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Jaguars Reporters: Tuesday, July 20 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Aside from Trevor. Lawrence started the players on this roster,
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  Speaker 1: who would you think has a chance to someday be
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  Speaker 1: in the prize? Welcome put Jaguars Reporters presented by t
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  Speaker 1: I A A Bank with Brian Sexton, John Oshan, Ashlyn
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  Speaker 1: A Bank starts right now. Welcome in Jaguars Reporters Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: We are back fresh, he charged. Everyone's looking great and
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  Speaker 1: excited to be back to Football's fearfully it is Ashley
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  Speaker 1: gonna see you. Good to you guys too. And you
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  Speaker 1: can see Joe or did you see our whole crew
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  Speaker 1: back in the office now. It's like it was like
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  Speaker 1: the first day of school on Monday. Was dressed up nice.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm probably doing pictures later. Yeah, shaved in
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  Speaker 1: a month, so I'm not sure how nice he looked.
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  Speaker 1: Just he looked like he'd been hanging out in the mountains.
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  Speaker 1: Some were in a cave. Yeah, there's some excitement around here.
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  Speaker 1: Training camp starts next week. John's seven days away whether
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  Speaker 1: we like it or not, right, yeah, and that is
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  Speaker 1: starting our news of the week. Training camp does start
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  Speaker 1: next week and we are awaiting what practices will be
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  Speaker 1: open to the public. We should expect that news sometime
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  Speaker 1: this week. But that's going to be a pretty cool thing,
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  Speaker 1: is seeing fans back out there again. It's something we've
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  Speaker 1: missed for sure, and I can imagine that they might
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  Speaker 1: have to cap help many fans are going to show
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  Speaker 1: up to see Trevor Lawrence's first practice. John Well, I
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  Speaker 1: think with a lot of things last year, if there
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  Speaker 1: was a year for fans to miss, that was it
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  Speaker 1: without the end. If there was a year for them
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  Speaker 1: to come back, this is certainly it so as uh
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  Speaker 1: Brian JP National. As we discussed all last year, everything
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  Speaker 1: seemed to line up to point for mega excitement this
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  Speaker 1: year and I expect training camp to be the first
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  Speaker 1: example of that. Well, there were what eight thousand people
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  Speaker 1: here when Blake Bortles made his rookie miniicamp debut. Can
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  Speaker 1: you imagine if it was unfettered, if there was no limit,
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  Speaker 1: how many people show up to watch Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I just don't think you can cap that number.
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  Speaker 1: Now they're going to There's not a lot of space
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  Speaker 1: out there, and obviously they're still some concerned with the virus, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, lingering. But overall, I just the excitement level
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  Speaker 1: is completely entirely unfettered. They could put this thing in
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  Speaker 1: the stadium if they had a Fielter for something in there,
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  Speaker 1: and and be just fine. Yeah, that's that's the way
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  Speaker 1: that that feels. And it is excited. I mean because
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  Speaker 1: we haven't seen fans in that environment in a long
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  Speaker 1: long time, no matter what good, bad team or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, it's Trevor Lawrence is gonna kind of drive
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  Speaker 1: the bus here, but there's a lot of other exciting
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  Speaker 1: young players that this fan base really hasn't had a
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  Speaker 1: close up look at, including last year's real they weren't
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  Speaker 1: trying to camp last year, so maybe they went to
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  Speaker 1: some games, but to see all those guys together on
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  Speaker 1: the field is gonna be fun. Yeah, it is amazing.
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  Speaker 1: I think we sometimes forget because we go through practice
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  Speaker 1: where they're every day. We're there for years, so you
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  Speaker 1: forget how how exciting is I get I get questions
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  Speaker 1: in the ozone mail bag. I'm always surprised how many
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  Speaker 1: questions I get from people when his camp start. I
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  Speaker 1: want to be there. Uh. The incredible interest level to uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, essentially standing bake in the sun, which which
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  Speaker 1: that's what you're doing. But this year, I think there's
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  Speaker 1: plenty of storylines to make that worth it. One other thing,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, since we're mentioning the Ozone mail bag,
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  Speaker 1: I found out this week that John hates the movie Rudy.
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  Speaker 1: That's at didn't like the main character read it against
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  Speaker 1: So I love the movie when it came out. But
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  Speaker 1: then I actually was doing I was in which to
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  Speaker 1: Kansas and I was doing a radio show and Rudy Ruder,
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  Speaker 1: the original came through promoting the book in the movie,
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  Speaker 1: and I sat with him in the studio at N
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  Speaker 1: S S Radio and I hated him. I just I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he was just the most he was abrasive, well hates
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  Speaker 1: a strong word. I didn't enjoy the interview. I was glad.
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  Speaker 1: I was so excited to do it because I had
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  Speaker 1: seen Shawn Aston play him in such a humble role.
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  Speaker 1: And he walked in with his chest puffed out I'm Rudy,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought, oh boy, I just great movie. Come on.
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  Speaker 1: The only great scene in the movie, I thought was
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  Speaker 1: at the end when the guy who had sort of
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  Speaker 1: mentored him saw it and he pumped his fist and
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  Speaker 1: walked off like that was cool. I like the Vince
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  Speaker 1: Vaughan caret. I like the part where his dad got
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  Speaker 1: off the bus at Notre Dame. I wanted to get
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  Speaker 1: back the first that's the most beautiful or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: I really enjoy the movie. I just didn't enjoy the
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  Speaker 1: actual Rudy. Something really embarrassing that I just realized like
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  Speaker 1: a year ago. I had never seen Rudy until like
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  Speaker 1: a year ago. And Hosiers and my softball coach, my
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  Speaker 1: entire life, my nickname was Rudy. I was like, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's so nice. He thinks I'm really good and I
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  Speaker 1: have a really great future and wow, I'm a really
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  Speaker 1: great softball player. And then I watched the movie. It's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is the guy that stinks great but works hard.
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  Speaker 1: And I did like a movie, but what I really
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  Speaker 1: That's why my nickname was that. You gotta be kidding me.
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  Speaker 1: You tell me I'm not that good? All right, fine,
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  Speaker 1: all right, let's move on with you, shall we. The
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  Speaker 1: preseason schedule is finalized, and there was some confusion of
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  Speaker 1: whether the Jaguars were going to have joint practices with
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  Speaker 1: the Saints, and we have been confirmed they will not
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  Speaker 1: be having joint practices. Those are hard to figure out
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  Speaker 1: at times. So I saw a tweet and then like
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  Speaker 1: five minutes later, I saw like ten tweets saying a word. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think there was a scheduled release. My understandings there
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  Speaker 1: was a schedule release, either by the league or somebody
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  Speaker 1: compiled the schedule. It was league or not. Yes, the
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  Speaker 1: league tweeted out that the Jaguars would be and the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars had not infirmed it, And yeah, I think there,
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  Speaker 1: as as is often the case, we joined practices. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: they were probably discussions, conversations. My guess is they probably
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  Speaker 1: discussed it with anybody who is eligible in that two
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  Speaker 1: week window, and most teams do and there's uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you say, hey, yeah, let's do it, and then yeside
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  Speaker 1: not to Yeah, well, you know, John, I mean, and
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  Speaker 1: I are particular from an era when the schedule was
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  Speaker 1: put out you know, for practice and for preseason workouts
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  Speaker 1: with other teams, and it never changed, nothing ever changed
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  Speaker 1: throughout the course of the season. And now we're in
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  Speaker 1: an era and COVID's only accentuated. There's everything seems to change,
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  Speaker 1: right what you planned on, Okay, we're not gonna do that.
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  Speaker 1: Now we're gonna do something different, a much more fluid
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  Speaker 1: schedule than it ever has been. I don't like it.
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  Speaker 1: Brian like, well, it's different. It's different. They're not asking
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  Speaker 1: and finally we'll end on a positive note. Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 1: was coming back from his honeymoon and then took his
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  Speaker 1: receivers to Clemson to work out. We all saw it
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  Speaker 1: on social media and they spent the weekend at the
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  Speaker 1: Lakehouse and it looked like they had a great for them. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and we didn't get invited, but it's fine. I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: expecting it. So the video of them jumping in the
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  Speaker 1: lake or whatever, it was cool, you know, throwing football's
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  Speaker 1: at Clemson. That's cool. Oh that's cool. Um, But hey,
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  Speaker 1: let's get real. Now it's time to go out there
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  Speaker 1: and see if they can do it out here. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's from a football standpoint, who cares that
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  Speaker 1: they they don't have Clemson to me. But from it, well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's great, but it's not gonna change how
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  Speaker 1: they played in the sea somewhere anyway. Right from a
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  Speaker 1: camaraderie standpoint, from a leadership standpoint, from a game to
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  Speaker 1: know you know that's what that sort of thing is
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  Speaker 1: all about. And uh, it sounds very simple to say, well,
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  Speaker 1: the young quarterbacks should do that. He should get it.
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  Speaker 1: There are plenty of stories throughout you know, the years
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  Speaker 1: where young quarterbacks have done that, but there are also
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  Speaker 1: plenty of young quarterbacks that don't, who don't get it.
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  Speaker 1: So this doesn't make Learns a Hall of Famer, but
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  Speaker 1: it certainly shows that he gets what the role is
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  Speaker 1: and he's so pitched perfect into how a player in
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  Speaker 1: that position should act. I don't know that he's that unusual,
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  Speaker 1: but it's good to say, well, he is everything that
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  Speaker 1: he has been advertised to be. Um. And then the
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  Speaker 1: second thing that stood out, you know to me, did
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  Speaker 1: you do I think you read the article that was
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  Speaker 1: in ESPN last fall about him and his black teammates,
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  Speaker 1: you know, working through the race issues last year, so
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  Speaker 1: that that just confirms his authenticity and and the genuine
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  Speaker 1: nature of who he is. Totally agreed. All right, let's
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  Speaker 1: get into big things, shall we go? Grying you're up well,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll continue with the theme of this. So I
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  Speaker 1: was I go out west every summer, got family out there.
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  Speaker 1: I was at a family wedding in Montana, and the
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  Speaker 1: people who were getting married were from southern California, from
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  Speaker 1: Orange County, and so all of their friends were from
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  Speaker 1: Orange County. And when I met them and they heard
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  Speaker 1: what I do, all they wanted to talk about was
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. I turned the conference no tebo, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: all Trevor right. Um, So I tried to turn the
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  Speaker 1: conversation to the Rams and the Chargers. And what I
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  Speaker 1: thought was really interesting was they were not interested in
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  Speaker 1: either one of those teams. They're Orange County. The Rams
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  Speaker 1: had been gone their whole life, right, These are kids
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  Speaker 1: who've gone off to college. They were working, some of
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  Speaker 1: them in Atlanta, New York and Chicago. They had moved
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  Speaker 1: to other places. So they had no interest in the Rams.
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  Speaker 1: Even though the Rams Matt Stafford and Jalen Ramsey and
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  Speaker 1: that whole crowd, Aaron Donald not really interested in the Rams, right. Um,
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  Speaker 1: You've got Justin Herbert, I mean, who had a an
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  Speaker 1: awesome season. I mean really, I mean people should be
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  Speaker 1: talking about him. They're not because he's the in team
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  Speaker 1: in l A and because of COVID. They had no
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  Speaker 1: interested in the Chargers because the Charges were San Diego's team.
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  Speaker 1: So they are really interested in Trevor Lawrence because they
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  Speaker 1: saw him play every weekend on the national broadcast that
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  Speaker 1: Clemson was on. And it it led me to wherever
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  Speaker 1: we were Idaho, Montana, you know, New Mexico, Wyoming, they're
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  Speaker 1: the same place. No they're not, they're they're re markably different. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there were markably different places and courage you all to
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  Speaker 1: go um, but that's where I was this summer, and
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  Speaker 1: people wanted to talk about Trevor Lawrence and the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: and could hold a conversation about him, and so it
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  Speaker 1: led to there is a genuine legitimate interest in the Jaguars,
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  Speaker 1: and not just that that's the Jaguars. It's Jacksonville. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the stuff we've all heard over the last ten years.
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  Speaker 1: There are people who are like, what are they doing
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  Speaker 1: down there? You know, tell me about what Urban Meyer. Well,
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  Speaker 1: there's not as much to tell because you know, we
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  Speaker 1: we didn't have the access that we all had in
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  Speaker 1: years passed around here. But the story is about to
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  Speaker 1: be written on the practice field in the preseason and
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  Speaker 1: into the regular season, and there are a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people that want to read it. That was my takeaway
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  Speaker 1: from one of them from my summer out west. I
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  Speaker 1: would not expect that from across the country. Old Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 1: What's Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, that's it, Trevor and Urban. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: really it's driving it. Well. I think even I mean
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  Speaker 1: Urban certainly gives you the base around here, and but
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  Speaker 1: I think most college football is about the head coach.
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  Speaker 1: NFL is about the quarterback. Urban certainly gives you a
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  Speaker 1: chance to recreate the culture around here. But I doubt
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  Speaker 1: they were talking that much about Urban. No, there was
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  Speaker 1: one guy who was from Ohio that wanted talking about Urban.
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  Speaker 1: But but I mean no, No, it was kids, it
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  Speaker 1: was Lauren, the next generation. Anybody would tell you that's
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback. That's that's the haircut, it's the bandana, it's
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  Speaker 1: the personality. And now the time is now. They've never
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  Speaker 1: with apologies to the great players here in the past,
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  Speaker 1: they've never had any of them would tell you they've
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  Speaker 1: never had this, because you know, an argument can be
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  Speaker 1: made most NFL teams have never really had this come in.
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  Speaker 1: This is one of the potentially one of the brightest
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  Speaker 1: stars ever to come in here in terms of everything
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  Speaker 1: that he brings. Now, there's been many other the brightest stars,
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  Speaker 1: every queen in place. They haven't worked out, they work out.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but uh, the potential is unbelievable. Definitely,
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  Speaker 1: is JP your big thing, kind sir. I'm ready to
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  Speaker 1: see actual paths on players and see what this offensive
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  Speaker 1: line can do for real. You know, it's one storyline
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  Speaker 1: we didn't really get a chance to dissect too much
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  Speaker 1: in the off season program because there's no contact. We
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  Speaker 1: have a pretty good idea of what the interior of
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  Speaker 1: the line is going to be. They're solid with Lender
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  Speaker 1: and Norwell and Can and Shatley is the backup swing
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  Speaker 1: guy there. That seems pretty solid, But we have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of questions still about the tackles Um Cam Robinson's
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  Speaker 1: on that the one year deal, the franchise deal, Joan
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  Speaker 1: Taylor has had a lot of improving to do. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: and Walker Little just signed his deal. He's here and
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of hope about his future. So what
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  Speaker 1: will that end up looking like? I think at tackle
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  Speaker 1: against this defensive line and training camp, I'm excited to
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  Speaker 1: see them push some guys around. I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: a really smart decision on urban Meyer's part to keep
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  Speaker 1: George Warhopum because the continuity for that group of offensive
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  Speaker 1: line move right. And when you look at the injuries
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  Speaker 1: they dealt with with Brandon and with Norwell in recent years,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously with the with Cam they didn't play like
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  Speaker 1: a one in fifteen offensive line last year, they had
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  Speaker 1: moments where they really played well. And so the continuity
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  Speaker 1: they get with Warhop, who is acknowledged to be a
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  Speaker 1: very good coach. Right, I'm not gonna say he's the best.
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  Speaker 1: He's Alex Gibbs Part two, Um, but he's a really
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  Speaker 1: good coach. And so now you've got some good players.
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  Speaker 1: You've got more good players when you bring in a
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  Speaker 1: Walker little right and what we think Ben Bartch might
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  Speaker 1: be able to grow into. Now you've got a good
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  Speaker 1: coach and a good nucleus of players who know each other. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's see what you've got. I'm with you, GP. I
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  Speaker 1: I think the potential for this offensive line to go
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  Speaker 1: from being okay good at times two really good really
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  Speaker 1: quickly exists. My guess is urban looked at and said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: with offensive line, I'm not going to bring in a
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  Speaker 1: college offensive line coach. The coach professional player that was
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  Speaker 1: going to be one of the spots that he was
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  Speaker 1: going to bring in bigtime NFL experience. War Up is
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  Speaker 1: already here, and it was interesting to me. I think
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  Speaker 1: it was the last offseason when Warhop was on the
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  Speaker 1: Zoom call and he made the comment that some of
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  Speaker 1: the techniques he learned take time to learn and that
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  Speaker 1: his lines in his second year we're often a lot
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  Speaker 1: better than his first year. And I'm not sure what
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  Speaker 1: the details of those techniques or they don't talk about
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  Speaker 1: that a whole lot, but I think that also played
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  Speaker 1: in Look, you've got five guys. It's remarkable in this
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  Speaker 1: day and age, these five. I don't know that a
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  Speaker 1: J started Week one in two thousand nineteen a J
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  Speaker 1: can where he was sharing in time with richardson whatever
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  Speaker 1: it was. But when they if they're healthy kicking off
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  Speaker 1: week one, it will be the third straight opening week
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  Speaker 1: that they've been the starting offensive line. I would venture
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  Speaker 1: a guess if you've been around the league, there's two
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  Speaker 1: or three teams you could say that this is of
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  Speaker 1: a designed with continuity and they may have the greatest
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  Speaker 1: second round draft twist of all time and walk a little.
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  Speaker 1: Has there ever been anything? He's going to be great,
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  Speaker 1: But it's believable the amount of hype this kid has
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  Speaker 1: basically from from his feet looking good in an O
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  Speaker 1: T A prize. But it's true, like you feel so
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  Speaker 1: much better knowing that he's there. If something happened, well,
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  Speaker 1: he certainly looks at the part. Everything lines up from brother.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's funny how because we have
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  Speaker 1: so little to go on during a t S and
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  Speaker 1: we've seen him five times and everybody you talked to,
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  Speaker 1: Hey Walker, we don't know Falcolo commed. I mean once
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  Speaker 1: he put on his pads against the NFL. But every
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  Speaker 1: resume line and every box you want to check is
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  Speaker 1: there for We talked about this before, but it bears
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  Speaker 1: mentioning again. Last year, the Jaguars quarterback position was a
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  Speaker 1: black hole. Right You're changing guys all over the place,
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  Speaker 1: and the inconsistency of the play was noticeable. This was
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  Speaker 1: not a team that could pass the ball, and yet
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  Speaker 1: with an undrafted rookie running back, they gained more than
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  Speaker 1: a thousand yards and there were moments where he really
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: looked like he could take control of a game. Well
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: that's the offensive line, you know. They created opportunities for
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  Speaker 1: James Robinson to be able to run when the defense
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  Speaker 1: stacked the line of scrimmage and said, if we stop him,
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  Speaker 1: we win. We stop him, We've got control of this game.
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  Speaker 1: This is a good group. The offensive line is a
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  Speaker 1: good group of players, and they'll have more consist to
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  Speaker 1: quarterback play again that could take them make that sight
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  Speaker 1: quantum leap. All right, John, we're gonna talk about the
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: quarterback situation, and the Jaguars backup quarterback situation is so
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: much more interesting going into camp than I thought it
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  Speaker 1: would be. And I'm going to assume here, even though
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  Speaker 1: the team has not said it, I'm going to assume
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  Speaker 1: that we're not talking about Trevor Lawrence as a backup quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: even though they have not named the stars. So let's
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  Speaker 1: let's just for the sake of argument, we would argue
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  Speaker 1: about this, say that there's no quarterback competition even though
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: there is so. But um, I assumed incorrectly and probably
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: based off just, uh, you know, the way things were
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: looking and in the way people were talking the gardnerments,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: she would not be here and be the backup quarterback
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: this year. You know, could he still be traded? Sure,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: could there be a team has an injury there, But
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna happen now. But I also
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: don't necessarily know that the competition behind him. Gardner looks
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: so much better than uh uh c J. Bethward in
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: the off season, but that was only five practices that
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: we saw out of fifteen, and we don't know how
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: they really feel. We don't know once the lights come on.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: And everything I've heard is that Jake Luton looked pretty good,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: and I know he looked good when I saw him.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: They were impressed with that. I think, you know, my
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: guess is, if I had to rank him right now,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: that it's Minshew is the backup. But I don't know
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: that that is necessarily written in stone, and I think
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: it's going to be a more interesting storyline than maybe
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: the backup quarterback has been around here a long long time.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I think it's worth pointing out, um, the the quarterback
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: position always has this you have to earn it, right.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Robert Slow yesterday said, yeah, Zach Wilson hasn't earned it yet.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: He's the number two overall pick, right. He the guy
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: who took reps with the number one, And they're saying
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: in New York, yeah, Zach Wilson's not the guy, you know,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: not yet he's got to earn it. Same thing they're
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: doing here. That's just that's coach speak. It's what they do.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Um So I'm with you on that. The backup quarterback position,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: to me, I thought, financially, the commitment they made to c. J.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Bethard and the relationship that he obviously had with Trent
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Bulky coming from San Francisco made Gardner Minshew expendable. But
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: then Gardner went and did what what players who love
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: the game do. So let's identify that he has a
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: love for the game, and not just the flowing hair
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: and the music videos and all that crazy stuff that
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: he does. But he went and proved me or John
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: or the coaching staff who may be thought, yeah, we're
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: gonna move him out. He's just here now. They he
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: proved us wrong. He gave them something to think about,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: which is, by the way, great lesson for every player
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: who steps out on that field, and that is you
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: have the ability to change the narrative if you play
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: well enough, and so far he has. You know, we'll
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: see what he does in the preseason. Right, but based
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: on last year, it was it seemed like a foregone
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: conclusion that he didn't play well he was benched. He
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: didn't get back in the lineup until really late in
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: the season. I thought he was gone. He's changed that
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: narrative for now. C J. Besser. By the way, two years,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: five million dollar contract, two point seven five guarantee. Yeah,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: and when you look at that back, yeah, of course,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: you know. I mean the money that they have spent
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: here to improve the facilities, the coaching staff, all of
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: that is two point seven five that much in NFL
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: dollars to prevent you from saying no, no, but if
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: it showed you that they wanted him. At one point,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: they believed all indications, that the direction, all indications where
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew's gone because of that right there. Anybody who
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: follows the NFL knows that. And then he went and
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: changed the storyline. JP, well, I think everything is going
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: to depend on you. I apologize. I think everything's gonna
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: depend on preseason game reps. You're going to need to
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: see him in game action, because it's been before where
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: we've seen him on the practice feeling like all right,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: you know that's gonna work, and then something happens during
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the game where it's not successful. So I think it's
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: gonna be where they're going to have to switch them
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: out a good amount during preseason games. I also agree,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I apologize, it's not at all. That's where we're gonna
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: find out live, live bullets. You gotta go play, and
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: that's only when you're gonna find out a lot of
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: pretty much every position coming up. And I don't know
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: that the book is closed on Jake Luton yet, you know, yeah,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, young guy, he's the kind of guy in
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: training camp. I mean maybe it's closed here. I don't know,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: but there were times last year during training camp but
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I thought this kid's got a lot of ability. Uh
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: so we'll say, hey, look there is a market for young, developable,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: develop a bull quarterbacks. Right. I go back to Rob Johnson.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: It was Mark Brunel's team. He was the first pick
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: of the fourth round and he became Fred Taylor. If
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: you do a good job teach this kid football and
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: coach him up, some team that needs a quarterback is
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: going to offer you a pick for him in two years.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: That there is value to that, just like you know
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: the soccer teams in Europe that have the academies that
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: develop young talent and then they trade or sell contracts.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Same thing here. You've got a young quarterback. He is
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: a commodity. Even if he's not your future, if you
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: develop him, he becomes someone else's future. Yeah. We always
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: said with Jake Luke and if if he didn't know
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: the backstory of anything, he had at times the best
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: arm on the team last year, and if he had
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: some touch. I mean I was talking to D. D
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: rest Brook. I remember when he was like, it's a
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: fastball coming at you, which can be a good or
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: bad thing. If he learns to have some touch on
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: the ball, he could definitely be an option. And don't
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: forget the wheels. Remember he spun around for the touchdown. Coach,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: coach him up, see what he can become. And then
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: he is a key piece in your future if you
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: develop him, because you can get value for that position
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: for sure. All Right. My big thing is we we
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: like to assign. It's what we do. And I'm getting
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: lots of questions on Okay, well who's gonna be wide receiver? One?
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: You have to have one, so who's it going to be?
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: And my big thing is, I don't think you need
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: to have one. And I think we're seeing this trend
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: in the NFL where you don't have the Julio Jones type,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: and if you don't, that doesn't mean you're not going
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: to be successful. I think, if I had to answer,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: would be d J. Chark, But then I think maybe not,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's Marvin Jones. And there's multiple guys you can
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: put in that role, and I think we don't need
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: to assign it. Why do we have to? Brian? Yeah,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry you say that. The quarterback will tell you
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: who who his his favorite target is. He'll decide, Yeah, exactly,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I mean why not live at I mean, are we
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: positioning him to be such a gadget player? I mean,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: this is a guy who was mentioned after his sophomore
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: year is potentially being the number one overall pick, a
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: guy who could come out and be a top five
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: pick if it hadn't been for injuries his junior year. Um,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: the quarterback will tell you he'll decide who he likes
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: the most, and by the way, that'll be the guy
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: who is all least where he's supposed to be when
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: he's supposed to be there. You know what people talk
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: about this because on NFL Network and ESPN when they
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: have round tables and NFL Live, they put up a
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: w R one and they talk about whose team has
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: a w R one. Not every team has a w
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: R one and Ashlan's zactly right, you don't need it.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: That's not really how most teams talk about their personnel.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: If you have if you have a Julio Jones, yes,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: you talk about it that way. I was with the
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Colts for ten years. Marvin Harrison was there, Reggie Wayne
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: was there. They really really talked about one one. It
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: was whoever was open on that play got the ball.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Defenses also decided, hey, who do we have to cover
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: on a certain play? Ashons act right. The w are
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: one thing is something that's easy to talk about in
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: a round table, not as pertinent when these guys are
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: putting to other game plans. All right, I feel better now,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: thank you. I was like, I don't know want to
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: answer that. I don't know. Do I have to have
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: an answer? You can have a bunch of wide receiver
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: twos and still have a productive offense. Yeah, alright, I
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: feel better now, Stop body quick calling? Right, all right, Joe,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: do you have the buzz already? It's time for everyone.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Ask John it's your question, um my question, and this
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: is very much uh an unanswerable question in a way.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: But aside from Trevor Lawrence, we're assuming that the next
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: five or six years are going to be memorable years
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: for this franchise, right ask the assumption that's the hope. Well,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: if that's the case, you need more than Trevor Lawrence
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: as memorable generational players. So are the players on this roster?
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Who would you think has a chance to someday be
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: in the Pride. And I'm gonna go quickly and say,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I think Miles Jack has a chance. He hasn't done
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: that yet, But if you're good for the next five
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: or six years, don't you think Miles Jack could play
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: well enough earn a second or a third contract and
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: be memory may not be remembered by fans of this
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: team as a key point around here. If you're going
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: to be good, I think it would be good for
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Miles Jack to be that good. So that's my answer, Ashley.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I would have to go I agree with Myles Jack,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: and then I'd have to go with Josh Allen. Ha ha,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: thanks for picking me because they were going to pick them.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen, I think will be here for a second
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: contract and will make a lasting impact on this franchise.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: One of the best draft picks that we've had is
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: an asset to the team in all areas in the stadium.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I for sure see Josh Allen on some sort of
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: stadium wall one day, and I think it's the Pride. Now,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: if it's Josh, it's okay, because obviously at players in
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: this roster right now, there's a good chance there's not
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: for players who are going to be in the prize.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: If you guys want to pay Josh and Miles feel free.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know you said current players, So Jalen's out.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I guess if you're not walk back not for the back, right,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: it's the Pride And then he's gonna get the busting
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: canton to Valker little right now. Um this because contracts.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: DJ Charks in the contract year is gonna be around
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: long enough to do it. Like you don't got to
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: figure that out at the end of the year. Oh man,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: give me, you know what, give me Jane Robinson if
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: he's this and they can keep him around and they
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: don't have to pay him through the nose at some
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: point they might have to. But it's a running back.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: If he's that consistent for that long and he's keeping
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: this thing going on offense. Give me him just for arguments, Sike.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I'm the guy who argues that Brad Measter should be
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: up there for two dred nine. You know games, a
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: guy who rarely missed to play, let alone games until
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: you know season five or six. Um, and you've taken
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: all the players. So let me make a case for
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: a guy who is a really good football player. It's
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: not legit. I don't think he's gonna put in there,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: but I mean Brandon, and there's a guy who's been
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: around here for a long time, has played at a
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: very high level. If not for injuries, I think he
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: would be recognized more around the league for the type
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: of football player that he is. Um. And if he
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: stays around. He's in the last year his contract too.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: If he were to sign on and be part of
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: the resurgence of this offensive line, I think you could
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: see Brandon Lender take his game to another level and
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: be that guy too. I get it, he's not that
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: explosive playmaker, um, but you know, I think he's a
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: guy who is significant to this franchise, even though the
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: franchise only had has one winning season in his time. Here,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: And the point of the question is if they're going
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: to be as good as everybody hopes they are, they're
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: gonna need somebody out of these thirty to have seasons
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: that you look back on and go, hey, that was
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: really important, that was memorable. He made big plays. So
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I think there's players on this roster that can do it.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I was just curious to see who you guys thought
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I could do it. Well, that's a great question, John
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Way to bring it well, No, and mine is a
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: little bit more on the serious side because the storyline
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: with this Delta variant that is starting to get attention
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: in places like l A and New York, UM and
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: and d C. You know, that could affect the trajectory
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: of this season again, um, depending on how it goes.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: So there's this issue with players who have vaccinated players
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: who are not. I think thirteen teams are above and
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: two teams are below the fifty And so that brings
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: into how are you gonna balance this this year because
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have guys who don't have to wear masks,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: who can eat lunch together, who can you know, go
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: out and leave the hotel and the rules are different
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: for two different sets of players, so you're gonna have
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: some teams. I think the Steelers are one of the
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: teams i've heard that's above. They're going to be closer
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: to normal than the Colts, So I think are one
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: of the teams i've read that are under fifty. Right,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: how does this affect the season? Is it a tremendous
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: advantage for the Steelers and a tremendous decid manage for
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: the Colts or is it all just a crapshoot based
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: on how they manage things last year. I think it's
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: an incredible disadvantage. And I was watching NFL Network and
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Michael Irban was saying it was a hot take for sure.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: He was saying, if you are committed to winning, you
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: need to get the shot, and correlating the two, saying
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: that teams are going to have a much higher upper
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: leg over this threshold. So if you really want to win,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: get the vaccine, which I understand is is a hot take,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: but there is something to say with that. I mean,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: the rules are totally different, I would say this, and
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: some teams need the rules and the guidelines and things
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: to keep everybody on course. That might be a different
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: way to look at it, especially like a young team. Hey,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: you've got to be in this certain area in a
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: certain time at a place, and there's rules and regulations
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: all no matter what for every team. But I don't know,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: maybe that's a wrong way to look at it, but
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: maybe some teams might might use this to their advantage
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: to keep guys on the straight and there a little more.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: This is around of time all rup JP. I think
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: you're right at anybody. Everybody so far is right. But
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I do think you can't predict the future in this
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: vaccine thing. We're learned that with COVID every week you
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: were learning last year. But it certainly feels I felt
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: like in February March that you had a chance at
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: NFL season sort of being much freer from all the
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: weekly COVID stories that were last year. Right now, just
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: judging by what I read, I'm not a doctor, but
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I play one on the radio. Um, it feels like
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be situations again this year where there's a
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: chance you're gonna maybe not games canceled, but it feels
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: like there's gonna be a good chance that you're gonna
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: have key players out of games because of COVID, because
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: you're already seeing a cocoa goths out of the Olympic.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, different athletes have had to pull out the Olympics.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I think it's probably gonna happen in the NFL, and
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: I think it will be a story, not as biggest story. Well,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: and look the reporting suggests, and and I'm not sure
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor either, that this surges among unvaccinated people. Right,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: So that's giving the NFL Players Association and the NFL
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: and the coaches even more credibility to go, hey, guys,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: if we're going to get through this season. But if
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: you still can't force them, you're still gonna You can't.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: You can't get a personal decision, personal decision, just one
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: more thing on your point. Um, A young team like this, boy,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: it's a tremendous advantage if you have everybody in the
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: same room doing the same thing. A team like the Bucks,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: you know, that veteran heavy team, it doesn't matter to them.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think you know, because Tom Brady is gonna
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: come in the end and he's going to change any problems.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: He's going to smooth it out and level it out
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: for that football team. But for this football team here
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: getting to that threshold where they can all be in
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: the same place at the same time, doing the same thing.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I think that's pretty important for urban Meyer and for
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: his quarterback. Yeah, totally great to have everyone in the
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: same room getting to know each other. Says something, all right, JP,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: your question, how quickly will the Jaguars defense doubled their
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: sack total from a season ago? That sack total a
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: season ago was twelve twelve for the entire season for
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: this Jaguars defense, and I remember seen they had ten
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: sacks week one. Um, that's a little different defense obviously
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: than the last year's group. How quickly, John, will they
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: double their sack total week eleven? And you know, because
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I put him on pace for what probably like thirty
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: one thirty two sacks if I mean, I didn't do
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: the math. It feels like I don't think they're going
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: to be a I'd be surprised if his pass rush
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: is as good as two thousands seventeen. I'd be surprised
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: if it's one of the greatest pass rushes in team history.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be better if they double
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: their sack total from twelve and get to thirty or
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: thirty one for the season. Then he had a good season,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: So I would guess that's about the level of improvement
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: you can expect. I don't expect ten in week one.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: You know, one of the reasons why this team couldn't
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: rush the pastor last year was because they were so
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: far behind in so many games that there weren't as
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: many opportunities. And I think with an offense to the
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: table to score points and keep games closer, and if
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: you have Josh Allen on the field, you know you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have a greater opportunity. So I'll be more aggressive.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll say by the bye week they've got twenty
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  Speaker 1: four sacks. I don't think that means they're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: forty eight on the season. But I think this defense
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  Speaker 1: is going to come out. I think they've done enough
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  Speaker 1: to be able to be more aggressive, which is obviously
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  Speaker 1: Joe Collins m O and I think we're gonna early on,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to carry the day. I can see some
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: of those players making an impact early week seven, halfway
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  Speaker 1: through the season. So you guys think they're going to
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, they do well. I just said I don't
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: think that they're necessarily a forty eight sack team. But
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  Speaker 1: I think there's going to be opportunities early for them
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  Speaker 1: to be able to get after it because I think
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  Speaker 1: the schedule is more favorable to them early where they
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: can stay in games. I suppose there's that six games
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  Speaker 1: stretch where you've got the Rams and the Seahawks on
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  Speaker 1: the road. Okay, So I'm saying early on, I think
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  Speaker 1: they'll have more success. I mean, I think, like you,
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  Speaker 1: I think there are they're capable. If you look at
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  Speaker 1: the talent in the scheme of of being a thirty
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: two three, you know, upper half of the league perhaps
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: in terms, I feel really good about that. Yeah, I
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: think halfway we get around there. Double It's not hard
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  Speaker 1: to double that. Okay was the question meet it or
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: double it? I can't remember now double it? Double it?
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  Speaker 1: Okay at halftime of the eighth game of the season.
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  Speaker 1: And you guys better come and tell me if they do,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: and if I'm wrong, let me know, all right. My
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: question is we all have our stories about fans and
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: interactions at games and training camp, and we missed that.
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  Speaker 1: So what did you miss most about having those fans
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: interactions at games, at practices, training camp? What did you
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: miss most about it um, people yelling at John Osier,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: no um. The noise on a big play. You know,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: the fans in the stands get to see, you know,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: practice and drills and all that. But when it's eleven
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: on eleven and there's a deep ball that's connected and
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: you know that noise, that that excitement level, I think
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: is what we missed last year. That's what I got,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: just the energy. I mean. I keep a Washington Football
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: team helmet on my desk that I have it I
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: was a kid. It's a plastic helmet. I got it
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: from Sears. They used to run around, you know, play
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: football in the backyard with it. And are you laughing
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: at Sears used to be the department store. It started
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: as a catalog series and Roebuck back in the old days.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: There to remind me that I've been doing this forever
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: and it feels like and you know, you get a
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: little jaded. But when I was a kid, I was
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: in jade. I thought this was like I thought the
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: NFL was the greatest thing in the world. And so
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I give it here to remind myself that readers and
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: our fans still feel that way. So you miss training
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: camp when you see the kids who still look at
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: this as the most amazing thing in the world. To
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: see this up close when the fans aren't here, you
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: don't see that. Totally agree. I'm not sure how if
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: this answers your question or not. But ten twelve years ago,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: when Jack Delil was the head coach here, they did
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: the Oklahoma drill out on the field, and the night
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: that they did the Oklahoma drill, they did it under
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: the lights. So they practiced a little bit later and
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: people started showing up earlier, and a fire truck pulls
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: up and they put the ladder up. They hang the
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: American flag from the ladder, and then the the the
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: fireman went and sat on rungs of the ladder. It
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: was Americana, right. Football is such a fabric of American life.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: And the last year it hasn't it hasn't felt like that.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: The last year it's felt like a video game, right,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: something that you watched from afar, but not something that
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: you took part in. And that night is always one
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: of my favorite training camp nights because the people could
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: touch their heroes, right, they could touch their football team.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: And I think those stories, those memories are what's missing.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: It's the memories that make us rich in life. It's
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: not the things, it's the people and the memories that
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: we accumulate over the course of our lives. And that
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: was a very memorable night. And and every fan who
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: comes in here has a different memory from a game,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: from a practice, from an interaction. I missed the memories
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: that are made very cool. That's a cool story. I've
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: never heard that before. I'll take the memories, leave the
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma drill where it is. Yeah, that's let's take well.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: And what people may forget was that was the night
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: that tyson of Lalu pop du Jeez now were on
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  Speaker 1: the story pcl and and was never able to be
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: the players into raptive, wasn't for nine or we can
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: overall at week? It was so nice to begin with.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: All right, Diver supporters number one in the books. Check,
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  Speaker 1: we're back. We're back better than ever. Training camp starts
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  Speaker 1: next week. You will see you here as on fields.
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  Speaker 1: Have a great week. Fella to the LU