Latest / Simply Bitcoin / Worlds LARGEST Exchange Drops BOMBSHELL REPORT | EP 1373
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- 0:00Yeah. Most people think the bear
- 0:02market just started, but the world's largest exchange,
- 0:06Coinbase, quietly dropped a new bombshell report that suggests
- 0:12Bitcoin is about to surprise everyone.
- 0:15And it's not just this new. Report making bullish
- 0:17suggestions. Bitcoin closed above a very
- 0:21important level yesterday. Before we get to all of that,
- 0:25let's not forget Coinbase serves some of the largest sovereign
- 0:30wealth funds and institutions in the world, and they probably
- 0:33know more about what's going on behind the scenes than most.
- 0:38And This is why they. Said a while back.
- 0:41Let's check out the clip. Well, if you're, if we're
- 0:45talking about an end, you know, sovereign wealth fund or pension
- 0:48fund and we, we have conversations going with, with
- 0:51many of these, the fastest any of these entities can move is
- 0:57generally two quarters, right? There's all these processes that
- 1:03exist. So generally speaking, if you're
- 1:06going to do something, you have to propose to do it, right?
- 1:10And that has to be approved generally by the investment
- 1:13committee. Most large plans have an
- 1:15investment committee every quarter, right?
- 1:18So there you go. And if you're going to propose
- 1:21to do something, often times you're going to propose that you
- 1:23want to do something and then you have to propose to then to
- 1:26your point, think about execution, which there is really
- 1:29a search. So you have to propose the
- 1:31allocation, you get approved for it.
- 1:33And then you got to go search for the manager or the OR the OR
- 1:38their fund or the direct access platform, right?
- 1:42So best case scenario for somebody, and we know a couple
- 1:46of these plans, the best case scenario is literally two
- 1:49quarters in most cases. So we wrote a piece couple years
- 1:54ago saying where are where are all the institutions?
- 1:57Well, they're now here, but not everywhere.
- 2:01And even those that want to move, it's going to take some
- 2:04time. I think we're going to see, you
- 2:06know, we're going to come back from summer vacation and I think
- 2:11in September. After I get back from Saint
- 2:12Sebastian. San Sebastian and and and then
- 2:15you're, you're working in Italy, I think.
- 2:17Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:19But I, I think we're going to see some big headlines in Q3
- 2:24which will wake, wake up the market and say, OK, well, it's
- 2:27not for everybody, but for this subset of investors, maybe it
- 2:30should be in your benchmark, right.
- 2:32And and that sort of endorsement value we haven't actually really
- 2:36seen, right? So that's absolutely massive,
- 2:40ladies and gentlemen, right. And now while everyone is
- 2:42thinking, you know, and it could be true, right, the four year
- 2:46cycle could hold up until it's not.
- 2:48Nobody knows until the cycle actually breaks.
- 2:52That's when you know, the, the, the concept of a four year
- 2:56cycle, it's intact until it's not.
- 2:58And the fact is, as we, we still have, you know, about a month
- 3:02and a half left in Q4 and Bitcoin could head into all time
- 3:06highs and then we could be heading into a bear market in
- 3:102026. I think the thing that catches
- 3:13everybody by surprise this time is the fact that we never
- 3:18entered A euphoria phase in Bitcoin.
- 3:22Also, what changes things is the fact that institutions,
- 3:25sovereign wealth funds and also the administration in the United
- 3:29States that the president, President Trump owns the 6th
- 3:33largest Bitcoin treasury company.
- 3:35Right. BlackRock, the most popular ETF
- 3:39launch in history that they've ever had and the most profitable
- 3:42ETF that they've ever had is the Bitcoin ETF, right?
- 3:47So if you put all of those things together, the fact that
- 3:51we've been consolidating at 100K for an entire year, with all of
- 3:57those other things being true, is it too much of A stretch to
- 4:03say that 2026 can continue? And the thing about markets is
- 4:10that markets do the exact opposite of what the consensus
- 4:13believes and what the consensus thinks.
- 4:16And that would go against the consensus because the mainstream
- 4:20consensus right now on Bitcoin X or Bitcoin Twitter is that, hey,
- 4:25you know, the four year cycles, you know that they could, they
- 4:27could be a thing. But if you take.
- 4:30A look at the quantile model that you know some of the
- 4:35bitcoiners have been developing. If I can find it here on my
- 4:39screen, Bitcoin really isn't overheated in the grand scheme
- 4:44of things. I mean, like it's it's really
- 4:47not like take a look at this. I think this guy does fantastic
- 4:51work. We've had him on the show
- 4:53before. His name is Cena.
- 4:55And then here's Stefan Lavera. Bitcoin OG's been in the space
- 4:59for a while. Absolutely love his podcast,
- 5:01good friend. And he says gives us a sense of
- 5:05where things are. We didn't have a crazy euphoria.
- 5:08So to me, it's pretty unlikely we're going bear cycle now,
- 5:12despite the recent sentiment. And you got to ask yourself,
- 5:17even though we're at 100K, even though we're at $100,000 right
- 5:21now, what is the sentiment of the market?
- 5:24It's bad, it's not good. People are not feeling bullish
- 5:28about the price of Bitcoin right now.
- 5:31In fact, if you take a look at retail interest, it's the lowest
- 5:37it's ever been in a very long time.
- 5:40Take out this tweet from Naria Nepal.
- 5:42He says there's virtually 0 social social interest in crypto
- 5:47and Bitcoin right now. I mean, this is the lowest it's
- 5:51ever been since the bear market of 2018-2019.
- 5:57So retail is not paying attention to Bitcoin, mainstream
- 6:02is not paying attention to Bitcoin.
- 6:04And we're consolidating above $100,000.
- 6:09So to me, if you put two and two together and again, this is not
- 6:12financial advice, but if you just lay out the facts, a
- 6:17sovereign wealth funds are interested.
- 6:20They're actively buying Bitcoin. The president's son confirmed
- 6:24that the other day. You have the president of the
- 6:26United States owns the 6th largest treasury company.
- 6:29You have Michael Saylor buying all of the available supply.
- 6:33So when these Bitcoin Ogs exhaust the selling, they run
- 6:39out of coins to sell. Where do you think the price is
- 6:42going to go? And again, that would go, that
- 6:45would go against general market consensus because everyone and
- 6:49their mother believed that Q4 was going to be extremely
- 6:52bullish. And the exact opposite happened.
- 6:56Bitcoin did something that no one expected, which is what
- 7:00markets do because if everyone thought the same thing, it just
- 7:04wouldn't make sense, right? There's winners and there's
- 7:06losers and markets at the end of the day.
- 7:09But anyhow, so take a look at this post from Cena says if you
- 7:13consider the green corridor, we have been range bound since
- 7:162024, yet the uptrend is intact. Now I said in the very
- 7:21beginning, we had a very key number to hit if we wanted to
- 7:26stay above the 50, yeah, the 50 week moving average.
- 7:33And last night we needed to close above hundred $404,900.
- 7:40We did just that. In fact, we got all the way up
- 7:43to $106,000 just right before the weekly close.
- 7:49So the bullish market structure is still intact.
- 7:53And I think this is what's catching everybody by surprise
- 7:56is that they don't understand. And I would say that we are an
- 8:01uncharted territory. Bitcoins never behave like this.
- 8:05Bitcoins never acted like this. We're all, I would say, not all
- 8:09of us, but the majority of people on Bitcoin Twitter kind
- 8:13of scratching themselves saying, hey dude, when is the pump
- 8:17coming? But if you actually take a look
- 8:20at the market, it just looks like we're exactly where we need
- 8:23to be. It's not really overheated.
- 8:26It's not really that cheap. We're kind of right in the
- 8:29middle, right? And it shows it right here in
- 8:31the Bitcoin quantile model. We're right in the middle of
- 8:35things, right? So let's see what happens.
- 8:40But the fact that Coinbase, again, is talking about
- 8:44sovereign wealth funds that are interested in Bitcoin, I think
- 8:49is a very, very, very, very big deal.
- 8:54So anyways, I'm going to pass it on to my beautiful wife who's
- 8:57joining me today in the cohost seat.
- 9:00Opti is currently traveling. We're going to be at Mining
- 9:03Disrupt this week, so forgive us while things get shaken up a
- 9:07little bit. But Sophie, what are you?
- 9:10What are your thoughts on this? Because you've been experiencing
- 9:12this with me this entire year. I think we both had expectations
- 9:16for Bitcoin in Q4. You know of, of of 2025 with the
- 9:21president getting elected, we were celebrating, remember the
- 9:23beginning of the year, we were celebrating the inauguration,
- 9:27Inauguration day. The price of Bitcoin is 109,000.
- 9:31It was good times. Fast forward 11 months later and
- 9:35the Bitcoin price is actually lower than than where it should
- 9:42be, right? So what's what's?
- 9:44Where? Where we.
- 9:45Expected it to be. I think that when institutions
- 9:50come into the picture, everything suddenly becomes a
- 9:54little more bureaucratic, right? I think that it's taking its
- 9:58time and it's not that this is the end of the bull run.
- 10:03I just think it's what Samson Mao said recently that it's been
- 10:09delayed and I think that a lot of important people have bought
- 10:14into this at this point and they're not just going to let
- 10:18Bitcoin crash. They're not going to let this
- 10:20bull run go by the wayside. They are going to make sure, and
- 10:24that's kind of what I got from this report, they are going to
- 10:27make sure that the bull run is still in play.
- 10:30And so it's, it's obviously not meeting our expectations in
- 10:35terms of a timeline, but that just means that we have to wait
- 10:38a little bit more. Father Time is patient and we
- 10:43have to be as well. So it's just a matter of
- 10:47figuring out what it is that these institutions really want
- 10:53to do and what their intentions are, because at this point,
- 10:57they're the ones with the massive amounts of capital and
- 11:00it seems like they are in the driver's seat, not retail.
- 11:04I I got a question for you. Do you think it's, it's over?
- 11:07Do you let's do a wide shot. Do you think it's over?
- 11:09Do you think the days of. Sorry guys, I'm pushing buttons.
- 11:12Do you think the the the the days of of retail driven Bitcoin
- 11:17cycles are behind us? I think in a in a way, yes,
- 11:21because in a way I think that we're not going to get the
- 11:27euphoria, but we're also not going to get these giant dips.
- 11:30Remember that these institutions like stability, they like
- 11:34everything to be, you know, controllable in the status quo.
- 11:37That's not to say that Bitcoin is now going to be completely in
- 11:41their hands. I think that, you know, retail
- 11:43still owns the majority of Bitcoin.
- 11:45Is that right? So it's, it's still, you know.
- 11:50It is right. It is right?
- 11:51So I so I don't think that it's going to necessarily be in the
- 11:55hands or controlled by institutions or BlackRock or the
- 11:59government, but it's definitely like they're the ones that have
- 12:04like the majority of the capital.
- 12:05So it's, it's going to be a lot more stable than we've seen in
- 12:10previous cycles. And that might mean for the
- 12:14Bitcoiner who's been holding since 2013, the end of cycles as
- 12:19we know them. Yeah, I mean, I mean, let's see
- 12:22though, because, you know, to me, what I'm, what I'm, what I'm
- 12:27questioning what I'm thinking is, you know, like it it's at
- 12:34the end of the day, it's it's human nature, right?
- 12:37It's like cycles are human nature.
- 12:39It's it's human psychology. And that we just saw this giant
- 12:43parabola in the gold markets. Gold was trading sideways for
- 12:46like 10 years and then it went parabolic to the point where
- 12:50people were lining outside of whatever, wherever it is you go
- 12:55and buy gold. I wouldn't know, but they were
- 12:58like making lines to go buy gold while the price of gold was
- 13:01going up. So again, I, I don't think you
- 13:04can remove human psychology from markets, right?
- 13:09Like like every, like every stock eventually, like, unless
- 13:12the market cap is so big, but even stocks like Tesla, whose
- 13:17market cap is huge, is extremely volatile, right?
- 13:21So I, I just, I, I just don't see it.
- 13:23I think that this year was a very particular, the year where
- 13:27I think a lot of people had high expectations that Bitcoin was
- 13:30going to do a certain thing. It didn't, which is exactly what
- 13:34markets do. I think that there's been a, a
- 13:36massive amount of cell pressure from individuals that are
- 13:41cashing out. There's an incredible article
- 13:44that was written the other day that was basically making the
- 13:47case that Bitcoin is having its IPO moment where, you know, a
- 13:52lot of these Ogs that were accumulating at, you know, $5 a
- 13:56dollar, $100 per coin. They didn't have the liquidity
- 14:00to cash out earlier on in the earlier cycles without
- 14:04completely crashing the market and they're taking a little bit
- 14:08off the top or, or they're just cashing out in general.
- 14:10Like we saw that with Mike Novogratz and Galaxy where this
- 14:14dude literally, you know, sold. It was, it was like a crazy
- 14:17amount. It was like 80,000 Bitcoin
- 14:19cashing out $9 billion, you know, and then the, the, the
- 14:25official reason given was for, you know, estate planning,
- 14:29right? I think that if you have a net
- 14:31worth of $9 billion and it's all in Bitcoin and a self custodial
- 14:37wallet, you know, I, I, I look, I'm a bitcoiner and I believe in
- 14:42self custody. And you know, I, I, I, I'm, I'm
- 14:46a total advocate for it. And I think I'll, I'll, no, I
- 14:49will always have Bitcoin in self custody because it's the
- 14:53ultimate freedom. But again, if you have $9
- 14:56billion worth of assets, like even for your family's sake,
- 15:01diversifying just a little bit, you know, perhaps into real
- 15:05estate, perhaps into, you know, whatever floats your boat.
- 15:09It's totally valid. It like, you know, maybe you do
- 15:12want to take a look some chips off the top you've been huddling
- 15:15at the end of the day like what are you huddling for?
- 15:19You're huddling for number go up but eventually number goes up
- 15:22and it's it's not like you're going to sell all your Bitcoin.
- 15:24I'm never going to sell all my Bitcoin, but like eventually you
- 15:29want to take a little bit off the top to to upgrade your
- 15:32lifestyle or fund the business that you want to fund or invest
- 15:35in the company that you want to invest in.
- 15:37Eventually it reaches that point, right?
- 15:40So for these O GS that have 10s of thousands of coins, I think
- 15:45the point got there where they knew that there was enough
- 15:47liquidity where they can sell all this Bitcoin into the
- 15:50market. But I think the surprising part
- 15:52to me is the fact that Bitcoin has held that 100K price target
- 15:59extremely well. It's refused to go below
- 16:03$100,000. And we've had some, we've had
- 16:06some scares. I think it went to 9898, ninety,
- 16:099000, but it shot back up extremely quickly.
- 16:13So yeah, I don't know. You've been living through this
- 16:16with me this entire year. We've been talking about this,
- 16:19bickering about it. So I want to get your thoughts
- 16:21on that. So.
- 16:23I wouldn't say that we were bickering about it.
- 16:24I would say maybe. Maybe I was the one bickering.
- 16:31I would say that we were, we were just worried because it
- 16:33wasn't meeting our expectations. And it's totally valid for these
- 16:37people to take money out. You know, the purpose of money
- 16:40isn't for it to just sit there and be a number on a screen.
- 16:43The purpose of money, aside from it hopefully holding its value,
- 16:49which is what Bitcoin tries to to or is achieving it's to
- 16:54actually enjoy it and to actually use it so that you can
- 16:58enjoy it with like the things that it can afford you, right.
- 17:02It's so that you can buy hopefully like that home or that
- 17:06second home so that you can maybe in like your 60s, buy a
- 17:10yacht, don't buy a yacht. It's like the worst idea ever,
- 17:12but you know what I mean? Like you want to buy that thing
- 17:15that you've always dreamed of and you want to enjoy it.
- 17:18And and that's the, you know, purpose of money, especially
- 17:22like later on in life or you want to give your kids an
- 17:26education, you want to, you know, move to a different
- 17:30country. There's a lot of reasons why
- 17:32people might cash out. Obviously that amount you're
- 17:35going to assume that they're trying to go for something a
- 17:38little bit, you know, more luxurious in the billions, but.
- 17:44And I can't. It kind of all depends though,
- 17:46right? It kind of all depends, you
- 17:48know, cuz like it, it all depends on your taste, right?
- 17:50It all depends on what you're trying to get out of your life.
- 17:52But personally I don't. Know the the message, The
- 17:55message I want to get across though, is like, at the end of
- 17:59the day, money's a tool, right? So like people are different,
- 18:03people like different things. Some people like fast cars, some
- 18:05people like yachts, some people like planes, some people don't
- 18:09like those things. Some people are much more
- 18:11simple. I know people that have a lot of
- 18:13money and they literally dress exactly the same.
- 18:16They're super chill, they fly commercial and they just don't
- 18:19care. But fundamentally, at the end of
- 18:21the day, money is a tool. Like that's what money is for,
- 18:24right? And like you're not going to be
- 18:27able to take your Bitcoin with you, right?
- 18:29So eventually you're going to use that tool to fund, right,
- 18:34Whatever it is that you're trying to get out of life.
- 18:36Again, whether that's, you know, the more materialistic things,
- 18:39whether that's a 'cause that you're, you're you, you want to,
- 18:43you know, get behind, whether that's a spiritual thing, right?
- 18:46That you want to get behind it. It it's it's very personal.
- 18:50It's very personal to you. And I completely understand that
- 18:53if you've been holding Bitcoin for, you know, 15 years, it kind
- 18:58of makes sense for you to take a little bit off the top, right?
- 19:02But anyways, here's another clip of again of of of a Coinbase
- 19:08executive talking about institutions and sovereign
- 19:11wealth funds piling in. Instead of that was occurring so
- 19:15institutions sovereigns patient pools of capital were piling in
- 19:19during April which which resulted in about a 13% increase
- 19:23in Bitcoin versus 10 1/2 for gold and retail via the ETF
- 19:27we're exiting. So you got kind of asked
- 19:28yourself, what do the institutions know where the?
- 19:30Institutions buying Bitcoin direct.
- 19:34And how many of them are now buying via ETFs or other forms?
- 19:38Well, hard to say they don't, especially the sovereign wealth
- 19:41funds don't report right now, but you're.
- 19:42Also, I imagine seeing the ETFs buying because the ETF should be
- 19:45buying in. The last couple of days.
- 19:47But the ETF should be buying on a relative basis on behalf of
- 19:49their customer base. Right, assuming there were
- 19:52inflows, right, But the last couple last couple days, yes,
- 19:54we've had but still as of yesterday could change today
- 19:57we've had net negative ETF inflows.
- 19:59So this the first reason is the dollarization.
- 20:02The second reason is this tech unwinding of this big levered
- 20:05tech trade and Bitcoin trading on its core characteristics,
- 20:09which again are similar to gold, you've got scarcity,
- 20:11immutability, non sovereign asset portability.
- 20:14So trading the way. People who believe in Bitcoin
- 20:18would like it to trade. The last was to me the most
- 20:21interesting, which is spoke to a couple of traders who said,
- 20:23look, if you, if you believe these conditions, these de
- 20:26dollarization conditions are going to persist, you're looking
- 20:30at gold obviously first and foremost, but maybe you missed
- 20:32out on that trade. You're looking at that rally and
- 20:34saying I missed the, I missed the boat on that.
- 20:37So what other assets could participate in that market
- 20:40panic, long term inflation hedge?
- 20:42When you do the work, there's a very short list of assets that
- 20:46mirror the characteristics of gold.
- 20:48Bitcoin is on that short list in addition to the four
- 20:50characteristics I mentioned. It's mining scarcity.
- 20:53It's mining difficulty gets harder over time.
- 20:56Yeah. And you can add two or three
- 20:57more good things about Bitcoin that you didn't even mention.
- 21:01So I mean, maybe it never is used to wire money or whatever
- 21:06you want to call it over to. To the Far East or something.
- 21:09But you certainly can do it instantaneously.
- 21:11Frictionless and you can do it overnight.
- 21:13And you don't have to in gold. I mean, you bet.
- 21:15It's heavy. You better store it.
- 21:17You better insure it. I mean, there's a lot of things.
- 21:19Portability isn't under looked at, it's under emphasized skill
- 21:24asset. It's very, very hard to
- 21:27transport lots of large amounts of cash.
- 21:29It's very, very hard to transport large amounts of gold.
- 21:31You can't put $400 million of gold on a small disk drive, tuck
- 21:35it under your arm and move if you need to.
- 21:39So I do want to address a lot of the comments, right?
- 21:41Clearly I triggered a lot of people.
- 21:44So yes, you can take your Bitcoin with you.
- 21:47Yeah, I mean, technically you totally can if you don't tell
- 21:51anybody your private keys, you know, and and you pass away like
- 21:57you know that Bitcoin is. Yeah, I was going to say I would
- 21:59definitely not sell my Bitcoin as an inheritance plan because
- 22:05they can tax that inheritance plan.
- 22:07They can. What do you what do you mean
- 22:08sell it as an? Inheritance like you.
- 22:10You mentioned a lot of like these people who are older like.
- 22:13So but but it was estate planning to be.
- 22:15Specific estate planning, well, yes, sorry like inheritance
- 22:18planning, but estate planning they will, they will tax you for
- 22:24for. No, I mean, but I think there's
- 22:25ways to do it with the trust. There are very few ways, very,
- 22:30very few ways that you know you not every.
- 22:33Yes, there are ways. However, what better way than to
- 22:38leave your family the Bitcoin that you already stacked for
- 22:42years and years? Yeah, but I mean, it's that's a
- 22:45good point. But again, technically right,
- 22:48Like legally speaking, if you pass away and you have $9
- 22:55billion worth of Bitcoin and that gets passed on to your
- 22:59family members you own, you owe taxes on that.
- 23:03Right. Even if it's in self custody.
- 23:06Of course, yeah. So if you pass away, sorry, like
- 23:09really? Yes, of course, that's the law.
- 23:12Oh man. Like, OK, like you can be shady
- 23:16about it and you can like break the law and like, just say, OK,
- 23:20here are the words and, you know, whatever.
- 23:23But like, as the law stands right now, if you pass on
- 23:27Bitcoin, like if you pass away and you get and you leave your
- 23:32Bitcoin to your, you know, to your relatives and it's above, I
- 23:37think the threshold is $13 million, which is a lot of
- 23:40money. It's a lot of money, right?
- 23:43But this person had $9 billion, right?
- 23:46So imagine paying 9 billion, half of $9 billion to the
- 23:50government. That's the that's the estate
- 23:55tax. Got it, got it, got it.
- 23:56So if you're thinking about it, if you've been holding on
- 23:59Bitcoin for like 17 years, right, and you started stacking
- 24:04when you're 20 and now you're like 37404550 and you're like
- 24:10listen, like like even if you didn't sell the whole stack,
- 24:14you're thinking OK, like I got to start thinking I I got it
- 24:18literally he give the reason I. Got I mean, I, I, I love this
- 24:21comment. I love this comment.
- 24:23How would they even know? No, no, no.
- 24:25I mean, this is totally true. This is totally true, right?
- 24:29Like it like we're going to talk about this like later on during
- 24:31the show where there's a recent law in Europe that by 2027
- 24:36they're going to be banning 10,000 any, any cash transaction
- 24:41over $10,000, sorry, €10,000 in Europe is gonna be banned in
- 24:462027. We actually posted yesterday on
- 24:50the Simply Bitcoin X account, how that relates also to Bitcoin
- 24:55and crypto in general, Bitcoin and crypto transactions in
- 24:58general, and where this is this is going.
- 25:01And if you think it's a coincidence that this is
- 25:03happening while they'll while they are simultaneously talking
- 25:07about launching ACBDC, you have your head buried in the sand and
- 25:12you're not really paying attention to what's happening.
- 25:14But I will say is that like, yeah, I think it gets to a point
- 25:20where, you know, look, if you have $9 billion of Bitcoin and
- 25:25you have a family, you know, you're, you're thinking about
- 25:29like, OK, like. Yeah, I made it.
- 25:32I made it. No.
- 25:33But it's not, it's not only that.
- 25:35It's like you're thinking about it.
- 25:36You're like, OK, like, what if something happens to me?
- 25:39You know, technically my family's on the hook for 50% of
- 25:42this if they want to follow the law.
- 25:47Damn. So, yeah, I mean, and, and a,
- 25:50and a way you can mitigate, mitigate, you can mitigate that
- 25:54is through trust. If you set up a trust, then you
- 25:58know, you can legally, you know, get out of, you're not really
- 26:02getting out of it, but you can tax optimize that situation.
- 26:07And I think with that amount of money, I think that's a serious
- 26:11consideration for people. OK, well, now you know.
- 26:14But I, I see, I see a lot of people in the chat just like,
- 26:18look, I'm taking it to the grave.
- 26:19I'm definitely taking some Bitcoin to the grave for sure.
- 26:24But I see a lot of people saying I'm never selling.
- 26:27It's like, OK, like I completely agree.
- 26:29Like I'm I'm never selling. Like what are you going to sell
- 26:32Bitcoin for? You're going to sell Bitcoin for
- 26:35an inferior asset. So I completely agree with you
- 26:37there, but at the same time, you're not paying attention to
- 26:41what if what if you've been holding Bitcoin for 17 years,
- 26:44right? And what if you do want to get a
- 26:47better house? What if you you know, I see
- 26:49someone in the chat talking about paying off my daughter's
- 26:53student loans when it finally hit up 100,000 as promised them
- 26:57was priceless to me. Now they believe in the power of
- 26:59Bitcoin, like, you know, Bitcoin is not an investment, it's an
- 27:03exit. I completely agree with all of
- 27:05those things. But at the end of the day,
- 27:07someone's in the chat says bro lost future millions to pay off
- 27:10student loans early. Like that's the thing.
- 27:13Like guys like, I think, I think I want you guys to understand is
- 27:16that like at the end of the day, look like your life isn't an
- 27:21eternity. Like life, you know, you, you,
- 27:24you know, with like there, there's a certain amount of
- 27:27years that you're going to live. Eventually you're going to want
- 27:30to live a little bit, right? I understand if you're in the
- 27:33first years of stacking, that makes perfect sense, But
- 27:36eventually you're going to want to live out, you're going to
- 27:38want to live a little bit, right?
- 27:40Does that mean you're going to sell your Bitcoin or you know,
- 27:43I've seen some people do this. I personally would I, I actually
- 27:46don't own any Bitcoin, but if I did own any Bitcoin, I
- 27:50personally wouldn't sell that Bitcoin to buy an ETF or
- 27:54anything. But you know, to each their own,
- 27:57like to each their own. Everyone has a different risk
- 27:59profile. Like I will say, if you have
- 28:01billions of dollars of Bitcoin in self custody, boy do that
- 28:07self custody setup must must be really, really, really good.
- 28:11Oh yeah, no. And talk about people who might
- 28:14not even be able to sleep at night because because of their
- 28:18setup, you know, maybe some people after holding for a
- 28:22really long time just kind of want the convenience and the,
- 28:26you know, I saw this really cute meme the other day and it was a
- 28:30bunch of whales like or like it was a picture of whales giving,
- 28:35you know, passing on that Bitcoin to the next generation
- 28:38of Bitcoiners. And I think there's some truth
- 28:40to that because, you know, Pete, there's still so many more
- 28:44people who could benefit from Bitcoin.
- 28:47And these people have kind of gotten to the end of their rope.
- 28:53I, I would say $9 billion is the end of your rope.
- 28:57And now they get to, you know, enjoy their Fiat, enjoy their,
- 29:01you know, whatever the inheritance and estate planning
- 29:05stuff I had no idea of. So now, you know, but you know,
- 29:09some people, there's also people who have like loved ones in
- 29:13hospitals or who have like emergency situations where they
- 29:18need to pay off like certain debts or they need it to save
- 29:21somebody's life. So, you know, it's, it's what
- 29:25Nico said. Everybody has a different risk
- 29:27profile. Everybody has a different
- 29:29purpose for why they need the money that they need.
- 29:32And you know, we can't judge. We can only hope that future
- 29:37generations buy buy Bitcoin. It's their Bitcoin to sell,
- 29:42right? And another thing too, like I
- 29:43see it in the chat, right? Like you can borrow against your
- 29:46Bitcoin, like one of our, one of our partners LED in like they're
- 29:50fantastic. Like you can borrow, you can
- 29:52borrow against your Bitcoin. But I will say is like be
- 29:54careful with that, right? Because they're, you know,
- 29:57Bitcoin's extremely volatile and like, you don't want to get
- 29:59margin called. But yeah.
- 30:01Well, not anymore. It's not as volatile as.
- 30:04We want I. Know Bitcoin bitcoin's become a
- 30:06stable coin clearly but before it became a stable coin it was
- 30:10volatile I also think that this year's a fluke so like this
- 30:14year's a fluke like. Is it really though?
- 30:17I think it's all part of the process.
- 30:19It's not so much a fluke so much as it is part of hyper
- 30:24bitcoinization. It's part of what happens when
- 30:27these institutions finally buy in and they decide to, you know,
- 30:32become part of the movement, Not because they want the
- 30:35revolution, mind you. You always like we're still in
- 30:39the fight them stage in my opinion, but this is what
- 30:43happens. Things start to slow down.
- 30:45You you kind of see the same thing when people went out West
- 30:50to California to mine gold. There was this huge rush and
- 30:54then all of a sudden a bunch of people owned gold.
- 30:57The government, you know, had it as what backed our currency and
- 31:03you know it the the price started stabilizing until now
- 31:06until it ran up to $4000 an ounce.
- 31:10I mean, the price, the price of gold did go sideways for what it
- 31:14was like a decade, which was pretty crazy.
- 31:18And then all of a sudden it had its parabolic movement and the
- 31:21NASDAQ was pumping too, while Bitcoin was going sideways.
- 31:25While Bitcoin has been going sideways.
- 31:27Like that's obviously not a good feeling.
- 31:29I see someone in the chat, very good observation.
- 31:32Q4 is is not over. This is true, but I will say is
- 31:37that I think the lesson of this cycle is like, you know, don't
- 31:41have any expectations in Bitcoin.
- 31:43I think, I think that's a bad, but I think it's a, it's a
- 31:47combination. It's.
- 31:48About don't have any expectations in life, actually
- 31:52you'll be a whole lot better if you just.
- 31:54I think you should have expect. I think you should have
- 31:55aspiration. You should have aspirations but
- 31:57not expectations. I think expectations will screw
- 32:01you over for sure. Okay, okay, some wisdom, some
- 32:04wisdom dropping. The Mom wisdom.
- 32:06Anyways, guys, it's going to be an incredible show.
- 32:10I think this is the first show that me that that Sophie and I
- 32:13do the do the the the show and the studio together.
- 32:17This is this is fun. This is interesting some husband
- 32:20wife type of content. So I'm enjoying it.
- 32:25People in the chat says don't borrow against your whole stack.
- 32:27Yeah, that that's absolutely reckless.
- 32:29I would say don't take out more than 5%.
- 32:32I would say anything above that is starting to get into
- 32:35dangerous territory if you are to take a a a a Bitcoin
- 32:39collateralized loan. But again, everyone has their
- 32:42their risk risk tolerance like SAT wise Janks says far against
- 32:47your Bitcoin. If it ever drops 50% when it
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- 32:54No way to be liquidated. Yeah, again, you just have to be
- 32:59you have to be extremely responsible if you are going to
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- 34:26All right, everybody. We're going to be right back in
- 34:28just a bit. We're going to start the show.
- 34:30We have tons of things to talk about.
- 34:33The government shutdown finally finished.
- 34:35Is that going to cause the price to pump?
- 34:38Maybe. Also, square block of announced
- 34:43that finally 4 million merchants all around the world are going
- 34:49to have the ability to, they're going to have the ability to
- 34:54start receiving payments in Bitcoin.
- 34:59That's right. That is a huge, huge
- 35:03announcement that we're going to talk about.
- 35:06And then during the news segment, we're going to be
- 35:09talking about, again, the EU, the EU cash ban, how it's
- 35:15related to central bank digital currencies, where this is going.
- 35:19And then during the culture segment, I think Sophie and I
- 35:22are just going to be talking about, you know, this crazy
- 35:25journey that we've gone through together.
- 35:28We've been basically together almost our entire lives, but
- 35:31this crazy journey that we've been together, you know, kind of
- 35:35navigating the Bitcoin industry, the Bitcoin sphere, how that's
- 35:39been, how we've grown in the process.
- 35:42So I think the culture segment's going to be fantastic too.
- 35:45So you guys are? Going to want to stay tuned in.
- 35:47We're going to be right back. In just a bit.
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- 37:20At the time of recording, the Bitcoin price is $105,980 Block
- 37:25height 920 Twenty 3032 market cap 2.11 trillion Bitcoin versus
- 37:32gold market cap 7.28% decline from all time high -16% If
- 37:38you're buying Bitcoin right now, you're getting it at a 16%
- 37:42discount. 16% discount. Anyways, I want to play you guys
- 37:47this video again, huge announcement in terms of hyper
- 37:50Bitcoin ization, Bitcoin adoption.
- 37:54I'm going to play the video and then of course Sophie and I will
- 37:56talk about it. Bitcoin can help diversify how
- 38:04you spend, save and invest in your business, especially when
- 38:07every swipe of a credit card eats away at your bottom line.
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- 39:11So that that's absolutely. Huge.
- 39:14That's massive. This is so cool actually.
- 39:17I thought that I hadn't, I hadn't seen the commercial and
- 39:20that actually made me feel something.
- 39:22Did it make you feel something? I mean, it was, well, it was
- 39:24extremely well done. The production value was
- 39:26fantastic, but other than that, if you like focus on the
- 39:29substance, I think it even downplayed the substance, right?
- 39:33Like, you know, again, like I mean it, it kind of had to
- 39:37because. This is for mass viewership.
- 39:40And, you know, I still worry that that people won't care.
- 39:44But it was so well done, honestly.
- 39:46Like, I felt the pain of like, you know, not the pain, but like
- 39:51the the hope that a small business owner might feel
- 39:54watching this and knowing that, you know, there is an easy way
- 39:57to accept Bitcoin and for it to work in your business.
- 40:02Yeah. I mean, I think it's huge.
- 40:04I think it's, it's absolutely massive that the you know that
- 40:08you can now like if you are a store, you can now accept, you
- 40:13know, you could set Bitcoin as payment and as a bitcoiner,
- 40:17right? The fact that you can use
- 40:19Bitcoin as money, right? So any, any it's real
- 40:24peer-to-peer adoption. Right.
- 40:26And the best part about that ad actually for me was the fact
- 40:29that you could take a percentage of your Bitcoin and put it into
- 40:34self custody for yourself as a business.
- 40:36So so now every business has a little SBR.
- 40:39Yeah, the every business can. Can build a a strategic Bitcoin
- 40:43reserve right for them, which is the way Bitcoin is supposed to
- 40:48be. It's it's not just meant for,
- 40:50you know, these large institutions that are taking
- 40:52advantage or not taking advantage, but they're using,
- 40:55you know, the the traditional markets to do a little bit of
- 40:58financial engineering to to buy more and more Bitcoin.
- 41:01At the end of the day, Bitcoin is money of the people for the
- 41:04people. So it's really cool to see, you
- 41:09know, square release this product that again, if you have
- 41:13a square point of sale, right, So you know, and it's very
- 41:17popular, you'll see them all the time.
- 41:19I don't know what food chains or anything, but if you go to like
- 41:22at a pop, a mom and pop shop, like your favorite Taco place,
- 41:26whatever, like a lot of merchants use square as their
- 41:32payment. You know, it's not the it's not
- 41:34the only one, but a lot of them do.
- 41:37And again, what I love about this is market forces do what
- 41:40market forces do best. And if, you know, a square
- 41:44starts to succeed by offering Bitcoin as a means of payment,
- 41:49then it's they're going to force their competitors to do, to roll
- 41:51out the same type of product. They're not going to have a
- 41:54choice, right, Because people are just going to switch to
- 41:56square and say, listen, I, I love you guys, but you guys
- 41:59weren't offering this as, as a, as a, you know, as a product.
- 42:03So I have to use square because it's the only one in town that's
- 42:05able to do so. So this is extremely bullish for
- 42:09and it's being released and it's.
- 42:10Being released at such a great time as well, because if we are
- 42:15to hope that there is still a bull run in play, that means
- 42:20that you know, they're getting in right before the price rips
- 42:24and people are going to have this already implemented.
- 42:29And when it finally does, you know, it's, it's the same thing.
- 42:32It's you know, when the price goes up and people call you get
- 42:35like that call from your cousin saying, hey, like, can you talk
- 42:38to me more about that Bitcoin thing?
- 42:39A lot of businesses are going to look at Square and see this
- 42:43option and say, hey, maybe our business should be accepting
- 42:47Bitcoin, especially since it's so valuable right now.
- 42:52I think I think it's it's going to be great for bitcoinization,
- 42:56Bitcoin adoption and you know, just businesses in general.
- 43:01This is probably better than anything the government could do
- 43:03for you. Oh, oh Shot.
- 43:06Across the bow. So anyways, yeah, guys, smash
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- 43:33Guys, we still have a loaded show for you guys.
- 43:36Some news coming out of Europe and I'm going to connect it with
- 43:39their announcements of a central bank digital currency, which we
- 43:43actually covered on a Friday show last week.
- 43:47It's not a coincidence that they're announcing a central
- 43:52bank digital currency in Europe while simultaneously announcing
- 43:57that they are limiting trash transactions over $10,000.
- 44:02That is not a coincidence and we're going to do a deep
- 44:05breakdown on to why that's not a coincidence and we're going to
- 44:08be doing a deep breakdown into what your alternative is because
- 44:12you really only have another alternative.
- 44:15There is no other alternative, right?
- 44:18Either work within that system or you opt out into freedom
- 44:23money. And freedom money, of course, is
- 44:25Bitcoin. So we're going to be talking
- 44:27about the all of that during the news and then during the culture
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- 48:36I think it's extremely important.
- 48:38I'll, I'll read the headline first.
- 48:40So Luxembourg Times EU introduces €10,000 cap on cash
- 48:46payments The European Parliament and EU member states agreed on
- 48:51Thursday to limit cash payments within the EU to €10,000 as part
- 48:56of legislation to combat money laundering.
- 49:00Some countries, such as France, already have stricter rules than
- 49:04the new European provisions on cash payments, but in others,
- 49:08such as Austria and Germany, cash payments have have until
- 49:13now been unrestricted. The vision is part of a text
- 49:17also designed to better combat the financing of terrorism,
- 49:21concluded after 2 1/2 years of negotiations due to come into
- 49:26force this year. The aim is to harmonize the
- 49:29existing highly disparated regulations in the 27 EU
- 49:33countries in order to detect and limit dubious transactions.
- 49:38This agreement quote will ensure that fraudsters, organized crime
- 49:43and terrorists will no longer be able to legitimize their profits
- 49:47through the financial system. The new legislation also
- 49:51harmonizes and tightens the rules against money laundering,
- 49:54terrorist financing imposed on banks, real estate agents and
- 49:58casinos. These entities will have to be
- 50:01able to identify their customers or the owners of assets behind
- 50:05opaque financial arrangements. The applications of these rules
- 50:10will be extended to the crypto asset sector to ensure
- 50:14traceability there too. They will also apply to trade in
- 50:18luxury goods such as precious metals, jewelry and watches, as
- 50:22well as high end cars, private yacht, private jets and yachts.
- 50:26Finally, professional football clubs and their agents will also
- 50:31be subject to the tougher regulations, but only after a
- 50:34transitional period of five years following the entry into
- 50:38force of the text from 2029 and then later.
- 50:42The new legislation will also strengthen the powers of
- 50:46financial intelligence units. In December, the European
- 50:50Parliament and the member states approved the creation of a
- 50:54European agency to combat money laundering and terrorist
- 50:57financing. Several countries, including
- 51:00France, Germany are seeking to host the agency's headquarters.
- 51:05The new agency, known as Amla, will be responsible for
- 51:10supervising coordinating national authorities to better
- 51:14detect and combat suspicious cross-border activities.
- 51:18This package of measures was proposed by the European
- 51:21Commission by 2021. On Thursday, Financial Service
- 51:26Commissioner Marilyn Guinness welcomed, quote an important
- 51:30step forward in the fight against dirty money in the EU.
- 51:35Now moving on to simply bitcoins coverage of this.
- 51:40And we did get some comments in the in the just just Lola elites
- 51:48and some people were commenting in terms of to be specific
- 51:52around this, and I'm going to let my own thoughts known.
- 51:55So first we posted this very concerning the EU just banned
- 51:59cash payments over 10,000. That's completely true and we'll
- 52:03ID for every Bitcoin transaction starting in 2027.
- 52:07They're criminalizing privacy. Now I want to be specific with
- 52:11this part which says will require ID for every Bitcoin
- 52:15transaction starting 2027. So let's provide a
- 52:18clarification. Shout out to planmen who asked
- 52:23Grok to Fact Check it. And this is what Grok said, the
- 52:26EU's new. AML regulation sets an EU Why
- 52:3010,000 dollar 10,000? Euro cap on cash.
- 52:35Payments for goods and services to combat money laundering, with
- 52:39Member states able to impose lower limits.
- 52:42It was passed by the European Parliament and Council for
- 52:46Crypto. It mandates the travel rule for
- 52:49transfers over €1000 via exchanges, requiring sender
- 52:55slash receiver ID verification and banning account anonymous
- 53:00accounts slash privacy coins but not ID for every tiny keyword.
- 53:06There, peer-to-peer transaction enforcement falls to national
- 53:11authorities under unified EU rules aimed at tracing illicit
- 53:16funds while pervert while preserving some self custody
- 53:20privacy. Some.
- 53:21Now my very obvious question and I got so much heat for we got so
- 53:28much heat for this post specifically and the heat that
- 53:33we got were like, Nico, that's like that's not true.
- 53:36Like you got to be specific like this doesn't apply to crypto and
- 53:40Bitcoin. OK.
- 53:41I'm going to look at you guys straight.
- 53:44Do you think that if they're applying this cap to cash, do
- 53:50you think that they're going to be OK with you transacting
- 53:55freely on the Bitcoin network? Just use a little bit of common
- 54:00sense. Just lose a little bit of common
- 54:03sense. Absolutely not.
- 54:06Another point I'll make. Do you think it's a coincidence
- 54:10that Christine Lagarde goes on, you know, the European Central
- 54:15Bank X account and talks about how she's so happy that the that
- 54:20the CBDC is going to be rolled out?
- 54:23Do you think it's a coincidence that these two things are
- 54:27happening simultaneously? Do you think that's a
- 54:30coincidence? Absolutely effing not.
- 54:33It's not a coincidence. You have a choice in front of
- 54:38you. You have a choice of Bitcoin or
- 54:41you have a choice of a central bank digital currency.
- 54:45They can't completely get rid of cash because it's too
- 54:49politically unpopular. But what they're doing is
- 54:53they're not. They're normalizing the
- 54:57criminalization of privacy. And we're also seeing this in
- 55:02the United States where the samurai wallet developer got
- 55:07sentenced to the maximum jail time.
- 55:10I think he got five years. And by the way, that happened
- 55:13under a pro Bitcoin administration.
- 55:17So you're seeing the demonization, the
- 55:21criminalization of privacy under the guise of money laundering
- 55:28and terrorism. Now, you could say, Nico, those
- 55:33are good reasons. We want to stop those things.
- 55:37I would agree with you, however. Do you guys?
- 55:41Remember the Canadian truckers protest do you guys?
- 55:45Just look at. History and like has the.
- 55:50Government. Ever.
- 55:51Abused their power in order. To control their.
- 55:56Citizens, that's my question to you.
- 56:00The United States of America, the Constitution, was built
- 56:06specifically to protect the citizens from the state, from
- 56:13the government. That's why the First Amendment
- 56:17is freedom of speech. That's why the Second Amendment
- 56:20is the right to bear arms. There's a reason for that,
- 56:25because the Founding Fathers understood tyranny.
- 56:29They understood it fundamentally and they understood that if
- 56:34there's two centers, too much centralized control, they're
- 56:39going to use that against the citizenry.
- 56:44That's going to happen. It's inevitable.
- 56:46So when I see this type of regulations and I saw the
- 56:51comments like Nico, like that's not 100% accurate.
- 56:55You know, this is not 100% like, you know, correct.
- 56:59You know, there there's nuance to it.
- 57:01Like, OK, got you, got me. There.
- 57:04And we told our, we told our Twitter crew said guys, we have
- 57:08to be extremely accurate. We have a lot of people
- 57:11following us. However, come on dude, use a
- 57:15little. Bit of common sense.
- 57:18The CBD CS going to be. Launched out.
- 57:19Around the same time they're banning 10,000 above €10,000
- 57:25cash transaction. Do you really think, do you
- 57:28really think they're going to be OK with Bitcoin transactions?
- 57:34No. And and then my final point is
- 57:37how do you enforce that on the Bitcoin network?
- 57:42I understand how you can enforce that when you can limit ATM
- 57:47withdraws. I understand how you can enforce
- 57:50that with. They already have these
- 57:53limitations by the way, with with PayPal, Zelle, cash app,
- 57:58they're arbitrary. It's.
- 57:59Like you can't send more than 10. 1000 or 5000 or whatever and
- 58:05dollars in cash every month, they're already there.
- 58:07The limits are already there, right?
- 58:10And I'm not going to. Name any names but.
- 58:12Certain banks, if you try to wire a transaction to buy
- 58:15Bitcoin or something like, they'll just flat out reject
- 58:17you, right? They'll just say no, you can't
- 58:19do that with your money. Now imagine that system under a
- 58:24Bitcoin network where you don't have to ask a bank for
- 58:27permission to send the money. Right that.
- 58:30System is incompatible. With the old system.
- 58:32So how are they going to enforce this?
- 58:35Well, just use common sense. Like use the game theory.
- 58:39It's obvious how they're going to enforce this.
- 58:42They're going to 1st. Again, I'm not a fortune teller,
- 58:46but this is where like it's so obvious where this is going.
- 58:50First they're going to say you can only withdraw a certain
- 58:54amount of Bitcoin. You need to give us an ID of
- 58:57where this, you know, ID of the person or you need to verify
- 59:01that you are the owner of this address.
- 59:03I think they're already, they're already doing that right Then
- 59:07after a. While.
- 59:08While more and more people are outside of the system, they're
- 59:12going to say, yo, we literally cannot stop.
- 59:16This peer-to-peer. Thing and people are sending
- 59:19much more money peer-to-peer than this €10,000 cap that we
- 59:25arbitrarily put in, right. How do we stop this?
- 59:30They stop. Allowing.
- 59:31Exchanges to withdraw altogether and it all becomes captured
- 59:36Bitcoin. That's what happens.
- 59:39That's the inevitable outcome of this.
- 59:42So when I get corrections in the post, it's like, yes guys, 100%
- 59:48we should have been more nuanced.
- 59:50But you're missing the bigger effing picture because make no
- 59:55mistake, this is where it's heading.
- 59:58They want you within the system where there is an intermediary
- 1:00:04because they can put pressure in the intermediary.
- 1:00:07To become an agent of the state, to enforce rules in a
- 1:00:12peer-to-peer system where individuals are transacting in a
- 1:00:17peer-to-peer manner. The individuals don't really
- 1:00:20have that incentive, do they? And then this concept that if
- 1:00:25the world is not heavily surveilled and if the and if
- 1:00:30citizens are not able to transact freely, that world is
- 1:00:36somehow unsafer and somehow you. Know.
- 1:00:40Horrible things are going to happen.
- 1:00:43That's a lie. I think the biggest danger to
- 1:00:47the world today, the biggest thing that is bringing pain to
- 1:00:51people today, are central banks with their money printing.
- 1:00:59That is the number. 1. Cause of wealth inequality and
- 1:01:03is the number one 'cause as to why people cannot afford
- 1:01:07anything. It's not these BS rules that
- 1:01:14conveniently benefit the central bankers and politicians.
- 1:01:20The number one thing this. Is you want to know why the
- 1:01:24election in New York went the way it did?
- 1:01:27Do you guys want to know why I did that?
- 1:01:30Why a communist won in New York City, the financial capital of
- 1:01:35the world, he won. Because he was.
- 1:01:38Absolutely right with his messaging.
- 1:01:42People cannot afford anything if you are a Gen.
- 1:01:46Z. Uh, if you are a millennial, you
- 1:01:49can probably not afford a home. That's a fact.
- 1:01:54Why did that happen? Because when the central bank
- 1:01:58prints money, it inflates. Asset.
- 1:02:02Prices. Who owns the majority of the
- 1:02:05assets? The wealthy?
- 1:02:07The older generations, Gen. Z, millennial, you don't have
- 1:02:12savings. Most of them are paycheck to
- 1:02:16paycheck. Your salary is not keeping up
- 1:02:20with inflation. That's why you feel like you
- 1:02:24cannot get ahead every single year.
- 1:02:28That's why you feel poorer. That's why you feel desperation.
- 1:02:33So. Mandami, I think that's.
- 1:02:35How you pronounce his name, right?
- 1:02:37Yeah. His messaging was 100.
- 1:02:40Percent spot on. Like he was right.
- 1:02:43I I fundamentally disagree with him ideologically 100.
- 1:02:49Percent in terms. Of his his methods to fix the
- 1:02:53problem, but to to to. Say that he did not.
- 1:02:59Correctly identify a problem and hit a nerve.
- 1:03:02You are 100% naive, he 100. Percent.
- 1:03:07Got it right. People can't afford anything and
- 1:03:12it's the central. Bank's fault?
- 1:03:14It's not capitalism's fault. It's not because your party
- 1:03:18didn't win an election. It's not because of greedy
- 1:03:22corporations. It's because governments cannot
- 1:03:25help but to print money. That is literally what is
- 1:03:30happening. And if you switch to a Bitcoin
- 1:03:32standard, guess what? Your life.
- 1:03:36Gets cheaper. Everyone's life around you, if
- 1:03:40they're living on Fiat, it gets more expensive.
- 1:03:43If you're living on Bitcoin and using Bitcoin as your unit of
- 1:03:46account, you get wealthier overtime.
- 1:03:50Everything around you gets cheaper overtime like it should
- 1:03:54be to quote. Jeff Booth, the.
- 1:03:57Natural state of the free market is deflationary.
- 1:04:01The only reason we are not witnessing that as human beings,
- 1:04:06or perhaps you're not witnessing that or experiencing that, is
- 1:04:10because you're not using Bitcoin as your unit of account.
- 1:04:13You're not using Bitcoin as your money.
- 1:04:16Anyways, rant over. So.
- 1:04:20I'm going to pass it on to you. 'Cause this Europe stuff.
- 1:04:23Is crazy and and we were we were in Europe all.
- 1:04:26We were in Europe in in the summer.
- 1:04:27We we had some fantastic times. You know, we were travelling
- 1:04:31different cities, but like. Boy would I not want to effing
- 1:04:36live. There I mean.
- 1:04:38I would want to live there if it was different than than it was.
- 1:04:44Wow, what a rant. If you loved that rant, smash
- 1:04:47the like button, subscribe to our channel, hit the
- 1:04:50notification bell and share the show with your friends.
- 1:04:52But yeah, the that's the thing that people don't realize.
- 1:04:57People get so concerned with being accurate.
- 1:05:00And, and I understand that for a journalism, I mean, Lola Leets
- 1:05:04is a journalist. We're more of journalism slash
- 1:05:08entertainment, right? But the reality is that we're
- 1:05:13here to see, you know, to zoom out and see the big picture.
- 1:05:17And the what the big picture tells us is that this has
- 1:05:21happened before. And if this has happened before
- 1:05:25with Fiat, then it will happen again or they will try to make
- 1:05:29it happen again with Bitcoin. And that's the part that people
- 1:05:33cannot let repeat, right? You can't let them, you know,
- 1:05:38put us in a position where we didn't learn from the past and
- 1:05:41we didn't learn that, you know, this isn't going to work.
- 1:05:44Obviously, Bitcoin is very different.
- 1:05:47It's totally decentralized. They can't technically make this
- 1:05:50happen, but they can make our lives very difficult and put us
- 1:05:54in a box or, you know, make it so that there are rules in place
- 1:05:59that make Bitcoin that much more inconvenient.
- 1:06:03And that's what we have to be afraid of.
- 1:06:06I think that, you know, the biggest thing that you can do to
- 1:06:09combat this is opt out of the system is, you know, try to buy
- 1:06:13Bitcoin non KYC, try to buy bit or use Bitcoin between your
- 1:06:18friends peer-to-peer. I would say sorry.
- 1:06:21I would say instead of. Say again.
- 1:06:23Like I want to be like, like when you say again, I, I when
- 1:06:30you say buy. Bitcoin try to buy.
- 1:06:31Bitcoin non KYC right? Like, let's reframe it because
- 1:06:35that's using their framing, right?
- 1:06:38Try. To earn Bitcoin, yes, that's so
- 1:06:42much. Better try to mine Bitcoin,
- 1:06:44right? You want to mine Bitcoin, you
- 1:06:47can mine Bitcoin. You don't need an ID for that,
- 1:06:52right? You can earn Bitcoin, you don't
- 1:06:54need an ID for that, right? You know you can buy something
- 1:06:58off of your friend. You don't need an ID for that
- 1:07:01for now, right? I'm I'm.
- 1:07:02I'm pretty positive they'll try. I don't think you'll ever need
- 1:07:05an ID I. Mean you you.
- 1:07:08I think you underestimate. Where?
- 1:07:09We are where we are in the movie.
- 1:07:12What's happening right now? Like I'll, I'll pass it.
- 1:07:15So we, we literally talk about this every single day, right?
- 1:07:18Do you remember all the censorship that was happening
- 1:07:21with Twitter and X and the fact that they literally deplatform
- 1:07:25the president of the United States and they started
- 1:07:27deplatforming a bunch of content creators and stuff like that?
- 1:07:30Like that was because they were losing their monopoly on the
- 1:07:34control of information, and they're still losing it.
- 1:07:37I, I would say that what happened there, at least in
- 1:07:41terms of the media, is that eventually the free market won.
- 1:07:45And I think that eventually the free market is going to win here
- 1:07:49as well. I think people are going to
- 1:07:51realize that they are not happier in the hands of the
- 1:07:55government, that the government is actually not making their
- 1:07:57lives any better. And so they're going to realize
- 1:08:01pretty quickly that opting out is not only viable but
- 1:08:06preferable to having a happier life.
- 1:08:10I I don't know, but I don't know about that.
- 1:08:12Like I, I just, I, I think, I mean, I think that's what
- 1:08:15happened with media. I think people got tired of
- 1:08:18being lied to and eventually that led to them switching from
- 1:08:23what I mean, it happened. I saw it happen with my mom and
- 1:08:26it was like the most interesting thing.
- 1:08:29She used to be, you know, total legacy media maxi.
- 1:08:33And then all of a sudden she started watching Russell Brand
- 1:08:37and and she went down the rabbit hole and started watching, you
- 1:08:41know, a lot of independent media.
- 1:08:44And I think that that's that same shift in in mentality will
- 1:08:51eventually happen when it comes to money.
- 1:08:55Yeah, Yeah. I I mean I I.
- 1:08:57I I just think it's going to be a lot more bumpy because I think
- 1:09:00for sure, 'cause this is, this is.
- 1:09:02Money we're talking about. This is Money we're talking
- 1:09:04about. That's what I'm saying.
- 1:09:05Like. I feel like, like with
- 1:09:06information, it's like, yeah, guys, we damn, we lost it.
- 1:09:10But look at how much they fought, right?
- 1:09:12Like even in the US where like you're explicitly protected by
- 1:09:16the 1st Amendment, they didn't give 2 flying FS about that.
- 1:09:20Well, but that's because there were.
- 1:09:21Also, I'm forgetting the name of this thing that Obama repealed.
- 1:09:27It's where now basically the media is allowed to lie to you.
- 1:09:32That used to not be the case. Basically you can.
- 1:09:36There used to be a law where like propaganda used to not be
- 1:09:40legal essentially. And like he kind of removed that
- 1:09:43that thing. But the point is, is like, why
- 1:09:46is the why is the government in in why is the government which
- 1:09:50you pay taxes for in the business of propagandizing you?
- 1:09:55That's the that's the illusion, right?
- 1:09:57It's like supposedly because the Internet happened because.
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- 1:12:11So it was funny. While that was happening,
- 1:12:13someone in the in the in the chat is talking about Litecoin.
- 1:12:18Read the room. Dude, you're in the wrong.
- 1:12:21You're in the wrong show for that.
- 1:12:24But you know, I want to give a shout out to a line.
- 1:12:27Who actually brought up it's the Smith Munt Act repealed by Obama
- 1:12:32to allow the propaganda we use on the people of the world to be
- 1:12:36used on us? So there you go.
- 1:12:39Yeah, I mean, there you go. And then again, my question to
- 1:12:42you is like you, you're paying for that through taxes.
- 1:12:45Like why is the business in the why is the government in the
- 1:12:47business of propagating propagate?
- 1:12:51How do you propaganda propagate? Why can't we speak English?
- 1:12:56Wow, that is a hard word. Propagandizing there we.
- 1:12:59Go propagandizing. Why is the?
- 1:13:03Government in the Business of. Propagandizing their citizens?
- 1:13:07I think that's a really. And then why do I know the
- 1:13:09answer to this? What's the answer it's?
- 1:13:12Because the Internet. It's because of the Internet,
- 1:13:16the decentralization of information essentially made it
- 1:13:19so that they had to take control of the reins.
- 1:13:23And you see the same thing playing out here with money.
- 1:13:27They're not just going to let people, are you crazy?
- 1:13:30Like they're not just going to let people use Bitcoin without a
- 1:13:33fight. And that's what we're seeing
- 1:13:35right now is a fight. Are we going to see, are we
- 1:13:38gonna, are we gonna win in the next 10 years?
- 1:13:41Maybe, maybe not. I don't know.
- 1:13:43I think with the Internet, it took until, you know, 2020 for
- 1:13:48people to really open their eyes and see that they were being
- 1:13:51propagandized. I, I think that's when the
- 1:13:53biggest shift of people were realizing that the same tactics
- 1:13:58that they were using in legacy media were being applied online
- 1:14:01in the form of bots, in the form of, you know, fake likes the,
- 1:14:05the dead Internet theory or whatever.
- 1:14:08So I think that same thing is going to apply with Bitcoin
- 1:14:13because now we've decentralized money and when you decentralize
- 1:14:17money, you completely take away their control to be able to say
- 1:14:22what house you want to buy, what kind of job you want.
- 1:14:24It affects everything. You know, it's, it is the base
- 1:14:27layer of society. It affects how you want to even
- 1:14:30like raise your kids. So, yeah, it it is because of
- 1:14:35the Internet and a byproduct of the Internet was Bitcoin is
- 1:14:38Bitcoin. So that's, that's what happened.
- 1:14:44Yeah, I, I. I completely agree.
- 1:14:47And yeah, no, I, I, I think you broke it down the, the great
- 1:14:50disintermediation and I think governments are, are freaking
- 1:14:53the F out that social media is a thing.
- 1:14:56The fact that we can just spin up a live stream and have a, you
- 1:15:00know, semi professional studio, it's like when they came out
- 1:15:04with the. Printing press.
- 1:15:05I know simply like, it's crazy guys like.
- 1:15:07To even say this like, like we get more views than some legacy
- 1:15:12media outlets like that are a whole lot more quote UN quote
- 1:15:16legitimate and have all the bells and whistles and and we
- 1:15:19blow them out of the water, right?
- 1:15:21And I think that's why they reacted the way they did.
- 1:15:27And I think that's why they're they're propaganda.
- 1:15:29But but it's it's too look, legacy media would put the
- 1:15:33Soviet Union propaganda to shame.
- 1:15:36Oh, yes, yes. It would put it to shame.
- 1:15:39There there's. A whole complex, right?
- 1:15:42There's like. I don't even.
- 1:15:44This is Wait, can we talk about actually the?
- 1:15:46Sydney Sweeney thing. This is the Sydney Sweeney.
- 1:15:49Yes, the Sydney Sweeney interview was a perfect example
- 1:15:53of that. This girl was trying, the
- 1:15:56interviewer was trying to get her, you know, to either say
- 1:15:59something embarrassing. She was trying to get force an
- 1:16:01apology. She was either trying to get her
- 1:16:04to. Force an apology or even better,
- 1:16:06say something embarrassing so that they could further cancel
- 1:16:09this poor girl. And, you know, she just held her
- 1:16:12ground. And what it how did the Internet
- 1:16:15react? They went feral with a bunch of
- 1:16:19meme templates. And you know that that was the
- 1:16:23real communication there that we we won.
- 1:16:27Essentially, the people have taken back their power in terms
- 1:16:31of information warfare. So I think the same thing if Sri
- 1:16:37Rhymes has to follow with money. I think that's a.
- 1:16:43Like, fantastic observation #1 and #2 yeah, I mean, like the
- 1:16:48memes that were created through that.
- 1:16:50This is so good. Were like.
- 1:16:52Hilarious like. You know, like this template.
- 1:16:55I, I got to say though, when I, when I posted this, the template
- 1:16:58was like relatively new. Now I feel like it's just been
- 1:17:02overdone but it like the template went effing viral.
- 1:17:06And again, like she knows. She tried to.
- 1:17:08I'm not going to get into the details she has like this Mona
- 1:17:11Lisa. Smile about her that she just
- 1:17:13doesn't care, but it's like real socialism.
- 1:17:16That wasn't the actual conversation, but whatever, you
- 1:17:18guys, you know what I'm saying? Like this is the meme.
- 1:17:20Check out the video. I don't want to get into the
- 1:17:22details. This is not the purpose of the
- 1:17:23show, but just check out the thing.
- 1:17:26It was definitely a gotcha question.
- 1:17:28I will say that Sydney definitely prepared for it.
- 1:17:31There's no way she just did that off the cuff.
- 1:17:35But you know, it was, it was very well answered.
- 1:17:38But yeah, again, it's like kind of like this forced like.
- 1:17:43They shame. You into.
- 1:17:44Not. Like if you don't believe the
- 1:17:46mainstream quote UN quote institutional consensus, you're
- 1:17:50other right? And I think the same.
- 1:17:52Kind of same thing is going to they're going to use the same
- 1:17:55tricks with money, right? And you say that you you kind of
- 1:17:59fell into the the framing when you're like acquire KYC Bitcoin,
- 1:18:03right? Like that's, Well, yeah, KYC
- 1:18:06free Bitcoin. But that's their framing, right?
- 1:18:08Like in the white paper, there is no such thing as KYC Bitcoin.
- 1:18:13Like in the white paper, there is no such thing as a unhosted
- 1:18:17wallet. Like that's their framing.
- 1:18:20Like those are that's true. And you know it's.
- 1:18:22It gets confusing sometimes because you don't know when to.
- 1:18:25You have to understand, you have to.
- 1:18:27And this is like kind of what I'm learning from this
- 1:18:29conversation. You have to use their language
- 1:18:33when it's against them, but you have to opt out of their
- 1:18:36language when you're, you know, trying to, to really opt out of
- 1:18:42the whole thing that they're trying to implement in the 1st
- 1:18:44place. You can't give it any
- 1:18:46legitimacy. No, I mean, I think, I think.
- 1:18:49Ridicule is is the best. And I think that's why these
- 1:18:52this meme was so effective. And I think that's why it went
- 1:18:54absolutely so viral the way it did, because it it was a form of
- 1:18:58ridicule. Like it was so ridiculous.
- 1:19:00And again, like, the reason they censor is because they have to
- 1:19:04censor because they're losing control and we're out, meaning
- 1:19:08them with the money too. Like when Christine Lagarde
- 1:19:12posts, like you look at the comments, it's like the amount
- 1:19:15of ridicule. So yeah, I mean it again, guys,
- 1:19:19like don't fall for like this guise of safety and security.
- 1:19:23And it's like, if you don't do it our way, like the world's
- 1:19:27going to burn down. Like, I'm sorry, I refuse to
- 1:19:29believe that. I think the number one, the
- 1:19:33number one threat to human prosperity right now in our day
- 1:19:39and age is the institution of central banking.
- 1:19:43I think that is the number one threat to humanity.
- 1:19:47I think it's the number one threat to the youth.
- 1:19:51It's the. Biggest.
- 1:19:52Obstacle that you have to get ahead and you have a tool to opt
- 1:19:57out of the central banking system into the Bitcoin system
- 1:20:01and you'll immediately start and not immediately, but over time
- 1:20:06you'll start to feel the benefits of that as everything
- 1:20:09around. You gets.
- 1:20:10Progressively cheaper over time. Most of the world has not.
- 1:20:14Waken up to that. Reality The thing is though, is
- 1:20:17that that very system, it needs you.
- 1:20:20It needs you to be within it. It needs you to use it, right?
- 1:20:25Bitcoin system doesn't need you to use it.
- 1:20:26It's, it's optional, right? It's a coercive system versus a
- 1:20:30voluntary system. So yeah, I'll leave it at that.
- 1:20:34I really enjoyed this. This is fantastic.
- 1:20:36Yeah, we should do it again sometime, husband.
- 1:20:39And wife special, but we're gonna.
- 1:20:40Be doing it. I know the rest of the.
- 1:20:42Week, the rest of the. Week opti is.
- 1:20:44Traveling, ladies and gentlemen. So he's in Dallas right now.
- 1:20:46We're gonna be at the Mining District Conference tomorrow.
- 1:20:50Luke Mikic and Chris Alamo are going to be filling in.
- 1:20:54They're going to be hosting the show.
- 1:20:56And then on Wednesday, I forget who it's going to be.
- 1:21:00It's me. It's it's Sophie.
- 1:21:02And Luke? And then Thursday, you and I
- 1:21:06will be back and Friday as well. So bear with us.
- 1:21:09We're going to be traveling again this week for a a mining
- 1:21:12conference. Hopefully we'll get you guys
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- 1:21:35Thursday, right? I'll see you guys.
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