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China Welcomes President Trump · That KEVIN Show

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  Speaker 2: Here all right, Welcome in, Kevin mccallough. Glad to have
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  Speaker 2: you with us. Big News day. The President is on
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  Speaker 2: the ground in China. It's you know, going into the
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  Speaker 2: next day, and there will be busy activities as as
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  Speaker 2: that comes to fruition, lots of meetings taking place on
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  Speaker 2: lower levels. But he received a very warm welcome, groups
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  Speaker 2: of Chinese youth on the tarmac waving American and Chinese
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  Speaker 2: flag saying welcome President Trump, Welcome, President Trump, and certainly
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  Speaker 2: a different certainly a different welcome than what his predecessor
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  Speaker 2: had received. In fact, his predecessor, Joe Biden, could not
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  Speaker 2: get phone call's returned to his cabinet members with their
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  Speaker 2: corresponding counterparts in China. That's how bad the relationship was
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  Speaker 2: between Biden and And people may think that that sounds
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  Speaker 2: counterintuitive because she and Trump have gone at it with
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  Speaker 2: you know, tariffs and other things and trying to get
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  Speaker 2: the upper hand. But there is certainly in the way
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  Speaker 2: China treats President Donald Trump, there's certainly a deeper level
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  Speaker 2: of respect than the way he treated you know, the
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  Speaker 2: previous administration. So it's interesting, and that goes back to
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  Speaker 2: President Trump's first term. You may remember the first time
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  Speaker 2: that they met in private, you know, conversation was early
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  Speaker 2: in the Trump administration when he had invited President g
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  Speaker 2: to the US for a summit and they were having
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  Speaker 2: dinner at mar A Lago and the president excuses himself,
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  Speaker 2: says he needs to go take care of something, drops
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of missiles on Syria because Syria had just
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  Speaker 2: gassed their own people. And he came back and said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm sorry I had to deal with you know,
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  Speaker 2: Syria because he just gassed his own people. And I
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  Speaker 2: think from that moment forward, g was like, WHOA, this
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  Speaker 2: guy does what he says. So we'll see, We'll see
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  Speaker 2: how this summit plays out. I loved Kat McFarlane's analysis
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  Speaker 2: this morning when she was on with Bill Hemmer and
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  Speaker 2: some of the guys on on Fox and Friends, because
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  Speaker 2: she was saying, look, the Chinese approach everything very differently
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  Speaker 2: than Donald Trump. The Chinese have everything exquisitely pre planned
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  Speaker 2: and pre prepared. And you will say exactly this, and
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  Speaker 2: then you will introduce so and so, and they will
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  Speaker 2: say exactly this, and then that will introduce so and so.
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  Speaker 2: And she said, there's meticulous planning of every little tiny
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  Speaker 2: detail of what goes into how the Chinese approached something
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  Speaker 2: like this. And she goes and President Trump is exactly
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  Speaker 2: the opposite. He walks in, he goes, I'm the commander
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  Speaker 2: in chief. I'm going to listen to all of the
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  Speaker 2: information and make the decision and we'll go from there.
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  Speaker 2: And she said it makes the Chinese preparation for someone
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  Speaker 2: visiting like President Trump completely unhinged because they just don't
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  Speaker 2: know what to expect because he's the only one that's
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  Speaker 2: going to be speaking on their behalf and going that direction.
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  Speaker 2: So I kind of think, and I've been hopeful. I've
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  Speaker 2: said it over the last course of the last couple
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  Speaker 2: of days. I'm hopeful that this summit will produce good
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  Speaker 2: things because I think that the world needs the good
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  Speaker 2: things to happen. But the way I define good things
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  Speaker 2: is that I want him to press g on their
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  Speaker 2: involvement in Ukraine and Iran and get them to step down,
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  Speaker 2: and I mean really lower the booms. Say you're not
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  Speaker 2: going to get access to our markets if you don't
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  Speaker 2: step down from Ukraine and Iran, you know, meddling in
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  Speaker 2: those things. I want him to express in the fullest
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  Speaker 2: sense of the word, how serious we are when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to winning the AI race, and that that there's
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  Speaker 2: there's going to be zero zero give on that. And
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  Speaker 2: that's what Elon Musk and the CEO of Nvidia and
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  Speaker 2: some of the other some of the other tech bros
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  Speaker 2: that are showing up. That's what they're all there for.
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  Speaker 2: And then the third thing I want him to do
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  Speaker 2: is I want him to really I want I would
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  Speaker 2: love for him to peel China away from Russia and Iran,
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  Speaker 2: even if it's just slightly, by cutting an energy deal
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  Speaker 2: with them that would ship American liquid natural gas to
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  Speaker 2: China in exchange for them giving up you know, the
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  Speaker 2: dirty oil from Iran and the cheap oil from Russia.
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  Speaker 2: They're an energy poor country. They need cheap, reliable energy sources.
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  Speaker 2: We've got more liquid natural gas than anybody on the planet,
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  Speaker 2: and we can't We won't run out of it for
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  Speaker 2: thousands of years if there's no more produced in the
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  Speaker 2: same time, So what do we have. What's the downside?
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  Speaker 2: We have to selling and to exporting into making America
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  Speaker 2: wealthier because we are able to sell them what they need,
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  Speaker 2: I think, and if you get that with concessions about
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  Speaker 2: what they do with AI or technology or other things,
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  Speaker 2: I think, I think you're just in a winning situation.
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  Speaker 2: So there on the ground, those talks are going to
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  Speaker 2: start tomorrow There's going to be a number of things
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  Speaker 2: we're looking at Deborah, Ruth and Hannah. What are what
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  Speaker 2: are these women known for?
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  Speaker 9: Well, Deborah is I call her a surrogate mom.
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  Speaker 10: She is an amazing woman.
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  Speaker 9: She is in the middle of Israel when they're having
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  Speaker 9: a horrible time, and the book judges it's characterized by
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  Speaker 9: the phrase every man did that which was right in
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  Speaker 9: their own eyes. So she's in the midst of that.
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  Speaker 9: They are being continually invaded by their enemies and losing
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  Speaker 9: battles with their enemies because they're not right with God.
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  Speaker 9: And she steps up as a prophetess and a judge
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  Speaker 9: and says this has got to stop.
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  Speaker 10: She says to Barak.
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  Speaker 9: An associative, urge a general take them on, man, go
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  Speaker 9: after him, and he says, I'm not going to go,
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  Speaker 9: you know, big brave general. I'm not going to go
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  Speaker 9: if you don't go, And so she goes tells him
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  Speaker 9: he will not. He will not, you know, have the
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  Speaker 9: credit for it. Another woman will get the credit. That
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  Speaker 9: woman is Jayl who, as you remember, takes a spike
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  Speaker 9: and drives it through the head of Cesarah. And when
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  Speaker 9: they write a song about Deborah, they say the villagers
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  Speaker 9: ceased in Israel, they cease to be until I arose.
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  Speaker 10: I Deborah arose as a mother in Israel.
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  Speaker 9: And I think, I think, you know, besides the fact,
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  Speaker 9: you know she's interesting just because her name means honeybee,
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  Speaker 9: But besides that, you know, you don't get that often
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  Speaker 9: is that she really is a mom to everybody, and
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  Speaker 9: and and you know, if you're a good mom, you
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  Speaker 9: wind up being a mom to a lot of people.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 10: You know, you may not be a biological mom.
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  Speaker 9: We don't have a record of her biological kids.
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  Speaker 10: But she is a mom in Israel. She's a mom
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  Speaker 10: to everybody.
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  Speaker 9: And everybody has somebody like that on the block, right
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  Speaker 9: and God willing.
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  Speaker 10: It's a Christian mom who's just taking care of everybody.
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  Speaker 10: It's a wonderful thing.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we move into a different story, but also a
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  Speaker 2: woman that saw some sadness in life. Ruth.
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  Speaker 10: Yes, Ruth loses her husband.
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  Speaker 9: The backstory is Naomi, whose name means Mary Sunshine and
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  Speaker 9: is anything but we he Her and her.
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  Speaker 10: Husband leave Israel.
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  Speaker 9: And move into the land of the Moabites, which is
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  Speaker 9: not really something they should have done.
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  Speaker 10: The Mobites are are israel sworn enemies.
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  Speaker 9: And there they're two sons marry two mobike women, Ruth
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  Speaker 9: and apara Uh.
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  Speaker 10: Both of the sons and the father die and and
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  Speaker 10: and Ruth, excuse me, Naomi give.
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  Speaker 9: Naomi gives Ruth the option to go back and stay
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  Speaker 9: and stay stay there in Mobikee land while she goes
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  Speaker 9: back to Israel, and and Ruth says those those incredible words,
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  Speaker 9: you know, uh, you know, for where you go, I
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  Speaker 9: will go where you lodge, I will lodge. Your people
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  Speaker 9: will be my people. And then here this, here's this
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  Speaker 9: phrase your God, my God. So she places her fan
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  Speaker 9: eight in the God of Israel and she goes it
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  Speaker 9: goes on to talk about her as being a worthy
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  Speaker 9: individual in a worthy woman in Israel in a world
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  Speaker 9: where it's the same time as the judges, everyone's doing
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  Speaker 9: what's right in their own eyes. A person who's not
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  Speaker 9: doing what's right in their own eyes is a momabilite
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  Speaker 9: woman who's serving the one through God, one true God.
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  Speaker 9: And here's here's a woman who gets a second chance.
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  Speaker 9: Really and she makes it into the genealogy of.
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  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, the second, the second non israel the second
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  Speaker 2: non Israelite to do so in just the last two
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  Speaker 2: days that we've talked about women.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, wow, you know, does God love the nations
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  Speaker 10: or what?
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  Speaker 11: You know?
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  Speaker 9: It's a it's a it's a beautiful, beautiful thing. She's
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  Speaker 9: and she's an amazing, amazing woman. When you when you
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  Speaker 9: read her work ethic, when you read her loyalty to
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  Speaker 9: her mother, in law and then and then how God
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  Speaker 9: rewards that. Oftentimes, Kevin, we we talk about comeback stories.
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  Speaker 9: This person was a mess, this person wasn't doing the
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  Speaker 9: right thing, and yet God was so gracious and brought
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  Speaker 9: them through all that. Here's a woman who, of course
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  Speaker 9: we all need God's grace, and she's a mobile woman.
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  Speaker 9: Here's a woman who actually is doing all the right things,
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  Speaker 9: and God blesses her with a second chance and she
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  Speaker 9: becomes a mom And go figure a mobilite woman in
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  Speaker 9: the genealogy of Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: The line of Christ. Yeah, and for people that haven't
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  Speaker 2: done so, go read the story of she and Boaz
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  Speaker 2: and how God brings them together, honoring one another, honoring
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  Speaker 2: him in the process, and it's just really an incredible thing.
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  Speaker 2: Let's move to Hannah. I have some personal connection to
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  Speaker 2: this story that I'll reveal in a second, but give
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  Speaker 2: us the thumbnail of what she was about.
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  Speaker 10: Hannah is married to a man in Israel.
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  Speaker 9: There's her and he has a second wife because it's
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  Speaker 9: still technically the period of the Judges, and everyone's doing
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  Speaker 9: what's right in their own eyes, and she can't have
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  Speaker 9: kids and she's broken by it. She knows the brokenness
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  Speaker 9: of not being able to have a kid. And the
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  Speaker 9: text tells us in the first Stamuel one to ten,
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  Speaker 9: she's up at Shiloh, where the where the Ark of
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  Speaker 9: the Covenant is, and she's deeply distressed, and she prayed
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  Speaker 9: to the Lord and wept bitterly and wept bitterly. So
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  Speaker 9: she's there just breaking her heart. And Eli, who's the
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  Speaker 9: high priest at the time, sees her lips moving and
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  Speaker 9: thinks she's drunk at the House of God and actually
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  Speaker 9: rebukes her. And you know, he goes on to hear
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  Speaker 9: her prayer or hear her story and say, God's going
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  Speaker 9: to answer your prayer. She experiences this, this heartbreak of
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  Speaker 9: being barren. She took her problem to the Lord in
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  Speaker 9: an intense way, and I love this. She says at
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  Speaker 9: the end that she lent her firstborn son, that is Samuel,
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  Speaker 9: to the Lord. So picture this, you can't have kids,
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  Speaker 9: you get a kid, you wean the kid, and you
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  Speaker 9: give him to the Lord.
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  Speaker 10: That's that's that's a lot of faith. That's an amazing woman.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and not only does she give him back to
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  Speaker 2: the Lord, he ends up being the prophet who hand
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  Speaker 2: selects David to become King of Israel, and God prompts
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  Speaker 2: him to do so. But this is this is the
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  Speaker 2: start of the of the next, you know, mightiest section
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  Speaker 2: of the nation of Israel's history, and it came from
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  Speaker 2: a broken woman who was crying out to God because
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  Speaker 2: of it. I've actually been to Shiloh. I've actually been
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  Speaker 2: to the place where the synagogue or the temple was constructed.
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  Speaker 2: I've stood in the area that she possibly stood in.
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  Speaker 2: And when I was told where I was at and
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  Speaker 2: what I was standing on, uh, it was a It
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  Speaker 2: was a holy moment, and I actually prayed for God
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  Speaker 2: to bless my three children in the same place where
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  Speaker 2: she wept and begged God for hers. And that same day,
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  Speaker 2: the guy that was guiding us around got special permission
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  Speaker 2: from the Israeli authorities to give us little shards of
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  Speaker 2: pottery that dated back to the era of King David
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  Speaker 2: from from that from that dig they were they were
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  Speaker 2: in the process of digging Shiloh, and each one of
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  Speaker 2: my kids has a piece of pottery that came from
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  Speaker 2: that time and history. Knowing that they were prayed over,
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  Speaker 2: and we got some photographs of me praying for them
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  Speaker 2: in that moment that when they're you know, fully mature
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  Speaker 2: and older and so forth, they'll understand better. But what
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  Speaker 2: a what a special woman, what a special story. And
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  Speaker 2: these are all friends, just examples of mothers that had
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  Speaker 2: great faith. And we're gonna we're going to continue this
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  Speaker 2: discussion tomorrow a very interesting woman by the name of Bathsheba.
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  Speaker 2: And if we have time, we'll get into Elizabeth, the
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  Speaker 2: aunt I guess you will of Jesus. And then we've
• 20:15
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  Speaker 2: we will dig into on Friday. So it's going to
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• 20:23
  Speaker 2: will just stay with us. This is some really interesting stuff, David.
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  Speaker 2: I hope that we're inspired, convicted and motivated to replicate
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: some of the great faith of these women. Thank you
• 20:34
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  Speaker 9: Such a privilege, such a privilege talking about moms who
• 20:38
  Speaker 9: made all the difference in our lives.
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• 20:42
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  Speaker 2: kind of not knowing what to expect, even if their
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  Speaker 2: parents haven't been in prison. I mean, just regular kids
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  Speaker 2: that are growing up in the suburbs feel this way.
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  Speaker 2: But imagine the multiplied impact of living in high rise
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  Speaker 2: and there's no air conditioning, and you're surrounded by gangs
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  Speaker 2: get to see what a tree feels like up close.
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  Speaker 2: And you get to, i don't know, ride a horse,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: or paddle a paddle boat, or take a canoe up
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: up a creek. You get to do all of this
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  Speaker 2: stuff that you've never done before. And the emotional impact
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: of it. I think of it as like kind of
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: like an exploding marker in some of those illustrations where
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: kids get to color things and the color changes in it,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: and as it becomes like more three D the more
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: they color. That's what you're doing to this kid's experience
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: when he goes to summer camp. It's a life that
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: they've never dreamed of and it just takes them by surprise.
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  Speaker 12: So many people who are watching and listening can't relate
• 23:16
  Speaker 12: to what you just said, but it's totally totally true.
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  Speaker 12: If you've ever seen the movie West Side Story, or
• 23:23
  Speaker 12: if you go back further into the old black and
• 23:25
  Speaker 12: white Glenn Ford Blackboard Jungle movie, that's where these kids live.
• 23:30
  Speaker 12: I mean, the excitement is, oh, I get to go
• 23:32
  Speaker 12: on the basketball court for half an hour and run
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  Speaker 12: around on the hot concrete. They may have a park
• 23:39
  Speaker 12: in their neighborhood that's got one teeter totter that eighty
• 23:43
  Speaker 12: kids are trying to play on. Here's an opportunity where
• 23:46
  Speaker 12: they get on a bus. They go out of the city.
• 23:48
  Speaker 12: They are experiencing suburban and then rural life for the
• 23:53
  Speaker 12: first time, and they get off that bus and man,
• 23:55
  Speaker 12: it's like in the opening of The Wizard of Oz.
• 23:58
  Speaker 12: To keep the movie theme going, when Dorothy goes from
• 24:01
  Speaker 12: black and white into technicolor. They suddenly are at a
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  Speaker 12: summer camp that is a Christian fellowship from morning till night.
• 24:11
  Speaker 12: They get three squares a day where they sit together
• 24:13
  Speaker 12: with other kids, all of whom have a mom or
• 24:16
  Speaker 12: dad in prison, so they don't feel in any way
• 24:20
  Speaker 12: ostracized or like they're the odd person out. It's such
• 24:24
  Speaker 12: an amazing experience for them, and because of you and
• 24:28
  Speaker 12: your dollars that you donate, the miracle happens. It truly
• 24:32
  Speaker 12: is a transformation of them in a way that changes
• 24:35
  Speaker 12: their life for eternity.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that when you're talking about wanting to
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: have an impact on the next generation. You know, there's
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: a lot of things that we can covetch and complain
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: about easily, and how culture goes wrong and all the
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: things fatherlessness and all the things that take place, and
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: certainly with kids who have parents in prison, they've not
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: been dealt a very good hand from the outset. I mean,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: you're already kind of behind the eight ball. And I
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: really believe it's the best thing. I had a personal
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: fondness for Christian camp when I was a kid growing up,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: and I didn't grow up in any of the challenges
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: that these kids have, so imagine the impact it makes
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: on them.
• 25:13
  Speaker 12: One of the things that they tell me is that
• 25:17
  Speaker 12: and I hear this from kids at several of the
• 25:19
  Speaker 12: camps that we visited. Biggest thing for them, other than
• 25:23
  Speaker 12: sitting around a campfire, because campfire is a huge deal.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: And never seen one of those before is breakfast.
• 25:29
  Speaker 12: A lot of them never get breakfast and to have
• 25:33
  Speaker 12: an opportunity to race across the lawn and get to
• 25:36
  Speaker 12: the cafeteria. And they've got a woman who looks like
• 25:40
  Speaker 12: Aunt Bee on the Andy Griffiths show mixing up pancakes.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Some of them have never seen a pancake.
• 25:45
  Speaker 12: You can you imagine this, and to get bacon and
• 25:48
  Speaker 12: eggs or pancakes.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: And to go back to their friends be not worried
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: about Yeah, it's just crazy how wonderful it is.
• 25:57
  Speaker 12: For them to take fings that we take for granted
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  Speaker 12: home with them and to be excited about it, and
• 26:05
  Speaker 12: it just really transforms.
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  Speaker 1: Their lives on how other to say it.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: In rural Louisiana where I went to camp, there was
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: a there was a cook that lived in the town
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: where the camp was located, and towards the end of
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: my time there, she could only come in one day
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: a week, But when I first started going to camp there,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: she was there all five days of the of the
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: work week. And her name was Aunt Mona and elderly
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: black lady sweetheart. She would come in and make these
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: biscuits on Wednesday that from scratch. Nobody knew the recipe.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Only Aunt Mona knew the recipe. Those of us that
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: were on kitchen staff for our counselor duties, we would
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: try to figure out what was in the recipe. She'd
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: never tell it to anybody, but then but then after
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: we would have our lunch on Wednesday with an ample
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: amount of Aunt Mona's wonderful biscuits rolls in us. We
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: would all ask her to come out and sing, because
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: she had this lovely singing bows, and at like ninety
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: six years old, she would kind of hobble her way
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: to the front of the dining hall. She had a
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: little microphone and she'd sing us a song and it
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: was always an old spiritual of some sort, and it
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: was like the highlight of the week and talk about
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  Speaker 2: something that nobody had experienced. But for me, camp always
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: meant not only food, but good food, and maybe better
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: food than these kids have ever tasted in their life, because,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: as you said, that's kind of like the nonahs are
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: all in the kitchen doing the stuff for the camps,
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• 28:45
  Speaker 2: of Defense for detainee Affairs, and Kully. There's a lot
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: that we could speak about today. You've got the President
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: kind of at his wits end with Iran, and I
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: think he's going to restart some kinetic activity there. I'm
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: not sure sure exactly everybody else's view on it, but
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I think he's had enough of the iatolas. And this
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: this comes in the context of the g meeting, which
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: is straight in front of us. I've got some hopes
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: as to what I hope he will do, But you've
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: also got you know, the current events that are going
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: on globally, and I'm just curious, is there too much
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: for the for the for the man to be focused
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: on what he needs to do right now? How do
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: you expect the next week or so the administration to
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: to operate? Do they do they relaunch attacks in Iran
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: and meet with g at the same time. What's your thought?
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: Well, I think what you're not going to see is
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: him pulling in Obama where he draws a red line
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: and then fails to make good on his promise to
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: do something once that red line is crossed, right for
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: Obama did that, and that sends a very weak message
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: to the world. It also says there's no there there
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: And so you're right. Iran has been really good at
• 29:59
  Speaker 8: playing stallball. They've been doing that for decades and Trump,
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: I think has had enough. And so I think for
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: him not to do something now would violate his promise
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: that he's going to do something if it'll come.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Isn't it kind of refreshing to have a chief executive
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: kind of go I'm done, Guys like I just you
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: never got that from Obama or Bush or Clinton or
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: in those guys. And I just I like the fact
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: that he's, you know, he's not going to be really,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: you know, too deceptive about his feelings on this.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 30:34
  Speaker 11: And when you're a real estate developer and.
• 30:37
  Speaker 8: The counterparty doesn't come through with the goods, you're going
• 30:41
  Speaker 8: to move forward in a way that makes the most
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: sense for your side.
• 30:43
  Speaker 11: And he's on the side of the US in America.
• 30:47
  Speaker 8: And so look, every president in my lifetime, and I
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: remember seventy nine quite well when the radicals took over
• 30:56
  Speaker 8: in Iran has said they can't have a bomb, and
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: if they do have the bomb, we're going to do
• 31:02
  Speaker 8: something about it. And Trump's only want to do something
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: about it. And remember he came to office both times
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: with the idea of ending wars and expanding peace. And
• 31:12
  Speaker 8: so I think he takes these actions reluctantly, but he
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: also is going to do it because he realizes that
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: thugs only understand a punch in the nose.
• 31:22
  Speaker 11: And so.
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: I think he's going to have to do something. And
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: I think, to answer your broader question, he can walk
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: into gum. At the same time, he has a great
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: Secretary of State and a team behind him, and so
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: these talks with President G and China will be on
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: a number of levels. I hope one of the items,
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: and I think he's already said that, will be the
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: release of Jimmy Laie, who he has been campaigning on
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: and been saying that he's going to try to get
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: him released. And I think there's a great article in
• 31:54
  Speaker 8: the Wall Street Journal today about why it is a
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: G's best interest to Jimmy Laigo because if he doesn't,
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: it will continue to be an issue, and so it's
• 32:05
  Speaker 8: in both parties interests to at him free. So I
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: think you're going to see kinetic action in Iran and
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: of some level, and then you're going to see a
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: number of productive discussions at the secondary and principles level
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: in China.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: There's a bunch of stuff I would like to see
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: come out of the Chinese meeting. I wrote in town
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: hall dot com today that I would like to see
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: him send a very strong message about China no longer
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: kind of mucking up the waters of Ukraine or Iran.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: They're both kind of tangentially on the outskirts, kind of
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: you know, influencing and infiltrating in small ways I'd like
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: to see them completely remove from that. He's taking all
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: the tech pros with him, so I think he's going
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: to make a big, big kind of impression about how
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: dominant we intend to be with aileads to the energy
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: equation though, and I would love to see him come
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: up with some way, even if we had to deflate
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: the pricing kind of artificially to peel China off Iranian
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: and Russian dirty oil and sell liquid natural gas to them,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: because once you get a joint economic interest connection, the
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: likelihood that that turns into military conflict down the road
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: is lessened, and you haven't lost any players in the process.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: We have really masterfully gone in with a state department
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: that's quite strong, with kind of an executive face from
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: JD Vance and others that have been quite strong, and
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: we've used that to our effective good this go around.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: And I think there's a lot more we can do
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: in the next two and a half three years.
• 33:51
  Speaker 11: Yeah, there is.
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: And when you have a bilingual Secretary of State who
• 33:56
  Speaker 8: believes in hemispheric strength, which Mark Rubio does and believes
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: that it's better for the hemisphere of Cuba, ultimately fails
• 34:04
  Speaker 8: and the leadership there goes away. China's support for Cuba,
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: china support for despotic regimes in Central and South America,
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: mainly South America and in Africa is real.
• 34:18
  Speaker 11: Marco understands that.
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: The Secretary of State clearly understands that, and that is
• 34:24
  Speaker 8: disquieting to leaders in China, and so that's a good thing.
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: To put them on their heels and make them look
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: have their head on a swivel is a good thing.
• 34:33
  Speaker 11: And so I think we're in.
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: A superior bargaining position with them. But also China takes
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: the long view on these things, and so we have
• 34:42
  Speaker 8: to understand that. To come away victorious for us also
• 34:46
  Speaker 8: has to give them something where they can go back
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: to their third party Congress and other leaders to say, look,
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: we got something for us too. So Trump's a master
• 34:53
  Speaker 8: at this, and I think the meeting itself is important,
• 34:57
  Speaker 8: coming away with something that he can especially if he
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: gets Jimmy Lai free, that's going to be a huge
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: political victory, and of course the victory for mister Lai himself.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Do you think temporarily Gee has abandoned the interest in Taiwan.
• 35:12
  Speaker 8: No, I don't, but I think that's the perception he
• 35:17
  Speaker 8: wants us to have and others to have. They've been
• 35:22
  Speaker 8: very clear about it. The problem is that with their
• 35:25
  Speaker 8: economy the way it is, I think the state of
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: their military, despite the fact that they're growing, especially their navy,
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: is such that it may not be a realistic goal
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: in the next two years.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Got it, Kelly Stimpson. We always appreciate your effort and
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: your time and your attention. Thank you for joining us here,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me you got it. Kevin McCulloch
• 35:47
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  Speaker 2: things in life that are eternal, that are beyond what
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• 36:33
  Speaker 2: of you that have taken the extraordinary step of saying, hey,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: I'm going to help some of these kids get to
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  Speaker 2: camp this summer. I just I want to say thank
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  Speaker 14: We wake up, we have breakfasts, and then we usually
• 37:31
  Speaker 14: play some games, and then if you're older, we might
• 37:34
  Speaker 14: have like a Bible study before worship. We worship till
• 37:37
  Speaker 14: lunch and it's the blast and now everybody's jumping.
• 37:40
  Speaker 10: We're seeing it.
• 37:40
  Speaker 14: After lunch, we didn't have like free time. We do craft,
• 37:43
  Speaker 14: to go swimming and do all that stuff, all that
• 37:45
  Speaker 14: fun stuff.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, I love camp. That's how I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: keep coming back.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I want to keep coming back. I love camp. Friends.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you grew up in a situation
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: where you had a Christian camp to go to when
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: you were young. But I will tell you it was
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: so life changing in my own experience, and I did
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: not I did not even have a parent in prison.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: I was not in the same shoes that some of
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: these kids are in. And just as a suburban kid
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: growing up, it was one of those things where I
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: could not wait to get there every summer. But you
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: heard the voice of our friend right there talking about
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: how much funny has they They work on crafts, they
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: do things outside, they do zip lines, they go swimming,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: they take horseback rides, and in the esthetic of doing
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: this stuff that is so foreign to their lives many
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: times oftentimes cooped up in public housing projects or in
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: situations where they have family members watching over them that
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  Speaker 2: may not even really care for them that much because
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  Speaker 2: they kind of feel like they've had this kid dumped
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  Speaker 2: on them because the parent ends up in prison. It's
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  Speaker 2: it's just such a it's just such a different environment.
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  Speaker 2: The counselors, many of them former Angel Tree campers themselves,
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  Speaker 2: have come back and are just pouring their lives into
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  Speaker 2: these kids. And I will say this, there is that
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  Speaker 2: there is an amazing thing, that transformation that takes place,
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  Speaker 2: because when they show up, they don't know that all
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  Speaker 2: the other kids are going to be there, are going
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  Speaker 2: to be like them. In fact, I think a lot
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: of them wonder and maybe think that they're going to
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: be like the only one that has a parent in prison.
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  Speaker 2: And then somewhere early in the first day they find out,
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  Speaker 2: you know, somebody comes up what your parents do, and
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: they make friends, and because of their shared experiences, they
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: they you know, bond and they start having fun. And
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: as that heart opens up, the counselors are there with
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: the message of Jesus, they begin to talk to them
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  Speaker 2: about eternal things. They begin to talk to them about
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  Speaker 2: why their parent asked for their name to be included
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  Speaker 2: to be able to go to a camp like this,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: because that's how the kids are nominated. Their incarcerated parent
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: completes a Bible study program in prison, and once they
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  Speaker 2: have done that, they have the ability to ask for
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  Speaker 2: their for their child to be able to be considered.
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  Speaker 2: And then it's just it's just, you know, you're at
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  Speaker 2: the most important people that in terms of who you
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: could have turned to for commentary during the COVID virus.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: What he saw firsthand from his positions, what he knew
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: about the people involved, what he observed happened during that time,
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  Speaker 2: lots of lots of lessons about things we should have
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  Speaker 2: known better and done better. But he's going to join
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  Speaker 2: us to discuss this new challenge, this thing called antivirus.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: It's been around longer than COVID. COVID was a new virus.
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  Speaker 2: It was a novel virus. It had not been experienced
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  Speaker 2: before HANTA. The helpful thing about it is it's not novel.
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  Speaker 2: It's not new. Hantavirus has been around since the fifties,
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  Speaker 2: and there is a specific way of approaching it, dealing
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  Speaker 2: with it, etc. And I don't think that it is
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  Speaker 2: as easy to give from one human to the other,
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  Speaker 2: as COVID was. It does have a higher mortality rate.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: It's about thirty five percent of people that get it
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: end up dying. But the ability for it to spread
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  Speaker 2: quickly and to spread to a lot of people is
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  Speaker 2: kind of inhibited by the fact that it doesn't normally
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: spread human to human. The strain that they were worried
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: about here can and has minimally, but not on the
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: rate of reproduction the way the COVID virus did. COVID virus,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: if you were around someone, even just in the same
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  Speaker 2: area where they were, you probably go COVID. This does
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: not spread that way, and we're gonna find out why
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: and hear why. More about that coming up. But speaking
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: of COVID, the CIA whistleblower that testified before the Senate
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Homeland Security Committee about COVID origins came forward at great
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  Speaker 2: personal risk because quote, the truth was being buried, so
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: said Senator Ran Paul Wednesday as he opened the hearing
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  Speaker 2: to go after this. Special Operations Officer James Erdman third
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  Speaker 2: was issued a subpoena to appear before Paul's panel today.
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  Speaker 2: While he was issued at on May fifth, he appeared today.
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  Speaker 2: He's previously testified in a classified setting before the Committee.
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  Speaker 2: He's a decorated officer with decades of intelligence and national
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  Speaker 2: security experience. Before joining the CIA in twenty thirteen, he
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: was with the second Battalion, the seventy fifth Ranger Regiment
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  Speaker 2: and as a Foreign Service officer at the Department of State.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: He recently completed a joint duty assignment with the Office
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  Speaker 2: of Director of National Intelligence. Director of Initiatives Group, said
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  Speaker 2: Rand Paul. Mister Erdmun holds a Bachelor of Science and
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  Speaker 2: Biology with a minor in chemistry from Western Oregon University
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  Speaker 2: and received a Director of National has received the Director
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  Speaker 2: of National Intelligence National Intelligence Award and the CIA Intelligence
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  Speaker 2: Medal of Merit Award. Why does all of that credentialing
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: matter because what he said today was shocking in terms
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: of how little the government felt it was responsible to
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: keep things truthful when it came to the COVID vaccine.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: In fact, there was very little that was as it
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  Speaker 2: appeared during the COVID time. And I only took note
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: of all of that because I noticed how many things
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: I would talk about and ask questions about and kind
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  Speaker 2: of think, this doesn't seem quite right, and I would
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  Speaker 2: say something about it, and then I.
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  Speaker 7: Would be.
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  Speaker 2: I would be you know, rebuked, et cetera, because the
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  Speaker 2: feeling there was, well, you know, the official word is
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: such and such, so I don't know that. To me,
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  Speaker 2: it is it is vital that we get all of
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: the information. Senator Paul feels the same way, and I'm
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: gonna ask doctor Robert Redfield about that as well. But
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: here's here's my issue. We know, without a shadow of
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  Speaker 2: a doubt that Anthony Fauci lied to the committee in
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Congress and by extension, the American people. We know he
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: said things that were materially misleading, and that that misleading
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  Speaker 2: nature was then followed up with harsh rebukes of anybody
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  Speaker 2: that contradicted it. And in the meantime, he's pushing for
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  Speaker 2: vaccines that we found out did not work. He's pushing
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: he's not pushing for therapeutics, which we really needed to
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: stop the transmission and to get the people cured faster.
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  Speaker 2: We should have been working on therapeutics the whole time
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  Speaker 2: we were working on vaccines. Vaccines did not work. They
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  Speaker 2: did not stop the spread from human to human. They
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  Speaker 2: may have lessened some of your personal symptoms, but that
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  Speaker 2: was about it. And speaking as someone who got COVID
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: and came through the other side, my bride got it twice.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: I was not pleased with the fact that in the
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  Speaker 2: aftermath we find out so much of what doctor Fauci
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: said was not accurate, and he has yet to really
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: be held accountable for it. So I'm hopeful that this
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: whistleblower today, who I think much of his testimony surrounded
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: the idea of the CIA relinquishing records and letting people
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: have kind of a transparent look at what their actually
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: were during the COVID pandemic. I'm hopeful that there will
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: be some revelations here that will take us down that path,
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  Speaker 2: because I think the American people deserve to know. I
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: think the American people deserve to know if their government
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  Speaker 2: lied to them, lied to them consistently, did not tell
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  Speaker 2: them the truth about what was happening in their own body,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: much less of those that they loved. You kept people separated.
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  Speaker 2: You had people having to bury loved ones that could
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: not wish them a proper farewell. It was and is
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: one of the largest stains on American history in terms
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: of how we handled it and what we did to people,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: the institutional buy in from all the states, from the
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: federal government, from anybody that wanted to keep their job,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: just saying yes, yes, yes, this is all correct, correct, correct,
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: We're just going to go along with it. Letting the teachers'
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: unions write curriculum for the schools during the pandemic, which
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: turned into a joke. My kids lost so much ground
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: during the pandemic. Finding out that off labeled drugs, hydroxychloroquin ivermectin,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: some other things that actually were effective but were made
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  Speaker 2: fun of and put down by the snooty class that
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: felt like they were so much more important and informed
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: than everybody else. Turns out they were wrong about those drugs,
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: that those drugs were actual effective therapeutics. Finding out that
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: if you trusted Fauci on what he said about the vaccine,
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: you weren't protecting yourself any better. Finding out that masks
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: made no difference, like literally zero difference in contracting COVID
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  Speaker 2: or not. These are the things that I think the
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  Speaker 2: American people feel very burned by. And so how we
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  Speaker 2: handle hantavirus, how we handle this information in this whistleblower scenario,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: this is all going to matter because the American people
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: have a trust issue when it comes to the government
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  Speaker 2: and the institutes of health, the big health agencies. We
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: don't trust government on health. I think one of the
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: ways they could resolve that is by pushing people closer
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  Speaker 2: to their doctor. Let you and your doctor make the
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: decision on what's best for you, not some bureaucrat in Trenton, Albany,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Washington anywhere else. It's just hideous. Kevin mcculluch very glad
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  Speaker 2: to have you with us. Doctor Robert Redfield is here.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: We will talk with him and a little bit later
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: on why a Christian summer camp could be the coolest
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  Speaker 2: thing for someone. And Kevin McCullough love to help you
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  Speaker 2: right back from New York.
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  Speaker 5: Here he is from New York that time, Kevin, Kevin McCollough.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back. It's that Kevin show that kevinshow dot Com
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  Speaker 2: from Time Square every day. But Times Square is not
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: what I want you to focus on right now. I
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  Speaker 2: want you to imagine going to the beautiful great outdoors,
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  Speaker 2: breathing fresh, clean air, seeing stars at night, feeling the
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: sunshine warm your skin. In the middle of the wonderful
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: spring and summer season that we are embarking upon, and
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: imagine for a child that's never experienced any of that before.
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  Speaker 2: Steve Collins is with us from Angel Tree Camping and
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Steve we were talking off air that for many years
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  Speaker 2: you have actually worked in an area of Christian camping
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  Speaker 2: and seeing children respond to this, and I have to
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  Speaker 2: think that, you know, for someone like me that grew
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  Speaker 2: up in the Burbs, camp was a big deal. It
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: was all I lived for in the second half of
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: the school year was to get to summer and get
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: to go to camp. And only imagine how much more
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: intensified that is for kids that grow up in public
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  Speaker 2: housing projects basically concrete brock block apartments with a lot
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: of heat and a lot of you know, dysfunction and
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: everything else. To get out of that environment and to
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  Speaker 2: be at a camp for the first time. What's been
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  Speaker 2: your personal experience in terms of what you see from
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: these kids and why is that first visit so special?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Thanks Kevin.
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  Speaker 15: It's amazing with kids get outside of their normal environment,
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  Speaker 15: which for most Anglistry kids is an urban environment and
• 52:35
  Speaker 15: get into the outdoor setting. It really has a tremendous
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  Speaker 15: impact on the way they think about themselves, the way
• 52:44
  Speaker 15: they think about their future, and the way they think
• 52:46
  Speaker 15: about God. And so you get these kids coming out
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  Speaker 15: into this outdoor setting where they're experiencing things that they've
• 52:53
  Speaker 15: never experienced before, you know, just even hiking through the woods,
• 52:57
  Speaker 15: swimming in a lake, some novel experiences like riding a
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  Speaker 15: zip line or horseback riding. These types of things studies
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  Speaker 15: have shown really have a tremendous benefit on the brain
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  Speaker 15: function in child development, and it starts to unlock new
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  Speaker 15: things in their mindset where they realize that I don't
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  Speaker 15: have to just be this way, and I don't have
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  Speaker 15: to just follow this course for my life, but there
• 53:25
  Speaker 15: are other possibilities available to me. And that is kind
• 53:29
  Speaker 15: of a key point in opening up the opportunity to
• 53:34
  Speaker 15: redirect a life into something beautiful that God's design.
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  Speaker 2: Well you're describing it. It almost sounds like it's a
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: neural pathway that they did not previously knew was available
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: to them that they're now sensing and experiencing stuff through exactly.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah, And so that outdoor setting, those new environments, and
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  Speaker 15: then the other key thing is just being loved to
• 53:56
  Speaker 15: be experiencing the love of God at camp. It opens
• 53:59
  Speaker 15: up the these new pathways and kids start to recognize,
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  Speaker 15: oh I can I can think about my life a
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  Speaker 15: little differently. I don't have to follow the same course
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  Speaker 15: maybe that I've seen in my family. I can choose
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  Speaker 15: a different route for my life. And there's just all
• 54:19
  Speaker 15: kinds of studies that show that this is really effective
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  Speaker 15: in helping kids to embrace a beautiful future.
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  Speaker 2: That is the data put on your camp director hat
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: into a moment where you've been managing camp, directing a
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Christian camp and you had an experience with a child
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  Speaker 2: that really spoke to you in terms of how much
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: it impacted the way they viewed God or the way
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: they viewed themselves or maybe both.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, I'll never forget this one particular child when
• 54:53
  Speaker 15: I was when I was actually a camp director and
• 54:55
  Speaker 15: we had an angel try child that came to our
• 54:57
  Speaker 15: camp and he was a big guy, bigger than me was.
• 55:03
  Speaker 15: He was probably fifteen years old, and he loved camp,
• 55:08
  Speaker 15: just embraced everything about camp. It just was provided just
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  Speaker 15: a great sense of joy for him. And one evening
• 55:15
  Speaker 15: we were wrapping up our chapel message and we were
• 55:18
  Speaker 15: dismissing the kids, and this camper came up to me
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  Speaker 15: and he just wanted to shake my hand and thank
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  Speaker 15: me for the message. And as I took his hand,
• 55:28
  Speaker 15: he put his head on my shoulder and just began
• 55:30
  Speaker 15: bawling and.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Crying, and I thought, what is going on?
• 55:35
  Speaker 15: And so once the chapel room kind of cleared out,
• 55:37
  Speaker 15: we sat down together, his counselor and I with him,
• 55:40
  Speaker 15: and he began to open up about the pain that
• 55:43
  Speaker 15: he was carrying due to his father's incarceration, you know,
• 55:46
  Speaker 15: and how that absence, you know, was just a heavy
• 55:51
  Speaker 15: burden for him. And really in some ways there was
• 55:53
  Speaker 15: a lot of a lot of shame and things. He
• 55:56
  Speaker 15: tried to keep that hidden from other people. And so
• 55:59
  Speaker 15: we were able to process with him, you know, how
• 56:01
  Speaker 15: God is a father who loves him, who will always
• 56:04
  Speaker 15: be there for him, and God restores and heals families,
• 56:06
  Speaker 15: and and God has a plan for his life. And
• 56:10
  Speaker 15: and we were able to pray together, and he left
• 56:13
  Speaker 15: that room with a renewed sense of hope for his
• 56:16
  Speaker 15: future because he recognized he didn't have to carry this
• 56:19
  Speaker 15: heavy burden. He could just embrace everything that God has
• 56:22
  Speaker 15: for him. And yeah, his dad was still incarcerated, but
• 56:25
  Speaker 15: he walked out of there and left camp that week
• 56:28
  Speaker 15: with a renewed sense of purpose.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Have you stayed in touch with him over the years?
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: Do you have any update on his story?
• 56:34
  Speaker 15: Since, you know, once I stepped out of camping, I
• 56:37
  Speaker 15: did lose touch with him, but we did keep in
• 56:38
  Speaker 15: touch for a little while. He continued coming back to
• 56:41
  Speaker 15: camp until he aged out of the program. But yeah, yeah,
• 56:46
  Speaker 15: just the next year he came to camp again and
• 56:49
  Speaker 15: just was so thankful and for all that Camp had
• 56:52
  Speaker 15: done in his life, you know, and the experiences that
• 56:54
  Speaker 15: he had there, and his relationship with God was continuing
• 56:58
  Speaker 15: to grow.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: And so it's just.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Friends, if you're listening to what Steve's saying and you say, well,
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: how can I provide that for an Angel Tree child?
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: This year? And again? These children, the one thing they
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: all have in common is that they all share that
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: same story that they have a parent, sometimes one, sometimes both,
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: sometimes the only parent that they have, sometimes a parent
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: that they may not know all that well. But whatever
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: the situation, they have a parent who's in prison, who's
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: gone through the prison Fellowship Bible Study program, who has
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: requested that their child be considered for inclusion into the
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Angel Tree program, and through people like you are given
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  Speaker 2: a scholarship to go and experience what that young man experienced.
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  Speaker 2: What was that man's name? What was that young boy's name?
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  Speaker 2: Steve and Tracy, so you can you can provide the
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  Speaker 2: exact same experience that Tracy experienced, and there will be
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  Speaker 2: a watershed of emotions and feelings and things that come
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  Speaker 2: through their heart and mind in that time and hopeful,
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: the prayer, the goal of all of it is that
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  Speaker 2: we faithfully point that child back to Jesus and to
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  Speaker 2: who have carried a lot of it in life, but
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  Speaker 2: it will get them out of their normal circumstances for
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  Speaker 2: a week, and in the process of doing so, will
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  Speaker 2: proactive ingredient in everything that's done. Why does that make
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  Speaker 2: a difference for people that are listening?
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  Speaker 15: Oh yeah, yeah, there's one thing that every angle try
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  Speaker 15: camp has in common. The activities might be different, but
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  Speaker 15: every child is going to hear the gospel presented when
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  Speaker 15: they're at camp, and that makes a huge difference. Because
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  Speaker 15: when a child believes that the only place he's going
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  Speaker 15: to find acceptance and belonging is in gangs, or the
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  Speaker 15: only place we'll find fulfillment is in crime, he's going
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  Speaker 15: to give himself over to those things. But in camp
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  Speaker 15: he learns that he can experience acceptance and belonging through
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  Speaker 15: the love of God and being a part of God's family,
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  Speaker 15: and he discovers that fulfillment in a relationship with Jesus Christ,
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  Speaker 15: and that changes the trajectory of a life. It just
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  Speaker 2: Sure well, friends, that is that's the goal. That's that's
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  Speaker 2: getting them to a place that's beautiful and having great
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  Speaker 2: experiences is a good thing, nothing wrong with that. Love that.
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  Speaker 2: But if we don't pour Jesus into them while they're there,
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  Speaker 2: we miss an opportunity. And so that's what I love
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  Speaker 2: about Angel Tree Camping. It is the primary ingredient of
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  Speaker 2: what they're doing, that that these kids feel loved by Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: They understand what He's done on their behalf. They understand
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  Speaker 2: what he's done on their parents' behalf. Angel Tree is
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  Speaker 2: not just in the business of getting prisoners saved or
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  Speaker 2: getting children, you know, cared for. It is in the
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  Speaker 2: business of reconciliation, of bringing families back together, of reuniting
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  Speaker 2: them with the God who made them, reconciling their hearts
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  Speaker 2: to one another. It is a beautiful thing. And I
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  Speaker 5: Here he is from New York, that Kevin. Kevin McCullough,
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  Speaker 5: So glad to have you with us.
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  Speaker 2: It's that Kevin Show, That Kevin Show dot Com from
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  Speaker 2: Times Square every single day, and I will say, over
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  Speaker 2: the last few weeks, not just my bride but several
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: people that knew of the coverage that we did during
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: COVID started calling and saying, Kevin, what's going on with hannahvirus?
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: You always talk to the most informed people. What are
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: they saying? And I said, well, let me get some
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: of them on the show so that we can begin
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: to break this down. And to my great delight, doctor
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: Robert Redfield is back with us. He's a virologist, public
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: health leader, advocated during COVID for very common sense policies
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: and even after COVID examining some of the things that
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: should have been done differently, and will hopefully the next
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: time a major incident like that takes place. But doctor Redfield,
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  Speaker 2: welcome back. Let me first just ask you, do you
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  Speaker 2: have as serious a concern about hantavirus as anything related
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: to the COVID pandemic.
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  Speaker 17: No, Kevin, I think you know this outbreak is really
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  Speaker 17: coming to an end. It's going to be a limited outbreak.
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  Speaker 17: There may be a few more cases just because of
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 17: some of the mixing of some of the crew's passengers
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 17: in transferring home.
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  Speaker 1: Prior to.
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  Speaker 17: The CDC picking up people at the Canary Islands, there
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  Speaker 17: was a big exodus of passengers at Saint Helena.
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  Speaker 1: A number of them got on airplane.
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  Speaker 2: In number like twenty something in number.
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  Speaker 17: Yeah, I think I'll think twenty seven or something, and
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  Speaker 17: you know, they may see some secondary cases from that,
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  Speaker 17: but I think it's going to be very limited. And
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  Speaker 17: I think, you know, the CDC has really been ahead
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  Speaker 17: on this and their response has been totally appropriate. You know,
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  Speaker 17: hopefully many of the people that are currently in Nebraska
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  Speaker 17: and Emory, hopefully they'll elect to stay in those facilities
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  Speaker 17: for the forty two days because that's just going to
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 17: complicate things, you know, if they go home, even though
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  Speaker 17: they're going to stay isolated. But you know, the symptom
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 17: complex of early HANTA is so non descript that you
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 17: could see, you know, people feeling they have symptoms of fever,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 17: aches and pains, you know, headache, the asser intestinal symptoms
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  Speaker 17: and really they just have an intercurrent illness, but you'll
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  Speaker 17: never know. So I'm hoping most of them stay in
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 17: the facility. If I was one of those individuals, I
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 17: would choose to do that. The other reason i'd choose
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 17: to do that if I did get sick and have infection,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 17: there's no better place to be than those two facilities.
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  Speaker 17: Because they're very well prepared to take care of you
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  Speaker 17: if you have advanced to hantavirus infection.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about how HANTA is different
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  Speaker 2: than COVID. My understanding is COVID obviously was airborne and
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: it could be contracted in an airborne contact. Haunt of
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: virus is not the same. It requires more physical contact
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  Speaker 2: with the virus.
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  Speaker 17: No, it's actually usually airsol Also, I think one of
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  Speaker 17: the first major differences is when COVID came, we'd had
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  Speaker 17: no knowledge of how that virus infects humans.
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  Speaker 1: It was novel, it was new.
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  Speaker 17: The haunt of viruses we've dealt with since nineteen fifty.
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  Speaker 17: They were big problems for US. I happened to spend
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  Speaker 17: twenty something years in the US Army. They were big
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 17: problems for US in the Korean War because the haunt
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  Speaker 17: of virus is their reservoir is mice and rats, rodents,
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  Speaker 17: and then the urine and the feces. That's where the
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  Speaker 17: virus is. It gets into the ground. And in Korea,
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  Speaker 17: what happened was we started using helicopters and they would
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  Speaker 17: come in with the soldiers and they would aerosolize all
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 17: of the dust in the ground and then that that
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 17: would aerosolize the virus and then the soldiers would breathe
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  Speaker 17: it in and that's how they got infected. So most
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  Speaker 17: of the transmission is usually aerosolization. You know, we had
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  Speaker 17: the Four Corners disease a while back, people going into
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  Speaker 17: cabins that had been locked up and they sweep them
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  Speaker 17: and that aerosolizes the virus from the rat and mice excrement.
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  Speaker 17: You remember the Hackmans, they obviously had a hant of
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  Speaker 17: virus also probably similar. Normally, the haunt Of virus goes
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  Speaker 17: rodent to human, rodent to human, rodent to human. It
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  Speaker 17: doesn't go human to human. And there's one exception to that,
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  Speaker 17: one strain that's different than that, and that's called the
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  Speaker 17: Andy strain, and that is the strain that's in Argentina
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  Speaker 17: and Chile, and that is the strain that we're dealing
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  Speaker 17: with with this cruise outbreak that we're dealing with right now,
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  Speaker 17: so it can go human to human. The index cases
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  Speaker 17: of this infection were a husband and wife that were
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  Speaker 17: actually in Argentina when they most likely got infected bird watching.
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  Speaker 1: They brought the virus back to the ship.
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  Speaker 17: Obviously, they infected the doctor who was trying to take
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  Speaker 17: care of them, and then there was some other transmission,
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  Speaker 17: probably on the ship, although we don't know how many
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 17: of those other cruise line passengers could have gotten infected
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  Speaker 17: in Argentina, but clearly they've shown evidence that this virus
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  Speaker 17: has gone human to human in this outbreak.
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  Speaker 1: Although it's not the easiest.
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  Speaker 17: It's aerosol, that's mostly how I get it, but as
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  Speaker 17: you pointed out, you can also get up by contact.
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  Speaker 17: If I get the virus on my hands and then
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  Speaker 17: rub my mouth or eyes or nose, I can autoinoculate myself.
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  Speaker 2: So really common sense stuff for people that are concerned.
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  Speaker 2: Lots of hand washing, lots of just common sense sanitation
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  Speaker 2: and regular goody.
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  Speaker 1: Just wash your hands. You're not going to get for example,
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  Speaker 1: You're not, you know.
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  Speaker 17: And it can confuse people when they see the TV
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  Speaker 17: and they see these people and has mass suits, you know,
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  Speaker 17: and they see everybody picking them up with VENTI respirators
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 17: on them. The truth is I could be sitting in
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  Speaker 17: the room and there'd be no risk to me whatsoever.
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  Speaker 1: You know. In general, now there is.
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  Speaker 17: Some exceptions of a fairly well reported case in Argentina
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  Speaker 17: back it was reported New England Journal in twenty eighteen.
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  Speaker 17: I think the paper was published in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 5: Here he is from New York. That Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 2: Today on Capitol Hill, You've got whistleblowers talking about what
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: should have been done differently when it came to doctor Fauci,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: and you know, some of the funding for some of
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: the labs and some of the things that we did.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: And I'm just curious, do you feel like America has
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  Speaker 2: significantly learned It's lesson enough from the COVID experience that
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: we will handle the next big challenge the right way?
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  Speaker 17: You know, Kevin, I don't really. I'm went in for
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 17: quick advertisement book, my new book, that's it at Redfield's warning,
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  Speaker 17: and I don't think we've learned our lesson. And part
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 17: of the reason I wrote my book was that I
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  Speaker 17: hope people will read it, and I hope we'll start
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 17: getting people more interested. I argue that biosecurity is really
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 17: the major national security threat that our nation has. It's
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 17: actually much more significant than nuclear. Although we pay a
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 17: lot of attention to nuclear, we don't pay so much
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 17: attention to the biosecurity and even the Hanta outbreak that
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 17: we just have right now. It should tell you something.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 17: We have no vaccine for Hanta. We have we have
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 17: no anti virals for Hanta. We just have supportive care.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 17: We need to take a different posture towards being prepared
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 17: for viral threats. The one I talk about a lot
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  Speaker 17: in the book that I'm worried about is bird flu.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 17: Of course, then bird flu has a potential mortality of
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 17: thirty forty fifty percent in humans, and I personally think
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 17: it's going to cause a devastating pandemic. I call the
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 17: covid pandemic the lesser pandemic. I call the bird flu
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 17: pandemic a major pandemic, which I'm worried about.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: But I don't think we've learned lessons.
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  Speaker 17: Part of what you saw on Ron Paul's hearing, and
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  Speaker 17: in one of the frustrations, I know if you watch
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 17: the hearing, but if you watch the hearing, not a
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  Speaker 17: single Democrat showed up for the hearing, and that's bothersome
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  Speaker 17: because they were just trying to have oversight of something
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 17: that is relatively significant. I mean, the United States government,
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  Speaker 17: through multiple agencies, State, Department, USAID, nihn DOOD funded the
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 17: research lab in Wuhan to do this research, which then
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 17: led to the development of a virus that can infect humans,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 17: which then accidentally, and I do believe accidentally escaped the
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  Speaker 17: laboratory and caused a pandemic.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: That killed over twenty million people.
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  Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, there ought to be some accountability in all
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  Speaker 17: of that as very disappointing, even though I always felt
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 17: this was the case that our intelligence community helped cover
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 17: this up, but the Wilstar blower made it pretty clear
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 17: that the CIA was deeply involved in misinforming the American public,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 17: which is really unfortunate.
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  Speaker 2: Well, liken to that, doctor Fauci was in front of
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  Speaker 2: Senator Paul multiple times, and as far as I'm concerned,
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  Speaker 2: from the knowledge that I had of just reading basic
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: news reports and trying to stay up to date on
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: what was happening day to day, lied under oath to
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: the Senate Committee multiple times. And I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: we've allowed that to go unaddressed.
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  Speaker 17: But hopefully he clearly misinformed the American public. There's no
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 17: doubt about that. He clearly intentionally misled the American public
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 17: and helped was part of that intelligence community cover up.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 17: It's a technicality, you know, I think whether or not
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 17: he lied in the sense of this, Tony is very
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 17: careful in his words. He would say, according to the
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 17: definition of the National Academy of Science, I didn't do.
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  Speaker 2: And I understand all that right, But you know, he
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: mentioned people.
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  Speaker 17: He misinformed people, clearly a technicality. And you know, I'm
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 17: a big fan of Senator Paul. You know she is
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 17: through the the time course for him to be called
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 17: on the carpet, I think it ended on Monday. But
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 17: the fact is he did misinform the American public, and
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 17: it would be useful to have that clarified very clearly,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 17: that he did misinform the American.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: Public, and to know that he invested heavily in Pfizer
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: and some of the like. He had a really good pandemic.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: Most of us didn't make thirty million dollars over the
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: same period of times. It's concerning, and that's why I've
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: said on my show for the last couple of years,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: I think that there's even though Trump's in office and
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: we've got, you know, in my estimation, good people in
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: some of these positions, now, there's still a lot of
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: trust that's been broken, and it's going to take a
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: massive effort to gain that back because COVID destroyed it.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: That's the real want.
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  Speaker 17: I talk about Redfield's warning in my book. There's three
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 17: major warnings. Once the biosecurity and gain a function research.
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  Speaker 17: The others you know that the great pandemic is coming
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 17: in the bird flu pandemic. But the other one that's
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 17: really important is the loss of public trust. And you
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 17: can't have public health without public trust. And you know,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 17: part of the problem was the Biden administration didn't trust
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 17: the public, all.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: Right, and that's why they mandated everything. Right, But and
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: now the public doesn't trust the government.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 17: And you know, hopefully this Hanta experience where the public sees,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 17: you know, the system work, maybe it gains a little,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 17: but I think rebuilding that public trust is are going
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 17: to be a real, real hard thing to do, and
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 17: it's important. And I do ask people in the public
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 17: to try to work with the current public leaders, who
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 17: I have a lot of faith in, to see if
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 17: we can begin to rebuild that public trust.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: Well, I think one of the best steps they could take,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: should we, god forbid, have another outbreak of something, is
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: to really layer on the ability for people to talk
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: to their personal doctors about what they should do in
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: those circumstances. I think one of the gravest errors that
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: we made were governors and attorney generals and other people
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: making medical decisions for folks. When you've got people like
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: Governor Cuomo who shoved sick COVID infected people in with
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: elderly and obese people at nursing homes and you put
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: the most vulnerable population with the sickest people, and you
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: just lost tens of thousands of folks. And the idea
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: that we shut down all the medical practitioners' offices and
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: he had to go to the emergency room to get
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: the vaccine and so forth, that to me, never made sense,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: And I think average Americans went, this is nuts. I
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: want to talk to my doctor. He's the only one
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: who really knows what I'm dealing with and what I've
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: gone through. And I think that by sharing some of
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: the idea that government doesn't know everything, and we're going
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: to empower the doctors that the patients are most intimately
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: familiar with to be a helpful decision maker or supporting
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: voice in their decisions. I think that's where you got
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: to start. So the book is out, where can they
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: find it? Just every Amazon. Barnesay, Amazon is the best place.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: Amazon has it both audio and regular print. And encourage
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: people to read it. I think they'll find it very useful. Actually, well,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry I didn't mention it, but Redfield's warning go
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: and get it, friends, and make sure that you are
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: more prepared for the next time it rolls around. Doctor
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: Robert Redfield. We appreciate everything you've done for our country,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: Appreciate your voice, appreciate you speaking up. Thanks for being
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: with us.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, Kevin, God bless.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: Kevin mccalloch, coming right back from New York.
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  Speaker 18: Don't go right stick around for more that Kevin next,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 18: serving it up with a no drink MINTI.
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  Speaker 2: It's that show. So good to welcome you back. Thank
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: you for being here, Kevin McCollough on this Wednesday. Very
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: interesting discussions we've had this hour, and I am hopeful
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: that we helped you in some way. But when I
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: saw this final story, I thought I got to get
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: this in somehow. Carnivores from far and wide descended recently
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: in Gatlingburg, Tennessee, to partake in what's called meat Stock,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: a convention for followers of meat based diets. The weekend
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: gathering featured presentations from experts and panels and vendors on
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: carnivore and keto diets, as well as biohacking. Nine out
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: of ten Americans are metabolically metabolically unfit, said one contributor,
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  Speaker 2: Nathan Bryan. He's a Texas biochemist. Two out of three
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  Speaker 2: Americans have an unsafe elevation of blood pressure, and nearly
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  Speaker 2: half of people in America are diabetic or pre diabetic.
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  Speaker 2: That can be attributed to the foods we eat. He
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  Speaker 2: said he was extremely compelled by stories from the attendees
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  Speaker 2: who talked about how much weight they lost and autoimmune
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  Speaker 2: diseases they cured by switching to a meat based diet.
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  Speaker 2: He said, what I found at meat Stock was people
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  Speaker 2: who eat mainly just meat based diet, high protein and
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  Speaker 2: really good fats with limited or no carbs or plants.
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  Speaker 2: These people seem to be the healthiest, and then they're
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  Speaker 2: able to reverse disease without drug therapy. These outcomes are
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  Speaker 2: self reported by attendees are not broadly established in clinical research. However,
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  Speaker 2: meat centric eating has its fair share of critics. Tara Schmidt,
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  Speaker 2: a registered dietitian instructor with the Maeoclinic caution that carnivore
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  Speaker 2: type diets put people at risk of missing out on
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  Speaker 2: essential nutrients like fiber, calcium, and vitamin D. They also
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  Speaker 2: lack of balance and are too restrictive to be sustainable
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  Speaker 2: long term for many people. Having said that, you've got
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  Speaker 2: people that have claimed that they rest reversed autoimmune diseases
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  Speaker 2: and lost weight by eating primarily meat. This is an
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  Speaker 2: incredible reality when you see that it has in fact happened.
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  Speaker 2: The science presented at the meat Stock convention was intriguing.
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  Speaker 2: Some people came away from academia, as a former professor
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  Speaker 2: of medicine putting a lot of emphasis on the science
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  Speaker 2: and clinical data behind these diets, and he said it
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  Speaker 2: was impressive. The US Department of Health and Human Services
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  Speaker 2: and the US Department of Agriculture unveiled a new food
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  Speaker 2: Pyramid dietary guidelines for Americans earlier this year. The updated
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  Speaker 2: guidance reflects a broader shift in federal nutrition messaging while
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  Speaker 2: also prompting debate among health experts. The new guidelines encourage
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  Speaker 2: people to quote eat a variety of protein foods from
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  Speaker 2: animal sources, including red meat, and they are a departure
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  Speaker 2: radical departure from previous recommendations that emphasize carbohydrates and plants.
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  Speaker 2: The new guidelines have attracted much scrutiny. In an article
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  Speaker 2: on the release of the new guidelines, for instance, you
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  Speaker 2: see Berkeley Public Health reported when the federal government issued
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  Speaker 2: its recommendation for a healthy diet last week, many nutritionists
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  Speaker 2: and healthcare providers were appalled. It is widely believed that
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  Speaker 2: misinformation about nutrition dates back to Ansel Keys, as physiologist
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  Speaker 2: whose Seven Countries study is responsible for many accepted modern
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  Speaker 2: ideas about cholesterol and heart disease. However, many nutrition researchers
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  Speaker 2: say that continue to cite Keys's work as foundational, even
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  Speaker 2: as aspects of it have been debated over time. But friends,
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  Speaker 2: they're not disputing the findings. During an address to the
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  Speaker 2: National Cattleman's Beef Association in February, HHS Secretary Robert Kennedy
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  Speaker 2: declared that the war on protein is over. Brian himself
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  Speaker 2: is not a strict carnivore, but each one of his
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  Speaker 2: meals includes some form of protein, mainly red meat. He
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  Speaker 2: also fasts for eighteen hours a day. As I don't know,
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