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- 0:02Speaker 1: On scoring ruins Australia. This is the Winner Panalty Show.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Riata Panety Show.
- 0:11Speaker 3: Coming up tonight, Support for One Nation surges in Victoria,
- 0:15Speaker 3: with the latest data showing the party could soon hold
- 0:18Speaker 3: a balance of power in the state.
- 0:20Speaker 2: The panel will join me to discuss the day's top headlines.
- 0:24Speaker 3: Shocking reports claiming Australia is one of the top consumers
- 0:27Speaker 3: of child abuse content in the world. Lawyer and anti
- 0:31Speaker 3: child exploitation campaigner Andrew Carpenter will have more on that. Shortly,
- 0:36Speaker 3: The Great Josh Hammer has the latest from the US,
- 0:38Speaker 3: including Secretary of State Marco Rubio is a blistering speech
- 0:42Speaker 3: in Munich condemning the weakness of certain European allies, and
- 0:47Speaker 3: later in the aur Kinsey's Schofield would join me with
- 0:50Speaker 3: all the latest royal and celebrity news.
- 0:52Speaker 2: Including on a famous.
- 0:54Speaker 3: Teds sufferer heading back to the US and talking about
- 0:59Speaker 3: left his losing Yeah. Tonight we featured Democrat Congresswoman Alexandria
- 1:03Speaker 3: Accazio Cortez opining about geopolitics.
- 1:09Speaker 4: I think that this is such a you know, I
- 1:15Speaker 4: think that.
- 1:17Speaker 5: This is a.
- 1:20Speaker 4: This is of course a very long standing policy of
- 1:26Speaker 4: the United States.
- 1:28Speaker 3: But first fresh polling is revealed that support for One
- 1:31Speaker 3: Nation is surging in Victoria, with the latest starter showing
- 1:34Speaker 3: the party could hold the balance of power after this
- 1:37Speaker 3: year's state election in November. The poll conducted by demos
- 1:41Speaker 3: AO and Premier National puts One Nation's primary vote at
- 1:44Speaker 3: twenty one percent, just two points behind Labor at twenty
- 1:49Speaker 3: three That's down a staggering fourteen percent compared to the
- 1:53Speaker 3: twenty twenty two election result. Primary vote support for the
- 1:57Speaker 3: Victorian Coalition has also taken a hit, dropping eight percent
- 2:01Speaker 3: since October last year, but thanks to One Nation preferences
- 2:05Speaker 3: it hassed, it increased its lead over Labor in the
- 2:09Speaker 3: two party per therred vote. They are leading fifty three
- 2:12Speaker 3: to forty seven percent. They're joining me now for more
- 2:15Speaker 3: on this is chief economists at the Institute of Public
- 2:18Speaker 3: Affairs Adam Crichton and Sky News contributor Louise Roberts.
- 2:22Speaker 2: Adam, I'll start with you.
- 2:24Speaker 3: One Nation is up twenty percent on its twenty twenty
- 2:27Speaker 3: two election result in Victoria. But how many of those
- 2:31Speaker 3: votes are from disaffected labor voters? How many from coalition
- 2:35Speaker 3: and what do you see the impact being at the
- 2:38Speaker 3: state election.
- 2:39Speaker 5: Well, certainly that's a great pole for One Nation and
- 2:41Speaker 5: a terrible poleful Labor. I mean, I think they were
- 2:43Speaker 5: down fourteen percentage points. You'd have to assume that half
- 2:45Speaker 5: of the support that's gone to One Nation is from
- 2:48Speaker 5: those Labor voters.
- 2:49Speaker 1: That's if we can believe that poll. Okay, it was
- 2:52Speaker 1: a big sample, fourteen hundred people.
- 2:54Speaker 5: Demos is not one of the better pulses, I believe,
- 2:57Speaker 5: or at least not the best, I should say, of course.
- 3:03Speaker 5: So look, let's wait and say I think it's an
- 3:05Speaker 5: overall it's good for the Libs. They be winning the
- 3:07Speaker 5: election One Nation, to be picking up twelve to fifteen
- 3:10Speaker 5: seats or something like that on those numbers in the
- 3:12Speaker 5: lower House, and it's.
- 3:14Speaker 1: A terrible poleful Labor.
- 3:15Speaker 5: They would lose certainly on those figures, no question, Louise.
- 3:19Speaker 3: There's not been a lot of preference discipline on the right.
- 3:23Speaker 3: Without a coalition or at very least a very well
- 3:28Speaker 3: communicated preference steel the Labor Greens alliance could prevail here
- 3:33Speaker 3: that you got the right vote fractured and they preference
- 3:38Speaker 3: very well on the left. Just about every Greens primary
- 3:42Speaker 3: vote eventually ends up with Labor.
- 3:44Speaker 4: That's right.
- 3:45Speaker 6: You make a very good point there, Rita, because the
- 3:47Speaker 6: Labor and the Greens do have a very well oiled
- 3:49Speaker 6: machine when it comes to preferences. They're very tight, very
- 3:52Speaker 6: tight machine in that way, whereas, of course the right
- 3:54Speaker 6: side of politics is very fractured and messy, and they've
- 3:58Speaker 6: really got to raise their game if they want to
- 4:00Speaker 6: take advantage of One Nation's rise, or else you'll see
- 4:02Speaker 6: a lot of Conservative votes practically go to waste.
- 4:05Speaker 7: I guess.
- 4:08Speaker 3: After the back of that polling, former Victorian Premier Jeff
- 4:11Speaker 3: Kennett has urged the coalition in Victoria to join forces
- 4:15Speaker 3: with One Nation and sign a preference still if it
- 4:19Speaker 3: will guarantee Labor's defeated the next election. Jeff Kennett told
- 4:23Speaker 3: the Australian newspaper that reasonable parties and Independence must unite
- 4:28Speaker 3: to throw up the Labor government, which has ruled the
- 4:30Speaker 3: state for fourteen years and is currently facing fresh accusations
- 4:34Speaker 3: of corruption regarding its dealings with the CFM MEU Adam
- 4:38Speaker 3: Mark good of the former premier to start advocating for
- 4:42Speaker 3: what we've been saying on this program for years, for years, Jeffrey,
- 4:48Speaker 3: better late than ever.
- 4:49Speaker 5: Well he's obviously a viewer of course. Well, look, I
- 4:52Speaker 5: mean he's right, they should do a deal. They must
- 4:54Speaker 5: do a deal. Historically, as you know, there's been great
- 4:55Speaker 5: reluctance on the Libs part because.
- 4:57Speaker 1: The Left attacks them for being associated with.
- 4:59Speaker 5: So called racist which which it seems to be now
- 5:02Speaker 5: as a third of the country apparently so. So it'll be
- 5:05Speaker 5: interesting to see whether the huge support for One Nation
- 5:08Speaker 5: actually means the Left is not so inclined to attack
- 5:11Speaker 5: the Liberal Party for being racist because they could be
- 5:14Speaker 5: alienating their own potential voters.
- 5:16Speaker 3: Well, the Liberal Party has got to stop being spooked
- 5:19Speaker 3: by that talks as well, o they the Liberal Party
- 5:21Speaker 3: are way too well, that's scared of any sort of
- 5:25Speaker 3: media backlash, activist backlash.
- 5:28Speaker 2: And it's to their detriment. Louise.
- 5:30Speaker 3: There's going to be a couple of tests for one
- 5:33Speaker 3: Nation's real support in the next few months, with by
- 5:36Speaker 3: elections in the Victorian state Seed of Nepean and also
- 5:40Speaker 3: in Susan Lee's federal seed of Farer, Farer, Farer, far Farer.
- 5:46Speaker 3: We'll get them in the South Wales. How do you
- 5:49Speaker 3: see that those two races. Because it's all well and
- 5:54Speaker 3: good for one Nation to be polling well in these
- 5:58Speaker 3: news polls and resis, but when it comes to actually
- 6:02Speaker 3: casting a vote, the result could be entirely different.
- 6:06Speaker 1: That's right.
- 6:07Speaker 6: So if it's soft in safe seat like Para, for example,
- 6:10Speaker 6: then you know, it just shows there wasn't the momentum
- 6:13Speaker 6: really there in the first place. It was more of
- 6:14Speaker 6: a bleip. It was more of a protest vote. They
- 6:17Speaker 6: need to be able to translate that into seats, and
- 6:19Speaker 6: certainly in the seat of Farah in New South Wales,
- 6:21Speaker 6: I know One Nation have been tapping up the city MP,
- 6:24Speaker 6: Helen Dalton, who's the sitting MP of Murray, New South
- 6:27Speaker 6: Wales MP, and they're sort of keen to sort of
- 6:30Speaker 6: tap into her voter base and issues that she demonstrates
- 6:34Speaker 6: and represents people on. Also businessmen like Darren de Bautley,
- 6:37Speaker 6: he's a local winemaker. They've also tapped him up too,
- 6:40Speaker 6: so they can see that someone who's in the area,
- 6:43Speaker 6: a very strong individual, is a good way for them
- 6:44Speaker 6: to go, certainly in Pharah. But if One Nation doesn't
- 6:48Speaker 6: perform well, then it's just as I say, it's just
- 6:51Speaker 6: a blip. It's not been the sort of earthquake that
- 6:55Speaker 6: we were all expecting in a way. But it's a
- 6:57Speaker 6: Conservative seat, icularly in Farah, so.
- 6:59Speaker 2: The sl do well really, but they should do well.
- 7:03Speaker 3: I think if they don't do well in that by election,
- 7:06Speaker 3: there's going to be real concerns for One Nation. I
- 7:09Speaker 3: don't expect them to do great things in the p
- 7:11Speaker 3: and I don't think that really a seat that's going
- 7:13Speaker 3: to gravitate to know.
- 7:14Speaker 2: It's One Nation.
- 7:15Speaker 5: Well, it's not a It's not a working class seat,
- 7:16Speaker 5: is it.
- 7:19Speaker 2: He's got some very affluent cortses down there.
- 7:22Speaker 1: So I think it's more like a Liberal win. That's
- 7:24Speaker 1: my pick.
- 7:25Speaker 2: Now let's talk about this piece.
- 7:28Speaker 3: Tom Switzer has written for The Australian newspaper about the
- 7:32Speaker 3: enduring ghastliness of Malcolm Turnbull after the former Prime Minister
- 7:38Speaker 3: surfaced once again last week to unload on the Liberal
- 7:41Speaker 3: Party's decision to roll Susan Lee, and he had this
- 7:45Speaker 3: to say about new leader Angus Taylor.
- 7:48Speaker 5: A lot of people say about Angus Taylor is he
- 7:52Speaker 5: is the best qualified idiot they've ever met.
- 7:56Speaker 3: Yes, charming stuff there from malc Tan, Tom Switzer wrote
- 8:02Speaker 3: in The Australian Turnbull's interventions are too often cheap and
- 8:07Speaker 3: unbecoming of a former leader of a great political party.
- 8:10Speaker 3: Instead of reasoned argument, he defaults to abuse and denigration.
- 8:15Speaker 2: From The Guardian to the ABC, he.
- 8:17Speaker 3: Delivers poisonous and deeply personal broadsides against liberal leaders and
- 8:22Speaker 3: the party he once led. Adam tom Switzer also wrote
- 8:26Speaker 3: that the only liberal leader he has refrained from denouncing is,
- 8:31Speaker 3: it seems, Susan Lee, perhaps because they share a similar,
- 8:34Speaker 3: smallerl liberal worldview. Yes, well that worked out well, didn't it,
- 8:37Speaker 3: the woman who helped destroy the party recording primary voter
- 8:41Speaker 3: of around fifteen percent. I mean, that's what Malcolm wants
- 8:44Speaker 3: for the party. I mean, I can't believe he's still
- 8:47Speaker 3: a member. I can't believe they still haven't thrown him out.
- 8:50Speaker 5: It's extraordinary behavior to use words like that like bier
- 8:54Speaker 5: and village idiot order for sorry idiot, wrote scholar mind Yeah,
- 8:59Speaker 5: a Rhode scholar. And I don't even understand, just from
- 9:01Speaker 5: a SELFI just point of view, why he's doing it.
- 9:02Speaker 5: I mean, it's entirely possible that Angus Tyler comes back
- 9:05Speaker 5: and does become Prime minister eventually.
- 9:07Speaker 1: You think he'd want to be friends.
- 9:08Speaker 5: With the Prime minister, and just on a social level,
- 9:10Speaker 5: he must have lots of liberal friends who find this
- 9:12Speaker 5: behavior really apports us.
- 9:14Speaker 3: Well, maybe he does, maybe he's got smaller liberal friends.
- 9:18Speaker 3: Louise I can't pretend to understand the motivations of Malcolm
- 9:23Speaker 3: Turnbull beyond the fact that I suspect he craves attention.
- 9:26Speaker 3: He likes doing interviews, he likes being headlines.
- 9:31Speaker 2: Likes being talked about. I think we're part of the
- 9:33Speaker 2: problem with Luiz. What do you say?
- 9:35Speaker 6: Perhaps but certain that's why he's nickname the ghost, isn't
- 9:38Speaker 6: he because he keeps sort of lurking around where he's
- 9:40Speaker 6: not wanted and coming out with very personal That's a
- 9:44Speaker 6: really personal comment to make about the new leader, isn't
- 9:47Speaker 6: it call immediate that way? And it's so unbecoming and
- 9:50Speaker 6: it's not constructive because if you really love Liberal Party,
- 9:53Speaker 6: he would step aside graciously and let the new leadership
- 9:56Speaker 6: team get on with it and bet in and actually
- 9:58Speaker 6: tackle the issues liberal voters want tackle, which is cost
- 10:02Speaker 6: of living, immigration, et cetera, et cetera. But with him
- 10:05Speaker 6: sniping from the sidelines, it adds no value and this
- 10:08Speaker 6: makes him look even more bitter than ever.
- 10:11Speaker 3: Really, Now to a bombshell submission claiming that Victoria's new
- 10:17Speaker 3: guaranteed work from home rights could see more police officers
- 10:21Speaker 3: leave the state's police force and make it more difficult to.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Recruit quality candidates.
- 10:26Speaker 3: A police association of Victoria told the Federal Parliament that
- 10:29Speaker 3: guaranteed remote work in other fields makes the mandatory station
- 10:34Speaker 3: duty and street patrols required for policing far less attractive.
- 10:39Speaker 3: That's a really interesting submission there, and they would know
- 10:43Speaker 3: precisely the impact this is having. Victoria's already facing massive
- 10:47Speaker 3: police shortages. There are hundreds of unfilled positions and forty
- 10:51Speaker 3: three police stations have either been shut down or had
- 10:54Speaker 3: their hours cut due to these shortfalls. And this is
- 10:57Speaker 3: happening Adam at a time where experiencing record rates of
- 11:02Speaker 3: crime in this city.
- 11:03Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean forty three police stations is certainly quite shocking.
- 11:06Speaker 5: And as you say, I think crime is I think
- 11:07Speaker 5: there were two hundred and thirty five thousand victims of
- 11:09Speaker 5: crime in this state last year, which is up ten percent,
- 11:11Speaker 5: and that is I think, per capita, the worst of
- 11:15Speaker 5: all of the six states I believe in Australia.
- 11:18Speaker 1: It's probably also symptomatic that I think respect for.
- 11:20Speaker 5: The police in Victoria has had fallen a lot besui
- 11:22Speaker 5: of the COVID crackdown here, so there's less inclination to join.
- 11:27Speaker 5: And that's because of the government. That's because of the
- 11:28Speaker 5: labor government. It's you know, it's a very sad state
- 11:31Speaker 5: of affairs. Forty three stations, that's a lot.
- 11:34Speaker 3: And Louise, you can understand if you've got people looking
- 11:38Speaker 3: at a career in policing, and there are other jobs,
- 11:42Speaker 3: other industries where you've got this guaranteed work from home
- 11:45Speaker 3: where you can spend a couple of days in your
- 11:47Speaker 3: pajamas and you know, been watching a bit of TV,
- 11:50Speaker 3: doing a bit of washing in between logging in. That
- 11:54Speaker 3: may be a lot more attractive to someone looking at
- 11:57Speaker 3: a new job. And when you need cares, it's just
- 12:01Speaker 3: another hurdle you've got to overcome and.
- 12:03Speaker 6: Doesn't victor any candidates through it exactly to your point,
- 12:06Speaker 6: And I mean, you cannot police from your laund room, sadly,
- 12:09Speaker 6: so you know it's something you've got to be on
- 12:11Speaker 6: the beat with. And I really feel for frontline police
- 12:13Speaker 6: who are probably thinking, you know, Decenda Allen's work from
- 12:17Speaker 6: home obsession, did she ever consider at any point how
- 12:20Speaker 6: this is going to affect essential services like policing, when
- 12:23Speaker 6: they're already demoralized, they're short staffed, the crime rates through
- 12:26Speaker 6: the roof. At the good point you made, Adam about respect,
- 12:29Speaker 6: I do feel you know, I grew up in Melbourne
- 12:31Speaker 6: and we respected police, and I've noticed from trips there
- 12:34Speaker 6: recently that people it's not the same vibe for them,
- 12:36Speaker 6: which is really disappointing because they are a critical part
- 12:39Speaker 6: of our community infrastructure. So we don't need anything deterring
- 12:43Speaker 6: people from becoming police officers. That we need more incentives,
- 12:46Speaker 6: not a work from home sort of situation.
- 12:49Speaker 3: It's just crazy, it is, But you're right there definitely
- 12:53Speaker 3: has been a shift.
- 12:54Speaker 2: Perhaps it's changing back, but it's.
- 12:57Speaker 3: Also the people who were most pro law enforcement who
- 13:02Speaker 3: have got this negative view now because of how certain
- 13:05Speaker 3: police officers behaved during the COVID crackdowns in this state.
- 13:09Speaker 3: But really that was Australia wide, more pronounced here in Melbourne.
- 13:13Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a view that the police have I think
- 13:15Speaker 5: is somehow left wing because of the COVID crackdown, But
- 13:18Speaker 5: they were just they were just doing what they were
- 13:19Speaker 5: told to do by the government, so I don't blame
- 13:21Speaker 5: them for that.
- 13:22Speaker 3: Well, the further some of them did it, and I
- 13:26Speaker 3: do think in this state the police command has become politicized,
- 13:31Speaker 3: deeply politicized. But yeah, those working at the cold face,
- 13:34Speaker 3: they're the ones who copped the brunt of all this.
- 13:37Speaker 3: Adam Crichton, Louis Roberts, thank you so much for your
- 13:39Speaker 3: time tonight. Let's turn our attention now to shocking data
- 13:44Speaker 3: showing that Australia is one of the top consumers of
- 13:47Speaker 3: live stream child abuse content in the world, along with
- 13:50Speaker 3: the UK and the US, based on reports from Childlife
- 13:54Speaker 3: and the International Justice Mission i JM also found that
- 13:58Speaker 3: most of the children be abuse and the people organizing
- 14:02Speaker 3: it are located in countries like the Philippines, Brazil and Columbia.
- 14:07Speaker 3: This comes amid a massive surge in the amount of
- 14:11Speaker 3: AI generated child exploitation videos. Joining me now is an
- 14:16Speaker 3: anti child exploitation advocate widely known as the man most
- 14:20Speaker 3: hated by Australian child sex offenders and one of South
- 14:24Speaker 3: Australia's leading lawyers, Andrew Carpenter. Andrew, we will get to
- 14:29Speaker 3: that issue of live streamed abuse shortly, but let's start
- 14:33Speaker 3: with AI. Our authorities equipped to deal with this explosion
- 14:38Speaker 3: of AI generated child abuse material.
- 14:41Speaker 8: Absolutely not. The law hasn't caught up with technology yet
- 14:44Speaker 8: and we saw in twenty twenty four there was the
- 14:46Speaker 8: Australian Mad Treatment Study which showed that one in three
- 14:49Speaker 8: girls and one in five boys will be sexually abuse
- 14:51Speaker 8: or have some form of sexual abuse for the eighteenth birthday. Now,
- 14:54Speaker 8: the hard thing here in South Australia is our government
- 14:56Speaker 8: of all concern with preventing two bikies from having a
- 14:59Speaker 8: beer at a pub than there are a thousand child
- 15:01Speaker 8: sex offenders going to a Wiggles concert. So until priorities change,
- 15:05Speaker 8: unfortunately this problem will continue.
- 15:07Speaker 3: Now Australia is said to be one of the top
- 15:09Speaker 3: consumers of live streamed child abuse content. That's a truly
- 15:15Speaker 3: evil crime. Explain to my audience what that is and
- 15:19Speaker 3: the difficulty in locating the victims and bring the perpetrators
- 15:25Speaker 3: to justice.
- 15:28Speaker 8: We're all basically starting during COVID, where the Sikos couldn't
- 15:31Speaker 8: go on their overseas holidays where they'd abuse children. So
- 15:33Speaker 8: what they do is they found a conduit in places
- 15:36Speaker 8: like Cambodia and Brazil and the Philippines to actually pay
- 15:39Speaker 8: people for sometimes the cost of a cup of copy
- 15:41Speaker 8: to actually a live stream child abuse occurring, so they
- 15:45Speaker 8: can actually coach someone into how they want to harm
- 15:47Speaker 8: a child. Now, the hard thing about authorities try and
- 15:50Speaker 8: find these people is they're not actually possessing this information
- 15:53Speaker 8: on their phone. They're live streaming it through encrypted absent
- 15:55Speaker 8: and it's gone. Now unless that the technological companies, the
- 16:00Speaker 8: ones that actually harbor this abuse and the ones that
- 16:02Speaker 8: actually enable these encrypt conversations to occur, there's probably nothing
- 16:06Speaker 8: that the Australian government can do. If you start throwing
- 16:08Speaker 8: bills and finds that these providers that actually permit this
- 16:12Speaker 8: from occurring, that's we might see actually a downturn in
- 16:16Speaker 8: these But the hard thing is it's not a problem
- 16:18Speaker 8: we can arrest out of. It's that prevalent in Australia
- 16:21Speaker 8: at the moment and it's going to keep occurring. I mean,
- 16:23Speaker 8: I'm scared to see how many percentage increase we have
- 16:27Speaker 8: in twenty twenty six.
- 16:28Speaker 3: Tell my viewers what they can do to protect their children,
- 16:33Speaker 3: their grandchildren from becoming victims.
- 16:39Speaker 8: The best thing to know is strange danger is one
- 16:41Speaker 8: of the main prevalent online abuse, but in person abuse
- 16:45Speaker 8: is actually eighty percent likely that will be curred by
- 16:48Speaker 8: a relative. Now, the one thing that I always tell
- 16:50Speaker 8: parents is make sure you are very vigilant with your
- 16:52Speaker 8: children's use of social media, especially if for're above the
- 16:55Speaker 8: age of sixteen, but also games like roadblocks, where we've
- 16:58Speaker 8: seen thirteen thousand reports last year from roadblocks being implicated
- 17:02Speaker 8: in child abuse cases. And the hard thing is say,
- 17:05Speaker 8: with Snapchat, for instance, an offender can locate your child
- 17:08Speaker 8: through the Snapchat map function within half a meter of
- 17:11Speaker 8: where they are currently sitting, So that's one of the
- 17:14Speaker 8: main things that parents need to look out for. But
- 17:16Speaker 8: again yeah, which it's scared and even shows street and
- 17:20Speaker 8: also the percentage of someone's battery. So if a defender
- 17:24Speaker 8: tracks down a child and they're at home during the
- 17:26Speaker 8: day and their parents are not, they can actually use
- 17:28Speaker 8: the location to actually obtain and use exploitation material. And
- 17:33Speaker 8: actually it's now our currency online. These sicicos are actually
- 17:36Speaker 8: using it to not any trade but funder lifestyle.
- 17:40Speaker 3: It is just so frightening, and so many parents aren't
- 17:44Speaker 3: as tech savvy as their children and sadly as these
- 17:49Speaker 3: predators that are online praying on vulnerable children. Before you go,
- 17:54Speaker 3: if you were to give one bit of advice, to
- 17:57Speaker 3: the Prime Minister one bit of policy you'd like to
- 18:00Speaker 3: see what would that be?
- 18:04Speaker 8: When twenty twenty I started a campaign called Super for Survivors,
- 18:07Speaker 8: which basically it's aimed at allowing fitt of survivors to
- 18:10Speaker 8: access the superannuation of offenders. Now, this isn't a problem
- 18:14Speaker 8: we can't arrest out of. We need to actually make
- 18:17Speaker 8: sure that these individuals are hit with everything we have
- 18:20Speaker 8: to make sure these offenses don't occur, because if they
- 18:23Speaker 8: do stand to face losing everything they work for, they
- 18:25Speaker 8: might actually slow down. And the hard thing is that
- 18:28Speaker 8: the Albanezy government doesn't want to touch offenders super, but
- 18:31Speaker 8: they're more than happy to attack Australians Super were hard
- 18:33Speaker 8: working Australians supannuation. So we need to throw everything we
- 18:36Speaker 8: can at this to make sure that these crimes decrease.
- 18:39Speaker 8: And unfortunately, with poor conviction rates, the only thing that
- 18:42Speaker 8: we could do is try to make sure that we
- 18:44Speaker 8: hit them where it hurts, and that's a hip hocket.
- 18:47Speaker 3: Andrew Carpenter, thank you so much for your time. Still
- 18:50Speaker 3: to come. Lefties Losing ad plass. The latest from the US,
- 18:54Speaker 3: including Secretary of State Marco Ruvio's blistering speech in Munich
- 18:59Speaker 3: caning the weakness of certain allies.
- 19:02Speaker 2: Josh Hammer joins me.
- 19:03Speaker 3: Next, you're watching the Reader Paney Show, and it's time
- 19:16Speaker 3: for lefties losing it.
- 19:18Speaker 2: Let's start with some happy news.
- 19:21Speaker 3: CNN has lost nearly two thirds of its viewers since
- 19:24Speaker 3: twenty sixteen. I meid growing fears the network is circling
- 19:29Speaker 3: the drain. What a happy headline that is. But I
- 19:33Speaker 3: can't imagine why CNN is struggling. After all, they have
- 19:36Speaker 3: a token conservative now it's Scott Jennings is on the network.
- 19:40Speaker 3: Here are five lefties, including the hosts, just yelling at him.
- 19:44Speaker 2: For existing.
- 19:49Speaker 7: Figure a fact.
- 19:55Speaker 3: I can't understand why that's not rating. It's hugely entertaining.
- 20:00Speaker 3: Let's have an example of the balance that seeing An
- 20:03Speaker 3: is famous for from Abby Philip. Let's see Abby's always
- 20:07Speaker 3: consistent analysis when elan Omar was sprayed with salad dressing
- 20:12Speaker 3: compared to when President Trump was shot by a deranged lefty.
- 20:17Speaker 7: Ilihan Omar in particular has been the center and you
- 20:21Speaker 7: heard it there from the President, the center of a
- 20:23Speaker 7: lot of awful attacks. He called her garbage. Donald Trump
- 20:28Speaker 7: is actually responsible for the vitriol. So is there going
- 20:32Speaker 7: to be any acknowledged acknowledgment of that should there be.
- 20:35Speaker 7: It's not about the politics of the individual. I mean,
- 20:37Speaker 7: look at these people. The thing that they have in
- 20:40Speaker 7: common is their complete lack of mental stability. Why is
- 20:43Speaker 7: that not the conversation why are we in this place
- 20:46Speaker 7: of who's to blame? Is that the Democrats are the Republicans.
- 20:49Speaker 7: The Republicans aren't trying to assassinate the Democrats, and a
- 20:53Speaker 7: lot of talk of they and when it's not when
- 20:55Speaker 7: it's not they, it's just a person. It's it's it's
- 20:58Speaker 7: an individual.
- 21:00Speaker 3: Hopefully now from transactivist Lily Tino Contino, who has gone
- 21:05Speaker 3: from being passive aggressive to aggressive aggressive. Fresh from being
- 21:10Speaker 3: investigated by authorities for filming real women in female restrooms
- 21:14Speaker 3: in Disney, Contino is claiming that if you're guilty of
- 21:18Speaker 3: the crime of misgendering, then there will be a confrontation.
- 21:22Speaker 2: Oh yes, the dudes are losing it because.
- 21:26Speaker 9: If we meet and you call me by the wrong pronouns,
- 21:28Speaker 9: it's going to be a confrontation. And I don't think
- 21:30Speaker 9: you want that. I think you just want to go
- 21:32Speaker 9: about your day. I want to go about my day.
- 21:34Speaker 9: I don't want to have to be upset about getting misgendered.
- 21:37Speaker 9: And I know you don't want to purposely upset people.
- 21:40Speaker 9: And if you do want to purposely upset people, then
- 21:43Speaker 9: you need to look in the mirror and ask yourself,
- 21:45Speaker 9: why why am I like this? Why do I want
- 21:47Speaker 9: to make people's lives harder? Why don't I want to
- 21:51Speaker 9: lift up my fellow human?
- 21:54Speaker 3: You see, it's not about making lives harder. It's about
- 21:57Speaker 3: not submitting to bullying or indulging in the delusions of
- 22:02Speaker 3: confused folk, even if those confused folk are threatening confrontational violence.
- 22:08Speaker 3: Now to Munich, where Secretary of State Marco Rubia delivered
- 22:11Speaker 3: an exceptional speech, genuinely profound, but Alexandria Carzia Cortez, well,
- 22:18Speaker 3: she wasn't impressed.
- 22:20Speaker 4: Was a pure appeal to Western culture. My favorite part
- 22:27Speaker 4: was when he said that American cowboys came from Spain.
- 22:32Speaker 4: I believe the Mexicans and descendants of African and Slam
- 22:39Speaker 4: people's would like to have a word on that.
- 22:45Speaker 3: Actually, it did originate in Spain, and AOC might also
- 22:49Speaker 3: want to reflect on why.
- 22:50Speaker 2: Mexicans speak Spanish?
- 22:53Speaker 3: How did that happen? Let's hear more from AOC here.
- 22:56Speaker 3: She talks about culture and Western civilization a.
- 23:01Speaker 4: Fluid, evolving thing that that is a response to the
- 23:05Speaker 4: conditions that we live in. And so they want to
- 23:09Speaker 4: take this mantle of culture. At the end of the day,
- 23:12Speaker 4: though is.
- 23:15Speaker 2: You know, it is very thin.
- 23:18Speaker 3: The values that underpinned Western civilization, Western culture are very thin.
- 23:25Speaker 3: W She's a Marxist and not a particularly bright one
- 23:28Speaker 3: or an eloquent one. Listen here, as I say, struggles
- 23:31Speaker 3: to answer the most obvious of questions about Taiwan.
- 23:35Speaker 10: This is painful, Would and should the US actually commit
- 23:40Speaker 10: US troops to defend Taiwan if China were to move?
- 23:45Speaker 4: You know, I think that this is such a you know,
- 23:52Speaker 4: I think that.
- 23:55Speaker 11: This is a.
- 23:58Speaker 4: This is of course, a a very long standing policy
- 24:04Speaker 4: of the United States.
- 24:05Speaker 9: Uh.
- 24:06Speaker 4: And I think what we are hoping for is that
- 24:08Speaker 4: we want to make sure that we never get to
- 24:11Speaker 4: that point.
- 24:13Speaker 3: Oh dear, They're not sending their best, are they? But
- 24:16Speaker 3: it gets worse. Also on that panel was the Democrat
- 24:20Speaker 3: governor of Michigan, Gretchen Widmar. Listen to how she flounders
- 24:24Speaker 3: trying to answer a question about Ukraine, and she even
- 24:28Speaker 3: says that IOC is much better quip to talk about
- 24:31Speaker 3: geopolitics the IOC. We just heard really goodness on Ukraine.
- 24:38Speaker 1: What does victory look like?
- 24:43Speaker 2: I love hear your answers.
- 24:48Speaker 12: It is the two.
- 24:50Speaker 11: The two that I am on the panel with are
- 24:52Speaker 11: much more steeped in foreign policy than a governor is.
- 24:56Speaker 11: But you know, I do think that Ukraine independents, keeping
- 25:01Speaker 11: their land mass and having the support of all the allies,
- 25:06Speaker 11: I think is the goal from my vantage point.
- 25:12Speaker 3: Now, compare the Democrats contribution at the Munich Security Conference
- 25:16Speaker 3: to this blistering address from the Secretary of State Micro Rubio,
- 25:20Speaker 3: who spelled out to America's European allies that the Trump
- 25:23Speaker 3: administration has no interest in being polite and oddly caretakers
- 25:28Speaker 3: of the West's managed decline.
- 25:30Speaker 2: This is brilliant. Listen to every word.
- 25:34Speaker 12: And this is why we do not want our allies
- 25:36Speaker 12: to be weak, because that makes us weaker. We want
- 25:40Speaker 12: allies who can defend themselves so that no adversary will
- 25:44Speaker 12: ever be tempted to test our collective strength. This is
- 25:47Speaker 12: why we do not want our allies to be shackled
- 25:50Speaker 12: by guilt and shame. We want allies who are proud
- 25:52Speaker 12: of their culture and of their heritage.
- 25:55Speaker 1: Who understand that we are.
- 25:56Speaker 12: Heirs to the same great and noble civilization, and who
- 26:00Speaker 12: together with us, are willing and able to defend it.
- 26:05Speaker 12: And this is why we do not want allies to
- 26:07Speaker 12: rationalize the broken status quo. Rather than a reckon Willard
- 26:10Speaker 12: is what.
- 26:11Speaker 1: Is necessary to fix it.
- 26:13Speaker 12: For we in America have no interest in being polite
- 26:18Speaker 12: and orderly caretakers of the West's managed.
- 26:21Speaker 3: Decline, and Marco Rubio made it clear that the US
- 26:26Speaker 3: alliance with Europe must be built on strength and the
- 26:30Speaker 3: values of Western civilization.
- 26:32Speaker 2: I'm warning you you may need a cold shower or
- 26:35Speaker 2: a cigarette after hearing this.
- 26:39Speaker 12: We do not seek to separate, but to revitalize an
- 26:42Speaker 12: old friendship and renew the greatest civilization in human history.
- 26:47Speaker 12: What we want is a reinvigorated alliance that recognizes that
- 26:51Speaker 12: what has ailed our societies is not just a set
- 26:53Speaker 12: of bad policies, but a malaise of hopelessness and complacency.
- 26:58Speaker 12: An alliance is what that we want is one that
- 27:01Speaker 12: is not paralyzed into an action by fear, fear of
- 27:04Speaker 12: climate change, fear of war, fear of technology. Instead, we
- 27:08Speaker 12: want an alliance that boldly races into the future. And
- 27:11Speaker 12: the only fear we have is the fear of the
- 27:14Speaker 12: shame of not leaving our nations prouder, stronger, and wealthier
- 27:18Speaker 12: for our children.
- 27:20Speaker 1: An alliance ready.
- 27:21Speaker 12: To defend our people, to safeguard our interests, and to
- 27:24Speaker 12: preserve the freedom of action that allows us to shape
- 27:27Speaker 12: our own destiny, not one that exists to operate a
- 27:30Speaker 12: global welfare state, and atone for the purported sins of
- 27:34Speaker 12: past generations.
- 27:37Speaker 3: Joining me now is Newsweek's senior editor at Large, Josh Hammer.
- 27:41Speaker 2: Josh C.
- 27:42Speaker 3: Secretary of State, received a standing ovation after that speech.
- 27:46Speaker 3: That is something to behold from the European political class.
- 27:50Speaker 3: And that speech was profound, every single word.
- 27:56Speaker 9: Rita.
- 27:56Speaker 13: It's a defining speech for Mark Rubia. He has already
- 27:59Speaker 13: been historic Secretary of State. He is the first man
- 28:01Speaker 13: since Henry Kissinger to survey the dual capacity as Secretary
- 28:05Speaker 13: of State and National security Advisor. He has arguably been
- 28:09Speaker 13: at Donald Trump's number one foreign policy advisor when it
- 28:12Speaker 13: comes to a lot of Donald Trump's louder Boulder moves
- 28:15Speaker 13: on the world stage, things like the operation in Iran
- 28:18Speaker 13: and last June, things like the Nicholas Maduro extraction in Venezuela,
- 28:22Speaker 13: just about a month and a half ago there, and
- 28:24Speaker 13: now he is coming to this venue deep in the
- 28:26Speaker 13: heart of Europe, and he's giving an absolute barn burner
- 28:30Speaker 13: of a half hour speech. Frankly, as someone who follows
- 28:33Speaker 13: Mark Willia pretty closely, I think BA actually to a
- 28:36Speaker 13: speech that he also gave in Jerusalem, and much short spech.
- 28:39Speaker 13: He gave about a six to seven and made ten
- 28:40Speaker 13: minutes speech in Jerusalem back in September to commemorate the
- 28:43Speaker 13: opening of this new archaeological excavation there in the city
- 28:46Speaker 13: of David, and he spoke very similarly about how the
- 28:49Speaker 13: origins of Western civilization were laid here in these stones
- 28:52Speaker 13: here in Jerusalem. And I kind of heard those overtones
- 28:55Speaker 13: there with his reminder to the European powers, or at
- 28:58Speaker 13: least the European former powers, that they have a rich
- 29:00Speaker 13: heritage and a rich civilizational history. And look, he's basically saying,
- 29:04Speaker 13: we don't want to divorce you. We're actually quite happy
- 29:07Speaker 13: historically with being your partners when it comes to NATO,
- 29:10Speaker 13: when it comes to the mutual thread of the Soviet Union,
- 29:13Speaker 13: the Cold War there. But guess what the calendar is
- 29:16Speaker 13: now twenty twenty six, and there are a lot of
- 29:18Speaker 13: different threats on the world stage. There is the harrowing
- 29:22Speaker 13: rise of communist China. There is the rise of Islamism there,
- 29:26Speaker 13: and if Europe wants to remain relevant, they have to
- 29:29Speaker 13: recover what they once were not doing a very good
- 29:32Speaker 13: job of that, are we there. So it's a very
- 29:33Speaker 13: solemn warning to the European leads. The fact that it
- 29:36Speaker 13: frankly was received with no shorts of applause, as you
- 29:39Speaker 13: correctly mentioned, Rita, shows that perhaps perhaps there is more
- 29:42Speaker 13: of an appetite than some of us give them credit
- 29:44Speaker 13: for for actually listening to this message. The prove ultimately,
- 29:47Speaker 13: of course, will be in the pudding on that.
- 29:49Speaker 2: It will.
- 29:50Speaker 3: I think it's a very fractured Europe right now. You've
- 29:53Speaker 3: got countries that have heard that warning that have turned
- 29:58Speaker 3: to the center rise from it to Finland, and you've
- 30:03Speaker 3: got other countries that are just further doubling down on
- 30:07Speaker 3: that leftist mentality, that neo Marxist ideology. Now I want
- 30:13Speaker 3: to play your Marco Rubio here, warning Western allies about
- 30:17Speaker 3: outsourcing their power to systems beyond their control. This sounds
- 30:21Speaker 3: like a rejection of globalization.
- 30:25Speaker 12: An alliance that does not allow its power to be outsourced, constrained,
- 30:29Speaker 12: or subordinated to systems beyond its control, one that does
- 30:33Speaker 12: not depend on others for the critical necessities of its
- 30:36Speaker 12: national life, and one that does not maintain the polite
- 30:39Speaker 12: pretense that our way of life is just one among many,
- 30:44Speaker 12: and that asked for permission before it acts.
- 30:47Speaker 3: Josh, she rejected the notion there that all cultures are equal,
- 30:51Speaker 3: something that AOC was very aggrieved about when she spoke.
- 30:56Speaker 2: Later.
- 30:57Speaker 3: He equivocally stated in that beach, the value of Western
- 31:01Speaker 3: civilization you either protect it and advance it, or you
- 31:06Speaker 3: destroyed from within.
- 31:07Speaker 13: Josh, Look, reader, Marco Rubio is a nationalist. He is
- 31:12Speaker 13: not a globalist. He is not a transnationalist. He is
- 31:14Speaker 13: an American nationalist. His views when it comes to all
- 31:16Speaker 13: sorts of issues have taken a markedly national direction, and
- 31:19Speaker 13: they have been really trending that away for many, many
- 31:21Speaker 13: years now. I actually remember back in twenty nineteen again
- 31:24Speaker 13: I fall mark group pretty closely, especially as a Floridian
- 31:27Speaker 13: by choice. He gave a speech at the Catholic University
- 31:30Speaker 13: of America I believe was in twenty nineteen articulating his
- 31:33Speaker 13: theory of economics, which you refer to as common good capitalism,
- 31:37Speaker 13: which is kind of a more nationalist, less las a
- 31:40Speaker 13: fair absolutist approach to economics there that calls for reshoring
- 31:44Speaker 13: supply chains things they're trying to produce, more manufacturing at home,
- 31:48Speaker 13: basically a rejection back then in economics when it comes
- 31:51Speaker 13: to the siren song of globalism there, Globalism certainly has
- 31:54Speaker 13: had his benefits when it comes to economics, lower prices,
- 31:57Speaker 13: free traits out are there. But the point that Rubios
- 31:59Speaker 13: makeing correctly is that it has come at a pretty
- 32:02Speaker 13: steep cost as well. And now here in Munich he's
- 32:05Speaker 13: doing a very similar thing when it comes not just
- 32:07Speaker 13: to economics, but also when it comes to culture. He
- 32:11Speaker 13: is correctly saying that not all cultures are equal. In fact,
- 32:14Speaker 13: some cultures, I would argue, I think probably Rubio would too,
- 32:18Speaker 13: are objectively better than others in pretty much every demonstrable
- 32:22Speaker 13: empirical way possible, when it comes to stands of living,
- 32:24Speaker 13: when it comes to GDP, when it comes to material wealth,
- 32:26Speaker 13: when it comes to subjective indications of personal happiness. There
- 32:30Speaker 13: and you know, this is the modern Republican party, reader,
- 32:33Speaker 13: This is the Republican Party of the twenty twenties. It's
- 32:36Speaker 13: not George W. Bush's Republican Party. Back in his second
- 32:38Speaker 13: inaugural address in January two thousand and five, Bush famously
- 32:41Speaker 13: spoke of the freedom Agenda and how is America's role
- 32:45Speaker 13: to forcibly export its idiosyncratic version of Western liberalism to
- 32:49Speaker 13: all places of the world. There he basically said that
- 32:51Speaker 13: the Taliban just wants this Jeffersonian lockey and liberalism. And
- 32:55Speaker 13: here's Mark Rubio twenty years later basically saying, actually, no,
- 32:58Speaker 13: that's not the case. There are some cultures that don't
- 33:01Speaker 13: want what we want there, and ultimately up to America
- 33:04Speaker 13: to protect her interests and then to ally with like
- 33:06Speaker 13: minded countries to better secure and protect their own regions.
- 33:10Speaker 1: There.
- 33:10Speaker 13: That's in theory where Europe comes in again. The relevant
- 33:13Speaker 13: part here is in theory.
- 33:16Speaker 3: Very similar tones to Jadie Vance's speech in Europe last year,
- 33:21Speaker 3: and that was seen as groundbreaking by many now talking
- 33:24Speaker 3: about destroying the West from within. I want to play
- 33:28Speaker 3: you a clip of former President Barack Obama claiming here
- 33:31Speaker 3: that it's Republicans and generally those on the right who
- 33:35Speaker 3: push angry, divisive US then politics.
- 33:40Speaker 10: The other side, does the mean angry Chemicgogury. You know,
- 33:47Speaker 10: exclusive us them, you know, divisive politics. That's their that's
- 33:57Speaker 10: that's their home court. Yeah, our court is coming together.
- 34:05Speaker 3: Oh wow, Josh, what's your response to that wild projection
- 34:11Speaker 3: from the former president?
- 34:13Speaker 13: You know, doesn't this guy have better things to do
- 34:15Speaker 13: with his time? I mean, I mean that's actually literally
- 34:18Speaker 13: my first take. You know, we all saw Hillary Clinton,
- 34:21Speaker 13: they are speaking at the Munich Security Conference, and you know,
- 34:24Speaker 13: I mean, whether it's her Barack Obama, I mean, don't
- 34:27Speaker 13: these old Democrats do they have nothing better to do
- 34:30Speaker 13: with their time? I mean, does Hillary Clinton not prefer
- 34:32Speaker 13: to go shill for the Qatar sponsor Clinton Foundation? Does
- 34:35Speaker 13: Barack Obama not prefer to go shill with Michelle Obama
- 34:38Speaker 13: on their multimillion dollar Netflix Netflix package? I mean, why
- 34:42Speaker 13: why do this?
- 34:43Speaker 4: First?
- 34:43Speaker 13: Well, historically speaking, it was it was the job of
- 34:46Speaker 13: former presidents to basically fade into obscurity. And it's very
- 34:49Speaker 13: notable that Barack Usaint Obama was the first president to
- 34:52Speaker 13: not leave Washington, DC. I cannot emphasize this point to Enoughrito.
- 34:57Speaker 13: There was a long tradition going back a century entry
- 35:00Speaker 13: and a half, a very very long time in America
- 35:02Speaker 13: where you would physically move out, because that was a
- 35:04Speaker 13: symbol that you were going to remove yourself and fade
- 35:07Speaker 13: out of the public eye.
- 35:09Speaker 1: George W.
- 35:09Speaker 13: Bush, for instance, he had many flaws at president, but
- 35:12Speaker 13: to his great credit, he went totally out of the picture.
- 35:14Speaker 8: There.
- 35:15Speaker 13: He went bath to Dallas, Texas. He focused on painting.
- 35:17Speaker 13: He was taking art classes. Can't Barack Obama just take
- 35:20Speaker 13: art classes. He's just such a narcissist. I mean, he
- 35:24Speaker 13: just can't avoid the public image. So that's my very
- 35:27Speaker 13: first takeaway. I think the second takeaway is, dude, what
- 35:31Speaker 13: are you smoking? I mean, this is the guy who, famously,
- 35:34Speaker 13: on the prespice of being elected president in two thousand
- 35:36Speaker 13: and eight, said that he was out there and that
- 35:39Speaker 13: he was going to stick it to the bitter clingers
- 35:41Speaker 13: who were bitterly clinging to their guns and their religion.
- 35:45Speaker 13: Just days before he was elected over John McCain, he
- 35:47Speaker 13: said that we are days away from fundamentally transforming the
- 35:51Speaker 13: United States of America, and it should be self evidence
- 35:53Speaker 13: that one does not seek to fundamentally transform that which
- 35:56Speaker 13: he loves. And frankly, most Americans love their country. So
- 36:00Speaker 13: you want to talk about divisive, Well that was pretty divisive.
- 36:03Speaker 13: His whole presidency was divisive, actually the Obamacare statue, the
- 36:06Speaker 13: Aron Nuclear deal. But this that there when he famously
- 36:09Speaker 13: stood over a Paul Ryan, Eric Canterer said, hey, guys,
- 36:12Speaker 13: I won, you lost. As his justification a passing Obamacare.
- 36:16Speaker 13: So he's the last person in the world who's talking
- 36:19Speaker 13: about this. There, the hutzper, frankly is through the roof.
- 36:22Speaker 13: But again, as I said, this is the guy who
- 36:23Speaker 13: famously refused to move out of DC because he just
- 36:26Speaker 13: thinks that he is that much brighter and more special
- 36:30Speaker 13: than everyone else. Guess what he's not.
- 36:33Speaker 3: Well, maybe he didn't move out of DC because he
- 36:35Speaker 3: had that infamous the term. Under the Biden years, there
- 36:39Speaker 3: was a lot of conjecture about really who was calling
- 36:42Speaker 3: the shots, because we know it wasn't Joe Biden. He
- 36:44Speaker 3: was not cognitively sound throughout much of that present presidency. Now,
- 36:50Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier in Lefties Losing It that CNN has
- 36:53Speaker 3: lost nearly two thirds of its viewership since twenty sixteen,
- 36:58Speaker 3: just an incredible decar and when compared to the same
- 37:02Speaker 3: part of the year in twenty twenty one, the drops
- 37:06Speaker 3: were even more pronounced Josh seventy one percent for prime
- 37:10Speaker 3: time and seventy three percent during the day. This is
- 37:12Speaker 3: according to the latest Nielsen ratings. How can they reverse this, Josh,
- 37:18Speaker 3: or do they even have an appetite for reversing it?
- 37:21Speaker 3: Because they have become an activist network, ratings and breaking
- 37:27Speaker 3: news don't seem to be a huge consideration.
- 37:32Speaker 13: Read Frankly, I don't know that they actually want to
- 37:35Speaker 13: turn this round. I genuinely am not because, Frankly, viewers,
- 37:41Speaker 13: I've been fleeing the network for years and years and years,
- 37:43Speaker 13: and they've done virtually nothing to try to change course.
- 37:47Speaker 13: There are precisely two people on CNN who are worth watching.
- 37:50Speaker 13: One is my Salem colleague Scott Jennings, who is absolutely
- 37:54Speaker 13: amazing and owns the libs there on a seemingly day in,
- 37:56Speaker 13: day out basis. The other is Harry Anton, who I've
- 37:58Speaker 13: known since we were eighteen years old Gonna Go way Back,
- 38:01Speaker 13: who is just a very funny, well spoken, purely objective,
- 38:04Speaker 13: nerdy polls guy. He's no ideology, no policy, no nothing,
- 38:09Speaker 13: just pure entertainment kind down the polls. So the only
- 38:11Speaker 13: two people that have any kind of core of viewership
- 38:14Speaker 13: these days are onely tooken conservative to the totally non
- 38:17Speaker 13: ideological nerdy polls guide there. As for all the other
- 38:20Speaker 13: jokers there, Jake Tapper, wolf Blitzer got Caitlyn Collins, My
- 38:24Speaker 13: god there. I mean, who's watching these people? I mean, like,
- 38:28Speaker 13: who was the person who was getting up the morning
- 38:30Speaker 13: and say, oh, my god, I cannot wait to see
- 38:32Speaker 13: what Caitlyn Collins or Aaron Burnett says on CNN's day.
- 38:36Speaker 13: I mean, that demographic to the extent that ever existed,
- 38:38Speaker 13: simply does not exist anymore. And it's actually not just
- 38:41Speaker 13: a cable news thing. A lot of people say, oh,
- 38:44Speaker 13: people are fleeing cable news in general. Not true. Actually,
- 38:47Speaker 13: Fox News currently is putting up the greatest numbers in
- 38:50Speaker 13: the history of American cable news. So people are definitely
- 38:54Speaker 13: not fleeing Fox News. They're fleeing CNN faster than you
- 38:57Speaker 13: could say wolf Blitzer though, because they've been offered this
- 39:00Speaker 13: scene barely warmed over pablum for years and years and years.
- 39:03Speaker 13: And you know, there's some rumors as to whether or
- 39:05Speaker 13: not the owners might seek to divest CNN there, but
- 39:09Speaker 13: either way, this is not going to have a happy
- 39:11Speaker 13: ending if they continue in the current route.
- 39:14Speaker 3: Well, their digital traffic ause a lot of people point
- 39:17Speaker 3: to online viewership because that's growing at a rapid pace.
- 39:23Speaker 3: But again CNN seems to be struggling there against competitors.
- 39:27Speaker 3: So it's the product, it's the content that people are rejecting.
- 39:32Speaker 3: Josh Hamma, thank you so much for your time tonight.
- 39:35Speaker 2: Thank you still to come.
- 39:37Speaker 3: A famous TEDS sufferer is heading back to the US.
- 39:41Speaker 3: Kinsey Schofield has the details.
- 39:54Speaker 2: Welcome back, joining me now, celebrity and royal commentator Kinsey Schofield.
- 39:59Speaker 2: Kin Let's start with Rosie O'Donnell.
- 40:02Speaker 3: Who's admitted to secretly returning to the US to suss
- 40:06Speaker 3: out whether it's still safe for her after President Trump
- 40:09Speaker 3: threatened to revoke her citizenship following her move to Ireland
- 40:13Speaker 3: last year. We will remember her fleeing to Ireland. Can
- 40:17Speaker 3: see this is hilarious on so many levels.
- 40:20Speaker 2: Tell me more, I know.
- 40:22Speaker 14: I mean, multiple ice incidents and protests all over the
- 40:26Speaker 14: country and Rosie's like, let me go home, let me
- 40:28Speaker 14: see if everything's okay. It's remarkable she made a very
- 40:31Speaker 14: public move overseas framed as political fear. Now she's coming home.
- 40:36Speaker 14: That tells you everything. That reality rarely matches the rhetoric.
- 40:40Speaker 14: Celebrity political exits often generate headlines, but most of them
- 40:44Speaker 14: still maintain ties to the US because their careers, audiences,
- 40:49Speaker 14: and business interests are here. Miilee Cyrus, I'm looking at you.
- 40:53Speaker 14: It feels less like exile and more like just you know,
- 40:56Speaker 14: pr Spin just a little hissy fit.
- 41:00Speaker 3: Now talking about attention seekers and hisy fits an ex
- 41:05Speaker 3: ESPN personality. Sarah Spain has unleashed an attack on Vice
- 41:10Speaker 3: President jd Vance after sitting near him at the Winter Olympics.
- 41:14Speaker 2: She said, when I see.
- 41:16Speaker 3: Jd Vance's eyeliner face, I literally feel ill.
- 41:21Speaker 2: I said, I feel like.
- 41:22Speaker 3: I just looked at a demon, like the devil, and
- 41:26Speaker 3: I don't even believe in that. I mean, this woman
- 41:29Speaker 3: needs help. She needs professional help. That's what I think
- 41:34Speaker 3: her loved ones should be organizing. But Kinsey, what triggered
- 41:39Speaker 3: this out burst? Surely can't just speak that she was
- 41:43Speaker 3: in the same vicinity as the veep.
- 41:46Speaker 14: I think, sadly it is. You're right, we're calling for
- 41:49Speaker 14: an intervention. This is just an example of that political
- 41:53Speaker 14: discourse that's personal insult instead of actual debate, not giving
- 41:59Speaker 14: that the benefit of the doubt. I mean saying you
- 42:02Speaker 14: feel physically or just sitting next to someone is performative
- 42:06Speaker 14: outrage and honestly, these kinds of comments usually backfire on
- 42:10Speaker 14: these personalities because they make the individual look emotional rather
- 42:15Speaker 14: than persuasive. Voters tend to respond better to arguments about
- 42:19Speaker 14: policy versus, in this case, a hormonal hissy fit.
- 42:25Speaker 2: And also, whatever your politics. JD.
- 42:29Speaker 3: Vans is known as one of the nicest guys, one
- 42:32Speaker 3: of the most genuine people in DC, who actually loves
- 42:35Speaker 3: his wife and has a really beautiful family. To so
- 42:39Speaker 3: look at that and see something demonic, I think you
- 42:42Speaker 3: need help, lady, you need help now. She's going to
- 42:45Speaker 3: be triggered by this next story because the Millennia documentary
- 42:50Speaker 3: continues to see huge success. It was the highest opening
- 42:53Speaker 3: documentary in a decade, and despite receiving just widespread hate
- 43:00Speaker 3: from the critics, all sorts of really terrible reviews, Kinzi,
- 43:05Speaker 3: it's doing really well at the box office.
- 43:08Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, I think the success of this documentary
- 43:10Speaker 14: shows there was always public curiosity about Milania that the
- 43:14Speaker 14: media underestimated.
- 43:16Speaker 2: Vogue, We're looking at you.
- 43:18Speaker 14: She's one of the most private modern first ladies, which
- 43:21Speaker 14: actually increases audience's fascination with her and you know, when
- 43:25Speaker 14: critics dismiss her, it tends to energize viewers who feel
- 43:29Speaker 14: like she's been misunderstood. I think the strong ratings or
- 43:33Speaker 14: reaction prove there's a huge market for her story, whether
- 43:36Speaker 14: political commentators like it or not.
- 43:40Speaker 2: Now let's talk about the Royals.
- 43:42Speaker 3: Meghan Markol has shared the first ever photo of four
- 43:46Speaker 3: year old Lily Bett's face. This is the first time
- 43:48Speaker 3: we've seen her face. This was in a Valentine's Day
- 43:51Speaker 3: post on Instagram, where she wrote that husband Prince Harry
- 43:54Speaker 3: and their two children are her forever Valentine's kinsey.
- 43:58Speaker 14: That's niceah, really, color me senecal. I think that there's
- 44:03Speaker 14: reeks of hypocrisy after just days ago, we literally watched
- 44:08Speaker 14: Prince Harry have a ment be mental breakdown in front
- 44:12Speaker 14: of a group of bereaved parents who lost their children
- 44:15Speaker 14: to online bullying and social media. So Harry goes and
- 44:19Speaker 14: is crying in front of these people about how the
- 44:22Speaker 14: Internet is evil, social media is evil, and days later,
- 44:25Speaker 14: Megan slaps a picture of Lily on Instagram. I mean,
- 44:30Speaker 14: I'm sorry, but these two are not on the same page.
- 44:34Speaker 3: They're certainly not on the same page that I think
- 44:36Speaker 3: we're going to agree on now at Tourney General Pam
- 44:39Speaker 3: Bondi has finally released the Epstein Least, a collection of
- 44:43Speaker 3: three hundred politicians and prominent people who were named in
- 44:47Speaker 3: the files, telling Congress that all the documents that the
- 44:51Speaker 3: Department of Justice was required to reveal have now been
- 44:54Speaker 3: made public. Cansey, are there big names that are going
- 44:58Speaker 3: to be worried about this release?
- 45:00Speaker 14: I mean I looked. I think like we had this
- 45:03Speaker 14: conversation last week where Joe Rogan was like, look, I'm
- 45:05Speaker 14: on the list because I refuse to meet with him.
- 45:09Speaker 2: And that's what we're saying.
- 45:10Speaker 14: A lot of pushback because there are a lot of names,
- 45:12Speaker 14: Megan Markles on this list. There are a lot of
- 45:15Speaker 14: names on this list, and there are people that, in
- 45:17Speaker 14: no way, shape or form had anything to do with
- 45:20Speaker 14: Jeffrey Epstein. So I would like beg people to keep
- 45:23Speaker 14: that in mind before judging someone because their name is
- 45:27Speaker 14: on the list. Jeffrey Epstein cultivated powerful contacts everywhere from
- 45:32Speaker 14: politics to business to entertainment. The real question investigators look
- 45:37Speaker 14: for is evidence of criminal participation, not just associations. So yes,
- 45:41Speaker 14: prominent names do appear on this list, but what matters
- 45:45Speaker 14: legally is whether there's proof tied to actual offenses.
- 45:51Speaker 11: Now.
- 45:51Speaker 3: Sources told The UK Times that King Chiles did not
- 45:55Speaker 3: contribute to the twelve million dollar pound payout made by
- 45:59Speaker 3: his brother Andrew mount Batten Windsor to settle a case
- 46:02Speaker 3: brought against Seem by Virginia Jiuffrey, who accused the former
- 46:07Speaker 3: prince of having sex with her when she was just
- 46:09Speaker 3: seventeen years old, and she said she was trafficked to London.
- 46:14Speaker 2: By Jeffrey Epstein.
- 46:15Speaker 3: Kinsey, there's no doubt that this whole issue is having
- 46:21Speaker 3: a detrimental effect on the Royals. We saw Prince of
- 46:25Speaker 3: King Charles, I should say heckled last week. I mean,
- 46:28Speaker 3: that doesn't happen to the Royals. He was asked about
- 46:32Speaker 3: when he knew about his brother's association with Jeffrey Epstein.
- 46:37Speaker 2: How are they going to handle this going forward?
- 46:40Speaker 14: Well, first of all, thank you for giving me the
- 46:42Speaker 14: opportunity to respond to this story, because I found out
- 46:45Speaker 14: about the original accusation in real time and I reacted organically.
- 46:49Speaker 14: I was like, I'm horrified. I can't defend the royal
- 46:52Speaker 14: family anymore. But here we have the royal family and
- 46:54Speaker 14: King Charles specifically saying, actually, I did not contribute, and
- 46:58Speaker 14: this distinction matters in farmously for the monarchy. If the
- 47:01Speaker 14: King didn't personally find Andrew's settlement, it reinforces the Palace's
- 47:06Speaker 14: position that Andrew's legal problems are his own responsibility. The
- 47:10Speaker 14: King has spent years trying to slim down the working
- 47:12Speaker 14: monarchy and distance the institution from scandal. Financial separation is
- 47:17Speaker 14: part of protecting the Crown's credibility. And again, exile, exile, exile.
- 47:22Speaker 14: We don't want to see Andrew, we don't want to
- 47:24Speaker 14: hear from him, and it's my understanding he's currently under
- 47:26Speaker 14: investigation and potentially in trouble for sharing government secrets, so
- 47:30Speaker 14: it might not be so easy to get rid of him.
- 47:34Speaker 3: Goodness may Now, let's move on to actress and comic
- 47:37Speaker 3: Amy Schumer, who's posted a selfie of herself in front
- 47:40Speaker 3: of a crying corner banner for her first Valentine's Day
- 47:44Speaker 3: since announcing her divorce from husband Chris Fisher Kinsey. Is
- 47:49Speaker 3: this comedy or is it genuinely sad? I thought she
- 47:53Speaker 3: was having a glow up and living her best life.
- 47:57Speaker 14: Yeah, we miss her dirty carpet. What happened into all
- 48:00Speaker 14: of those those photo shoots she was taking along the carpet,
- 48:03Speaker 14: they needed a steam cleaning. I mean, divorce is obviously painful,
- 48:07Speaker 14: but Amy has always processed personal moments publicly posting something
- 48:12Speaker 14: like a crying corner fits her brand and turning drama
- 48:14Speaker 14: into content.
- 48:16Speaker 2: It just feels so cheap to me.
- 48:18Speaker 14: Celebrities today they monetize their failure and sharing messy life transformations.
- 48:22Speaker 14: I guess it strengthens audience connection. So I don't know.
- 48:27Speaker 14: I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and say
- 48:29Speaker 14: she's trying to relate to her audience, But a little
- 48:31Speaker 14: piece of me feels like, you know, she's trying to
- 48:33Speaker 14: get that money, honey. She knows it'll attract a lot
- 48:35Speaker 14: of likes and clicks.
- 48:38Speaker 2: It is.
- 48:38Speaker 3: It is very relatable, so I'm sure it's going to
- 48:41Speaker 3: get plenty of clicks. But what about the concerns her
- 48:44Speaker 3: friends had about some of those social media posts.
- 48:47Speaker 2: There was a series of bathing suit pictures in her
- 48:51Speaker 2: living room with that carpet you mentioned. Is that been handled?
- 48:56Speaker 2: Is she okay?
- 48:58Speaker 14: Well, she was called out for that. I think she
- 49:01Speaker 14: was embarrassed by that, and we did see her pivot,
- 49:04Speaker 14: We saw her change her content. This is going back
- 49:07Speaker 14: to flirting with her personal life a little bit more.
- 49:11Speaker 14: But we haven't seen her on any bikinis lately, and
- 49:14Speaker 14: I'd like to thank the Lord Jesus Christ for that.
- 49:18Speaker 3: Kitsy Schofield, thank you so much for your time, and
- 49:21Speaker 3: that's all the time we have tonight.
- 49:23Speaker 2: I'll see you at eleven tomorrow night. Don't go anywhere.
- 49:26Speaker 2: New Tonight is up next.