
  your
• 17:29
  website
• 17:29
  is
• 17:30
  Miss
• 17:30
  and
• 17:31
  Get
• 17:32
  response
• 17:33
  site.
• 17:33
  It's
• 17:33
  a
• 17:34
  landing
• 17:34
  page,
• 17:35
  Rick,
• 17:35
  on
• 17:36
  a
• 17:36
  CRM
• 17:36
  system.
• 17:37
  Okay.
• 17:38
  Yeah.
• 17:38
  Because
• 17:38
  I
• 17:38
  went
• 17:38
  there
• 17:39
  and
• 17:39
  I
• 17:39
  noticed
• 17:40
  that
• 17:40
  I
• 17:40
  just
• 17:40
  looked
• 17:41
  at
• 17:41
  what
• 17:41
  was
• 17:41
  in
• 17:41
  the
• 17:42
  URL.
• 17:43
  URL.
• 17:43
  Exactly.
• 17:45
  So
• 17:45
  how
• 17:45
  did
• 17:45
  you
• 17:45
  come
• 17:46
  up
• 17:46
  with
• 17:46
  that
• 17:46
  name?
• 17:46
  Was
• 17:47
  there
• 17:47
  a
• 17:47
  specific
• 17:48
  reason?
• 17:48
  It's
• 17:49
  just
• 17:49
  the
• 17:49
  name
• 17:49
  of
• 17:49
  the
• 17:50
  CRM
• 17:51
  system.
• 17:51
  Get
• 17:52
  response.
• 17:52
  Okay.
• 17:53
  Yeah.
• 17:53
  I
• 17:53
  was
• 17:53
  trying
• 17:54
  to
• 17:54
  understand
• 17:54
  was
• 17:55
  there
• 17:55
  a
• 17:55
  connection
• 17:56
  or
• 17:56
  reading?
• 17:56
  Because
• 17:57
  I
• 17:57
  was
• 17:57
  thinking,
• 17:57
  okay,
• 17:58
  what's
• 17:58
  the
• 17:58
  connection
• 17:59
  to
• 17:59
  the
• 17:59
  name
• 18:00
  and
• 18:00
  to
• 18:00
  the
• 18:00
  book?
• 18:01
  And
• 18:01
  I
• 18:02
  was
• 18:02
  thinking
• 18:02
  that
• 18:02
  a
• 18:02
  superhero
• 18:03
  and
• 18:04
  getting
• 18:04
  response
• 18:05
  by
• 18:05
  getting
• 18:05
  out
• 18:06
  there
• 18:06
  and
• 18:06
  so
• 18:07
  had
• 18:07
  nothing
• 18:07
  to
• 18:08
  do
• 18:08
  with
• 18:08
  that
• 18:08
  at
• 18:08
  all?
• 18:09
  No,
• 18:09
  it's
• 18:09
  just
• 18:09
  a
• 18:10
  landing
• 18:10
  page.
• 18:10
  Okay,
• 18:11
  terrific.
• 18:12
  Just
• 18:12
  so
• 18:13
  everyone
• 18:13
  understands
• 18:14
  when
• 18:14
  they
• 18:15
  go
• 18:15
  to
• 18:15
  your
• 18:15
  website
• 18:16
  why
• 18:16
  it
• 18:16
  is
• 18:17
  what
• 18:17
  it
• 18:17
  is.
• 18:18
  And
• 18:18
  who
• 18:19
  did
• 18:19
  the
• 18:19
  design
• 18:19
  for
• 18:20
  you?
• 18:20
  The
• 18:20
  illustrator.
• 18:21
  Illustrator
• 18:22
  Karen.
• 18:24
  Okay.
• 18:24
  Written
• 18:25
  and
• 18:25
  illustrated
• 18:26
  by
• 18:26
  Karen
• 18:26
  Argue.
• 18:27
  I
• 18:27
  want
• 18:28
  to
• 18:28
  just
• 18:28
  maybe
• 18:28
  take
• 18:29
  you
• 18:29
  back
• 18:29
  a
• 18:29
  bit.
• 18:29
  When
• 18:30
  you
• 18:30
  first
• 18:30
  started
• 18:30
  writing
• 18:31
  your
• 18:31
  book,
• 18:32
  was
• 18:32
  there
• 18:32
  a
• 18:33
  specific
• 18:33
  person
• 18:35
  or
• 18:35
  event
• 18:36
  that
• 18:36
  motivated
• 18:37
  you
• 18:37
  to
• 18:37
  write
• 18:38
  this
• 18:38
  book?
• 18:38
  Yes.
• 18:39
  I
• 18:39
  have
• 18:40
  some
• 18:40
  great
• 18:40
  grandchildren.
• 18:42
  And
• 18:42
  I
• 18:43
  was
• 18:43
  talking
• 18:44
  with
• 18:45
  the
• 18:46
  older
• 18:46
  one,
• 18:47
  the
• 18:47
  boy,
• 18:48
  and
• 18:48
  we
• 18:48
  were
• 18:49
  visiting
• 18:50
  facetime.
• 18:51
  They
• 18:51
  live
• 18:51
  in
• 18:52
  another
• 18:52
  city.
• 18:53
  And
• 18:53
  he
• 18:54
  said
• 18:54
  to
• 18:54
  me
• 18:55
  that
• 18:56
  he
• 18:56
  was
• 18:56
  really
• 18:57
  very
• 18:57
  hurt
• 18:58
  by
• 18:58
  his
• 18:58
  sister.
• 18:59
  And
• 18:59
  I
• 19:00
  said,
• 19:00
  so
• 19:00
  what
• 19:00
  happened?
• 19:01
  And
• 19:02
  he
• 19:02
  said,
• 19:02
  we
• 19:03
  were
• 19:03
  cholerae.
• 19:04
  And
• 19:05
  I
• 19:05
  asked
• 19:05
  her
• 19:06
  to
• 19:06
  pounce
• 19:07
  me
• 19:08
  the
• 19:08
  red
• 19:08
  crayon,
• 19:09
  please.
• 19:10
  And
• 19:10
  she
• 19:10
  looked
• 19:11
  at
• 19:11
  me
• 19:12
  and
• 19:12
  she
• 19:13
  just
• 19:13
  said,
• 19:14
  no.
• 19:14
  And
• 19:15
  I
• 19:15
  thought
• 19:15
  that
• 19:15
  was
• 19:15
  such
• 19:16
  a
• 19:16
  simple
• 19:16
  thing.
• 19:17
  And
• 19:18
  that's
• 19:18
  what
• 19:18
  they
• 19:18
  did.
• 19:19
  The
• 19:19
  younger
• 19:19
  one
• 19:20
  likes
• 19:20
  to
• 19:20
  have
• 19:20
  the
• 19:21
  power
• 19:21
  or
• 19:21
  no.
• 19:22
  She
• 19:22
  couldn't
• 19:22
  say
• 19:22
  no
• 19:23
  or
• 19:23
  whatever.
• 19:24
  And
• 19:24
  that
• 19:25
  was
• 19:25
  the
• 19:25
  seed
• 19:26
  that
• 19:26
  started
• 19:26
  it
• 19:27
  because
• 19:27
  it
• 19:27
  was
• 19:27
  an
• 19:28
  ordinary
• 19:29
  coloring
• 19:30
  together,
• 19:30
  but
• 19:31
  because
• 19:31
  he
• 19:32
  felt
• 19:32
  so
• 19:32
  catholic
• 19:33
  about
• 19:33
  it,
• 19:34
  and
• 19:34
  she
• 19:34
  hasn't
• 19:35
  got
• 19:35
  a
• 19:35
  clue
• 19:36
  that
• 19:36
  anything's
• 19:37
  going
• 19:37
  on.
• 19:38
  So
• 19:38
  that
• 19:38
  was
• 19:38
  the
• 19:39
  seed
• 19:39
  for
• 19:39
  the
• 19:39
  book.
• 19:40
  And
• 19:40
  then
• 19:40
  it's
• 19:41
  very
• 19:41
  popular
• 19:42
  to
• 19:42
  be
• 19:43
  a
• 19:43
  superhero.
• 19:44
  You
• 19:45
  got
• 19:45
  that
• 19:45
  seed.
• 19:46
  How
• 19:46
  quickly
• 19:46
  did
• 19:46
  it
• 19:46
  take
• 19:47
  you
• 19:47
  to
• 19:47
  actually
• 19:48
  think,
• 19:48
  okay,
• 19:48
  I'm
• 19:49
  going
• 19:49
  to
• 19:49
  put
• 19:49
  this
• 19:49
  down
• 19:50
  into
• 19:50
  words?
• 19:51
  I
• 19:51
  took
• 19:51
  a
• 19:52
  note
• 19:52
  of
• 19:52
  it.
• 19:52
  And
• 19:52
  then
• 19:53
  I
• 19:53
  would
• 19:53
  ask
• 19:53
  him
• 19:53
  other
• 19:54
  questions
• 19:54
  as
• 19:55
  time
• 19:55
  went
• 19:55
  on
• 19:56
  to
• 19:56
  see
• 19:56
  how
• 19:56
  the
• 19:57
  two
• 19:57
  of
• 19:57
  them
• 19:57
  were
• 19:57
  getting
• 19:58
  on.
• 19:58
  And
• 19:58
  I
• 19:59
  could
• 19:59
  see
• 19:59
  there
• 19:59
  was.
• 20:00
  There's
• 20:00
  this
• 20:01
  going.
• 20:02
  Yeah.
• 20:03
  And
• 20:03
  so
• 20:04
  I
• 20:04
  just
• 20:04
  pursued
• 20:05
  it.
• 20:05
  I
• 20:05
  would
• 20:06
  keep
• 20:06
  asking
• 20:06
  him.
• 20:07
  And
• 20:07
  then
• 20:08
  I
• 20:08
  thought,
• 20:08
  we
• 20:08
  have
• 20:08
  to
• 20:09
  have
• 20:09
  some
• 20:09
  solution
• 20:10
  in
• 20:10
  the
• 20:10
  book.
• 20:10
  You
• 20:11
  have
• 20:11
  to
• 20:11
  give
• 20:11
  them
• 20:11
  something
• 20:12
  to
• 20:12
  go
• 20:12
  on.
• 20:13
  And
• 20:13
  I
• 20:14
  think
• 20:14
  that
• 20:14
  for
• 20:15
  children
• 20:15
  to
• 20:15
  learn
• 20:16
  to
• 20:16
  breathe
• 20:17
  when
• 20:17
  they're
• 20:17
  feeling
• 20:18
  anxious
• 20:19
  is
• 20:20
  such
• 20:20
  a
• 20:21
  gift
• 20:21
  to
• 20:22
  the
• 20:22
  child.
• 20:23
  No
• 20:23
  question.
• 20:24
  And
• 20:24
  for
• 20:24
  adults
• 20:25
  also.
• 20:26
  Yeah,
• 20:26
  they're
• 20:26
  trying
• 20:26
  to,
• 20:27
  but
• 20:27
  they
• 20:28
  don't
• 20:28
  think
• 20:28
  of
• 20:28
  teaching
• 20:29
  it
• 20:29
  to
• 20:29
  somebody
• 20:30
  that
• 20:30
  they're
• 20:30
  young.
• 20:31
  This
• 20:31
  same
• 20:32
  grandson
• 20:33
  is
• 20:33
  into
• 20:34
  gymnastics,
• 20:35
  and
• 20:35
  he
• 20:36
  was
• 20:37
  competing
• 20:38
  last
• 20:39
  fall
• 20:39
  or
• 20:40
  spring.
• 20:41
  And
• 20:41
  he
• 20:41
  told
• 20:42
  me
• 20:42
  just
• 20:42
  the
• 20:43
  other
• 20:43
  night
• 20:43
  that
• 20:44
  I
• 20:44
  think
• 20:44
  about
• 20:45
  you
• 20:45
  all
• 20:45
  the
• 20:46
  time,
• 20:46
  because
• 20:47
  before
• 20:47
  I
• 20:47
  have
• 20:48
  to
• 20:48
  go
• 20:49
  into
• 20:49
  competition,
• 20:50
  I
• 20:51
  try
• 20:51
  and
• 20:51
  get
• 20:52
  there
• 20:52
  early.
• 20:53
  I
• 20:53
  try
• 20:53
  and
• 20:54
  get
• 20:54
  there
• 20:55
  and
• 20:55
  sit
• 20:55
  down,
• 20:56
  and
• 20:56
  I
• 20:57
  do
• 20:57
  my.
• 20:58
  Oh,
• 20:58
  that's
• 20:59
  terrific.
• 20:59
  So
• 21:00
  does
• 21:00
  he
• 21:00
  know
• 21:00
  that
• 21:01
  he's
• 21:01
  the
• 21:02
  big
• 21:02
  brother
• 21:02
  with
• 21:03
  the
• 21:03
  superpower?
• 21:04
  He
• 21:04
  doesn't
• 21:04
  really
• 21:05
  care.
• 21:06
  They're
• 21:06
  very
• 21:07
  happy
• 21:07
  about
• 21:07
  the
• 21:08
  book,
• 21:08
  and
• 21:08
  they
• 21:08
  know
• 21:09
  that's
• 21:09
  the
• 21:09
  idea
• 21:10
  behind
• 21:10
  it.
• 21:10
  If
• 21:10
  you're
• 21:11
  having
• 21:11
  anxiety,
• 21:13
  then
• 21:13
  just.
• 21:14
  You
• 21:14
  can
• 21:14
  just
• 21:15
  do
• 21:15
  it.
• 21:15
  You
• 21:15
  can
• 21:15
  lie
• 21:16
  down,
• 21:16
  you
• 21:16
  can
• 21:16
  sit
• 21:17
  down,
• 21:17
  and
• 21:18
  wherever
• 21:18
  you
• 21:19
  are,
• 21:19
  and
• 21:19
  you
• 21:19
  can
• 21:20
  make
• 21:20
  yourself
• 21:21
  feel
• 21:21
  better.
• 21:22
  Doesn't
• 21:22
  depend
• 21:23
  on
• 21:23
  anyone
• 21:23
  else.
• 21:24
  Absolutely.
• 21:25
  Let's
• 21:25
  jump
• 21:26
  a
• 21:26
  little
• 21:26
  bit
• 21:26
  into
• 21:26
  your
• 21:27
  story.
• 21:27
  Tell
• 21:27
  us
• 21:28
  a
• 21:28
  little
• 21:28
  bit
• 21:28
  about
• 21:29
  the.
• 21:29
  Main
• 21:30
  character,
• 21:30
  this
• 21:31
  special
• 21:31
  kind
• 21:32
  of
• 21:32
  kid.
• 21:33
  He's
• 21:34
  just
• 21:34
  aware
• 21:34
  he
• 21:35
  has
• 21:35
  ordinary
• 21:36
  feelings.
• 21:37
  The
• 21:37
  main
• 21:38
  character
• 21:39
  is,
• 21:39
  I
• 21:39
  guess,
• 21:39
  based
• 21:40
  very
• 21:40
  much
• 21:40
  on
• 21:41
  what
• 21:42
  I
• 21:42
  perceive
• 21:43
  the
• 21:43
  relationship
• 21:44
  was
• 21:44
  with
• 21:44
  my
• 21:45
  great
• 21:45
  friends
• 21:45
  Angela.
• 21:46
  Not
• 21:46
  in
• 21:46
  the
• 21:47
  same
• 21:47
  city,
• 21:48
  so
• 21:48
  we
• 21:48
  don't
• 21:48
  have
• 21:49
  as
• 21:49
  much
• 21:49
  interaction.
• 21:51
  But
• 21:51
  when
• 21:51
  he
• 21:51
  shared
• 21:52
  that
• 21:52
  to
• 21:53
  me,
• 21:53
  that
• 21:54
  was
• 21:54
  meaningful.
• 21:54
  And
• 21:55
  I
• 21:55
  do
• 21:55
  mention
• 21:56
  to
• 21:56
  my
• 21:56
  great
• 21:56
  granddaughter,
• 21:57
  too,
• 21:58
  how
• 21:58
  she.
• 21:59
  That
• 21:59
  our
• 22:00
  minds
• 22:01
  really
• 22:01
  control
• 22:02
  our
• 22:02
  body.
• 22:03
  And
• 22:03
  I
• 22:03
  noticed
• 22:04
  you
• 22:04
  introduced
• 22:04
  his
• 22:05
  cousin.
• 22:05
  Yeah.
• 22:06
  That's
• 22:06
  why
• 22:06
  the
• 22:06
  story
• 22:07
  really
• 22:08
  resonated
• 22:08
  with
• 22:09
  me,
• 22:09
  is
• 22:09
  because
• 22:10
  it
• 22:10
  was
• 22:10
  almost
• 22:11
  as
• 22:11
  if
• 22:12
  you
• 22:12
  had
• 22:12
  taken
• 22:12
  a
• 22:13
  peek
• 22:13
  into
• 22:13
  my
• 22:13
  life.
• 22:14
  I
• 22:15
  thought
• 22:15
  oh,
• 22:16
  how
• 22:16
  did
• 22:16
  Anne
• 22:17
  do
• 22:17
  that?
• 22:19
  And
• 22:19
  as
• 22:19
  the
• 22:20
  story
• 22:20
  unfolds,
• 22:20
  you've
• 22:21
  got
• 22:21
  the
• 22:21
  mom
• 22:21
  and
• 22:21
  dad
• 22:23
  and
• 22:24
  that
• 22:24
  relationship
• 22:25
  and
• 22:25
  then
• 22:26
  eventually
• 22:26
  comes
• 22:27
  the
• 22:27
  sister.
• 22:28
  Talk
• 22:28
  to
• 22:29
  us
• 22:29
  a
• 22:29
  little
• 22:29
  bit
• 22:30
  about
• 22:30
  the
• 22:31
  drama
• 22:31
  without
• 22:32
  giving
• 22:32
  too
• 22:32
  much
• 22:32
  of
• 22:33
  the
• 22:33
  book
• 22:33
  away.
• 22:33
  The
• 22:34
  drama.
• 22:34
  And
• 22:35
  it
• 22:35
  just
• 22:35
  happens,
• 22:36
  just
• 22:36
  how
• 22:36
  it
• 22:36
  works.
• 22:37
  The
• 22:37
  parents
• 22:38
  are
• 22:38
  so
• 22:38
  delighted
• 22:39
  having
• 22:39
  another
• 22:40
  healthy
• 22:40
  baby
• 22:42
  and
• 22:42
  they
• 22:42
  include
• 22:43
  the
• 22:43
  other
• 22:43
  child.
• 22:44
  I
• 22:44
  think
• 22:45
  by
• 22:45
  saying,
• 22:45
  oh,
• 22:46
  here's
• 22:46
  a
• 22:47
  gift
• 22:47
  from
• 22:48
  your
• 22:48
  new
• 22:49
  sister.
• 22:50
  And
• 22:50
  in
• 22:50
  a
• 22:50
  way,
• 22:51
  oblivious
• 22:52
  to
• 22:52
  the
• 22:52
  fact
• 22:52
  that
• 22:53
  the
• 22:53
  older
• 22:53
  child
• 22:55
  is
• 22:55
  feeling
• 22:55
  neglected
• 22:56
  or.
• 22:57
  Exactly.
• 22:58
  You
• 22:58
  can
• 22:58
  discuss
• 22:59
  the
• 22:59
  theme
• 22:59
  a
• 22:59
  little
• 23:00
  bit
• 23:00
  deeper.
• 23:00
  Talk
• 23:01
  to
• 23:01
  the
• 23:01
  audience
• 23:01
  about
• 23:02
  your
• 23:02
  theme.
• 23:03
  There's
• 23:03
  a
• 23:03
  very
• 23:04
  happy
• 23:04
  couple
• 23:05
  having
• 23:05
  their
• 23:06
  first
• 23:06
  baby
• 23:07
  and
• 23:08
  their
• 23:08
  world
• 23:08
  is
• 23:09
  changing
• 23:10
  and
• 23:10
  they're
• 23:11
  excited
• 23:11
  about
• 23:12
  this
• 23:12
  new
• 23:12
  baby
• 23:13
  is
• 23:13
  now
• 23:13
  walking
• 23:14
  and
• 23:14
  talking
• 23:15
  and
• 23:16
  now
• 23:16
  they're
• 23:16
  going
• 23:17
  to
• 23:17
  have
• 23:18
  another
• 23:19
  sibling
• 23:20
  for
• 23:20
  this
• 23:20
  baby.
• 23:21
  And
• 23:22
  so
• 23:22
  the
• 23:22
  world
• 23:22
  is
• 23:22
  wonderful.
• 23:23
  It's
• 23:23
  wonderful
• 23:24
  because
• 23:24
  it
• 23:25
  can't.
• 23:25
  Then
• 23:26
  the
• 23:26
  new
• 23:26
  baby
• 23:27
  comes
• 23:27
  and
• 23:28
  you'll
• 23:28
  let
• 23:28
  the
• 23:28
  baby
• 23:29
  feel
• 23:29
  the
• 23:30
  kicking
• 23:30
  on
• 23:30
  the
• 23:31
  stomach
• 23:31
  and
• 23:32
  they
• 23:32
  include
• 23:33
  the
• 23:33
  baby.
• 23:35
  But
• 23:35
  it
• 23:35
  still,
• 23:36
  it
• 23:36
  doesn't
• 23:37
  work
• 23:37
  because
• 23:38
  all
• 23:38
  the
• 23:38
  attention
• 23:39
  goes
• 23:40
  to
• 23:40
  the
• 23:40
  baby.
• 23:41
  And
• 23:41
  so
• 23:42
  that's
• 23:42
  a
• 23:42
  pressure
• 23:43
  and
• 23:43
  it's
• 23:43
  hard
• 23:43
  feelings.
• 23:44
  It
• 23:45
  hurts.
• 23:45
  And
• 23:46
  so
• 23:46
  I'm
• 23:46
  really
• 23:47
  pleased,
• 23:47
  I
• 23:47
  think
• 23:48
  I
• 23:48
  did
• 23:48
  it
• 23:48
  in
• 23:48
  the
• 23:48
  book,
• 23:49
  that
• 23:49
  he
• 23:50
  realizes
• 23:50
  that
• 23:51
  she's
• 23:52
  out
• 23:52
  going
• 23:52
  away
• 23:53
  and
• 23:53
  he
• 23:54
  can't
• 23:54
  tell
• 23:54
  the
• 23:54
  garbage
• 23:55
  collector
• 23:56
  to
• 23:56
  take
• 23:56
  her
• 23:56
  in
• 23:56
  the
• 23:57
  garbage,
• 23:59
  those
• 23:59
  sort
• 24:00
  of
• 24:00
  things.
• 24:01
  But
• 24:01
  it's
• 24:01
  a
• 24:01
  happy
• 24:02
  ending
• 24:02
  because
• 24:03
  you
• 24:04
  just
• 24:04
  have
• 24:04
  to
• 24:04
  deal
• 24:05
  with
• 24:05
  it.
• 24:05
  And
• 24:05
  it's
• 24:06
  one
• 24:06
  of
• 24:06
  the
• 24:06
  things
• 24:06
  in
• 24:07
  life
• 24:07
  you
• 24:07
  have
• 24:08
  to
• 24:08
  deal
• 24:08
  with.
• 24:08
  And
• 24:09
  it
• 24:09
  was
• 24:09
  that
• 24:09
  he
• 24:09
  actually
• 24:10
  came
• 24:10
  up
• 24:10
  with
• 24:10
  his
• 24:11
  own
• 24:11
  solution.
• 24:12
  Yeah.
• 24:12
  Yeah.
• 24:13
  And
• 24:13
  then
• 24:13
  he
• 24:13
  taught
• 24:14
  his
• 24:14
  cousin
• 24:14
  how
• 24:15
  to
• 24:15
  do
• 24:15
  it.
• 24:16
  I
• 24:16
  think
• 24:16
  the
• 24:16
  message
• 24:17
  can
• 24:17
  get
• 24:17
  across,
• 24:18
  but
• 24:18
  I
• 24:18
  think
• 24:18
  the
• 24:19
  book
• 24:19
  is
• 24:19
  really
• 24:19
  meant
• 24:20
  for
• 24:20
  a
• 24:20
  certain
• 24:21
  niche.
• 24:22
  Right.
• 24:23
  New
• 24:23
  parents
• 24:24
  have
• 24:25
  a
• 24:25
  second
• 24:26
  baby
• 24:27
  and
• 24:27
  that
• 24:27
  a
• 24:27
  gift
• 24:27
  from
• 24:28
  the
• 24:28
  baby
• 24:28
  isn't
• 24:29
  going
• 24:29
  to
• 24:29
  do
• 24:29
  it.
• 24:30
  You
• 24:30
  have
• 24:30
  to
• 24:30
  be
• 24:30
  aware
• 24:31
  on
• 24:31
  a
• 24:32
  daily
• 24:32
  basis
• 24:33
  that,
• 24:33
  yes,
• 24:34
  I
• 24:34
  have
• 24:34
  to
• 24:34
  look
• 24:35
  after
• 24:35
  the
• 24:35
  baby.
• 24:36
  Even
• 24:36
  though
• 24:36
  you
• 24:36
  need.
• 24:37
  And
• 24:37
  it's
• 24:38
  a
• 24:38
  lesson
• 24:39
  in
• 24:39
  life.
• 24:39
  My
• 24:40
  son
• 24:40
  has
• 24:40
  three
• 24:41
  children
• 24:42
  and
• 24:42
  my
• 24:42
  daughter
• 24:43
  has
• 24:43
  two
• 24:43
  children.
• 24:44
  It's
• 24:44
  even
• 24:45
  that
• 24:45
  dynamic
• 24:46
  with
• 24:46
  my
• 24:47
  daughter.
• 24:48
  There's
• 24:48
  a
• 24:48
  10
• 24:48
  year
• 24:49
  spread
• 24:49
  between
• 24:50
  her
• 24:50
  first
• 24:51
  daughter
• 24:51
  and
• 24:51
  her
• 24:52
  second
• 24:52
  daughter.
• 24:53
  Whoa.
• 24:54
  But
• 24:54
  there's
• 24:55
  still
• 24:55
  that.
• 24:55
  Oh,
• 24:56
  it
• 24:56
  doesn't.
• 24:57
  It
• 24:57
  won't
• 24:58
  go
• 24:58
  away.
• 24:59
  Yeah.
• 24:59
  And
• 24:59
  as
• 25:00
  they
• 25:00
  get
• 25:00
  older,
• 25:00
  guess
• 25:01
  what?
• 25:01
  When
• 25:01
  my
• 25:02
  oldest
• 25:02
  granddaughter
• 25:03
  turned
• 25:03
  12
• 25:04
  and
• 25:04
  she
• 25:04
  could
• 25:04
  babysit,
• 25:05
  the
• 25:05
  parents
• 25:06
  had
• 25:06
  a
• 25:06
  built
• 25:06
  in
• 25:07
  babysitter,
• 25:07
  of
• 25:08
  course.
• 25:08
  Yeah.
• 25:09
  Yeah.
• 25:10
  So
• 25:10
  that
• 25:10
  creates
• 25:10
  the
• 25:11
  same
• 25:11
  dynamic,
• 25:12
  just
• 25:12
  a
• 25:12
  little
• 25:13
  different.
• 25:13
  It's
• 25:14
  same,
• 25:15
  but
• 25:15
  different.
• 25:16
  Have
• 25:16
  you
• 25:16
  thought
• 25:17
  about
• 25:17
  a
• 25:17
  second
• 25:17
  book?
• 25:18
  What's
• 25:19
  Going
• 25:19
  on.
• 25:20
  Now
• 25:20
  that
• 25:20
  you've
• 25:20
  had
• 25:21
  your
• 25:21
  book
• 25:21
  out
• 25:21
  for
• 25:22
  just
• 25:22
  over
• 25:22
  a
• 25:23
  year,
• 25:23
  what's
• 25:24
  your
• 25:24
  thought
• 25:24
  process
• 25:25
  about
• 25:26
  writing?
• 25:26
  Have
• 25:27
  you
• 25:27
  written
• 25:27
  any
• 25:28
  other
• 25:28
  stories?
• 25:29
  Because
• 25:29
  you
• 25:29
  said
• 25:29
  you're
• 25:30
  a
• 25:30
  storyteller.
• 25:31
  Yeah,
• 25:31
  I
• 25:31
  like
• 25:32
  to
• 25:32
  tell
• 25:32
  the
• 25:32
  story,
• 25:33
  not
• 25:33
  worry
• 25:34
  about
• 25:34
  getting
• 25:34
  a
• 25:35
  page
• 25:35
  and
• 25:35
  they're
• 25:36
  drawing
• 25:36
  and.
• 25:37
  Yeah,
• 25:37
  I
• 25:37
  just.
• 25:37
  And
• 25:38
  the
• 25:38
  people
• 25:38
  who
• 25:38
  listen
• 25:39
  create
• 25:40
  their
• 25:40
  own
• 25:40
  images
• 25:41
  and
• 25:42
  get
• 25:42
  whatever.
• 25:43
  Yes,
• 25:44
  absolutely.
• 25:45
  That's
• 25:45
  amazing.
• 25:46
  So
• 25:47
  have
• 25:47
  you
• 25:47
  recorded
• 25:48
  any
• 25:48
  stories
• 25:49
  or
• 25:49
  have
• 25:49
  you
• 25:50
  captured
• 25:51
  them?
• 25:51
  I'm
• 25:52
  not
• 25:52
  doing.
• 25:52
  I
• 25:53
  like
• 25:53
  live
• 25:54
  storytelling.
• 25:55
  Yeah.
• 25:56
  When
• 25:56
  the
• 25:56
  time
• 25:56
  comes,
• 25:57
  another
• 25:57
  one
• 25:58
  will
• 25:58
  flow.
• 25:59
  Yeah.
• 25:59
  I
• 25:59
  want
• 26:00
  to
• 26:00
  talk
• 26:00
  to
• 26:00
  you
• 26:00
  about
• 26:00
  success
• 26:01
  of
• 26:02
  your
• 26:02
  book.
• 26:02
  And
• 26:03
  what
• 26:03
  I
• 26:03
  mean
• 26:04
  by
• 26:04
  that
• 26:04
  is
• 26:05
  when
• 26:06
  you
• 26:07
  got
• 26:07
  close
• 26:07
  to
• 26:08
  publishing
• 26:08
  your
• 26:08
  book,
• 26:09
  what
• 26:10
  kind
• 26:10
  of
• 26:10
  success,
• 26:11
  thinking
• 26:11
  about
• 26:11
  as
• 26:12
  in
• 26:12
  terms
• 26:12
  of.
• 26:13
  Of
• 26:13
  success
• 26:13
  for
• 26:13
  your
• 26:14
  book,
• 26:14
  what
• 26:14
  did
• 26:14
  you
• 26:14
  have
• 26:15
  in
• 26:15
  mind?
• 26:15
  And
• 26:16
  what
• 26:16
  happened
• 26:17
  when
• 26:18
  the
• 26:18
  book
• 26:18
  actually
• 26:18
  came
• 26:19
  to
• 26:19
  market?
• 26:20
  Then
• 26:20
  I
• 26:20
  realized
• 26:21
  it
• 26:21
  had
• 26:21
  to
• 26:22
  fall
• 26:22
  into
• 26:23
  the
• 26:23
  hands
• 26:23
  of
• 26:24
  those
• 26:25
  pregnant
• 26:25
  people.
• 26:26
  And
• 26:26
  so
• 26:26
  it
• 26:27
  wasn't
• 26:27
  for
• 26:27
  everybody.
• 26:28
  And
• 26:29
  it
• 26:29
  might
• 26:29
  have
• 26:29
  been
• 26:30
  for.
• 26:30
  If
• 26:30
  there
• 26:31
  are
• 26:31
  kids
• 26:31
  in
• 26:31
  the
• 26:32
  family,
• 26:32
  two
• 26:32
  or
• 26:33
  three
• 26:33
  in
• 26:33
  this
• 26:34
  sort
• 26:34
  of
• 26:34
  sibling
• 26:34
  rival,
• 26:35
  the
• 26:36
  same
• 26:36
  feelings
• 26:36
  backed
• 26:37
  him
• 26:37
  up
• 26:38
  for
• 26:38
  the
• 26:38
  child
• 26:39
  having
• 26:39
  the
• 26:39
  book
• 26:40
  read.
• 26:40
  It's
• 26:40
  a
• 26:41
  certain
• 26:41
  niche.
• 26:42
  And
• 26:42
  I
• 26:43
  could
• 26:43
  have
• 26:43
  gone
• 26:44
  on
• 26:44
  to
• 26:45
  pursue
• 26:45
  that
• 26:45
  niche,
• 26:46
  going
• 26:47
  to
• 26:47
  classes
• 26:48
  where
• 26:48
  these
• 26:48
  people
• 26:49
  are
• 26:49
  going
• 26:50
  and
• 26:50
  telling
• 26:51
  them
• 26:51
  they
• 26:51
  need
• 26:52
  the
• 26:52
  book.
• 26:52
  But
• 26:52
  I
• 26:53
  never
• 26:53
  thought
• 26:53
  about,
• 26:53
  like,
• 26:54
  prenatal
• 26:54
  for
• 26:55
  the
• 26:55
  second
• 26:55
  book.
• 26:55
  Yeah,
• 26:55
  exactly.
• 26:57
  So
• 26:57
  anyhow,
• 26:58
  I
• 26:58
  haven't
• 26:58
  pursued
• 26:59
  that
• 26:59
  part
• 26:59
  of
• 26:59
  that.
• 27:00
  But
• 27:00
  I
• 27:00
  haven't
• 27:00
  thought
• 27:01
  of
• 27:01
  just
• 27:01
  putting
• 27:02
  a
• 27:02
  couple
• 27:02
  of
• 27:02
  books
• 27:03
  in
• 27:03
  my
• 27:03
  bag
• 27:04
  when
• 27:04
  I'm
• 27:04
  going
• 27:05
  anywhere.
• 27:05
  And
• 27:05
  if
• 27:06
  I
• 27:06
  see
• 27:06
  a
• 27:06
  pregnant
• 27:07
  mother
• 27:07
  with
• 27:07
  a
• 27:08
  toddler,
• 27:08
  I
• 27:09
  would
• 27:09
  just
• 27:09
  get
• 27:09
  a
• 27:10
  book
• 27:10
  and
• 27:10
  I'm
• 27:11
  probably
• 27:11
  going
• 27:11
  to
• 27:11
  do
• 27:11
  that.
• 27:12
  That's
• 27:12
  a
• 27:13
  great
• 27:13
  idea.
• 27:14
  When
• 27:14
  you
• 27:14
  talk
• 27:15
  to
• 27:15
  other
• 27:15
  adults
• 27:16
  and
• 27:17
  do
• 27:17
  you
• 27:17
  get
• 27:18
  people
• 27:18
  saying,
• 27:19
  oh,
• 27:19
  I
• 27:19
  can
• 27:20
  see
• 27:20
  myself
• 27:20
  in
• 27:21
  that.
• 27:21
  Just
• 27:21
  like
• 27:21
  I've
• 27:21
  said,
• 27:22
  I
• 27:22
  see
• 27:22
  myself
• 27:23
  in
• 27:23
  your
• 27:23
  book.
• 27:23
  Do
• 27:24
  you
• 27:24
  get
• 27:24
  a
• 27:24
  lot
• 27:24
  of
• 27:24
  that?
• 27:24
  Some
• 27:25
  people
• 27:25
  have
• 27:25
  swamped.
• 27:27
  Given
• 27:27
  them
• 27:27
  as
• 27:28
  gifts
• 27:28
  to
• 27:28
  people
• 27:29
  who
• 27:29
  they
• 27:30
  feel
• 27:30
  that's
• 27:31
  a
• 27:31
  good
• 27:31
  gift
• 27:31
  to
• 27:32
  get.
• 27:32
  Yes,
• 27:33
  because
• 27:33
  I.
• 27:33
  I've
• 27:33
  talked
• 27:34
  to
• 27:34
  several
• 27:35
  children's
• 27:35
  book
• 27:35
  authors
• 27:36
  now,
• 27:36
  and
• 27:37
  a
• 27:37
  lot
• 27:37
  of
• 27:37
  them
• 27:37
  say
• 27:38
  when
• 27:38
  they
• 27:38
  do
• 27:38
  a
• 27:38
  book
• 27:39
  reading
• 27:39
  or
• 27:39
  go
• 27:39
  to
• 27:40
  a.
• 27:40
  A
• 27:40
  book
• 27:40
  event,
• 27:41
  a
• 27:41
  lot
• 27:41
  of
• 27:41
  times
• 27:42
  they're
• 27:42
  finding
• 27:42
  adults
• 27:43
  are
• 27:43
  purchasing
• 27:44
  their
• 27:44
  children's
• 27:44
  book
• 27:45
  and
• 27:45
  they'll
• 27:45
  ask
• 27:46
  the
• 27:46
  question,
• 27:46
  why
• 27:46
  are
• 27:47
  you
• 27:47
  purchasing
• 27:48
  my
• 27:48
  children's
• 27:48
  book?
• 27:49
  Are
• 27:49
  you
• 27:49
  purchasing
• 27:50
  it
• 27:50
  for
• 27:50
  your
• 27:50
  children
• 27:51
  or
• 27:51
  grandchildren?
• 27:52
  And
• 27:52
  they
• 27:52
  said,
• 27:52
  no,
• 27:53
  actually,
• 27:53
  I'm
• 27:53
  purchasing
• 27:54
  it
• 27:54
  for
• 27:54
  myself
• 27:55
  because
• 27:55
  I
• 27:55
  can
• 27:56
  see
• 27:56
  myself
• 27:56
  as
• 27:56
  a
• 27:57
  young
• 27:57
  child
• 27:58
  in
• 27:58
  your
• 27:58
  book.
• 27:59
  Lovely.
• 28:00
  Yeah.
• 28:00
  Yeah.
• 28:01
  So
• 28:01
  that's
• 28:01
  always
• 28:01
  nice.
• 28:02
  Have
• 28:02
  you
• 28:02
  ever
• 28:02
  had
• 28:02
  that
• 28:03
  happen
• 28:03
  to
• 28:03
  you?
• 28:04
  No,
• 28:04
  I'd
• 28:04
  never
• 28:05
  gone
• 28:05
  to
• 28:05
  the
• 28:05
  senior's
• 28:06
  residence.
• 28:07
  Aspiring
• 28:08
  authors.
• 28:08
  I'm
• 28:09
  curious.
• 28:09
  So
• 28:10
  as
• 28:10
  a
• 28:11
  children's
• 28:12
  book
• 28:12
  author,
• 28:13
  what
• 28:13
  advice
• 28:13
  would
• 28:14
  you
• 28:14
  give
• 28:14
  someone
• 28:14
  who's
• 28:15
  thinking,
• 28:16
  I
• 28:16
  just
• 28:16
  don't
• 28:17
  know
• 28:17
  how
• 28:17
  to
• 28:17
  get
• 28:17
  started,
• 28:18
  or
• 28:18
  how
• 28:19
  do
• 28:19
  I
• 28:19
  become
• 28:19
  a
• 28:20
  children's
• 28:20
  book
• 28:20
  author?
• 28:20
  What
• 28:21
  kind
• 28:21
  of
• 28:21
  advice
• 28:22
  would
• 28:22
  you
• 28:22
  give
• 28:22
  them?
• 28:23
  What
• 28:23
  I
• 28:23
  did,
• 28:24
  because
• 28:24
  I
• 28:25
  didn't
• 28:25
  really
• 28:25
  know
• 28:26
  anything
• 28:27
  about
• 28:27
  writing
• 28:28
  a
• 28:28
  book,
• 28:28
  and
• 28:28
  mine
• 28:29
  was
• 28:29
  so
• 28:29
  specific.
• 28:31
  I
• 28:31
  got
• 28:31
  online
• 28:32
  and
• 28:33
  I
• 28:33
  found
• 28:33
  a
• 28:34
  group
• 28:34
  that
• 28:35
  does
• 28:36
  a
• 28:36
  whole
• 28:36
  day
• 28:38
  teaching,
• 28:39
  and
• 28:40
  you
• 28:40
  have
• 28:41
  to
• 28:41
  buy
• 28:41
  it
• 28:42
  and
• 28:42
  you
• 28:42
  have
• 28:42
  to
• 28:43
  be
• 28:43
  free
• 28:43
  that
• 28:44
  day
• 28:44
  to
• 28:45
  listen
• 28:45
  to
• 28:46
  about
• 28:46
  four
• 28:47
  very
• 28:47
  good
• 28:48
  lectures.
• 28:49
  Authors
• 28:50
  that
• 28:50
  have
• 28:50
  written
• 28:51
  and
• 28:51
  not
• 28:52
  authors,
• 28:53
  but
• 28:53
  publishers
• 28:54
  and
• 28:55
  people
• 28:55
  that
• 28:56
  help
• 28:56
  publish
• 28:57
  the
• 28:57
  book.
• 28:57
  So
• 28:58
  I
• 28:58
  did
• 28:58
  that.
• 28:59
  I
• 28:59
  learned
• 28:59
  a
• 29:00
  lot,
• 29:00
  and
• 29:01
  I
• 29:01
  learned
• 29:01
  about
• 29:02
  how
• 29:02
  to
• 29:03
  do
• 29:03
  it
• 29:03
  and
• 29:03
  how
• 29:03
  I
• 29:04
  might
• 29:04
  do
• 29:04
  it.
• 29:04
  So
• 29:05
  it
• 29:05
  was
• 29:05
  a
• 29:05
  good
• 29:05
  stepping
• 29:06
  stone.
• 29:07
  And
• 29:07
  I
• 29:07
  would
• 29:07
  go
• 29:07
  back
• 29:08
  to
• 29:08
  that
• 29:09
  to
• 29:10
  do
• 29:10
  that
• 29:10
  if
• 29:11
  I
• 29:11
  were
• 29:11
  going
• 29:11
  to
• 29:12
  do
• 29:12
  another
• 29:12
  book.
• 29:12
  Because
• 29:13
  they
• 29:13
  walk
• 29:13
  you
• 29:14
  through
• 29:14
  the
• 29:15
  things
• 29:15
  that.
• 29:15
  Through
• 29:16
  each
• 29:16
  step,
• 29:16
  first
• 29:17
  of
• 29:17
  all,
• 29:17
  even.
• 29:17
  The
• 29:18
  beginning,
• 29:18
  you
• 29:19
  do
• 29:19
  have
• 29:19
  to
• 29:19
  have
• 29:20
  a
• 29:20
  beginning
• 29:20
  and
• 29:21
  a
• 29:21
  very
• 29:21
  good
• 29:21
  middle
• 29:23
  to
• 29:23
  have
• 29:23
  a
• 29:23
  good
• 29:23
  end.
• 29:24
  And
• 29:24
  you've
• 29:24
  only
• 29:24
  got
• 29:25
  between
• 29:25
  500
• 29:26
  and
• 29:26
  1000
• 29:26
  words
• 29:27
  to
• 29:27
  do
• 29:27
  it.
• 29:27
  Yeah,
• 29:28
  yeah.
• 29:28
  And
• 29:28
  you
• 29:28
  have
• 29:29
  very
• 29:29
  few
• 29:29
  words
• 29:30
  to
• 29:30
  do
• 29:30
  it.
• 29:31
  So
• 29:32
  you
• 29:32
  learn
• 29:32
  the
• 29:32
  whole
• 29:33
  thing.
• 29:33
  And
• 29:33
  learn
• 29:34
  to
• 29:34
  read
• 29:34
  books
• 29:35
  that
• 29:35
  do
• 29:36
  that.
• 29:36
  Well,
• 29:37
  you
• 29:37
  see
• 29:37
  it.
• 29:38
  Did
• 29:38
  you
• 29:38
  do
• 29:39
  much
• 29:39
  reading
• 29:40
  of
• 29:40
  children's
• 29:41
  books
• 29:41
  before
• 29:42
  you
• 29:42
  brought
• 29:42
  yours
• 29:42
  to
• 29:43
  market?
• 29:44
  Oh,
• 29:44
  yes.
• 29:44
  And
• 29:45
  then
• 29:45
  being
• 29:46
  storytelling.
• 29:48
  Doing
• 29:48
  their
• 29:49
  storytelling
• 29:51
  at
• 29:51
  the
• 29:51
  why
• 29:52
  and
• 29:53
  having
• 29:53
  my
• 29:53
  own
• 29:54
  children.
• 29:55
  So
• 29:56
  it
• 29:56
  was
• 29:56
  nice
• 29:56
  to
• 29:57
  have
• 29:57
  that
• 29:57
  background.
• 29:58
  Yeah.
• 29:59
  Encouragement
• 30:00
  for
• 30:00
  readers.
• 30:01
  Why
• 30:02
  should
• 30:03
  children's
• 30:03
  book
• 30:03
  readers
• 30:04
  purchase
• 30:04
  your
• 30:05
  book?
• 30:06
  My
• 30:06
  book?
• 30:07
  Yes.
• 30:08
  Because
• 30:08
  maybe
• 30:09
  they
• 30:09
  want
• 30:09
  to
• 30:10
  be
• 30:10
  pregnant
• 30:12
  if
• 30:13
  they
• 30:13
  already
• 30:13
  have
• 30:14
  a
• 30:14
  child.
• 30:14
  And
• 30:14
  how
• 30:15
  it's
• 30:15
  meaningful.
• 30:16
  But
• 30:16
  as
• 30:16
  you
• 30:17
  say,
• 30:17
  for
• 30:17
  people
• 30:17
  that
• 30:18
  might
• 30:18
  have
• 30:18
  memories
• 30:19
  of
• 30:19
  their
• 30:19
  own
• 30:21
  child,
• 30:21
  that's
• 30:21
  why
• 30:22
  I
• 30:22
  think
• 30:22
  her
• 30:22
  drawings
• 30:23
  are
• 30:23
  so
• 30:23
  well
• 30:24
  done.
• 30:24
  She's
• 30:25
  got
• 30:25
  a
• 30:25
  lot
• 30:25
  of
• 30:25
  people
• 30:26
  in
• 30:26
  it.
• 30:27
  And
• 30:28
  it's
• 30:28
  definitely
• 30:29
  a
• 30:29
  lot
• 30:29
  of
• 30:29
  fun,
• 30:29
  like
• 30:30
  I
• 30:30
  said,
• 30:30
  because
• 30:30
  I'm
• 30:31
  a
• 30:31
  big
• 30:31
  brother.
• 30:31
  I
• 30:31
  love
• 30:32
  the
• 30:32
  concept,
• 30:32
  the
• 30:33
  whole
• 30:33
  concept.
• 30:33
  And
• 30:34
  I
• 30:35
  was
• 30:35
  thinking,
• 30:35
  what
• 30:35
  is
• 30:36
  that?
• 30:36
  What's
• 30:36
  the
• 30:36
  superpower
• 30:37
  that
• 30:37
  I
• 30:38
  have
• 30:39
  now?
• 30:39
  The
• 30:39
  two.
• 30:41
  Well,
• 30:41
  they
• 30:41
  all
• 30:42
  have,
• 30:42
  actually.
• 30:44
  No
• 30:44
  question.
• 30:45
  Your
• 30:45
  book
• 30:45
  is
• 30:46
  available
• 30:47
  through
• 30:47
  Amazon.
• 30:49
  And
• 30:50
  did
• 30:50
  you
• 30:50
  also
• 30:50
  have
• 30:51
  it
• 30:51
  published
• 30:52
  through
• 30:52
  Ingram
• 30:52
  Sparks?
• 30:54
  Yes,
• 30:54
  it
• 30:54
  did.
• 30:55
  Okay.
• 30:55
  So
• 30:56
  it's
• 30:56
  virtually
• 30:57
  available
• 30:57
  anywhere
• 30:58
  that
• 30:58
  online.
• 31:00
  Online
• 31:00
  books
• 31:00
  are
• 31:00
  sold.
• 31:01
  Yeah.
• 31:02
  Great.
• 31:02
  You're
• 31:03
  a
• 31:03
  true
• 31:03
  inspiration
• 31:04
  for
• 31:05
  me.
• 31:06
  No,
• 31:06
  seriously.
• 31:07
  You
• 31:07
  know
• 31:07
  what?
• 31:07
  I
• 31:07
  have
• 31:08
  this
• 31:08
  goal
• 31:09
  is
• 31:09
  to
• 31:09
  live
• 31:09
  a
• 31:10
  long
• 31:10
  life.
• 31:10
  It's
• 31:10
  because
• 31:11
  I
• 31:11
  always
• 31:11
  say,
• 31:12
  if
• 31:12
  you
• 31:12
  want
• 31:13
  to
• 31:13
  live
• 31:13
  a
• 31:13
  long
• 31:13
  life,
• 31:14
  and
• 31:14
  maybe
• 31:14
  you
• 31:14
  can
• 31:14
  verify
• 31:15
  this
• 31:15
  an
• 31:16
  I
• 31:16
  say
• 31:17
  get
• 31:17
  younger
• 31:17
  friends.
• 31:18
  That
• 31:19
  helps,
• 31:19
  too.
• 31:20
  Yes,
• 31:21
  I
• 31:21
  know.
• 31:22
  With
• 31:22
  my
• 31:22
  grandchildren,
• 31:23
  I've
• 31:23
  taught
• 31:23
  them
• 31:24
  all
• 31:24
  how
• 31:24
  to
• 31:24
  ski
• 31:25
  and
• 31:25
  we
• 31:25
  still
• 31:25
  hang
• 31:26
  out.
• 31:26
  It's
• 31:26
  nice.
• 31:27
  And
• 31:28
  they're
• 31:28
  much
• 31:28
  younger
• 31:29
  than
• 31:29
  me,
• 31:29
  so
• 31:30
  that's
• 31:30
  part
• 31:30
  of
• 31:30
  my
• 31:31
  secret.
• 31:31
  Yeah,
• 31:32
  no,
• 31:34
  it's
• 31:34
  the
• 31:35
  same.
• 31:35
  I
• 31:36
  think
• 31:36
  it's
• 31:37
  not
• 31:37
  a
• 31:38
  hardship
• 31:38
  to
• 31:38
  age.
• 31:39
  It's
• 31:39
  just
• 31:40
  living
• 31:40
  your
• 31:40
  life
• 31:41
  well
• 31:42
  and
• 31:42
  being
• 31:43
  with
• 31:43
  your
• 31:43
  grandchildren,
• 31:44
  with
• 31:44
  your
• 31:44
  family.
• 31:45
  And
• 31:45
  makes
• 31:46
  a
• 31:46
  big
• 31:46
  difference.
• 31:46
  And
• 31:47
  it's
• 31:47
  nice
• 31:47
  that
• 31:47
  you're
• 31:48
  still
• 31:48
  getting
• 31:48
  inspiration
• 31:49
  from
• 31:50
  your
• 31:50
  great
• 31:50
  grandchildren.
• 31:51
  Yeah.
• 31:52
  Yeah,
• 31:53
  I
• 31:53
  am.
• 31:53
  Thank
• 31:53
  you
• 31:54
  so
• 31:54
  much
• 31:54
  for
• 31:54
  being
• 31:54
  a
• 31:54
  guest
• 31:55
  on
• 31:55
  the
• 31:55
  Adventures
• 31:56
  in
• 31:56
  the
• 31:56
  Heart
• 31:56
  of
• 31:56
  Children's
• 31:57
  Book
• 31:57
  Authors
• 31:58
  Podcast.
• 31:58
  Your
• 31:59
  generosity
• 31:59
  of
• 31:59
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• 32:00
  your
• 32:00
  insights
• 32:01
  will
• 32:01
  definitely
• 32:02
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• 32:03
  aspiring
• 32:03
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• 32:04
  and
• 32:05
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• 32:07
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• 32:08
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• 32:08
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• 32:09
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• 32:09
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• 32:10
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• 32:24
  Ann
• 32:24
  and
• 32:25
  her
• 32:25
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• 32:25
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• 32:27
  I
• 32:27
  am
• 32:27
  a
• 32:27
  big
• 32:27
  brother
• 32:28
  with
• 32:28
  a
• 32:29
  superpower.
• 32:31
  Thank
• 32:31
  you,
• 32:31
  Ann.
• 32:31
  We
• 32:32
  all
• 32:32
  have
• 32:32
  to
• 32:32
  remember
• 32:33
  we
• 32:33
  have
• 32:33
  that
• 32:33
  superpower,
• 32:35
  no
• 32:35
  question.