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Is Starlink RIPPING Us Apart from the Inside Out? w/ Cory Hillis · Man in America Podcast

• 0:15
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. One of the main themes of this show is uncovering all the various ways that we are being poisoned and attacked, whether it's looking at the medical system or looking at what's going into our food or the propaganda in our minds. And so today's topic though is the poison that most people are not that real quite aware of. It's EMF poisoning.
• 0:46
  It's something that affects all of us in ways that are so far beyond what we can actually comprehend. If you look at the electronics are surrounding our society today, even if you live out in the country, you've still got star sorry, Elon Musk's, Starlink. Yeah. Starlink beaming down on you. Then we have the fiber optic stuff going on that they're putting in.
• 1:09
  So it's insane the amount of radiation that is affecting our bodies at levels never seen before in history. And so my guest today is Corey Hillis, someone who is an expert at understanding exactly what this radiation is, what it's doing to our bodies, but also how to mitigate it. So please enjoy the show with Corey Hillis. Mr. Corey Hillis, it's great to have you on the show.
• 1:32
  Thank you so much for being here with us today.
• 1:35
  Speaker 2: Seth, I've heard really good things and that's not just saying it like you're supposed to say good things when you come on the show, really have. And so I thank you for having me on. I'm really excited to talk about what we're gonna talk about today.
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: No. Me too. And I mean, and I'm not just saying that either. Like, I'm genuinely excited to have this conversation about EMFs because this is something that and maybe I can well, first, I'll let you introduce yourself, and then I wanna give a little bit of our background and our journey with EMF because I think that'll be helpful for you to hear what we've done, and that just kind of helps set the stage for our overall discussion. So I'll let you give us a quick background of yourself first.
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: Sure, so I was not in this business at all. I got horrible health problems about twenty years ago. Nothing worked, every doctor I could get my hands on, nobody could figure anything out. Finally, I went to a holistic guy. I did all the holistic too.
• 2:29
  Did all the Western medicine, Eastern medicine. Finally, somebody started getting me better. I went to work for a company that trained him, a chiropractor and something called Quantum Reflex Analysis. So I worked for a premier research labs. Quit the finance industry stuff I was doing.
• 2:44
  I went into that. I wanted to help people the way I was helped. And in the process, I became a practitioner over the years, and my wife did. And we realized, my colleagues, myself, my wife, if we didn't address the invisible ginormous elephant in the room, this EMF radiation for my clients, it's very hard to address their issues, their health issues properly. People like Doctor.
• 3:11
  Klinghardt, who's an expert in Lyme, for example, he says, If you don't address the EMFs, don't even waste your time seeing them, because it's too hard to get better if you're dealing with this onslaught that we have today. So my wife and I went out to go try to solve the problem, and in doing so, we tested every product we get our hands on, and we couldn't find any that totally worked. A lot of things worked a little bit, some didn't work at all, and a few made it worse. And so we said, well, I gotta fix this problem myself. So I started studying, and I'm one to pray and study at the same time.
• 3:46
  I believe I got a download on some things that were amazing. I applied it, it worked out. It was like, it made all of the things connect the dots ever since, every test and study and everything we ever do, it just works. It's beautiful. And that's kind of what happened.
• 4:05
  We were just fixing it for our clients and ourselves. And then I got too busy. She had to quit her practice. She got too busy, then I trained somebody, and then I got too busy for that. So I trained somebody to train the people, and then it just kinda accidentally grew into a company.
• 4:19
  So that's kinda where we came from, and my background a little bit. Started off as an engineer in college, ended up with a MBA, but having bad health problems and getting into it kind of put me here, I guess.
• 4:36
  Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because they say, like a sick man will seek any doctor, right? Like when you're sick, it doesn't matter what it is. It's like, if you think you can find hope in something, and I think the intelligent or the wise sick men seek outside of the Western medical system, and they find us like, Oh, okay. There's actually other ways of doing this. Doesn't involve chemotherapy and whatever it is that we're we're dealing with.
• 4:56
  And so so getting into EMF, and I guess I'll I'll wait to tell you our process with it till late little bit later in the show. Getting into EMFs, the average person that let's say, you know, I work from home. A lot of people spend, you know, a good chunk of their lives at home or in an office. Office, I'm sure you have a lot less control over in terms of your your environment, but I'm sure you have some control. But sitting at home as an example, you referred to it as like the this the silent giant elephant in the room.
• 5:27
  How prevalent are EMFs in the average person's home, and what are those EMFs doing to us? How serious is it?
• 5:36
  Speaker 2: You know, I can't use adjectives big enough. So today, compared to four or five years ago, it's ripping us apart from the inside out. It's so horrific and horrible. This is the biggest toxic, unless you are living in a black mold house, this is the biggest environmental toxin that you're being exposed to, and you can't avoid it anymore. It used to be, you know, shut your cell phone off, keep it away from you, put your router on the other side of the house, do certain things.
• 6:05
  You could do those things and it would be helpful. Now you have cell towers, cell towers in outer space, that's what I call Starlink, laser beaming radiation at the highest frequency we have commercially pretty much down from outer space, and now you have something that nobody will talk about on any of your shows, because they don't know it yet, but the new fiber optic they're installing. Fiber optic should not, if you accept the science everybody else knows, not that we've discovered, but if you accept the traditional science that everybody else knows, that should not be affecting people in a negative way, but I have canaries in the coal mine, thousands of them across the country flipping out, they fixed their house with our products, they got these great testimonials, and then they put in fiber optics, not even to their house, just in the neighborhood. And then all of sudden all their symptoms are coming back or they're a mess, we have to, we're just in the process of finding out how to have one size fits all solution for that. That's another story.
• 7:04
  But all of these things, you can't avoid it anymore. You could be in the Rocky Mountains, and now you're getting Starlink service, you know, and that Starlink service is technically worse than if you were a block away from a cell tower in the city, because of the nature of how it is. And I can explain all that in layman term science, we get into the weeds of that, but people have no idea. And let me say a couple more things. There are over 10,000 studies proving this, this is not a question, this is more proven than smoking being bad for you, okay?
• 7:33
  This is proven more than anything I've ever heard of before. Yet it's swept under the rug, just like smoking was for a long time, with good reason, because there's more money in this than anything ever. You this, you know, you got the cell phone industry, everything electric in your house has EMS, especially the ones that have Bluetooth and WiFi. So imagine like, you know, how many industries you're covering? They don't wanna say that they're hurting you.
• 7:57
  So they do say it, it's in the small print of your cell phone, but they're not gonna say it like in a cigarette pack, right big on the outside of your case of your cell phone when you buy it, which it should, and they were sued for that to happen, didn't work. But they're sweeping it out the rug big time. And if people look at some of the studies, they will be blown away at how not just many different chronic health diseases that are affecting people today come from EMS, but they'll never think it's, you know, they don't look there as the reason, but the severity of how much DNA damage is happening to you on a daily basis from your cell phone, from your router, from all this stuff will blow people's minds. They can't even believe that's allowed to get in the hands of their children, and nobody told them until they look at the science and then their jaws drop and they hopefully take action.
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: And so from the angle of science makes sense. You know, as a kid, I grew up with microwave. Now we don't have microwave. We don't use microwaves. We're growing up and and, you know, I'd be looking at my food in there cooking, whether it's popcorn, and I'm almost saying, no, don't don't put your head so close to microwave.
• 9:08
  Right? It's bad for you. It's gonna hurt your brain. And it's like, oh, okay. And so it's like also, was like, well, I'm eating the food that just got microwaved.
• 9:17
  So, like, what's that gonna do? If those things if they if they touch my brain, it's gonna melt my brain, but what's happening to the food itself? But it's easy to see how a microwave could put off that bad radiation. But in looking at, say, Starlink as an example, like, that's something I I hadn't thought about. You know, we've we've EMF proofed our house to a lot of degrees.
• 9:37
  You know? We've got no smart meter. We don't buy smart appliances. You know, we've done a lot of we've grounding mats. We hardwired our Internet.
• 9:43
  We've done a lot of those kinds of things to help with EMFs, but I can't, you know, I can't put a a Faraday cage over top of my house to protect me from starling. Right? So but getting back to the the the question of the biological aspect of this, what's happening to our body when exposed when exposed to these EMFs? And, like, I know you have a, like, a little reader. Right?
• 10:11
  So someone just sitting in their house in a room that doesn't necessarily have a smart TV across from whatever. Like, what's what's the average household even have? What levels they have? What what are those levels doing to us?
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: The levels are astronomically way, way over what the FCC considers safe, and their level is astronomically high compared to what scientists say is really safe. You know what I mean?
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: Imagine that.
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: They picked an arbitrary level of heating your head. So let's talk about the microwave oven for a second. You mentioned the microwave oven heating food. That's 2.45 to 2.5 gigahertz, or a frequency that shakes two and a half billion times a second. So the way your microwave heats food is it spins and shakes molecules two and a half billion times a second, basically.
• 11:05
  They smash into each other at two and a half billion times a second, that friction heats your food up, okay? Now let's fast forward to your router using the exact same frequency as your microwave oven, most people don't realize, okay? That two and a half and five gs, that's not fifth generation, five gs that you see when you log into your internet, that's five gigahertz. That's 2.5 is 2.45 to 2.5. It's always in that range somewhere.
• 11:36
  They all have their own little spot in there to 2.5, which is double two and a half. So it's like, it's that, and then double, which is just double the same problem. So you're using a router, router is basically a microwave oven with no walls on it. The reason it's heating your food is because all the radiation bounces well, now they have holes in front. So some of it comes out, which makes it dangerous and no good, But most of it bounces off the walls until it absorbs in your food, and when it absorbs, that's when it shakes and vibrates the molecules and causes that problem.
• 12:09
  Now, let's talk about your cell phone. You're on a cell phone call like this for ten minutes, okay? That heats your head, says the FCC, that's what their safety guideline is, they have an acceptable level of that heating your head, okay? Think about this, just like a microwave oven heats food. So how does it heat your head?
• 12:32
  Like being next to a radiator, where the heat gently comes in or a fireplace? No, it shakes and vibrates molecules and spins them, so they smash into each other two and a half billion times a second to heat your head. And they think there's an acceptable level of that. That is insane to me. And anybody, any scientist that really knows how this happens should be appalled that we picked a safe level of thermal heating of our head from a cell phone.
• 13:00
  Here it gets worse. The FCC doesn't even test it touching your body. It doesn't even test it touching anybody. It tests it on a dummy they call Sam, okay? And the dummy, they put fluid and some stuff in it to mimic, a human they say, but that's ridiculous to mimic biological tissue, but let's just say the Sam's perfect.
• 13:26
  They still don't even put it against Sam's head, they fold it away, so many millimeters away, because they know if they put it on, it'll be so astronomically high above their safety guideline, that it'll be absurd. So in a lawsuit years ago, they were sued because Chicago Tribune did some homework and said, this is not safe like you're saying. And then somebody named Cohen sued Apple. And so it was found, the FCC finally did it closer to the head, five millimeters, and found that it was hundreds of times above their safety guideline. Every cell phone in the audience right now, everybody listening has a cell phone that says in the fine print, this cell phone, as soon as you touch it, exceeds the safety guidelines, and that's an unsafe level of radiation coming off your phone.
• 14:17
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• 15:22
  Speaker 2: And the level that they picked, I already explained, is absurdly high if you understand the science. So that was a lawsuit too. Somebody sued them saying, hey, just put that on the package when people buy, so that they can understand this is a safety hazard, there's some risk to it, so we can have options. But they don't do it because they know nobody reads the fine print, the darn judge said, No, it's redundant. It's a long story with a legal jumbo, but he said, it's already the fine print, we're gonna leave it there.
• 15:54
  Shame on that judge. So that's a little bit about a microwave oven. Everything Bluetooth and WiFi, like your cell phone, your WiFi router, everything else, Bluetooth WiFi is pretty much using a frequency like your microwave oven. They're all microwaves, okay? And they have effects.
• 16:12
  They have non thermal effects, and by the time you get the thermal heating, the effects are just crazy, crazy high.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: So it it now I mean, it makes sense to imagine that kind of rapid shaking and spinning at the molecular cellular level. It it doesn't sound healthy. Doesn't sound good. So I mean, to to put it lightly. So what what does that do to your body, though?
• 16:37
  Like, what what are the you know, someone who's would you say that a lot of people's illnesses and ailments are just just radiation poisoning? And is that what radiation poisoning is? I mean, how how would you how would you classify that? What is it, what are the effects it has on the physical body?
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: I'll tell people in the audience where to go. They can go research this themselves in minutes, not hours, in non biased places. They could read summaries of many, many, many studies. So the most common symptoms of being exposed to household levels of EMF from microwave radiation that we get, fatigue, like chronic fatigue that people have, sleep issues, concentration issues, immune system imbalances and suppression and problems, cardiovascular issues, low melatonin production when you're sleeping. They call it issues to reproduction.
• 17:35
  I say it's complete destruction of our reproductive abilities is going on right under our noses, and we aren't aware of that. So that's a whole lot, I couldn't talk an hour about that conversation alone. That's happening and the list goes on and on and on. So it's such a large list. There are so many studies, but if you say to yourself, you've read that list and a longer list than that, you say, I don't have symptoms, luckily I'm okay.
• 17:59
  No, you're not, because you are getting, your calcium channels are malfunctioning, that's leading to nitric oxide imbalances, free radical damage, and DNA damage. That's happening in every human out here. If that doesn't translate into a symptom that you recognize yet, good for you, that's great, but it's happening in massive amounts. And I can point to the study showing how much DNA damage is happening just from your cell phone alone. And people will be like, they won't even believe it.
• 18:31
  I mean, it's so, to think that it's this much and they're not being told, they're not even gonna believe it. So those are the symptoms that are happening to people, and they just so happen to be the most common symptoms out there today, right? Chronic fatigue, sleep issues, like you get tired halfway through the day, all this stuff describes like what's happening. Just so happens when we fix a house, better sleep, more energy, little aches and pains going away are top, happen to be our top testimonials too. When it doesn't happen, I'm almost surprised.
• 18:59
  So anyway, those are the things happening. And if you don't have the symptoms, all that DNA damage, is that gonna spell something in the future for know, it's kind of rolling the dice. It's not the dice I plan on rolling with me and my family.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, me neither. I mean, it sounds like, you know, it could be, say twenty years from now, have brain cancer. It's like, oh, where'd that come from? It's like, who knows? Right?
• 19:25
  But it could have been, it could have been that.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I didn't say cancer, but there's lots of studies on cancer. And can I give a website to your listeners?
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'll pull it up actually, what is it?
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: It's the bio initiative, one word, just the bioinitiative.org, and if you add on the end of that, forward slash conclusions, that is a great spot to go. The reason it's my favorite, and there's a lot of others, but the reason that's my favorite is because they've been doing it the longest. The members are from around the world, United States, Canada, Mexico, Europe, Russia, Australia, everywhere. They're environmental group leaders and scientists. They've been doing it longer than just about anybody.
• 20:13
  They have probably as many or more studies than anybody. They're non biased, they don't sell anything. They're not funded by anybody that sells anything. So I just think they're the best, biggest, most knowledgeable body of information on EMF radiation that there is. So the reason I like this page, the conclusions page, is because somebody who's new can go here, and this summarizes 1,800 studies.
• 20:40
  So you can read what they say about how many studies were on leukemia, how many of them were conclusive. And if they don't know what that means, it means there's almost a guarantee that the EMF was the cause of the thing that is in the study. And it just goes, you know, one by one, like kids being more affected, low melatonin production when you're sleeping, and all the symptoms I talked about are pretty much all in here. And they can just kind of read until they are convinced and they get this real deal. So this is a really good place to start, if you're looking for information.
• 21:13
  And this link is on our website as well, of course. Lots of other links to lots of other cool stuff is on there as well.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, mean, is, you know, I've got a, again, you know, one year old and a four year old, and even this is just crazy, he's saying, you know, effects on the developing fetus from in utero exposure to cell phone radiation have been observed in both human and animal studies since 2006. They found that children born of mothers who used cell phones during pregnancy developed more behavioral problems by the time they have reached school age than children whose mothers did not use cell phones during pregnancy. Children whose mothers use cell phones during pregnancy had twenty five percent more emotional problems, thirty five percent hyperactivity, and forty nine percent more conduct problems, and thirty four percent more peer problems, and that was two thousand and eight. And I'm sure that the phones I
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: would say that's an old study because the cell phones today are so much worse.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, exactly.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you a study, and in about that same time period that the European Union paid millions of Euro for 12 institutions across Europe to participate in, It's called the reflex study. There's a lot of DNA studies showing DNA damage from this stuff. This one, they decided let's test to see how much a cell phone from around the time of that study you read, yesterday's cell phone, how much DNA damage is that causing a human versus a chest x-ray, which we know is a higher frequency instead of billions of waves a second, it's many trillions of waves a second ionic radiation, and it damages you differently, it's two totally separate ways that it damages you. That was the problem, we had to figure out that second one. It took fifty years to discover how ionic radiation was damaging us, by the way, they played around this stuff for fifty years before we realized, oops, it's damaging DNA, so don't do it too often, you know, only when you need it like medically.
• 23:06
  But now we know that the other one, it took us sixty years to discover microwave radiation, just hurting us a whole different way causing DNA damage, but it's a whole different mechanism and how that's happening. And the world's not waking up to it yet, but this study, let's go back to the reflex study. Twenty four hours on a cell phone was equal to the same as sixteen hundred chest x rays worth of DNA damage. And they show the pictures, it's called the assay method, of the strand breaks. It's like a little, it's like it gets smeared when you have strand breaks in these plates assay method.
• 23:40
  So they unanimously agreed, not one dude, 12 institutions across Europe. And the guy who headed the study was a major stud in his field. So very respected, and it was paid for by the European Union. So this is just one of many studies our government, US governments paid, the state governments have paid for these proving this is harmful. And they always just sweep it under the rug.
• 24:07
  But this result will show people how like severe this, if that's a tenth true, it's a big, it's a lot. We're getting a lot of DNA damage from this stuff. We just don't realize
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: And one thing that I've noticed, especially since COVID, I think during COVID, there was a lot of lockdowns, there were a lot of new five gs towers that were put up. And, you know, people have done different, you know, digs into why that was happening, but it it's something that I've certainly noticed. You know, we where we live, thankfully, there's no five g towers within even probably a mile from here, and we, you know, we we live in a very rural area, very mountainous. So what have the obviously, we've got Starlink, we have things satellite coming down, but what effect are the five g towers having? Like, they put a five g tower up in an area, what's going on around that area?
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: It's all cumulative, these things, you know, I can't blame one, I can't blame any. I don't think Elon Musk thinks he's like hurting people, because physicists and electrical engineers, and I have a relative who's an electrical engineer, genius IQ, works on space station stuff and all this. It's drilled in their head that ionic radiation is harmful. And because this lower frequency stuff doesn't harm you the same way, they assume it's harmless. But they're not biologists, unless you marry a physicist, so to speak to a biologist, so they get together and they share information.
• 25:34
  I'm happy to explain to your audience how this happens. They'll never figure it out. And so all this stuff's going up everywhere unchecked, because the physicists like that work for Elon Musk on his electric cars, Starlink and all the rest are saying, don't worry about it, it's fine. What they're looking at, they're looking at a satellite that has to be super strong up there, because almost all of that radiation, 99.9 of it gets absorbed on the way down. Only a little bit of it makes it to your antenna, which is your satellite dish on your house or your car or wherever.
• 26:11
  Phone now is, now phones are connected to those. So you got a satellite dish that gets like, let's say about the same amount of radiation as a cell tower. It's coming to that satellite dish. Well, what happened to the 99.9% of energy that was coming down, that got absorbed? The scientists ignore that completely.
• 26:29
  And we're the only place in the world saying the thing you're ignoring is the problem. It's the absorbed radiation that is shaking and vibrating molecules, we call it subatomic chaos, that is vibrating through solid material, that is fooling our calcium channels into malfunctioning, that causes that snowball of effect we talked about inside the cell, that then can translate into health problems and symptoms and things like that. So like the whole science is there, and we've proved not only that that's happening, but we've proved with human cells that our products fix it all too. That malfunction is not happening in the cell when our products are being used. And nobody's, a lot of people out there have great marketing, but nobody's got our science to date.
• 27:19
  So I'm happy to get into that stuff. Let me show your listeners, you said cell towers. So I'm gonna go back to a cell phone. This is first a cell phone. So this is called blood microscopy testing.
• 27:33
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• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Dark field blood microscopy testing, okay? This is a rep that works for us. She's now a manager. So this was her blood under a microscope. Went to a doctor, happened to do this, not many do.
• 29:20
  They prick her finger. They look at her red blood cells under a microscope. They're supposed to be round and spaced apart. So they're not looking too perfect here. But she's also in the lobby with WiFi routers in the building and people's cell phones around and all that.
• 29:34
  Well, she gets on the phone call with our chip on the phone, protecting her cell phone. Then they prick her finger two minutes on a cell phone call, and then now it's starting to look like it's supposed to. Then she continues the phone call, takes our chip off, and this is what happens to it. So it's called RELLO when they stack up like that. And this happens over and over.
• 29:58
  I have, let's see, we have cell phones, power lines, near cell towers. We have all of those effects that we can show people. Here's one I talked about earlier. This is somebody that was on a ten minute call, and the heat signature didn't change in their head. This is the normal heat signature of their head.
• 30:20
  When they made a call with our cell chip, it didn't change at all. When they didn't use our cell chip on a cell phone, look at the heat signature that changed on their head. Their head's heating up, just like I said, a microwave oven does. The white is the hottest, the red is the next hot. That's what's happening on a cell phone.
• 30:40
  So when you look at the science, and so the reason I'm so passionate about this is because I did that, my wife did that. I got my printer fixed, my wife did, her mom, all of our friends and family, because we're trying to get all the people into the study that we could get. We've gone through these, we've seen it messes us up. And then when you do the products and it fixes it, you have a lot more hope about this stuff. But can I explain how this is happening?
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, please do. Yeah, please do.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: So, it was discovered before we came along that the calcium channels in our cells, calcium channels is a door on the membrane of your cell that lets in calcium. Double ion, that's two positive charges, calcium molecules in or out.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Is is it kinda like a receptor? Is it is it like a calcium receptor, basically?
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: It's it's they're sensitive to different things. The key one that they wanna talk about is voltage gated calcium channels. So when there's a voltage change outside versus inside the cell, when the charge is messed up on the outside versus inside, because it should be balanced for the cell, the cell should be negatively charged compared to its environment. So, and every cell's got their own happy place on that. So it knows how to balance itself.
• 31:55
  So when there's a voltage change, it lets in more calcium and doesn't, it constantly changes in muscle cells and heart cells, and certain ones do have a lot of exchange of this because it's, you know, the charge is what it's all about, right? How muscles work and how your heart works. So there's a lot of like L channels, different kind of channels in these cells. So this was discovered that it would malfunction when around a router, a cell phone, any of this stuff. So is a diagram from Doctor.
• 32:26
  Martin Paul at Washington State University, and this is an EMF, and it causes this calcium channel malfunction, sending double ion calcium molecules in a cell, that imbalance creates the nitric oxide imbalance, free radical damage, and DNA damage. He talks about all of that. I'm gonna let the biochemists explain that stuff. Where we come in is we were the first to discover how the heck this is doing this, because it doesn't make sense. Okay?
• 32:55
  There's a lot of theories on this and none of them add up. Okay? Until you understand what we understand. Radiation goes from a cell tower to your phone, a lot of it goes what? Through a wall, through a floor, another wall finally gets to your cell phone and you're on a phone call.
• 33:11
  Not to mention went through the air for miles or whatever. A lot of that radiation gets absorbed on the way. The absorbed radiation is what causes the shaking and vibrating of molecules, very similar to microwave oven heating your food. It's that shaking and vibrating that conducts through solid material. It's a different form of energy.
• 33:31
  The meter no longer picks it up anymore, the EMF meter. It's not an EMF anymore. It's something else. This is what's causing our calcium channels to malfunction by opening when they're not supposed to, rushing our cell with calcium and causing the imbalance and causing us our problems. The reason I explained that, and the reason it's so important, this is kind of like the download I had years ago, is because our products are addressing that second domino, that subatomic chaos.
• 34:00
  We don't address the EMF. If you block the EMF, you have no router, you have no cell phone, you have no FM radio, you have no nothing. So you can't really block radiation and have your stuff work. But you don't need to because this, until it smashes into a particle, like this is a photon traveling light speed, EMF radiation, when a photon hits into an electron and the electron absorbs the photon, the EMF is gone. There is no photon anymore, it transferred to a new form of energy, and a whole lot of different things can happen here, which we don't have to get into, but one of which we call subatomic chaos.
• 34:36
  And when we address domino two, domino three doesn't happen, which then this stuff shouldn't happen, right? And we tested it on human cells a couple years ago, we had a lab in Texas, test this theory for the 20, I mean, at least 23 times it's been done before we came along, where there were studies on EMFs showing the calcium channels malfunctioning. In this study, we put a router next to human cells in an incubator, and the human cells near the router absolutely were malfunctioning, like predicted, like it's happened before. This time we fixed the router, I'm sorry, we fixed the router that was nearby, and a little bit the incubator, because that's electric, and all the cells return the calcium levels back to normal. That's the first time that's ever been done in history.
• 35:30
  So this malfunctioned, but then with our products addressing this, domino three didn't happen. It was a perfect probability function in the study. In other words, there's zero chance pretty much that our products didn't work. If you know, studies P value was 0.0001. The first time we did the study, it was a little higher because we did a smaller study.
• 35:53
  So we're like, well, let's do thousands of cells of each cell. We did it so big that we got a perfect probability function proving our products work. I mean, that's the bottom line. Interesting. So that's really cool stuff.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: So I'll walk through again, as I mentioned, some of the things that we've done. So we, I guess you could say that the main thing we've focused on is not having smart technology, Bluetooth technology in our home. Now, you know, I've got like, you know, a Bose wireless speaker somewhere. I'm sure it's putting off something, right? But we got rid of our smart meter.
• 36:25
  We hardwired our Internet. We have we have Wi Fi during part of the day, but I have a switch that turns it off, especially at night, but it's it's kind of limited. We've got grounding blankets. We have a a grounding mat on our bed. We've got, at the computer, grounding mats.
• 36:40
  I'm trying to think of anything else that we've done. Those are the main parts. At one point, I thought about, like, I thought about, you know, putting lead paint all over the you know, painting into what's that?
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Don't do that.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: No? Okay. But so that seems like it's probably helpful what we've done, right, in terms of, you know, not having a smart meter, not not having the devices. You know, we bought older, we didn't get new fridges. I found some, you know, kind of higher end, but used like a Wolf range and a sub zero fridge that are just older technology, no smart technology of the kitchen.
• 37:13
  So how effective is what we've done, and where are the loopholes, and how do you address those loopholes?
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I don't do any of those things that you did, but if you didn't have our knowledge, if you didn't have our solutions, then I would do all that stuff, because you did the best you could, and you did a lot of good. Not having devices obviously is, you you're lessening your exposure. You're just getting hammered by, if you're out in the countryside, it sounds like more so rural, you're getting, Starlink's your biggest issue. The more, you know, I know people that used to live in Dallas, they're EMF sensitive a little bit. They fixed it with our products.
• 37:55
  But when you're running around town, you still can tell if you're sensitive. And they moved out hours away from Dallas, into a small town. And after COVID started, and it has nothing to do with COVID, probably doesn't have anything to do with COVID, but it just so happened that's when Starlink started sending thousands of their satellites up, right about when COVID happened. And now she's out there and she says it's worse than Dallas. And the only thing that would make sense is Starlink, because who gets Starlink first?
• 38:24
  It was all the people in the country that can't get internet. And so they're blasting all the countryside with their radiation more than the cities, which don't need it. So I believe that's a really big issue because they don't realize by sending something three fifty miles away to my cell phone or my satellite dish or something, there's a lot more, this is traveling light speed. There's a lot more absorption on the way, it's called attenuation in science, the signal loses its signal, it just means that photons got smashed into things and got absorbed by stuff. But again, that energy doesn't disappear as it's coming light speed at you, and that other absorbed energy is the problem, and the scientists aren't measuring anything about all this, that 99.9% that disappeared.
• 39:18
  And I think that's why the problem is probably so big. My wife sends it to EMS, we couldn't even have the wifi in the car. She got a Chevy Tahoe, and it has the OnStar provided hotspot so that multiple kids could be live streaming, so they shut up on a long trip, you know, like get on their phones or their tablets, or whatever. But she got headaches in the car because she's so sensitive, and we had to disconnect it. That's not many things I say you can not have your cake and eat it too.
• 39:55
  This is how crazy it is. We lived 10 yards from a five gs cell tower when we were in California, before we moved to Charleston, South Carolina. When they put it in, we didn't know, because this was years ago, it was like one of the first ones that ever went up. And we just woke up feeling terrible one day. We're like, what is wrong with this?
• 40:15
  I slept terrible. You too, man. Was like, we felt we had the flu, we didn't. And so it took us a day or two to figure out. Our neighbors said, I wonder if you feel so crummy because of what the phone company did on that pole right next to you.
• 40:29
  Turns out that was a five gs tower. So we over fixed our house. I say over, like more than a normal house with our products. And this is like a home harmonizer that you put on your electric meter, which spreads the field through your house, protecting you from everything outside. So we had to not do one of these, we had to do multiple.
• 40:47
  And so we did multiple of those, felt amazing, her symptoms were gone, and she feels great. And we stayed there in a month to month lease for years before we moved to Charleston. She got rid of chronic fatigue she had since she was four years old, living in a place where the meter said it was terrible, even the voltage meters and the other meters I had said it was a terrible place to be, but it felt calm, amazing. We got healthier and healthier, EMF sensitive people would come over and always say, I love your place, it's so calm and nice, it feels so good in here. Like we had people over Thanksgiving, we laughed because like one relative came in and said that, and then five minutes later, another relative walked in and said that almost verbatim, we were like, high five, good job.
• 41:35
  Anyway, you said some great things. I did a video, you can't really avoid it, so just avoiding is not possible. And the grounding usually makes it better. So grounding is not addressing the root cause, it does not address the subatomic chaos. What it does is, when you have the subatomic chaos, imagine this, grounding is addressing voltage, and voltage is electrical pressure.
• 42:01
  It's just pressure, okay? So when you have more pressure in an environment, the subatomic chaos is worse. And when the pressure is lower, the subatomic chaos is improved, it's better, it's less chaotic. So by grounding properly, you can take the edge off, but you can't get rid of the problem
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: with That makes sense.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: So, and I have all kinds of other very scientific proofs that makes it impossible for voltage to be the answer. A lot of smart people think voltage is the answer because it's a voltage gated calcium channel that's malfunctioning. So like, ah, must be voltage. And when they fix it, they ground, some of them get a little improvement because again, it's like the icing on the cake, but it takes the edge off enough, they go, okay, I feel a little better now, this is good. But it's impossible for it to be the voltage for many reasons.
• 42:53
  One is the calcium channels are malfunctioning, okay? If voltage from an EMF was affecting the voltage gated calcium channel, it would be functioning, you know what I mean? The voltage change would make it work the way it's supposed to. It would balance the charges properly inside versus outside the cell. That's not what's happening.
• 43:15
  It's malfunctioning so that the charges inside versus outside are totally out of whack. So something is causing that to malfunction, not function. That's just an easy way of explaining it. But here's one thing, if you ground outside, it's always good or neutral, okay? Because you are connected to the earth, the earth is a negative charge, and so your positive charge is going right into the earth.
• 43:40
  So is the tree next to you, so is the car, is everything, right? It's all connected to the earth. When you ground inside with grounding mats, just a little caution for your viewers, what you're doing inside is you are connecting yourself to the grounding, the third plug, the third little hole of the plug, and that goes to the grounding rod that goes to the earth. So you're connecting yourself to the earth, lowering the voltage, which is good, but you're also now the easiest way for all of the charges around you to get out. So now you have all these charges that wouldn't be going through you going
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: to Yes. So get
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: that's a negative. So you got a positive and a negative going on. So usually the net outcome is more positive than negative, but ten percent of the time ish, it's the other way, and you actually get worse, you'd be worse off if you ground in some places inside. So that's why I don't like to ground inside. I don't feel like we need it at all.
• 44:42
  When we use our products and we address the root cause, unless there's something else about voltage somebody can show, there's never been anything shown, then I don't think it needs to be addressed. We didn't, and our voltage was off the charts, and we felt amazing.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: So So walk me through that that does make sense, actually. It's kinda like, why do you have a grounding rod? It attracts the lightning. Right? Or it it kind of whether it's you or or lightning rod.
• 45:08
  Right? It it kind of attracts electricity coming to you, so it makes sense how you kinda turn into antenna. So with your with your products, how do they how do they work? Right? Because I've again, I've kinda beat my head against the wall, and my wife has even more so figuring out how we can create a safe environment for our children.
• 45:26
  You know? And to me, Starlink, it might as well be the same as chemtrails. It's like, it doesn't matter how much we stop them from know, you we use air purification. We've got, you know, Triad Air, all these things going on. You step outside, and they're and they're spraying.
• 45:38
  And both my kids, their their noses get stuffy and, you know, eyes are watering. It's just like, god. Like, what do I do about this? Right? To me, it's almost like, you know, Starlink, it's like the they're like EMF chemtrails.
• 45:49
  It's like, I can't stop the satellites up above. So what do we do? How does what what you've discovered in your inventions and your products, how do these address the issue?
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: So going back to that diagram, we're addressing that second domino, okay? We're addressing the subatomic chaos. I'm not gonna tell you the proprietary secrets we have, of course. I can give away so much of what we're doing and so forth. I don't mind explaining that stuff because I can tell all my competitors that they, A, they either don't believe me or B, they can't figure out the solution to actually fixing that anyway.
• 46:29
  But let me give you an analogy. So if you have a mag, you know, an EMF has a magnetic and an electrical field, and they shake so many times a second, like a billion times a second, if you're on a phone call, two and a half and 5,000,000,000 times a second if you're on the internet and so on. So it shakes. The electric and the magnetic field are perpendicular to each other. They vibrate, shake, and it's perpendicular to the direction that the photon is traveling.
• 46:59
  So that's a little bit of the science. So if you had, let's just take the magnetic force. Let's say you had magnetic shaking, like chaos, magnetic chaos, and a force is up and over, and then that way, and then over and then up again, and random amounts in all different directions, that's chaotic, right? Now let's bring a magnet in, boom, I just harmonize that area because the magnet's gonna wanna align forces up, right? So if you're, if this isn't the answer, this is why I can tell you, this is a great analogy.
• 47:37
  So, but if you were like a voltage gated calcium channel, and that was the thing that was messing you up, and then you bring in a magnet, it's gonna go, oh, I'm paying attention to this message, not that chaotic one anymore. So it's gonna not malfunction anymore. And that's kind of what we do. We create with a different product, a field that addresses that subatomic chaos so that your voltage gated calcium channels aren't getting fooled by this shaking and vibrating. And it's a very subtle, small subatomic thing.
• 48:07
  Some people are crazy, can feel it because it's, you know, getting to them. Most people don't feel it, don't recognize it. It's a very, very small force. It's like a million times a millionth of the force of like a strong refrigerator magnet. But the forces of the EMF that are shaking are enough for our calcium channels to get fooled and malfunction.
• 48:34
  So that's kind of an analogy of how our products are working. We're harmonizing the subatomic chaos. Now, when we put this on your smart meter, for instance, this is on a clamp because this might be a pole that goes up with the wires in it, and then your smart meter's here, and so on. So you could just clamp this here, or you could put it on top of your smart meter. So when this is on your smart meter, we use the electric wires to send the field, which is in our products here, which is natural materials in here, into the wires, doesn't even have to be plugged in and touching, just really close to the wires.
• 49:12
  And then the wires travel into every room in your house. So we've created, this field goes into every room in your house. So when the subatomic chaos from something outside goes through your wall and it tries to create that subatomic chaos in your wall, our product has basically smoothed it out, and you don't react to it anymore.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I see. So basically, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have limited electrical know how. I've, you know, fooled around with the, breaker panel, and, you know, I try not to, you know, kill myself by crossing the two twenty wires or something. But if I understand correctly, you're looking at this, is that our house, you know, our electricity comes in, you know, from a power line. It comes into the house.
• 49:53
  Actually, no. It goes underground, actually. This power line, it goes underground either way. It comes into our main breaker. You know, two the two fat wires come in.
• 50:02
  And that's almost like it's almost like, your heart and all your veins and arteries is kinda like the wiring of the house. So it comes in that one spot.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Mhmm.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: And then from there, we've got you've got copper wires that then again, similar to veins, they they kind of vein out all over the entire house, and those veins continue when you plug something in. So you plug in something, it's connecting that. So you basically it's almost like you see the pictures over they take out the nerve they they show the human nervous system with nothing else, and you see it's this really kinda crazy looking or let's say the vascular system. It's just like this heart and all these little wires going everywhere. So that basically is the electrical system of the house.
• 50:42
  Our houses have this copper wire system that goes throughout. So what if I understand correctly, what you are doing is it's not like you have one box over there that emits a radiative know, kind of like a field, like a Wi Fi router, where it's like it creates a bubble. But instead, what you're doing is you're actually then in the same way that we can be used as an antenna, as an antenna and grounding ourselves, everything comes in, you're kind of doing the opposite by tapping into the core kind of spinal cord of the nervous system of the house, and you're then you're harmonizing all that chaos by using the entire wiring and all the plugs and everything in the house to create harmony instead Is of subatomic somewhat that accurate understanding?
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Really well put, actually. So, yeah, that's very well put. So we are creating a field and we're using the wires as a transportation tool and an antenna, like you said, it's literally an antenna. So the subatomic chaos travels really well through metal, like the best, it travels the best through metal, then a little less good through like a hard material, like concrete, and then a little less well, it travels through wood and a lot less well through the air. So it dissipates in the air a lot faster than it, and doesn't travel, it doesn't conduct as well.
• 52:08
  The subatomic chaos is just like our products. Our products field conducts the best through metal, that's why we try to get it to wires if we can, Second best through solid material like concrete and this and that, not as good through dirt, and then a lot less well through the air. So we try to get our product in places that make sense. So we have a chip on the back of your phone, and it's close to the batteries we can get it. That's where we want our chip.
• 52:33
  To the back of the phone is where we put it. So, on my phone, you can see it's just a, it's a kind of a three d ish, but it's real thin chip on the back of the phone. And I just get a little bit of a flex in a case, and then it pops right over it, and it's back there. And this is a pop socket, but you can see it's just underneath of there. So that's what we do.
• 52:56
  We have chips for your laptop, your tablet. Very important is a device chip. This is this little clip that goes on your WiFi router. That's the first thing in the house that almost always needs to be fixed, because that's like the worst culprit in the house. Cell phone and WiFi routers are some of the worst things.
• 53:13
  Smart TVs are making a comeback, they're competing now because they get so strong as well. So smart TVs need this. This is a little chip inside. It's just our solid material. There's a couple of things in here, but we put it in resin.
• 53:29
  And when this is up against the electric wire to your PC or to your router or whatever, it's gonna harmonize that little space. And you'll see if your people know how to do muscle testing, it's a neat way for you to see this stuff really working amazingly too. But this is really important for all of the devices, that's why it's called device chip, that we wanna fix. And our reps, if people call in and ask a rep, what do I need to do first? You know, if they can afford to do everything, do everything.
• 54:00
  There is probably more than 50% chance you will have a testimonial, and we don't fix medical conditions, but there's such a shift in people's lives from yesterday when they're getting hammered with all of this calcium channel imbalance and all the problems that come with it. And all of a sudden that's gone, the stress, the toxic stuff is gone. Their bodies, 25% of the time, you're gonna detox for one to three days as your body's doing things to itself. It's even probably getting a little higher than that, which a lot of people need to hear me say that because detox doesn't feel good. So if you install the products and you sleep worse or you feel worse, it's your body healing itself.
• 54:46
  It's not our products doing it. It's not our products don't work, they're working. And then you'll come out the other side of your normal health at one to three days, and then you're gonna go back to normal or above normal, and you will go, holy cow, haven't slept this good in years or whatever. I mean, dreaming. So many people tell us that they haven't dreamt in years, and then they install our products and they go, I have these deep dreams now.
• 55:11
  And what that hints at to me, I'm no medical doctor dream expert, but you probably weren't deep enough in REM to have good dreams. And now you are, and that's where you need to be. And people don't realize like, if you get tired halfway through today, you made most of your adrenaline that you use today last night when you were sleeping, you should have. But if your body's busy preparing all the DNA damage and free radical damage and all this, you know, EMF stuff, it doesn't have the energy to make the melatonin, to make the adrenaline, to do all the things it's supposed to do when you're sleeping. So halfway through the day, you just burn that wick out.
• 55:50
  It's like, I need coffee. That's, you can't, I don't know how you can be healthy if you don't get good sleep and rest. You know, it's kinda like trying to be a smoker and being the healthiest person you can be. It's like, it doesn't really go together. So better sleep is one of my favorite testimonials because people just feel better.
• 56:13
  Actually, Amy that put me on your show, she tried all these products and all these different things before, and she was sleeping nine hours a day, and you can talk to yourself and having to, you know, get on energy drinks and all this and that, and having issues. Now she sleeps seven and she feels better than she had in years. That's just one of thousands of people telling us the same thing. So if you don't get a testimonial, that's okay. Our products don't specifically do anything to your health.
• 56:43
  It just takes this stress away. And then your body's left with more energy to do with whatever it's gotta do, you know.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: And so this is really fascinating to me because again, like as I mentioned, we've gone down so many different ways in trying to understand how to improve this because we understand how dangerous EMFs are. You know, same way we understand how how dangerous toxic mold is. Like, in my studio right here, which is in my basement, I've got a Triad Air running, you know, in the other part of basement, we've got little mini ozone generators. So we're, you know, we're really serious about quality of life and understanding that our health is actually a product of our of our environment. And if our environment is full of mold and toxins and and chemicals and and EMFs, it's gonna make us sick.
• 57:22
  Right? And so this is really helpful though in understanding it makes sense to me, like, how putting you know, having something on that main kind of line coming into your house can then use all your electrical stuff. In my studio right now, I'm surrounded by, I think, about 12 different monitors. I've got 12 different monitors. I've three different computers running.
• 57:42
  I've got audio equipment running. I've got all kinds of happening here. And I can see it's like that unless, you know, you can invent this kind of magical little device that just absorbs EMF. Right? Like, know, a Shungite pyramid, which you got those floating around, that it's like, what do I do about this?
• 57:59
  But actually, it makes sense now that if you can hit it at the core, which is kinda tap into the its own electrical system and harmonize it at that level, it's gonna make a significant, you know, reduction in these harmful EMFs. And so a question I have for you is, earlier you held up this fancy kinda EMF detector. Right? It's got this little kinda looks like an x wing or something. Mhmm.
• 58:23
  When you when you walk into yeah. There you go. Yep. Looks like a toy I'd play with as a kid.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: EMF meter? Yep.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: So we've got we we bought one. It's, you know, nothing like that. It like on Amazon, maybe a $100 for, you know, because we were testing and seeing because one of the houses we had before had a smart fridge. It's like, holy smokes. Look at this fridge putting off these EMFs.
• 58:42
  Okay? So a typical house you walk through, let's just say my home, right? Someone has already taken steps. I don't live in a big city, taken steps to do this. What are your typical EMF readings that you're getting just walking through before and after the home gets treated with your technology?
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Great question. So first of all, the FDA says that 10,000,000 microwatts per meter squared would be safe. That's on microwave radiation. 10,000,000 microwatts per meter squared. That's our safety guideline.
• 59:17
  How do you pick a 10,000,000 number, they just threw it out out of nowhere. That is so high, it's the highest one in the world. Nobody says that radiation is safe that high. The FCC measures not the amount of radiation, they measure the heat signature, the SAAR rating, like we talked about, specific absorption rate, which is more accurate, but they picked a level that's about the same as the FDA. If you translated it, it would be probably five to 10,000,000 microwatts per meter squared.
• 59:50
  The bio initiative website that I showed you earlier says that then when this goes over six, they see biological effects in their studies, not 600, 6,000, six, okay? So you're surrounded by it. And here's just like, can you see the numbers on the meter? Says 100 and something, right? Seventy, sixty, 50.
• 1:00:14
  So let's just take a cell phone, and I gotta turn it on here. So it's screaming at one. One means it's over 2,000, it's maxed out, it can't go higher. So when I take it away, you'll see it countdown from 2,000 eventually, in 1900, it's So called these cell phones are so high, go to hundreds of thousands of microwatts per meter squared, that's how it heats you. And people don't realize when you're on a cell phone call and you're in your basement, and you're talking to your friend in China or whatever, the radiation not only had to come from the cell tower, five miles in the air, through some trees, then through your wall, the floor, and then it got, some of it got to you, most of it got absorbed on the way.
• 1:01:05
  Some of it got to you. When you talk, how does that cell phone get the message back to the cell tower? It's not magic, it's so strong that the radiation off of that's gotta go through the floor, through the wall, through the tree, travel five miles that the tower picks it up. People don't realize they're walking around with a radiation machine. This is an amazing bit of technology.
• 1:01:28
  And I was the first to get five gs, but if I didn't fix it, I would not own this and my daughter would never pick one up. Okay, she doesn't go out of that house without her band, which is on her wrist now. It used to be on her ankle. It's just one of the products that we use as personal protection. She wears that when she goes out of the house.
• 1:01:46
  I always have a card. It's a different product here. A little card I put in my back pocket. But to answer your question, I just had to go to that side note because people need to realize what the experts say is safe. And then the safety standard guidelines that we're being given are just so high compared.
• 1:02:09
  Now this was my cell phone with a chip on the back, but you saw it skyrocketing on the meter, because we're not blocking the radiation. The meter's not gonna change because we're not blocking the radiation. We're addressing the absorbed radiation, the subatomic chaos, so that we don't react to it anymore.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Makes sense. It's kinda volts versus subatomic chaos. Right?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's not volts. It's measured in, it's like saying miles or kilometers or whatever. You can do microwatts per meter squared, or Tesla, or milliwatts. There's different ways to measure different intensities of different types of frequencies, but this one measures microwatts per meter squared.
• 1:02:54
  Okay, it's just a unit measurement of radiation that goes in the microwave range. So this doesn't measure like the electricity in my house or dirty electricity. This is just measuring like routers and cell phones and things like that. So yeah, if I blocked the cell phone, it would read zero in here, and I also wouldn't have a cell phone that worked. You know what I mean?
• 1:03:17
  So you could wrap your router in aluminum foil three times, and this meter will say no radiation's coming off at you, but then you won't have any internet either. But luckily we don't to block it because that's not the problem. It's the stuff that got absorbed. And that's what our products address uniquely. Nobody on the planet's doing it but us.
• 1:03:38
  And that's why we're having the best result out there in the world.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: It's almost like you're harmonizing it. You're not getting rid of it. Almost like you're neutralizing it.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, neutralizing and harmonizing are great words. I just am a little hesitant to use the word harmonizing because certain scientists or medical doctors who are holistic minded, tried all these harmonizers because they claim to harmonize. It's a word that just got used and thrown around so much. Then now they're comparing our products to these harmonizers. Well, harmonizers don't have the science.
• 1:04:11
  Didn't test it on human cells. They didn't show like everything that we've shown to prove our product's working. So, you mentioned, total side note here, you mentioned mold, and we moved into a new house that already had a mold problem. So I get the mold. Mold's a big issue.
• 1:04:29
  One of my accounts as a practitioner, medical doctor who deals with environmental toxins and mold is like probably his main issue that people are coming in with. And the world is worse off now. So there's a scientist that showed that mold produces 600 times more mycotoxins when near a router or another type of microwave radiation Interesting. Versus in a fairytage. Okay?
• 1:04:59
  So that was a guy that Doctor. Cleanhart talks about. I heard this, read this. So I said, well, great, let's test our products on this. We first did it on bread.
• 1:05:10
  You can see this on my website. We put two pieces of bread next to my router, both in a Ziploc bag, both one spray of water on them. And sure enough, the mold started growing on the part of the bread that was closest to the router first, and then it grew back from there. And the one with our product underneath called a Better Z's, this is a thing that you put under your mattress, looks like a little sandbag or whatever. You put this under your mattress to create the field that we create.
• 1:05:39
  The one with the Better Z's didn't have for thirty days had nothing. The other one I had to throw out of my house in seven days because it was getting so nasty. I was worried that the mold might leak through the bag or something. But this, then we later did a experiment with mold and Petri dishes. So we had two Faraday cages and a Faraday cage for listeners, if they don't know, it's like just a box that blocks EMS from going in or out, Faraday cage.
• 1:06:04
  So you're not having any external factors influence your experiment basically. So we put two petri dishes in a Faraday cage, and in these boxes, we put the same router, it was an Apple router in both of them. And we had mold spores in both, and we watched to see how fast they would grow. And the one with our product in it, you see no visual evidence the same day that this is starting to have colonies that grow. And if you look up close, it's not something I wanna be growing too much in my house.
• 1:06:35
  So I haven't done that. I've done it many times, but I haven't done it so many that I have, like some of our other studies that were done by labs and other things. This is just internal stuff, but so far the evidence suggests strongly that our products are probably protecting people from mold growing and Wow. Getting out of And Doctor. Klinghorn, that mold's getting crazy because anything that attacks mold, it becomes smarter, wiser, and better.
• 1:07:08
  Like if you go after, it's just like antibiotics for bacteria. If you half kill the bacteria, the half that survived is gonna come back stronger than ever. Next time you attack it the same way with the same antibiotic, it's gonna be resistant. Same thing with mole, if you attack it, it comes back stronger. So if you attack it with EMFs, because EMFs are hurting mold, just like it's hurting us, according to Doctor.
• 1:07:32
  Klinghorn, guesses, it's pretty good guess, then they respond by coming back harder and stronger to try to survive. So that may be why our world has a worse mold problem now than five, ten years ago, because we have so many more EMFs in our world, every way, just walking down the street is now at least four, I dare say maybe probably more like 10 times worse now than it was five years ago, just walking down the street. Mold is everywhere and being affected. So I wonder if mold in all these houses that's getting smashed by this stuff is also being worse.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: Crazy.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: We had a problem with a house we moved into, now we fix it, was too late, it was already here. And then we have so many friends that are having these mold dogs go to their houses to try to smell for mold and figure it out, and they're gutting their house. And, you know, I just wonder if it's worse because the EMS that we're putting all over modern society.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: It sounds like, I mean, to me, makes sense. So, I'm sold on this. Like, I'm gonna, you know, obviously I'm gonna I'm gonna get this from my house. Like, at this point, I I can't wait to go tell my wife. It's like, okay.
• 1:08:39
  Hey. Like, here's this is this is what we're gonna do. What's the process look like to me? Because I you've mentioned a lot of different products. I feel like that, obviously, you know, you can go kind of, you know, kinda a la carte, and that was good.
• 1:08:50
  That was good. But it seems like this is something that's, needs some guidance for, you know, kind of, like, a more complete process. So Yeah. What does the process look like? And I know we've got a website set up to Seth EMF, just to make it easy for people, which I'll put in the description.
• 1:09:07
  So Seth EMF is the website that, you know, people can go to, but what does the process look like? Can people can go get, you know, like a few things off the website, like the cell phone thing, which makes sense, like the whole card in your pocket makes perfect sense. But what about someone that says like, okay, look, I wanna do a whole house remediation of this. How do you do that?
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: Well, you need to fix everything if you wanna be a healthy person. That's just the bottom line. That's not salesperson talking. Is just like, know, all of my family, friends, you know, they fix their EMFs. And many of them have testimonials too, and it took that before they believed me.
• 1:09:46
  But if you don't have the budget for it, it's a great, you should go to our website through your site.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: So your emf.com.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: Yep, and then when you get to ours, you click on get a free home test, and that's that green button there. And when you click on that, you go to this page, you fill it out, one of our certified EMS specialists, a trained person, will call you, contact you. And if they're close enough to you, sometimes they are, they can come to your house and literally they use three meters and they show you how much EMF is in your home, coming off your router, your cell phone in your home. And we like to do the thing with the meters, not for the before and after, because we talked about that, it's to show people how serious and severe this problem is. When you see the meters, I mean, the meters are being maxed out.
• 1:10:39
  That's how fast the amount of radiation coming off of our products go. The meters, some of them aren't even keeping up with the technology because it's just so much. So when you see it, you realize that this isn't some kind of scare tactic thing that somebody's talking about on the internet, like it's real, it's in your house, it's going on, it's invisible, but now you see it with the meter's eyes. So we like to do that, but if they're not close enough where they can come to your house and it's a free home test, literally when they come to your house, they'll test it, they'll give you the results, they'll you suggestions, they'll talk to you and it's literally costs you nothing. But if they are not close enough to drive to your house, they'll give you a free consultation.
• 1:11:18
  And that is valuable because you can bounce any question you still have off of them and say, Hey, how long is this gonna last? Or how do I know it's working? Or any question, bounce it off of them, make sure you feel good before you go buy anything. And then if you have a budget, you can say, I can't afford to fix my house, but I got this. And they'll say, well, get these three products for that amount of money.
• 1:11:41
  And that's gonna be like half of your battle right there. And so they'll know what to tell you to get first. It's usually fixing your cell phone, a personal product and fixing your area where you sleep, but they'll tell you what's the most important and you'll go from there. Click on the free home text. Yeah.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: It makes sense. It makes sense. Okay. So sethemf.com takes you here. Obviously, you've got a lot of information, which is great.
• 1:12:09
  That's the that's my sense with you too, is that, you know, I've seen there's a lot of people, they have, oh, we've got this magical Shungite thing. It's like, okay, in theory, it sounds good, but my sense in talking to you is that you're very scientific in your thinking. You you actually, more engineering based in your thinking, and that you're not gonna say something does something unless you've proved it 10 times over that does something. So here, though, your website, education, testimonials yeah. I mean, I'm looking forward to reading these, actually.
• 1:12:39
  Well, you weren't joking about testimonials either.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: That's only a fraction. I have like hundreds on my cell phone. Many I can't put because anything that's linked or suggests at all a medical condition or disease, I don't put them on the website. We are very careful to not be practicing medicine without You a
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: put like XXX, right? You won't even mention what ailment
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: will I X it out, or I just won't even put it on there. So these are just about a 100 or 150 or something testimonials of better sleep, more energy, and a couple other things like, you know, pains going away and different things. I wish I could show all, but, you know, we're just, that's the ones we safely show, and it's very common. And you see a lot of these are practitioners and all kinds of people. A lot of them are practitioners.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: What I'm seeing, just getting through here, I'm seeing over and over again is people saying, I had the best sleep ever, right? Here you go. The day after you left, I had a lot of energy. I never rested and napped that day, which is unusual for me. I took my son son on a long walk on the beach.
• 1:13:41
  I was doing so up till 10PM, more energy, more alert. My sleep overall focus has improved. Great night's sleep. I slept longer last night, which is something I've been desperately needed. Interesting.
• 1:13:55
  Here's this is funny. Unexpected. My cat seems to be way more energetic and present since you did your magic. He's 14 years old and has been sleeping a lot, he sleeps by the Wi Fi box. Actually, which is common.
• 1:14:05
  Actually, animals often sleep by the Wi Fi because it's warm. They like that. So
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: What's weird, cats tend to sleep by the WiFi. It's like it's like they're on guard and alert or something. Dogs tend to be away from it.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: Interesting. So well, I mean, so, Corey, this has been this has been great. I I learned a ton. Again, I'll make sure that we put the the link in the description. Just seth e m f.
• 1:14:30
  Easy to remember. But, yeah, thank you for this. I'll be I'll be in touch with you afterwards. I'll fill out the home test. My wife's gonna be happy with this, but, yeah, this is what you presented to me based upon all the research I've done, like, it it fits.
• 1:14:45
  It makes sense to me, actually. It's not some magical woo woo stuff or, like, a little patch that has prayers on it that makes you feel better. It's it's real science. So, appreciate what you're doing. I appreciate you giving me your time today.
• 1:14:59
  And yeah, I'm looking forward to getting this set up. Like, this is good. Then you'll have my testimonial. Then maybe once I set it up and, you know, give it, like, a couple of weeks, we'll do a show again, which I always love doing that because I I like being the guinea pig. If I'm gonna say, hey.
• 1:15:11
  I'm gonna try this. I try it. And I'll come back and I'll say, hey. I did a liver cleanse, and this is what came out of my body. This is you know what mean?
• 1:15:17
  So I I dive into those things.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: I got on Daystar TV, which is out of Austin, Texas multiple times, because they used our products after trying a bunch of stuff, she was getting wasted tired during the day, because they have a huge cell tower next to them, huge power lines, plus their TV station. So all of that, they were just demolished. She said halfway through the day at work, was wasted, tired, just destroyed, but I'd travel, which is bad EMS, and she felt better. She's like, so she finally used our products, got a testimonial, got a call, the Amazon. So that's a lot of times how we've grown, is just people spreading the word because of all the testimonials, which is really amazing.
• 1:16:18
  But if you don't get a testimony, I'll tell people. I showed you that first, the blood under microscope, Kathy, who's a manager of ours, she didn't feel any different. I fixed her house. Her daughter had better sleep. She didn't feel any different, but she went to her doctor and her doctor showed the blood, you know, with and without the cell chip on the phone.
• 1:16:38
  And she was like, she called me and said, Can I work for you guys? So that's how that started. But you don't have to feel a difference because we are not fixing health conditions. Your body's gonna have extra energy with this toxin way lowered. I mean, we can lower it if we properly fix a house to almost nothing, almost zero.
• 1:16:58
  And if it's like that, most people will feel a shift in their body. Now, by the way, she can tell, she's actually got some testimonials now, it took a while. Interesting, Enough seeing so many others that she's excited, but even the people that don't have a testimonial, it still works. Like, cells in a petri dish showed this damage happening every time, and then it got fixed.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Makes sense. Makes sense. Well, Corey, thank you for giving us your time today. It's been really nice speaking
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: Thanks thanks for having me
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: so much. Absolutely.