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- 0:14Bernie Fette (host): Hello.
- 0:15Bernie Fette (host): This is Thinking Transportation.
- 0:16Bernie Fette (host): Conversations about how we get ourselves and the things we need from point A to point B-- and all that can happen in between.
- 0:26Bernie Fette (host): I'm Bernie Fette with the Texas A&M Transportation Institute.
- 0:32Bernie Fette (host): A huge expanse of land in west Texas stretching into Southeastern New Mexico, is one of the biggest energy producing regions on this planet.
- 0:41Bernie Fette (host): The Permian Basin has long been known as a source of economic riches for the energy industry and for the communities and state whose fortunes are tied to it.
- 0:52Bernie Fette (host): But it's also been known for something else, a remarkable frequency of vehicle crashes, many of them serious and deadly.
- 1:02Bernie Fette (host): That makes it a high-priority area for developing effective crash prevention strategies.
- 1:07Bernie Fette (host): Michael Martin, an assistant research scientist at TTI, is joining us for this episode to talk about efforts to curb the number of those incidents.
- 1:16Bernie Fette (host): Michael, thank you for taking time to join us today.
- 1:20Michael Martin (guest): Thank you, Bernie.
- 1:20Michael Martin (guest): Glad to be here.
- 1:22Bernie Fette: You and your colleagues have been working on a very specific traffic safety problem-- specific geographically because it's confined to the Permian Basin in west Texas, southeast New Mexico, but we've had energy production fields, oil patches for decades.
- 1:40Bernie Fette: Why all the sudden interest and attention in those regions now?
- 1:46Michael Martin: Yeah, very good question.
- 1:47Michael Martin: Most people would say, wow, you're doing something really innovative in a very remote part of Texas, the Permian Basin in Midland/Odessa area of Texas.
- 1:56Michael Martin: That yes is a very rural remote location, but it's dealing with urban levels of traffic.
- 2:04Michael Martin: And when you get with urban levels of traffic in a rural context that wasn't built to handle that level, then you start to have issues, either access management issues or crash issues, safety issues, and, and such.
- 2:17Michael Martin: Those were the leading points that got us here.
- 2:21Bernie Fette: When you started this work, what exactly was the intention?
- 2:24Bernie Fette: What were you setting out to do?
- 2:26Bernie Fette: And maybe you can talk a little about some of the specific problems you were looking at?
- 2:31Michael Martin: Sure.
- 2:32Michael Martin: So if you can keep that picture in your mind of, you know, small roadways handling lots of heavy truck traffic and high volumes of traffic, there's just kind of simple questions to ask and help TxDOT, the Texas Department of Transportation, answer.
- 2:47Michael Martin: How do we improve accessibility while preserving mobility and making things safer?
- 2:54Michael Martin: For instance, one road out there was called the most dangerous highway in Texas-- U.
- 2:58Michael Martin: S.
- 2:58Michael Martin: 285.
- 2:59Bernie Fette: Was called that simply because of the raw number of crashes, injuries, fatalities, et cetera?
- 3:04Michael Martin: That's right.
- 3:05Michael Martin: Yep.
- 3:06Michael Martin: And the first simple question was where are our driveways?
- 3:09Michael Martin: Okay.
- 3:09Michael Martin: And it was dealing with a high level of congestion and in particular locations.
- 3:13Michael Martin: So along that roadway, TxDOT needed to know where folks were turning on and off of the highway, because where that happens, you have conflict points where crashes can occur, where slowdowns can occur, things start to stack up.
- 3:28Michael Martin: And that was kind of the first question that we had to answer for them.
- 3:32Michael Martin: TxDOT was having a lot of access management issues on U.S.
- 3:37Michael Martin: 285, Texas 302, some of these major corridors that get you out into the oil patch.
- 3:43Michael Martin: They're carrying all the traffic from Midland/Odessa out to those locations with those issues.
- 3:49Michael Martin: They're also having traffic safety issues with crashes going up.
- 3:53Michael Martin: That area of Texas has about 2 percent of the Texas population, but 8 percent of the highway fatalities.
- 3:59Michael Martin: So, wow.
- 4:01Michael Martin: It's definitely overrepresented.
- 4:03Bernie Fette: So some of the specific problems that you were looking at, driveways was on the list.
- 4:07Bernie Fette: Can you give us a sense of, of what you kind of what you were looking at there?
- 4:11Michael Martin: Yeah, certainly.
- 4:12Michael Martin: So, you know, we're in far west Texas and the oil patch, there are access roads that intersect with the main highways.
- 4:19Michael Martin: Those locations carry a lot of traffic and it's typically large truck traffic, which moves slowly at first.
- 4:27Bernie Fette: And when you say access roads, you're talking about access to the actual drilling sites, the well sites, et cetera?
- 4:34Michael Martin: That's right.
- 4:35Michael Martin: Yep.
- 4:35Michael Martin: So just think of a white rock road coming and intersecting with the highway.
- 4:40Michael Martin: They may look non-descript, but some of them, particularly in whatever state the wells are in, can be carrying thousands of trucks in a matter of a few days.
- 4:49Bernie Fette: Okay.
- 4:50Michael Martin: Some of the questions and issues we were trying to help TxDOT with were finding these driveway locations, figuring out how much traffic is on them and why are we having crash issues at particular locations?
- 5:05Michael Martin: At the beginning, we used big data sources like Inrix.
- 5:09Michael Martin: Then ultimately we turned to connected vehicle data that was much more frequent.
- 5:14Michael Martin: Uh, every three seconds we get a dot on the map.
- 5:16Michael Martin: So we could easily see where folks were turning, slowing down, hard braking, stuff like that.
- 5:21Michael Martin: So it really helped to fill in the picture of what was going on.
- 5:25Bernie Fette: And where this started was again, with the driveways that you mentioned, the access points from the highways to the actual oil fields?
- 5:33Michael Martin: That's right.
- 5:34Michael Martin: Yeah.
- 5:34Michael Martin: Some of the access roads were handling more traffic than some of the county roads, you know, formal roads out there, public roadways.
- 5:42Michael Martin: And so not only finding the location.
- 5:45Michael Martin: Coming up with some relative volume for these access roads was really useful.
- 5:51Michael Martin: And you have to think, you know, expand that picture in your mind to a corridor that's about 50 to 80 miles long.
- 5:57Michael Martin: So going out there and collecting data in a traditional manner where you either hire students or hire a consultant to do it, would've taken a long time.
- 6:06Michael Martin: Would've been expensive and possibly impossible.
- 6:09Michael Martin: And you're putting people in a very dangerous environment.
- 6:12Bernie Fette: You were looking at those driveways and what were some of the other major problems you were examining?
- 6:19Michael Martin: So being that it was deemed the most dangerous road in Texas, crashes were an issue.
- 6:24Michael Martin: So what we tried to do is put those crashes on, on roadway segments so that we could figure out where are our problems occurring.
- 6:31Michael Martin: You can't just always look at frequency-- you know, the number of crashes.
- 6:35Michael Martin: You have to look at exposure there, people driving relative to the number of crashes.
- 6:40Bernie Fette: So how many of these safety challenges that you guys were working with are about the infrastructure that you've been talking about?
- 6:49Bernie Fette: You know, the roads, bridges, driveways.
- 6:50Bernie Fette: And how many of these challenges are about the people who drive on them?
- 6:56Bernie Fette: Most notably, the people who are working in those regions?
- 6:59Michael Martin: Yeah.
- 7:00Michael Martin: That's a perfect question for this project, because oftentimes in a situation like this, the traffic engineer may just look at how the roadway is built.
- 7:08Michael Martin: Some of the geometry, physical aspects, the volumes, stuff like that.
- 7:13Michael Martin: But in our case, we knew that the users played an important role, right?
- 7:18Michael Martin: It's not the roadways crashing into each other, if it's people on the roadways crashing into each other.
- 7:22Michael Martin: And so with the connected vehicle data and the in-vehicle monitoring system data-- IVMS-- we were able to pull out and observe driver behaviors in the environment in which they were crashing and having accessibility issues.
- 7:41Bernie Fette: You've got a road network that wasn't built for such intense, heavy use.
- 7:47Bernie Fette: And you have drivers who are in many cases young.
- 7:51Bernie Fette: Perhaps very tired from very tiring work.
- 7:54Bernie Fette: And because again of their age, statistically predisposed to risk taking.
- 8:01Michael Martin: And also time is money.
- 8:03Michael Martin: Yeah.
- 8:03Michael Martin: It's, they're in a hurry.
- 8:04Michael Martin: Right, right.
- 8:04Michael Martin: Because if you don't get to it, someone else will get to it.
- 8:07Bernie Fette: Right.
- 8:07Bernie Fette: Yeah.
- 8:08Bernie Fette: Drivers operating vehicles that are big and heavy under time pressures, et cetera, what could possibly go wrong?
- 8:15Bernie Fette: Is it fair to call this a perfect storm?
- 8:18Michael Martin: I think a lot of things aligned just right.
- 8:21Michael Martin: Yeah.
- 8:21Michael Martin: For these issues to be exacerbated by each of the points that you just made.
- 8:26Michael Martin: And so you can't just look at the physical infrastructure to try to solve some of these problems.
- 8:33Michael Martin: You really do have to look at some of the behavior issues.
- 8:36Michael Martin: Now, the data we use, it's not tied to individuals.
- 8:39Michael Martin: I wanna make that very clear that we're not prying into anybody's private life.
- 8:44Michael Martin: We are simply looking at generalized behaviors that are occurring on a roadway segment or at a particular location.
- 8:53Michael Martin: We don't care if it was Joe Bob or Jane Doe.
- 8:56Michael Martin: If we see high levels of hard braking at a particular location, along with a lot of rear end crashes, very likely to be strong relationship there, something is going wrong.
- 9:07Michael Martin: And oftentimes when you see those sort of overlapping issues, it doesn't tell you exactly the solution.
- 9:14Michael Martin: It just kind of highlights the problem, which 50, 80 mile long corridor narrows down, where you focus your efforts because we have a limited pot of resources to apply to these problems.
- 9:24Michael Martin: So you have to be strategic.
- 9:26Michael Martin: And that's what we did.
- 9:28Michael Martin: So we take crashes.
- 9:29Michael Martin: We take the physical aspects of how the roadway was built.
- 9:33Michael Martin: We take how many people are driving out there.
- 9:35Michael Martin: And then we pull in behavior and overlap those layers, those on a map where you see problematic conditions overlapping, those are your target locations.
- 9:46Michael Martin: That's where you start to focus your efforts as opposed to, oh, we have a big problem of your, you know, the squeaky wheel gets the oil.
- 9:52Michael Martin: Right.
- 9:54Michael Martin: And so with this, it's more of a data-driven approach and you can do a full-length corridor analysis in a matter of a month.
- 10:01Michael Martin: And that timeframe is important because if you collected the data traditionally, by going out in the field, that would be far longer.
- 10:09Bernie Fette: So it sounds like what you're doing, the layering approach that you're taking is really giving a much clearer picture of the complexity of the problem.
- 10:20Bernie Fette: And to borrow your reference from just a moment ago, you're giving some degree of intensity to just how squeaky the wheel is.
- 10:30Michael Martin: Yeah.
- 10:30Michael Martin: That's right.
- 10:31Michael Martin: And whether or not the issue actually exists based on what we can see.
- 10:35Bernie Fette: Okay.
- 10:36Bernie Fette: Which again, gets you away from the anecdotal and into the more data-driven and data-precise understanding of the problem.
- 10:44Michael Martin: Yeah.
- 10:44Michael Martin: We want this to be more proactive.
- 10:46Michael Martin: Ultimately, a lot of what we've talked about is reactive, right?
- 10:50Michael Martin: Issues occurred, now let's react to them.
- 10:53Michael Martin: Going forward we have the opportunity to use a lot of this stuff to be proactive, look at historical crash records.
- 11:01Michael Martin: But then also look at either real-time or not that old behaviors to see, are we seeing precursors or leading indicators that these issues are going to either grow into a major issue?
- 11:18Michael Martin: Or are we gonna, in fact, is this area that has no issues going to turn into a major crash problem based on some of the behaviors we're seeing?
- 11:27Bernie Fette: Which would give you an opportunity to do what?
- 11:30Bernie Fette: Say place those access points in locations that made more sense so that they worked from the beginning instead of having to go back and fix the ones that don't work?
- 11:40Michael Martin: Well that's yeah.
- 11:42Michael Martin: Good questions.
- 11:42Michael Martin: The so what?
- 11:43Michael Martin: Well, the, so what is, if you can start to better predict where these things are occurring, or going to occur Mm-hmm, you can go out there and treat it appropriately.
- 11:56Michael Martin: Now that's not necessarily my technical area.
- 12:00Michael Martin: I'm more of a data nerd that is in the pit working on things to feed into these site types of analyses.
- 12:06Michael Martin: But think about it in terms of signage, pavement conditions, geometry, I mean, how things are built.
- 12:14Michael Martin: Do, does it still work with what's going on out there on the road today?
- 12:18Michael Martin: You know, are the users using it appropriately still?
- 12:22Michael Martin: So there's a lot of opportunity to try to make things safer.
- 12:26Michael Martin: We just have to start to look in the right places.
- 12:30Bernie Fette: So you can see where you can make a difference.
- 12:33Michael Martin: Absolutely.
- 12:34Bernie Fette: You've outlined the challenges and the problems pretty clearly.
- 12:37Bernie Fette: So let's turn our discussion to the solutions.
- 12:40Bernie Fette: You talked a little about how you use the data to figure out where to make access points to the oil fields make a little more sense.
- 12:47Bernie Fette: What are some of the other things that were done to address the crash problem?
- 12:52Michael Martin: For our latest study to use an example, it's actually U.S.
- 12:56Michael Martin: 385 south of Odessa between there and Fort Stockton, busy roadway.
- 13:02Michael Martin: And it's a four-lane divided, and they're putting up a cable barrier median.
- 13:07Michael Martin: This is far west Texas, the wild west.
- 13:10Michael Martin: That median is pretty flat.
- 13:13Michael Martin: A lot of folks drive pickup trucks, they'll just make their own median crossing wherever.
- 13:18Michael Martin: When you do that, you introduce a lot more conflict points.
- 13:22Michael Martin: You introduce the opportunity for more crashes.
- 13:24Michael Martin: We are already seeing some crash issues, uh, where we had more driveways, this exacerbated that problem.
- 13:31Michael Martin: So with the cable barrier going up, TxDOT needed to know which crossings were used more than others, the formal ones and the informal ones that I described.
- 13:41Michael Martin: The using of the connected vehicle data, we were able to actually pick out the U-turns and locate which ones were used more relative to the others, even if it was informal, it helped TxDOT to understand, okay, the public really thinks there should be a crossover here.
- 13:58Michael Martin: We can take that information and build it into our design process to determine whether or not we can make that crossover there, or how do we accommodate it some other way.
- 14:09Michael Martin: That's just one example of how we try to lessen the number of crashes and lessen the opportunity for crashes by reducing conflict points.
- 14:19Michael Martin: Some of the other things were providing solutions, uh, back up north of this area in U.S.
- 14:25Michael Martin: 285 to find some of these major intersections.
- 14:30Michael Martin: So, a well access road, that's carrying a lot of traffic.
- 14:34Michael Martin: Remember a large truck stops, and then they have to start slowly by turning so that you now have traffic that's supposed to be driving maximum 75, but we all have seen people driving higher speeds than that.
- 14:50Michael Martin: And so they're running up on a truck that's just pulled out.
- 14:53Michael Martin: It's hard to judge speed, particularly in a wide open space like that.
- 14:57Michael Martin: And so there, there were crash issues related to those locations.
- 15:01Michael Martin: So what we did is we gave recommendations to put in right turn lanes, center, turn lanes, super twos.
- 15:07Michael Martin: So that folks have the opportunity to get around these slower moving vehicles.
- 15:12Bernie Fette: When you say super two, Michael, can you help us understand what that is?
- 15:17Michael Martin: Yep.
- 15:17Michael Martin: I'm not an engineer, so I may not use the right terms, but we've all probably traveled on one at one time.
- 15:21Michael Martin: It's basically where a two-lane highway turns into a three-lane highway and your lane may have an additional lane to get by, to pass.
- 15:29Michael Martin: And then it'll neck back down to two lanes.
- 15:32Michael Martin: Right.
- 15:32Michael Martin: And that can alternate from side to side.
- 15:34Bernie Fette: Yeah.
- 15:34Bernie Fette: And we might have seen those locations out in areas where we see the signs that say next passing lane, two or three miles from here.
- 15:41Michael Martin: Exactly, exactly.
- 15:43Bernie Fette: Right.
- 15:43Bernie Fette: Okay.
- 15:44Bernie Fette: Can you talk a little bit about the stakeholders who were involved?
- 15:47Bernie Fette: This is not just the energy industry having concerns with this.
- 15:52Bernie Fette: You talked a little about the Texas DOT.
- 15:55Bernie Fette: Can you explain to us a little bit about how the public sector and the private sector worked together on addressing these issues?
- 16:02Michael Martin: Yeah.
- 16:03Michael Martin: We had a very positive experience related to that in this area.
- 16:07Michael Martin: You know, you have very large companies operating in the oil patch and crashes take time and time is money to them.
- 16:15Michael Martin: And everybody wants to make sure that everybody gets home at night.
- 16:19Michael Martin: So the Permian Strategic Partnership, which is a grouping of these companies in this area that come together, they went and talked to TxDOT, how can we play a role in helping improve safety, improve accessibility and mobility out in the oil patch, cuz they knew they're contributing to the issue, but they also wanted to contribute to the solution.
- 16:45Michael Martin: So through that, we were able to negotiate and talk about some of the information that we needed.
- 16:52Michael Martin: And so you heard me earlier talk about in-vehicle monitoring system data, IVMS data.
- 16:58Michael Martin: That data came from six major oil and gas companies that said,"Hey, you need better information.
- 17:05Michael Martin: We can give it to you." And they worked with their IVMS partner, mixed telematics to scrub the data, anonymize it and hand it over to us so that we could fold that into our analyses and create that more complete picture.
- 17:21Bernie Fette: And once again, you were doing this in a way that did not involve any sort of personal identifiable information from the people who were driving those vehicles.
- 17:30Michael Martin: No, certainly not.
- 17:31Michael Martin: And we do not want to touch any data that gives us personally identifiable information or PII.
- 17:38Michael Martin: And so actually with the IVMS data, we didn't have all the movements.
- 17:42Michael Martin: It was just the driver events.
- 17:43Michael Martin: So hard braking, hard acceleration for commercial trucks and passenger vehicles.
- 17:47Michael Martin: And that may not be that impressive, but it truly was because the precedent that that sets in terms of, you know, major companies wanting to participate in a transportation problem by handing over data of how their employees operate on those roadways, that's a big step forward in the right direction, in my opinion.
- 18:12Bernie Fette: That's pretty big in the world of transparency,
- 18:16Michael Martin: I would say so for sure.
- 18:17Michael Martin: Yeah.
- 18:18Bernie Fette: One of the things that you just mentioned when you were talking about the private sector partners in this picture, time is money and crashes cost money.
- 18:26Bernie Fette: The kind of safety problems that we're talking about, both the number of crashes and the severity.
- 18:32Bernie Fette: They obviously have implications for human life.
- 18:36Bernie Fette: People get hurt, often badly, and sometimes people die in these crashes, but do the crashes also have a wider impact?
- 18:46Bernie Fette: And I think you were kind of touching on that just momentarily.
- 18:49Bernie Fette: I wonder if I could get you to address a little bit more about the implications of these crashes, the implications for the energy industry and for local economies.
- 18:59Michael Martin: Yeah.
- 18:59Michael Martin: It's a deep question, right?
- 19:01Michael Martin: I'm not necessarily an expert for it, but I can give you my perspective.
- 19:04Bernie Fette: Sure.
- 19:04Michael Martin: From the company's perspective, they don't want any of their employees to get hurt, right?
- 19:11Michael Martin: It's terrible to deal with.
- 19:13Michael Martin: But it also, if we get down to the bottom line, it costs a lot of money and it also drives up insurance rates.
- 19:22Michael Martin: So some of these companies may be dealing with such great amount of issues that they may not actually be insurable any longer.
- 19:29Bernie Fette: Can't stay in business that way.
- 19:31Michael Martin: Can't stay in business that way.
- 19:33Michael Martin: The greater impact to the economy is each time one of these crashes occurs in a network that already isn't built out to carry the amount of traffic.
- 19:43Michael Martin: It all breaks down.
- 19:45Michael Martin: So a major crash will shut down a roadway for hours and there's not good alternative routes to get around the crash.
- 19:54Michael Martin: So...
- 19:54Bernie Fette: You've got ripple effects there too for the local economies about delaying shipments, delaying deliveries, et cetera.
- 19:59Bernie Fette: Yeah.
- 19:59Bernie Fette: Is fair to say.
- 20:00Michael Martin: I think that's absolutely fair to say.
- 20:02Michael Martin: Basically things need to occur when they're scheduled to occur.
- 20:05Michael Martin: Right?
- 20:06Michael Martin: And so whenever you have these sort of breakdowns in the system, it can have a tremendous ripple effect for certain.
- 20:13Bernie Fette: You did this work in a very specific region that has its own unique characteristics, and no two traffic environments are exactly the same.
- 20:25Bernie Fette: But I'm wondering, can you take what you've learned in west Texas and apply it elsewhere?
- 20:31Michael Martin: Yeah, certainly.
- 20:32Michael Martin: I think I said at some point, you know, this was really the first application for connected vehicle data.
- 20:37Michael Martin: For some of these traffic transportation issues.
- 20:40Michael Martin: John Speed at the TxDOT Odessa district was instrumental in supporting that research.
- 20:47Michael Martin: You know, we were exploring new ways to view the problem.
- 20:52Michael Martin: I keep using the analogy of painting a clear more detailed picture, but that's exactly what we are doing with these innovative data sources.
- 20:58Michael Martin: And so with that, you turn data into information and layering these pieces together, you get more information in a common location and you put subject matter experts, engineers, you put that in their hands and they can turn it into knowledge that they can act on.
- 21:19Michael Martin: So all that can happen in a very short amount of time with these passively crowdsourced data sets.
- 21:28Bernie Fette: Yeah.
- 21:29Bernie Fette: You talked about how you can take data to the next step, information, and the next step knowledge or actionable intelligence.
- 21:38Bernie Fette: Can you give us an example or two of how that happens?
- 21:41Michael Martin: Yeah, my job as a data wonk is to take a lot of data points and turn that into something that somebody can actually understand and use.
- 21:52Michael Martin: And that's the information.
- 21:54Michael Martin: I've worked with a lot of traffic engineers, transportation engineers, and so based on their training and professional experience, they can turn that into some sort of actionable intelligence.
- 22:06Michael Martin: So an example here is connected vehicle data is millions or billions of points, points that you can plot on a map using latitude, longitude, coordinates, and each one of those points has some information behind it, like speed, heading, the year of the vehicle, something like that.
- 22:24Michael Martin: Just some attributes to tell you a little bit about that point, taking that and turning it into some sort of meaningful result, like for instance, segment based rates.
- 22:36Michael Martin: So not just looking at the number of things, but looking at it relative to let's say hard braking, we don't wanna just look at the number of hard braking events.
- 22:45Michael Martin: We wanna know the hard braking rate because it really depends on how many vehicles you have passing through there to make some sense and be able to compare locations.
- 22:55Michael Martin: So that's a meaningful result.
- 22:57Michael Martin: Relative counts, knowing how much is occurring somewhere is also important.
- 23:01Michael Martin: Particularly with traffic volumes.
- 23:03Michael Martin: Turning percentages, U-turns, left turns.
- 23:06Michael Martin: Those are really interesting events to pull out and give to somebody who's designing a highway or dealing with a particular crash issue like rear-end crashes or left-turn crashes or anything like that.
- 23:20Michael Martin: Speed profiles.
- 23:22Michael Martin: Do you have a lot of high speed traffic moving in the same location as a lot of low-speed traffic when you have that separation or that sort of spread in speeds on the same segment, that's opportunity for disaster because like I was giving you the example earlier, a truck pulls out and it's moving very slowly getting up to speed, but somebody's coming up at, you know, 75 miles an hour or greater.
- 23:48Michael Martin: You don't want those two things happening at the same location.
- 23:51Michael Martin: So you need to give people their own space.
- 23:53Michael Martin: And then also looking at, you know, the connected vehicle data is a sample.
- 23:58Michael Martin: It's not all the vehicles out there.
- 23:59Michael Martin: So we have to know what sort of sample rates we're dealing with.
- 24:02Michael Martin: And that can range between five to greater than 10 percent of the traffic.
- 24:07Michael Martin: So that's all meaningful information that paints that more complete picture of what's going on out there on the roadways.
- 24:16Michael Martin: So that busy engineers at the TxDOT district can take it and turn into some sort of actionable intelligence, a solution to resolve whatever issue that they may be dealing with.
- 24:30Bernie Fette: So what then is it that motivates you to show up to work every day?
- 24:36Michael Martin: Good problems like this.
- 24:38Michael Martin: And what I mean by a good problem is working to find a solution to help save lives, time and money.
- 24:46Michael Martin: I mean, it's not just our motto.
- 24:48Michael Martin: I mean, that's a real thing that drives me.
- 24:51Michael Martin: And a lot of folks that I work with.
- 24:52Michael Martin: This is definitely a team effort and you know, working alongside other passionate people that have that common goal is what I think sets this work apart.
- 25:05Michael Martin: I don't wanna belittle anybody else's work or beat down to it.
- 25:08Michael Martin: It's just, that's what drives me.
- 25:11Michael Martin: I like trying to solve problems.
- 25:14Bernie Fette: Michael Martin-- assistant research scientist, and self-described data wonk at TTI.
- 25:23Bernie Fette: Thank you, Michael.
- 25:24Bernie Fette: You're certainly helping to put a spotlight on this issue and we appreciate that.
- 25:29Michael Martin: Thanks Bernie.
- 25:30Michael Martin: I appreciate it.
- 25:33Bernie Fette: The Permian Basin is big, in lots of ways.
- 25:37Bernie Fette: It's one of the largest energy producing areas in the world, responsible for more than a third of all U.S.
- 25:43Bernie Fette: oil production.
- 25:45Bernie Fette: It's big geographically too, covering more than 86,000 square miles.
- 25:50Bernie Fette: And it's also been really big in terms of traffic safety challenges.
- 25:56Bernie Fette: But with careful research and targeted strategies, crash numbers are coming down.
- 26:03Bernie Fette: Thank you for listening.
- 26:05Bernie Fette: Next time, a special guest.
- 26:08Bernie Fette: Marc Williams executive director of the Texas Department of Transportation, will join us to talk about leading the TxDOT team, and he'll share his thoughts on the future of transportation-- in Texas and beyond.
- 26:22Bernie Fette: Please do join us for that conversation.
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