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The Field of Vampires: Unearthing Historical Fears · PNW Haunts & Homicides

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Speaker 1: So I unintentionally stuck with the paranormal ish theme oo
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Speaker 1: with this week's topic, which we will be discussing Poland's
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Speaker 1: fields of vampires.
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Speaker 3: Oh ooh, this is going to be really interesting but
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Speaker 3: also probably gross, not too gros yes, yes, o, yes, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I just that area in vampires. They were pretty pretty
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Speaker 3: swift and harsh.
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Speaker 2: I remember, yeah, I remember correctly. Yeah, nipped that in
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Speaker 2: the bud m hmm.
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Speaker 1: Information was pulled from the following sources. A twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: four Archaeology News Online article by Dario Radley, twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: four CNN article by Katie Hunt, twenty twenty four Daily
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Speaker 1: Mail article by Harry Howard, twenty twenty four Daily Mail
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Speaker 1: article by Jonathan Chadwick, twenty twenty four Express article by
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Speaker 1: Rebecca Robinson twenty twenty four. Lit Hub article by Ed Simon,
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, Reuter's article by Thomas Holdstock twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 1: Indy one hundred posts by Alex Daniel twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 1: mirror posts by Ryan fahey Fahi one of those. Twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty two Art's article by Victoria Greenboy and Rich, twenty seventeen,
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Speaker 1: Smithsonian Magazine article by Joshua Rapp Learn twenty fifteen, Lund
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Speaker 1: Archaeological Review article by LESSEG. Gardela twenty fourteen Givesmoto article
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Speaker 1: by George Dvorski and a History UK article.
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Speaker 3: Say soah, and twenty twenty four was quite the year.
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Speaker 1: And hey, thanks for listening. All right, picture this. Imagine
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Speaker 1: you were out with your partner excavating with a trowel
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Speaker 1: on a hill when you suddenly hear the sound of
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Speaker 1: its striking metal odd right.
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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I mean, unless you're taken for treasure.
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Speaker 1: You're there for a reason. But even otter, and one
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Speaker 1: would argue more horrifying would be to then clear away
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Speaker 1: some of the soil and debris to discover that what
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Speaker 1: you've uncovered is a body, but not just anybody, one
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Speaker 1: with a sickle over its neck and an iron padlock
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Speaker 1: on its toe.
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Speaker 2: Mmm. I remember those legends. Yep, mm hmm.
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Speaker 3: You discovered a vampire body, A says nec did vampire
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Speaker 3: body mm hmmm, a sickle on.
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Speaker 1: The neck, like around the neck, So if they would
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Speaker 1: have tried to sit up, it would have decapitated them.
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Speaker 3: Dang h and I bet they made those really sharp too.
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got body.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So this was the reality a professor Darius Polinski
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Speaker 1: and his partner Magda Zagradska in twenty twenty two outside
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Speaker 1: the village of pn in northern Poland, where they had
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Speaker 1: been working. They couldn't have known at the time was
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Speaker 1: that their innocent discovery would uncover something much darker, the
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Speaker 1: grave vampire quote unquote what now understandably. Archaeologists from Torrean's
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Speaker 1: Nikolaus Copernicus University who were part of Darius's team, wanted
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Speaker 1: to know more about the eighteen to twenty year old
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Speaker 1: woman who would go on to be named Zosha. After
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Speaker 1: uncovering the rest of her remains, which would go on
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Speaker 1: to reveal that she had passed over four hundred years
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Speaker 1: ago in the seventeenth century, they discovered a possible deformity
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Speaker 1: on her breastbone that would have not only caused her
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Speaker 1: constant and severe pain, but would have raised fears that
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Speaker 1: she was a vampire. Okay, analysis of her skull led
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Speaker 1: the team to believe she may have suffered from a
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Speaker 1: health condition that caused severe headaches and even fainting. She
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Speaker 1: also had a protruding tooth, so she had some physical deformities.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so she was a little different looking, is what
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Speaker 3: it sounds like.
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Speaker 1: When she was found, Zosha had a cap on her
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Speaker 1: head made of silk fabric and metallic threads of silver
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Speaker 1: and gold, which meant she would have been someone of
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Speaker 1: high social status despite her deformities.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: DNA and chemical isotopes were used to learn more about her,
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Speaker 1: and due to the fact that she passed away amidst
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Speaker 1: the Swedish Polish Wars, researchers speculate that she may have
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Speaker 1: originated in southern Scandinavia and been Swedish, thus marking her
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Speaker 1: as a quote unquote unwonted outsider in the region.
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Speaker 3: Hmm. But then why was she buried in such finery.
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Speaker 3: I don't know they respected her enough to bury her
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Speaker 3: well ish, you know, aside from the whole your vampire thing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and according to an article by CNN, quote in
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Speaker 1: the seventeenth century, was also in the grip of what's
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Speaker 1: known as the Little Ice Age, a period of cooling
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Speaker 1: that in some places led to crop failure and famine
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Speaker 1: end quote. So keep that in mind. So factoring in
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Speaker 1: the time of her death, the placement of the sickle
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Speaker 1: over her neck and the padlock on her left big
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Speaker 1: toe would have been used as a sort of double
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Speaker 1: protection to ensure she couldn't rise from the grave. The
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Speaker 1: significance of the padlock on the big toe is believed
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Speaker 1: to symbolize the closing of her life cycle, and the
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Speaker 1: fact that both were made from iron, which was thought
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Speaker 1: to protect against the supernatural.
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Speaker 3: It'd be funny if, ironically they used like limestone, because
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Speaker 3: like lime is supposed to be like super conductive, like
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Speaker 3: instant vampire creation.
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Speaker 1: Darius doesn't believe that the sickle and padlock were placed
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Speaker 1: on Zosha at the same time.
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Speaker 2: Oh okay.
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Speaker 1: So, according to that same interview on it with CNN quote,
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Speaker 1: initially she was buried in the coffin in a natural position,
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Speaker 1: with the head towards the west and on a pillow
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Speaker 1: and the padlock on her toe. So she was buried
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Speaker 1: with the padlock.
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Speaker 3: Because they were concerned. They were like, hmm, she looks
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Speaker 3: weird and she's an enemy, so let's just do this.
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Speaker 1: Maybe because of some misfortune or the death of somebody else,
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Speaker 1: they decided to open the grave end quote. So there
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Speaker 1: was some external event.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like maybe a like a disaster, some sort of
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Speaker 3: sickness came through shortly after she died, and she was
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Speaker 3: the catalyst, the scapegoat.
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Speaker 1: During the process of opening her coffin and disturbing her remains,
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Speaker 1: her spine became twisted, likely as they were attempting to
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Speaker 1: place her face down, so instead they chose to secure
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Speaker 1: the sickle over her throat to prevent her from rising
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Speaker 1: from the dead. Zoshas is the only skeleton that was
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Speaker 1: found with a sickle around her neck.
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Speaker 3: Man, So either yeah, she was definitely suspected of being
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Speaker 3: a vampire or somebody just really didn't like her.
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Speaker 1: Zosha's final resting place was unmarked and no other headstones
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Speaker 1: or churches were in the nearby vicinity.
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Speaker 3: What were they doing in the air, Like, what were
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Speaker 3: they looking for?
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Speaker 2: Were they looking for her?
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Speaker 3: Was there like a suspected thing or like.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to kind of get into it, but they
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Speaker 1: were excavating the area because this area in some areas
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Speaker 1: that are very close by are known. I don't want
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Speaker 1: to say hotbeds, because they're not really hotbeds, but known
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Speaker 1: places of these types of burials.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so.
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Speaker 3: They were digging there because they've discovered other kind of random,
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Speaker 3: unmarked graves.
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Speaker 2: Got it.
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Speaker 3: This was kind of like a weird othered people burial ground.
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Speaker 2: Almost Yes, you got it. Okay, interesting.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Darius believes that she was likely taken out to
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Speaker 1: the remote location and abandoned due to fears that she
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Speaker 1: was a vampire.
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Speaker 2: That makes sense.
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Speaker 3: I mean, if I was starving and everything in my
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Speaker 3: life was turning upside down and it all kind of
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Speaker 3: happened when that person died, I'd be afraid of her too,
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Speaker 3: I guess.
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Speaker 1: Historian Dan Jones notes of Zoshaw's discovery quote, I have
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Speaker 1: to admit when I first saw the pictures, I was
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Speaker 1: incredibly excited. I have never seen anything like this before.
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Speaker 1: Is this a crime scene? Is this evidence of the supernatural?
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Speaker 1: Is this evidence of a unique craze? Or are we
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Speaker 1: in fact stepping back into an entirely different world in
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Speaker 1: which Europe was governed by totally different rules? End quote?
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Speaker 3: Probably a mix of all of it. Yeah, honestly.
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Speaker 1: In an interview that Darius gave with The Times, quote
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Speaker 1: what we know for sure is that this place, this cemetery,
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Speaker 1: was for people who were excluded from the community. There
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Speaker 1: are no historical sources about this place, which is very strange.
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Speaker 1: It means that it was a cemetery for people who
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Speaker 1: were abandoned. It has been written out of history. It
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Speaker 1: can be assumed that for some reason, those burying the
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Speaker 1: woman were afraid that she would rise from the grave.
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Speaker 1: The sickle was not laid flat, but placed on the
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Speaker 1: neck in such a way that if the deceased had
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Speaker 1: tried to get up, most likely the head would have
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Speaker 1: been cut off or injured.
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Speaker 2: That's so scary.
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Speaker 1: Ways to protect against the return of the dead include
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Speaker 1: cutting off the head or legs, placing the deceased face
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Speaker 1: down to bite into the ground, burning them, and smashing
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Speaker 1: them with a stone end quote.
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Speaker 2: I don't know how you could it.
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Speaker 3: There must have been like it'd be really interesting to
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Speaker 3: see what that.
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Speaker 2: Kind of panic was at.
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Speaker 3: That time, because you have to think, like how palpable
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Speaker 3: is that panic to desecrate a body like that, Like well.
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Speaker 1: Not only that, but like the body of someone who
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Speaker 1: is of high standing as well.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're kind of going against everything at the time,
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Speaker 3: like almost every religion, Like, you do not damage the
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Speaker 3: physical body because that's the body that carries you to
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Speaker 3: whatever after life you're expecting. So like, if you want
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Speaker 3: to really you know, ruin somebody's after life, you mess
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Speaker 3: with their bodies. So that but that's not like a
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Speaker 3: something people take lightly.
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Speaker 2: That's crazy.
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Speaker 3: That like I just can't imagine it, Like I don't know,
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Speaker 3: just really smashing the head in of somebody that's dead,
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Speaker 3: just just in case, like kay.
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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, the story of Zosia once more
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Speaker 1: resurfaced following a facial reconstruction that had been made of her.
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Speaker 3: Ah okay, so that's what the hotbed was is she
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Speaker 3: got a new photo online and everybody started liking it.
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Speaker 1: Darius and team worked with famed Swedish facial reconstruction expert
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Speaker 1: Oscar Nielsen, who performed a digital scan of Zosia's skull
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Speaker 1: in order to make a copy. With the aid of
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Speaker 1: a three D printer using clay and silicone, he was
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Speaker 1: able to give her quote unquote muscles and skin. This
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Speaker 1: is the same archaeological reconstructionist that did the face of
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Speaker 1: the woman from Jonestown.
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Speaker 2: Oh wow.
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Speaker 1: And I think he also did the one which that
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Speaker 1: we covered too, where there was like facial reconstruction of her.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like how fascinating of a thing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if he was involved with the
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Speaker 1: priestess from Lulaiko the Maiden.
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Speaker 3: That's awesome, Like how do you even how do you
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Speaker 3: get that career?
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Speaker 2: How do you start? I know that job?
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Speaker 3: Like it just sounds so cool, like you get to
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Speaker 3: be an artist and a historian and.
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Speaker 1: Like yeah, like he so he did like a bunch
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Speaker 1: of research into like genealogy of what people like looked
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Speaker 1: like in that time, like based off her ancestry, but
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Speaker 1: sort of facial features she would have had, you know,
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Speaker 1: all this stuff, Like it's crazy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like just researching like what your skin texture could
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Speaker 3: potentially be like with the climate at the time. Because
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Speaker 3: we have all of that information. It's just I can't
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Speaker 3: imagine piecing that altogether. That would take so much time. Probably, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: depending on when they engaged with him, it sounds like
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Speaker 3: a couple of years before they would have unveiled it
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Speaker 3: after finding her, because they found her in twenty two
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Speaker 3: and the photo went up in twenty four.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to send you I'm so excited. I really
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Speaker 2: want to see.
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Speaker 3: Oh, Wow, Okay, I'm sorry, but if she's supposedly deformed
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Speaker 3: like what, she's really pretty.
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Speaker 1: I think it was some sort of based off some
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Speaker 1: of the articles that I read. The deformity was on
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Speaker 1: her breastbone, so it's likely she had some sort of
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Speaker 1: tumor and that's what the deformity was.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I wonder, yeah, because that a lot of the
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Speaker 3: time they believed like any sort of extra tumor's abscesses
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Speaker 3: and stuff were like devil's marks. So I bet she
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Speaker 3: was probably able to hide it well until she died.
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Speaker 2: Potentially potentially.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. The most chilling thing about Zosha's discovery isn't just
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Speaker 1: the means that were taken to protect the people who
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Speaker 1: buried her from her rising from the grave. It's the
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Speaker 1: fact that she wasn't the only one. In fact, she
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Speaker 1: was one of around one hundred people who have been
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Speaker 1: buried in what is now referred to as the Field
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Speaker 1: of Vampires.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so this was a pretty intense panic. Then.
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Speaker 1: The site, which is located near don Brava Helmensk in
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Speaker 1: northern Poland, was first excavated in two thousand and five,
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Speaker 1: and the field was used as a cemetery for around
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Speaker 1: four generations in the seventeenth century, although there are no
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Speaker 1: records of its existence or any features of it on
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Speaker 1: any maps. Eerie those interred in this area include a
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Speaker 1: pregnant woman with her fetus still in her womb, a
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Speaker 1: woman with advanced syphilis, a man buried with the corpse
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Speaker 1: of a child at his feet, and the remains of
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Speaker 1: a partially exhumed child. Of the nearly one hundred graves,
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Speaker 1: about thirty, like Zosha's bear signs of the interred being restrained.
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Speaker 2: That's not good.
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Speaker 3: So that's definitely likely a bury alive situation, or wasn't
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Speaker 3: dead fully and couldn't do anything.
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Speaker 1: Or similar to Zoshas, something was put to prevent them
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Speaker 1: from being able to get out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So, Zosha's is grave number seventy five at the Unmarked Cemetery,
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Speaker 1: which is located outside the city of Bedgosht. In twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty three, child's remains were found face down with the
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Speaker 1: upper torso missing, and a pad lot that's similar to
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Speaker 1: Zosha's was found beneath the legs.
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Speaker 3: So they sounds like they were successful in doing what
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Speaker 3: they had attempted with Zosha on this child.
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Speaker 1: Oh God, I couldn't confirm if that was the one
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Speaker 1: that was like partially exhumed.
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Speaker 3: Oh, that would make that would make sense, you know,
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Speaker 3: since it was technically a partial body that was found.
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Speaker 1: Darius believes the unmarked cemetery was designed specifically for the
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Speaker 1: unwanted and excluded members of the community, considering there are
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Speaker 1: no written records of any of the deceased, Identification of
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Speaker 1: the victims will be a significant task, if they're even
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Speaker 1: able to do it at all.
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Speaker 3: Maybe not now, but hopefully in the future. I mean,
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Speaker 3: the DNA stuff that we're seeing now is crazy, like.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like just last week they were like, this is
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Speaker 1: the guy that was Jack the Ripper.
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Speaker 2: It's crazy casual. Oh hey, we found him.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, many of those uncovered have been buried face down,
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Speaker 1: were weighed down with stones, or have been buried with
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Speaker 1: coins in their mouths.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah.
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Speaker 1: Now, the practice of having coins placed in the mouth
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Speaker 1: had to do with the belief that the silver would
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Speaker 1: trap their soul in their body as well as pay
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Speaker 1: for their passage to the underworld.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, so they can use their body that
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Speaker 3: body when they go to the underworld. Have you seen
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Speaker 3: have you seen that Netflix show with Jeff Goldbloom as
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Speaker 3: SEUs chaos.
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Speaker 3: You really should they have a similar like if you
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Speaker 3: don't have the coin, you're kind of so.
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you're just trapped.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Sha, in Darius's opinion, would have to have
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Speaker 1: been especially feared to have had a sick placed about
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Speaker 1: her neck. This practice was rare, although not unheard of.
23:05
Speaker 1: The belief and fear of the undead in Eastern Europe
23:08
Speaker 1: dates back to the eleventh century, and vampire myths in
23:12
Speaker 1: particular date back to the late seventeenth and eighteenth centuries.
23:16
Speaker 1: The fear was that the undead would manage to crawl
23:19
Speaker 1: their way out of the ground and back to the
23:21
Speaker 1: surface in order to attack the living. These folk tales
23:25
Speaker 1: are very prevalent in countries like Poland and Serbia, where
23:29
Speaker 1: they are passed down from generation to generation.
23:32
Speaker 3: It really makes you wonder what started it, Like were
23:39
Speaker 3: people buried alive at the time and came out and
23:43
Speaker 3: then it just kind of became a livestale ever since,
23:48
Speaker 3: because I mean it's happened before. Yeah, it's not completely
23:52
Speaker 3: unheard of, and they didn't embalm people then, so.
23:56
Speaker 1: Well, this might have something to do with it. So
23:59
Speaker 1: in the seventh and ninth centuries, the Slavic people were
24:02
Speaker 1: starting their conversion to Christianity.
24:05
Speaker 2: Okay, what were they before pagan I believe, Okay.
24:10
Speaker 1: Prior to that, they cremated their dead, So the practice
24:14
Speaker 1: of burying their bodies was horrifying to some of them,
24:18
Speaker 1: and around the world many people believed that sharp tools
24:22
Speaker 1: forged with fire had anti demonic properties.
24:26
Speaker 2: Interesting.
24:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the idea of burying their dead versus releasing
24:31
Speaker 1: their souls via fire could have led to the belief
24:35
Speaker 1: in them rising from the grave, Like why didn't you
24:38
Speaker 1: do this, I'm supposed to be burnt to pass on?
24:43
Speaker 3: That makes sense, especially like I can I can imagine
24:47
Speaker 3: just you know, with histories shown as how awful it
24:50
Speaker 3: is trying to convert a massive group of people to
24:54
Speaker 3: a different mindset and like general lifestyle and existence.
24:59
Speaker 2: So being the first people.
25:01
Speaker 3: To bury your parents instead of burning them after generations
25:04
Speaker 3: and generations, that would be that would be scary.
25:08
Speaker 1: And as with which hysteria in the past, the beliefs
25:11
Speaker 1: in vampires became so widespread that it led to mass hysteria,
25:16
Speaker 1: even executions.
25:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're really familiar with that on this podcast.
25:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of something we cover a lot.
25:25
Speaker 2: It's kind of a yearly thing.
25:28
Speaker 1: It is a yearly thing for people who passed away
25:32
Speaker 1: in untimely ways. So think like alcoholism or completing suicide
25:37
Speaker 1: being examples. You would have immediately been suspected of being
25:41
Speaker 1: a vampire. In order to prevent their return, their corpses
25:46
Speaker 1: would have been mutilated in some fashion. For example, in
25:50
Speaker 1: the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries in the Balkans, people would
25:54
Speaker 1: nail corpses to the ground. H yeah, I don't like that.
25:59
Speaker 2: How how far do you go?
26:01
Speaker 3: Did they dig six feet back then too?
26:05
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I don't like it.
26:09
Speaker 2: I don't like it either.
26:10
Speaker 3: Could you stay right there?
26:13
Speaker 2: Full raver.
26:15
Speaker 1: More mass graves have been found since the discovery of Zosia,
26:20
Speaker 1: and even before her discovery. So in two thousand and eight,
26:24
Speaker 1: a number of decapitated skeletons were discovered at a burial
26:27
Speaker 1: site near I knew, I forgot to translate one and
26:31
Speaker 1: that damn it. I don't know Polish, I would not
26:38
Speaker 1: have said it la all right. In two thousand and eight,
26:45
Speaker 1: a number of decapitated skeletons were discovered at a burial
26:49
Speaker 1: site near glevisa with holes drilled through their legs or
26:53
Speaker 1: bricks placed in their mouths.
26:56
Speaker 3: Oh my god, wow, so that yeah, Yeah, there was
27:00
Speaker 3: a lot of intense hatred or fear or all of
27:05
Speaker 3: the above, like desperation because I can't imagine doing this
27:08
Speaker 3: to any like a body, like what. I just can't,
27:12
Speaker 3: especially if I knew them, Like.
27:16
Speaker 2: Yeah.
27:17
Speaker 1: So that same year, in two thousand and eight, in
27:19
Speaker 1: the small village of star Oripine, Privotsn, Poland, which in
27:25
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two had a population of ninety people, the
27:30
Speaker 1: Riepene Commune or cemetery was home to the graves of
27:34
Speaker 1: several quote unquote vampires.
27:37
Speaker 2: Okay.
27:38
Speaker 1: During an excavation of the late medieval cemetery, the skeleton
27:43
Speaker 1: of a man who was between forty to fifty at
27:45
Speaker 1: the time of his death would have discovered on the
27:48
Speaker 1: very fringes of the cemetery, which would have been a
27:51
Speaker 1: sort of punishment because he would have been like on
27:53
Speaker 1: the edge of consecrated ground. Right analysis revealed that he
27:58
Speaker 1: was tall over six feet and he suffered from a
28:02
Speaker 1: number of developmental anomalies, such as the crowding and distortion
28:06
Speaker 1: of his front teeth. More excavations were conducted in the
28:11
Speaker 1: same area. In twenty and nine and twenty fourteen, the
28:15
Speaker 1: remains of another man who was twenty to twenty five
28:18
Speaker 1: at the time of his death was discovered, who was
28:21
Speaker 1: very short, around one hundred and sixty centimeters in height,
28:24
Speaker 1: or just five foot three inches, which isn't really that short.
28:27
Speaker 1: But I don't know.
28:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, excuse you, that's me so like we're fine, it's average,
28:33
Speaker 3: all right, rude.
28:36
Speaker 1: Maybe they have really tall men in that area, so
28:38
Speaker 1: that was unusually.
28:40
Speaker 3: Short, like Sweden and stuff, they were taller, like Vikings
28:45
Speaker 3: were taller.
28:47
Speaker 1: I feel like they are taller people generally, so maybe that, yes,
28:51
Speaker 1: would be abnormally short in that area, but I could
28:55
Speaker 1: say to that average anyway. This man was also buried
29:00
Speaker 1: on the far perimeter of the cemetery, face down. His
29:04
Speaker 1: arms were also bent at the elbows, giving the impression
29:07
Speaker 1: that they had been tied together at the time he
29:09
Speaker 1: was buried, so tied behind his back it moved face down.
29:14
Speaker 3: Gosh them, they would have had to do this like
29:18
Speaker 3: right after death, right or.
29:20
Speaker 1: Like either that or they Yeah, I don't want to
29:22
Speaker 1: think about how they Yeah.
29:24
Speaker 3: Nope, don't want to think about it. Yep, they did
29:26
Speaker 3: it right after death.
29:28
Speaker 2: End of sentence. Yep, m hmm, yep.
29:33
Speaker 1: A fifty to sixty year old woman was buried with
29:35
Speaker 1: a cylindrical padlock by her shin. This type of padlock
29:40
Speaker 1: was really only used in the eleventh to fourteenth centuries
29:44
Speaker 1: and is very rarely found inside graves, with only a
29:47
Speaker 1: handful being discovered to date. So it was like a padlock,
29:52
Speaker 1: but it had this very like instead of being a
29:55
Speaker 1: box shape, it had this like cylinder like almost like
29:58
Speaker 1: you would put it around a finger or something thing
30:00
Speaker 1: and then lock it. It's very very unique, very interesting.
30:05
Speaker 1: I don't know why it was by her shin, but
30:07
Speaker 1: you know what.
30:08
Speaker 3: I it just makes me think like maybe they like
30:11
Speaker 3: ran out of what they normally used and like made
30:14
Speaker 3: do with like another like what it was meant to
30:18
Speaker 3: be a finger or toe thing.
30:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, potentially.
30:22
Speaker 1: Another woman who was believed to have been between twenty
30:26
Speaker 1: and thirty five at the time of her death, was
30:28
Speaker 1: found buried without her head and ah yeah. And another
30:33
Speaker 1: woman was buried with a large boulder placed on her
30:36
Speaker 1: belly so she would have been unable to get up.
30:40
Speaker 2: Yep.
30:41
Speaker 1: In twenty fourteen, the remains of six I'm gonna say
30:44
Speaker 1: this wrong. Apotropaic burials, or burials designed to ward off
30:49
Speaker 1: evil okay, were compared to the remains of sixty normal
30:55
Speaker 1: in tournaments in the same area to try to determine
30:59
Speaker 1: why certain people were being viewed as vampires but not
31:03
Speaker 1: all of them. The team conducting the research was led
31:07
Speaker 1: by Leslie Gregorica from the University of South Alabama. Her
31:12
Speaker 1: team used radiogenic strontium isotope ratios from the enamel of
31:17
Speaker 1: the teeth of the remains. They compared the biogeochemical analysis
31:24
Speaker 1: to the same isotopes of local animals in the area,
31:28
Speaker 1: so to kind of determine like if they had been
31:30
Speaker 1: eating things where they lived.
31:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like were they actually caught like there or were
31:36
Speaker 3: they placed there?
31:38
Speaker 1: Yes? And what they discovered was that those suspected of
31:43
Speaker 1: being vampires were primarily locals in the area, not outsiders.
31:48
Speaker 2: Hmmm.
31:49
Speaker 1: So like in Zosha's case, she would have been an
31:53
Speaker 1: outlier in that she was an outsider.
31:56
Speaker 3: It makes me wonder if she was like prisoner of
31:58
Speaker 3: war or something potentially since that war was happening, or if.
32:02
Speaker 1: She had like cholera or something, if she some sort
32:05
Speaker 1: of disease.
32:06
Speaker 2: And passing through and died.
32:09
Speaker 1: So what could cause suspicion to be cast upon people
32:11
Speaker 1: in the area. Some theorized that it could have something
32:15
Speaker 1: to do with disease.
32:15
Speaker 3: Pandemics super common.
32:18
Speaker 2: Then there's like at least twelve.
32:22
Speaker 1: There was a cholera outbreak, and usually the first person
32:26
Speaker 1: to pass is viewed as the cause and the possible
32:29
Speaker 1: reason behind it. If we want to look at it
32:31
Speaker 1: through with supernatural.
32:33
Speaker 2: Lens, yeap patient zero.
32:35
Speaker 1: That same year, twenty fourteen, which was a very popular
32:38
Speaker 1: year in archaeology, apparently, yeah, that's of funding, an archaeological
32:43
Speaker 1: team in Sozopol, Bulgaria, discovered a stone tomb that was
32:48
Speaker 1: home to a skeleton that was held down by an
32:51
Speaker 1: iron sickle.
32:54
Speaker 2: Kind of liked her.
32:55
Speaker 1: Each one of its teeth had been pulled out.
32:57
Speaker 3: Oh, that took time, an effort, that was a choice.
33:03
Speaker 3: Who they think that, like the vampire couldn't bite them then,
33:07
Speaker 3: so yeah, like.
33:09
Speaker 2: Can't bite me with no teeth, bitch.
33:11
Speaker 1: Well, and the sickle was over the torso instead of
33:14
Speaker 1: by the neck like it was with Zosia.
33:17
Speaker 3: Ah, so they're like, you can't run after us either,
33:21
Speaker 3: you'll cut your legs off.
33:22
Speaker 1: And typically with the use of sickles, which wasn't a
33:25
Speaker 1: common practice. They would be placed, like I said, over
33:28
Speaker 1: the torso I think with the idea being that even
33:31
Speaker 1: if they tried to escape the grave, if they were
33:34
Speaker 1: cut in half by iron, their spirit would pass on
33:38
Speaker 1: and they would no longer be a sort of revenant.
33:42
Speaker 2: Okay.
33:45
Speaker 1: And it is also in extremely rare cases that researchers
33:49
Speaker 1: have found sickles placed above the neck, so Zosha's is
33:53
Speaker 1: one of very few cases they've ever run across where that.
33:57
Speaker 2: Was the case.
34:00
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if with the work being happening around,
34:04
Speaker 3: then I wonder if it being by her neck was
34:07
Speaker 3: just because she was also potentially an enemy.
34:11
Speaker 1: Maybe, you know, because if if the common thread was
34:16
Speaker 1: that these were people that you knew that weren't being
34:20
Speaker 1: accused of being a vampire, even though you wanted to
34:23
Speaker 1: prevent them from coming out and killing you, you wouldn't
34:25
Speaker 1: be overly harsh about it. No, because they were like
34:30
Speaker 1: turning their bodies over or putting rocks on them. Although, yeah,
34:36
Speaker 1: we'll get to it. So in twenty twenty three, a
34:40
Speaker 1: mass burial site of four hundred and fifty individuals significantly
34:46
Speaker 1: larger was found by road workers outside Luzino in northeastern Poland,
34:54
Speaker 1: as they were excavating land for a road expansion that.
34:57
Speaker 3: To me just screams disease or famine.
35:01
Speaker 1: They discovered hundreds of bodies that had been buried near
35:04
Speaker 1: a church. The reason for their concern was that many
35:08
Speaker 1: of the bodies had been decapitated, with the skull placed
35:11
Speaker 1: between their legs. Some had bricks placed around their heads
35:16
Speaker 1: their head and limbs, and others had coins placed in
35:19
Speaker 1: their mouths, which we have seen in discussed prior to this.
35:24
Speaker 2: Yeah.
35:25
Speaker 1: An archaeologist that was called to examine the site named
35:28
Speaker 1: mach Stromsky noted that if it were it was believed
35:33
Speaker 1: you were a vampire, it was likely due to another
35:36
Speaker 1: member of your family suddenly dying not long after your funeral.
35:41
Speaker 1: So if you died and someone else in your immediate
35:44
Speaker 1: family passed shortly after, they thought you were the cause
35:49
Speaker 1: that you were ah.
35:51
Speaker 3: Yeap, that I was the angry spirit or the vengeance
35:54
Speaker 3: of thing.
35:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is why they would then be exhumed, have
35:59
Speaker 1: their had removed and reburied at their feet. They even
36:03
Speaker 1: discovered the corpse of one woman who had the skull
36:06
Speaker 1: of a child placed on her womb. Which is horrifying.
36:10
Speaker 2: That's really scary.
36:12
Speaker 3: That must have been a very desperate situation if they
36:16
Speaker 3: were doing that to quite literally everybody. Yeah, I'm sorry,
36:20
Speaker 3: but in a burial of that many people, when do
36:24
Speaker 3: you when do you pause and be like, hey, maybe
36:27
Speaker 3: this isn't working. Yeah, you know, like when does your
36:32
Speaker 3: fear and faith go like hmm, you know, I keep
36:36
Speaker 3: cutting these heads off and these people keep dying.
36:39
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I just leave the bodies alone and just
36:43
Speaker 2: you know, wash my hands. But what soap?
36:50
Speaker 1: Yeah. In Gora Helmsk in helm Poland, two children who
36:58
Speaker 1: received the anti vampire barrier are believed to have been
37:01
Speaker 1: buried as far back as the thirteenth century, with their
37:05
Speaker 1: remains discovered after the removal of tree roots. So it
37:08
Speaker 1: was like a pre scheduled thing where they were just
37:13
Speaker 1: removing tree roots and then all of a sudden they
37:15
Speaker 1: were like, oh.
37:17
Speaker 2: Okay, there's a body attached to this route.
37:20
Speaker 1: There are some children here.
37:23
Speaker 3: Better.
37:24
Speaker 1: The excavation, led by doctor Stany Swas Goulb, an archaeologist
37:30
Speaker 1: with the Lublin Voivodeship Conservator of Monuments, discovered that the
37:36
Speaker 1: pair were buried in an area that had not previously
37:39
Speaker 1: been associated with any known cemetery, got it, So.
37:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was definitely an outlayer field of unwanted.
37:48
Speaker 1: What makes this discovery unique is that the skull of
37:53
Speaker 1: one of the children had been intentionally removed and placed
37:57
Speaker 1: face down in the grave.
37:59
Speaker 2: Ooh, that sounds symbolic.
38:03
Speaker 1: The rest of their body had been held down by
38:05
Speaker 1: heavy stones.
38:07
Speaker 3: So I wonder if this was the first kid that
38:09
Speaker 3: got sick or something.
38:12
Speaker 1: They discovered the presence of post holes at the site,
38:15
Speaker 1: which led researchers to believe that it had been marked
38:18
Speaker 1: at one point in time and monitored to ensure that
38:21
Speaker 1: the dead did not rise from the grave.
38:25
Speaker 3: I can't even fathom living in a time where this
38:29
Speaker 3: was just common.
38:31
Speaker 1: It was just normal.
38:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, how scary.
38:35
Speaker 3: God, No wonder why everybody died like when they were
38:38
Speaker 3: like thirty two.
38:42
Speaker 1: Stress near the grave. Three more children were discovered in
38:47
Speaker 1: a pit. Analysis on the enamel of their teeth and
38:51
Speaker 1: the bones of their jaw revealed traces of copper, potassium, permanganate,
38:58
Speaker 1: and gold. It's theorized that they may have been part
39:02
Speaker 1: of a potion designed to treat and cure vampirism.
39:06
Speaker 3: Which would have killed them. Because you can't you can't
39:10
Speaker 3: process the minerals like that in your body.
39:14
Speaker 1: So, because this was five children that were all next
39:18
Speaker 1: to each other, I'm wondering if this was some sort
39:20
Speaker 1: of disease that children would be particularly susceptible to. Because
39:26
Speaker 1: it didn't say how old the bildren were either.
39:28
Speaker 3: Right, it makes me want it sounds like like kids
39:33
Speaker 3: that would play together or something all got the same
39:36
Speaker 3: illness and then were treated as such.
39:40
Speaker 2: God.
39:43
Speaker 1: Due to the number of excavations that have taken place
39:45
Speaker 1: around Eastern Europe, primarily in Poland, historians and researchers have
39:50
Speaker 1: started to theorize why certain people may have been buried
39:53
Speaker 1: the way they were. Those who completed suicide or were executed,
39:57
Speaker 1: What have their bodies treated much differently than of high
40:00
Speaker 1: moral standing?
40:02
Speaker 2: High moral standing? Sure?
40:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really wonder what constituted is high moral standing
40:07
Speaker 3: at the.
40:08
Speaker 1: Time those that were you know, died of natural causes,
40:13
Speaker 1: you know whatever, The bodies of these individuals would likely
40:17
Speaker 1: have been dragged, burned, quartered, or just tossed them to
40:21
Speaker 1: a grave or pitez. And the list is endless. Really,
40:26
Speaker 1: if you died tragically, you weren't baptized, you were a sleepwalker.
40:31
Speaker 1: If you had debt, if you had birthmarks, a disability,
40:35
Speaker 1: if you were sly or cruel, any of those reasons
40:39
Speaker 1: or more could have viewed you as a potential vampire.
40:42
Speaker 1: After death.
40:43
Speaker 2: It's tough time. It was a.
40:45
Speaker 1: Tough time to die and not have your body mutilated and.
40:51
Speaker 2: To just exist like sounds like there were lots of judgments.
40:58
Speaker 1: If you want to learn more about the words of
41:01
Speaker 1: Darius and his team and their efforts to uncover the
41:04
Speaker 1: true identity of Zosia, It's part of a documentary that
41:08
Speaker 1: was produced by Caravan Media titled Field of Vampires, which
41:13
Speaker 1: came out in October of twenty twenty four and was
41:16
Speaker 1: released as part of PBS's Secrets of the Dead series.
41:20
Speaker 2: Cool.
41:21
Speaker 1: My final thing I want to note is some words
41:23
Speaker 1: that Oscar had to say regarding Zosha's reconstruction quote. It's
41:29
Speaker 1: emotional to watch a face coming back from the dead,
41:33
Speaker 1: especially when you know the story about this young girl.
41:36
Speaker 1: It's really ironic in a way. These people burying her,
41:39
Speaker 1: they did everything they could in order to prevent her
41:42
Speaker 1: from coming back from the dead. We have done everything
41:44
Speaker 1: we can in order to bring her back to life.
41:47
Speaker 1: I'm used to reconstructing faces, but in this case. Also,
41:51
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to giving her some human dignity back.
41:54
Speaker 1: She deserved something better end quote. They all did, and
41:59
Speaker 1: that is Zosia and the various fields of vampires that
42:05
Speaker 1: you can find in poland Crazy.
42:08
Speaker 3: It's so fascinating, Like I just I just so wish
42:13
Speaker 3: that we could hurry up and advance our technology even
42:17
Speaker 3: more to learning more because like growing up as a
42:21
Speaker 3: kid in the eighties and nineties, you know, we had
42:26
Speaker 3: our fascination with this, and it's like in our favorite
42:31
Speaker 3: stories back then are like coming back now with DNA
42:35
Speaker 3: and it's so cool, Like you kind of don't want
42:38
Speaker 3: to know what you do.
42:41
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42:43
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42:46
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42:51
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Speaker 3: just kills me and eats me and goes to sleep.
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Speaker 3: It's fine, but I hope we become friends. That's very
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Speaker 3: much like the White Lady trope.
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Speaker 1: Yep, we become bad friends.
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Speaker 2: Got got got that doalk exactly?
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Speaker 1: I would do something similar. I'd be like, let's be
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Speaker 1: best friends. We're gonna go on silly misadventures together after
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Speaker 1: we get out of this cave, yep, and we'll go
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Speaker 1: take down the patriarchy. It'll be great.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, write it into the sunset and we'll you know,
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Speaker 3: climb trees and ship would be great.
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Speaker 1: Go play in the water together, scratch our backs, on bark.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, hang out with salmone.
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Speaker 1: Do some fishing. I'm gonna go Fiashan.
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Speaker 2: Yeah you could.
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Speaker 3: I mean the bear would obviously love trying smoked salmon
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Speaker 3: for the first time. You can't do that without thumbs.
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. You cannot cook salmon without thumbs. No, very difficult.
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Speaker 2: You're welcome Bear's friends. Yep.
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Speaker 3: That's how you came because before you got locked in
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Speaker 3: that cave, you had smoked salmon with you.
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Speaker 2: There you go, yep, there go.
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Speaker 1: All right, If you want to send us some questions,
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Speaker 1: you can slide into our DMS or you can email
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Speaker 1: us at your Crime podcast at gmail dot com. On
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Speaker 1: that note, what is something good you'd like to share?
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think because it's just like nothing bad
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Speaker 3: has really happened, right, But I've been like in a
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Speaker 3: sick fog for a little bit. So one of the
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Speaker 3: thing's really great at the moment. Oh, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I I started. I have a new hyper fixation snack
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Speaker 3: that I've been making.
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Speaker 2: What's that? It's uh So.
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Speaker 3: They came out with a new cereal called Oreo Puffs. Okay,
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Speaker 3: and it's like cocoa puffs but Oreo. And then they
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Speaker 3: have the marsh little marshmallows as like the cream, and
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Speaker 3: I've been making like a pseudo puppy chow with it.
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Speaker 3: I was fancy last time in brown some butter, got
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Speaker 3: some pistachio butter and peanut butter, and then I put
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Speaker 3: collagen powder in it to like pretend that I'm getting
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Speaker 3: some sort of nutrition around the snack.
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Speaker 2: Sure, sure, right, and then.
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Speaker 3: I melt like a little bit of chocolate chips, not
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Speaker 3: a lot, because I like to have the peanut butter
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Speaker 3: the nutty taste forward, and then I coat it and
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Speaker 3: then eat it whenever I'm low, so i've been. I
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Speaker 3: made some this morning and I was like, heck, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I made a fresh batch. Nice a reo puff puppy
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Speaker 3: chow kind of question mark, but yeah, I was baking
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Speaker 3: a little bit again, which was nice. It always makes
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Speaker 3: me happy being sick. I haven't done a lot of
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Speaker 3: it because I don't want to be typhoid.
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Speaker 2: Mary, So yeah, that's fair.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I kind of put that on pause for
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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks. So it's nice to start making
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Speaker 3: my own stuff again, how about you.
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Speaker 1: I am next week grateful that I will be going
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Speaker 1: on vacation. Next week. Right now, it is like stressing
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Speaker 1: me the fuck out because I have so many things
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Speaker 1: that need to get done before I leave. Like literally
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Speaker 1: literally the day before I fly out, I have to
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Speaker 1: fill my vehicle with girls Scout cookies. Have my co
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Speaker 1: leader come and take some of them from me, so
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Speaker 1: there is inventory outside of my house because cookie sales
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Speaker 1: start the day that we fly out, and I will
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Speaker 1: not be there to be dispersing cookies to our troop members, so.
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Speaker 4: Which is is a crime in Minnesota.
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Speaker 1: We're not doing on hand inventory anyway. We're focusing more
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Speaker 1: on doing booth sales. But still if people sell cookies
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Speaker 1: and they want to be able to give them the
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Speaker 1: people that they sold to, I will not be there. Thankfully,
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Speaker 1: my co leader is going to be taking inventory from me,
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Speaker 1: not all of it, but she'll be taking inventory. And
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Speaker 1: I'm like, you need to come to me because there's
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Speaker 1: gonna be too many moving pieces in play for me
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Speaker 1: to be able to drive to you and back, and
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Speaker 1: all the other things that need to be taken care.
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Speaker 3: Of, so like making sure all your work stuff is
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Speaker 3: good before you go, making sure your kids school stuff
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Speaker 3: is good before you go.
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Speaker 2: Packing for everybody.
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Speaker 1: Animal one of our friends, their daughters are going to
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Speaker 1: be checking in on the critters while we're gone.
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Speaker 2: Definitely appreciate it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Lindsay had asked me to do it, but and
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Speaker 4: I said yes initially, but one of her baby critters
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Speaker 4: needs worms, and I can't.
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Speaker 2: I can't do it. I just can't do it.
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Speaker 3: I would be I just have a feeling I would
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Speaker 3: like throw them at her, and that's just not fair, like,
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Speaker 3: you know, like I just be like, and she has
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Speaker 3: a bunch of like worms.
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Speaker 2: She deserves better than my anxiety.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and I recognized that probably that would probably
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Speaker 1: be the case if she hadn't woken up from rumation.
50:43
Speaker 1: It would have been fine because all you would have
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Speaker 1: had to do is just put.
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Speaker 2: Water in her dish for the the ecosystem.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but now that she is awake, it's like she
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Speaker 1: needs food. She could probably last a week without eating.
50:57
Speaker 1: But that's not fair how she's been brummating. She doesn't
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Speaker 1: have a whole lot of excess weight to lose, so
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Speaker 1: she needs to eat. So it'll all be fine. I'm
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Speaker 1: not too concerned about it. There are a lot of
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Speaker 1: things I've already taken care of, like holding mail and
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Speaker 1: all that fun stuff. So it's just there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of other things that need to be taken care of
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Speaker 1: that I'm just like, but as soon as we're on
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Speaker 1: the plane, it won't matter anymore and it'll be fine.
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Speaker 2: No, it'll be fine. It is what it is.
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Speaker 3: You did what you could and now, oh no, all
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Speaker 3: you have to do is exist in a nicer place.
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Speaker 3: I hope if you plan on doing nothing, it is
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Speaker 3: the most empty headed, lovely thing ever.
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Speaker 2: I hope. If you're wanting lots.
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Speaker 3: Of adventure, it's the most adventurous time ever.
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Speaker 2: I hope it's whatever you're needing, because you definitely deserve
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Speaker 2: a week long vacation.
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Speaker 1: Thanks. Should we shut her down?
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Speaker 2: Let's shut her down, all right?
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Speaker 3: Speaking of YouTube, we have a special playlist just for
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Speaker 3: of some obscure Victorian slang terms. If that's your thing.
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Speaker 1: Check it out. And on that note, as always, I'm
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Speaker 1: Lindsay
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Speaker 2: And I'm Madison and we'll see you next time with
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