Latest / Becker’s Payer Issues Podcast / Gary Rosenfield, Director, Medicaid Product & Strategy, United Concordia Dental
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- 0:48Hello, and welcome to the Becker's Healthcare podcast.
- 0:50I'm joined today by Gary Rosenfield, director of
- 0:53Medicaid product and strategy at United Concordia Dental.
- 0:56Gary, can you start off by telling us
- 0:57a little bit about yourself and your background?
- 1:00Sure. I am, as you said, the director
- 1:03of Medicaid product and strategy at United Concordia
- 1:06Dental.
- 1:07We are the wholly owned subsidiary dental plan
- 1:10under the umbrella of Highmark Health.
- 1:13I joined in
- 1:15January of this year after spending a lot
- 1:17of my career on the Medicaid managed care
- 1:20side
- 1:20of the of the business.
- 1:23So I ran the Medicaid line of business
- 1:25in a couple health plans in New York,
- 1:27ran
- 1:28Medicaid strategy for a number of years at
- 1:30a large health plan on the West Coast.
- 1:32And I was excited to join United Concordia
- 1:35because in my
- 1:37experience on the managed care side,
- 1:39dental is a
- 1:41a huge
- 1:42challenge
- 1:43for the Medicaid population,
- 1:45and I believe United Concordia Dental is positioned
- 1:48well to, address those challenges. So I'm tasked
- 1:52with,
- 1:53really growing our
- 1:55Medicaid footprint beyond our, you know, beyond Highmark
- 1:59Health, which is where we currently serve Medicaid
- 2:01in 3 states.
- 2:02From improving member experience and expanding value based
- 2:05care to controlling costs, You know, payer executives
- 2:07have ambitious growth goals for the rest of
- 2:09the year and into next year. In your
- 2:11role, what would you say is your top
- 2:13priority right now, and how are you planning
- 2:14to get there?
- 2:16So
- 2:18the top priority I mean, there there's there
- 2:21are several top
- 2:23priorities. I would say
- 2:252 of them that are are
- 2:28probably equal is 1.
- 2:31Access to care is a is a challenge,
- 2:33especially for the Medicaid population.
- 2:36So what yeah. One of the things that
- 2:38we're looking at is
- 2:40we have the
- 2:42largest provider network. United Concordia, which I didn't
- 2:45mention before,
- 2:46has the TRICARE
- 2:48contract. So we have the military contract. So
- 2:50we have a network provider. If there's a
- 2:53post office, we have a network provider.
- 2:55So
- 2:56how do we
- 2:58leverage
- 2:59that network
- 3:01in a way that
- 3:02expands
- 3:03access.
- 3:04But with the challenges,
- 3:06within the current providers who take Medicaid,
- 3:09one of the, like, kind of priorities is
- 3:11how do we expand the capacity for those
- 3:13existing
- 3:14providers? So that's one. The other is
- 3:17more you know, this this is like a
- 3:19team effort.
- 3:21The head has,
- 3:23for an inexplicable
- 3:25reason, been separated from the body when it
- 3:27comes to regulations
- 3:28and funding.
- 3:30We need to really work on advocating
- 3:33to get the
- 3:35proper attention to make oral health
- 3:37really part of the conversation so that there's
- 3:40the appropriate funding to to really
- 3:43make that connection between the oral and systemic
- 3:46health link.
- 3:48At an industry level, what would you say
- 3:50are the biggest barriers to effectively serving and
- 3:53engaging members?
- 3:54You know, what opportunities do you see for
- 3:56large scale improvements in this area, and how
- 3:58are you currently applying these strategies?
- 4:01Yeah. So, you know, great question. You know,
- 4:04in the in the dental space and, again,
- 4:06with Medicaid,
- 4:08I I could cite, you know,
- 4:10some statistics,
- 4:12like 93%
- 4:13of
- 4:14people in poverty
- 4:16have not used dental services.
- 4:19People of color are 3 times more likely
- 4:22to have never seen a dentist, and they're
- 4:23also 3 times more likely to go to
- 4:25the emergency department when they have an oral
- 4:28health care issue.
- 4:30So one of the biggest
- 4:32barriers
- 4:33to engaging members is
- 4:35we need to
- 4:37really figure out or really
- 4:41get to the community level. You know, much
- 4:43like community health workers, we at United Concordia
- 4:47have a team of government relations liaisons who
- 4:51actually go out in the communities,
- 4:53where the military bases are, and they educate
- 4:56the active duty military members and their families,
- 4:59help get them connected to providers that are
- 5:01in their neighborhood or area
- 5:04with with the intent to make sure that
- 5:06the active duty military member is fit for
- 5:08deployment.
- 5:09We could take that same model and have
- 5:11the the boots on the ground that kind
- 5:13of address
- 5:15the
- 5:16kind of trust barriers that we find with
- 5:19those populations,
- 5:20help get them connected to social
- 5:23services that may be impediments,
- 5:25help get them connected to to providers,
- 5:28really put some programs in there that drives
- 5:32not only engagement, but actually
- 5:34access,
- 5:35adaptability,
- 5:36or adoption
- 5:37of of the care.
- 5:39And so so we're looking at that as
- 5:41far as like large scale improvements.
- 5:44It's it it is a team
- 5:47effort and Medicaid
- 5:50as as the saying goes, you've seen one
- 5:51Medicaid member, you've seen one Medicaid member. It
- 5:54is really community driven. So how can we
- 5:58leverage
- 5:59some of the, you know, the technology
- 6:01tools that we have
- 6:02to remove some of the,
- 6:05barriers
- 6:06of getting providers in the network. Right? So
- 6:08administrative
- 6:09kind of burdens that are placed on them.
- 6:11How can we
- 6:12get creative with value based contracting
- 6:15with the providers who are in our network
- 6:17so that they're more open to enrolling in
- 6:20Medicaid and taking those those members? Mhmm. Things
- 6:23like that.
- 6:24So keeping up with, today's rapidly evolving health
- 6:28care landscape is is challenging.
- 6:30What's one piece of advice you'd like to
- 6:33share with other leaders in your space to
- 6:35help grow their businesses while keeping members top
- 6:37of mind?
- 6:38That that is a really good question. I
- 6:40I would say the the first piece of
- 6:42advice is
- 6:44patience. This is it's not a sprint. It's
- 6:47a marathon. It's a complicated
- 6:49population like Medicaid. So really kind of understanding
- 6:52that it is
- 6:53local, you know, community driven.
- 6:56Also,
- 6:58don't get caught in the trap of trying
- 6:59to boil the ocean, which is often a
- 7:02lot of leaders wanna just fix everything.
- 7:05Really start on a
- 7:08a kind
- 7:09of a a deliberate
- 7:11kind of more focused approach
- 7:14to solving
- 7:15or addressing
- 7:17challenges that that they're facing. All that being
- 7:20said, that does keep the members in mind
- 7:22It because
- 7:24if you're understanding
- 7:26the challenges of the local communities
- 7:28and then putting programs in place to address
- 7:30those challenges, you will start seeing
- 7:33outcomes, drive delivering a better member experience,
- 7:36and all the things that are related to
- 7:38that.
- 7:39So we we talked about the rapidly changing
- 7:42health care landscape.
- 7:44It's also ever evolving from a regulatory environment
- 7:47as well. What are some of the tools
- 7:49and strategies that have helped your organization improve
- 7:51quality and clinical outcomes
- 7:53while staying,
- 7:55compliant?
- 7:56So very good question. So we we are
- 7:58a heavily regulated industry. It especially with Medicaid,
- 8:02you you have to be in compliance. Right?
- 8:03So the contract is scrutinized,
- 8:06the reporting,
- 8:07everything that we do for the members, how
- 8:09we engage them, you know, the marketing,
- 8:12the messaging, all has to be approved.
- 8:15And and to your point, it is an
- 8:16evolving
- 8:17regulatory environment and, you know, given
- 8:21what happened
- 8:22with the election, not to bring that in,
- 8:24but
- 8:25Medicaid is going to be in the crosshairs
- 8:27of massive changes at the federal level, most
- 8:30likely. So we have to start thinking about
- 8:32that. But in terms of of, you know,
- 8:35being able to improve the quality and clinical
- 8:39outcomes
- 8:40while staying compliant,
- 8:43we at United Concordia Dental, and and and
- 8:45this this kind of is one of the
- 8:47advantages of having Highmark Health, which is an
- 8:50MCO as our parent company,
- 8:52have are you know, we take a total
- 8:54health approach.
- 8:56So we are, yeah, like, really
- 8:59deliberate
- 9:00about driving better health overall health outcomes. So
- 9:03we do that by
- 9:05making that, like, medical, dental integration. So kind
- 9:07of connecting the oral systemic health link.
- 9:10You know,
- 9:1260 chronic conditions, including, like, diabetes
- 9:15and and heart disease.
- 9:16Those are all things that could actually be
- 9:19diagnosed
- 9:20or or mitigated if you get your oral
- 9:22health care. There's a link between oral health
- 9:24and and those chronic conditions.
- 9:27There are other like like, with prenatal
- 9:30care,
- 9:30there are connections to if you get the
- 9:34moms in for
- 9:37a teeth cleaning
- 9:39during pregnancy,
- 9:40it actually
- 9:41reduces
- 9:42the risk
- 9:44of
- 9:45preterm births and low birth weight. Those are
- 9:48all things that that we're doing. So we've
- 9:50we've created, like, a dental medical insights platform
- 9:53Mhmm. That allows us to kind of take
- 9:56the data and and
- 9:58gain some
- 10:00actionable insights
- 10:01that allow us to take action to improve
- 10:05quality
- 10:07in terms of, you know, managing diabetes
- 10:10or
- 10:11improving
- 10:12quality for maternal health.
- 10:16So a little bit ago, you talked about
- 10:18some of the
- 10:19disparities in the dental space in your communities.
- 10:22What are some of the things your organization
- 10:25is doing to address these? And, you know,
- 10:27do you have any measurable examples of success?
- 10:31So that that is a great question. You
- 10:34know, measurable, you know, we're, you know, still
- 10:36kinda sifting through that. Mhmm. But some of
- 10:39the things that that we're doing, like I
- 10:41mentioned, kind of, using our kind of government
- 10:45relations liaisons or GRL model,
- 10:48you know, we could call them community dental
- 10:50advocates, like, use that model
- 10:53or the Medicaid population
- 10:55to really get into the communities
- 10:57to
- 10:58address the diverse needs, you know, one community
- 11:01at a time. So we could, you know,
- 11:03look at rural areas or certain ZIP codes
- 11:05where there are some challenges and kind of
- 11:08develop a framework or a model where we
- 11:10actually have
- 11:12boots on the ground, people from the community
- 11:14who could build that trust and address some
- 11:16of those inequities and disparities that are out
- 11:19there.
- 11:20We also
- 11:21have
- 11:23kind of recognized or identified, you know, some
- 11:25of the, you know, prior auth
- 11:29challenges, like prior authorizations.
- 11:31So, you know, for example, like with diabetes,
- 11:34like,
- 11:35removing the
- 11:37prior auth need so that someone with diabetes
- 11:40could get, like, an extra cleaning, get an
- 11:42extra exam.
- 11:44You know? So kind of working with with
- 11:45those populations
- 11:47on a on a disease level. We also
- 11:50are you know, use benefit limits exceptions. So
- 11:55a lot of states with Medicaid, they have
- 11:58for the adult population, they have, you know,
- 12:00strict limits on
- 12:02how much is paid in dental.
- 12:04There are certain kind of
- 12:06procedures, again, with the chronic conditions
- 12:09that we make exceptions
- 12:12and and because it's the right thing to
- 12:14do from a health standpoint.
- 12:16So those things
- 12:17are delivering,
- 12:19you know, better outcomes.
- 12:21And, again, it's like one community at a
- 12:22time. Mhmm. Mhmm.
- 12:24Well, Gary, I really appreciate you sharing your
- 12:26insights today. But before I let you go,
- 12:28do you have any final thoughts you'd like
- 12:29to leave with our listeners?
- 12:31So final thought is and I I say
- 12:35this to everyone. I said at the beginning.
- 12:37It's real we we need to make
- 12:40the head part of the body, and we
- 12:41need everyone out there,
- 12:43especially on the payer side,
- 12:46recognizing
- 12:47that oral health is part of physical health.
- 12:50It is part of the body. Mhmm. And
- 12:53and really
- 12:55get, you know, take take some focus and
- 12:58and really, you know, lean into
- 13:01addressing
- 13:02oral health care needs as part of total
- 13:04health. Well, Gary, thank you again for joining
- 13:06us today on the Beckers Health Care Podcast,
- 13:08and I hope you have a lovely rest
- 13:09of your day. Alright. Thank you so much.
- 13:11Bye bye.