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The Vikings win again, Evan wins an auction, and Austin wins at beer??? | TSH Ep. 72 · The Skol Hop

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  Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
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  Speaker 1: of The Skull Hop. I'm Evan and I'm Austin. Where's
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like drinking beer
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  Speaker 1: talking about the Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah we do. And we got to talk about a
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  Speaker 2: Vikings win over the Seahawks today on episode seventy two
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  Speaker 2: of the School Hop.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah we did. Before that, I had this been the
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  Speaker 1: wheel of purple punishments because I picked against the Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: Never do that, never do that. Well, we also got
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  Speaker 2: to enjoy some brand new beer, well new to me,
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  Speaker 2: you tried it last week, but some great beer from
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  Speaker 2: River Ridge Brewing out of Bellevue, Iowa. Yes, we did.
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  Speaker 2: And we also.
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  Speaker 1: Introduced a new segment which I kind of had fun
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  Speaker 1: with and I'm hoping we'll continue to include that in
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  Speaker 1: future episodes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked it too. That was good. But go ahead,
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  Speaker 2: grab your favorite beverage and join us for episode seventy
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  Speaker 2: two of The School Hop. School School. All right, we
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  Speaker 2: want to give a shout out to sponsor Big Top
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  Speaker 2: great price. So thanks, Speak Top Ventures. Yeah, you know
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  Speaker 2: what we had to do. What do we gotta do?
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  Speaker 1: I gotta spin the wheel, Yeah you do, because I
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  Speaker 1: picked against the Vikings and we're actually recording on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: which is kind of fun. The Vikings game just wrapped
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  Speaker 1: up a few hours ago. The Vikings got the dub
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  Speaker 1: in Seattle for the first time in a long time,
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  Speaker 1: which we'll get into. Oh yeah, for sure in a
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  Speaker 1: little bit here. But I have to spin the wheel.
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  Speaker 1: Of purple punishments.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you either have to win an eBay auction
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  Speaker 2: or wax a Limb. I don't know. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: which one.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like more, but all right, I'll take the eBay
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  Speaker 1: auction any day of the week. I am not prepared
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  Speaker 1: at all to wax anything.
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  Speaker 2: You have everything you need. I'll just say that to
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  Speaker 2: wax A Limbs.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, here we go. You're ready, I'm ready.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna spin it. Oh, let's turn the volume up
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  Speaker 1: a little bit and make sure we can hear that spin.
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  Speaker 2: Here we go, and I will be I'm predicted it.
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  Speaker 2: I should have said wax olim first. Maybe the universe
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  Speaker 2: would have heard that. So, yeah, you gotta win an
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  Speaker 2: eBay auction. So kind of the gist behind this is
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna record your screen here for a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: And we didn't really lay out the rules of this,
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  Speaker 2: but when I mentioned this, I kind of imagined, over
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  Speaker 2: the course of the episode, or at least before this
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  Speaker 2: episode is done, you have to bid on and win
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  Speaker 2: any eBay auction you want. But it has to be
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  Speaker 2: an auction, can't be a by it now. And the
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  Speaker 2: thing about eBay is there full of You could just
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  Speaker 2: search your favorite sports teams and there's always going to
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  Speaker 2: be an auction ending in the next few minutes of
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  Speaker 2: like a trading card or like a sports card of
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  Speaker 2: a play, so you won't have to spend too much.
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  Speaker 2: You could if you wanted to drop some money on
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  Speaker 2: some like signed memorabilia or something, go for it. That's
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  Speaker 2: not in the rules, but if it were me, I'd
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  Speaker 2: try to go for like a dollar trading card or
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  Speaker 2: something for the vikings.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna drop a lot of money. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: gonna say that I'll probably find something cheap. Yep. I
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  Speaker 1: did just get logged into eBay while you were kind
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  Speaker 1: of laying out the ground rules, So I think we're
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  Speaker 1: good there. I'm gonna get this screen recording set up
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  Speaker 1: here and then we'll just have that kind of maybe
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  Speaker 1: hanging out down in the corner somewhere. Before we do that,
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  Speaker 1: let's crack open these beers, okay, really quick, because the
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  Speaker 1: eBay auction, I don't know, that could take a few minutes,
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  Speaker 1: It could take.
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  Speaker 2: Could take the whole episode. Maybe you think you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: win your first one and somebody stoop scoops in and
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  Speaker 2: snipes your it could be a player card for an
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  Speaker 2: extra dollar or something. Try again.
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  Speaker 1: Fun fact, I've never won an auction on eBay.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I ever did?
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  Speaker 1: I've done a whole bunch of buy now, Okay, I've never.
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  Speaker 2: I've never done a true auction. Nice.
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  Speaker 1: This is the first for me, and I will definitely
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  Speaker 1: be buying something Vikings related. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: the nature of it. So but before we do that, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let's get into these beers. So last week, we had
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  Speaker 1: friend of the show Forest on and we were all
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  Speaker 1: in our respective homes. Just kind of circumstances dictated that,
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  Speaker 1: and I, well, with your permission, I tried River Ridge Brewery.
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  Speaker 1: I tried a few of their beers that they graciously
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  Speaker 1: gave us. We've been talking about this for a few
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  Speaker 1: weeks now. We're going to be heading up there in
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  Speaker 1: January for a live podcast event with the Manstream podcast,
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  Speaker 1: so that's pretty exciting. I happened to be driving kind
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  Speaker 1: of that way through the Bellevue area, stopped in there
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  Speaker 1: with a buddy of mine, and they graciously gave us
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  Speaker 1: a six pack of beer that's awesome to try on
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  Speaker 1: their episode. So I gave a sneak preview last week,
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  Speaker 1: but this is maybe more of like the full flashed.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to try it, and they they gave me
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  Speaker 1: a sample of this Vanilla Porter.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm so excited.
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm more excited for you to try it than
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  Speaker 1: maybe you are to try it yourself, because I think
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  Speaker 1: you and I have some fond memories of vanilla porter
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  Speaker 1: going back to our college days. The moment I tried this,
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  Speaker 1: and I have a witness that was sitting right next
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  Speaker 1: to me, our good friend Larry. He was like, he
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  Speaker 1: was sitting right to my left, just like you are.
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  Speaker 1: He can testify to the fact that I said, Austin
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  Speaker 1: will like this beer.
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  Speaker 2: All right. I believe you.
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  Speaker 1: As soon as I put my lips on it, I said,
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  Speaker 1: Austin will like this beer. So I really want to
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  Speaker 1: crack these open. I want you to try this, all right,
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  Speaker 1: Let's give this a try.
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  Speaker 2: This The name of it again is called Friends Vanilla Porter, yep.
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  Speaker 2: And it's from River Ridge Brewing out of Bellevue, Iowa.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll talk about it later. But yeah, you mentioned
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  Speaker 2: we will be at that live podcast event being put
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  Speaker 2: on by the Manstream Podcast. I think it's called I
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  Speaker 2: Keep Doing It. It's called on Tap on Tap yep,
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  Speaker 2: and January eighteenth will be at the brewery. We'll have
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  Speaker 2: a live podcast there and anybody can show up. It's
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  Speaker 2: free to attend. Of course, if you want beverages or
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  Speaker 2: food or anything like that, you'll have to you know,
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  Speaker 2: pony up for that. But it doesn't cost anything to
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  Speaker 2: get in. So I'm excited for that. I'm really excited
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  Speaker 2: for this beer. And let's get going.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I will say the people at river Ridge,
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  Speaker 1: the two guys work in the bar. The day that
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  Speaker 1: I was there, they were awesome. The atmosphere is super cool.
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  Speaker 1: It's right on the Mississippi. The building itself is like
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  Speaker 1: late eighteen hundred's building. It's in the basement, so it's
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  Speaker 1: like all this like stone facade. Super cool, great place
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  Speaker 1: for a brewery. They collaborate with another brewery. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: I think they were technically bought out by another brewery,
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  Speaker 1: but they were able to keep their name river Ridge,
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  Speaker 1: and they kind of are in collaboration with Slash under
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  Speaker 1: ownership of another brewery kind of in that same region.
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  Speaker 2: I think I even heard the guys on the mainstream.
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  Speaker 2: We've never been there, but I think I heard them
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  Speaker 2: say that there's even like a golf simulator at the area.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. I didn't see it. It's it was
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  Speaker 1: in a different room. But the Manstream studio is kind
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  Speaker 1: of right across the way. There's kind of like the brewery.
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  Speaker 1: Then there's this like outdoor patio, and then I think
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  Speaker 1: there's studios right on the other side of the patio
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  Speaker 1: from the brewery.
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  Speaker 2: So that's cool. All right, Well, let's give this friends
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  Speaker 2: vanilla porter a try. I'm excited, school school. It's just
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  Speaker 2: as good as it was in the bar. Oh my goodness,
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  Speaker 2: isn't that as delicious? Okay, yes, these were given to
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  Speaker 2: us for free, but we are not paid for any opinion,
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  Speaker 2: not that our opinion is really worth much anyways, But
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  Speaker 2: my goodness, this is delicious.
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  Speaker 1: The vanilla, isn't it just so rich and just out front?
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  Speaker 2: Great, not like too much. It's it's really good, really dark.
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  Speaker 2: You're not seeing through this. It's got really good head retention.
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  Speaker 2: I think that can said six point two percent, so
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  Speaker 2: it's holding its own. Oh my good If you like
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  Speaker 2: vanilla porters, because it's kind of a genre of beers,
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  Speaker 2: there's a porter, but like a vanilla porter is like
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  Speaker 2: another branch off that if you like those at all,
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  Speaker 2: this is one of the best I've ever had, and
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  Speaker 2: I like Nila Porters, so yes, this is better than
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  Speaker 2: Line and Google's Vanilla porter. I'll say that.
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  Speaker 1: Agreed one percent. It's it's cool, all right. I am
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  Speaker 1: going to get started on this eBay auction thing, yep.
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  Speaker 2: And this is a good time to mention too. We
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  Speaker 2: do put out the audio version of our podcasts really
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  Speaker 2: everywhere where you can find podcasts, but we also videotape
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  Speaker 2: this so you can see our lovely faces and Evans
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  Speaker 2: attempt at winning an eBay auction here by watching us
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube or Spotify. We clip out stuff for TikTok
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  Speaker 2: and Instagram and Facebook and all that stuff. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you can you can see us. If you like podcasts
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  Speaker 2: where you can watch it visually. That's we're available there too,
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  Speaker 2: So check us out. Evan, you are in eBay, I
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  Speaker 2: am in eBay. Let's see here, sort by, Let's sort
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  Speaker 2: by ending the soonest yep, and see trading cards and
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  Speaker 2: player cards.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Galore, Dalvin Cook ending in a minute, kind of
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Addison rookie card. Okay, I'm going to bid on that.
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  Speaker 1: That's a dollar fifty. I'm going to place a bid. Yeah, see,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't done this before, and now I'm doxing myself.
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: Now we can there, We might be able to like
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: or we'll definitely clip out whatever we need to clip
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  Speaker 2: out or blur out.
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  Speaker 1: When I kind of credit card geez, all right, we
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  Speaker 1: might need to we might need to pause on this
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  Speaker 1: and come back.
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  Speaker 2: That's fine. It's not like we don't have anything else
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  Speaker 2: to talk about. The Vikings played today, and we don't
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  Speaker 2: normally record on days that the Vikings play, so this
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  Speaker 2: was really cool to kind of think, like, hey, we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna talk about this game that we're watching right now.
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  Speaker 2: In just a few hours, Vikings went somewhere that they
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  Speaker 2: usually don't win at Seattle. I think they've lost something
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  Speaker 2: like five straight or something like that in Seattle, and
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  Speaker 2: it's not usually a place the Vikings do pretty good in.
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  Speaker 2: But today, even with the rain, even with the twelfth
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  Speaker 2: Man that those fans like to call themselves, and the
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  Speaker 2: team retired that jersey because they're cheesy and they like
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  Speaker 2: to camp for their fans. Even with all that and
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: a tired defense, the Vikings pulled out a win and
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  Speaker 2: it was an exciting one a heart thumper. It was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was definitely stressful at times. I have to
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  Speaker 1: refresh this. I'm gonna I'm gonna try aga in here, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and I think I have some card information that I
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: can get to. I'm going to go down the list
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  Speaker 1: of little bit to an auction that doesn't end in
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  Speaker 1: like ten seconds five seconds.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine. We'll kind of keep going as you
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  Speaker 2: as you work on that. So yeah, Sam Donald. One
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: thing that I thought was really cool is apparently Sam
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: Donald's really good. Did you know that I'd becoming aware?
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: I did not know that.
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  Speaker 2: But so today Sam Donald, I think he cemented himself
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  Speaker 2: as the sole record owner of and this is kind
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: of an obscure stat but not really, but he has
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: the most games for the Vikings in the regular season
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: of a quarterback rating of one hundred or more. I
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: think he was tied with Dante Culpepper and maybe another
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: player as of last week, but this week he put
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  Speaker 2: himself over the top twelve games with a QBR of
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  Speaker 2: one hundred or more, and I think today's was like
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and twelve points something. So he yeah, he
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  Speaker 2: didn't look like Superman. One hundred percent of the time today.
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  Speaker 2: But there were some plays in some situations that Sam
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  Speaker 2: Donald looked unbeatable, unshakable. He looked amazing. Ben Leeber after
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  Speaker 2: the game, he always has like a quick, like one
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: or two minute little you know, talk about the game
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  Speaker 2: on the field he was, He said, like Sam Donald
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  Speaker 2: didn't just play like a pro bowler, he played like
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  Speaker 2: an all pro somebody that should be in MVP conversations.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying Sam Donald should win MVP, but he
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  Speaker 2: should definitely be in those conversations. And he's taking the
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  Speaker 2: Vikings high places this year.
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  Speaker 1: I put in a bed, you put in a bed.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very distracted right now.
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  Speaker 2: This is good.
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  Speaker 1: This is high stakes negotiation. I have a Jordan Addison
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  Speaker 1: rookie card I believe for ninety nine cents. It ends
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  Speaker 1: in less than two minutes. Now, all right, And I'm
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  Speaker 1: getting all these emails now that you're like the high bidder.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's hope you win it. Is there a shipping
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  Speaker 2: cost on this guy?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I guess we'll find out. It's probably a good thing
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: we're not doing this live because somebody might, you know,
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  Speaker 2: try to get in there and overbid you, just just
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  Speaker 2: to see it happens bid me up, so I spend
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  Speaker 2: way more than I should. Eventually you just stop and
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: try for another dollar card or something. There's only two bids.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's myself and someone else, and I think
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  Speaker 1: I bid four dollars. So it started at ninety nine
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  Speaker 1: cents and I quadrupled that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, so I don't know if you're not a frequent
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  Speaker 2: eBay or which I'm not. You put in like your
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  Speaker 2: max bid, which it sounds like you put in four
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  Speaker 2: bucks yep, and it will only like put your actual
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: bid up to be higher than what was the current bid.
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  Speaker 2: So if the current bid was ninety nine cents and
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: you put a max bid of four dollars, I think
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: it'll just put your bid to a dollar and then
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: if somebody out bids that, it will automatically up your
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: bid up to four dollars. So for all those people
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: listening to our podcasts that don't know how you bay work,
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: but h so you might get it for less than
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  Speaker 2: four dollars.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: I'm very much a novice, so I'll admit that right away.
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  Speaker 1: This doesn't seem like a punishment necessarily. Well, you're gonna
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: get some cool but.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's that you have to like stress out and
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  Speaker 2: do it on the show and spend you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: a dollar or four twenty seconds. Yeah, here we go.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see if we win it. Really hope somebody snipes
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: you just go snipe him once. Just just lose one bidding.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: And then I got to go back to step one
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  Speaker 1: and find something else and then bid on it. Here
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  Speaker 1: we go five, four, three, two and one. Did I
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  Speaker 1: win it? It says it ended. I don't know if
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: I want and we're determining the winner. Please refresh the page. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's scary, and oh I refreshed. I did not say
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  Speaker 1: payment processes in an hour.
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  Speaker 2: I think that means you won. I think I won.
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  Speaker 2: There you go in. I won with.
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  Speaker 1: Two dollars and seventy five cents.
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  Speaker 2: Oh so somebody did up their bid.
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  Speaker 1: I think that includes shipping and tax for seven cents.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll do it. There, you get firm and pay.
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  Speaker 2: We are.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to be in possession of a Jordan Addison
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  Speaker 1: rookie card.
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  Speaker 2: Keep an eye out that might show up here in
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: the studio somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: At least for one episode. You'll have to display it,
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: show it off once you get it. But yeah, that
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: was fun. I don't know how entertaining that was for
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: the listeners and viewers, but I had fun watching you
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: kind of freak out about that. Yeah, getting logged in
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  Speaker 2: and everything really quick. It was something I wasn't prepared for.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: We'll just say that. But it was fun.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know that I'm a huge eBay guy,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: but now that I know a little bit.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Just wait, you're gonna next week you and be like, guys,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: I have a problem. I've been twenty thousand dollars on
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: even I can guarantee you that won't happen unless you know,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: we hit the big time. Yeah, sure, but I don't
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: think that's going to be happening anytime soon either.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Not that it couldn't, but maybe not.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: We did have two different videos on TikTok hit a
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: million views in the last day. Yeah, so yeah, if
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: you're into injury videos, check out our TikTok the school
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: hop on TikTok. Yeah, we have fun just analyzing kind
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: of these major injuries that happen to players. Obviously, it's
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: no fun to watch a player get injured, yeah, but
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: you don't root for it.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: For some reason, people out there are gluttons for that
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: sort of content.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I am. I am a glutton for other people's punishment,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I guess. So.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got a couple of videos that were posted
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: in the Saturday games yesterday, just kind of documenting some
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: of those injuries. So yeah, check us out there if
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: you're interested in that.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think text and wide receiver Tank Dell had
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: a pretty gruesome one and the other video was Ravens
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: running back Justice Hill. He had a really scary got
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: knocked out cold cushion was just went later on the field. Yeah,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: So those videos are up on our TikTok page if
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: that's something you're into. We're obviously not celebrating these things,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: like Evan said, We're not cheering and rooting and hollering
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: whenever somebody has a life altering injury. But some people
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: like watching that kind of stuff. And yeah, like I said,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: I am some people when it comes to that. But
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: they're up there. But enough about all that. We got
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: the Vikings. Yeah, the Vikings won their thirteenth straight football game, well,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: not thirteenth straight, their thirteenth game of the season, which
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: doesn't happen a whole lot for the Vikings. They've had
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: seasons plenty of seasons they've won ten or more, eleven
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: and more, twelve and more. But there's only been four seasons,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: including this year, that the Vikings have won thirteen or
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: more games.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell has been the coach for two of them.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's only been the coach for three years,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: so it's wild sixty six percent of his coaching career
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: the Vikings have won at least thirteen games.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Let me just pound the table right now and just
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: say that guy needs to win the Coach of the Year.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, sure if that's if I'm not disagreeing
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: with that at all. I also, I'm personally not one
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: that typically cares about those individual awards. Maybe I will
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: if the Vikings ever win the big Game, and I
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: don't have that like looming over my head and my thoughts.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: But like, yeah, it was cool when Adrian won the
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: MVP in twenty twelve. It's really cool when the Vikings
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: sends more than, you know, two or three guys to
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl, that's always fun. When Justin Jefferson got
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Offensive Player of the Year two years ago, that was
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: pretty cool. And when Kevin O'Connell wins Coach of the Year,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: which he so far is the coach of the year
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: in my book and in a lot of people's books.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: That will be really cool, But ultimately, for me, I
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: don't really care too much about all that until the
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Vikings win the big game. And I'm not saying the
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: word right now.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: I think that's been the difference maker for this season though,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: because even in his postgame speech to the team today,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: one game at a time, one week at a time,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously he knows how special this is. He
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: knows that it's and he acknowledged it's rare to win
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: thirteen games in this league. You don't do that normally.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: That's not a normal thing. That's not something that every
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: team comes out and does. And there are plenty of
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: teams out there that wish they could have won thirteen
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: games this year and didn't, and all the teams that
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: have already been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs are like, yeah,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: we wish we would have won thirteen games. That was
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: the goal starting out this season. But I think he's
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: got this team so grounded, so focused on what's ahead,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: and what's been fascinating to me is how the narrative
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: has changed from the beginning of the season until now.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Because when we made our preseason picks, which obviously I
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: picked against the Vikings in this game against the Seahawks,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: which I think I had some justification to do so,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: because the Vikings struggle going to Seattle. They hadn't won
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: there in a very long time. The Vikings struggled going
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: any any Midwest East Coast team struggles going to the
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: West Coast. The time change is just different. It's weird.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: So that was kind of my logic in picking the
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Seahawks to win this game, and it's why I had
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: to win that eBay auction a few minutes ago, which
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I did successfully, and we'll get a nice little thing
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: to feature here on the set. But anyways, the point
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to make is Kevin O'Connell has this team
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: focused on the week to week. It's not about what's
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: happening in a few weeks, like, oh, we could get
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: the one seed. That's not their focus right now. And
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: it's not let's go win the super Bowl. That's not
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: their focus right now. Either. It's Okay, we just beat Seattle,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Now we got to go beat Green Bay and then
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: after that it's going to be Okay, now we got
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: to go to Detroit and we've got to beat the Lions. Okay,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: now we're either going to be playing in the wild
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: card round or we're going to be recovering for a
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: week and hosting a playoff game in the divisional round.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: That's the mindset that he's got this team in, and
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: it's that's good coaching in my opinion.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And hey, if you if you're a Vikings starter
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: on the defense right now, you're probably really hoping we
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: get that that bye week in the first round because
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: they were on the field I guess I don't know
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: the exact breakdown of who was on the field for
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: how long, but there were a couple of drives that
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: the Vikings defense they were gassed and the Seahawks just
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: stayed alive. And so yeah, if you're a defender right now,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: maybe even Harrison Smith him missing today might have been
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: a blessing in disguise because that means it's, you know,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: hopefully his injury. I think it just foots is all
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: they've said. Hopefully that's not a big deal. And even
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: if he misses, you know, next week against the Packers like,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: hopefully he can come back. And for a guy that
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: is as old as Harrison Smith and you and I
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: are having a couple of weeks off after playing most
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: of all of these games this whole season, is probably
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: not a terrible thing. I looked it up still on
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: the Vikings winning thirteen games this year and counting, there's
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: two more opportunities to win games on the regular season.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: When Kevin O'Connell was the offensive coordinator for the twenty
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: twenty one LA Rams when they won the Super Bowl,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: that Rams team won twelve games. They were twelve and
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: five in the regular season and then obviously undefeated in
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: the postseason. But Kevin O'Connell has won more games right
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: now than that Super Bowl winning team did three years ago,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: which ultimately doesn't mean a whole lot, but it's just
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: another sign that Kevin O'Connell is a positive reoccurrencetem for
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: teams that he's coaching for. And yeah, it'd be hard
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: pressed to find a lot of people that are more
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: worthy of the Coach of the Year award, not that
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: anyone else isn't worthy, but for me, it's Kevin O'Connell
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: and I'm super biased, and I know, I.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Think I started on this thread a few minutes ago
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: and then I got sidetracked. But the narrative of this
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: team has changed significantly. Because we were sitting here when
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: we made our preseason picks, this is the threat. I
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: was trying to go on, and then I got distracted
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: making our preseason picks, thinking like, well, you know, the
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Vikings will be lucky to win eight or nine or
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: ten games, and I think you had him winning ten.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I appreciated it, picked eleven, and I was delusional for that.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Even I was kind of thinking, like, this is being
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: a homer.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: But then friend of the show, Dustin Baker, went out
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: on Twitter I think it was either this last week
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: or the week before and said, yeah, people out there
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: before the season were thinking that the Vikings would only
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: win eight or nine games. I was one of those people,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: he admitted, And I was one of those people too.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I think I predicted an eight and nine season. And
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: it's just it's crazy how this narrative has changed. It
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: went from like, Okay, they won a few games, right,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: and it was a given the Vikings will probably beat
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: the Giants week one, and then they won a couple
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: of impressive games against the Niners and the Texans, and
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, maybe maybe this team is for real.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: And then they went five and oh before the bye
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: and it was like, okay, well, maybe this team is something.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Then they come out of the bye and they were
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: grounded immediately brought back to reality with two straight losses
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: to the Lions.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: And the those two losses, I think I forget somebody
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: pointed this out on kf an in the last week
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: or so, and sorry to jump in here, but those
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: two losses to the Lions, which is a tough, physical,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: hard fought game for both teams. It's just the Lions.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: They held it out and they won that game fair
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: and square. But that game against the Lions, and then
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: five days later, less than five full days after losing
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: to the Lions, the Vikings had finished another NFL game
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: and lost to Rams. Team that has been showing since
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Pukinakua and Cooper Cup have come back, they're they're a
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: force to be reckoned with. But in a span of
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: five days of Vikings, that's the only blip on their
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: their the only actual blip, measurable blip on their schedule.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: So far. They haven't had perfect games outside of that,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: But they've won every game outside of those five days.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: So all that to say it's a great season.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: What did I interrupt you say, Well, I mean, I
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: guess just continuing in the flow of the season. Yeah,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: those two games, that was rough, and it was kind
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: of like, Okay, they were brought back to earth for
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: a minute, they were flying high. They came off the
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: bye and they struggled for two straight weeks. And yes,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: they did have a short week in the second week
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: after their bye, which probably contributed to the loss against
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: the Rams, But even since then they've had some ugly games.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: That four field goal win over the Jaguars. Yeah, Sam
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Donald was arguably the worst player on the field in
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: that game, and Kevin O'Connell could have thrown in the
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: towel on this Sam Donald experiment on that day and
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: just said, Nope, you're not the guy anymore. But he's
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: stuck with the guy, and the dude has been balling out.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's played at a very high level, putting
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: up numbers better than former MVPs and MVPs that are
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: MVPs to be. I suppose we could say, like Josh Allen,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: like he's putting up really really good numbers as a quarterback,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: and it's it's been fun to watch. Even today he
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: just he looked really really good, and it's it's nice
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: to have a quarterback that you're not super stressed about.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're not.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Pulling your hair out every time he drops back and like,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, gets rid of the ball.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not to say he's perfect, and that's not what
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: you're saying. I do think sometimes it seems like he
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: holds onto the ball a little bit longer, but we're
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: staring at him. We're not staring at what he's staring at,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: so maybe there is nowhere else to go. But he
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: has seemed more calculated since that Jaguars game, which thank
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: the Lord, was a win, so it's nice to make
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: mistakes and still win. But since that Jaguars game, he
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: kind of reset himself. The next game or two, he
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: was very cautious and very limited, and it wouldn't.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Even justin Jefferson at times, because the interceptions he threw
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: in that Jacksonville game were all justin Jefferson targets. Yes,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I remember exactly.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: And so since then, you know, he started off very
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: overly cautious. And then it's kind of like he's let
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: his own leash a little bit longer, a little bit longer,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: trust everyone else a little bit more. Don't just gunsling it.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: If we want a gun slinger, we got Nick Mullens
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: on the roster. You know, an effet gunslinger. You know
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: somebody that I don't care if there's twelve defenders around him,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw it to him. But he has seemed
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: to flourish since that that dud of a Jaguars game,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: and he's gotten better and better and better. And I
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: think today, yeah, maybe today, he didn't have his most
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: passing yards of the season. Definitely didn't have five touchdowns,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: so it's not his most touchdowns of the season. But
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong. No interceptions today, no picks,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: and three touchdowns, forty six or something passing yards and
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: a couple of savvy rushing plays too. He is peaking
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: at the right time. And I'm really glad that Sam
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Donald's the quarterback for the Vikings right now. That Jaguars game,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: if JJ McCarthy had been healthy, KOC was already kind
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: of fielding questions with JJ McCarthy being hurt, Like if
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: you remember KOC after that game he gave Sam Donald
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: a game ball. I'm pretty sure he gave him a
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: game ball. Maybe it was the game after that he
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: gave him a game ball.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: I think it was after. I don't think he gave
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: him a game ball after that miserable performance against the Jags,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: but I think it was kind of a like show of.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I'm with you, buddy. Yeah. I think it was the
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Titans game, which was after that, but he was telling
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: reporters like, oh yeah, Sam, unequivocally he's he is QB
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: one right now. He is our guy. I think a
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: reporter or two kind of asked him something along the
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: lines of like, did you ever think about pulling him out?
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Did you ever think about making a switch? And KFC
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: just immediately answered those questions with no, I know he's
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: our guy. Never even put two seconds of thought into
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: pulling him out, which power to him. It's working I
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: would have pulled him in that game. I think most
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: people would have, and so far it's working out.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: And I think that's an interesting wrinkle to this whole season, too,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: is if JJ McCarthy would have been available at any point,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: especially considering that Jaguars game. I think we may have
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: seen him at some point, but we haven't, and he
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: hasn't even been an option for Kevin O'Connell. And I
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: think you and I would both agree a healthy JJ
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: McCarthy is better than a healthy Nick mullins.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, Nick Mullins, I thought you're gonna say Sam Donald,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: that's Sam Donald is an argument, Nick Mullens. Yeah, I definitely.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, in relief of Donald, if things got
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: so bad with Sam Darnald Old they had to go
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: with somebody else. JJ McCarthy would have been the next
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: guy up. It wouldn't have been Nick Mullens. Nick Mullens
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: would be right now. I think if JJ McCarthy were healthy,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: all things being the same, Sam Darnold plays exactly like
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: he has through the what is it now, sixteen fifteen
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: sixteen games? Fifteen games, fifteen games, everything being the same.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: If JJ McCarthy's healthy, he's QB two. Oh yeah, Mullins.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Is that emergency suited up but not technically active for
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: the game.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Absolutely? And Daniel Jones isn't on the roster even practice squad,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: you know, like, yep, maybe maybe.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Maybe the Daniel Jones thing. But Brett Ripion's definitely not
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: in the picture. He's gone. He's, you know, probably sitting
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: at home wondering what could have been well.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: And remember it was Jared Hall, and then Rippian was available,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: and they signed Rippian and cut Hall with the intent
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: of bringing it back to the practice squad. And Hall
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: was like, act, I'm gonna go to Seattle. But anyways,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: back to Seattle, should we just kind of talk roses
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: and thorns. Let's do it. Yeah, So I think my
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: rose was for me, even though they weren't perfect. It
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: was the resilience and gutting out of the Vikings defense.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: They spent a lot of time on the field. They
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: had a couple of plays where they thought they got
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: off the field and lo and behold out there was
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: a penalty and now you gotta go right back down.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: They'd let a pretty decent fringe playoff team score twenty
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: four points, but when it mattered the most, they ended
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: the game with a game sealing interception from a guy
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: who's THEO Jackson, who's playing a lot more right now
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: because Harrison Smith wasn't an option today, Levi Drake rodri Riguez.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: I think this might have been one of his first
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: games actually playing, and he had a couple of solid
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: run defense plays. Some guys made some plays and ultimately
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: did what they had to do on the defensive side
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: of the ball to help get the Bikings the wind.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: So they were my rose. Even though they weren't perfect,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: they stuck it and held it out and did their job.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the defense was definitely admirable today. There were times
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: where I was like ripping my hair out with that defense,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: like what why are they gaining so many yards? How
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: is dk Metcalf catching these passes? Like what on earth
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: is going on? But yeah, they played really well in
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: their Their grittiness down the stretch was for sure a
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: huge positive in this game and sealed it.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: And take nothing from the Seahawks. There were some plays,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: some passes and some catches. I think a DK Metcalf touchdown.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: There was a Jackson Smith and Jigba like middle of
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: the field dart that he caught that. Some of those
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: plays were just like you can't even be mad about
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: that because the Seahawks just perfectly performed those plays, Like
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: how do you defend that? The guy's in the right spot,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: why did it even throw that ball? It worked out
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: for the Seahawks, but like, holy cow, there were some
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: of those that were hair pulling worthy.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Very early in the game, Dallas Turner had his first
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: interception of his career. Yes, that was pretty awesome, and
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: that Mattellis was providing the pressure.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: You would think it would be the opposite, right, You
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: would think Dallas Turner would put the pressure on the
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: quarterback and Mattellis would make the interception. But no, it
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: was the opposite, which was cool.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: And I texted you. I was like, I was sad
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: for a tenth of a second because Mattelis didn't get
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: the sad, and then I was really happy because somebody
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: got an interception. Loan behold it was Dallas Turner. Ow.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Ben Lever made a really good point about that, and
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I just completely lost it. I think, oh about Dallas
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Turner on that play. Dallas Turner is a pass rusher.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: He goes forward. Yeah, he supposed to drop back. I
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: watched the same video and Ben Leaver said like, yeah,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: he went back.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: And in this game and the Brian Flores scheme, you
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: have to be prepared to do both. And I think
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: that proves how much he's matured. You know, we were
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: all kind of, you know, a myth earlier in the season,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: like where's Dallas Turner? How come he's not been playing
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: a whole lot? And I think he's just he's needed
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: some time to develop. I think he's needed some time
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: to really figure out this Brian Flores system and figure
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: out how to play in it. And I think Brian
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Flores has recognized that too, like, yeah, he's just young
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: and green and inexperienced, and we'll get him in there.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: He's a good player. They wouldn't have drafted him so
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: high if Brian Flores didn't think he was starter worthy.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: But it's not. He's not this, you know. Just throw
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: him out there and let him have every snap on defense,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: you know. And and so I think he's matured really well,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: kind of like a fine wine. He's developed over time,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: and I think he's only going to get better.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. It's because of that, mostly among a
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: lot of other things, but mostly because of the young
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: guys developing. I really hope Brian Flores sticks around for
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: at least one more year.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I think that's it's kind of an underrated storyline for
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: this Vikings team right now, because there's you know, obviously
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: the quarterback situation. Are they going to stick with Sam Darnold,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: which he's definitely made a case for, like, oh, he's
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: getting paid, bring him back, and bring You're gonna get
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: paid wherever he goes. But I think he's made a
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: case to come back to the Vikings for sure, as
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I'm wearing my Sammy d shirt. But and there's a
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: ton of other players that are going to be free
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: agents next year, like half the defense is going to
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: be a free agent next year. So there's a bunch
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: of storylines circling around that. I think this week the
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: biggest storyline was cam Byam Oh. Yeah, I'm like, oh,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: they failed to seal up a big extension with him
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: over the offseason, so he's one of the biggest question marks.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: He's been playing really well, and he has and it's
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: not just about his you know, choreographed celebrations, it's about
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: how well he's been playing. And yeah, he definitely deserves
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: a look, Yeah, for sure, absolutely, And if the Vikings
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: can make it work, if Quacy can make it work
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: in the in the budget, you got to bring a
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: guy like him back, for sure. But I think Brian
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Flores is definitely one of those like subliminal storylines like
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I even read an article today about head coaching vacancies
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: and Brian Flora's name was kind of absent in the article,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: like he's not necessarily this like top candidate for these
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: available head coaching jobs in the NFL.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think his his name. I don't
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: think he's going to get a head coaching job. Maybe interviews,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: but I don't think he'll get an offer or a
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: job until his legal stuff against the league is result
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: cleared up. It doesn't even have to be like, oh,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: he has to lose for him to still get a job.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: I think they don't, these owners, they don't really care
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: about that. It's like just okay, it's more about ego
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: and then do I have to cut a check and
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: then business after that. And he's obviously a really good coach,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I don't think. I think if his legal
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: stuff is still going on, he'll be the Vikings defensive
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: coordinator for as long as both sides want that to
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: be the case, which hopefully is at least one more season,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: hopefully long term.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: So my rose for this game is justin Jefferson. JJ
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: had his best game of the season. I think yardage wise. Anyways,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: it's close, but yeah, probably, I mean, definitely, in the
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: last five games he's got more yards than he has.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: He kind of peaked against the Falcons several weeks ago
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: with one hundred and thirty two yards.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: That was a great game.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold threw five touchdowns, two of them to JJ,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: the other three to Jordan Addison. But today was kind
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: of the Justin Jefferson game in terms of the Vikings offense.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: He scored two touchdowns. He scored one early to really
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: kind of assert the Vikings dominance in the game, and
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: then he sealed the game. I mean, he was the
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: game winning touchdown at the end. Yeah, how about that
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: that play?
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: That was beautiful, the microcosm of the whole game in
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: that play and it was awesome. Yeah. But anyways, but.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: He's not just a touchdown machine. I guess that's the
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: rose and the positive that I'm really trying to draw
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: out of this. He had one hundred and forty four
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: yards on thirteen targets ten catches. It was just a
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: phenomenal performance, arguably his best, and the Seahawks' secondary isn't
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: necessarily anything to write home about.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's not.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Like they're the league's best, but there were I don't know,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: there were some moments there where it seemed like maybe
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: they kind of got the best of Sam Donald and
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: the Vikings and they made it tough down the stretch.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. Justin Jefferson, it was just nice
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: to see him be front and center for once. It
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: was nice to see him not play second fiddle to
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Jordan Addison because he's not the second fiddle to Jordan
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Addison on this team. And I think everybody knows it.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: KOC knows it, Sam Donald knows it, and even Justin
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Jefferson knows it, and he's acknowledged it in his press conferences.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Opposing teams have two options. Throw it to everybody else,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: or throw it to me. Or defend everybody else or
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: defend me. I guess is what defending teams have to do.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: And I think in moments today they chose to defend
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: everybody else instead of Justin Jefferson. That opened him up
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: and he had a really, really good day and that
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: pushed this offense where it needed to be in in
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: those key clutch moments at the end of the game
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: to get that game sealing touchdown.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: So yeah, absolutely, Yeah, Justin Jefferson, NFL superstar, maybe the
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: best player on the vikings, And I don't know if
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: you can argue really anybody else. Yeah, he's I can't
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: argue with that being your rose thorns for me, just
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: the offense had their their traditional low points. There they
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: went to sleep for a little while. Sometimes there were
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: big there were there were a few big points of
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: the game where they needed a few yards, or they
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: needed a first down, or they needed to close the
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: game away, and they just didn't. They kind of fell
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: asleep for a little while. And then at the end
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: they they didn't seal the game away by you know,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: getting seven yards for a first down, which would have
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: let them kneel out the rest of the clock. Ultimately,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: they gave the ball back and the defense yet again
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: had to save the day and get another turnover to
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: win the game. The offense, I still think is a
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: net positive. I still think it's good. We've basically been
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: raving about offensive players this whole podcast today. But they're
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: frustrating at times because it feels like they're this like,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: you know, this beautiful race car that sometimes just runs
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: out of gas and you can't do anything if you've
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: run out of gas. And that's just crazy because they're
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: a perfectly tuned race car that could do the world,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: and it's like they don't care sometimes.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Like so that's my biggest thorn is that they disappear
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: and I don't know that it's they don't care. Yeah,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: that's kind of how we perceive it as fans when
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: we're watching, Like, don't you guys, you know, can't you
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: guys just you know, do a little better, Kevin O'Connell,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: can't you just call a better play in that situation.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: I think I texted you at one point today while
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: we were watching the game, like, that's not the play
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: call right there, that's a bad play call. Call a
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: better play. You have to have a better play in
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: your bag for that scenario. I don't even remember what
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: the scenario was, but it was just like, that's that's
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: not the play and it didn't result in a first
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: down and it resulted in the Vikings punt and that
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: ended the drive. So I'm not so delusional to think
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: that the Vikings are gonna score on every single possession.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: But this team they can, They're capable. I think the
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: biggest weakness and this is gonna be my thorn is
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: this offensive line. It's been kind of a thorn in
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: the side of Vikings fans and the team in general
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: all season long. I think it's the weakest aspect of
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: the Vikings game. And I think it starts in the
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: middle with Garrett Bradbury. And that's not to you know,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: throw any shade on the man himself. I think he's
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: a great guy, but he's he's undersized and he's bullied
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: a lot. He gets push around a lot. You got
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: to be a little bigger and you got to be
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: a little more stout in that position. You have to
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: hold your ground. You can't just get pushed over all
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: the time. And to compound that problem, you're missing an
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: all pro I don't even know how many millions of
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: dollars his contract was over one hundred Christian Darisaw on
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: the left side, like you're missing him as well. And
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Cam Robinson has been a great acquisition for this team.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Quasi really demonstrated his ability to kind of play the
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: market and find an adequate replacement for him. But he's
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: not the same. Yeah, he had a few penalties. He's
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: had several penalties over the last several weeks, and he's
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: just he's not the same presence. He's not that towering
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: left tackle presence that's going to protect your quarterbacks fly
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: side that Christian Darisaw is. So I'm grateful for Cam
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Robinson the fact that he's wearing purple right now. I
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: don't know what his future looks like after this year,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: if Christian Darisaw is healthy going into next season, But
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: this offensive line is struggling. Brian O'Neill even kind of
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: had a few moments.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: A couple of weird plays a false start that he
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: kind of flinched like six times. I texted you, I
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: was like, how many times is Brian O'Neil going to
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: fall start on the same play?
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: But I mean we both agree Brian O'Neill is one
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: of the best right tackles in football. But yeah, even
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: nobody's perfect. And yeah, that offensive line that I think
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Cam Robinson today might have been his worst game as
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: a Viking, which is crazy because his first game of
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: the Viking was like perfect.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: It's so good.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: He was, you know, one hundred percent for like the
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: first two or three games. And he's still really good,
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: and I'm he's still better than probably is it David
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Questenberry Questenberry, who is a very fine backup in his
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: own right, He's still better than a regular starting question
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Barry would be. But yeah, Cam Robinson, it seems like
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: he's showing some cracks a little bit. They did making
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: a change on the interior with Evan Ingram or ed
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Ingram getting swapped out for Dalton Reisner, which I don't know.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, I haven't paid enough attention to know, but
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: is that not working out as well as they thought
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: they would? Garrett Bradbury, like you said, he's always been
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: bullied around because he's not the behemoth of a center
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: that a lot of guys are. Yeah. The nice thing
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: is Sam Donald and the skill players seem to be
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: working around that. And the offensive line plays I think
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: good enough. It's just some plays they're like, oh my gosh,
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald just got the ball and there's already two
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: defenders in his face.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: And I think the silver lining too is Sam Donald
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: specifically plays well under pressure. He's one of the better
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league per year, not his whole career,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah this year, perhaps the best quarterback this
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: season under pressure when he's been blitzed. So that's encouraging,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: but it's still frustrating to watch as a fan when
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: you're like, he's got point zero five seconds to do
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: something and then he's just he's in the dirt. Like
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: you guys have to you have to protect, you have
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: to protect for that guy. And Reisner comes in being
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: touted as a pass protection guy. And I wonder if
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: I wondered early on if they would kind of flip
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: fly back and forth between ed Ingram and Dalton Reisner,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: you know, run blocking past protection, you know, if they
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: would kind of just interchange those guys, But it hasn't
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: seemed that way.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Reisner's been the guy.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: To the right of Garrett Bradbury and there really hasn't
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: been any question about it. So but yeah, I think
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: the offensive line. If there was a weak point on
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: this team, it's that And if there was a way
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: that the Vikings could improve as a team, it's that
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: unit right there. They have to play better, I think,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: especially if they're going to make this push in the playoffs.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, all right, game balls, what do you what do
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: you think if we do if we kind of do
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: this together like you do offense, I'll do defense and
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: then I'm sure we could both agree on one special
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: teams game ball. What do you think about that? Sure?
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: All right, so you want me to do offense or you,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: I guess it doesn't matter if you If you got
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: a good one for any of it, go for it.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: I'll cheat and just do two for offense, okay, because
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: I mean it takes two to tango. Sure, and you're
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: talking about receiving yards. Somebody has to throw the ball
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: to the guy catching all the all the passes. So
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give him to Sam Darnold and Justin
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Jefferson on offense. And I think they both got game balls, and.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't see any of the post games, so.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: That could be wrong. I know Justin Jefferson did from KOC,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: but it takes a guy to throw those balls to
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: him in order. Now that I'm saying that, I know
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: for a fact Sam dar got it. He got the
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: last one and it was the most emphatic of the
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: game balls from KOC. But yeah, Sam Darnold has played really,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: really well in tough situations, in those clutch situations, I'm
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: excited to see how he plays against these two divisional rivals,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: the Packers and the Lions to close out the season
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: knowing that there's more than just the playoffs on the line.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Now it's seating and Justin Jefferson, Yeah, we've kind of
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: been I've probably been complaining about him this season a
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: little bit, not that he's been playing bad, but just
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: that he's been covered so much that the Vikings haven't
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: been able to incorporate him into the game plan as much.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: So to see him affect the game like he did
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: today with two touchdowns and one hundred and forty four yards,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: that was special. And that's the type of player that
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: I know him to be, and I'm excited about what's
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: going to happen in the next couple of weeks.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and I kind of have a little bit
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: of a hot take on Justin Jefferson. I think after
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: today and really the last handful of weeks where he's
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: been doing phenomenal teams, they're just going to decide they're
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: going to say, Okay, I think we're better off putting
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: a lot of resources towards him and then hoping the
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: rest of the other guys just get covered good enough
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: to not break the game. I think he won't have
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: too many there's only two games left in the regular season.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to have another one hundred
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: yard game. He might not have another touchdown. I just
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: think the Packers and the Lions are both going to
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: sell out for this guy and hope that the other
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: guys don't beat him. But I think it's it's more
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: likely that both TJ. Hockinson and Jordan Addison both have
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: a single game with one hundred yards each than Justin
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Jefferson getting enough space in enough room to get really
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: much going. Think he has earned the right to be
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: shut down. And I think defenses are gonna hurt themselves,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: but they're gonna do everything they can to stop Justin Jefferson.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: All Right, that is a hot take, and I might
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: be wrong. That's okay, But I was right about an
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: eleven one seasons. You're kind of right. They won more
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: than I was still wrong. Now I was super homer
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: and optimistic, but I was still wrong. We need to
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: try this other beer.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're both out, and I'm not gonna pour mine
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: into this mug because it's been affected by the other
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: really great beer that we've already tried. So I'm gonna
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: put that off to the side. But The other beer
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: that we were given by river Ridge is this Lucky
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Catch Irish red Ale. Okay, and you'll notice the cans
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: are the same. That's because they can everything fresh for us.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: So this was canned two.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Weeks ago, and I watched them put the beer into
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: the can, heal the can with the top, and now
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: it's here for us to try.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: So yeah, and they wrote right on there Lucky Catch
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Irish red It says five percent. So I'm really excited
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: for this one too.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard to beat that Vanilla Porter. That
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Vanilla Porter is so good. And I think when we're
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: there in a few weeks in January, I will definitely
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: be having one of those my first one, and I
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: think you will too. Yeah, but this one's pretty good too,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: all right, school school, all right. So we've talked a
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: little bit about offensive game balls. Who's your defensive game ball?
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: So I really think there could be a couple, but
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: I am only going to give one. I think Andrew
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: van gingkle he we could we could give probably four
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: or five game balls. I don't know how many defenders
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: got game balls from KOC today, but at least for
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: the first portion of the game, and really kind of
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: consistently throughout the game. Andrew Van Ginkle was everywhere. I
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: think he had two sacks today. He's just a monster.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: He joined Jonathan Gernard in the ten sack club for
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: the season, which I feel like hasn't happened very often
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: for one team to have two guys have ten or
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: more sacks. I think I saw a stat that like
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: he's the first player since like nineteen eighty two or
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: something to have ten plus sacks and two or more
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: pick sixes, which again, you're talking about just a handful
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: of plays throughout the whole season. But you don't get
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: those those stats without being everywhere on every play of
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: every game. So he easily, probably throughout the season could
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: have had another ten plus sacks. It's just you know,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: you don't get them all. But today he was everywhere.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: For me, he he played, He's been playing great all season,
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: and I think he very much deserved a game ball
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: from today, And when I watch back, I really hope
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Koc gave him one.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: I think he did. I can't remember I watched it,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: but I was a little more focused on a few
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: other players. But man, yeah, this defense has proven that
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: they will keep this Vikings team in games, regardless of
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: the circumstances. They will keep this team in games, and
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: there are plenty of players to do it. You've got
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Van Ginkle, but you've also got Grenard. You've got Blake Cashman,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: who the only two games the Vikings have lost were
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: the two games he missed due to injury. You've got
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: the secondary with Bynum and Murphy and Shaq Griffin and
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Mattelis and Stefan.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: I think he had a kind of overall rough.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Game he did. He showed maybe his age a little
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: bit against some younger and faster receivers, especially that one
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: play on I think it was on Metcalf where he
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: got called didn't you get called for a.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: P I It was either a holding or a past
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: interference and there was one that he got called for
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: it and I think it was kind of BS but.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: It was questionable for sure. But anyways, Gilmore definitely looked
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: on the older edge of things for a quarterback in
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: the National Football League. But I'm still glad he's a Viking.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: He's he's played really really well this season, and I
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: don't know if he was just a little, you know,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: cautious with the hamstring that he's been dealing with or what.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: But the list could go on right on defense. I
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: mean we haven't even mentioned the guys up front, Jerry
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Tillery and Harrison Phillips. And I think they missed Jalen
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Redman as a presence up front.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Which is crazy. That's awesome.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, undrafted guy right who's kind of made
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: an impact. There's just there's no end to the guys
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: that you could name on defense. It's like it's just
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: like one guy after another. Yeah, and they've just proven
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: again and again and again. Even today when they were
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: gassed and tired and they could have just you know,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: phoned it in and you know, let the Seahawks win
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: a close one. They didn't. And I think that's a
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: testament to Brian Flores as a coach, it's a testament
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: to Kevin O'Connell as the head coach of this team,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: and it's a testament to every single one of those
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: guys that goes out there and puts their body on
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: the line to defend the football for this team.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, Yeah, and no less THEO Jackson getting that
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: that game ceiling interception at the end, that was wonderful.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: I was convinced the Seahawks were going to march down
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: and at least kick a field goal and send it
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: to overtime or something. But yeah, it overall was a
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: great game. I think the defense led the way, and
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold and Justin Jefferson both gutted it out enough
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: to make a beautiful easy play and iced the game
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: a little bit. Special Teams game ball. I think there's
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: one clear cut guy of the three, really, but please
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong. I think Ryan Wright what
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: won the game ball. As the three, they all looked great, well.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Record he made one field goal, correct, and then all
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: of the extra points.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's correct, but I'll double check.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: But Ryan Wright was called on the most of anybody.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: Maybe Record had two field goals. Ryan Wright was called
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: on the most two field goals, but he made both
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: of them. Yeah, and he punted really well. There was
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: one point the Vikings had a disappointing three and out
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: and I was thinking, yeah, that was awful, but oh,
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: at least Ryan right punted the ball and got him
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: inside the twenty.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: You texted me that I was mad. I was like, ah, yeah,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: this sucks, and You're like, well, at least he punted
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: it inside the twenty and I was still a little
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: salty after whatever. It doesn't still punk, but yeah, he
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: had over three hundred yards punting, which you don't want
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: to be in a situation where your punter's.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: Punting that much.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's good to know that you got a
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: guy like that that can help you flip field position
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: and that can help you win games when you need
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: it and on the road in the rain like this,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: the Vikings needed a guy like him. Absolutely think he
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: definitely deserves that special team game ball.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: It's kind of funny because I was listening to Kfaan's
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: fan line after the Bears game last week and somebody
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: called in and they asked something about punting. Oh, like
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: it was after it was because Ryan Wright got that
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: it was a block punt, so it was a clean play.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: But he got rocked in the Bears game and he,
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: I guess, could have been better in that game. But
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: somebody called in and asked, like, hey, should we be concerned,
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: Like there's other punters that have way better stats than him.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: And Ron Johnson, the former Gopher, and I think he
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: played for the Ravens, bounced around a little bit in
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: the league. He is on that kfan fan line, and
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: he kind of brought up that, like, yeah, the only
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: stats you really see from punters are like their average
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: distance and then also like how many touchbacks they get.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: But that average distance doesn't really take into account like
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: if it was a short field punt, like if they
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: you can only get a long punt if you're way back,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: you know. And he did finish that that answer by saying,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure, Ryan Wright, he's proven he can if
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: you're kind of you know, back in your own side
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: of the field, he can't punt a ball pretty deep.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: And he proved that today. He had that at least
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: that one in the that was inside the twenty and
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: the sixty three yard punt, Yeah, is long today. That's
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: not easy because you also, like punts can be returned too,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: and that one I think bounced out abound. Yeah for me,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Ryan Wright. Clear cut special teams game ball for the
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Vikings today.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: Honorable mention Will Rekord, just coming off of injury, his
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: second game back, knocking through every kick, both field goals
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: that he attempted in all three extra points that he attempted.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: He scored nine points for the Vikings. Without him, the
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: Vikings lose this game. So yeah, honorable mention to will Record,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: but I definitely agree with you. Well sorry, Ryan Wright
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: gets the game ball for sure. I want to interject here,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: and I want to add a new segment, okay to
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: what we've been doing here, and maybe this will be
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: a one off thing, or maybe this will become a
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: regular thing. But I was sipping my coffee this morning
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: scroll on Twitter, which I do pretty much.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Daily, you know.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm waking up in the morning, and I came
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: across a tweet that was pretty provocative, pretty like like
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: I found myself in just in my own head arguing
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: with the author of this tweet, like I got on
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: my got on my seabox a little bit. Okay, So
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: I figured we could try this out, and you know,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: next week you can bring in a tweet where you're like, yeah,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: I think I've got a strong case to argue against this,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: all right, But I'm gonna argue against this one today,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: and we'll put this tweet up here on the screen,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: and I'll if you're just listening, I'll describe the tweet
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: for you so you have some context here. But I'm
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: gonna just describe the tweet and we'll show it, of
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: course for those that are watching. And then I'm gonna
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: make a case against this tweet.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's hear it.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: So this was a tweet by Brad Holmes Bulge.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, a very smart sounding turnor handle here.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, never seen anything by by him before, but who knows,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: it could be pretty knowledgeable Twitter user X user sure,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Anyways, he posted an image. Okay, let
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: me paint you a picture of the image. The image
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: has a grid of the four NFC North teams Lions, Vikings, Packers, Bears,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: and the title of the image is wins versus teams
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: with a winning record five hundred are better. Okay, so
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: it has this was I think before all of the
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: weekend games. So the Vikings games this week and the
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: Lions game the other day. Yeah, so I think the
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: lines are up to eight wins now. The image says seven.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: The Vikings are up to four wins now because they
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: just beat the Seahawks. Were the image says three. The
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: Packers are at four wins and we'll stay there right Yeah.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: I think who do they play the Saints tomorrow?
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: They play the Saints tomorrow night. So even if they win,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: it won't be a win over a team over five hundred.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: And the Bears lost to the Lions today, so the
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: Bears stay at one. So it says wins versus team
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: with the winning record. And I get that the image
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: is a little outdated.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, by a couple of days, but yeah.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: But I still saw it today and the tweet the
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: words that this user chose to add to this image,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: and he could have this person could have made this
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: image himself. Yeah.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know if this is accurate. I'm not saying
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: it's wrong. I just don't know.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: The tweet though, was not all twelve win teams are
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: built to the same hashtag one pride, okay, and I
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: have a little bit of an issue. And of course, both.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: The Lions and Vikings are thirteen win teams right now.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, so the Lions and the Vikings are now both
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: thirteen win teams. When this was posted, I think they
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: were both twelve win So again, a little outdated, but
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: I think still relevant. And this seems like a dig
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: at the Vikings. Oh absolutely, It's a Lions fan digging
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: at the Vikings for being quote unquote fraudulent. It's a
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: dig at the Vikings for being fake, for being not
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: a real good team because they haven't beat anybody yet.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: And I think that's been the narrative, at least in
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: some of the underlying conversations around the NFL, and I
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: think it may be the reason why the major media
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: platforms aren't really talking about the Vikings. But I would
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: like to pose a counter argument. So twelve win teams,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: we're going to compare them. Let's compare this. We'll say
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: now thirteen wins, because both the Lions and the Vikings
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: have thirteen wins. At what cost did this Lions team
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: get those thirteen wins? Because let's not forget this Lions
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: team is really banged up right now, right like, this
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: Lions team has half their defense on IR. I think
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: this Lions team in general has the most number of
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: players on IR potentially across the league. And I could
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: be misquoting that, but I'm pretty sure I'm pretty close
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: on that.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: I think I'm near.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: Accurate on that that they have the most players on
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: IR by a little bit of a margin. And so
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: I think this Vikings team, with thirteen wins going into
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: the final two games of the season is in a
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: much better position and I would argue against Brad Holmes Bulge,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: this Vikings team is built differently than the Lions thirteen
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: win team. Yeah, they're built differently because they're healthier and
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: they're prepared to win these last two games hopefully, yeah,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: and win some games in the playoffs, whereas the Lions
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: are going to struggle the Lions. The Lions beat the
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: Bears today. I'm sure you watched that game.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: I did. Yeah. The Bears are a worthless organization this year.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Sorry, yeah, sorry, Forest, And there's there's a reason why
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: the Bears have only won one game against the team
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: over five hundred. But I don't know. The Lions, I
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: think are going to struggle against some really good teams.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: Who careful with those two words Lions and struggle. You
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: you got ripped apart on TikTok for those two words.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: But mind you, that was a thirty one to twenty
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: eight Lions.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: Victory thirty one twenty nine, thirty one twenty nine. See
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: even I was wrong with that.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: It was closer than I remember it being, and there
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: improves my point.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: The Vikings held the Lions to one of the closest
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: margins of victory that they've had all season long. They've
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: blown out a lot of opponents. They've put up a
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: few fifty burgers and a few forty burgers on teams. Sure,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: I'll give you guys that, but the Vikings held you
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: to a three point win, and the Lions are not
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: nearly as healthy as the Vikings right now. The Vikings
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: are very healthy. You got Gilmour back today. Granted he
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: didn't look great, but he played okay, and it was
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: good to see him back out there. I think you
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: get Harrison Smith back out there again to end the season,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: even if he sits out the Packers game. You get
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: him back out there against the Lions in Week eighteen.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: I think that's a good sign for this team.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: Harrison Smith's a coach on the field. Yeah, He's a
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: guy that people trust to do his job and will
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: trust that. If Harrison Smith walks up and says you
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: need to scooch over here, your immediate reaction is, yes,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: you know what you're talking about, Like, oh, yeah, I
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: did forget that, Like, yeah, you're correct on that point.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: So all of that to say, I tend to push
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: back on this homer take from Lions fan Brad Holmes
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: bulge that not all teams, not all twelve when now
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: thirteen win teams are built different. Obviously this is a
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: bias take from a Lions fan. I'm gonna flip the
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: script and say, yeah, you're right, Not all thirteen win
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: teams are built different. The Vikings are bill different, and
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: I think they're built differently enough to win down the stretch.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and at this point both the Lions and Vikings
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: could either of them could lose out and they're already
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: guaranteed playoff spots. And we saw with twenty twenty two.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Doesn't matter what your regular season looks like, it doesn't
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: matter at all. All it takes is one Kirk Cousins
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: dump off to TJ. Howkinson short of the sticks and
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: your team loses to the Giants and Daniel Jones gets
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of dollars. So, yeah, I agree with you.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Not all twelve plus win teams are built the same.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: But we'll see what happens in the playoffs. And notoriously,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: the teams that do well in the playoffs are well coached,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: which both the Lions and Vikings are. They are battle tested,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: which both the Lions and Vikings are, and they're healthy,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: which the Vikings are. And the Lions. Yeah, they haven't
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: lost Jared Goff, they haven't lost everybody on their team.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: But you can only lose so many guys until it
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: starts affecting you. And the Lions. I don't know who
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: they play next week. The Niners, which they're a good team.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: They're not what they were in previous years and they're
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: not as good as they were last year, but they're
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: still good team who's well coached and injury riddled. But
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: they'll probably beat the ninerss next week. But the Vikings
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: are a good team, They're a tough team, and I
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: guarantee you the Lions coaches they're thinking long and hard
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: about the Vikings, just like the Vikings coaches are thinking
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: long and hard about the Lions. But this is not
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: the game that Lions. The delusional Lions fans, which are
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: not all of them, but this is not the game
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: that delusional Lions fans think it will be. It'll be exciting.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: I do want to circle back around to Brian Flores
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: for just a second, because we talked briefly about how
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: he could be a head coaching candidate next year. I
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: think something really encouraging for Vikings fans as I don't
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: think this guy is shopping the market actively. Like maybe, sure,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: maybe he has a notepad in his office at TCO,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: or he's got the available teams the Bears, the Saints,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: the Jets. I think that's it. Maybe he's got a
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: little pros and cons list going at his desk, But
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's like, I don't think he's shopping
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: the market right now. I don't think he's fielding phone
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: calls or sitting on FaceTime with execs from these teams.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: I think he's focused on week to week beating teams
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: that are out there. I think he's focused on his
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: meetings with Kevin O'Connell. I think he's focused on getting
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: his players healthy, Harrison Smith and plenty of others. I
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: don't feel like he's the guy that's just going to
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: abandon ship and say, well, good luck down the stretch, guys.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna start looking ahead towards what's next for me. Yeah. So,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: I think that's really encouraging for this Vikings team too,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: and I'm excited. I think he could be back. I
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: think so too the Vikings in the future.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: A coach that I don't think will be back with
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: his current team next year, just because he'll get so
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: many offers as Ben Johnson, the offensive coordinator for the Lions.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: And I give all of the credit for the Lions, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: ninety percent of the credit for the Lions being so
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: successful to Ben Johnson and his prowess as an elite
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  Speaker 2: play caller and an elite offensive coordinator, somebody who will
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: be a head coach in the league, whether it's this
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: coming year or in the future. He gets most of
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: the credit. And I think it's also the perfect combination
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: of him and the Lions head coach who doesn't give
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: an f who will go for it turing fourth and
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: thirty with the ball on their own fifteen yard line
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: if he feels like his team can make it. I
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: think when you have an extreme and take nothing away
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: from Dan Campbell, he seems like a great guy and
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: a great coach in his own right, but I think
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: you give him a great coached offense and a good
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: coach defense, and just an unwavering confidence and the balls
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: to make a good decision or a ballsy decision. I
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: think that's where you're seeing the Lions blow people out
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: and score fifty points because they don't care, and they're
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: coached well, and they just use what they got and
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: they're not trying to make friends.
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  Speaker 1: So you saw today with the Lions against the Pairs.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: They were up by at least two touchdowns, I think,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: and they made that ridiculous fake fumble toss. Jared Goff
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: fakes it to Jamiir Gibbs and Gibbs falls down. Goff
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: fakes like he's falling down, and then he just throws
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: a nice little arc to Samuel Laporta for an easy touchdown,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: and then he and coach are on the sideline looking
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: at the iPad's like, hey, did you see that? That
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: was pretty awesome? Right, Like it's like and I think
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: we both were, like, that's so frustrating.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: It's just so I texted you instead. I hate the Lions.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: It's so irritating.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: But I really think the Lions will feel it deeply
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: and it will alter their organization. When Ben Johnson gets
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: the head coaching job. He's earning agreed well.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: And I think Dan Campbell's more of a defensive minded
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: coach anyways, So to have that gap on the offensive
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: side of the ball, it's gonna have to be filled
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: by somebody, and yep, I don't know that it's gonna
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: be Dan Campbell himself. I don't think he's really got
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: that skill set, so he's gonna have to find somebody
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: else to compliment him. And I don't know that anybody
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: available in the league will match up with him as
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: well as Ben Johnson as yep.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: So all right, green Bay next week, final two games
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: of the season yet, green Bay in Minnesota, and then
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: the Vikings travel to Detroit. Let's talk about green Bay.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: I don't really think the Vikings struggle with the Packers.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I mean green Bay talk about another
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: well coached team. As much as I hate to say it,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: their current quarterback is good. I don't think he's Aaron
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: Rodgers level at least yet. I don't think he's Brett
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: FIV level at least yet. But Jordan Love he has
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: proven without beyond a shadow of a doubt that he
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: is a good quarterback, at least a Pro Bowl level quarterback,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: which is really frustrating. It'd be nice for the Packers
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: to have a decade or two or they're just shopping
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: for a quarterback every five minutes. But oh well, that's
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: just not the way it is. I think the Packers
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: are a good team. We'll see they seem to be
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: getting lucky against the Saints tomorrow. This will probably be
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: out before the Monday night football game should be, but
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: you may be listening to this after the Packers play
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: the Saints, and you'll know what happens in that game
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: before we do. But already, the Saints I think, as
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: of even right now, they've ruled out a few key
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: players Derek Carr and Alvin Kamara and a couple other
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: key players, which I mean Packers can only play who's
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: on the other side of the ball. But that seems
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: pretty lucky for the Packers. The Vikings hosting the Packers.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: I still think the Vikings are a better team than
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: Green Bay, but it's hard to beat a team twice.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: And if you remember, in that first Vikings Packers game,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: the Vikings started what seemed like a very embarrassing blowout.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: Almost embarrassing for the Vikings too, because like, like, I
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: feel bad for beating a team this bad. And then
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: give the Packers credit. They came back and they almost
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: beat the Vikings that game, but the Vikings held out
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: and won. It was one of their thirteen wins this year.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: It's too early, but what do you think will happen
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: in this game?
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: I will say a key to victory is the Vikings
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: are touted as one of the better run defenses in
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: the league. They didn't necessarily look like it today against
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: Yoks didn't even they abandoned the run. They did abandon
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: the run. I agree so are the Vikings too.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: But early on though, the Seahawks were kind of running
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: on this team, and I feel like that's been the
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: case the last couple of games and teams have found
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: some holes. I think the key to curbing the Packers
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: is going to be stopping Josh Jacobs. I think if
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs doesn't have anywhere to go, and it's going
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: to be up the middle, but it's also going to
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: be out on the outside, because I think Josh Jacobs
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: is that kind of back that can he can get
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: the ball and he can make that decision. I can.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: I've got a lane going up the middle. I have
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: also got an opportunity to go to the left or
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: the right, depending on what play is called and what
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: protection and all that. You got to stop Josh Jacobs,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: I think if you stop Josh Jacobs and if you
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: force Jordan Love to throw the ball a whole lot,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: I think the Vikings win this game pretty easily. And
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: I think this Vikings team is going to come in
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: hungry for this win against the Packers. It's their last
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: home game of the season. It's against the Packers, of
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: all teams, a team that this team hates. I hate
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: the Packers. I've trained my kids to hate the Packers.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: Mostly me too, by the way, my kids, Yeah, they
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: don't like Green and Gold.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's perfect, that's the way it should be.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: I think if they can stop Josh Jacobs, I really
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: don't think the Packers have a whole lot of an
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: offense outside of their run game. Yeah, Jordan Love can
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: kind of scramble outside the pocket and make a few
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: plays here and there, but it's not going to be
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: enough to overcome this Vikings defense. And this Vikings defense,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: the secondary has proven that it can cover these guys.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: It can cover Romeo Dobbs. He's been really quiet this year.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: Christian Watson has had his moments, but he's been relatively
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: quiet compared to last year. I just don't know that
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: there are a ton of other weapons on this Packers
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: team that are gonna just go out there and flex
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: their muscle on this Vikings defense. Ye, so that's my take.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: I think you stopped the run first and foremost, everything
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: else will take care of itself. I think the Vikings
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: win pretty well. I think it's a let's say it's
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: a thirty five to twenty one, a fairy in the
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: Vikings favor.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, the last time you predicted that score
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: I think was ahead of the Falcons game, and you
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: were wrong, much like I was wrong about the Vikings
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: win total this season in a good way. The Vikings
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: scored more than that.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: So yeah, the Vikings won forty two to twenty one
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: in that game.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: Let's hope you're right. I'm going to go a different direction.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: I think this season has been long. I think there's
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: a non zero percent chance the Vikings don't win another
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: game this regular season, and I think beating one team
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: twice is very difficult, especially if they're not a team
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: named the Bears. I think the Vikings struggle mostly internally.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: I think some injuries may pop up this week. Harrison
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: Smith may miss another week. I don't know anything about
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: that other than it said foot and that he was out,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: although he did travel and they didn't make that decision
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: on whether or not he'd play until this morning. I
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: think the Vikings have at least one more loss in them.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: I think it comes against the Lie or the Packers here.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be like fourteen to twenty eight.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, all right, well that actually lines up with
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: our preseason picks.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: Really, I didn't know that.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you picked the Vikings to lose this game against
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: the Packers preseason, and I picked them to win. So
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: we're sticking with our guns here in this week seventeen matchup. Yeah,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: we'll see what happens, all right. I'm confident. I feel
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: like this Vikings team. I wouldn't be surprised if this
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: Vikings team wins out, and they definitely could. It's that
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: one seed. I think they're motivated. I think they know
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: what's at stake, and I think I've already said this
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: and I saw this in a tweet somewhere to the
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: last week or week and a half. This team is grounded.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: They're not like, this team isn't playing for that one seed.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: They didn't play for the one seed today. They played
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: to win today and they're not going to play for
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: the one seed against the Packers. They're going to play
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: to win against the Packers. And they're not going to
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: play for the one seed against the Lions. They're going
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: to play to win against the Lions. That is their mindset.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: That's how Kevin O'Connell is leading this team. I love
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: that about this team. I think that's going to be
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: the key to success down the stretch here in these
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: last few games, and it's going to be the key
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: to success into the playoffs.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: Hope you're right. I don't think I don't. I'm not
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: sitting here thinking the Evans an idiot, You're totally wrong.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: I hope you're right. Maybe I'm just protecting myself and
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: that's okay too. We're Vikings fans. We need to protect ourselves.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Sometimes they almost lost to the Seahawks today. What
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: did you think of the Irish red Ale? Like you
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: catch Frine is gone? Yeah, mine's not quite gone yet.
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  Speaker 1: It was delicious.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: I think the Manila Porter was slightly better, but that's
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: not saying not saying anything bad about this, this Irish
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  Speaker 2: red This is very delicious. Both of these beers from
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: River Ridge Brewing were delicious. Yes they were free, but
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: they didn't pay us for our opinions. Go try them
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  Speaker 2: if you have the chance, try them. They're amazing. I
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: can't wait to go there in person to try some
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: more of these, which we'll we will have our fair
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: share and appropriate and safe, responsible share, but of our share.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: But I can't wait to go there and try this
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: straight off the tap, because if it's anything as good
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: straight off the tap as it was out of the can,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be amazing. Today's was awesome. I'm really glad
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: that you save some of these from me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Next week should be pretty interesting against
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: the packers. You have them losing, I have them winning,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: so one of us will spin the wheel. Yeah, next week,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: we only have a few things left on the wheel.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: There's not a lot left but the elusive wax a
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: body part that's still there, that's still there, that's still there,
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  Speaker 1: and sit in the child's chair eating entire jar of pickles.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would actually be kind of good. I'm kind
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: of looking forward to that. Yeah, I like picking that
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: might be the least punishing punishment we have left.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe like a little cleanse.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Anyways, tune in next week for that, because one of
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: us will have to spin the wheel and we will
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: have to suffer the punishments, either because of a Vikings
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: win or a Vikings loss.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you never know.
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  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed both of these beers, the Irish Red
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: and the Vanilla Porter.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: I would agree with you.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: I think that Irish or Sorry, Yes, the Vanilla Porter
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: is slightly better, just because it brings me back to
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: some of those Star Personal Preference college days, some memories
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: that you and I have shared together around a Vanilla
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: Porter back in the day. But this Irish Red is
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: nothing to balk at either. It's a good beer, delicious.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: I still have a little bit left. I'm excited to
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: finish it off. Yeah, but I had fun.
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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