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Two Ts Presents: Popping Off: “Dog Days of Summer” (VPR Ep 4) · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: Hi, guys, this is Teddy Mellencamp and I'm joined by
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  Speaker 1: my friend Emily Simpson for our new spin off show
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  Speaker 1: hopping Off, where we are digging deep on this season
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  Speaker 1: of Banner Pump Rules. Hi, welcome to another episode of
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  Speaker 1: Hopping Off with Teddy Mellencamp and.
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  Speaker 2: And Emily Simpson. Next time, I'm going to say my
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  Speaker 2: name first. Just want to let you know you can
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  Speaker 2: take the lead next time.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this time, I feel like it's a double
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  Speaker 1: wind for me because I'm in Mexico overlooking this beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: Water I know, and I'm in rain in Orange County.
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  Speaker 2: So really you should have let me do that because
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  Speaker 2: you should throw me a bone when I'm in Orange
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  Speaker 2: County in the rain.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah I should. But I hope you're enjoying the rain
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  Speaker 1: and you're probably off to go film today. But something
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  Speaker 1: we need to address right at the beginning of the
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  Speaker 1: podcast is, y'all, we know and understand that Tom Schwartz
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  Speaker 1: is name Tom.
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  Speaker 2: Schwartz or I know you guys think we're idiots, but
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  Speaker 2: we're not that big of idiots.
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  Speaker 1: We clearly know his name is Schwartz. We just have
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  Speaker 1: made a conscious decision that for the duration of this
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  Speaker 1: podcast popping off, we are going to refer to Tom
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  Speaker 1: as shorts, so we either get with it or get out.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't realize that we're making a joke, it
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  Speaker 1: just blows off the tongue a little better, and it
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  Speaker 1: actually quite suits him, especially now that he's on his
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  Speaker 1: sober curious journey. He's got a lot of shorts to
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  Speaker 1: figure out. So, yeah, you know, I can't even with
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  Speaker 1: that sober curio.
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  Speaker 2: It is such a long name, a sober curious journey
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  Speaker 2: for someone who basically is like should I stop drinking
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  Speaker 2: or not?
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  Speaker 1: And that's it.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, I am not sober curious today. I have already started,
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  Speaker 3: and it's a lot later here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm wondering how I'm going to This is a question
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  Speaker 1: I have that my husband's able to do properly. But
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  Speaker 1: as seeing as you were recently photographed dancing on a bar,
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  Speaker 1: I think you may struggle with. Some of the things
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  Speaker 1: that I struggle with is how to astain an entire
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  Speaker 1: day of casual drinking without being a mess at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day.
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  Speaker 2: I'd see I don't drink during the day, I only
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  Speaker 2: drink random.
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  Speaker 1: You wouldn't like on a housewipe. Like for example, I
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  Speaker 1: would leave this and go right to like the first
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  Speaker 1: like pool party blah blah blah that my husband's having
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  Speaker 1: for his work thing. So it's like, how do I
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  Speaker 1: keep the momentum going going? Okay, right now?
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  Speaker 2: I could take a little nappy poo. Yeah, Well you
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  Speaker 2: have to either stop drinking completely and eat some food
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  Speaker 2: or you have to just drink continuously the whole day.
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  Speaker 1: You just can't stop. Well, this could be rough, This
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  Speaker 1: could go poorly for me, This could end poorly. We
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  Speaker 1: had boots on the ground, people focusing their information on
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  Speaker 1: getting us some additional details because something about her is
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  Speaker 1: still all over the world wide.
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  Speaker 3: Webs It is something about nothing. It is.
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  Speaker 1: Something about There is nothing about her. There is nothing
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  Speaker 1: about her that's currently and it's in its form. We
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  Speaker 1: had one of our producers drive by.
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  Speaker 3: It was Monica that drove by.
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  Speaker 1: Monica's side producing cars from Salt Lake City and she's
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  Speaker 1: in town and she decided to drive by. She also
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  Speaker 1: is working on getting AT access to their security cameras
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  Speaker 1: which are not hooked up.
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  Speaker 3: But we keep seeing reports that it's going.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they're on a slight delay, but something we
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  Speaker 1: need to point out before we even get to delay.
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  Speaker 1: Is they filmed that opening scene inside of this restaurant
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  Speaker 1: that had a sign that had the little green square
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  Speaker 1: out front to set all that is gone. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: were told that that does not mean that this isn't opening.
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  Speaker 1: We are told that the original restaurant or low thing
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  Speaker 1: that was there was not permitted to have those items up,
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  Speaker 1: so they had to take them down just outside.
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  Speaker 2: So the items outside were not permitted. Is that what
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  Speaker 2: you're saying, Uh huh, So they had to be removed.
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  Speaker 2: So now it just looks like a desolate location. But
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  Speaker 2: we're assured that there's something going on inside at your.
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  Speaker 4: Point, This is what I'm being told according to our
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  Speaker 4: producer who drove up up close and personal, we can't
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  Speaker 4: with one hundred percent certainty guarantee there's nothing going on
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  Speaker 4: past the blinds.
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  Speaker 1: Because there's blackoutshades over all of the windows. So maybe
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  Speaker 1: if you lift those up, there's an entire thing of
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  Speaker 1: sandwich making going on inside. Right, speak easy. There is
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  Speaker 1: a speakeasy here at this hotel, which is kind of brilliant.
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  Speaker 1: You go in, it looks like a pharmacy, Like it
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  Speaker 1: is a pharmacy they're selling all types of things, like
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  Speaker 1: the full pharmacy, but then you go in it. It's
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  Speaker 1: a pharmacia.
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  Speaker 3: It's a pharmacia for pharmacia.
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  Speaker 1: You walk into the pharmacia, and then in order to
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  Speaker 1: get into the speakeasy, you have to use the code
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  Speaker 1: word aspirin.
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  Speaker 3: At least it's not mass.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not heroin or crack or fiddle. But what
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  Speaker 1: do you think the code word is for something about her?
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  Speaker 3: Do you think it's it's shorts, it's a it's b LT. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: So we don't know.
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  Speaker 1: This is what we're doing the best work that we
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  Speaker 1: can because and also rumors Schwarts and Sandy's is supposedly
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  Speaker 1: no longer going to be staying open.
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  Speaker 2: I did see a little reference to that, but that
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  Speaker 2: has neither been confirmed nor denied.
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  Speaker 1: It's just a rumor, I guess at this point. But
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  Speaker 1: the only other rumor that we were able to get
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  Speaker 1: out of this rumor is that the guy who is
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  Speaker 1: seen featured as one of the main dudes from Shorts
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  Speaker 1: and Sandy's is a scientologist. I don't know what this
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  Speaker 1: has to do with anything else, but that's what we know.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, he's a partner. The scientologist is a partner. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: there were some protests. Maybe the protests. Now I'm just
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  Speaker 2: going to start making shit up what kind of protests?
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  Speaker 1: I was about to be like, well, there were protests
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  Speaker 1: and allegedly this guy's wife got arrested. Wait, we have
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  Speaker 1: to go back to protests. You can't just say protests
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  Speaker 1: and leave me yanging. Here's the thing. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what the protests were about. We don't know, we have
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  Speaker 1: no idea what the protests are about. And also I
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  Speaker 1: don't really need scientology coming after me. Yeah. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: want that either, So I'm going to just zip it.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know what the protests are about, but we
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  Speaker 1: do know that's okay.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, so there was a protest and his wife got arrested,
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  Speaker 2: So now there's problems with the restaurant because of that.
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  Speaker 1: That's according to really reliable sources aka TikTok.
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  Speaker 3: That's what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: That is where I get all of my information.
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  Speaker 2: Whenever I talk about what's going on currently, I have
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  Speaker 2: to preface it by saying I saw in an instagram.
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  Speaker 1: Real. So, according to the sources at TikTok, this is
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  Speaker 1: what we've heard. Other things. Everybody and their mother except
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: for us were at the People's Choice Awards. I was
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: wondering why we were invited. It was I mean, it
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  Speaker 1: was weird. I mean not just because we weren't nominated
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  Speaker 1: for anything. I know. I was like, what weird?
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  Speaker 3: I don't see popping off anywhere around here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm confused. But the Bravo series received nods in two categories.
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  Speaker 1: Vand Pump Rules competed for Show of the Year. Gray's
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  Speaker 1: Anatomy took home. How are Gray's Anatomy and Vander Pump
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  Speaker 1: Rules in the same category. I know, I wondered the
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  Speaker 1: same thing.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, who was smoking crack when they put
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  Speaker 2: them in the same category.
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  Speaker 1: That makes no sense.
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  Speaker 2: You're talking about a scripted show, and I don't get
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  Speaker 2: a reality show.
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  Speaker 1: It's I guess it's just the it's a show of
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  Speaker 1: the year, so it can be any show. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I get that it's the TV show of the year.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, y'all don't have our producers are.
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  Speaker 3: Like, guys, it's the TV show of the year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we understand. But it's they're two very different I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I guess they're not too different demographics because I watch
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  Speaker 1: both shows, so I don't know. But then It also
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: was competed in Reality Show of the Year, but the
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  Speaker 1: Kardashians won this category. That is surprising what the Kardashians
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  Speaker 1: talking shocking?
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 1: But no, who did win? Ariana? Yeah? Ariana won for
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  Speaker 1: her part, she won for Competition Contestant of the Year
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  Speaker 1: after appearing on season thirty two of Dancing with the Stars.
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  Speaker 1: She also was up for Reality TV Star of the Year. However,
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  Speaker 1: it was once again a shocker. Chloe Kardashian took home
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  Speaker 1: that honor. YEA shout out to Chloe Kardashian. Okay, Chloe, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just I'll probably get a little crap for this.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really care, but are you really the Reality
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  Speaker 1: TV Star of the year if something just happened to you?
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  Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? I I wonder now
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  Speaker 1: that what we're seeing currently and the way Arianna.
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  Speaker 3: Is acting, if she will be up for the same
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  Speaker 3: She might be up for Least Favorite Reality Star of
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  Speaker 3: the Year, reality TV Villain of the Year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. This episode was hard to watch. It was really
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  Speaker 1: hard to watch. It was multiple for multiple reasons. But
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  Speaker 1: before we get there, there's an extra article Katie Maloney
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  Speaker 1: on awkward and frustrating New pump Roule season. On the
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: Green Carpet, Katie admitted it was the most awkward, frustrating
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  Speaker 1: season I've ever been a part of because just coming
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: off the reunion, it was just a few months later,
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of information was trickling in over a period
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  Speaker 1: of time. I am someone that leads with integrity and
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: really my values and kind of moral code that I have.
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  Speaker 1: That's where I'm coming from.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I don't understand that that was like a very
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  Speaker 3: vague statement.
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  Speaker 1: I think she's saying that she was being I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just guessing she's being Ari on his ride or
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  Speaker 1: Die regardless if anything, because of her morals, and this
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  Speaker 1: was so quickly off of it, she couldn't, I would hope. Okay,
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: let's just say this was me and you. Let's say
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: that Edwin cheated on me with someone we know where
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  Speaker 1: me and Edwin are still living in the house with
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  Speaker 1: a white noise machine and a lamp. Don't forget the
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  Speaker 1: friendship lamp. Yeah, and the friendship lamp and all the things.
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  Speaker 1: And then I move on. I'm now with Brad Pitt.
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  Speaker 1: Things are going great, but I'm still very scorn by
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  Speaker 1: the fact that Edwin's around, yeah, and now my assistant,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm thriving in that way as well. But I
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: would hope you would be like Teddy get like, let's
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  Speaker 1: move on here. You can be in his presence, who
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  Speaker 1: cares like you're above this shit At this point.
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  Speaker 2: I would, I honestly would. I would say, I know
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  Speaker 2: what it's done. It's over. You can't change the past.
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  Speaker 2: You're with Brad Pitt, so stop crying and acting like
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  Speaker 2: a victim and move forward and get out of the house.
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  Speaker 1: Move out.
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  Speaker 3: And also, we learned a new word which I now
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  Speaker 3: have forgotten it.
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  Speaker 1: But oh, it's like the flu. I think it's squatting essentially,
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  Speaker 1: like you're living in a place and not it's a.
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  Speaker 2: Form of squatting, which right, yeah, I don't ever made
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  Speaker 2: that up. I don't think it's a legal term. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think I can go look up my California real
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  Speaker 2: estate terms and frogging will be in there.
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  Speaker 3: But can you shoot over a text to Gina and
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  Speaker 3: see if she knows.
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  Speaker 2: Why would Gina know, Oh, because she's a real estate aga.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't. I'm saying I don't think it's a real term.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: I think someone's got to be a real term. Everyone's
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: online saying it. But this is what I can't comprehend about,
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  Speaker 1: the not paying of it all. If you are to
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: look at how much you are mortgage is, and how
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: much your cable bill is and how much your whatever
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: bills are, it's not that difficult to say this is half.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't understand why there's a why there's confusion
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  Speaker 2: that makes no sense to me. Plus you get you
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  Speaker 2: get bills for everything, so all you do is divide
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  Speaker 2: by two.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not great at mad highlight it. Highlight them.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, Okay, here's the bills for April bop bop.
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  Speaker 1: You owe half.
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  Speaker 3: It's not raps, I do believe.
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  Speaker 1: And I granted I still don't share a bank account
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  Speaker 1: with my husband, but I do not think unless you
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: have all of these types of details ironed out with financials,
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  Speaker 1: that you should share a bank account with somebody you
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  Speaker 1: film a reality television show with.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's always going to get messy. And someone
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  Speaker 2: that you're not married to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because then who really at what point? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I guess it could be considered you're in a partnership
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  Speaker 1: after a certain amount of years, but not paying because
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  Speaker 1: you're not sure of how the bills work. I just
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  Speaker 1: don't know how that's going to pan out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I really think it's not paying because you're
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  Speaker 2: just bitter and you just don't want to pay, don't
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  Speaker 2: feel like you are obligated to.
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  Speaker 3: But even you're obligated to, Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean, if you originally were paying, you originally put money
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  Speaker 1: into that joint account to pay from, you should be paying.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: But we also heard not to only come down in
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  Speaker 1: Ariana that they did some sort of I'm going to
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: get the wording wrong, but some kind of mortgage or
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: something they second financing of the house to help him
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  Speaker 1: pay for shorts and Sandy's and all that kind of stuff.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: So I'm sure there's other financial situations that aren't fully
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  Speaker 1: coming into play. Well, it sounds very complex, messy and convoluted.
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: Now we're going to get into the truth about vander
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: Pump rules conspiracy revealed. So when the it's not about
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: the Palsta and everybody thought they were thought they were
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: talking about coke coke, right. What we're told is during
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  Speaker 1: a twenty eighteen episode of Bravo reality series, James Kennedy
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  Speaker 1: and La La got into a heated fight about her
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  Speaker 1: allegedly eating his then girlfriend's food, which led into DJ
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: infamously shouting, it's not about the pasta. Since then, many
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: viewers have speculated that it was word for drugs and
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Kent and his best friend Logan Noah allegedly took from
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Rachel Levis. Levis revealed on her podcast on February thirteenth,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Rachel Goes Rogue, also on an iHeartRadio, pasta is not
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  Speaker 1: code for any substances.
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  Speaker 3: It was really about the pasta.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: You guys people thought, there's no way this is actually
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  Speaker 1: about the pasta. She concluded, they can't be this passionate
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  Speaker 1: about someone eating someone else's pasta. So it's not code
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  Speaker 1: word for anything. But we can put that room to
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  Speaker 1: bed now. So I have a question, is Rachel now
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  Speaker 1: the end all be all of people we trust when
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: it comes to anything, whether it's cocaine versus pasta, whether
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  Speaker 1: it's cheating or friendship lamps.
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  Speaker 2: She just I guess the argument is she has nothing
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  Speaker 2: to lose at this point, so you know, she might
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  Speaker 2: as well be honest. I mean, she got caught cheating,
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  Speaker 2: so why would you lie about pasta at this point?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like I feel like at this
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  Speaker 2: with everything that's gone on with her, she would be honest,
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  Speaker 2: because how much worse can it get?
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  Speaker 3: Well, drugs, I guess it wasn't about the pasta.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I like pasta, so I can understand how
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  Speaker 2: you could get that heated. If somebody ate my spaghetti
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  Speaker 2: and meatballs, I'd be pissed.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, if somebody ate my penny bowlonnaise that I put
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: the right amount of red chili flakes on and had
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  Speaker 1: the right ratio of everything, I'd get annoyed too, right,
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  Speaker 1: and it would be about the pasta. It would can
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  Speaker 1: be about the pasta.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I like pasa better than drugs, so it
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  Speaker 3: makes sense to me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm not interested in doing any cocaine,
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  Speaker 1: but if you tried to take my champagne, it would
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  Speaker 1: be about the champagne.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Like I don't have addictive habits, Like I don't
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  Speaker 2: think I could ever get addicted to meth or cocaine,
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  Speaker 2: but I could eat.
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  Speaker 3: Off the daily and not stop. So it makes sense
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  Speaker 3: to me.
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  Speaker 1: I get it well. Speaking of abuse, Kristen Dooty confirms
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: James Kennedy abuse allegations on her podcast Okay Kristin and
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  Speaker 1: her boyfriend Luke were chatting on her podcast, Sex Love
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: and What Else Matters. When Luke joked that James' DJ
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: name should be DJ Beats Women Allegedly, Kristin fires back,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: it's not alleged, that's exactly right. Fans point out that
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  Speaker 1: Kristin has also punched James on camera, as well as
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Jack's and Tom. However, Kristin defended that James had pushed
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: her into a bush before she hit him, but producers
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  Speaker 1: cut that section out to protect James. Despite all this,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: everyone is an agreement that this doesn't justify james behavior.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: This leads me to the next thing, which is now
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: on this episode, we're seeing that James is not drinking
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: because there's something that happened three months prior. I did
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  Speaker 1: the math. I can't figure out what could have been
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: three months prior to this because this was probably filmed
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  Speaker 1: around July ish, so.
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  Speaker 2: It would have been a March yes timeframe. Well, the
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: thing is, I don't know. Ali doesn't want to say
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  Speaker 2: what it is because she doesn't want to talk about it,
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  Speaker 2: but she tells La La that La Law should ask
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  Speaker 2: him and find out what it is. So that makes
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: me feel like it's not something physical, because otherwise, why
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: would she encourage Lala to go ask him? And maybe
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: he'll be honest with her. I mean maybe it's just
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: rage in general. Yeah, maybe gets angry. Maybe I had
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: something with another woman. Maybe it had something physical. We
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: We can't be one hundred percent because now with this timing,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I'm confused. But what I I think she's telling La
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Lala to say something, but she probably has a touch
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: amount of anxiety and fear about bringing up whatever this
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: may be with James on camera.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's true too. That's a good point. So
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: then if Lala does it, then La La can get
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: herself in trouble. But Ali wants to stay in the
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: in the clear.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: What's going on?
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: There's a shade coming down behind you.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Hey, no one's even in there. How's this happening? I
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: don't know? Wow, Okay, well you have a new background. Now,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: a new background. The episode starts, James and Ali are
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: hosting their first get together at the new house. James
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: admits he spent two thousand dollars for this pool party. Okay,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: we've already talked about it. I'm not good at math,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: but like his math his math is not mathing.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: But twelve towels, three floaties, and a grill.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: He bought.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: The The grill alone had of costs, right, I don't know.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: I've never bought a grill. It looked expensive.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I mean that, I don't know. It seemed like a
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: big expenditure for two thousand dollars. I mean the three floaties.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe the little thing that you had to buy to
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: blow up the floaties.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Well, he had to buy the food and alcohol.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, did you see anyone eating? I saw
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Ariana eating.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: They showed a little clip of her eating something, and
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I saw some burgers on fire.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, before that happened, Arianna and Katie go into
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: a lift and it happened to be the same lift
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: driver that took Ariana and stand of All home the
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: night of March first, when she found out about the fair.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: The lift driver remembered bringing them home because they were
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: fighting about the affair in his car. So this is
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the night he drops his phone, And I'm trying to
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: think that maybe this lift driver knows more about vander
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Pomp rules than he's letting on.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, you look familiar to me. I think
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: I remember this house. Meanwhile, he has a whole like
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Reddit page or something.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, he's a shrine of sand all in his home.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: He's the guy that was randomly talking to James at
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Santoval's party.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's that guy, same guy.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: But then Katie, Katie and Arianna are talking shit about
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Shorts and his Tahoe trip. They have permits, licensing and
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: staffing to worry about for their sandwich shop. Well, apparently
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: they didn't worry enough because it ain't done. No, they
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: should have worried a little more.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: They can't just sell sandwiches out of that floaty that
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: had their their sign on it, the signage that James
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: made for them. It said something about her. They could
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: just start making some sandwich and just float around in
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: a pool.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: If they would have brought the sandwiches to this party,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: it would have cost James less money.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, and then they could have practiced. They could have
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: made sandwiches.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Held it out of that lit It would have been
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: a really good Instagram post too. Right. Yeah, but I
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: feel like from now on we just need to go
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: to Santa Monica Boulevard and just take lifts up and down,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: down and see if we can find this guy. But
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: how do we find out more details about him? I
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: You're just gonna have to throw it out into the universe.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: He probably listens to this podcast. We for sure he does.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: We could stand outside of shorts and Sandy's or something
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: about her, say our name is Ariana and see how
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: long until we get picked out?
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: That's right, let's do it, Okay, we have the time.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: She and La La show up at Villa Rosa to
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: chat with Lisa. She wants to talk about Sandaval and
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: his depression. Sheena and Lala emphasize they're only seeing the
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: side of him that's not taking any accountability and projecting
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: his emotions onto others. Lisa tears up as she talks
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: about her brother's suppression, saying she will not let Sandoval go.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Through the same thing.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Lala admits she never took Sandival's mental health into consideration.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: She doesn't want to be angry anymore. It's tearing her apart.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Is not that a song, It's tearing.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Me apart when I'm with you.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Sheena calls Tom one of the best friends she's
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: ever had in her entire life. But it's forgiving Sandoval
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: worth it if she loses Ariana. So what do you
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: think would you be able to move forward if you're
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Lala and Sheena?
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, well first talking about Laala. I did very
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: much appreciate Laala in this scene because all of these
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: people have done wrong.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: They've all treated they've all done whatever.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I mean. At one point, Lala was eating Arianna's pasta
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: cooky so oh, yeah, it wasn't the pasta. Yeah, all
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I was eating Arianas.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: It also starts with a peed Oh it's not pasta.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: We're not talking. It's not about the pasta. It's not
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: about the pasta. It was about the cookie.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: It's about the cookie.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Okay. So, I mean they've all had these things happen.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: But I think where Laala really kind of hits home
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: as she says, like, I was letting my emotions and
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: how I felt about my personal relationship kind of cloud
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: everything that's going on here, and I didn't think about
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: how he was doing because I was so angry. I did.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I felt compassion for all parties involved in that moment.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I had too. I actually cried during this moment.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I just want everyone to know that I got very
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: emotional during this moment. I felt like what Lisa was
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: saying really hit home because she was relating it back
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: to her brother who committed suicide, and she's saying, let's
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, how long can you continue to persecute stand
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: the bal At some point you got to let it go.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I think if they're going to continue persecuting stand of all,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: there's no place for him on the show.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Like it has to stop. It's exhausting.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: It is exhausting, and like you said, there is no
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: one in this group with clean hands. Everybody has done
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: terrible things to each other at some point, so why
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: is it that they all just continue to I understand
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: what he did was worse than anything else, but at
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: some point you have to just move forward. I mean,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: he's been persecuted enough, not only by this whole group
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: of friends, but by the entire population in general. Like
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: how much are I.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Also think that people are This may not be the
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: right word, but people are scared of Ariana and Katie
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: of pissing them off.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: I agree, And I don't know if they're scared from
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: a show point of view, where they're scared to say
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: anything against Ariana because of public backlash, Because I don't
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: feel like anyone's really saying what they really want to
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: say because they're worried about public opinion.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Or going back because they all went so hard before.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: You know, like when you're really animate about something and
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: then you realize you may have been wrong, and then
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: you're like, shit, I'm going to look like a hypocrite,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: or but how can you get a pass?
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be hypocrisy, though it can be
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: like in that moment, I was that angry, and now
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: that time has passed, you know, I mean, I don't know,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: like you can't hold that amail the anger forever.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: At some point you just have to move on and
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: let it go.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: And I also think it the way that Arianna and
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Katie and and I like both of these people, Like
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: if we were out right now, those are two people
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: that I would gravitate to.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: They're very fun when we're together, but they kind of have.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: This like RBS, like resting bitch face on them about
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: everything involving the whole thing, like and calling Sheena like, oh,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: you're a flip flopper and you're this, and like those
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: words if you're very confident and you say those to
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: somebody who.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: May struggle in that area a little bit or who.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I think Sheena's job is kind of always on the
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: line in Vandon Brumbles, like some seasons we see her
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: a lot and some we don't. And these two, like
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: you know, pivotal women from you know, last season, are
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: telling her what she has to do. It's gone a
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: weigh on you. It's kind of like a and I
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: hate saying it, but like a mean girl persona like
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: you either fall in line with this or you're out
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: with us.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I and I feel like when you look at
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Sheena and you look at La La, I feel like
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: they have more that they want to say, but they're
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: holding back.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But Katie and Sheena have always had a tumultuous
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: relationship over the course of the show, and I'm assuming
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: we're going to see more of it coming out. You
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: know now that Katie and Shorts are both hooking up
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: with Sheena's babysitter, who was also talking about ozepic to
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Summer Moon, which I thought was another strange thing this episode.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: It's like, really, do we have like a little baby
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: doctor kid or something that syringe And she's like, should
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: I give her the zimpick?
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know from all now that I'm
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: going back. She is really narrowing down the one person
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: she trusts with her kid. I'm not sure it's the
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: one that's making out with shorts Katie me and talking
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: about ozimpic shots to her two year old.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but then but she doesn't really trust her because
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: then she has her sister come over.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then oh, but it gets heated at the
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: end when Rock brings up she Anda's mom, which which
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: we we got into a little bit last night. But anyways,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: we get back to Schwartz's semi curious sober journey coming
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: to an end at the pool party. We're seeing him
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: doing things like is that really a journey? Is it
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: really a journey.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: If you're just like I was, wondering if I should
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: be sober.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Nope, I'm not not today, not today, not today. Now
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: When I jump off the balcony into this five foot pool,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: like that felt dangerous to me.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I kept thinking someone is gonna get whiplash or
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: break their neck or their back.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: And also don't jump too high because one of those
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: airplanes could have just easily be right over. But Laala
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: and Ali, this is where they talk about James sobriety.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Ali won't share what james reason is for quitting, but
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: said he may confide to Laala about it, which I
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: hate to be the bear of bad news. He has
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: not yet. And then James, but I love this, He's
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: so but he's just love the editing THHC and fused beverage.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Yes, while his barbecue is up in flames.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I I love the editors. They love to do stuff
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: It's like, let's let's talk about how he's been sober
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: for three months and how hard that is.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile his gorilla is on fire and.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: He's let's also, I don't know, are you can you really?
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Can you really say you've been sober for three months if.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: You're chugging to you? I'm not saying.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: They may be different.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: They may like I am a different drunk if I
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: have vodka versus Margarita's, like I am not. I can't
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: drink vodka like it's I'm nasty, like no buoyno, Like
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I know that's not a good drink for me. But
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: like if I have a couple of skinny marks, or
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: if I have a couple of glasses of champagne, I
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: can be somewhat tolerable, but I don't know if you're
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: having multiple I've had one THHC full drink and I
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: remember having a hard time like formulating words.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, I had one of tameras and I couldn't stop laughing. Yeah,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: so it's like you're putting on I put the hoodie on,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I like closed it over my face, couldn't stop laughing.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I mean it was definitely a different effect than when
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I drink tequila or something like that. But your but
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: your mind influence, right, you're under the influence. You're still
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: there's still alters. You're still your mind is altered.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little questionable. But then La La and
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Schwarts do have their heart to heart. Lalla apologizes for
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: her wrongdoings and Shorts apologizes for the way he slashed
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: out at her, But then he kind of keeps making
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: like flirtatious jokes.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I mean it was you.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: You're so hot, but just plutonically speaking, but you're really hot.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Like I make fun of your lips, but they are
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: the sexiest lips I've ever seen as a friend.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I you're the beautiful woman on the face of the earth,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: but this is just a plutonic.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: I want to bone your brains out if you weren't
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: my friend.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Could you take your bathing suit off forrgeous friend? Can
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I get a whiff your cookie? That just for a second,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: but as a as a brother type, so bizarre, but
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: it really it really was a lot. Then we get
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: into Sandoval and Billy Lee.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, he deserves an Emmy for that.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: One. I'm like, this is not a shock to you.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: We all know you've been on Special Forces drowning yourself
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: and freezing cold water and getting yourself out of like
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: sunken helicopters with like a bag of money or whatever
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: it is, like wherever your excursion is. And now you
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: can't sit in this cold punched tub for twenty seconds.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: It's intense. It's intense.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I arned every day you do. You're nuts.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: I would never I have never done it. I would
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: never do it.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Well, now that you said that, you will the next
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: time the film popping off of my house, You're gonna
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: take a little dunk and then I'll give you some pasta.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: I then I'll eat. It's all about the pasta.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Then he talks about how he misses Rachel. They haven't
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: talked in three weeks. He tells Billy what they had
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: was love and that's why he was addicted to it,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: and he couldn't see anything else. He wants to give
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: their relationship a shot, and he's saving himself for her.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Billy looks heartbroken at this point. She's like oh, but
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: she tries to go Wait, he's saving himself means he's
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: not screwing other women? Is that? Yeah? Right now, he's
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: off the sauce. He's not just sober curious. He is
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: sober and he's not hooking up with other chicks. Oh,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: so he's sex sober. Yeah, he's sex. He's sex sober curious,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: sex sober curious. But Billy says, Tom, you're allowed to
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: be happy. You don't need to feel like this, and
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: then she's like, leans over for a kid, Yeah, she
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: wants to. Then, Shena tells Ariana and Katie about the
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: conversation she had with Lisa about easing up on Tom.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: She says his thoughts and feelings he's having is because
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: of a situation he created, calling Tom I annoying. Annoying.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Sina starts to cry to the girls, reminding them Tom
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: was a great friend to her. Ariana shuts it down
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: saying every word that comes out of his mouth is manipulation.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Okay, can I.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Can I say something during that conversation, I was. I
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: was so annoyed with her, how she kept talking about
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: how manipulative he is while she's manipulating that entire group
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: into disliking him and staying mad at him.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: And I don't understand caring if your friend. I understand
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: being if Arianna wants to be mad at Rachel till
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: the end of time, and I get her hanging out
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: with the group, I get it, But being mad at
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: these other women or his best friend remaining friends with him. Yeah,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: he didn't try to kill anybody. He wasn't. He didn't
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: try to kill her. He didn't put her life in changer. Like,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I get it. It was a really shitty thing he did.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: But like it's just like, let's dig into it. Ariana
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: is she has her You know, she has a right,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I guess, to completely cut off Sandobal, but they are
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: filming a reality show.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Well let's talk about she has a right to not
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: want to be around Sandoval, not want to have a
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: relationship with him, and not want to be anywhere near him.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Got it, great?
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: But then don't bother with him, maybe yes.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: But exactly move out, and then you can't control everyone
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: else's relationship with him. You have to let each one
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: of those people have their own journey and get to
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: whatever relationship they want.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: She has to let that go. It's exhausting. It is exhausting,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: and the fact that we should still be feeling bad
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: for Ariana if she took a different route right now.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I feel like I would have empathy for her, but
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: because it's so like stank face, annoyed, yeah, manipulating, yeah,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, he all these things, he sucks,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: but these are his friends.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: And not for nothing. They were his friends first. Yeah, exactly.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Just to let it go.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: It's so what it's when did she do the confessional
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: where she's putting the makeup on. I had to watch
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: that like five times. I was like, could you look
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: any more? Just like yeah, when she was talking about
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: shorts and she pulls out the mirror and she's like
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: dabbing her face the whole time, I was like, I can't, Well, you.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: Can tell at that point she's hoping they're.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Not going to use that. She's talking to production, right,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: but she's like just by point, I know and the
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: fact that they used it. I was like, oh, for
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: the loves. They're wanting to prove that you can't you know,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: you can put demands on who you film with and
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: who you don't film with. They're saying, we're gonna.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Make you regret that day exactly.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Then James comes over to La LA's apartment and they
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: talk about a sobriety, how him and Ali got into
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: a huge fight while he was drunk amid the sand
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: of all Rachel affair, and he came home and she
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: was gone, along with their cats. He quit drinking in
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen for Rachel. This was a little hypocritical because
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: he said he quit drinking because of the relationship with Rachel,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: but this time he was doing it for himself. But
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: then he tells us he actually did it because Ali
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: left with the cats.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, but what did they get He doesn't go into detail,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: but what they got in a fight about right, it
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: was after the affair, But we don't know the details
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: of what they got in this huge fight.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: About you mean in regard to Ali.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: And yeah, when he left or she left and the cat.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I love that she took the cats. She's like, I'm
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: leaving and taking the cats. She's like, I'm going to
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: prove to you that I'm really gone, and so I'm
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: taking my favorite things about being with you, and that's
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: our cats, right. So she never says what neither of
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: them say what they were fighting about. So now essentially
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: we're in the same situation we were when things got
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: bad with Rachel, where he stopped drinking, said that's his
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: new thing. But my question is, if you have.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: That side of you where you will fight badly with
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: your significant other when you drink, does that not exist
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: at all when you're not drinking. I find that hard
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: to believe.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know, because when I drink, I'm just funny,
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: So I don't know. When I drink, I'm kind of
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: an asshole, but I'm I'm kind.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Of violent, but you know, I mean, I was like,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: how was that a change?
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I was like, that's exactly like I'm an asshole
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: in general.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: So that's my question.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Consistently an asshole, consistently an asshole, and I consistently don't
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: mind if people call me one, so at least I
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: can take accountability for my assho That's my question. Is
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: there really a huge change or if all least said
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: something to him that pissed him off or I feel
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: like made him feel less than would he lash out
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: in some way Virgie.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: You're a drink and not probably. I mean he seems
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: like he would. He's got an ego.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's I don't know, but either way, now
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: he's sober again allegedly for the time being. Then we
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: see Shorts and Joe at his apartment. Joe we never
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: got to see last season, although she came up in
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: conversation a lot because she used to be friends with
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Christian Duty.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: And Katie like all of it. They were all pals.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: But allegedly he was hooking up with Joe and then
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: they moved in together. After seeing Joe cut his hair.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: I'm fine with never seeing Joe again. I don't need Okay,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: here's the question.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Can you have a whirlwind romance with someone and then
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: just be friends afterwards? I just don't see how that happens.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: How do you be in love with someone and sleep
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: in the same bed with them and have sex with
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: them and then you're just like.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, now we're just friends. How that happen? Because I
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: think the only way that happens is if one person
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: is completely done and the other one's still in love
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: with the person. Right, So my guess is Shorts no
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: longer's into Joe, and Joe's like, all right, I'll just
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: be here and to you know, make you change your
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: mind and you or you're no longer sober curious and
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: you come home tipsy one night and you want to
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: get it in. Like I feel like Joe's just waiting around.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: But I think if both people have truly moved on,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: it's probably because you really don't actually like.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: One another at all exactly. That's why it doesn't make
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: sense to me. I just don't get it. Can you
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: think of an ex boyfriend that you were like madly
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: in love with and then now could you be friends
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: with them.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: After high school?
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: No?
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Like my high school boyfriend, we see each other out
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: and when we go home and there's not.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: There's no like tension.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Would you let him cut your hair?
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Absolutely not?
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: No. Now would you let him like shave your legs?
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: No?
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: But like my ex husband, I was married before my
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: ex husband. When I first got with Edwin, we were
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: all friends and then once once Matt got serious with
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: his next girlfriend, she didn't like it and she was like,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: y'all can't be friends anymore that Bean said we didn't
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: live together.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Still, yeah, he was like, he wasn't hanging out at
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: your house cutting your hair.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Alone like we would. We'd all be like, oh, do
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: you want to go to the salts I gets? Or
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: do you want to do this? Do you want to
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: get that? But it was because I really was done
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: and so I could do it. But I don't know
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: necessarily indifference. I was adding difference, yes, but I think
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: you know whatever. But between Sandoval's one lightning bolt earring
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: and Shortz's bare feet, the scene could not end fast enough.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Like all of it, Sandoval saying he doesn't forgive Lala
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: and Sheena for blasting them on their podcast, Lala selling
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: merch and both of them paved the way for the
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: rest of the world to treat him.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: I'm like this part, it's like, Sandival, now you have
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: a podcast, like just.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I actually I actually felt as if that was I
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I thought he had a point there.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: They did because they have a public audience and because
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: they can't get out the information in a widespread way.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: I do feel like there is an element of whatever
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: their feelings are whatever they're saying. I felt like it
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: was a valid point on his behalf, but also slightly
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: hypocritical because clearly he has a podcast and he can
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: say whatever he wants too, so they could make the
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: same argument. But I do think that there is an
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: element of validity in what he was saying, where they
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: did kind of set the tone for how everyone else
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: was supposed to feel.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: But then Schwortz didn't make a good point.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: He said, I'm nervous about Sandoval's behavior in tallahope, but
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: he's optimistic the trip will lead to doors to forgiveness.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not super optimistic about that, like.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: I know me neither, but I do he does have
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: a point, though, I mean, Sandoval does need to go
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: on this trip, and he needs to tuck his tail
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: between his legs, and he needs to stop arguing with people,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: you know, and stop pointing fingers. He needs to be like,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: I'm just up, I'm sorry. Can we move on?
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: What can we do to a question? Do we really
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: think Sandoval cares about being friends with any of these
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: people or he just cares about maintaining his position on
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: the television show. Once we figure that out, I'll be
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: able to compartmentalize this a little better. I don't know.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: He and Sheena were always close. What do you think
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: do you think he wants to repair that relationship? Like,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: do you think he's personally invested in that relationship? I
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: mean he's just a show thing.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I think he when he
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: came on to Teas in a pod and then we
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: did his podcast, we all like were in the same car,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: and he definitely like, you can tell the seconds.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: I hate to use this sword, but like triggered.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: You can tell when something bothers him because he's like
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: has an immediate, like big reaction. But in his New
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: York Times article that just came out, he said, I'm
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: not a pop culture historian, really, but I witnessed the
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: OJ Simpson thing and George Floyd and with all these things,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: which is really weird to compare this to. But what
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: do you think, in a weird way, it's a little
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: bit the same.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Okay, that makes no sense.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: He went from OJ Simpson, which happened in nineteen ninety four,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: to George Floyd, which was a couple of years ago,
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: and then he's comparing himself to both of those men.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Once a murderer. The other was a victim. So which
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: is he? Is he the murderer or the victim?
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but this is just things that he said.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: But he should probably stop talking that he should have
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: stopped talking, start apologizing, and then let this move on
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: to somebody else's drama.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: I feel like he's the ding dong that keeps prolonging
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: it because he keeps saying stupid things.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Because he wants to listen. And I'm a person that
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: loves to be right.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: We know this, but I think he so badly wants
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: people to see his side.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: He can't get out of his own damn way. Well,
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: that's stupid.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: He needs someone in his ear saying you need to
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: just shut up and stop making comparisons and try to
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: stop trying to act like the viction.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: What's told him that, well, over Shorts.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he needs someone, someone that he actually respects and
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: would listen to.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Is there a person out there that could do that, Well,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Lisa vander Pump tried, but that didn't work either.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, I guess there's no one. So he's clearly.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Is that, And maybe he is a narcissist. He's clinically
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: a narcissist. I guess allegedly. I feel like if I
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: just put allegedly on there, then I don't get myself
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: in trouble.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: That's that's the way we go. But then we end
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: the episode. I mean, well, they're all going to Tahoe.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: That should be a real except for Katie and Arianna.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: They have a business to open, still waiting for my sandwich.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: And then James thinks that he's going to talk to
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Lisa about sand of all going to vander Pump Dogs,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: but she has a surprise for him. And then it's
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: that she rescued Graham, the dog that James does to
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: share with Rachel. She starts crying instantly. I know, first
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: of all, I have so many this has happened so
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: many times with vander Pump Dogs. I'm confused.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: I don't even understand what's going on. So Rachel took
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: the dog when she left.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: When they broke up. She took the dog last season
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: or the season before, whatever it was. James would get
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: like visitation park visits with the dog.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, so Rachel would be the dog. So then Rachel
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: goes to therapy in Arizona.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: The therapy rehab place, but also allegedly the dog was
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: starting to act out. The dog allegedly kept biting people,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: and then the dog bit her mom, and then the
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: mom gave him up. And then because why wouldn't my
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: mom reach out to James though, because James allegedly did
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: terrible things to his daughter, her daughter, so she.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Doesn't want the dog to go back to him.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Correct, So a foster family and a rescue a dog
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: rescues a better place.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: I just I generally like dogs better than people, So
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: I was more offended by this whole dog situation than
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: anyone else treating each other badly.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I decide you badly for the dog. Well, I can
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: say this from personal experience. Lisa creating a storyline with
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: an abandoned dog feels vaguely familiar to me.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: So you think Lisa reached out said bring the dog
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: to vander Pump. So it looks like I rescued the
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: dog and then called James to come and get the dog.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that this was not. Whether the dog was
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: chipped and they found out where it was originally, I
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: don't know, but I am sure there was multiple hands
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: in this jar figuring it out. And how to pull
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: on James's heartstrings and get him to start opening up.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: But Lisa says that she got a call that this
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: dog had been in a foster home for two months,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: but he had bitten a few people and so he's
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: being given up to a shelter. Lisa rescued him because
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: she feels like the dog is meant for James. You
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: could see how happy Ali was about this decision when
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: you see that Graham starts to bark at the cats
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: that sometimes don't live with her and James. It was
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: a lot. It was a lot. That's where they end
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: the episode. I'm happy Graham is back. I don't know.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I guess with James.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Well, here we go another episode of Popping Off. We
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: have finished and we will be back next week to
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: talk about all the additional things.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Thanks guys,