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Oscar Preview 2026 part 2 · Cuff’s Basement

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  Speaker 1: The Welcome Back to the Oscar pod for twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: six Oscars All right, it.
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  Speaker 3: Was like me and Erica trying to leave, like you
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  Speaker 3: pulled us back in Eric.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, oh here we are here with Eric Lee Hi and.
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  Speaker 3: Peter McDougall.
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  Speaker 1: Peter McDougal, are you mcdoug's the dog the Duke's Duke's
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  Speaker 1: I think it's your I think you're up as we
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  Speaker 1: so so far we went through last time around. Number
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  Speaker 1: ten was f one, Number nine was Frankenstein, Number eight
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  Speaker 1: was Sentimental Value. Number seven was Martin Supreme. So we
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  Speaker 1: were going to Numero.
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  Speaker 3: Trace.
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  Speaker 1: What is sixth in Spanish? Never to face Sace. I
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  Speaker 1: should have known that says we're going to numeros Sace,
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  Speaker 1: which is for a movie that's not in Spanish. It
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  Speaker 1: is The Secret Agent. Brian had it seven, I had
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  Speaker 1: it eight, Eric had it three? Is this my fablement
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  Speaker 1: of the year? Now? Actually, wait, no, it's Eric's turn
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  Speaker 1: to go over a movie and he had a three.
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  Speaker 1: So Eric, you start, why sell me on this movie?
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  Speaker 1: Because obviously I didn't like it as much as you.
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  Speaker 4: So this movie takes place in Brazil. It's available for
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  Speaker 4: rental only, right, that's correct.
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  Speaker 3: We'll be on Hulu the first tomorrow on Hulu.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, so by the time this comes out listeners,
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  Speaker 1: we'll have Acciss on Hulu.
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  Speaker 4: This is like what a noir political thriller type movie.
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  Speaker 4: It's set in nineteen seventy seven Brazil. It's in Portuguese.
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  Speaker 1: And this is a movie I texted you I had
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  Speaker 1: watched it one evening.
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  Speaker 4: I've watched an hour of it. It's another long movie.
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  Speaker 4: And I'd seen I think a trailer like months prior,
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  Speaker 4: and I thought, like, should I watch a trailer, like
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  Speaker 4: refresh myself about what this movie's even about? And I didn't,
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  Speaker 4: and so I just started watching it, and after an
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  Speaker 4: hour in I thought, I have no idea what this
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  Speaker 4: movie is about. I don't know, like is he is
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  Speaker 4: he the secret agent? Like why is he on the run?
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  Speaker 1: But it's basically it's this guy, Marcello, and he's like
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  Speaker 1: driving in a car and he's like kind of trying
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  Speaker 1: to stay on the down low, and he gets into
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  Speaker 1: this house and everyone else kind of living in this
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  Speaker 1: apartment building seems like they're sort of hiding from people too,
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  Speaker 1: and you don't quite know why. And it's revealed to
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  Speaker 1: you in drips and drabs throughout the movie a bit
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  Speaker 1: of his backstory and why he is keeping a low profile.
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  Speaker 1: And I think Ryan described it as a slow burn.
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  Speaker 1: I agree.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it kind of grew and grew, and there
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  Speaker 4: is like pretty dramatic crescendo near the end of the movie.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that the main actor, what is.
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  Speaker 4: His name, Wagner Moora, was really good Narcos. You played
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  Speaker 4: Civil War right, Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's in civil war.
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  Speaker 4: I forgot that he's right that.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he was really good. I thought the movie
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  Speaker 1: looked very good, like they were going for kind of
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  Speaker 1: like a seventies sort of aesthetic.
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  Speaker 3: I thought.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it looked it looks great, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I liked the brazil kind of culture stuff. I thought
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  Speaker 4: it was surprisingly funny and there's like some weird off
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  Speaker 4: ball moments like the leg for example.
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  Speaker 1: It's really not stressful or suspenseful, even though he's like
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  Speaker 1: being hunted down. Yeah, it's kind of funny and it's
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  Speaker 1: just like chilling in the city. Really. Yeah, but you
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  Speaker 1: know I would I say, like, you gotta, you gotta
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  Speaker 1: see this movie, like this is gonna again, Like maybe not,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm glad I watched it. I don't think I
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  Speaker 1: would have watched this but for it being nominated for
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  Speaker 1: an Academy Award, and I enjoyed it and it grew
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  Speaker 1: on me. Anything. It was lower on both of your lists.
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  Speaker 1: I think I want to hear Ryan's sake, but just
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  Speaker 1: to mention, like, other than the City of God, I
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  Speaker 1: really have not seen a Brazilian movie in my life.
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  Speaker 1: And then last year I'm Still Here, which was a
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  Speaker 1: Brazilian movie. He was nominated for Best Picture, and it
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  Speaker 1: was about I didn't know this, but in the seventies
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  Speaker 1: there was like a complete political upheaval in Brazil and
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  Speaker 1: this right wing sort of corrupt government was causing liberal
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  Speaker 1: people to like disappear. And that's what I'm still here
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  Speaker 1: is about. And then so I learned at all last
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  Speaker 1: year and then a year later another Brazilian movie about
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  Speaker 1: the same topic. It's nominated for Best Picture. So I
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  Speaker 1: thought that was kind of wild, But Ryan learned your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on this.
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  Speaker 3: I saw this in theaters, so again like it kind
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  Speaker 3: of like forces you to watch the whole thing. I
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  Speaker 3: felt the exact same way, like the beginning, like the
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  Speaker 3: first hour, it's like, man, I and this is probably
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  Speaker 3: just dumb American guy, but I was like, I'm really
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  Speaker 3: lost here and what's going on? And it sounds toopid.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I'm really.
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  Speaker 1: Lost, and I think you're supposed to be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean we are. We are not Brazilian, like we
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  Speaker 1: don't have that context, but it's still intentionally like I
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  Speaker 1: think you're supposed to kind of wonder, you know, what's
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  Speaker 1: going on.
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  Speaker 3: I also think too, where they kind of like wiring
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  Speaker 3: it if you will, where like, hey, you just you
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  Speaker 3: have to keep up with this, like you like, we're
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  Speaker 3: not going to boo feed this to you. But when
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  Speaker 3: they get to a certain like dinner, you're kind of like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I see where this is going. I also, this movie
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  Speaker 3: is just great. Sorry, this movie had such great faces.
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  Speaker 3: Like the guy who was the assassin. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: that's the scariest hum being received my entire life. That's
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  Speaker 3: definitely him. And also just how they hired him. They're like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: like two thousand dollars kill this guy.
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  Speaker 1: So his name's Wagner Mora Rights. Yeah, Okay, if he
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  Speaker 1: won Best Actor, I'd be totally fine.
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  Speaker 3: I actually I was saying, you guys when we're texting,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I actually think he might win. I think
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  Speaker 3: he actually think he might win. Honestly, I'd be totally fine.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be mad about him. He was like very
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  Speaker 3: like I was saying it. I was saying, I was saying, Joe,
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  Speaker 3: a coworker has seen it, and I was like, he
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  Speaker 3: really was, Like even though he was not like a
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  Speaker 3: secret agent in like the way you assume like he
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  Speaker 3: was already just like a guy on the run. I
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  Speaker 3: was like, he probably probably awesome James Bond. He just
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  Speaker 3: seemed like very charismatic, very charming. You know, he was
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  Speaker 3: not playing that kind of role in this movie.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he's traditionally handsome enough to play James Bond.
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  Speaker 1: I found him. No, no, no, no, he is handsome.
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  Speaker 1: He's not. There's a lot of women who are very
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  Speaker 1: attractive that are not traditionally attractive.
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  Speaker 3: I did want to point out one thing about this
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  Speaker 3: movie is I could be wrong. I'm trying to find
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  Speaker 3: this now where or was talking? There are two movies
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  Speaker 3: this year that have a two faced cat. This is
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  Speaker 3: one of them.
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  Speaker 1: Was the other two face cats.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to find because I know because
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  Speaker 3: I remember. I was like, this is bizarre.
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  Speaker 1: This is same cat. Danmil craig kind of looks like,
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  Speaker 1: how do you do it? I guess yeah, he kind
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  Speaker 1: of looks like the guy from Mad magazine. So he's
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  Speaker 1: traditionally handsome.
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  Speaker 3: Either he got his body, yeah, he's got for sure,
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  Speaker 3: But like I really the like scene, of course is wacky.
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  Speaker 3: The director, I guess. I have not seen it yet,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm dying to see it. It had made a
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  Speaker 3: movie called Bakara, which is about how drones show up
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  Speaker 3: in a part of Brazil and people don't know why
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  Speaker 3: they're there and the causes just mass chaos and it's
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  Speaker 3: supposed to be like absolutely really really funny. So I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if it's like sensibilities are more comedic, but
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  Speaker 3: I I thought, to me, there was one very tense
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  Speaker 3: part is when the assassin guy is following the dad
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  Speaker 3: and I thought he was going to kill the dad first,
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, don't fucking do this to me, please, like,
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  Speaker 3: please don't do this. But very interesting how it ended
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  Speaker 3: to it was a very interesting way to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Extremely so I thought it was interesting, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if I liked it. So the reason this was
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  Speaker 1: high on my list and I didn't like it as
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  Speaker 1: much as Eric, I thought it was well also because
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  Speaker 1: you were saying you felt lost after I watched this movie.
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  Speaker 1: I read the Wikipedia and when you read the part
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  Speaker 1: about the leg, it sounds completely insane reading the Wikipedia
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  Speaker 1: descript Yes, but anyways, I won't spoil that. But there's
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  Speaker 1: a part about a severed leg that's like very funny.
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  Speaker 1: And I so this movie was very very well acted,
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  Speaker 1: looked really cool, the seventies look of the city and
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  Speaker 1: the way it was like just everything about it. Enjoyed
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  Speaker 1: the ride like it was I was on board. I
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  Speaker 1: was interested in what was happening. But while like for me,
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  Speaker 1: it's way too long. Nothing really happens, Like even though
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  Speaker 1: it's about a guy who's trying to like there are
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  Speaker 1: hit men trying to kill him from the government, it's
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  Speaker 1: like that's the plot of the Born Identity, but nothing
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  Speaker 1: really happens. And then you're with this guy for three
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  Speaker 1: hours and then the choices they make on like the
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  Speaker 1: ending and what ends up happening. I was just like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so I just you know, like it wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Okay, well I thought I thought it was.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was cool. How different of a choice
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  Speaker 1: that was.
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  Speaker 3: Oh definitely, yeah, I thought the what was interesting about
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  Speaker 3: it was like the also they did the build up
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  Speaker 3: of like him trying to find the identity of his mother,
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  Speaker 3: like find her name. Yeah, and like he was like
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  Speaker 3: trying to do it like the re litigious way of
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  Speaker 3: like trying to go through the files and find it
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  Speaker 3: and kind of do it the right way, and the
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  Speaker 3: villains were trying to find information the wrong way. And
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  Speaker 3: it was kind of proved. I don't know if he's
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  Speaker 3: making a point where like the good they're doing it
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  Speaker 3: the right way, you can't win or you won't win. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and but I agree where like that definitely the ending
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  Speaker 3: is different, but also like I'm not sure I ultimately interpreted,
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  Speaker 3: like if there was meant to be a meaning in
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  Speaker 3: the ending where like, hey, guess what, some things just
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  Speaker 3: don't go that way, right. You just never know because
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  Speaker 3: like what the character says to the other character, he's right,
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  Speaker 3: He's like, I barely knew this person in my head.
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  Speaker 3: I barely knew him. So like you if you actually
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  Speaker 3: know him better than I do. Yeah, And it's like,
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  Speaker 3: but I remember seeing Jaws with my grandfather. That's the
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  Speaker 3: interesting thing. So it's kind of this bizarre I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: it's weird, but yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I wouldn't. I would not tell anyone
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  Speaker 1: that was like, I really want to see some of
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  Speaker 1: the Best Picture nominations this year. What should I watch?
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  Speaker 1: I would not like Sarah, I would not be like
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  Speaker 1: watched The Secret Agent.
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  Speaker 3: I would not say that. Yeah, I kind of u
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  Speaker 3: turn that from mine, but I was saying which number
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  Speaker 3: I had it up?
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  Speaker 1: But I was yeah, yeah, I agree with that assessment.
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  Speaker 1: And there's more that I was glad to have watched this,
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  Speaker 1: like I thought about it. Yeah, I enjoyed it while
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  Speaker 1: it was happening, and I wouldn't have watched it but
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  Speaker 1: for the Academy Awards, whereas all the other ones were
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  Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, Sugg shrugs.
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  Speaker 3: For me, similar to I'm still here, like I read
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  Speaker 3: that like Tim Sailly he read the Wikipedia after like
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  Speaker 3: how much of the historical nature of this is true?
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  Speaker 3: It's just like again like totally like it's corny as
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  Speaker 3: that sounds very educational because you're like, wow, like this
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  Speaker 3: was going on, this was happening.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, Okay, should we move on?
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  Speaker 3: Sure?
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  Speaker 1: I think you have to. This is I think I
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  Speaker 1: bought this. Did you guys rent it? We mentioned it
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  Speaker 1: was for rental? Oh Vegas odds. Vegas odds are less
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sorry, that's right.
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  Speaker 4: Vegas odds are less than one percent to win, and
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  Speaker 4: Best Actor he's only five point two percent.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So if bet money on him to win and
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  Speaker 1: if you lose, get mad at Ryan, I'm I would
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  Speaker 1: bet on this for International Feature Film. You know, the
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  Speaker 1: odds say it's only twenty six percent. And the Scars
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  Speaker 1: a Guarde movie. I weirdly think because and we can
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  Speaker 1: say a thing now that because already talked about Marty
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  Speaker 1: Supreme Timothy Gellamy going too hard in the paint with
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  Speaker 1: the promotion on it, I think and turn people off
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  Speaker 1: of it as much as onto it. Yeah, and the
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  Speaker 1: degradation they're doing just enough. They're not like, I know,
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't want a ton of stuff, but I feel like, again,
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  Speaker 1: you never know, we can't really predict this, but like
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  Speaker 1: I feel like when you over promote, you can hurt
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  Speaker 1: yourself as much as help yourself. I feel like with
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  Speaker 1: Marty Supreme as best actor and then with sentimental value,
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  Speaker 1: it's almost they're going too much with them and that
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  Speaker 1: might repulse people.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, but.
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  Speaker 1: My thought for for Shalom is that he went so
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  Speaker 1: hard last year with uh, Bob don he is he
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  Speaker 1: still around? Bob? Is he gonna call in? We'll see, Well,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see. But I feel like people might be like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, like you know, you're gonna keep doing this
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  Speaker 1: until we get it, Like, all right, we'll give it
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  Speaker 1: to you, Yeah, but we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like to like their whole thing. I'm curious,
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  Speaker 3: like he is just so young, they're gonna be like
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  Speaker 3: do like not yeah, like not wait ten years and
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  Speaker 3: like or is it gonna be like a sad thing
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  Speaker 3: where like it's more infuriating as Tim brought it up
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  Speaker 3: and we did the thing where like they have to
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  Speaker 3: give it to you for something and then you do
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  Speaker 3: something like it like to Capa, you're like winning for
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  Speaker 3: the Revenant and then does something way.
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  Speaker 1: Better after and you're like, what did you do better after?
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  Speaker 3: Once? One time in Hollywood? Was wow, way better? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: And it was just like, are you fucking kidding me?
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  Speaker 3: He's titled for that. It's like really Wolf of Wall
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  Speaker 3: Street even the year before the year after.
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  Speaker 1: He's that he could have won for ever.
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  Speaker 3: You know. Agreed, agreed, but I'm just curious about that.
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  Speaker 3: But I agree Art that I think it'll It's it's
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  Speaker 3: a low percentage on the Best International Feature, but I
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  Speaker 3: could see it winning.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So that was Yeah. Eric just said his middle
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  Speaker 1: could like on any given day, it could change, and
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  Speaker 1: I totally agree. My top two were pretty clear, My
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  Speaker 1: bottom two are pretty clear, and then three through eight,
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  Speaker 1: like you could shuffle them and I'd be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that honestly, honestly, nothing was clear for me, Like my
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  Speaker 1: ten nine were not clear. Even my one was not clear.
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  Speaker 1: Like I honestly had a bunch of at least three
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  Speaker 1: movies that I considered to.
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  Speaker 3: Be one interesting. Yeah, I mean, actually that's kind of great.
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  Speaker 3: Though in my opinion, I think when something that's like
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  Speaker 3: a landslide like this, it's the one. It's kind of
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  Speaker 3: boring and it's spoiled. But like, also I think like
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  Speaker 3: when there's less like this is an interesting group of
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  Speaker 3: nominees where I feel like in the past, I think actually,
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  Speaker 3: since we've been doing this, we've it's probably because of us. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I think so the nominees have been more interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I think so definitely.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like when it was in the past where
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  Speaker 3: you're like five of these are just like reading a
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  Speaker 3: fucking dictionary and it's like, yeah, okay, but this is
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  Speaker 3: the dumbest way to put that possible.
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  Speaker 1: But no, I mean that it's a great way to
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  Speaker 1: put it actually, but okay, yeah, next one, this uh
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  Speaker 1: is Ryan's introduction. Okay, Ryan had it at eight, Eric
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  Speaker 1: had it at five. I also had it at five,
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  Speaker 1: and that is Hamnet.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: I also want to say. So, last year, Ryan waited
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  Speaker 1: forever to send me his list. You sent it to
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  Speaker 1: me at like the eleventh hour because you were like,
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  Speaker 1: I just don't know the order, and I just wrote back,
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  Speaker 1: just send me the fucking list, like I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: This year, he sent it to me in code, so
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  Speaker 1: like he sent me the ten movies and all ten
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  Speaker 1: titles were wrong. But if but the titles, I could
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  Speaker 1: figure based on the titles he put I could figure
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  Speaker 1: out what the movie was. So it took me literally
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  Speaker 1: like ten minutes, and then I sent it to him
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  Speaker 1: is this correct? And then he said yes, it is,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, like abbreviations or like ten,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: yeah it was yeah, like pre sentimental value. He called
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: it the Borgs, which is their last name, trek nice
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: love so and then this is like this was the
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: dumbest one on my part. So Ryan wrote phone FO
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: n E and I could not figure out which movie
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: that was, and then I was like, oh fucking more
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: on it's f one.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: All to get a picture was a poster. A poster
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: had like f one like how people of her phone.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: That's like the genius moment when we went to the movie.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: This is a capital FN one word like what his phone?
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: We went to see I robot and Mike Maserati did
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: miss a fucking beat. He went to the conference. Can
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: I get a ticket for one robot? And the guy
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: was like he just Frozemen. It was just perfect. Yeah.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Nut ham Nut is the story of William Shakespeare who
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: meets Anne.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Hathaway, whose name is Agnes Yes. And I looked up
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: the Wikipedia page and her name was Anne Hathaway and
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: also Agnes Yes, because because Shannon I watched it with.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Shannon was one of the few I watched with Shannon,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: and Shannon was like, this isn't his wife. His wife
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: is not name Agnes in real life, and so that's
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: why I.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Looked it up. Anyways, So it's about the falling in
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: love having two children. Unfortunately they lose a child, and
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: it's how they both handle it from both perspectives told
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: in different chunks of the movie. Agnes is kind of
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: considered by he's going to be untrustworthy because of her
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: family's background. So a lot of the movie is with
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: nature and with her quote unquote as they call her
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: witch lifestyle, which is much more of a nature embracing person,
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: very heavily dramatic. This movie is getting a lot of hate.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: I don't think it deserves the hate personally.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Wait for a second before you go into that this
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: is going to be on Peacock.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: You said this on Peacock the sixth, the sixth for free,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: if you have, If you have Peacocky's.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: And it's starting. Jesse Buckley, Paul Mescal.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Sorry I butchered the description there. Now, who's Chloe who won? For? For?
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: What's it called for?
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: I forgot about that? But this is a this is
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: also a Steven Spielberg produce movie. This book was extremely successful.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Uh to all you all you comic fans out there.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Hamnett was a very big aspect of the Sandman series.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Actually knew a lot of this movie from that. Oh wow,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: it's actually really amazing in Salmon, how they use it.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: What's the hate it's getting?
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: People think it's just too it's too blatantly emotional. It's
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: too blatantly That's like the criticism I hear of it
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: a lot is that it's too not like schmaltzy, but
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: like it's it's almost like it's it feels like it's
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: unfounded because it just starts from this point and doesn't
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: let go. That's kind of like I get, that's what
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: it gets to feel I get from it. Okay, Yeah,
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: I like this movie. It has a scornography clime crime
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: that is fundamentally infuriating to me. I did not know that,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: and I have to you shouldn't know. It's okay, you
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Anything about Eric.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I wanted to talk about this and I don't.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: I don't know if Ryan has the same take as
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: I did, but I would like to talk about this.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Go for it.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: So end of the movie they use a very very
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: like more modernly famous piece of classical music written by
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: the composer Mac Victor, who composes the score for this movie.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Who's a great composer.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Okay, So the last scene, it's it's on the Nature
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: of Daylight. It's from a piece from two thousand.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: And four that's been used a ton It's in Shutter Island,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: it's an Arrival, It's in Handmaid's Tail, it's in Last.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Of Us, It's in so much stuff. I really it's
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: a great piece. It's really good, and it's I agree
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: it still works here if you would like never known
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: this piece again. This is not a normal complaint. But
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: when they started playing it, I was kind of like,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: all right, like it's like now we like again, this
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: is not a normal complaint. But it just deflated the balloon.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: So this this guy composed the movie and use a
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: famous song.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: He's already done, so we I love by the way,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: it's schornography is fighting its way back into the show
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: after the craze.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Their thoughts about another movie.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: What can also happen to is that sometimes when they're
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: making a movie and they hire a composer, they might say, well,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think it happened here, but this
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: can happen when they're like, hey, you know what, Like
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: he's going to compose the music. He can't start. Now,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: let's listen to some of his stuff, and like we'll
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: edit the movie to his stuff.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I looked, and I can tell you exactly what happened here,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: so go for it. So that I didn't know.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: I didn't even know this was nominated for Best Score
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: or anything, but I immediately recognized.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: That piece at the end of the movie.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: And then I was looking at the nominations later and
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: I saw it was nominated for Best Original Score, and
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: I thought like, oh, that's not original this yeah, and
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: that Max Richter was, And so it turns out, yeah,
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: he wrote the rest of the score for the film.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: The film originally ended with the last scene of the
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: play Hamlet where he dies, and that was gonna be
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: the end of the movie, and Chloe Jao wasn't satisfied
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: with the ending, and the main actress sent Chloe Jaw
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: this piece by Max Richter, and Klojao was not familiar
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: with the piece, which makes no sense to me, because
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: if you're gonna hire a composer for the movie you're directing,
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: and that's like the composers like most famous.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: He has, he's he's played a lot.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: But like the fact that she'd never heard it was
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: like baffling to me, sort of making an analogy like
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: if he was Silento, that would be his name.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Nee.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's a perfect analogy.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: It's a great way to if he was loose stools,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: it would be.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so so so then so then director Klojo starts
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: listening to this piece over and over and over again
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: and playing it on set over and over again as
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: they're wrapping up the movie, like doing the last scenes,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: and it inspires her to kind of change the ending
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: of the movie, so the end of the movie is
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: no longer him let the actor on stage at the
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Globe Theater says, as line, movie ends, but there's another
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: part and this piece of music plays, and so they
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: change the ending and that's the that is it. And
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: then Max Richter goes and composes his own music to
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: fit that scene, and Chloe Jao says like, I was
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: really like inspired by and into the actual piece of music,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: like that's what I had in my head and that's
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: and Mac Characters said like, okay, so so I agree.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: So you know it's that is the most, that is
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: the most, like that's the biggest musical cue of the movie,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: and it is not original, and it's not yet he's
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: not an in for Best Original Score.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: I just also think to me, like, even if you
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: don't think his piece is as good like the one,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: he's like, hey, like, Chloe Joo, I have another piece
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: for this that I think could work better. I would
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: be like, because it's just so overused, just be like
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: then just go with that, Just go with that, like Jesse,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: because again we're focusing on the wrong thing here. Jesse
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Buckley is so fucking good in this movie is disgusting.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Should I was like, that's all you needed was just her,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: just all you needed, even ended in silence, all you
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: needed was her. And know his wife Jesse Buckley, yes
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: he's a big, big fan of hers. Yeah, but total
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: nerd thing. But I just because it did, like as
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: a fan of this stuff in general, it did. Like also,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: I was like, we're going to this, like we're using
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: this as a band aid, like it feels you don't
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: you didn't need it in my opinion, but still I
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: like the movie. Like the movie.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: The reason I had this higher than all the other
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: movies we talked about is basically two reasons. Like I
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: didn't love this. I mean, it was good, but I
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: didn't love It's like it's a period piece. The two
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: parts of the movie that I just pushed it over
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the edge for me was Jesse Buckley.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: He's just phenomenals. She has to wine.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: And then the other thing that I don't think, like
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a fair criticism that this movie
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: is like intentionally over emotional. It's about the death of
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: your child, so like that the just trying to process
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: as a parent the movie while watching it like it
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: affected me in a way. Just because of that.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: I so.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Wanted to watch all ten movies for this podcast.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: And I had kind of forgotten that I went to
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: a concert last night that I talked to you both
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: about and I still need to see this movie. And
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: I had a busy today. So I rented this movie
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: and watched it on the way to and from the concert,
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: and then finished it at home after the concert last
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: night on the on the tea, And during the most
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: emotional part of this movie, I was like crying on
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: the tea and like.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Any luck, it's just like by myself. It was like
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: at like eleven o'clock last night, which was like strangers,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: like just like staring at my phone this movie and
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I just can't. I can't process what, you know, Like
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I think it's just wild to me. How back in
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: the day, in Shakespeare's time and through most of modern history,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you know you're gonna have you're a
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: woman or a man, you're gonna have like six kids.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: And the reason you do that is because you know,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: like two or three of them are not die. Like
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Shakespeare's mom had what three Yeah, and they talked to
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: the mother, Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's Shakespeare's mom in this movie.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: She said, I had two diy as babies and one
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: die at seven. And the way that she says it,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: you can tell like the seven year old's death really
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: affected her. And it's like, no wonder. I mean, there's
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: all sorts of theories why, you know, throughout history we
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: were so violent and fucked up as a species. You know,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: lead was one of the theories. Uh. But yeah, just
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: the fact that the trauma that you must have gone.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Through and they have to squashed it down.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And like there's I don't want to spoil the movie,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: but there's there's a scene where there's like a stillborn
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: birth and the nurse it's not a nurse, but.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: What would you call them, like the like the what
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: do they call it.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: The doula? Yeah, doulah, Yeah, what I was trying to
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: go for kind of it wasn't really a doula, but whatever.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: The lady next door, it's like family friend. Yeah, it's
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: like the lady next door, she just walked. She immediately
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: takes the silvern baby away and just don't look at it.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: It's bad luck. And so the mother never even like
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: has a chance to process or look at the baby
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: and you know that they're ever talking about it again.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: That's something like this idea, like like rip this bandit
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: off and walk away, like never see its face, never
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: let it register in your head.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: And I don't think that there were good psychologists that
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: are helping them, maybe on zoom to make it easier
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: to just get your own appointment.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Listen, well got to stay home.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and also just the expectation that the world moves
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: on when you go through the most. I can't, I
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: honestly can't think of anything worse than dying. And you
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: you know, especially if you have another kid, like if
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: you have other kids, that's the one thing that gets
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: you through it, yeah, because you have to go on
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: for your other kids, who you love equally as much.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: But you know, your husband goes back to work. Everybody
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: moves on, and everybody's still sad and remembers your dead child.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: But everybody moves on and you don't, and it's just
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: like what do we? What do I do?
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Because also she is left to deal with it.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: That's the thing too about us, because like.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: It's Will who Shakespeare is like I have to go
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: back to London. I have to work.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: We have to.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I have to, you know, and I don't fault him
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: for that. Shannon very interesting to take on this movie.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: So Shannon hated Will, like hated him instead. Jesse Buckley's
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: really good and I like the movie, but the movie
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: has run for me because I just hated Well so much.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: And I was like why and then she said, she
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: was like, you don't do this. I'm not saying that
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: like this is you or I see Will as you,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: but I just think Will in this movie is making
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: the death about him. And I just I said, like,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna challenge you on that because he just seems
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: really sad too. So how come she said, And she's
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: not making it about her, but he's said and he
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: is making it about him, And she was like, man,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: just do this. He's being so dramatic. He's writing a play.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Everybody can see my play. Meanwhile, she's off in the
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: countryside just like suffering alone. And I was like, okay, okay,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: but that was her take.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Hmmm. I I thought.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: That Jesse Buckley like said some brutal things to yeah,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Will Yes that I thought were unfair and like unfair
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: horrible because because so like they Jesse Buckley like encourages well.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Like you can't be in the small town, like you
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: need to go to London to like do your art.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: He was a great wife and so and so Will
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: like does he's excited. He goes to London and then
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: like while while he'sn't like the idea is he's gonna
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: like work in London during the season and like come
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: home at every opportunity. And so while he's out in London,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: his kids get sick and he like rushes home.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: As soon as he possibly can. And Jesse Buckley's like,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Won't said like you should have been here, Like I
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: can't believe you weren't here. You didn't you know. I
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: thought that was entire I was totally on will side
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: and thought she was being unfair until he left and
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: went back to Lefe oh and and like he just
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: like has the stuff packed and he's just like walking
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: the car. Yeah, and Jesse's like, where are you going?
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, I'm leaving today.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: The only horse leaving town is right now. I have
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: to go.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Because he's like, yeah, we have a like we're in
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: the middle of a production of one of my plays,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: and like, yeah, I mean I'm devastated. I'm truly devastated
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: my child died, and he is. But he's like, but
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I have to we have to go finish the production
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: of the play. And she's like, no, no, even if
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: that was true, you don't handle it by just like
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: showing up with all your bags packed, like walking out
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: the door. So I wasn't on his side and after
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: that moment, but before that, I was.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: It's a hard that part's a hard cell. But it's
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: like interesting how I thought they would go, Like I
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: thought more of the second half, and you do see
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: more of will, but they kind of only really give it,
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: like obviously when the play because they want the play
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: to hit you hard. But like when he's rehearsing with
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: the two actors and he's like, there's no emotion in this.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: You're just saying, you're just reciting the words and there's
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: no emotion, and he's saying the words that he's like
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: kind of saying about how he feels about the situation
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: with his wife. But then, like I thought was interesting,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: thinking about it today is like what is this? And
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: they again I'm going to keep plugging this, Like what's
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: interesting is they include is what is the story? He
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: tells them when he first meets the story of Orpheus
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: and his wife, where like he has the leader out
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: of the underworld. They just tell him, all we will
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: let her out of the underworld, just don't look back.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: And then the whole idea is that the second gets
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: the door. He does, and he tells the story like
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: it is like this, he's just so in love with her,
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: he has to do it. And then the whole thing
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: is no, no, you're not doing the right thing at
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: that time. And I think that's the whole transplant of him,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: is like with that moment when he's leaving, it's like,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: you're not doing the right thing at the right time.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: And I thought that was kind of the interesting kind
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: of like it like kind of like projection of that.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: It was interesting to me, and I.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Think that is fascinating. This is pretty historically accurate from
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: my understanding. We don't actually know like how the death
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: of his children literally transpired in real life, but like
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Shakespeare was just like a loser living in the countryside
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: that nobody respected. And then he was like all right,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: let me like try to go to London and be
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: a playwright. And then he became William Shakespeare my.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Boss first leave and scream at his ear run away.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah that was ye.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: His boss is boss was a little rough.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: And also the movie is about how he went from
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: just like kind of a rando with you know, his
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: family is doing well, but they're in debt, and then
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: he becomes extremely wealthy and they like buy a new house,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: and Jesse Buckley was like, I don't give a fuck
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: about our new house. Yeah, I thought that was interesting
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: just from perspective of Shakespeare. You don't really think of that.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you really. It's also like you don't like, I
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: don't know how to say, like, I guess here's a
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: question I would pose or ask. It made me actually
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: more curious, and this is the first time in a
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: long time this happened to read the book this is
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: based on. I'm curious that the book has more into
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: what this movie is doing because, like I think Chloe
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Joao is very much more of an experiential director. It's
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: like I want you to kind of like watch this
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: as it happens. It's emotional. It's not like, let's make
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: this much more of a biopic, let's give more history,
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: Like it's just like you're experiencing as they go through,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: So I'd be curious to read if like the book,
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: because it seemed like he's almost like his fame comes
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: in later and like that woman who who Jesse Buckley
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: shuts down when she's like, oh did you hear about
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: his new play? Yeah, and she's like you were never
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: my mom? Go the fuck away? Yeah, but it was
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: I'm curious. It made me actually want to read the
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: book in an interesting way.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Also, Taylor Swift's longest relationship ever is Jesse Buckley's brother
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: in this movie Joellen.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh I didn't realize that was him. Yep, yeah, Okay.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I thought Paul Mescal was really good and I'm surprised
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: he didn't get nominated.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: He did not. Okay, interesting, I liked him. I thought
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: he was good. I liked him. Yeah, and she's tremendous
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: as usual.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, the next movie, I guess I'll introduce I had it.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Like it's like we're coming out of it, like you know,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: they do the interesting especial picture they have someone the
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: oscars come out and talk about it, like, why would
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: they pick us to do this?
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: They should? From Cuff's basement.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Here he is with two buzzballs in hand Ryan talking
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: about himnet. So the score relief is get him out
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: of here.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Now Eric has a standing behind us because he's not
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: a co host. I Ryan edited four. Eric hadded at
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: seven and I had it at two. And it is Bogonia,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: directed by what's his names Lanthamos And this is on Peacock.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: This is on Peacock now.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's on Peacock now for free if you
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: have Peacock. And it's starring Emma Stone, Jesse Plemons and Eric.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: You thought it was odd he didn't get nominated. Yeah,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: I really like Jesse Yep. Who My forgetting is that
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: there's the actor I talked about in part one, Who's
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Autistic is one of the main characters. Star wars Hawkers, Yep, Starbros.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Who I absolutely love is a stand up comedian and
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: a podcast host. Who Yeah, Who's just awesome. Yeah. So
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I I loved this movie. I thought it was I
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: thought it was so. The plot of the movie is
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: there's a very successful CEO of this like tech company
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: played by Emma Stone and Jesse Plemons and his autistic
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: cousin are sort of like conspiracy theorists. They're on the
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Internet going through all these rabbit.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Holes sort of ain't the word for word, sort of
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: ain't the word for it.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Committed, committed, committed conspiracy theorists. And they believe that Emma
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Stone is the CEO of this company, is an alien
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: and they are going to kidnap her and have her
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: admit she's an alien and then get her like alien
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: race to leave Earth alone as their goal, and they
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: they so. Anyways, I thought the movie was very, very funny.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: It was super This guy, he's he's made dog tooth.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: He made Poor Things lobster, the lobster least of all
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: the time. I thought Poor Things was so good and
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Amastone was so good. I almost don't want her to know
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: she's nominated this year.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: I don't want her to win. I don't think she will.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: She Poor Things was just like she deserves the heavyweight
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: belt for that.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: For a long time, I'm surprised. I thought he would
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: be even more nominated than her.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I like Jesse a lot.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: He was right in this.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: He's in so much good stuff.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's so good.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Civil War he was great in that. And anyways, so
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: he was just Landry the kicker on Friday Night Lights
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: and then Breaking Bad.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: And I saw the change the actors. Actors with him,
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Michael B. Jordan, Oh really, yeah, They're both like how
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: the fuck did we get here? Yeah.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: So there were multiple moments that that I was truly shocked,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: like my mouth dropped open in the movie, like three
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: or four moments. I won't spoil it, but my favorite
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: moment out of any of these movies all ten was
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: when Stavros like reveals his backstory to Jesse Plemons. That
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: was wild stuff, so amazing. I just was fucking dying
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: during that. And then there's another scene where I won't
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: reveal what happens, but I was like, Emmastone is talking
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: to a character in the basement and I was like,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: oh my god, I know what he's gonna do. And
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: then he did it and I went holy shit. So
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I just thought this was this was chaos, This was gnarally,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: it was hilarious. It was it was not what I expected.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: I did not know where it was going. Very much
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: enjoyed it. But Eric, you had it seven. Yeah, And
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: I remember when I first saw this, I texted you
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: that it was not for me. And I really like.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: Your ghosts and his other you know, I liked four
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: things I actually liked the Lobster.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: I really want to see is it killing Sacred Deer? Yeah,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: none of us have seen it. Interesting, I want to
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: see that. I respect this movie.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: I made some big swings and it was like very
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: out there. This is one where I wonder if I
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: saw it in the theater, it would have been a
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: better experience just because of the crowd. I mean, so
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: I mentioned the Substance, which is another one where I
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: watched by myself.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I was just like, this is disgusting. I don't like this.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: I can get you be turned off if Yeah.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: But I wonder if in the theater it would like
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: people would be like laughing and covering their eyes, and
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: that would be like part of it. This was kind
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: of the same thing, like I thought, you see, he
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: has the autistic cousin who I thought like did a
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: very good job. But I just found like everything that
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: happened to him, you'd be very sad. Yeah, and like
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: a lot of and like Jesse Plummin's character was sad
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: and they're torturing this woman in the basement and it's
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: sad and like a lot about.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Just like Alicia Silverstone is in this movie. Yeah, mom, Yeah, yeah,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: another like Parent movie. This is a good comp with Eddington,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I think in a way and just like like really
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: big swings, like really out there and like, yeah, of
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: course it was when I saw that at the end
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: produced by Ariostra, I didn't even know that. I went like, yes, yeah,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: of course it was this year. Sure, but the whole
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: the whole thing is batchit crazy and then the end
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: certainly dials things.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Up to eleven. The up to eleven.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So it just didn't you know, there are parts
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: of where I think even poor Things could have like
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: pushed me. I could have been like out on poor things,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: and I like I almost was at a point, but
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I was very much in on poor things. That was
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: my favorite of that year. And this one just like
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I got knocked off the train at some point, I
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: was not not back on and it just didn't.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: It didn't all come together for me. But but I
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: respect this one, like I I'm glad this one exists.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: But this was when I was going through all of
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: my watchings. This was one for a long time, but
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I ended up being two, Okay, wow, what are your
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: thoughts rying?
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: I was this is my number four. I saw it
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: and I was like I am very like I feel
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: the same way about Luca Gladinho who did Challengers and
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: talk about your name with with your gross I'm very
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: like up and down with them. I'm like some of
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: them like I love this. I'm like this is fine,
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: like what.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Adie Juno was more like Eric I talked to Ady
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Juno about it.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like, I didn't love this, you know.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: I my this actually was my hottest take of the
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: entire like thinking though it's not really with this tos
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: cause I actually liked this more than poor Things. I
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: was just really I was like wow. I just was
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: like because like when certain things happened, I was kind
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: of like, all right, I was more shocked by the
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: cousin than I was like, holy shit, this is fucking deranged.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: And then like because like when she finally like she
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: dresses him down a couple of times, but when she
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: finally puts the nail on the coffin addressing him down,
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: I was like, this actually probably was a mistake by you,
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: because now he has nothing left, and now I was
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: gonna get super desperate. But then the fact that he's
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: like okay, I'm like, oh, you know what, maybe he's
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: like gonna come around and realize, like maybe I went
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: too far, and like you do feel bad for the
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: cousin because like the cousin just loves him. That's why
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: the coins extent for just absolutely that's the whole thing.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: It's like it's in his mom, his whole his whole life,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: very very tractic.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Very insane, and it's just like it's just they just
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: do this because a great job of like giving you
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: those feelings. And then when like things escalated, like it's
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: amazing how they just keep re escalating. You're kind of like, oh,
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: I didn't think we would go this way, and I
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: just like loved that so much. I was just so surprised.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: I'm dying. This is a remake, by the way, which
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: is it's a movie called Save the Green Planet, and
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: I'm dying to see it. I can't.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I did not know that.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no way it can be like this. There's
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: no there's no way. But it's I had heard of
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Save the Green Planet because the guys who made Everything
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Every whirl at once talked about it as an inspiration
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: for that movie.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: It's a soft Korean film.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: And I would be fascinating. I think it's I think
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: this is nominy for Best Adapted Screenplay. Yes, because it's
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: the remake.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: But so the oh, there's a great clip of their
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: doing a press junket for this and it's it's Jesse,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Emma Stone, maybe at least you Silverstone is there and
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: then starv Rous is sitting at the end and a
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: reporter stands up and is like, I'm gonna said this
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: to you, and Ben he's like, Stars had question for you,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: and he goes and then I'm not telling you how
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: to do your job and probably ask like Jesse or
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Emo question please that.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: So that clip is amazing. There's an entire like thirty
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: minute Q and A with that. That entire Q and
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: A is absolutely hilarious because of like, so they have
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: like Aiden on Aiden is the actor who plays the cousin. Yeah,
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: and they're just like so the Q and A guy
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: who doesn't like respond to any of the jokes. I
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: think it's very funny because like star Ross is like
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: keeps like saying like, please don't ask me questions because
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: like I'm not good enough at this to do this.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, I know I got hired because I
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: look like this and playing that kind of character.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: It's like, you guys know what happens with me, and like, ye,
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: this makes sense, like all this, but I love when
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: he talks. He's like, so the the Q and A
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: host is like, oh, there was a screening where if
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: you shaved your head at the screening you could see
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: the movie for free. And then the director Yogoslanthemos is
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: sitting next to Aiden and he's like helping him with
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: the questions and stuff like that, and he's like would
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: you do that? He's like, would you shave your head
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: and go to Then he's like, I mean probably not.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think, and I don't think.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: I don't think this movie is worth it, and fucking
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: star loses it. I thought it was so funny.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. So yeah, very enjoyable, very enjoyable for me,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: it was. I thought it was hilarious. I loved it. Okay,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: are we moving on?
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Sure? Yeah, jokey.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Next one is this is Eric's introduction. I believe Eric
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: had it at no. Sorry, Ryan had it at five.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Eric had it at four. I had it at three.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: It is train Dreams and and and Ryan's coded list.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: He called this Bunion.
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: There's a Lumberjack. It was it was The True Stories.
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: This is on Netflix. Train Dreams is on Netflix. The
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: director is Clint Bentley. I don't know who that is.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: He had done a He is part of a similar
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: to the director of what's it called Last Year The Brutalist.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: He is part of a directing and writing duo where
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: they switch off directors. Interesting, so the last guy directed
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: their last movie, then he directed the one before. I
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: have not seen anything they've done before.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: This is okay. The main character is Joel yorck Ston,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: who I feel like I've said this about too many people,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: which is why they can't all be nominated. But I
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: was surprised he was nominated for a Best Actor. Yeah,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: me too, man and then a ton of stuff now
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: But anyways, and Felicity Jones is his wife, and there's
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: other people. But this is based on a novella and
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: it's about a guy written by the director, right, Oh,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that?
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Is it? Really? I don't think I feel it was.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: I could be wrongly based on Dennis Johnson's novella and
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: the director is not. I'm totally wrong, but yeah, Joel Edgardson,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I can't say his name, Edgarton, Edgerton like Bridger.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: He's like a logger in the early nineteen hundreds and
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: he's like put forth as like a pretty just like
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: average guy, just like trying to make.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: His way in the world, you know, in that time.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: And yet he meets Felicity Jones and they get married
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: and they have a kid, and it's kind of about there.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: You know, he has to keep going off for these
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: logging seasons and being away from home for a long
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: period of time. And I guess I won't like spoil anything,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: but there is like one very dramatic event that happens
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: in this movie. There's one part where there's some narrative
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: voiceover which kind of bugs me frankly. But the voiceover
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: says like he would look back and realize later that
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: this was the happiest time of his life and like, ooh,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: that's not good because things don't seem like that settled
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: for him. But it's a very beautifully shot movie, I know,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: any do you know? Compared it to like Tree of
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Life and all those types of movies, it's like very
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: kind of well, lots of shots in nature and the
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: camera moving around and a really I think interesting portrait
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: of the main character, who again it's just like a
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: regular logger during that time, and what his life was like,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: and also the change what are the time periods of
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: this movie? But at the end, it's like in the sixties, right,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: because it's wild to think about this man's recounts eighty
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: years of his life.
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but he lives from like, you know, the eighteen
• 48:00
  Speaker 6: hundreds to the moon landing, right, and and people did
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: live that time.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Span, and that's so weird, and you get to see
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: like different seasons, Like at first people are just like
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: using access to cut down the trees, and then it
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: becomes more industrial and like that that kind of changes,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: and then yeah, at the end, he's like watching the
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: moon landing.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: They do have that bizarre one time jump in the
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: middle of the movie where it shows like that modern
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: train going through, right, So it's kind of like but
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: they never go back to it for a while, so
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: it's kind of like because he's on it and you're like, Okay, well,
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: what like what is happening? I guess you're remembering like
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: a past life.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: It was interesting, but yeah, I Brian talk.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: About it more. I thought this was very good too.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: Looks great. Love that this is an hour and forty minutes,
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: by the way, you can it is so fast. You
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: can fucking do it, everybody. This was really good again
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: like looks great, like really great performance by him, very subtle,
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: very quiet. It does such a good job of fooling you,
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Like you said, the past of time, because like when
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: things are more modern. I was like, what is fucking happening?
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: This is very good.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I was, yeah, I was not like so yeah, So
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: the movie, well to talk about two things. The movie
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: goes back and forth between because he's a logger and
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: then he has to go like take a train far
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: away into the wilderness and then log for like months
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: at a time. It seems like we don't really know.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: And then he comes back to his family, his wife,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: who his wife is like a perfect wife, like awesome, lovely,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: and he has a daughter and he loves his daughter
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: so much, and it's about like him going away.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: She lets him leave home, Agnes.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, oh that's true, that's true. Yeah, you know
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: she's very selfish, both of them, both Felicity Jones and
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Jessy Buckley are very selfish. But you know women are
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: like that. So but he just really, he just doesn't
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: want to be away. All he wants to do is
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: just be at home with his wife and he loves
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: and his daughter. He loves them both so much. And
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: he's going away and logging. He has to do it
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: because he's no other way to make money. And both
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: both parts of the movie like him and with his
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: family and him logging. The logging I just find so
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: interesting because you go away and you're put with all
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: these strangers for like a couple of months, and then
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: you leave. Some of them you might never see again.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Some of them you might see the next time you
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: have a job. In logging, especially back then, is like
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: very dangerous. So like every time he goes away randomly
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: in one of his coworkers will die.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah they did. That's so freaky because like you forget
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: about it almost then it happens. You're like, whoa wait a.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Minute, yeah, And and he's like I gotta stop doing this,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: like I gotta figure out a way to just not
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: risk my life and like be with my family.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: And I thought, like, the there's that scene with that
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: old guy who's been in a million he was in
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Jassic Park three. No, not William Nacy who was in
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Jurassic Park three and the character the character actor who
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: is in Drassic Park three who gets eaten by the
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: spote soars on the runway. Remember he's like crying on
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: the runway and he goes, don't leave without me because
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: they're taking off from the points first eats him. So
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: he's the really old guy. The Joel edit Chin is like, oh, man, like,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: remember we were we used to log together like years
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: and years ago.
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: We knew way, oh my god.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: And we knew we were friends with Arnah. And he
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: goes like, oh, yes, yeah, we were friends with arn
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: And that whole interaction that that's like the nail the
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: coffin ritual edits. It is like, oh no, I can't
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: be doing this anymore. I thought that was so All
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: the logging scenes were so interesting. But I'm really sorry,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: but like I have to, I'm gonna put it. I'm
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: gonna start a timer in a minute. I can't talk
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: about this movie without spoiling it. Like I have to
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: talk about it. I'm gonna put a timer on for
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: three minutes, so you really care, you can skip ahead.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna start at the time right now. Skip I
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: had three minutes starting now. So I was watching the movie,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: and halfway through the movie, him and his wife come
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: up with this plan, like you can stop logging it,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: we'll start a farm, but you have to log like
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: three or four more times to get enough money to
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: start a firm. So he comes back and there's a
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: wildfire and he goes to his house and his house
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: is completely burned down. Me watching I was beyond one
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: hundred percent sure that the wife and daughter did not die,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: because it's like the movie's about him and his family,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: and she's like, it's a beautiful little girl and loves
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: more than anything, and his wife he loves. And I
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, they must have like fled, but they're
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: gonna come back. And then he camps out at the
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: burn down cabin waiting for him to come back. And
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: I was just watching the movie and I was like,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: why are they taking someone? I was one hundred percent
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: sure they were not dead. Did you guys think that
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: they were dead.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: It's the fact that he didn't find them. And I
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: was like, because of the mercilessness of the logging, I was.
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: Kind of like this, And I mean one of the
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: scenes shows them like trying to flee and then like
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: falling down kind of after that.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Well, no, but that's that's in his mind. Yeah, yeah,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: that was in his mind. You know. So when it's confirmed,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: like like a year goes by and like they're obviously,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: but the fact he doesn't even know if they're dead.
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because the fire was raging so much.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: So it's beautiful little toddler and his wife. So that's
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: the thing is, like we're a minute and a half
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: into the spoiler part. I just thought about this. So
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: this movie haunted me like a ghost. It like rattled
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: me to my soul, and I couldn't stop thinking about
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: it for like days, if not a week. Wow, And
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: this almost was one for me, but it ended up
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: being three. But I was like, I one hundred percent
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: believe this. You have to kill yourself. There's no way
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: you go on with life. I'm being I mean completely serious.
• 53:38
  Speaker 6: Your wife, who you love more than anything, and your
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: beautiful toddler daughter who you would die for. You know
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: that while you were away logging, they burned to death
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: and agony to the point where there's no trace of
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: their bodies. And then you don't even know if they're
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: dead or not. And then it finally hits you, they're dead,
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: you have no other children like you, there's no.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: There's nothing going for this guy. And he's like, you know,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go on for the rest of my life,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: like living as a red close and like driving a carriage.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: I was like, no, I would one million percent kill
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: myself in this scenario.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: How much some people don't.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: We have forty five seconds.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: So when the woman, the random woman shows up, who's
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: also in F one, you think the other the woman
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: who shows by his doorstep, oh, the girl, the girl,
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: and he's like, oh my god, this is my daughter.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: I was like, holy shit, this is amazing.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: I definitely didn't think it was his daughter.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: I was like, I was like, wow, they would do
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: this to us, but like, of course.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: It's I think I wanted to believe it so much.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: I said, like is that her? And like yeah, And
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: also it's almost unclear if she if that even.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: Happened, right, Yeah, that's the thing too, And that's.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: The other thing that bothered me. So so okay, we're
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: gonna end the spoilers now. But I would just say,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: so now that we're not, we're spoiler free back again.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: I would say I loved this movie, but I also
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: hated it at the same time because he made a
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: choice that you you didn't make the correct choice. Well that,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: but just in general the movie itself, what happens, I like,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: hated it so much, but I also loved it, So
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: it was very odd for me. So this was all
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: over my list. I was like, this could be this
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: could be ten, this could be one. Like I just
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: didn't know.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: It's weird.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to know this. This one emotionally affected
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: me more than anything else in the list.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: I thought this could have been also, like, especially because
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: how they end it with like him at an older age,
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: could have been way more. I think, almost cornier or
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: two Schmaltzy were like it's meant like hey kind of
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: like reaffirming the meaning of his existence to himself.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: But the main that's my interpretation because not to go
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: to spoilers, but at the end, like he it goes
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: through his entire life. The movie is his entire life.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: So the end of the movie is his death. Because
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: the movie is about his entire life, it's not a spoiler.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: And I just like when they show sort of nobody
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: like discovers his body when he dies, and I just thought,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: like pointless, pointless life. That's what. That was my take
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: at the end. I liked that.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: I liked a movie totally focused on a person that's
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: not gonna be like struggle will be, not gonna mean
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: any history books. Yeah, probably no one would remember that
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: real person now ten years later entirely.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's it. And I thought that was it.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting to kind of give that
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: much attention to that kind of person. You're talking about legacy,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: and I don't like. At some point, I just thought legacy.
• 56:35
  Speaker 7: I don't care about legacy, my legacy at all, because
• 56:39
  Speaker 7: I was talking about this is my parents or they
• 56:41
  Speaker 7: probably didn't love because they're like closer to death hopefully
• 56:44
  Speaker 7: than I am. And I I just said, your legacy
• 56:49
  Speaker 7: doesn't matter because nobody's gonna remember you, like honestly, like
• 56:54
  Speaker 7: like I don't, We're not gonna remember by history.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Do you know anything about your great grandparents? I don't
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: know anything about about them. Do you know anything about
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: your great great grandparents? Like you remember your grandparents in
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: CC's not going to know anything about my grandparents and
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: they're completely forgotten in history. When my parents die and
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: when I die, my grandparents are a race from history.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: No one will be talking about them ever again. So
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: to me, like, I don't I don't need my name.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: I want to be a good person that is like
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: loved by the people I know, but I'm not. I
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: don't care about like, oh, I want to put my
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: name on this bench or something. I don't know.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: What if like maybe two thousand years in the future,
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: the symbiotic creatures exist find these recordings and they like,
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: what is this diarrhea?
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not gonna help. This is this sadly is
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: my legacy and yours.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: Ryan, It's got your name on it. I just work here.
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: That's how it's interesting to think of this movie in
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: conversation with.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: The other ones, Like there's obviously a lot of overlaps
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: with Hamnet, which we talked about. I thought, I think
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: of this one as like the anti Marty Supreme, where
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: like Marty Supreme, it was so like singularly driven on
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: this weird goal and everything is life was built like
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: I have to achieve this, I have to do this
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: for this was again just like like a kind of
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: anonymous guy just like going through life, like doing the
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: best he could with no particular you know, And I
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: thought that was interesting. So I know we only have
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: two movies left, but we're also going to talk about
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: like best actor and stuff, so I don't want to
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: do another whole hour. But we're already at an hour
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: for this part, so I think that we should go
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: to a part three. Okay, part three, Part three.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: More contact. That's all we're all about, right, We're all.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: About the clicks. Ryan, that's every day. Catch you on
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: the Christmas no oscar flip? Why that'd be a Christmas flip? Okay,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: the Christmas Adventurous quote