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Full Show Podcast: 21 January 2026 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on
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Speaker 1: earlier this show where it's one Root Love, where you Live,
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Speaker 2: Yes, good morning to you, Welcome to the day. It's wet.
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Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, the twenty first of January. On the program today,
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Speaker 2: Thatch your building is not building anymore, so we're going
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Speaker 2: to look at its sale to a French company.
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Speaker 3: Next.
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Speaker 2: How hard is it to kick a gambling habit? And
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Speaker 2: is it harder than kicking drugs and alcohol? That story
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Speaker 2: in ten and the inquiry into Tom Phillips and has
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Speaker 2: four years in the bush with his children starts today.
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Speaker 2: What are they trying to find? We'll have Gavin Gray
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Speaker 2: from the UK as Prince Harry goes to court. We'll
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Speaker 2: have correspondence right around New Zealand News as it breaks
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Speaker 2: and you can have your say by giving me a text.
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Speaker 2: The number is ninety two ninety two. Small charge applies.
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Speaker 1: The agenda.
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Speaker 2: It's seven minutes after five on Wednesday the twenty first.
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Speaker 2: We start in Davos where world leaders are beginning to
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Speaker 2: arrive to the World Economic Forum and French President Emmanuel
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Speaker 2: mccron has been speaking.
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Speaker 4: Competition from the United States from America for trade agreements
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Speaker 4: at the undermine or exports interests, demand maximum concessions, and
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Speaker 4: openly aim to weaken and subordinate Europe, combined with an
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Speaker 4: endless accumulation of neutaries set out fundamentally unacceptable.
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Speaker 2: All sorts of people are there, including the Governor of California,
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Speaker 2: Kevin Newson, and he's been speaking and he's got quite
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Speaker 2: a different time.
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Speaker 5: I can't take this complicity people rolling over. I should
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Speaker 5: have brought up a bunch of knee pads for all
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Speaker 5: the world leaders. I mean, it's just the thak. The
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Speaker 5: Europeans should decide for themselves what to do. But one
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Speaker 5: thing they can't do is what they've been doing. And
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Speaker 5: they've been played, playing folks for fools. Wake up, Where
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Speaker 5: the hell has everybody been? Stop with this diplomacy?
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Speaker 2: Whoa Okay? Meanwhile, the President of the United States says,
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Speaker 2: I'm not backing down. Well, I don't think they're pushed
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Speaker 2: back too much.
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Speaker 1: We have to have it.
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Speaker 2: They have to have this done.
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Speaker 3: They can't protect it.
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Speaker 6: Denmark.
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Speaker 7: They're wonderful people, and I know the leaders are very
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Speaker 7: good people, but they don't even go there. And you know,
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Speaker 7: because the boat when they're five hundred years ago and
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Speaker 7: dead love? That does he give you titled their property?
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Speaker 2: And guess who else is that? Davos, Sir David Beckham,
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Speaker 2: why no one knows. Of course, he's a family dramma
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Speaker 2: playing up back home. His eldest son, Brooklyn, is accusing
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Speaker 2: his parents of attacking him in the press. He says
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Speaker 2: he wants no reconciliation. Beckham. His response short and sweet.
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Speaker 8: They make mistakes. Children are allowed to make mistakes. That's
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Speaker 8: how they learn. So that's what I tried to teach
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Speaker 8: my kids. But you know you have to sometimes let
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Speaker 8: them make those mistakes as well.
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Speaker 2: Good one, and I thank you. And it's nine minutes
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Speaker 2: after five.
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Speaker 1: Views and views you trust to start your day. It's
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Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof love, where
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Speaker 1: you live, news talks.
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Speaker 2: It'd be so the weather, there's going to be the
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Speaker 2: news today and where I am it's been persistent all
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Speaker 2: night on top of saturated ground. So that's not good.
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Speaker 2: Pack your grab bag and be prepared and will keep
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Speaker 2: you up to date. Greenland. Now, it should be becoming
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Speaker 2: obvious to all that America wants to go it alone
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Speaker 2: in the world ever since his first term, the President
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Speaker 2: has said he feels that Europe gets a free ride.
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Speaker 2: He's keen to be rid of them. Now with his
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Speaker 2: moves on Greenland and the annexation of Venezuela, the country
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Speaker 2: is also abandoning the international rules base order. The President
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Speaker 2: wants Greenland so he can defend against Russian and Chinese
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Speaker 2: aggression in the Arctic Ocean. This is a region that's
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Speaker 2: becoming more accessible because the ice caps are melting. But
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Speaker 2: the fact is he's already got green Land for defense
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Speaker 2: due to an agreement thrashed out by Truman back in
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Speaker 2: nineteen fifty one. In fact, there are sixteen disused US
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Speaker 2: military bases on Greenland, sixteen disused one. They were shuttered
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Speaker 2: because Washington thought the era of strategic competition for the
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Speaker 2: Arctic ended when the Soviet Union collapsed, and they didn't
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Speaker 2: want to pay for frozen bases. Now these are bases
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Speaker 2: that could be reactivated for a couple of billion dollars,
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Speaker 2: and that is a lot less than buying Greenland. Not
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Speaker 2: only that, he could ask NATO to contribute to their rehabilitation,
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Speaker 2: but the President doesn't want to do that. He wants
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Speaker 2: to go it alone. But you know you dismiss your
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Speaker 2: allies in NATO at your own peril. So I did
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Speaker 2: some research. America has two point one million in the
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Speaker 2: armed forces, one point three million on active duty. NATO
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Speaker 2: Europe has two point two million active troops.
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Speaker 1: That's more.
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Speaker 2: They spent three hundred and forty three billion dollars euro
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. That was a nineteen percent increase.
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Speaker 2: It's still going up. They're almost at two percent. Europe
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Speaker 2: is not an insubstantial force. It's as big as America.
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Speaker 2: But there are thirty people in NATO Europe. So to
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Speaker 2: quote the dwarf in Lord of the Rings, it would
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Speaker 2: be a pity to lose them because they're quite handy,
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Speaker 2: said Fletcher. Excuse me, Letcher Building is no longer building,
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Speaker 2: and this is quite a shock because they're one of
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Speaker 2: our oldest companies and they've been building forever, built so
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Speaker 2: much great stuff. So why did they do it? And
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Speaker 2: is that the good thing?
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about this next, the news you need this
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Speaker 1: morning and the in depth analysis early edition with Andrew
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Speaker 1: Dickets and one Roote Love where you Live news talks.
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Speaker 2: That'd be so it's fourteen out to five in just
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Speaker 2: like that, Fletcher building sold its construction arm for at
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Speaker 2: least three hundred and fifteen million dollars to a French
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Speaker 2: multinational by the name of Vance Vanci Construction. The Overseas
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Speaker 2: Investment Office and Commerce Commission will have to approve the deal.
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Speaker 2: But what does this mean for the company. One of
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Speaker 2: our oldest John Tukey, is a professor of construction management
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Speaker 2: at aut enjoins me. Now, good morning to you.
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Speaker 9: John.
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Speaker 2: Good morning, sad day for an old company.
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Speaker 3: But was it the right move, well logical sell off
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Speaker 3: the most profit or one of the big high ticket
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Speaker 3: items of your family silver to raise the revenue, which
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Speaker 3: is fine. The question is going to be whether or
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Speaker 3: not the removal of the construction army is going to
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Speaker 3: significantly negatively affect the profitability and indeed the sales of
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Speaker 3: the building product side of things, because obviously, when you're
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Speaker 3: not reliant on one side of the business generating business
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Speaker 3: and the other side of the business, it becomes harder that.
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Speaker 2: Your building badly run or was it just unlucky.
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Speaker 3: Combination of circumstances. There were some very questionable decisions that
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Speaker 3: were made, if anybody thinks of that. Back to the
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Speaker 3: point where Fletcher's CEO announced that he was getting rid of.
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Speaker 3: The quote old farts back in the day was a
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Speaker 3: great thing you can look of online. You know, these
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Speaker 3: were the risk managers of the business at the same
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Speaker 3: time as he was taking on board more risk by
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Speaker 3: expanding the book. So you know, yeah, you have to
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Speaker 3: ask whether or not that was a particularly transport move,
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Speaker 3: but it's a yeah. It's been a combination of circumstances. Obviously,
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Speaker 3: you had the big fire at the convention center, and
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Speaker 3: you had COVID and all the other things, which yeah,
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Speaker 3: generated a basically the perfect storm of circumstance.
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Speaker 2: Is this going to significantly shrink the company and its
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Speaker 2: influence on the inside X and the economy.
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Speaker 3: It will significantly shrink the company. It will make the
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Speaker 3: company much more profitable because construction operations are not particularly profitable.
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Speaker 3: Part they generate a lot of cash flow, but they
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Speaker 3: don't generate massive amounts of profitability per se. That having
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Speaker 3: been said, there is a there is a you know,
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Speaker 3: some of the long term infrastructural type of stuff that
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Speaker 3: fletch construction we're dealing with, generates a lot of business,
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Speaker 3: generate a lot of positive revenue when they were when
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Speaker 3: they were run optimally, they most certainly generated a lot
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Speaker 3: of profits over the years. It's just a great shame
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Speaker 3: to see iconic brand for New Zealand as a whole
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Speaker 3: lose one of its principal issues, you know, every and.
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Speaker 2: I guess, I guess it only make money if they
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Speaker 2: can sell the materials to the new constructor, which is
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Speaker 2: now called Vancy. And so what do we know about
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Speaker 2: Vancy from France, a.
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Speaker 3: Big successful organization. It is tempting to say that they're
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Speaker 3: likely to want to molt the asset more than anything else.
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Speaker 3: You know. On the upside, they could be potentially bringing
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Speaker 3: some technologies, techniques, personnel capabilities that have been lacking historically.
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Speaker 3: I tend not to think that there's going to be
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Speaker 3: a major increase in profitability capability, let's put it that way.
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Speaker 3: But the downside, as I say, you know, just from
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Speaker 3: national prestige point of view, and the fact that you know,
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Speaker 3: the government's always had a contractor of first resort to
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Speaker 3: go to to be able to generate stuff and keep
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Speaker 3: the money in house to a certain degree. So yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's just not a happy space, no.
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Speaker 2: John Tukey from the aut and I thank you for
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Speaker 2: your time. And speaking of the aut they're doing a
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Speaker 2: new study into how hard it is to kick a
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Speaker 2: gambling habit? So how hard is it to kick a
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Speaker 2: gambling habit? We'll talk about this next with Bridget Thornlee.
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Speaker 1: First word on the News of the Day Early edition
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Speaker 2: It is now five twenty a new study is having
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Speaker 2: to highlight just how hard it is to kick gambling.
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Speaker 2: The researchers from the aut shows a quarter of risky
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Speaker 2: gamblers who try and cut back on their habit end
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Speaker 2: up relapsing, and three out of four of those affected
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Speaker 2: by our loved ones gambling end up taking financial losses
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Speaker 2: as a result. Someone who knows all about this is
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Speaker 2: Bridget Thornlee, who's from the Problem Gambling Foundation and joins me, Now,
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Speaker 2: how Bridget, so how I how to be lovely? So
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Speaker 2: how hard is it to kick a gambling habit?
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Speaker 10: Well, it can be hard, but also with a bit
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Speaker 10: of supporter can be quite simple as well. We have
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Speaker 10: a great tool around self exclusion which which is part
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Speaker 10: of the Gambling Act in New Zealand, which does allow
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Speaker 10: people to ban themselves from venues that sort of thing,
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Speaker 10: and that can be great for people in it. And yeah,
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Speaker 10: so it's about putting some concrete plans in place for
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Speaker 10: people so that they can, you know, quickly make a
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Speaker 10: change in their life.
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Speaker 2: Has it become harder and harder to kick a gambling
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Speaker 2: habit because the gambling's come into your homes. We've seen
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Speaker 2: rises in online sports betting and casual betting sites around
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Speaker 2: the place, like Polymarket. You don't have to go into
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Speaker 2: a tab or a casino. You can sit at home
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Speaker 2: and waste your money just like that. Is this making
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Speaker 2: gambling a bigger problem these days?
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Speaker 10: I think so, and a younger problem. We're seeing more
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Speaker 10: and more young people presenting to our service seeking help.
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Speaker 10: It's great that they come in early. Yeah, so in
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Speaker 10: the past, you know, it might have been older people
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Speaker 10: that might have been gambling for ten or fifteen years
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Speaker 10: before they come and see us. Now we're seeing them
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Speaker 10: a bit earlier, but they're definitely been introduced to gambling.
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Speaker 10: Very young people on even children's apps for games are
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Speaker 10: getting introduced to gambling, and it's being normalized in a
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Speaker 10: way that people, you know, think gambling is just part
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Speaker 10: of the fun. Yeah, so we are seeing an increase
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Speaker 10: in online gambling.
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Speaker 2: Can you say this, bridget None of this is news
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Speaker 2: to me. We've been saying this for years and we
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Speaker 2: always talk about the problem, but we never solve the problem.
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Speaker 2: So what are we doing wrong?
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Speaker 10: I think we are solving some of the problem, but
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Speaker 10: we need more regulation. These products aren't you know, just
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Speaker 10: your ordinary product that you can go and have a
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Speaker 10: bit of fun on. They're actually quite highly addictive things
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Speaker 10: like poking machines. You know, most people don't even go
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Speaker 10: near them. It's only about fifteen percent of the population
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Speaker 10: that would have a go on Pokey's. But of those
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Speaker 10: that play gamble on them, it's fifty percent of them
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Speaker 10: experience harm. So they're really highly addictive products. And as
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Speaker 10: you said before, the ones that we're seeing online are
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Speaker 10: the marketing is quite predatory. You can you've probably seen
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Speaker 10: ads for you know, putting your money in now and
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Speaker 10: they'll double what you've put in that sort of thing.
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Speaker 10: So those incentivizations we need to remove those that ability.
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Speaker 10: We need to remove gambling advertising from being in front
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Speaker 10: of our children and young people.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of work to do get into it.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, bridget throwing me from the Problem
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Speaker 2: Gambling Foundation. I bet I bet you could give up
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Speaker 2: gambling if you really just put your mind to it.
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Speaker 2: I bet you could want to take that bet. It's
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Speaker 2: Av bets that the research and the gambling will be
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Speaker 2: just another dust gatherer. Thank you so much, Graham, Newstalks,
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Speaker 2: b five twenty six. So it might be today that
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Speaker 2: the government announces the date of the election. So some
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Speaker 2: of cour for an early election. They argue that the
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Speaker 2: job to fix us up needs more time. The government
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Speaker 2: could then argue they're the ones to do it. They
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Speaker 2: could ask for a mandate for another three years to
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Speaker 2: finish the job, and the sooner we get on with it,
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Speaker 2: the better. Now, look, I can see that point of view,
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Speaker 2: but I don't agree with it. In fact, I think
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Speaker 2: it's wishful thinking. Howthough, let's ground this in reality. We've
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Speaker 2: been through a tough two years. Governments always get the
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Speaker 2: blame for the tough years. So the government is currently
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Speaker 2: at a low ebb in their popularity. But as we're
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Speaker 2: starting to hear, there are good signs in the economy,
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Speaker 2: not just here but everywhere, geopolitical events notwithstanding, So why
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Speaker 2: not wait until the green shoots actually turn into a
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Speaker 2: proper crop. It's too soon, is it not? And with
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Speaker 2: Christopher Luxen's State of the Nation's speech being portrayed as
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Speaker 2: a yawn fest with little new vision, there's no silver
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Speaker 2: bullet in the chamber, but excite the electorate. So why
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Speaker 2: call an early election? My picking, everybody's pick is still
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Speaker 2: nearly November, early November, and that will mean every party
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Speaker 2: over the next year are going to be looking at
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Speaker 2: the economic indicators with extra trepidation. And you know, you
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Speaker 2: know what, Labor's just sitting there trying to hide their policies,
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Speaker 2: hoping that economic dissatisfaction busts, while Nashville is sitting there
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Speaker 2: with all their fingers crossed and their toes crossed, hoping
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Speaker 2: the economy turns the corner and finally blows some favor
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Speaker 2: on their campaign.
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Speaker 1: News talks 'ed be all right?
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Speaker 2: So Davos is happening. Everybody's there, even David Beckham. What
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Speaker 2: a surprise. And earlier we heard some blunt comments from
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Speaker 2: California Governor Gavin Newsom at the World Economic Forum. He
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Speaker 2: was he was really kicking some butt.
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Speaker 11: It's time to get serious and stop being complicity. It's
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Speaker 11: time to stand tall, firm, have a backbone. Just I
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Speaker 11: can't take this complicity people rolling.
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Speaker 5: I should have brought up a bunch of knee pads
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Speaker 5: for all the world leaders.
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Speaker 2: Fantastic. Why are they rolling over? They've got a big army,
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Speaker 2: they just haven't had the political will. Meanwhile, we've heard
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Speaker 2: from Canada's Prime ministep Mark Carney.
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Speaker 9: There is a strong tendency for countries to go along,
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Speaker 9: to get along, to accommodate, to avoid trouble, to hope
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Speaker 9: that compliance will buy his safety.
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Speaker 2: Karnie's an impressive man. I have to say. He says
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Speaker 2: great powers can go it alone, so live with it.
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Speaker 2: He's sitting there at the moment speaking against tariffs on
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Speaker 2: the States. I don't think he's got kneepads on and
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Speaker 2: bending down to the force that is the United States
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Speaker 2: of America at the moment, who are bullying. He seems
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Speaker 2: to be the only grown up in the room. And
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Speaker 2: have you heard about his trillion dollar Chinese deal that
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Speaker 2: he signed on the weekend. I wanted to talk about
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Speaker 2: this yesterday. I think it's a piece of genius, so
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Speaker 2: I might get the chance to talk about it a
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Speaker 2: bit later on. But Mark Carney, former the governor of
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Speaker 2: the Bank of Canada and Bank of England, knows how
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Speaker 2: the world works, and he's done some deals and he's
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Speaker 2: on fire. So I'll talk about this a little bit
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Speaker 2: later on. Also still to come, Tom Phillips and his
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Speaker 2: four kids in the bush. How did he do it?
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Speaker 2: There's an inquiry going into this and it starts today
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Speaker 2: and we'll look at this before six here on News Talks.
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Speaker 2: Eb excuse me, I still have a minute, okay, So
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Speaker 2: I'm also going to talk to you about the great
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Speaker 2: little piece of tech I saw on the news yesterday
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Speaker 2: as we hunt the hornet, the hornet that's hunting our
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Speaker 2: honey bees and our native insects and fruit industries. I mean,
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Speaker 2: how do he hunt a hornet? By security in New
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Speaker 2: zealand's been told to hunt the hornet and they've got
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Speaker 2: a really genius idea and they did it. And I'll
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Speaker 2: tell you more about that before long. And also Gavin
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Speaker 2: Gray in the UK, we we'll talk about Prince Harry,
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Speaker 2: who's in court, and the thing that came out of
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Speaker 2: Prince Harry's court session yesterday was all his mates. We've
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Speaker 2: got something to the press all the time. Forget bugging
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Speaker 2: its phones. Your best mates are also your enemies, Harry.
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Speaker 2: But Gavin Gray will have more to say that only
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Speaker 2: on the udition.
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Speaker 12: Leby Just a little Believe Street, Call you Grease? Did
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Speaker 12: you buy di?
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Speaker 1: Wh Are you still live?
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Speaker 12: Let me just a little more.
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Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Andrew
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Speaker 1: Dickens and one roof Love Where you live used talks
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Speaker 2: You're welcome to the program. A wet nights, saturated ground.
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Speaker 2: More details coming up about where we're at with the weather.
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Speaker 2: While the US is invading Greenland, we're worried about hornets
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Speaker 2: invading Auckland. And I was watching the news lats and
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Speaker 2: I love it when I see a piece of tech
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Speaker 2: that really works. So Biosecurity in New Zealand is the
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Speaker 2: ones in charge of actually getting rid of the hornets.
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Speaker 2: So they've got to find the hornets. They're going to
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Speaker 2: track them, they're going to find the nests. So they've
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Speaker 2: got these tiny weeny it's bitsy radio transmitters under one
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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty milligram milligrams, which have brought them from
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Speaker 2: the Netherlands. So what they do is they set up
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Speaker 2: a feeding station and it tracks a worker hornet and
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Speaker 2: work a hornet comes in and goes we have free
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Speaker 2: feed awesome. And then they to stop them and then
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Speaker 2: they get these it's bitsy teeny weeny tiny little radio
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Speaker 2: transmitters and glue them to their back and then they
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Speaker 2: let the hornet go and there's a handheld radio receiver
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Speaker 2: that then picks up the signal as the hornet flies home.
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Speaker 2: And there's some biosecurity people who are running after the
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Speaker 2: hornet and they find the nests and apparently this tiny
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Speaker 2: radio transmitter has already found queens hundreds of workers and
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Speaker 2: three nests in Auckland today. It's amazing, absolutely amazing. This
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Speaker 2: hornet is, as I said before, to honeybees and native
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Speaker 2: insects and the fruit industries. So you've got to find
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Speaker 2: a mess quick. And here they are radio tracking with
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Speaker 2: itsy bitsy teeny weeny little weed radio transmitters. I love it.
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Speaker 2: It is twenty two to.
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Speaker 1: Six news talk Ziby around the country.
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Speaker 2: We go callen productor good morning to you morning Andrew.
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Speaker 2: So tell me about dietary fiber well.
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Speaker 13: There's a real push here to elevate the status of
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Speaker 13: dietary fiber out of it Tiger University researchers here, in fact,
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Speaker 13: want it recognized internationally as an essential nutrient. It's found
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Speaker 13: in foods like whole grains and legumes. It's proven to
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Speaker 13: reduce the risk of diabetes, heart disease, and cholorectal cancer.
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Speaker 13: But New Zealanders don't ease enough of it. Andrew, It's
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Speaker 13: we below twenty grams a day on average. That's below
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Speaker 13: World Health Organization guidelines. The associate professor is Andrew Reynolds.
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Speaker 13: He says increasing dietary fiber delivers more benefits than any
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Speaker 13: other nutrient at all, he says, labeling it as essential
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Speaker 13: change how health professionals monitor our levels and talk to
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Speaker 13: patients great enough.
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Speaker 2: How's your weather wed here as well?
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Speaker 13: Shews today, turning to rain later strong nor easteries eighteen
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Speaker 13: the High.
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Speaker 2: Claire Sherwood joins us fro christ urach Healclaire, Hello, so
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Speaker 2: was there a fire at christ Urch Hospital?
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Speaker 10: There was?
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Speaker 14: Indeed, several appointments and treatments have now been rescheduled as
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Speaker 14: a result. This fire broke out in a power supply
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Speaker 14: room yesterday firing emergency. So they were alerted by an
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Speaker 14: automatic alarm on the second level of the y Pupper building.
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Speaker 14: That is the newer building of the hospital. It's where
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Speaker 14: the ED is located, as well as things like ice
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Speaker 14: you and children's ICEE you. Multiple crews responded. It was
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Speaker 14: extinguished within an hour, but Canterbury Director of Operations for
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Speaker 14: Health New Zealand, Hamish Brown, says while all patients and
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Speaker 14: staff were safe, some had to be moved due to
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Speaker 14: this strong smell that was lingering. He says, anyone with
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Speaker 14: non urgent concerns should today be considering other options for
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Speaker 14: acute care while staff continue to work to clean up.
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Speaker 14: Anyone who does need anything urgent should still come to ED,
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Speaker 14: of course, or call one one one.
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Speaker 2: How's it with her?
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Speaker 14: More rain here as well. We'll develop this morning heavier later.
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Speaker 14: There is a heavy rain watch in place over night
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Speaker 14: tonight northeasterly strong and high of seventeen.
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Speaker 2: Max told joins usrom Wellington, good morning to Max, Good
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Speaker 2: morning is it raining there?
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Speaker 6: Little drizzley, little cloudy, but no touch would We're going
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Speaker 6: to avoid the worst of it.
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Speaker 2: Well, you need to insurance come to town and a
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Speaker 2: new bar is opened.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, just on the bar a couple intriguing things and
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Speaker 6: intriguing things about it. It is a craft beer brew bar.
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Speaker 6: This is a new Plymouth brewery that's decided to expand
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Speaker 6: to Wellington, called Three Sisters. Generally speaking, in the Capitol,
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Speaker 6: I think we've seen more craft beer places closed rather
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Speaker 6: than open. I also think it's fair to say the
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Speaker 6: craft beer bubble may have burst, or at least reached
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Speaker 6: a peak a few years ago. But certainly excellent news
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Speaker 6: for the capital. We have, of course, garage project here
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Speaker 6: and that's sort of the flagship local success story. It's
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Speaker 6: also on Blair Streak, which is basically Courtney Place, a
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Speaker 6: touchstone in some ways for the central city's hospitality struggles.
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Speaker 6: So good news there, all the best of them. Their
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Speaker 6: owner told us he doesn't feel the same doom and
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Speaker 6: gloom everyone else does. And it seems like if you're innovative,
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Speaker 6: you do business well and the right way, you can
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Speaker 6: be a success in the capital. So perhaps a few
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Speaker 6: people going there before Ed Sheeran. Tonight's sold out apparently
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Speaker 6: thirty five thousand, five million dollars to the local economy expected.
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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, so Wellington. Let's talk about craft beer.
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Speaker 2: You've already told us that we're there, but what's the
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Speaker 2: official forecast?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Claudia was showers, not easterly's getting up to
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Speaker 6: twenty two degrees and to walk.
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Speaker 2: Came we go. Niven Littimano joins us. Greetings, and you're
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Speaker 2: the voice of reason for and authority for the entire nation,
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Speaker 2: So tell me about the weather.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, let's talk about the weather. Look, the watchers and
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Speaker 15: warnings you're in effect across northern and central parts of
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Speaker 15: both islands.
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Speaker 7: Now.
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Speaker 15: This includes the orange warnings for Northland, Coramandel Bay of Plenty,
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Speaker 15: which includes Rotador of course in Northern Gisbon District on Price. Now,
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Speaker 15: he's the NIMA Deputy Chief Executive. That's the National Emergency
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Speaker 15: Management Area, so he says that we can expect large
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Speaker 15: amounts of water in a very short period of time.
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Speaker 15: So unfortunately this is going to be including all those
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Speaker 15: areas that have been soaked as well. I really feel
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Speaker 15: for Northland particularly. There's a precautionary state of emergency now
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Speaker 15: that's been issued for Fannaday and the other areas. They're increasing,
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Speaker 15: they're monitoring just in case they need to do the same.
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Speaker 2: You know, everyone's talking about this crazy weather, but it
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Speaker 2: always rains in January and then it's lovely in February,
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Speaker 2: as you're quite right, I know, which is why I
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Speaker 2: worked all of January. But I've got February off, so
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Speaker 2: there lovely. I'd ask you about the weather, but I
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Speaker 2: don't know.
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Speaker 15: It's you know, And I've just got to say for
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Speaker 15: Aucklanders as well, it's not just the rain. Easterlies gale
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Speaker 15: in exposed places gusting one hundred kilometers per hour today.
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Speaker 15: That's very very strong. Batten down the heatches twenty four
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Speaker 15: is the high.
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Speaker 2: It is at seventeen to six. I wanted to talk
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Speaker 2: to you about Matt Carney, the Canadian Prime Minister, for
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Speaker 2: a while because I don't know if you noticed last
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Speaker 2: weekend he did a trillion dollar trade deal with China
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Speaker 2: and as part of it, they're going to let it
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Speaker 2: fifty thousand Chinese made EV's into the country annually. They're
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Speaker 2: going to put a six point one percent tariff on
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Speaker 2: them instead of what they had before, which was a
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Speaker 2: one hundred percent tariff, and this quote is expected to increase.
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Speaker 2: They're going to bring in about seventy thousand vehicles within
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Speaker 2: five years and what Canada gets in return. China's agreed
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Speaker 2: to lower tariffs on Canadian canola and seafood exports, and
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Speaker 2: the dealer is framed as part of about a big deal.
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Speaker 2: It's a trillion dollar trade deal. But what's important about this,
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Speaker 2: what's smart about this is the major break from US
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Speaker 2: policy as the US continues to impose extraordinarily high tariffs
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Speaker 2: on Chinese evs and how that affects the States, and
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Speaker 2: what Canada's done makes it very smart. The Canadian Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister Mark Karnei has decided that instead of fighting the States,
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Speaker 2: it's time to pivot, and the loser will be the
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Speaker 2: US motor industry. US made vehicles imported into Canada are
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Speaker 2: already down thirty six percent over the year because of
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Speaker 2: the tariff war. Karni is now replacing them with Chinese evs.
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Speaker 2: And say what you will about EV's people, I still
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Speaker 2: like to buy cheap cars. China's going to invest in
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Speaker 2: Canada with factories and jobs. It's just a smart deal
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Speaker 2: that's going to hurt the States the most. Mark Carney
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Speaker 2: is a former Bank of England governor. With Japan, he
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Speaker 2: organized a bonds crisis which affected the States when the
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Speaker 2: tariffs were first announced. Trump knows a real estate deal,
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Speaker 2: but this man knows how the whole world works. And
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Speaker 2: America needs to realize as they try to impose their
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Speaker 2: will that there are some very smart people in the room.
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Speaker 2: And wouldn't it be nice if we had a carnee
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Speaker 2: in New Zealand. It's sixteen to.
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Speaker 1: Six international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to the UK. Gavin greg good morning to you,
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Speaker 2: hi Baron. So the United States President has gone and
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Speaker 2: called the United Kingdom stupid and your Prime minister stupid
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Speaker 2: over their deal with the Chargos Archipelago. I've never heard
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Speaker 2: of the Chargos Archipelago. What is the deal and was
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Speaker 2: it stupid?
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Speaker 16: Well, this was all agreed back in May, and under
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Speaker 16: this huge agreement to critics would say, the UK is
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Speaker 16: leasing back something it already owns Mauritius off the Indian Ocean,
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Speaker 16: is claiming ownership of the Jagos Islands. It's important because
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Speaker 16: there is a UK US military base on one of
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Speaker 16: these islands called Diego Garcia, and plenty of people say that, well,
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Speaker 16: this deal is rubbish. Wise, our Prime Minister doing this,
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Speaker 16: or others are saying, well, he's doing the legal and
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Speaker 16: the loyal thing that they've taken advice and Britain doesn't
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Speaker 16: own it, so we've got to give it back now.
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Speaker 16: At the time, the Americans said it was a good deal.
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Speaker 16: And when I say the Americans, I do mean the
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Speaker 16: US President. Now he said, well, as we know that,
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Speaker 16: it is a straight stupidity. Add to that the mix
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Speaker 16: of course they're all going to Davos. Add to that
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Speaker 16: the mix that Donald Trump has effectively put on social
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Speaker 16: media for all to read a private text from the
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Speaker 16: French President Emmanuel Macron. And add to that the Europeans
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Speaker 16: pledging to play fire with fire when it comes to
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Speaker 16: these tariffs about Greenland.
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Speaker 1: What a big mess?
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Speaker 2: Can we just put them in a room and Davos
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Speaker 2: and just let them hit each other for a while
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Speaker 2: and then I'd agree to carry on because this is
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Speaker 2: getting this is getting ridiculous, But there we go. Okay. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 2: UK here has approved China's plans for a new embassy
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Speaker 2: in central London, which I presume is full of all
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Speaker 2: sorts of gadgets.
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Speaker 16: Yes, it's absolutely massive, and it's now near Tower Bridge
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Speaker 16: and the famous Tower of London. But it is not
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Speaker 16: because of its looks that people are so concerned about it.
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Speaker 16: It is because it is so huge and there are
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Speaker 16: lots of rooms that seem to have no particular use,
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Speaker 16: and that's led to fears by some that Beijing will
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Speaker 16: use this as a huge spy center. The corner of
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Speaker 16: the building runs very close to some underground cables which
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Speaker 16: carry all the financial data across the city of London.
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Speaker 16: There is concern in there will be eavesdropping on those,
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Speaker 16: and concerns as well that some ex Hong Kongers who
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Speaker 16: are living here in the UK in freedom but often
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Speaker 16: in secret, are going to be rounded up and housed
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Speaker 16: in that embassy for internation. Those are the claims of
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Speaker 16: the allegations. China says that's nonsense. But now add to
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Speaker 16: that typewrote that we just talked about Sekir Starmer not
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Speaker 16: playing it as hard as the EU was about these tariffs,
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Speaker 16: wanting to remain friends with Donald Trump. Now seeing that
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Speaker 16: friendship blow up by that quote of great stupidity, what
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Speaker 16: will Donald Trump say about allowing China such a huge
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Speaker 16: embassy in the UK. Well, I'm sure we'll find out.
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Speaker 16: On truth Social in the next few houts.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Kevin Gray from the UK, I thank you. Ticked through,
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Speaker 2: of course, says Trump knows who Canny is, do you well?
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Speaker 2: I do. Actually I've read his book. Have you read
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Speaker 2: his book? Mac Canney has written a book called Values.
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Speaker 2: It's a great read and it's about actually having values
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Speaker 2: while also having a neoliberal economy while having capitalism. And
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Speaker 2: it's a great book. Can I suggest it's in all libraries?
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Speaker 2: Mac Canny Values, have a read, I have.
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Speaker 1: News talks it'd be it is ten to six.
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Speaker 2: Now here's a question. Did official agencies fast enough to
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Speaker 2: save Tom phillips children from the mattercop of Bush? That
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Speaker 2: is the question. A inquiry. An inquiry is starting today
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Speaker 2: aims to find out and so Phillips said his children
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Speaker 2: successfully hid from police for four years, in which time
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Speaker 2: police say that no contact was ever made. That is
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Speaker 2: until a faithful shootout came the life of Tom Phillips
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Speaker 2: in September, with all his children found safe. So doctor
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Speaker 2: Anna Marie Brennan is a senior lecturer at the University
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Speaker 2: of Wicato and joins me. Now, Anna Marie, good morning to.
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Speaker 17: You, good morning.
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Speaker 2: What are the questions having? It's a pleasure. What are
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Speaker 2: the questions that this inquiry needs to answer.
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Speaker 17: There are three central questions here. Firstly, whether parenting orders
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Speaker 17: were properly enforced by our state agencies, whether police and
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Speaker 17: Child Protection services discharged their statary duties. Was New Zealand's
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Speaker 17: obligations under international law observed here? And then whether intur
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Speaker 17: agency coordination massive those thresholds as well. So there's a
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Speaker 17: number of questions that this inquiry will be looking at,
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Speaker 17: and especially why it took so long to recover these children.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the basic question, is it was international law involved.
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Speaker 17: New Zealand is a member of the United Nations Convention
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Speaker 17: and the Rights of the Child, and under that convention
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Speaker 17: the best interests of the child are at the center
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Speaker 17: of all decision making. So New Zealand is obliged to
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Speaker 17: protect children from harm, neglect and abuse. It must make
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Speaker 17: clear as well that children deprived of their family environment
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Speaker 17: must be given special protection in the systems. And the
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Speaker 17: case of Tom Phillips is absolutely unprecedented. And these are
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Speaker 17: bind emmitments, they are not aspirational.
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Speaker 2: Goals, Okay, I understand it. And so what agencies are
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Speaker 2: accused of abrogating their duties and leading this get away
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Speaker 2: for so long.
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Speaker 17: Well, firstly is the question about whether agencies like the
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Speaker 17: police and our Tomriki, whether the operations in isolation, did
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Speaker 17: they coordinate over this time period to try and find
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Speaker 17: its children. And essentially this inquiry is trying to expose
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Speaker 17: those systemic vulnerabilities so that in a case as extraordinary
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Speaker 17: and as on precedent as this does not happen to
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Speaker 17: happen again.
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Speaker 2: All right, good stuff, and I thank you so much.
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Speaker 2: That is doctor Anne Anna Maria Brennan, and she is
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Speaker 2: a senior lecturer at the University of Waikato School of Law.
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Speaker 2: Certainly the kids have there's a level of secrecy to
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Speaker 2: protect them as well, but it will be very interesting
31:38
Speaker 2: to know just what really happened and who might have
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Speaker 2: turned to blind eye and who didn't have an eye
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Speaker 2: at all. And that's starting today and it's seven to six.
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Speaker 2: Weddie Mike Greetings. Don't you wish you were still on
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Speaker 2: holiday right now without weather like this?
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Speaker 18: So fully enough, I've enjoyed being back this week. Oh
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Speaker 18: we know that I thoroughly enjoyed it. I think it's
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Speaker 18: good and I'm not getting over the exercised. About the weather,
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Speaker 18: that's probably not politic to say it in certain parts
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Speaker 18: of the country at the moment, but I think the
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Speaker 18: rain's good for a lot of people. We forget about
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Speaker 18: that side of the equation over summer.
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Speaker 2: We always forget that January is wet. You know, when
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Speaker 2: I did the Summer Breakfast show, right, the boss comes
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Speaker 2: to me and goes, Dick and see, you'll love this.
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Speaker 2: You know you're going to have to work on Boxing Day,
32:29
Speaker 2: You're going to have to work on New Year's Day.
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Speaker 2: It's just going to have to work all the way through.
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Speaker 2: But then you work all January, but then you get
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Speaker 2: February when the weather is so much better.
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Speaker 3: Is where it's at.
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Speaker 18: The seasons have changed. This morning, we're going to celebrate
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Speaker 18: the services sector, which I'm excited about because the services sector,
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Speaker 18: most people don't seem to understand us about seventy percent
32:47
Speaker 18: of any given economy. It's basically everything. You know, it's
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Speaker 18: when you go to the cafe anyway, it's back and positive.
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Speaker 2: Is it a nineteen percent or something like that. It's
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Speaker 2: quite a good number.
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Speaker 18: It's a very good number. It's up four point something
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Speaker 18: and it's back and positive for the first time in
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Speaker 18: a couple of years. So, as far as I can
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Speaker 18: work out, it's the last piece in the puzzle. So
33:03
Speaker 18: you had the GDP that came out, you've got the
33:05
Speaker 18: broad confidence numbers which look good. Then you had the
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Speaker 18: manufacturing a week or so back, and now you've finally
33:10
Speaker 18: got services. So in other words, every aspect of the
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Speaker 18: economy is back in positive territory. So that's a good
33:16
Speaker 18: sign in Worlworth.
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Speaker 2: So I think the answer is in the name services.
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Speaker 2: They've got a service, they're functioning.
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Speaker 18: Anything to do with it, whatever, whatever, Services is a
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Speaker 18: massive chunk of the going to be that's what SO
33:25
Speaker 18: will do that. And the election date, of course, which
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Speaker 18: I'm assuming there is no member of the seven I'm not.
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Speaker 18: Are you excited? Couldn't kill this. It's it's going to
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Speaker 18: be no end of it's November seventh, I just or thereabouts. Yeah,
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Speaker 18: I mean if it's the Saturday, then sure, it's.
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Speaker 2: Going to be as late as possible so they can
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Speaker 2: get as many green shoots as possible.
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Speaker 3: That'll be right.
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Speaker 18: That's how it works. Anyway, that and many other matters great.
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Speaker 2: My thanks for producer Kenzie. Also to Samuel like some
33:48
Speaker 2: of a breakfast producer who set the show up. I'll
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Speaker 2: be back tomorrow, have fun. Stay dry.
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