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EP183 - Friday The 13th Part III (Thirsty For Gore) · Thirsty For More - Movie Review

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  Speaker 1: The move thinking something was coming.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay, check check.
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  Speaker 1: Check shame, I'm not okay.
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  Speaker 2: Hello everyone, Hello, if you want to welcome to Thirsty
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  Speaker 2: for Gore. Of course I'm your host. Nice to meet you, dude.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Halloween.
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  Speaker 2: One man will change everything. I'm feeling Halloween, Dude, I'm
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  Speaker 2: feeling Halloween. And you know what else I'm feeling, dude,
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  Speaker 2: I'm feeling thirsty for more. I'm feeling thirsty for Jason
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  Speaker 2: in a way that only Part three Jason three D
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  Speaker 2: could satisfy. Dude.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Jason three D is pretty awesome.
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  Speaker 2: All of the.
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  Speaker 1: Overt three D in it was hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: I love I loved it every second of it. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: every second of dick.
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  Speaker 1: Fucking rakes and shovels and rods.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I have so much to say about this one.
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  Speaker 2: I have so much to say, But first off, I
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  Speaker 2: want to start with, dude, so much Sigma energy in
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  Speaker 2: this but also and also Alpha energy.
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  Speaker 1: The Yeah, totally Sigma Jason at the beginning and Alpha
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  Speaker 1: at the end. Shaved head dick like Jason, very virile Jason.
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  Speaker 2: In this one DA comment, she was like you know,
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  Speaker 2: I know he's got these like he's supposed to have
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  Speaker 2: these deformities and stuff, but the body is correct.
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  Speaker 1: The body is correct.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And in classic Jason part one, part two fashion, we
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  Speaker 1: start with fifteen minutes of the previous.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, I love I loved it. That's become a trope
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  Speaker 2: now because it kind of like continues directly continues the law.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah totally, And it feels like repeating some of the
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  Speaker 1: body stuff from the previous ones building up to zombie
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  Speaker 1: Jason is pretty exciting.
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  Speaker 2: And we do we do get some law in this one,
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  Speaker 2: even though it's it's slight lore.
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  Speaker 1: The dragging away the like periphery of Jason, and this
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  Speaker 1: one is actually kind of nice.
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  Speaker 2: We get but we get expanded ship though, because Jason
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  Speaker 2: shows reveals his face at the end. Also, yeah, all
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  Speaker 2: the show because he knows her, he remembers her.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally totally.
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  Speaker 2: So we never had that before.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah totally. There was never a Jason where he's like
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  Speaker 1: he knew a thing.
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  Speaker 2: But this the music in this one is so good.
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  Speaker 3: It's so good.
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  Speaker 2: This one also brings in the the faster, scary, scary, spooky.
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  Speaker 1: It is a very spooky, spooky.
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  Speaker 2: Sound, dude. This one's so fun in such a Halloween way.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I'm getting into the Halloween spirit. Today
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  Speaker 2: is like a very overcast, rainy day. It looks like
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  Speaker 2: October outside.
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  Speaker 1: Also, this guy, Paul Kratka was like Paul short, dude,
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  Speaker 1: who is that?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's.
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  Speaker 4: Uh because we got to talk about all the amazing Chadsick.
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  Speaker 1: He's the like Alurchy boyfriend dude.
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  Speaker 2: He was like, he was my favorite guys feel the
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  Speaker 2: entire time. He was being so very lurch very but
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  Speaker 2: and then shirtless dude and Jacks like just shredded looks
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  Speaker 2: like Brad Pitt shredded.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, totally And what's his name? Uh? Man, Chuck.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, my favorite guy and someone who's very
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  Speaker 2: important to the lore that we're going to talk about today,
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  Speaker 2: but is Shelley, dude. And not only that, speaking of chads,
• 4:46
  Speaker 2: you have to have the Alexes to the Chads. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm joking, you have to have the you have you
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  Speaker 2: have to have the like beta to the alpha. And
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  Speaker 2: this guy, the way they coated him as like just
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  Speaker 2: like total in cell like this movie is playing out
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  Speaker 2: in cell tropes.
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  Speaker 1: Totally. Do you want to do it through.
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  Speaker 2: We have to we have to go in order.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go, because immediately we're we're met with a
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  Speaker 1: husband and wife couple listening to the news about Friday
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  Speaker 1: the thirteenth, the night before or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: How could I forget the meniarc of Harold?
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  Speaker 1: Harold? Yeah, is it Harold?
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  Speaker 2: And what was her name? Was it?
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  Speaker 1: Debbie? Was Debbie?
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  Speaker 2: They tried to make her like homely, but she was
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  Speaker 2: just so yeah, totally, and I loved it, Harold.
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  Speaker 1: She was hot in that kind of pearl kind of
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  Speaker 1: way where it's like a little bit like.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to say me, yeah, you gave me. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's definitely a borderline. I've been dramatized. The personality.
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  Speaker 2: It's definitely very and it's like Pearl, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: and then and then she's gotta be some bum pussy
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  Speaker 2: pearl I mean true. Yeah. Yeah, So Harold love the
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  Speaker 2: snack he's snacking on something in every scene, including like
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  Speaker 2: the like food, dude. I love the like little subtle details.
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  Speaker 2: It added so much care and giving so much character
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  Speaker 2: and pathos to this like opening cold open couple.
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  Speaker 1: Where this dude is like he sees the bunny and
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  Speaker 1: the the food in his like shop, and he's like,
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  Speaker 1: oh no, don't eat that. But also I'm gonna care
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  Speaker 1: for you, and he's so gentle and wants to hold
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  Speaker 1: the rabbit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. But it's interesting because this movie is I was
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  Speaker 2: thinking so much about this. It is about like the
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  Speaker 2: brutality of masculine like because like you had this guy Jason,
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  Speaker 2: who's like the whole movie is about fucking and like
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  Speaker 2: everybody wants to fuck all the time. Yeah, which is great,
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  Speaker 2: And the movie doesn't judge the sexuality at all ever
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  Speaker 2: in any of this series so far. But where it
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  Speaker 2: it starts commenting on things is indirectly because.
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  Speaker 1: In the indirect way that they're referencing the other scenes
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  Speaker 1: where Jason is having diarrhea and this guy is having
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  Speaker 1: diarrhea as well. It's like, first of all, there's I'm
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  Speaker 1: sorry I interrupted, but there's so much eating or smoking
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  Speaker 1: and bathrooms in this movie that I'm like, you're in
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  Speaker 1: an outhouse, dude, You're to light a joint in an outhouse,
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  Speaker 1: but you drink whiskey in a in a fucking gr
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  Speaker 1: like this is all these.
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  Speaker 2: Bathrooms, jo, I might Yeah, I would.
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  Speaker 1: Not want to breathe in the pooh smell with my
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  Speaker 1: do you do you remember when when you'd wake up
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  Speaker 1: and you'd use the same bathroom as Tatta and you
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  Speaker 1: wake up ship like that, you'd smell the soap combined
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  Speaker 1: with the ship smell.
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  Speaker 2: Due it was as if like the particles had fus
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  Speaker 2: so and the thickness in the air of like the
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  Speaker 2: hottest shower. I thought they just took like a scorger.
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  Speaker 3: So that just.
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  Speaker 2: Scorched his asshole totally combined the soap in the air
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  Speaker 2: with it. It was like the most thick somehow shit smell. Ever, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that my ship has ever smelled. I
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  Speaker 2: know I'm not just my ship don't stink, but like
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  Speaker 2: my shit stink.
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  Speaker 1: But not like that, No, not like this, not like this,
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  Speaker 1: just because like I want to get into Shelley and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to if we want to go see
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  Speaker 1: by scene, i'd probably let's let's do it like this.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, sure, But I do want to like explore the
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  Speaker 2: kind of masculinity sort of thing that I that I
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  Speaker 2: this like sort of theory that I have. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like there's like a really interesting like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we'll get to it.
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  Speaker 1: So Harold gets axed by Jason. Obviously it's just no.
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  Speaker 2: And some of you may not know me at all,
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  Speaker 2: but right now.
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  Speaker 4: They think just because you're doing that that you've made it,
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  Speaker 4: and it's like, no, that's not at all, Like this
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  Speaker 4: is the beginning of the road, you know, Like we
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  Speaker 4: just walked out the front door.
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  Speaker 2: It's just Jison.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, his wife comes out. She's very terrified, and she
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  Speaker 1: also gets fucking stabbed in the neck by Jason. First
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  Speaker 1: she's scared by a mouse, and then Jason grabs her
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  Speaker 1: by the face and stabs her through the throat. The
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  Speaker 1: deaths in this one are definitely.
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  Speaker 2: Like iconic, iconic, like like incredible and like not not overstated,
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  Speaker 2: like cool, but in a way that I feel like
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  Speaker 2: just Sison would do it, you know, likeson now that
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  Speaker 2: he's still alive, Jason, I think he's just Jason. But dude,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, I'm really excited. You know why because
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  Speaker 2: it's Friday. Yeah, it's Friday. Friday. Gotta get down on Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody'king forward to the week?
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: Can we and the baseball bat that's immediately in front
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  Speaker 1: of the camera to be as three D as possible?
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  Speaker 1: Every scene that has some three D has to stay
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  Speaker 1: on the thing for so long and it's amazing. But
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  Speaker 1: Chris is our main character, Yeah, who comes in with
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  Speaker 1: two horny teens after she's like.
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  Speaker 2: But she's like immediately implied like a darkness to her life. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: something bad happened something.
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  Speaker 1: And also, but what's interesting too about the like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you know a little bit of prudishness is that it's
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  Speaker 1: not like prudishness in the like I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: have sex, but it's like, oh no, I don't, like
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  Speaker 1: somebody tried to bless me. Yeah, like and I'm post
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  Speaker 1: traumatically stressed. I'm like, what's it called combat shocked?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, So like she she fully has that, and
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  Speaker 2: that's why she doesn't want to Like that's why she's
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  Speaker 2: given our boy, uh, Chad, she's giving them blue balls
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  Speaker 2: and he's like, I don't know, man, cold showers I
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  Speaker 2: can do. We're not We're not there yet. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: She's she's with the friends now, right.
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  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, she's with her friends. They're going to sort
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  Speaker 1: of pick up who Shelley is gonna be digging up with,
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  Speaker 1: hooking up with whatever.
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  Speaker 2: And this is our first like person of color in
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  Speaker 2: this in this series at all, it seems like, right, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think so. The bike, oh, the oh, the lady, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because she's like supposed to be like she's talking Spanish
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  Speaker 2: with her mom, like her mom is maybe from Mexico
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  Speaker 2: or South America. So like the kind of first character
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  Speaker 2: that isn't white and dies first. No, she doesn't die first,
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  Speaker 2: but the definitely a character of color dies first, which
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  Speaker 2: we'll talk about.
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  Speaker 1: And then we get Cheech and Chong, which was such
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: a hilarious relationship because they barely talk in the movie,
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: but they seem to have so much dimension. They're just
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  Speaker 1: like Stoner's.
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  Speaker 2: That are just like, yeah, oh no, the van's on
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  Speaker 2: fire and they run over to the van and it's
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  Speaker 2: just them really hot boxing it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's then the past seventy joint Richard passing
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  Speaker 1: the joint to the camera. But also's hilarious about all
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: of the three D is that because they had to
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: do all of the three D pointed to the camera,
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: anytime it would cut to whatever was grabbing the camera,
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: it would the eyeline would be different because you're showing,
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  Speaker 1: you're showing, you know, you're showing the thing that you
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  Speaker 1: want to show. In three d but then the person
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: who's grabbing whatever is like higher or lower than the thing.
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  Speaker 2: It's impossible to actually like say it wasn't that bad
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  Speaker 2: though it was fun.
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  Speaker 1: It was still like it was just a like cute
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  Speaker 1: thing that I noticed where it was just like everything
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  Speaker 1: looks a little off because of it. But then the
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  Speaker 1: cops are like driving and they're like, oh no, we want.
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  Speaker 2: To eat the weed, and they start eating the weed
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: and they drive by and in a real Super Troopers
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  Speaker 2: kind of way, it's not for them, they were just
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  Speaker 2: driving by because there's been a murder. I love how
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: everything was like connected story wise. Everything had like a
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  Speaker 2: logical conclusion, like something would happen and then and then
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: because of that, there'd be a consequence later. It was
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: very opposite of what you were saying about Tulsa King
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  Speaker 2: when we were watching it, which we won't put anymore,
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: but like it's not someone comes into a room says something,
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: and like it's something happens that has consequence in the
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  Speaker 2: next season.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, And for other characters sometimes that they don't
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  Speaker 1: know that we have the information.
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  Speaker 2: To like dramatic irony.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: Dramatic irony, we have the feeling that we're seeing something
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  Speaker 1: play out and they're like, oh, we're like, oh no
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: for them, speaking of oh no for them, the the
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  Speaker 1: new You're doomed.
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: You're all, oh, dude, Yeah, it just took the mantle
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  Speaker 2: from our boy Ralph so easily. I don't know if
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: I trust this guy, but he was pretty cool though,
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  Speaker 2: Like just like they made this guy way more like
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  Speaker 2: a vagabond. Like it's like a guy that'd be like
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  Speaker 2: hanging out in like a like like a train car
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  Speaker 2: or something like a like a forties guy. You don't
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  Speaker 2: touch him.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, thank you kind of generous. What is grace has
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  Speaker 5: brought me? What is that I found this today? There
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: were other parts of the body.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the eyeball.
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  Speaker 1: He wanted me to have this. I love that. There's
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  Speaker 1: there's been lorification of other other vagabonds in this town
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  Speaker 1: interacting with Jason in some way.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and like he became kind of like it's interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they're sort of friends or friendly or at least
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: he's not trying to murder him, because I don't think
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  Speaker 2: like Jason. I don't know now, I don't know. I'm
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  Speaker 2: wondering about Jason's motivations right, because like, is he a
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  Speaker 2: guy who is territorial and doesn't want young kids around
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  Speaker 2: his area, and it's young kids that he hates, especially
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: horny young kids, because they just remind him of like
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: how he died and also revenge for his mom. But like,
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  Speaker 2: just I don't I'm not sure about the motivations. I'm
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: not sure what he's thinking and is him killing like
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: does he kill people as in like he treats them
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: like animals in the sense of like, these are just
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: people encroaching on These are just things encroaching on my territory.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand them, they don't understand me. We're not
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  Speaker 2: the same at all. Is that what it is?
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. I'm a little bit there's a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a distance in this one from him,
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  Speaker 1: and the lack of motivation is kind of making him
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: a little bit scarier and right in fact that he's
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: more more penis now is also weirdly scary.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: He's a cool Jason. At first, I was like, I
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: don't know if I like this Jason, because he made
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: some weird body choices. What we'll talk about.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, dude, they're at instead of Crystal Lake,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: they're at Higgins Haven, which is from the second one, right,
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  Speaker 1: is that it?
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: I guess, So, I guess that's continued Laura. I'm never
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: sure about where they are, but I know they're in
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  Speaker 2: his area.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the vicinity of his gross shack.
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  Speaker 2: So I have a theory maybe because of the events
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  Speaker 2: of the previous movie, he's on high alert now that
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  Speaker 2: people are gonna be coming, and so he's expanding a
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: little bit his like territory. Yeah, he's like, it's Benny,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: the radius of like where people shouldn't be. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we get introduced to Rick, who scares Chris
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: by molesting her a little bit and being like, come on, baby.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Okay He's like immediately like and he and she He's like,
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  Speaker 2: I really I really want to fuck you. Gotta give
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  Speaker 2: it up to me right now.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how many cold showers I can take.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Whoa dude? She literally she just got there. And also
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: like she is, she did have a reaction. We don't
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: know what it is yet as an audience, but like
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: something bad happened to her, so like it's changed her
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: relationship to getting snuck up on. She also has Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and she hasn't seen this guy. He's like, oh, come on,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: we used to like hang out all the time. Now
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: I've been waiting for you. Like it's sort of like
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: seems like he's like a summer fling that they've stayed
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: in touch, and he's a little he's older in a
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: way that he shouldn't be dating someone this young, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so I think they're supposed to be
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: the same age because it's like old, they look older.
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  Speaker 2: It's just like, no, you're right, but but I thought
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: I thought it was like anyway, but he keeps like
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: implying that he could have been with someone else, and
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  Speaker 2: like he's like.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, but also he does do the thing where he
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: is like like come on, you don't even tell me anything,
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  Speaker 1: like you're you're staying away from me, and I like
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: I want to know. I want to help you. It's
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: not just like ah, I want to fuck, but it's
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: like I want to be intimate with you and like
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  Speaker 1: be more than friends or whatever, because like we we
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: were we felt good together, but now it's like weird
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: cold childery and it's like but I don't know, why
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: is it me?
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  Speaker 2: You know, well, the whole thing about like dudes just
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: not actually being able to like listen in this movie at.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: All, Well, yeah, you've got what's his name Shelley who's
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: constantly scaring people and constantly making like jokes and people
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: are like, stop stop doing that. And even people tell
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  Speaker 1: him like, I like, you stop doing that, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And but but his character is so interesting, the
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: like victimhood of the like feeling like you're a loser.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: That like is like he's always commenting, like when he
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: meets what is what is the girl's name that they
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: pick up from like the household where they're speaking Spanish?
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  Speaker 1: Vera, Yeah, Vera said that.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So like when she meets him, they're like, oh,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: this is the guy who's supposed to be my date,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: and he's like sorry, and it's kind of sad, like
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: it's like such sell energy. And then it's presumed that
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: he's like I'm an actor. He's got all these props
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: and masks. And one of the things that makes the
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: betaness of Shelley so iconic in this movie is he's
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: actually the one who provides Jason the ultimate alpha in
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: this movie, or I guess the sigma with the mask. Yeah,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: he's the strong, silent type. So he's a Sigma, but like, uh, yeah,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: he provides him with the mask. He's the the Beta
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: is the one that gives the the Sigma the cover
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: he steals from the culture of the Beta dude, of course,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: and to become the ultimate Sigma.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: And also yeah, I also really liked all the setups
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: in the in the movie too, like the setting up
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: the hay in the barn and like what's his name,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: fucking rick pulling pulling the Christal strength, Yeah, but also
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: like setting up the fact that like later on with Jason,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: what he's gonna do in the barn.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Oh and the fucking gallows with the like with the
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: like hanging of Jason, which we'll we'll get to.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. And then we get our first Shelley
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: with the axe in the head falling out of the
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: closet us like classic reference to the other ones, but
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: also like I'm just I'm just a trickster.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Yeah, and some good props
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: though nobody, nobody has any time for Shelley. I mean
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: one of the cool thing, coolest things about his prop
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: is that it has like a curl attached to it,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: like you thought of it. Just details like that are
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: so funny and cool. Uh it's so eighties. It's it's
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: very delightfully eighties. Yeah, I really like this. I really
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: like this. I thought that I thought it added to
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: like the like kind of it. Just these are the
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: first characters I've really felt any sort of like attachment. No,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: really like they also feel like they have like attachment
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: to each other, you know, like of course Ralph and
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: like You're Doomed and all that stuff was cool, but this,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: like it feels like this was like an actual like
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: like a group of people that know each other.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: The real first first Jason movie, which which, like I said,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: he gets the mask, dude, he gets the mask. But
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: also it's it's nice because they do this other thing
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: which some of the other Jason's do a lot. I
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: think a lot of the other Jason's do, which is
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: the balancing who the villains are in the movie and
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: you have to have kind of another villain in them
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: so you can have more stuff to do. Doomed Doomed,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Vera and Shelley go off into the the town to
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: get pick up some supplies or whatever, and Shelley also
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: is like, come on, I want to come hang out
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: with you, and like it's.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: It's very weird and like she drives away first, but
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: then stops and he like runs over and it's very weird.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: They're like, uh, he's his energy is so off putting.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Its spread. If you're like, if you're listening to this
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: and you find yourself like having like difficulty, Let's say
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: you like women and you are straight dude, and you
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: want to like, don't do this ever, don't ever do this.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: It's like the most work on yourself, work on your confidence,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: work on whatever gives you confidence.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and and like and things will fall into place
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: you and.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: You and learn how to respect people and just see
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: them ask people. That's it yea.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: And sometimes it's hard because you're blinded by the fact
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: that in the combination of you feeling bad and like
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: it's fine to tell people you feel bad about yourself,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: but it's like, don't dump on people and and make
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: them feel bad.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: It's nobody's that job to hold that emotion for you.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: You have to learn how to like be okay with yourself. Yeah,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: in every and that's why, like the whole like that's
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: why this world of like you know, he's a tubby guy.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: He's like he's not anything like he's this is not
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: a bad looking guy, you know what I mean, Like yeah,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: or like you can do a lot of things with
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: like how you sty yourself, you can do a lot
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: of things with Like this is also eighties, I know,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: but like it was just like just the tropify I guess.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I guess it's showing like.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: This was a fat guy in the eighties. This isn't
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: just a normal guy now.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: It's outrageous, but like the way they tropified that, it
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: is kind of it makes the Jasoness the scary thing
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: of like just like total lack of your humanity.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like speaking of lack of humanity when they get robbed,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: or that lady tries to rob, not rob but like intimidated.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: You mean the racist Jason movies, Dude, Like how this
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: movie shows the very first people of color in Earnest
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: and is like hey, like here is a black lady
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: and a black guy. Also a white guy though, and
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: they're a motorcycle gang. And like it's kind of weird
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: because it's like code for like just like scary punks.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: It's like very eighties and nineties scary punk energy, but
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: like these people just like normal people right now, Like
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: just like dangling.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: They're not normal people. She steps on the wallet and
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: is like, you have to say please, man, She's she's like,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I know, but it's like, what is this a condom?
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: A rubber? And you know, they are shaming her even
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: though they're why don't fuck with condoms?
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Why would they do this? Why would they do this?
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Because there're eighties punks. There's a reason that he needs
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: to punch through the window so his fist can go
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: into the camera, so we have a three D fist.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: But he also this Shelley fucking drives into their motorcycles
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: and it was the big black dude is like what
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: the fuck and throws the heer down, punches through the glass.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: But you know what, like the movie also wasn't judging
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: the punks like they in a way like they didn't.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: It wasn't like they deserved it. They deserved it, you know.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: No, totally, it feels pretty much like the plot is
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: around the punks. Is more so that that Vira can
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: have a reason to not think Shelley's a dickless loser
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: right and set up the wallet for later too.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: And also then when set up the punks for later,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: of course, motivation.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: And gives them, gives us more of a reason to
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: have more people to die, like in a cool way
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: of course. And the yo yo this is where the
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: yo yo comes in, where it just keeps going like
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: the yo yo the camera.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: See a shot like that, it kind of looks great. Yeah,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: it was cool.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: But the and this the hip, the Cheech and Chong couple.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: This dude looks so much like Mark Maren.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: I thought he looked like seventies Richard dreyfe Is.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Really I thought he just looked like Mark Maren.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, who are your wizards I've got
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I've got some wizards. Yeah, totally.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: And then you know, like they come back and Rick
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: has such a good reaction to what the hell did
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: you do to my car?
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Oh man? Like the the whole front of the glasses
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: punched through and like the side is punched through, and
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: they're like, well we got away for some scary punks.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: But also he's like it'll be like brand new, and
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: he's like I don't really want to be here right
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: now because I'm not getting any puss. My car is
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: fucking broken.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: He's being very cooked, dude. He's he's being called a
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: fucking loser. It's interesting this movie does play into like
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: that whole like culture of like bullying and who's the
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: athlete and yeah, like it's it's interesting.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: It's much more high school. This one is, yeah, much
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: more high school.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: But but it's kind of cool because the kids seemed
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: a little bit older though they seemed.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: They did twenties, like.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: But maybe late teens, like they're done high school, but
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: it's still teens.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: And I loved the fact that the punks did the
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: like siphoning the gas, I try that kind of stuff.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I was like, that's pretty awesome. But then they're like,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: let's go burn down the barn first.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: First thing when escalated from just siphoning the gas to
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: burning down the barn, I was like, Jesus Christ.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, they are bad people.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Maybe these punks do deserve to get killed by Jason.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: And it kind of like the movie sort of de
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: facto allows Jason to be a hero here because he's
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: killing the bad guys of our heroes. But I don't
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: think it's that simple. I think these these punks do
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: have some nuance in this movie, and they have their
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: own like.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Motivation character totally they totally do uh and but eighties punks.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: It also reminded me of twenty ten's Punks with Green
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Room when they're siphoning the gas to try and get
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: to other shows and stuff, And it just made me
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: feel like very both nostalgic for this this movie and
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: nostalgic for that movie. As the Lady Punk goes into
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: the barn, Jason slinkily comes in.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Dude, kind of slinky Jason.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Slinky Jason one hundred percent very different. You can already
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: tell the different body movements of this Jason versus the
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: last one.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: But this this one, this guy's like a lot more
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: casual than.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: He is a very casual there's a lot less The
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: other one has a lot more intention and menace and menace,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: whereas this only gets menacing like way later and in.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: The close closer shots, like when you see him ever
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: in a wide he's still pretty casual, Like he's very
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: kind of like being.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: In the lurching but slinky.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when does he get like more like thicker bloated Jason,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I think in the next one, because isn't he kind
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: of like a fucking tank?
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: And like, yeah, it gets progressively.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: More bloated Jason because he's never I didn't realize how
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: spelled Jason was, you know what I mean. Totally, he's
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: kind of like a pretty fit dude.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: He's like burly, Like he's like a burly dude.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: He's thick, barrel chested, he's gotten definitely like got constitution,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: but like he's kind of like farmer constitutions.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Totally, yeah, absolutely, uh. And then we see the lady
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: punk like swing out while the slicked back hair. The
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: white punk the white comes in and and he doesn't
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: see her yet, but the the fucking dick what's it
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: called rake, not a rake, it'sfork is stabbed through her
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: neck and like you just see like the shot of
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: it in the background in three d uh. And then
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: he turns and it's like poking out of the screens
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: as it cuts with one titty out. One titty has
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: to be out, of course. But I love the fact
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: that when when the the oh sorry, the white guy
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: gets stabbed also by Jason, and.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: He also dicks the fucking rake into the.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: And then he then the white guy falls down onto
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: the black dude and he like freaks out because his
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I guess it's his friend, his other friend is also
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're together or it doesn't matter,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. But then Jason has just down.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: For all of them, and he's got a spider jacket. Yeah,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: they had skull jackets and a dangly earring, a sword, dangly.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Ear dangly ones. But this, this scene I think is
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: my favorite violent scene. When he hits the black dude
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: and he just fucking like he you don't see his face,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: he just fucking rails on him and you just see
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: the body moving. He's like, whoa dude?
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: This is what it was like A very's the most
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: brutal Jason we've seen. Yeah, he's so far been very
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: like you know, like slashery and he'll like kill someone
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: in usually like one or two blows. But this was
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: like he's like fucking like beating someone.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: It's like violent against somebody who seems like he could
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: take Jason, you know what I mean, because he's.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Tall, he's dud seem all like they might be able
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: to and they do sometimes all of them, all of
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: them are able to like hold him off or like
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: he's still he seemed very human in this. Yeah, he
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: did seem like he was fallible and he could get hurt.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Something that I find enjoyment of this character in these
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: movies versus the later ones is the sort of lack
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: of invincibility, the sort of ability to take on something somebody.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Well, I think the invincibility becomes a self fulfilling prophecy
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: because the more he doesn't get killed, and the more
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: there are movies, the less he's killable. You know what
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I mean? Because even in this he gets hanged and
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: he pulls himself up the rope.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: That was so coolt talk about that and this the
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: other dude who keeps this handstanding. I mean, dude, as
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: much as it's like an annoying thing, I was like, Dude,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: if I could, I'd be doing it all the time.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Anna said the exact opposite. She was like, I find
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: this incredibly charming.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: It's awesome, it's amazing.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Because he's a delta type dude.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Men have to have.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: The types.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Men have to have genders as well.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: To exactly but they can understand that, but they can't
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: understand genders. They can't understand pronouns.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Rick and Chris having gone off to have some time alone,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Rick expresses a bit of his sadness towards not being
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: able to like hang out, be intimate, being distant with
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: this person and feeling that distance, and she's like, dude,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I loved the dream or not the dream sequence, but
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: the memory, the remembering and like the cross fading between
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: the two almost making it seem like, am I remembering
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: this right? This feels weird? And that was also a
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: callback to the second movie with the dream dream sequence
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: where it's like the flashing between the mom and Ginny
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: that like it was really cool and oh man, and
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: then it cuts to the two Stoners just sleeping. Even
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff made a lot for the characters
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: as developing them.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: And like Shelley and the handstand guy doing juggling, Dude.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I thought of you when they were juggling. I was like, oh,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Alex would totally have juggling this scene.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I totally would have.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: And then what's his girlfriend being like I know something
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: you could do with your hands and he's like, well,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go fuck this girl.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, we didn't say we didn't say that. When she's
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: getting set up in her bedroom, she has a hammock
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: instead of a bed, and that plays in because I'm
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: like that's the first thing you're gonna think of how
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: to fuck in a hammock, not like doggy style or
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: like she lies down and you you do like yeah, totally,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: like you're gonna try and missionary in the in the hammock.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like, if you're gonna give that that top energy,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: then you gotta do some some topping, not just like uh,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: you know, like you get in a hammock. It's gonna
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: be uncomfortable for both of you.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: This is what's also interesting about the You're a Shelley
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: relationship is like he does work on himself. He just
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: has to work on his confidence. Like he he's.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Like comment on it in the movie.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Drops the comedy the fucking ability to juggle like this
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: is like funny, funny. He's entertaining even if he's not
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: like quote unquote the best looking, Like he has got
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: other things and.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: He's got stuff going for him.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And then she she goes out and she
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: pokes at the wood and like leaves the what's it called,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: what is the poker in the fire while you know
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: the other two are going to have sex and he's alone.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: I mean that poker's left to the fire. Just so,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: just so so that it could get poked in and
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: it could get ruby red hot. Oh totally.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: But that then we get to the scene where she's
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: telling the story and like the way she's being dragged
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: so realistically, or the way Chris is being dragged sorry,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: and like and like uh handled, She's being handled by
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: this like scary deformed man.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Large menacing dude. Ye yeah, And like this is the
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: scene in which I didn't like Jason. I didn't. This
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: was kind of our first appearance of Jason in this
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: movie really like in full form and it's flashback Jason.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: And also his movements are like he was a little
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: graceless in this. He was clumsy.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I liked the clumsy I did. I liked like trying
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: to like like it's like a feral animal trying to
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: get it.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: I liked it. I liked it too. I liked it
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: too eventually, but I just like in this scene, I
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: know something about it bothered me.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I mean that's fair because like the way he's doing
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: it is just like it is very scary. This would
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: be a traumatic thing. Plus like we don't know it's
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: from her perspective too, and.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: It's like the way that it's shot and wide is like,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: we never see Jason for this long, like doing movements
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: like this, and for a scene like this playing out
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: for this long and this wide totally it made it scarier.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: It did make it scarier. I really loved the Cheech
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: and Shong couple. First, Cheech goes out to smoke some
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: weed in the toilet and the Jason pushes the what's
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: it called the outhouse almost in a in a jackass
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: like fashion. I don't know if you've seen Johnny Knoxville recently,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: but he's very uh, he's very slow now. He's a
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: lot slower now and talks a little bit, you know,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: He's like, it's not like he's more it's more brain damage.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: He's so brain damage, dude. Like it's sad. It's it's
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: really really sad.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Geez No.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: But then they go out to the bar and they
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: don't see anything. They're like, come on, come on, let's go,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: let's go. And then she starts smoking more weed and
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Jason just like kind of like drifts in a little
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: bit into the shot. And then Vera is like sitting
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: at the edge of the doc and fucking Shelley again,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: has a mask on and a fucking what is that
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: spear shooter spear thing and grabs her foot and she's
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: she's like, what the fuck, dude, what are you doing?
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: And he's like, I don't know. I'm a fucking loser man,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: And she's like, okay, but I like you, and you're
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: making me uncomfortable with this weird like it's it's like, honestly,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: it feels like everybody would be fine with it if
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like tied up with this like beta really
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: beta energy.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's like so try hard because it becomes
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: a self fulfilling thing of you just don't think anything
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: of yourself, so nobody else can, Yeah, nobody else.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: No one else can laugh with you at these jokes.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Or respect you because the jokes are bad and they
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: make people uncomfortable because they're like they're not like nobody
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: else is in on the joke. Yeah, exactly exactly, But
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: you're the joke. You're the joke.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: And then he leaves to go to the barn and
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: she opens up his wallet and she sees a picture
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: of him with his mom and she's like him, Yeah,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: I guess he's a nice guy. But then it falls
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: into the lake and she goes to try and catch it,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: and man, fucking Jason comes out.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: This is where it's like this scary normal.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: The scar is the best, like the standing in a
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: wide shot with the mask on and it's like, oh
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: my god, Shelly, is that you? And then pointing it is.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Who are you? His gait that it was none of
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: the people that were.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: There, totally, and then getting the spear in the eyeball
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: and then Jason just casually no washing, no walking with
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: his arms swinging but gently like walking lurchy towards the cabin.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Amazing, really scary.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: He like this feels like that kid would grow up
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: into this and not the second Jason. The second Jason
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: feels like almost, I don't know, feel in a different
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: kind of way. This penis Jason is very very mean, dirty. Yeah, totally.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: And then he comes creeping into the fucking cabin once again.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: As the lady goes to take a shower after having
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: hammock sex seemingly the worst kind of hammock sex.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not before she says I'm going to take a shower.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: You should try. Oh god, dude, it was like he
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: dick handstand guy handstand. He's like handstanding and that he
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: could like smell the cheese.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Then again, you will you will be Maybe this is
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: just revealing too much about me, but you know when
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: somebody smells and you're like, well, I'm horny and you
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: smell and it's kind of turning me on.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, there, there's definitely that, but there's like there's
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: a line of course.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Of course where and she's he's clearly crossed that he's
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: crossed it because she's like.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: You should try it sometimes, but she's still sucking, so
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: he hasn't crossed it. She's just okay with the East
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: infections for now totally.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: And then as he's like handstanding out and Jason fucking
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: cuts him in half and then MUSHes him off into
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: the fucking uh.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: The roof, the roof, he puts her in the ceiling.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, he moushes like fucking like the like inner
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: leg parts of like chopped up. It's kind of weird, dude.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: But I loved it that she picks up a copy
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: of Fangoria.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: And she's reading about Toms.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, which is great though that's an awesome not
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: just an awesome uh, Like, hey, dude, like one of
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: us succeeded kind of thing. But it's like also like, yeah,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: let's let's metalre ourselves into these movies, and it's.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Like right from the beginning, and that's what makes it
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: so fun. But the movie still takes itself so seriously, right,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: which which makes it work.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Dude, when when he grabs her head and shoves the
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: knife through her and it's just.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Like coming out, it's crazy iconic kill, as iconic as
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: any kill from from from Freddie Part one. Yeah, totally,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: and I will stand by that. I think like it's
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: this is this is where they're really like hitting their stride.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I think totally.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Jason's got the mask, dude, Yeah.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: For sure, Jason's got the mask. Rick and Chris are
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: come back hearing things outside. Cheech and Chong are making
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: popcorn so that the popcorn can fly out into the
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: screen at the audience, and the eating the popcorn in
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: the air as it's popping was great.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: But yeah, then then they go out to like, uh,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: look at all the power goes out and oh man,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Shelley comes. All the power goes out. Cheech goes to
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: fix the power, and Chong is in the kitchen taking
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: care of the popcorn and Shelley comes in with a
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: slit neck and he's like and they're like, okay, whatever.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Stop doing makeup loser. Yeah, and and he just dies
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: on the ground like the Boy who Cried Wolf.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Totally, which I loved. I love that that kind of thing.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: They didn't they didn't believe him.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Cheech fixes the the power and when he turns it
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: back on and Jason just stays there, fucking awesome, amazing.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: That was amazing because it was scary. It was like,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, oh my god. And and him being
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: like just going at him and then throwing him at
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: the electricity, uh, which every kid and teen is scared of.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: And he goes, but he does the scarier way of Dyke.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: He doesn't convulse as much. He's more still, which is
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: kind of scarier.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Totally totally, and then Jason grabs the poker and pokes
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: it through Chang Chong and she just kind of steams
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: a little bit and dies and he picks her up.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: And it's so strong.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: He's so strong, and I like that.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: They increased his strength of this one. He's able to
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: kind of like, well, he moses he's gonna moosh ahead,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: so we'll talk which we'll talk about.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, totally totally, and then Reg and Chris comes.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Happened such quick succession around this part.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's nice. I like that. I like it
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: because then we have just a couple of people that
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: we're rooting for.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which it needs to get to like Predators only
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Schwartzy's life.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Oh totally, yeah, where you're like, no, I didn't want
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: those people to die.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, you didn't want those people to die. But
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: then you're while you're mourning them, you're like, well, now
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: I've invested everything in this last carriag.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly. All the sadness transfers to them.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: And it's interesting that it's her because she has a
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: passed a violent past with Jason exactly, and much is
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: done in the movie to expand upon their law. Yeah,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: which is interesting we'll get to.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: And I really liked the fact that Rick is like
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: looking around, going from place to place, and then he
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: tells Chris, oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna go and check
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: over at the cabin or whatever. Maybe something happened there.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: And he goes over there and he comes back and
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: instead of seeing what happens to him. It cuts back
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: to Chris and she out and Jason has him behind
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: the house and he's struggling and she doesn't see the cloud.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: He's physically holding him above like dangling.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I loved that. I love the fact that
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: like strong Jason, but this dude's strong too, right, so
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: it's like, well.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, he's the alpha and the sigma's beating the
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: alpha dude.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: And then he takes his head and crushes it and
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: the eye pops out at the camera and you.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: See the like tape that it's like gliding along. I
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: loved it. It was amazing looking. It was so good.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: And then she Chris goes upstairs noticing the water coming
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: out of the bathtub and she opens the curtain and
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: there's just like bloody towels and gross body parts in there.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: But she wasn't that scared, though.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: No, she wasn't. It's so weird because she comes downstairs
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: and she's just kind of casually walking to the thing,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: and then one of the punks gets strung down and
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: he she like freaks out about that too, but she
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: she like she gets appropriately scared now and runs back
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: into the cabin.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Right, but there was also the scene where we missed
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: the part where she's like, oh, he's dead. He's dead,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: and she's like running up the stairs, but she's kind
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: of not running too fast, like she's pretty slow.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: But that she but then like Jason fucking throws rick
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: through the window.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Oh dude, and the way that like a fucking rick,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: just like.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: And and then Jason comes in with the axe. Uh,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: and he is he is fully Jason. Now it is
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: just right now.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got the mask. Uh. I think it's so
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: cool and interesting that Shelley will forever be glorified by
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: the mask. He brought the mask. Oh, totally, it was his.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: The mask was his idea.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he knew it was scary.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: He did know it was scared. It's part of like, yeah,
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: it's iconic. Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: But Shelley, Shelley Chris goes to hide from Jason and
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: not make any noise, and she goes into a closet.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: She first throws down a bunch of books on Jason.
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: And then she goes into the closet and one of
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: the other characters is in there and she falls down,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: and then Jason goes to fucking the shining through the
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: door and is like breaking this cardboard door, but when
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: she stabs him in the hand, yeah, and he like, like.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Jason getting hurt is one of my favorite things.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: It's the best.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: He just gets so shocked that it happens.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: The shock and the like going back and the camera
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: following him, and then the camera following her as she's
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: like throwing the knife around and him like sort of
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: like trying to avoid it and getting stabbed in the leg,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: but then pulling out the knife in such a like
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: dead eyed, cold way where it's like I get hurt
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: like this all the time, but it still fucking hurts.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: And then throwing the knife and get getting out of
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: the door door.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Oh dude. Yeah, I love that.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: And then her like breaking the window on the second
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: floor and trying to jump out, and then Jason catching
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: her and physically holding her.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: It was great. It's scary.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: It was great. I love the fact that she's final
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: girling in a bit of a Sigourny Weaver kind of
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: way where it's like I'm kind of cool in a
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: badass but I'm still very very scared.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And and there's a kind of like she's
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: not underestimating the situation.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: No, she goes to grab the van and Jason is
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: standing there menacingly, and then she's like, Nope, I'm gonna
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: fucking kill you until he like jumps out of the way.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: And then so she's driving, but she doesn't get very
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: far because of the course the.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Gas was siphoned out, yeah, and Jason lurching but the
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: leg kind of like hurting him. And then as she's
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: on the bridge and trying to like like get the
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: car to move again, the car starts falling into the
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: like bottom of the bridge and Jason catches her and
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: she rolls up the window to trap him, and he
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: like smashes his face into the window. It keeps going.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: It's like a really good like final like ten fifteen
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: minutes of like was anything, a good like little beats
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: of time to like show the feats of strength of
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: him but also show her like coolly escaping. And they
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: get to the barn and he like locks her into
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: the barn with him and is like searching for her,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: but like the violence sort of searching and moving things.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: I thought was great. I thought it was awesome.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: And then it turns out that the black Punk is
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: not dead, dude, he's alive, and he gets that like
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: a pretty cool hero moment where like he does get killed,
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: but like he's able to kind of like fight off
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Jason for a second in a way that allows for
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: what's her friend.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: She's like hooked on to one of the what are
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: these called, I don't know, right, not great. She's like
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: on a scaffold. Scaffold, no, that's not a scaffold on
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: the top of the barn. On the top of the barn. Yeah,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: and she's trying to get out, and then yeah, fucking
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: the black punk comes out. But I love the fact
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: that as she's she climbs up to the top of
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: the barn and Jason comes out lurching to see where
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: she is, and she hits him over the head with
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: a shovel and he like is unconscious for a second,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: and then she ties the rope from earth earlier and
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: pushes his body it, tries to push his body out
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: to hang him, but then he like starts getting conscious
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: again and starts trying to grab her, and she's like no, no,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: then pushes him down and it's like.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, man, like Jesus Christ, and like this
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: is the first time where I'm like, he could he
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: could have died there, he just yeah, would be people
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: would have died and could have died there. But like,
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: I guess, if you're superhuman, it's possible. It is technically
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: possible for a human to survive something.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: But I love we're still in the realm of reality
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: with her.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: I love the fact that he pull does a pull
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: up and then takes the mask off, is one handed
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: pull up and takes the mask off to laugh at
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: her no and show.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Her, to show her that it's him from the first movie,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: from a not for the first movie from her memory. Yeah,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: that she has.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: From her memory, Yeah, totally. And then this is where
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: the the punk comes out and he gets his arm fucking.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: Well. Okay, but this is what's interesting, dude. So do
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: you think that like Jason was consciously like trying to
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: menace her because because she is a person who slipped
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: from his like grasp and she was being promiscuous then
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: by having sex with Rick. That's when he first caught her.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: It was the night after she had left Rick's place,
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: she went back home, and she was so scared of
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: her parents that she left did a risky move and
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: was outside and later on, because she was outside and
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: alone and a woman, she was menaced, which is commented
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: on by Shelley don't go out, Like remember when he
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: says like you shouldn't be going out late at night
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: or whatever something like that. So it's like it's present.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: That kind of thought process of like women are not
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: safe around violent men is in the movie.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, one hundred percent. She axes him in the
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: face and the axe pokes out at us as the audience,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: and then we get a nice three three dimensional perfect
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: trilogy moment of she goes back to the.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Boat, yes, and this was my favorite part.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: And she falls asleep and then she gets caught on
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: a piece of wood and she's like, I gotta move
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: this to get out of the way.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: And then and then.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: She sees maskless Jason in the building and he's like.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: A, it's so scary.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: It's very scary, but that is out daytime Jason running dude.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing. But then but.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, she's like, oh my god,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: he's gone, and fucking Missus, deadhead Missus.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: Is now on a body again.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, is on a body and pulls her under into
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: the lake in the okay fright of the thirteenth part
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: one fashion.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: So I think this is the first time that like
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: there's overt magic in Jason. Yeah, right, that overtly The
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: mom is a ghost and she's a swamp of ghost and.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: She's a ghost lifestle. And then this cop goes out.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know, she's fucking freaking out.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: She's she's something's not right with her. Now she's damaged,
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: good sir.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: But then we get the I think one of the
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: coolest shots in the series so far, which is Jason
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: still dead in the barn and the axe in his
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: head and it like comes comes down.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: So I wanted to ask you, does Jason eventually have
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: like a concave head to signify where the axe was chopped.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he does, actually, right, but I'm not
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent because I haven't seen these movies in
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: a long time. Tim But then it is how excited
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty excited. It fades back into the lake and
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: there's like almost like a drop that happens, and like.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: The water there's like the mom for water.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the water ripples, uh, and we get that fucking.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: It's like a Pebbles and the rip Whos and then
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: Jendres the rip Who's This is also very decidedly eighties Jason.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: Jason has taken on his eighties. Jason is more eighties eighty.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely more eighties and it's a it's a.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Cool So do you think that what do I love
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: this song? I love how it ends? Do you think
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: that what Kse is saying is true that Jason is
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: an implied Rapist's JASONI rapist?
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: I think Jason is like a Michael Jackson figure where
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: he kind of doesn't know what rape or sex is,
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: but it's kind of like molesty and knows what pleasure is,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: but it's like doesn't quite know how the feelings are
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: supposed to be managed.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: You just think he's like like incredibly socially maladapted.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, almost like almost like a conan if you will,
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: where it's like yeah.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Oh right, Yeah, they're kind of like brute or or
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: rocky brute who doesn't know. Yeah, it's not ill intentioned necessary. Yes,
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: he's not cognizant of what like, so he's not he's
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: not a rapist. I agree with that. I don't think
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: I think the movie is actually always actively trying to
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: make him seem not a rapist.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: It seems like it. Yeah, we'll see what the rest
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: of the series like. It's now it's just like patches
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: of a movie that I'm like thinking about.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Well, what's interesting about it is like as the movies go,
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: they they will expand on that lore by adding like
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: different things to like, you know that eventually become canonically
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: part of what the Jason character is. Like, we aren't
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: even at the most famous Jason yet. Yeah, which is
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: Kane Hotter. But who is this Jason? We should shout
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: him out? We should shout him out. He was great
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: Richard Brooker. Richard Brookery Is that the only guy he
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: is in this one?
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: He is the only guy in this one?
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Okay? And like, at first, I wasn't going to give
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: him a lot of Machette's dude. At first, I was
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: going to be like, I don't know, they didn't want
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: to ruin the sympathetic mystique. Case says they were originally
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: going to make him a rapist, but then they pulled back. Interesting,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: I mean I think that works for the the I
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: think that works for the character.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was one Jason. He was part three. He
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: started the the mask lore. I'm gonna give this like
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: a I'm gonna give this a nine. He's scary, he's
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: but he's still got the normal.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: I like that. I get to see bald penis Jason
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: instead of faral long hair Jason. He started the long hair,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: but he got a fade.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: Dude, he did. When are we gonna get stringy strands Jason?
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Stringy strands definitely get into later territories. So you can
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: shine a light behind him so that you can see
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: the stringy strands.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: I can't wave with his string strands.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Swamp monster Jason, but yeah, he was. He was menacing.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: The strength is like upped. So I'm gonna give it
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: like a nine.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: It's hyper. I I loved it. I'm gonna give it
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: a nine to two for Jason's for a movie, I
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: would give it like I don't know, man, I kind
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: of want to give this one a pretty high score,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Like I really like this. I'm I'm excited. I've been
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: told that it gets even better with part four, So
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: I don't want to like overtly give this a ten,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: so maybe I'll hold off. I'll give it a nine,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: just two nines I'll give it two nines. I was
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: hesitant to give it a nine for Jason's and a
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: nine for a movie. Dude, I thought it was a
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: really great installment. Yeah, it's fun, and it builds on
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: the character in the way that like we get more
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: intimate time with him in a way. Yeah, like we
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: get to kind of like suss out how he might
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: relate to someone because we see him have a relationship
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: over time for the first time.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Totally, totally. I think ultimately I would give this an eight.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: I gave the last one an eight. I would give
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: this one an eight. I agree with you. I'm still
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I'm still needing to be a little bit more wowed.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: Really, I'm pretty excited. I'm pretty excited.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Happy with it. It was awesome, It was really fun.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: But I mean, could you tell how excited?
• 1:02:11
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• 1:02:15
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• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: I wanted to talk to you for a second about
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Tom Cruise if you don't mind. Yeah, So I'm excited
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: to start the season because Tom Cruise is obviously, like
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: had such a insane impact on cinema and like you know,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: action and and all different science fiction, all different kinds
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: of movies, all different kinds of genres, but a very
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: polarizing figure. Like you know, one of the things that
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: I didn't think about was like the militarism, you know,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: and the djangoism of like him being responsible for like
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: stoking the kind of like nationalistic American sort of hawkish
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: kind of like you know, hegemony, right, like the kind
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: of like empirical idea of America. And so I feel
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: like slightly conflicted, but also like important that we cover
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: such an interesting uh zeitgeist figure.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because like, in contrast to what, right,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: every action here, like every action here we've cover except
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: for except for actually, ironically enough, Van dam is the
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: least jingoistic of all the because he's always like but yes.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: He's a Renegade's renegade.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: It's like, you're American, you know, I could buy Schwartzy
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: is more American than to him.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: But that's the thing of SCHWARTZI is that he also
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: has the fact that he's not ever American and he
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: has to be his background has to be explained as
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: being from outside of America. That I think it's like,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: you know, it gives him kind of like a pass,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, totally, because he can be like, oh,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: I'm removed from it. It's it's imaginary actually, you know. Sorry,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: there's always something about Schwartzy that like strained believability, and
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: that's what made it larger. That's what makes him larger
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: than life.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's true, that's true. But Tom Cruise
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: is a guy that's the opposite. He is all American,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: I know, and he's like a weird cult leader too.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: That's that's what I thought you were going to go
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: for where it's like no, and that is that is
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: he hasn't seen his daughter in like ten years. Yeah, dude,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: it's so bizarre, like.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: And nobody ever really talks about that part of it.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Nobody talks about the gay rumors and like that. Yeah,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: the gay rumors of well we'll talk it got squashed,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: but I think like we should start talk thinking about
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: anyway we'll talk about it. We should we should start thinking,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: you know, because you know what I saw. I saw
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: a video that talked about like the truth of Tom Cruise.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: And one of the things that sets up, dude, is
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: that Tom Cruise was the basis for Christian Bale in
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: American Cycle, American Cycle, and like he watched him from
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: an interview with him talking about to David Letterman about
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: how he shut the mask off of like a pilot
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: or like he was doing a flight simulation and they
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: were up way higher altitude than they could be, and
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: there was like a third guy that wasn't doing anything,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: so like he as a joke, shut his gas off,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: shut his oxygen off, and he passed out, and he's
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: like laughing about it moniacally, like he couldn't he couldn't
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: stop laughing about it, and like David Letterman's like.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, like look, conceptually, it's fun. Like hearing
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: somebody say that is wild. That is a wild thing.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: To fucking do.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: I would be like, whoa dude, Like what, But hearing
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: you tell that story, it is kind of funny and
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: Letterman's reaction it is a bit funny, but like at
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: the same time like man, like that's fucked dude. Yeah,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: I mean he's also got that kind of dead eyed
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: but he's such a good actor, Like it's psychotic that
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: he can do that turn off that kind of thing
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: about him that's like scary and like make you feel
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: things about him.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: That's very weird. Totally, he's he and like that's why
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: it's weird that he is such a good actor. He's
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: a good actor in a way that he's a vessel.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. But I think it's different than than a vessel,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: because I think a vessel is more like I think
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: of a vessel as more dumb, whereas I don't necessarily
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: know of Tom Cruise as a person who's like a dumb.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's dumb. I think his agenda is
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: like two say something about like to be a figurehead.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah totally.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: I think he's leaned into like his role as like
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: an American export, you know, like someone something, someone that's
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: going to be like the face of American cinema.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah totally. I think that's totally true.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: Whatever that is. And so he'll always like represent that hard,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and then when he does
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: the left field things, they're like, oh wow, it's just
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: to throw you off. He's always he's like a stallone.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: He is like a Stallone's like an institution. Yeah, totally.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, he is an institution and he's a brand.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: But but it's different than than Tom Hanks or or
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: Will Smith.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: Not like those guys have the cachet.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: No no, no, they do have the cachet, but they the
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: perception of not being safe is what sells Tom Cruise
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: more than those guys, because those guys are incredibly safe.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: Kate my wife's name. Oh you're fucking mouth. That's how
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: safe he was not safe for work, dude.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 6: Anyway, see you next week, See you next week. M