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What will happen with Lamar Jackson & Daniel Jones? Cowboys CAP situation; Super Bowl champion Willie Gay Jr. · NFL Now

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Speaker 1: a thousand times. There is no off season. Welcome to
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Speaker 1: NFL Network. From our newsroom in Los Angeles. My name
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Speaker 1: is Andrews Siciliano. Coming up, We're going to talk to
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Speaker 1: a couple of guys who a week ago we're hoisting
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Speaker 1: the Lombardi Trophy, had a pretty fun parade. Willie Gay
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Speaker 1: and Trent McDuffie, two key pieces of that chief's defense,
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Speaker 1: said to join us a little bit later. I say
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Speaker 1: there is no offseason. Today's a perfect example of a
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Speaker 1: window opening, and it is news. Today is the very
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Speaker 1: first day that teams can apply the franchise tag to
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Speaker 1: their soon to be free agents. Let's start, say in Baltimore,
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Speaker 1: where there is a certain quarterback set to hit free agency,
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Speaker 1: but we all always likely not to get to total
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Speaker 1: free agency. Tom Delasero, Mike Giardi, James Palmer with me.
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's contract is up, so you would have to
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Speaker 1: think that in these fourteen days, if they can't get
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Speaker 1: a deal done. The Ravens Tom we've reported would use
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Speaker 1: that tag. But if you use that tag, then does
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Speaker 1: that help or hurt a long term deal? Give us
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Speaker 1: the latest on Lamar jacks under all options remain on
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Speaker 1: the table for Lamar Jackson, the Ravens who have been
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Speaker 1: trying to get a long term deal done for over
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Speaker 1: a year now. There are two different types of franchise tags,
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Speaker 1: and which one the Ravens would ultimately apply may give
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Speaker 1: you a window in what direction they anticipate this going.
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Speaker 1: The first one is the exclusive franchise tag, which would
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Speaker 1: prevent Jackson from negotiating with any other team. That would
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Speaker 1: also give the Ravens the ability to potentially shop and
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Speaker 1: figure out what type of trade market there is for
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, although he would have veto power over any
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Speaker 1: trade because he would need to sign that franchise tender
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Speaker 1: to facilitate a deal. The other option is the non
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Speaker 1: exclusive franchise tag, which would allow Jackson to negotiate with
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Speaker 1: other teams. That took algo a couple of different directions here.
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Speaker 1: If Lamar would end up signing an offer sheet with
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Speaker 1: a different team, the Ravens could match it, basically having
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Speaker 1: let some other team do their dirty work. And getting
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Speaker 1: a deal done with Jackson, or if they did not
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Speaker 1: match it, then they could let him go for two
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Speaker 1: first round picks. March seventh is the deadline for applying
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Speaker 1: that tag. As you mentioned, I would anticipate and they
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Speaker 1: certainly planned to apply that tag if there's no breakthrough
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Speaker 1: in the negotiations. But what that means moving forward at
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Speaker 1: that point would be both in the Ravens and in
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Speaker 1: Lamar's hands. Tom It's been very interesting, right because I
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Speaker 1: felt like last year going into the offseason that the
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Speaker 1: Ravens and Lamar Jackson appeared to be in a better place,
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Speaker 1: and then the way this year went with the injuries
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Speaker 1: and he's going to be back in one to three weeks,
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Speaker 1: and then he never came back, and some of the
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Speaker 1: chances that John Harbaugh had to sort of snuff out
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Speaker 1: any possibility that they were some discord between the two sides.
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Speaker 1: Bothers me a little bit, and I think Lamar has
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Speaker 1: with no representation, you're not necessarily getting his side of
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Speaker 1: the story. Occasionally he comes out on social media and
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Speaker 1: says something. He said some things and then takes them down,
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Speaker 1: like where is he at? Does he still want to
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Speaker 1: be a Baltimore Raven. And to your point on the tags,
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Speaker 1: the non exclusive one is interesting to me because yes,
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Speaker 1: you can set the tone and something, you can match
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Speaker 1: that deal. But two first round picks for Lamar Jackson
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Speaker 1: after what Russell Wilson just went for, Like, that's a
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Speaker 1: roll of the dice, and are you willing to just
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Speaker 1: let Lamar walk for two first knowing by the way
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Speaker 1: that well, if Lamar's on that team and he's healthy,
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Speaker 1: that team's gonna be pretty good. And using the exclusive
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Speaker 1: franchise tag is clearly more expensive time you just laid
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Speaker 1: that out, but it also gives you the opportunity and
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Speaker 1: both tags gives you the opportunity if the player is
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Speaker 1: willing to sign that tag about working your own deal out,
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Speaker 1: so you can put that tag on and do a
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Speaker 1: deal for less than two number ones for more than
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Speaker 1: two number ones. But obviously when you put the tag down,
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Speaker 1: it sends a message to the player. Here if you
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Speaker 1: say is a non exclusive tag, that go ahead, look
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Speaker 1: around and then you have to work through that damage.
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Speaker 1: They're moving forward, all right. You can only use one
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Speaker 1: franchise tag. You can't put it on two players. So
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Speaker 1: when you have a team, say Tom like the New
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Speaker 1: York Giants that have a quarterback and Daniel Jones, and
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Speaker 1: a running back like say Quon Barkley, who are both
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Speaker 1: hitting free agency. There is a bit of a conundrum.
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Speaker 1: What's the latest there? Well again, Andrew, you got two
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Speaker 1: weeks now to figure something out, and as you mentioned,
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Speaker 1: you can only use one tag between the two of them.
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Speaker 1: In a perfect world, the Giants, Shirley would try to
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Speaker 1: work out that long term deal with Daniel Jones, given
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Speaker 1: it the franchise tag number for quarterbacks upwards a thirty
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Speaker 1: two million dollars, and as you see, the running back
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Speaker 1: number is barely ten million dollars that would be applied
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Speaker 1: to a say Quon Barkley. However, Daniel Jones certainly is
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Speaker 1: aware and so is say Quon Barkley and their representatives
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Speaker 1: that the Giants have to tag one of them, that
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Speaker 1: can only take one of them, and ideally would get
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Speaker 1: a deal done with the other one. Most quarterback deals
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Speaker 1: that have gotten done, if you look over the last
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Speaker 1: couple of years, have started with a four. It's been
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Speaker 1: upwards of forty million dollars per year. If Jones were
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Speaker 1: to get tagged and then tagged a second time, we're
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Speaker 1: tired about making seventy million dollars over two years. So
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Speaker 1: the downside for Jones potentially and not taking whatever the
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Speaker 1: best offer is on a long term deal is still
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Speaker 1: pretty decent. And that would also move him closer to
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Speaker 1: unfettered free agency. So I would certainly anticipate the Giants
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Speaker 1: will continue negotiating on both fronts. Jones has recently changed
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Speaker 1: representation as well, and so we'll see what direction that goes.
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Speaker 1: But the clock is ticking, yeah, And usually you change
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Speaker 1: representation because you think that the other agent can get
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Speaker 1: you more money than your current agent. That generally things
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Speaker 1: see how these things work. So maybe Daniel Jones does
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Speaker 1: see the four in front of it and says that's
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Speaker 1: where I belong at this point in my career. But
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Speaker 1: just a year ago, the Giants pretty much told you
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Speaker 1: that they weren't sure, and they didn't extend him, they
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Speaker 1: didn't give pick up the fifth year option, and they
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Speaker 1: put him in this place. And if you watch the
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Speaker 1: way they played this year, they manage Daniel Jones, and
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Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that because he did a nice
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Speaker 1: job being managed by Brian Dayball. But it doesn't appear
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Speaker 1: to me like Daniel Jones is the guy that elevates
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Speaker 1: your team to the next place that you need more
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Speaker 1: pieces around him. And this is a roster quite frankly
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Speaker 1: that still is shy of a lot of pieces at
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Speaker 1: this point, and maybe committing that much of that much
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Speaker 1: money to Daniel Jones doesn't make sense when you could
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Speaker 1: probably get someone significantly cheaper and get similar production. Right,
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Speaker 1: It's fascinating. And again it's a two week window here.
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Speaker 1: How do you use the tag? On? Whom do you
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Speaker 1: use the tag? And then teams have until Midsummer. Really
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Speaker 1: it's almost until training camp July fifteenth to work out
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Speaker 1: a long term deal with the players that they have tag.
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Speaker 1: You could also rescind the tag. We saw that years
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Speaker 1: ago with Dave Gentleman and Josh Norman and Carolina with
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Speaker 1: a corner eventually ended up in Washington. The numbers are
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Speaker 1: really interesting. I mean, depending on the position, the running
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Speaker 1: back number tom is not really high. I mean it's
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Speaker 1: ten million. So how about the curious case of Josh Jacobs,
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Speaker 1: guy who led the league in rushing? What's his story? Lander?
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Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs is not only the league leader in rushing,
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Speaker 1: but he's also a core part of what they're trying
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Speaker 1: to build programmatically right now with the Raiders, so absolutely
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Speaker 1: anticipate the Raiders will try to get something done with
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Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs. If they can't, then the franchise tag is
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Speaker 1: certainly an option. You mentioned it that ten million dollars
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Speaker 1: number is relatively reasonable, especially compared to other positions here,
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Speaker 1: So you could see other running backs, whether it's a
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Speaker 1: Tony Pollard among others, who potentially could end up getting
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Speaker 1: tagged as well. So let's talk about the Commanders in
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Speaker 1: their situation with Dron Payne, who, as Ron Rivera said recently,
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Speaker 1: they're fine with the fact that by declining his fifth
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Speaker 1: year option that they got the best out of drown
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Speaker 1: Pain they thought last season, but it now puts him
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Speaker 1: in a position where he could be looking at well
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Speaker 1: upwards a twenty five million dollars per year on a
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Speaker 1: long term extension. If they can't get that done, then
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Speaker 1: the franchise tag, which will be a ride around nineteen
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Speaker 1: million dollars for a defensive lineman, would potentially become an
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Speaker 1: option for him as well. Then he got the Kansas
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Speaker 1: City Chief Orlando Brown Junior, who was their franchise tag
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Speaker 1: player a year ago of course, they acquired him from
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Speaker 1: the Ravens. He wanted to play left tackle, is a
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Speaker 1: tribute to his father, also felt that was his best position,
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Speaker 1: got that opportunity. They did not get a deal done
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Speaker 1: in advance, ended up tagging him last year. A second
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Speaker 1: tag this year would cost nearly twenty million dollars for
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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs and also put them in a
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Speaker 1: position where while you can tag a player a third time,
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Speaker 1: the number is so astronomical that that rarely happened. So
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Speaker 1: can they get a deal done with Orlando Brown Junior
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Speaker 1: this time around? They'd made what they thought was a
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Speaker 1: strong offer last year, he opted to bet on himself,
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Speaker 1: wanted more guaranteed money. If they can't get it done,
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Speaker 1: then there is that possibility in a couple of weeks
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Speaker 1: here the Brown could end up being tagged again as well.
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Speaker 1: And that seems like the most likely outcome right now
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Speaker 1: where this stands, because if you remember last year when
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Speaker 1: they tagged him, and you mentioned that they made a
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Speaker 1: strong offer in their mind to where they thought the
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Speaker 1: value was was not very close to where Orlando Brown
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Speaker 1: valued himself, and that's why he went out and bet
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Speaker 1: on himself. But what goes on in this offensive line
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Speaker 1: this offseason and moving forward is the interesting part of
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Speaker 1: how Brett Beach has to navigate this group that he
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Speaker 1: rebuilt so well to protect Patrick Mahomes because there's Orlando
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Speaker 1: Brown on the left side, which teams like the Bengals
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Speaker 1: thought he was the weak link on this offensive line
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Speaker 1: heading into that AFC title game, but obviously he played
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Speaker 1: very well there, played well in the Super Bowl against
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Speaker 1: Brandon Graham protecting Patrick Mahomes. But their other tackle and
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Speaker 1: Andrew Wiley, also a free agent at the right tackle spot,
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Speaker 1: who played brilliantly against a Son Reddick in the Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl and only cost them two point two million dollars
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Speaker 1: a year ago. You would assume that number is going
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Speaker 1: to go. Patrick Mahomes thinks the world of Andrew Wiley,
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Speaker 1: and then Andrew on the interior side, they think Creed
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Speaker 1: Humphreys is one of the best centers in all of football.
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Speaker 1: Trey Smith, the right guard, they believe is the most
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Speaker 1: talented guy of this group, and Joe Tooney kind of
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Speaker 1: the leader of this group. And cat number jumps up
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Speaker 1: to twenty two million after it was about eight million
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Speaker 1: this past season because the second half of his contract
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Speaker 1: kicking in some money down the road, and other spots
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Speaker 1: on this offensive line should be coming in. It's gonna
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Speaker 1: be interesting to see how Brett Beach values Orlando Brown
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Speaker 1: this office season as he weighs in the next offseason
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Speaker 1: after the twenty twenty three year, where he has to
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Speaker 1: look at Creed Humphrey and Trey Smith in terms of
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Speaker 1: possible contract those guys still on rookie contracts, Joe Tuney
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Speaker 1: as they rebuilt that line after the loss of the
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Speaker 1: Bucketeers in the Super Bowl, reset the market for interior lineman.
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Speaker 1: But as you said, that number creeps up in later years.
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Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Tom, Mike James. Stick around for
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Speaker 1: a second of the flicker. The chief still a little
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Speaker 1: bit deeper here because this guy, the guy that went
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Speaker 1: down on the one yard line, that foot almost touched
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Speaker 1: the goal line, by the way, now that it would
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Speaker 1: have mattered, the ball was not there. Jack McKinnon is
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Speaker 1: also looking at free agency after his day and the
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Speaker 1: sun by not scoring. You know, like I've been saying,
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Speaker 1: we prized that played every week, and I talked to
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Speaker 1: a couple of guys before the preade. I don't think
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Speaker 1: everybody really knew what was going on until I haven't.
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Speaker 1: But you know, this is one of those things that
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Speaker 1: you know, I didn't really think too much of it
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Speaker 1: because it's just that's how we were coached, that's how
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Speaker 1: Coachree coaches us. That player came up. Um. Obviously I
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Speaker 1: don't understand the magnitude of it until after it happened. UM.
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Speaker 1: And then you go to see everybody else's reactions, Like
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Speaker 1: I said, man, it's all been a blessing. Um. You
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Speaker 1: know some people have been asking, oh, how would have
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Speaker 1: quarterfoowers you? Oh? Yeah, I mean I get both sides,
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Speaker 1: but UM, you know, it wasn't even a hesitation in
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Speaker 1: my mind to score once I knew what situation we
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Speaker 1: were in. UM, And I said, man, it's been a blessing. Man.
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Speaker 1: And all the reactions from the fans, the people, UM,
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Speaker 1: you know, I couldn't ask for anything better. Andy Reid's
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Speaker 1: really rotated through the backs over the years there in
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Speaker 1: Kansas City and in Philadelphia as well. But James Eric McKinnon,
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Speaker 1: especially out of the backfield, the guy scored nine of
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Speaker 1: his ten touchdowns catching the football this year has something
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Speaker 1: special With Patrick Mahomes, It really does. Andrew and maybe
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Speaker 1: we couldn't find my interview with Jerrick McKinnon standing on
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Speaker 1: that spot after the game of the Super Bowl. I
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Speaker 1: don't know, but we just went no, no no, no, no dreams.
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Speaker 1: I get it. It was a great interview. We just
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Speaker 1: went this was like only a day old. There something new,
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Speaker 1: you know, of course, of course, but I'm gonna tie
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Speaker 1: this together. He told me. Andre told me it's like church.
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Speaker 1: It's every single week they go over this. Because I said,
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Speaker 1: did you make the decision or did the coaching staff
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Speaker 1: make the decision? Or did it happen in the huddle?
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Speaker 1: He said, no decision had to be made. This is
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Speaker 1: where we're taught each and every week to go out
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Speaker 1: and make plays in these situations because we study and
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Speaker 1: practice these situations. And that's where the value that you're
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Speaker 1: mentioning comes in and the values in the dollars as well.
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Speaker 1: As we break down this offseason, as he's said to
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Speaker 1: be a free agent and cost him over a little
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Speaker 1: more than a million dollars this year, as you mentioned
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Speaker 1: leading all running backs and touchdown caches, it's because Patrick
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Speaker 1: Mahomes believes in him as another quarterback on the field
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Speaker 1: and how he sees defenses, how he sees the game.
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Speaker 1: This is a perfect example of Jeric mckins value from
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid and this coaching staff to
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Speaker 1: what he brings to the entire offense. And we'll see
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Speaker 1: what happens this offseason. He's thirty one years old, but
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Speaker 1: I do know there's some loyalty there with the Kansas
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Speaker 1: City Chiefs. In Jerick McKinnon's mind, two years ago, when
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Speaker 1: he was leaving San Francisco, he thought his career was over.
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Speaker 1: He told me this. After the AFC Championship game, he
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Speaker 1: got one phone call and that was from Chiefs general
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Speaker 1: manager Brett Veach to bring him in. That was the
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Speaker 1: only interest he had in the league. So let's see
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Speaker 1: what happens this offseason. Because Jerick McKinnon was a brilliant
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Speaker 1: player for the Chiefs in terms of what he did
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Speaker 1: in plays like that and also in protection of Patrick
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Speaker 1: Mahomes as well as catching and running the football out
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Speaker 1: of the backfield, specifically at the price tag he played on. Yeah, James,
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Speaker 1: he certainly earned himself a raise, right and the question
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Speaker 1: is does he want to chase every last dollar, which
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Speaker 1: is his right and no one would begrudge him for that.
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Speaker 1: Or does he want to stay in a situation where
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Speaker 1: certainly they're the defending champs, the reigning Chaps, right, and
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Speaker 1: a chance to win more. How does he value that?
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Speaker 1: But I think it's interesting you bring up the point
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Speaker 1: about how Patrick feels about how the coaching staff feels
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Speaker 1: about him. How about his teammates. Isaiah Pacheco, who obviously
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Speaker 1: was so valuable for this team in the second half
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Speaker 1: of the season end of the postseason, gives a lot
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Speaker 1: of credit to McKinnon for helping him settle in and understand, like, look,
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna play running back here, you have to
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Speaker 1: understand how to defend Patrick. You have to be able
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Speaker 1: to pick up lets. Otherwise you don't get on the field.
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Speaker 1: And he progressed light years from where he was at
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Speaker 1: the start of his season to the way he finished
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Speaker 1: the year. And he said it's because of McKinnon, because
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Speaker 1: McKinnon put it in the work with him. So that's
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Speaker 1: someone who's willing to sacrifice, maybe for some of his
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Speaker 1: own playing time to get this guy up to speed.
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Speaker 1: That's a terrific teammate. That's someone who has I said,
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Speaker 1: has earned himself a raise. I'm vicorious to see where
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Speaker 1: he goes, because I know there are a lot of teams,
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Speaker 1: including one in my backyard, that could use a pass
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Speaker 1: catching back, and McKinnon certainly is that all right? Look
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Speaker 1: into the money here. You talk about deserving a raise.
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Speaker 1: You could argue Patrick Mahomes deserves a race as well, James.
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Speaker 1: He's set to make just let's see, forty point five
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Speaker 1: million dollars this coming season after a second MVP. And
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Speaker 1: as dangerous as this may sound to the rest of
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Speaker 1: the NFL, he appears to be a player that is ascending.
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Speaker 1: He really is. And I got a chance to talk
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Speaker 1: to one of the people that have been around him
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Speaker 1: since he came the starter really in Kansas City, and
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Speaker 1: that's assistant quarterback coach David Girardi, who probably is expected
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Speaker 1: to move up to quarterback coach if everything falls with
15:13
Speaker 1: Matt Nackie becoming the future offensive coordinator for the Kansas
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Speaker 1: City Chiefs. And Dartie told me the thing that gets
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Speaker 1: overlooked is that he is just as good of a
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Speaker 1: pocket passer as he is when he's outside of the
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Speaker 1: pocket and creating. It just gets overshadowed because of those
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Speaker 1: splash plays and how we value looking at all of those,
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Speaker 1: and he said, the biggest thing that happened is obviously
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Speaker 1: the natural growth that has happened. He sees defenses so well,
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Speaker 1: He sees everything in terms of how the offense operates
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Speaker 1: so well. He's able to do that in just a
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Speaker 1: natural growth over the years, but also the new pieces
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Speaker 1: Andrew that joined him really sped up that growth in
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Speaker 1: the coaching staff's mind. And now he took another step
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Speaker 1: this past year and how he manipulates protections, how he
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Speaker 1: manipulates the play calls all at the line of scrimmage
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Speaker 1: because he sees it all so much quicker. We saw
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Speaker 1: with the ankle injury and how he had to be
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Speaker 1: limited in his mobility a little bit. They weren't worried
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Speaker 1: at all by that because of the pot to passer
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Speaker 1: that he is becoming and growing into each and every year.
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Speaker 1: We love those splash plays, but he's not relying on
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Speaker 1: them as he did in previous years, including that previous
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Speaker 1: MVP season. He had a long conversation with Chad Henny
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Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl along the same lines, right, and
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Speaker 1: he said, one of the things that's really impressed about
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Speaker 1: Pat as he's continued to grow as a quarterback is
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Speaker 1: now understanding the rhythm and the timing of the offense.
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Speaker 1: And he said, so when you combine that his understanding
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Speaker 1: of that with ability to make all the throws, he said,
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Speaker 1: now you go to a different place. And he was
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Speaker 1: already at a pretty unreachable place, but now he feels
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Speaker 1: like he's gotten even better. And I think that bore
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Speaker 1: out this year. And actually, you know, you lose someone
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Speaker 1: like Tyreek Hill that they've said it. He's a generational talent.
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Speaker 1: He had a phenomenal year in Miami, was important to them,
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Speaker 1: but he had to throw him the ball ten, twelve,
16:50
Speaker 1: fifteen times to keep him happy. With this group, Yes,
16:53
Speaker 1: Kelsey gets targets right, but by and large spread it out,
16:56
Speaker 1: grow it to the guy that's open and not have
16:58
Speaker 1: to worry about coming to the sidelines and possibly your
17:01
Speaker 1: star receiver blowing up. And we did see that a
17:03
Speaker 1: few times. And you know, Tyreek, it's a competitive guy.
17:05
Speaker 1: So it's pad. I think it made their offense better
17:08
Speaker 1: and allow them to attack defenses differently. And I'm curious
17:11
Speaker 1: now to see how they go with that receiving corps
17:13
Speaker 1: moving forward, Moving forward, with the start of the new
17:16
Speaker 1: league year coming up, mid March. We are three weeks
17:20
Speaker 1: away now and right now in the two week window
17:23
Speaker 1: for franchise tags. Thank you James, Thank you Mike. Carolina
17:28
Speaker 1: Panthers of a top ten pick, they're looking at a quarterback.
17:30
Speaker 1: Might that guy who is currently a free agent because
17:33
Speaker 1: the Raiders cut him, He has visited the Saints, he
17:35
Speaker 1: has visited the Jets. Might that guy be an option
17:39
Speaker 1: for Frank Reich in Carolina? Derek Carr is available, Will
17:46
Speaker 1: you guys bring him in on a visit? You know,
17:48
Speaker 1: interesting question. You know. We're really literally sitting down with
17:52
Speaker 1: the guys today for staff first staff meeting. It will
17:54
Speaker 1: be tomorrow, but I've kind of met with guys individually saying, Okay,
17:57
Speaker 1: here's what we're doing. First. Step one, let's evaluate our roster,
18:01
Speaker 1: you know, so we're really just starting that process. So
18:04
Speaker 1: step two, evaluate the free agents. You know, everybody got
18:08
Speaker 1: their list. Okay. Step three now, you know, going to
18:12
Speaker 1: the college guys. So that process has literally begun. So
18:15
Speaker 1: really not ready to address the specifics of that because
18:18
Speaker 1: we're really just beginning. I mean, he didn't say no.
18:22
Speaker 1: That was Frank Reich on the podium this morning in Charlotte. Meantime,
18:25
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiahs newmock draft is out version two point zero,
18:27
Speaker 1: guaranteed to be one percent accurate. He doesn't have Carolina
18:31
Speaker 1: going a quarterback in the first round. He has Peter
18:33
Speaker 1: Scronsky of the north Western o Lineman complay outside, can
18:36
Speaker 1: play Inside as the ninth overall pick. But look at
18:40
Speaker 1: five and look at three. DJ has Will Anderson falling
18:45
Speaker 1: to the Seahawks. He has Tyree Wilson as the first
18:50
Speaker 1: edge guy off the board at three to Arizona. And
18:53
Speaker 1: by the way, he specifically says check it out on
18:56
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com that he is not yet doing trades.
18:59
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Speaker 1: Coming up next, the latest from Dallas of the Cowboys.
19:25
Speaker 1: Probably don't use their tag, but there is still Cowboy
19:28
Speaker 1: News regardless. Right ahead, let's start the interception to the
19:37
Speaker 1: left and Prescott's picked off unrecepted or shopter ahead has
19:40
Speaker 1: a receptions and over the middle it's intercepted again. The
19:43
Speaker 1: only way to keep going is by responding. Whatever happened
19:46
Speaker 1: last play really doesn't matter. It's all about the next play.
19:48
Speaker 1: I wish, how great do we want to be? Felt fresh?
19:53
Speaker 1: Scott steps up and heaps it. What a craft spin
19:56
Speaker 1: that is it? Touchdown Cowboys move forward to this last game.
20:03
Speaker 1: In all these playoff games, every drive matters. We have
20:05
Speaker 1: to play every play, every draft I guess to win
20:07
Speaker 1: the game. Touchdown. That's the reality of it when you
20:10
Speaker 1: get into the postseason. Another disappointing exit for the Dallas
20:17
Speaker 1: Cowboys this year in the postseason, at least that won
20:19
Speaker 1: a game this time, or they went down to Tampa
20:20
Speaker 1: handle the Buccaneers blew them out of their building. But
20:23
Speaker 1: then you know what happened in San Francisco against the
20:26
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, where the offense simply didn't do the
20:29
Speaker 1: job and Dack through a couple of picks, and once
20:31
Speaker 1: again we're left wondering what could have been with the
20:34
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. We had a free agency NFL now takes
20:37
Speaker 1: a deeper look down with Chains Slater live in Dallas,
20:40
Speaker 1: hide their chain. Most notably the biggest change as they
20:43
Speaker 1: get ready to head to the Combine. It's a new
20:46
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and a new play caller for the Cowboys.
20:50
Speaker 1: So many changes to this coaching staff. Andrew and at midday,
20:54
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of us expected this many. Now,
20:56
Speaker 1: there were a number of coaches on expiring contracts, but
20:58
Speaker 1: the Kellen Moore thing was definitely curious. There's going to
21:01
Speaker 1: be a press conference this week where we're going to
21:03
Speaker 1: deep dive a little bit more with Mike McCarthy as
21:05
Speaker 1: he introduces some of these new coaches. But big change
21:08
Speaker 1: there if you think about it. Dak Prescott has been
21:10
Speaker 1: in that quarterbacks room as either a teammate or coached
21:14
Speaker 1: by Kellen Moore since he got here seven seasons ago.
21:17
Speaker 1: He hasn't really gotten into what this offense is going
21:20
Speaker 1: to look like, but he did give a little insight
21:22
Speaker 1: to my colleague and French jury Epstein with Yahoo Sports
21:25
Speaker 1: when he said the offense is expected to change about
21:28
Speaker 1: twenty to thirty percent. He says it allows them to
21:30
Speaker 1: get things a little crisper, a little cleaner, and again
21:33
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy will be calling the plays, but he hasn't
21:36
Speaker 1: done this since twenty eighteen, so we'll have a lot
21:39
Speaker 1: of questions for him this week. He's gonna have a
21:41
Speaker 1: lot more on his plate. But that is going to
21:44
Speaker 1: be the situation, at least offensively, is they try to
21:46
Speaker 1: get more out of that side of the ball. They
21:48
Speaker 1: just didn't feel like they were able to create last season,
21:50
Speaker 1: and they try to as we get ready for the
21:52
Speaker 1: combine and head towards free agency, figure out what they're
21:54
Speaker 1: going to do and running back the guaranteed money on
21:56
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott's contract is all but gone. Tony Pollard has
21:59
Speaker 1: proven to be a legit number one weapon. They got
22:02
Speaker 1: to figure that out as well. Jane any insight, Yeah,
22:06
Speaker 1: here's what I do know. I'm confident that Tony Pollard
22:09
Speaker 1: will be wearing the Star next year. Now how he'll
22:11
Speaker 1: be doing that is going to be interesting. They of
22:12
Speaker 1: course have the option of franchise tagging him. That window,
22:15
Speaker 1: of course opened up today. I anticipate they'll do a
22:18
Speaker 1: little negotiation before they have to slap it on there,
22:21
Speaker 1: which is March seventh, and then even after the fact
22:23
Speaker 1: they can still work on a long term deal. That
22:25
Speaker 1: franchise tag for Pollard would be about ten million dollars.
22:28
Speaker 1: You know, he is coming off the broken leg and
22:30
Speaker 1: the high ankle sprain. So do they evaluate him next
22:34
Speaker 1: year with that franchise tag or do they do themselves
22:37
Speaker 1: a favor get a long term deal before he starts
22:39
Speaker 1: to cost of too much money and then that also
22:42
Speaker 1: allows them a little bit more flexibility as it relates
22:44
Speaker 1: to the payroll. Now we talk about Ezekiel Elliott, that
22:48
Speaker 1: one is a little bit trickier. Talking to a couple
22:50
Speaker 1: of my sources, they're being pretty tight lipped on this thing.
22:54
Speaker 1: But in talking to Zeke's side, he wants to remain
22:56
Speaker 1: in Dallas. I don't think he wants necessarily an Emmett
22:59
Speaker 1: Smith situation where Emmett Smith went to the Cardinals and
23:02
Speaker 1: always regretted that move. He feels very comfortable in this
23:05
Speaker 1: locker room and with this offense. The question is what
23:08
Speaker 1: is the number going to be? Because we talk about
23:10
Speaker 1: his number, we're talking about a seventeen million dollar cap
23:12
Speaker 1: hit this year, So that's been the issue. What they'd
23:15
Speaker 1: have to do in order to keep him in Dallas
23:17
Speaker 1: is restructure that deal and ask him to take less money.
23:20
Speaker 1: How much less money I think is what this all
23:21
Speaker 1: comes down to you, as it was told to me.
23:23
Speaker 1: We're just going to have to see how all of
23:25
Speaker 1: this fits together. And of course we've got combined next week,
23:28
Speaker 1: so a good opportunity for Zeke and his agent, Rocky
23:31
Speaker 1: Arson No to sort see what the market is. Although
23:33
Speaker 1: we've talked about this in recent years, guys, that running
23:36
Speaker 1: back market isn't quite what it used to be. No,
23:38
Speaker 1: as teams are reluctant to give long term money, big
23:42
Speaker 1: long term money to running backs. Here maybe more likely
23:45
Speaker 1: you get a better deal to keep your own. Zeke
23:47
Speaker 1: did get that big second contract, what do you do
23:49
Speaker 1: now with a third contract potentially for Ezekiel Elliott? Thank you.
23:53
Speaker 1: Jane Slater Live there in Dallas. The latest on the Cowboys.
23:57
Speaker 1: As we get ready for the combine in Dallas, we
23:59
Speaker 1: have the HPCU combine Monday rather than combine in Indy.
24:03
Speaker 1: So let's celebrate some of the great players to come
24:04
Speaker 1: out of historically black colleges and universities, including speaking of Cowboys,
24:08
Speaker 1: Florida A and M and Cowboys Great Bullet Bob as
24:11
Speaker 1: the only player to win both a Super Bowl and
24:13
Speaker 1: an Olympic gold medal eleven year career over seventy four
24:18
Speaker 1: hundred receiving yards, seventy one receiving touchdowns. They're great fully
24:24
Speaker 1: Bob coming up next, a linebacker with the coolest helmet
24:29
Speaker 1: in football at a Super Bowl channel, A guy who
24:32
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to play a couple of years
24:34
Speaker 1: ago but got his ring on the field this time.
24:37
Speaker 1: Willie Gay coming up lay show. So one of my
24:46
Speaker 1: favorite quotes here of twenty twenty three was Joe Burrow
24:50
Speaker 1: getting asked how big he is the Bengals championship windows.
24:54
Speaker 1: Burrow said, and I'm paraphrasing, the windows open as long
24:58
Speaker 1: as I am here. So with that in mind, we
25:01
Speaker 1: asked Bucky Brooks to rank some teams here, teams with
25:04
Speaker 1: the big Super Bowl windows, meaning the biggest shot here
25:08
Speaker 1: over a number of years to win one Kansas City,
25:11
Speaker 1: just one another one fourteen and three. They had Patrick Mahomes,
25:14
Speaker 1: the Eagles with Jalen Hurts, assuming they lock him up,
25:17
Speaker 1: certainly have a shot. Then Burrow and the Bengals the
25:21
Speaker 1: Nighters for whomever their quarterback may be. And you can
25:24
Speaker 1: see this entire list here on NFL dot com. But
25:27
Speaker 1: let's talk about Mike Giardi. Those Bengals. It's one thing
25:31
Speaker 1: to have a quarterback. It's another thing to have coaching
25:34
Speaker 1: staff continuity. I think a lot of people just assumed
25:38
Speaker 1: that one of those coordinators would get a head coaching
25:41
Speaker 1: job Mike. That didn't happen. It didn't happen. Luianna Rumo,
25:46
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, had two interviews with the Cardinals, was
25:49
Speaker 1: one of two finalists that appears before they decided to
25:51
Speaker 1: go with Jonathan Gannon. Brian Callahan, their offensive coordinator, had
25:55
Speaker 1: two interviews with the Colts, decided to go with Shane Steiken,
25:58
Speaker 1: and now these guys are back with Zach Taylor for
26:01
Speaker 1: a fifth straight year. Guess how many teams in the
26:03
Speaker 1: league have had their head coach Borden and both offensive
26:06
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinators together for five years zero after Eric
26:10
Speaker 1: Bienemy left Kansas Kansas City for Washington. This is the
26:14
Speaker 1: only group they can say that, And when you consider
26:17
Speaker 1: how they progressed, the type of talent that they're working with,
26:20
Speaker 1: I think it is a massive, massive win for Cincinnati
26:23
Speaker 1: because I think they expected at least one of these
26:25
Speaker 1: guys to be gone. To have them both back with
26:27
Speaker 1: Zach again, that continuity is tremendous. I think everybody understands
26:32
Speaker 1: what they're trying to do their offensive, Indian defensively. Zach
26:35
Speaker 1: of course, being the final voice in this thing. It's great.
26:38
Speaker 1: It's something that I think Cincinnati searched for for a
26:41
Speaker 1: long time. They have it now. They have one of
26:43
Speaker 1: the elite coaching staffs in the league. And they also
26:45
Speaker 1: have a good problem here is that they have a
26:46
Speaker 1: lot of talent they need to resign. Joe Burrow is
26:48
Speaker 1: eligible for an extension this offseason. Will talk plenty about that.
26:51
Speaker 1: I'm sure over the coming months. Next season, it's Jamar
26:55
Speaker 1: Chase who would be up for a big deal. T Higgins,
26:59
Speaker 1: Mike has one more year left on his contract. What's
27:02
Speaker 1: his story. Well, of course he knows that he's a
27:05
Speaker 1: number one receiver. They believe he's a number one receiver
27:08
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, and there are a lot of teams in
27:10
Speaker 1: this league that believe that he's a number one receiver.
27:12
Speaker 1: So the question then becomes, does T. Higgins want to
27:15
Speaker 1: go the route of say A J. Brown or Tyreek
27:18
Speaker 1: Hill and say, you guys got to give me money
27:21
Speaker 1: or I need to go someplace else Fore, I'm gonna
27:22
Speaker 1: get that. And obviously, again, as I said earlier, you
27:25
Speaker 1: don't begrudge these guys for wanting to get their dollars
27:27
Speaker 1: because this is a violent league. Things happen. You want
27:30
Speaker 1: security for yourself and for your family. But now, if
27:33
Speaker 1: you're the Bengals, what is equal value for T Higgins
27:37
Speaker 1: When you have Jamar Chase on one side, but then
27:39
Speaker 1: Chase goes down and Higgins slides right into that role.
27:42
Speaker 1: And by and large he played that same way as
27:47
Speaker 1: the one that he has done as a two bing
27:49
Speaker 1: a dominant force using that length and his size. You
27:52
Speaker 1: saw him in the AFC title game against Kansas City
27:55
Speaker 1: go up and over. No one could do anything with
27:57
Speaker 1: that guy. So I get in a very interesting situation.
28:00
Speaker 1: But if I'm Cincinnati, I'm trying to keep this group together,
28:03
Speaker 1: just like the coaching staff. I want to keep these
28:04
Speaker 1: players together. I'll worry about next year next year, so
28:07
Speaker 1: long as he's ready to show up and work this year.
28:09
Speaker 1: And when we had Jamar Chase on on Super Bowl
28:12
Speaker 1: Live leading up to the game, he made an interesting
28:15
Speaker 1: comment kind of suggesting that Joe Burrow knows how to
28:17
Speaker 1: structure his contract. Whenever that gets done to keep his
28:21
Speaker 1: core guys in place, you would have to think Higgins
28:24
Speaker 1: is one of those core guys again. Burrow is eligible
28:27
Speaker 1: for a contract extension this summer. Thank you, Mike, you.
28:33
Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty seven start, Mahomes floats past this side,
28:39
Speaker 1: Kelsie over the Childer, He's got the touch starts Lunky
28:43
Speaker 1: deep the chase defense get to the tredible touchdown. Purcha
28:52
Speaker 1: is gonna run the pen Star and the Eagles lead
28:55
Speaker 1: Plunky one to fourteen. Mahomes. He's hurt. Mahomes is hurt.
28:59
Speaker 1: You can expect them to test the durability of Patrick
29:02
Speaker 1: Mahomes quick pastor Tommy Din't walk into the the first
29:06
Speaker 1: lead of the game, White open, Sky Moore touchdown terenceas City,
29:11
Speaker 1: They push, they stay for the tough foun don't underestimate
29:16
Speaker 1: how top Patrick Mahomes is. Twenty six yards scramble. He
29:19
Speaker 1: let him seconds left, thirty five, thirty five tie. The
29:22
Speaker 1: kick is good for the second time in four seasons.
29:26
Speaker 1: The Lombardy Trophy has a big red reflection the chief
29:31
Speaker 1: such champions a Super Bowl fifty seven, they one another one.
29:38
Speaker 1: Then it looks like they might still be celebrating. This
29:41
Speaker 1: is actually Willie Gan the locker room in Glendale immediately
29:44
Speaker 1: after they won one. He wasn't able to be on
29:47
Speaker 1: the field a couple of years ago, but he was
29:48
Speaker 1: on the field for this one. He is twenty three
29:51
Speaker 1: years old. He as the coolest linebacker helmet of the NFL.
29:54
Speaker 1: Eddie is a Super Bowl champion. Willie Gay joins us
29:57
Speaker 1: live here on NFL now. Willie has the party ended
30:02
Speaker 1: yet almost almost a couple more days, man, And I'm
30:07
Speaker 1: living it up. The whole team is, the city of
30:09
Speaker 1: Kansas City is. So it's been a lot of fun.
30:12
Speaker 1: Have you actually really like circled the day on the
30:15
Speaker 1: calendar where you say, all right, at this point, I
30:19
Speaker 1: have to remember I have to get ready for next season?
30:23
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so what it's February right now? Man, So
30:26
Speaker 1: sometime here in March, you know, we gotta get back
30:29
Speaker 1: to working out and train and try to go get
30:32
Speaker 1: another one, all right, before we get back to the
30:34
Speaker 1: partying in the parade, Because I know that was a
30:36
Speaker 1: big day for you as well, I want to pull
30:37
Speaker 1: up a play and give you some credit. We talked
30:40
Speaker 1: about the Gadarius Tony punt return, longest in NFL history here,
30:44
Speaker 1: and we could talk about corn dogs and all that,
30:47
Speaker 1: but tell me about your third down pressure to force
30:52
Speaker 1: that bad punt to Gadarius Tony Man right here, I
30:58
Speaker 1: actually took a horrible angle. Should have been a sect,
31:01
Speaker 1: but you know, I'll take it for sure. It was
31:04
Speaker 1: ended up being a it down for us as a defense.
31:06
Speaker 1: So and to have some apart returning Laca Dairy's back there, man,
31:11
Speaker 1: that's definitely what you won't give him a chance to
31:13
Speaker 1: make plays with the ball, and that's exactly what he did,
31:16
Speaker 1: you know. So but hopefully next time is definitely going
31:19
Speaker 1: to be a sex So all right, you've mentioned it twice. Now,
31:22
Speaker 1: does that really silly that you Oh yeah, oh yeah.
31:28
Speaker 1: The whole game we talked about blitz ankles on the
31:31
Speaker 1: quarterback because he's athletic, you know, he can make plays
31:33
Speaker 1: with his feet, and as soon as I got an
31:35
Speaker 1: open lane, man, I kind of whiffed on him. So
31:38
Speaker 1: but it's all good, No, I totally get it. You
31:40
Speaker 1: don't remember the plays you do make. You remember the
31:43
Speaker 1: plays you don't make because you want to put af
31:45
Speaker 1: a game on tape. And you ended up though with
31:47
Speaker 1: the Lombardi and I'm sure you're still happy about that.
31:49
Speaker 1: And I know that Wednesday, last Wednesday, Willie was a
31:54
Speaker 1: huge day, because not only was it the parade, but Willie,
31:58
Speaker 1: it was your birthday as well. Yeah SERI, yeah serious,
32:01
Speaker 1: my best birthday ever. Yeah, man, and uh, to celebrate
32:07
Speaker 1: a super Bowl on my birthday, you know, it's definitely
32:09
Speaker 1: the best birthday of it. So, you know, with the guys,
32:13
Speaker 1: you know, uh, and just living it up. Honestly, man,
32:16
Speaker 1: it's just the best day of What was the best
32:19
Speaker 1: part of the parade? Kelsey on stage or mahomes handing
32:22
Speaker 1: the trophy to random fans and then like walking away
32:25
Speaker 1: forgetting he did? What was the best part? I think
32:27
Speaker 1: that definitely was it for me. Man. He was so
32:30
Speaker 1: lit that day and for him to do that, he
32:32
Speaker 1: definitely had no flue. Now there's anything wrong with that.
32:37
Speaker 1: Our favorite, our favorite was this. Can we pull up
32:40
Speaker 1: Leo Chanel? You know from your linebacker over here? What
32:43
Speaker 1: was he doing here? Hey? That's the freak right there, Man,
32:49
Speaker 1: that's the freak. Great there were you on that bus? Really? No, sir, no, sir,
32:55
Speaker 1: not that one. But I saw the video after, like
32:59
Speaker 1: what would happened if he fell? He probably would have
33:02
Speaker 1: landed back on his feet anyway. He's such a such
33:05
Speaker 1: an athlete, man, that boy's funny, all right, for those
33:08
Speaker 1: who don't know, you played against the high school teammate
33:11
Speaker 1: and the Super Bowl. I mean, this is kind of cool.
33:13
Speaker 1: AJ Brider caught a touchdown obviously in the first quarter
33:15
Speaker 1: against you guys. You and he won a state championship
33:18
Speaker 1: together at Starkville High growing up as kids. Could you
33:23
Speaker 1: have imagined back then, Willie, that you would have played
33:27
Speaker 1: a high school teammate on the biggest stage. Uh, Me
33:31
Speaker 1: and Aj always knew Man we would meet up at
33:33
Speaker 1: this point. You know, we didn't think about the Super Bowl,
33:37
Speaker 1: but our goal definitely was to get it in and
33:39
Speaker 1: field and played against each other or with each other,
33:41
Speaker 1: whichever one. And and we actually we went to college. Man,
33:46
Speaker 1: we was rivals in college, and he beat me in
33:48
Speaker 1: our first every egg Bowl. So to get the w
33:52
Speaker 1: on our first ever Super Bowl against each other, Man,
33:54
Speaker 1: it's pretty big for me. But it's definitely a blessing
33:57
Speaker 1: man for us, for us Boat, So was there at
34:00
Speaker 1: least party on the sideline. I'm not on the sideline
34:02
Speaker 1: on the field that that had allowed yourself at all
34:06
Speaker 1: to be happy when he caught the touchdown A little bit,
34:09
Speaker 1: A little bit. One thing about Aj, he's gonna make
34:12
Speaker 1: his plays. And I know that, you know, personally so
34:15
Speaker 1: and of course everyone else does too, but you know,
34:17
Speaker 1: I know he's gonna make his plays, so you know,
34:19
Speaker 1: I want to beat them. I want to be him,
34:22
Speaker 1: you know, especially in this game, in that game, and
34:25
Speaker 1: of course I'm always happy when he makes his plays,
34:27
Speaker 1: but trying not to make two men against us. Willie,
34:30
Speaker 1: last thing for you, you took to Twitter last year
34:35
Speaker 1: and called this. Can we pull up the tweet here?
34:38
Speaker 1: You said on Twitter that you guys were going to
34:42
Speaker 1: win this. This was February thirteenth, two thousand and twenty two.
34:46
Speaker 1: You got it right, Willie. Do you want to make
34:49
Speaker 1: any predictions for this year calendar twenty twenty three? Stock market, bitcoin, football, anything?
34:57
Speaker 1: I can just say, we're not slowing down, man, as
34:59
Speaker 1: that's guaranteed. So all right, not slowing down, and we're
35:03
Speaker 1: writing that down. Willie, a super Bowl champion pick a
35:07
Speaker 1: day in March, but enjoyed until that man. Congratulate sir, yes, sir, alrighty,
35:12
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