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Hey, welcome, welcome, welcome. Today is October the 19th.
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You could be anything, right? And I want you to know I am live
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on TikTok. So if you are more of a TikTok
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fan than any all these other ones, go on it, check it out.
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We will be here all for the next hour and a half, two hours
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anyway. And guess what, I've missed you
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all. It has been what, almost a month
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since I saw you last and so much has happened.
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Thank you for the little time that you that we got together.
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And also also, yes, I know some of you are inquiring about my
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book. Yes, well, my book LED into
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emotional events that I either had suppressed or I had to
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remember and live through them in order to push forward like we
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all do. That's what this whole thing is
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about. Sometimes these little seeds get
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back into us and we're like, whoa, where'd that come from?
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Oh, and we're like, that's amazing because sometimes we
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don't even understand why we get angry, upset, depressed, anxious
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and nerved, you know, pissed at somebody who says something and
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you're like, oh, that hit deep, right?
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And you want to get so angry and then you're looking at it going
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now, why am I getting angry? Where is it that I left go of
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that? Where where is it?
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Good morning, TikTok. I know I'm on TikTok fan.
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So if you keep seeing me come here, it's because I keep seeing
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people on my side screen checking in and I see you all
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over here on my YouTube. I'm all over the place.
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But it's so much fun because I missed being on air.
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And today, as I promised, we are going to do the 9 choirs of
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Angels, which you hear a lot of talk about people who are in a
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near death event. And I am going to talk to you
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about my near death event and thinking maybe that's what we're
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seeing when we do it. Who knows?
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I don't know, you don't know. Nobody knows until we actually
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crossover. But it is fun to theorize and
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philosophy about it. So we know this, we know the
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drill. We already know the drill by
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now. This is how it works.
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We get to get our Angel number of the day daily briefing and
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then we get into our show. So don't forget if you have a
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question, you have a comment, put it up.
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I'll do my best to answer it. Yes, same as you my beautiful
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TikTok people. If there is anything out there
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that you want, hold on. See, I can't see so and Yep,
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Nope, nothing there. So we will just play it step by
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step. So what does today mean?
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At 10/19/26, that resulting number is A1.
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Hey, we're starting at 1. Here we go.
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We are our first day back, so of course we have to start at one.
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And the angels urge you to put yourself first.
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It is important to maintain your own personal energy levels to
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achieve perfect health and emotional well-being.
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With increased energy levels you become a more powerful
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individual. You will then be able to love
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and care for yourself and also others generously.
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Your Angel power word today is freedom.
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So I wore my Jervis drop. I don't know if you can see it.
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I know tik tokers can I have freedoms.
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Just another word today on because it is freedom, right?
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That's what we all look for is the freedom to do and to speak
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and to just be glorified that we are capable of our free will.
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And today there's are some numbers connected like 19 angels
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are here to advise you that a perfectly difficult period of
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time is coming to an end. And the angels have been ever
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present, sending you powerful rays of light and healing to
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assist you. A positive outcome awaits you
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and there are happy times up ahead.
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Your Angel number also contains the number 10.
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You are surrounded with love and light from all your angels.
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They are sasking and to maintain in an attitude of gratitude.
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This positively will assist you your visualizations to manifest
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quickly into form. Also, your number contains 26.
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We know this one right? Since we're in the year of 26.
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It happens all year. It happens now what, 10 months
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in a row? The angels know that you feel
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empowered when you feel compassion for others.
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That word compassion was my word of the year and it has brought
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me so much joy. Sometimes people pick a word
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because here it is again. When you feel compassion for
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others, they now ask that you feel the same compassion for
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yourself. It is a very important time to
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say no to requests that make you feel uneasy.
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Trust these sensations in your body as these are your inner
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compass. Today also contains the number
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92. The angels would like you to
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remove any obstacles that make you feel chopped in situations
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or in relationships. Fear is the biggest controlling
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factor that keeps us stuck, not moving forward in an unpleasant
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situation. Hand over all those fears and
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trust that your angels will see safe and sound and place you in
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liberating new territories. You can choose to fly freely
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with the help of angels. Good morning.
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Good morning. I see you all.
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Thank you so much. Thank you.
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OK, here we go. We're going back baby.
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We're going back. Back to the beginning or back to
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0. Which one is it?
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You tell me which which phrase you like better.
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Do you like back to 0 or do you like just coming forward?
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OK, so today our with our opening.
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The subject has always been part of a religious for centuries,
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right? The nine choir of angels.
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And yet I wonder at just how many people out there really
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know about the nine choir of angels now.
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Again, I grew up Catholic until I was about 28 years old.
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My mother made certain that my faith was part of that
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foundation. She gave us to our children.
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And I knew about the guardian angels, I knew about Michael and
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Gabriel, and I knew about the angels appearing in the Bible
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and through the Bible studies. Yet I don't remember learning
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the complete 9 choirs in a way that stayed with me.
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Let me show you what I'm talking about when they say the nine
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choirs. Let me see if I can't do all of
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this. So the 9 choirs, here we are.
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There it is, there it is. OK, let me go here.
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Nope. Let me go here.
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Yeah, there it is. OK, The nine choirs of angels.
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These are the 9 steps of the 9 choirs and angels that they want
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to talk about, right? So I'm just going to keep that
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up there for a moment so that we all can peruse it as needed.
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Not sure what happened. My screen is not functionating.
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Maybe Joel can help me behind the scenes.
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Doesn't really matter anyway. TikTok viewers, if you Google 9
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choirs of angels, you will be able to see that same thing that
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I'm showing online right now. So that raises my first
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question. If angels are so important to
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Christianity, why do so many Christians know about guardian
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angels and archangels, yet know so little about the other seven
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orders? Interesting, right?
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And here's another question. Are these 9 choirs different
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levels of heaven and are they the pearly gates that people
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talk about? Do they determine where our
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souls go after death or are they involved in the judgement day?
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Are we mixing together several different teachings?
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Possibly, Who knows? Today we're going to navigate
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and we're going to do this investigation because there are
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so many questions when people say what is that night choir of
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angels? And that is the sign I have up
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there. So these are part and parcel of
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the 9:00. I'm going to remove it.
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Bam, bye bye. OK, back to I don't know what's
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happening. Maybe Joel has to fix it.
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My screen's not coming up. There I am.
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All right. Well, if it looks good for you,
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it looks good for me, right? Let's keep moving anyhow.
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So today in our investigation and then later, I'm going to
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share why the subject brought me back to experiences that I had
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in 2009 and 2015 and I believe in 2025 it happened the same
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way. What is divine trying to say?
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Because something happened during our consciousness studies
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that caused me to revisit what I remembered seeing and hearing.
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Isn't that something? So I didn't suddenly discover
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the identity of what I encountered.
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I discovered another question and you know me, I'm not Why
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girl, I can't, I can't just let things go.
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You know how it is. So when I question and that
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appears, then I really want to understand why, because that's
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extremely important to me to understand why.
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So then where did the 9 choirs originate from?
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Well, first, angels did not begin with Christianity.
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Let's start there. What I know.
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But they didn't in ancient Hebrew scriptures contain
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descriptions of heavenly messengers such as seraphin,
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cherubim, and visions of God's heavenly throne.
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In Isaiah we read about 6 winged seraphins, and in Ezekiel we
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encounter extraordinarily descriptions of living beings
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being wings, wheels and presence in divine glory.
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I know, Quinky dink. I don't know.
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I'm liking the way it sounds though, because then we go to
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Daniel and we find references of Michael and Gabriel.
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Later Christian writings also maintain Thrones, dominions,
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principalities, and powers. Yet the Bible does not present
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all nine choirs together in one complete chart.
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The chart that I was showing you.
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That arrangement became influential through a Christian
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metaphysical writer known as Pseudo Dionysus in Era Pagetti.
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Here, I'm going to put him on the screen.
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Hold on. Right there he is.
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Look at that guy. That's Pseudo Dionysus, isn't
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he? A isn't he a handsome creature?
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OK, well they had he had writings around the end of the
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5th century and the beginning of the 6th.
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His book was called the Celestial Hierarchy.
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So if you want to look this little dude up and look up
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Celestial Hierarchy, maybe you'll get some more interesting
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little facts. I'm going to take him off the
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screen. OK and remove.
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OK. He organized the 9 angelic
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orders into the groups of those 3 levels.
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Centuries later, Thomas Aquinas examined and developed his
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angelic theology further. And here's what fascinates me.
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I hope it does for you, too. I hope I know it will.
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Our little dude there, Pseudo Dionysus, acknowledged that only
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the divine Creator fully understands the nature and
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number of heavenly beings. Huh.
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Think about that for a moment. The man whose writings became so
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influential in describing the 9 choirs also recognized the
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limits of human understanding. Consciousness.
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Isn't that fun? Now why is that important?
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Because somewhere along the way, humanity can become so attached
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to the labels that we create that we forget what those labels
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were originally attempting to explain.
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The purpose of the hierarchy was not simply to give nine
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different names to angels. It was to describe how divine
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wisdom, illumination, and order are communicated through
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creation. Now here we are back to wise
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right? Why does Christianity consider
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the 9 choirs important? I'm a why girl.
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Well, we have to begin with the Creator.
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So in the Christian mystical understanding, God is the
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ultimate source of light, wisdom, love, and divine order.
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The heavenly beings participate in that divine order according
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to their different functions. Pseudo Dionysus describes 3
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important spiritual processes. First one was purification, the
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second illumination, perfection, or movement toward union with
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God. Purification concerns releasing
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what obscures spiritual understanding, and illumination
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concerns receiving greater divine wisdom.
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And here we are. Perfection concerns deeper
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participation in divine goodness.
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Notice something here? Notice these are not 9 physical
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doors that a person must walk through to reach heaven, and
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it's not what that means. They're principles of spiritual
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transformation. And they give us a way to
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understand why Christian Mystics study the angels in the first
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place. They were studying the
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relationships between the creator, heavenly beings and
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humanity. Getting somewhere right.
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They were contemplating how divine wisdom might be received,
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expressed and communicated. Thank you.
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Thank you. On TikTok, Yes.
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OK. If you're not on TikTok, you
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should be because there's some really cool things going on.
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Yes, that's right. The winged masters.
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Yes, we see those. Yes.
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And so they were contemplating how divine wisdom might be
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received, expressed, and communicated.
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And this is where I would ask everyone listening to consider
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something. If the purpose of spiritual
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learning is to develop greater understanding, what happens when
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we memorize a teaching without contemplating its meaning?
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We know the names, we know the categories, yet have we
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developed awareness? There's that word awareness.
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That's the difference between collecting information and
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understanding why that information matters.
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OK, so that brings us to our first, our first break.
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And I'm going to try something, folks.
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I'm going to try something new and I've been trying with it all
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morning. So bear with me because this is
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new time for new change and to try to figure out little things
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of life. And I'm going to do my bestest
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in order to bring it to you. So Amber, as I told you before,
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wrote these two beautiful songs through her systems.
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And I'm going to remove myself from the screen and you're going
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to listen to him for our break because I don't know how else to
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do it. But on TikTok, you'll still see
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me. OK, let's put it up.
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Let's take me. Here we go.
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Are we back? We're back.
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I don't know how that worked on the other side, but I'm going to
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go with perfectly because everything in my life goes
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perfectly. You're right.
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So not true. So not true anyway, so that was
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one of the songs like I said, and I'm gonna try to figure it
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out. I know I had a conversation this
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morning with Jewel big old age train and he said MJ just put it
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in Canva and I'm like great Canva.
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Oh my personally hatred friend, you hateful shrew Canva.
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So let's just keep going forward.
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OK so when we beat before we took the break.
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Now I want to go into the first fear which is divine presence.
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So here we go, let's dig in. Let's meet the first 3 choirs.
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They are the Seraphin, the Cherubin, and the Thrones.
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So the seraphins right? So that is divine love.
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The seraphins are traditionally associated with burning divine
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love. Isaiah describes them with six
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wings surrounding God's throne. Their name is associated with
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burning or fiery intensity. Fire, right?
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Fire. Remember that?
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That's an element. Really interesting.
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Remember that chair bin is divine wisdom.
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OK, so the chair bins are associated with divine wisdom
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and knowledge. And I want to clarify something.
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The little winged babies that you see in the paintings are in
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churches over in Europe are not the same as the extraordinary
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beings described in Ezekiel. They're not.
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Those biblical visions contain imagery that is complex,
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powerful and very different from the familiar human shaped Angel.
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Interesting. Right?
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Now we go to the Thrones. Divine justice.
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There's are them. They are.
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We have Thrones. They have and are associated
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with divine stability, justice, and receptivity of God's
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authority. Some later interpretations
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associate them with Ezekiel's remarkable wheels, although that
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identification is interpreted rather then explicit in a
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biblical passage. Now look at those three
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together, Love, wisdom and divine order.
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What else do we need? Right?
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Wisdom can translate into consciousness because once any
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event finds the balance of love, which you get the wisdom for
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that balance right and balances unity, then you have positive
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consciousness. Ha, look at that word right?
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Not 3 competing powers either. These are three expressions that
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participate in the Creator's presence and in the mystical
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hierarchy. These are the doors understood
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as the nearest of God. So here we go.
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It's the second sphere. Now the second sphere is divine
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governance and our second group. It contains dominions, virtues
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and powers, Dominions, divine governance.
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Dominions are associated with the ordering and coordination of
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spiritual responsibilities. Virtues, these are divine
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strength. Virtues are associated with
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divine strength. Is the member that word
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strength? That's a mind power center and
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in some later Christian interpretations, miracles and
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wonders. Then we go to powers.
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These are spiritual protection, mind, look at mind power.
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I just said, isn't that funny? How would that word that we just
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described, order, that's a divine mind power, order.
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Think about these things. Strength, that's a mind power,
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and we go down to powers. Powers are associated with
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spiritual protection and the defense of divine order.
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Now I want you to think about the difference between authority
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and control, two different things.
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Humanity often confuses these two too.
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Authority within divine order has these theologians described
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it, was not supposed to reflect human ego or the desire to
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dominate. It was participation in a
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greater, wider purpose. And that same distinction
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matters when we talk about protection.
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It really does. In spiritual relationships,
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protection can involve more than physical safety.
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It can include remaining aligned and with what a tradition
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understands as divine goodness, nice divine goodness.
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So this is the one reason I enjoy studying different
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religions. The language changes, the
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symbols change, and the theology changes.
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Yet certain questions continue to appear in no matter what
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boxed religion or denomination that you study.
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What is divine order? What is protection and what is
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the relationship between power and responsibility?
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And how does humanity participate in creation?
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Interesting, right? Very interesting.
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So let's just move then to the third sphere, communication with
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humanity. Now we reach our final three.
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It is the Principalities, the Archangels and the angels.
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Now these are common because this is what you always hear
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about, right? So in the principalities, these
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are communities and nations, right?
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Principalities are traditionally associated with the spiritual
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oversight of communities, nations, and people.
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Archangels, divine messengers. Now archangels are associated
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with significant divine messages and missions.
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Hence military. What do we have?
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The beautiful Saint Michael army, Right?
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So Michael is associated with spiritual defense.
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Gabriel. Love Gabriel.
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He is associated with divine announcements and revelations.
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Gabriel brings beautiful messages for us in what we
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consider. Well.
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That just thought just popped in my head.
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Are you sure it wasn't Gabriel? No, no, think about it.
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Raphael, recognized in the Book of Tabit, is associated with
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healing and guidance. How many people wear the little
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emblem on them when they are ill or have severe disease or severe
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illness, and they call upon Archangel Raphael for the
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assistance to heal them? So angels, angels, messengers
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and guardians, And finally there are angels.
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The order must familiar to many Christians.
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Messengers of God, guardians of God, guardians of light, angels
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to protect me. Lay over my bed, right?
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All four corners on my bed, all four angels overhead.
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Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. God bless the bed I lay up on.
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Does anybody else know those? Those associated with divine
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assistance and guidance in human form?
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Here's something important Christianity does not provide a
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complete biblical list of individual names for all nine
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choirs, And not every Christian denomination teaches the full
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hierarchy in the same way. Catholic and Eastern Orthodox
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traditions preserve it prominently.
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Many Protestant churches affirm angels while placing less
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emphasis on the 9 order management or the arrangement.
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So a person may have practiced Christianity their entire life
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and never formally studied all nine.
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Now let me explain Christianity since 2026 years ago when it
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started developing through the Hebrews and the order of divine
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Christ life, that Bible has changed over 4000 times.
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I said I used to say like 400 times.
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Oh no, anytime that you, you can Google it.
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Go ahead, use your little AI box.
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Google it. How many times has the Bible
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been reinterpreted over 4000? Wow, so can you understand if
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you are going to interpret another interpretation and then
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interpret another interpretation and then interpret another
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interpretation and then interpret another?
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How many interpretations of man? Man, right?
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Not even God anymore, man. And how ironic is it that some
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things that were considered in the original passages is just
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gone, just like today's life, right?
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We go through era and we go through decades.
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Is that right or wrong? It's what you believe.
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Is it plausible that the original Bible and the
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scriptures that were written that has now been interpreted
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over 4000 different times? And you ask a Christian, ask any
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Christian, if they're a Christian, ask them, are you
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Orthodox? Where are you in your
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Christianity? Because there are some
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Christians who believe in reincarnation and there are some
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Christians who do not believe in reincarnation.
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And I have both sides into my realm in which on my daily life,
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in my family's, I have Ozzy's family, I have my own family.
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Ironically, the Catholics do not believe that you're going to
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reincarnate. They don't.
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They they believe that you will ascend up to the highest and
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then you will live in that space and that time of your soul will
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continuously live with all of your ancestors that had
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originally kept over you through your lifespan.
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Where there's other sides of Christianity that believe that
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you will reincarnate, that all of our bodies are of
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reincarnation. OK, that's for a later show.
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That's not this one. I just want to put it a fact out
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there because if you are a Christian going, we don't
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believe in reincarnation and we don't believe in the 9 yard.
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This is why. Because you might be studying
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Christianity in a different interpretation of man.
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That's all I'm saying. It's not right.
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It's not wrong because I truly believe that religion is the
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foundation of every person trying to receive the level of
34:58
consciousness. It is the level to have faith.
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You must have faith in divine source.
35:06
No matter what you call it, no matter what religion, no matter
35:09
what denomination, anytime a highest power of God becomes
35:14
into an existence, no matter what you call it, you can call
35:16
Allah, you can call it Mahama, you can call it Allah.
35:20
I don't care. I don't care what you call your
35:22
God, right? It is a form of divination of
35:26
power, and that highest divination of power that exists
35:31
can be interpreted through the man's interpretation of that
35:35
religion. OK, enough said.
35:38
So that leads us to a larger question.
35:41
If the hierarchy describes the order of heavenly beings, then
35:46
what does Christianity teach about the journey of the human
35:52
soul? Well, we just talked a little
35:54
bit about that because that's where we need to separate
35:57
several ideas. Ascension, the pearly gates, and
36:02
judgement day. You heard those words especially
36:05
in Christianity. Those words you've heard before.
36:08
So let's begin with ascension. In Christianity, the ascension
36:14
most specifically refers to Jesus Christ ascending to
36:19
heaven. Christian Mystics Christian
36:24
Mystics also describes spiritual ascent, meaning growth toward
36:32
closer union of God. In some modern spiritual
36:37
traditions, the ascension describes expanding
36:41
consciousness or moving through higher densities.
36:46
That's where my expansion. This is the book I'm writing,
36:49
which is consciousness of humanities, the steps that
36:53
humans go through in order. So I actually give my a lot of
36:58
my life experiences and turmoils of how I've reached to positive
37:03
consciousness or what I call the awareness of Christ
37:07
consciousness. And this is the realm where I
37:11
don't like leaving. And when somebody pushes back
37:15
and it interferes with me trying to constantly move forward of a
37:19
positive consciousness, you will see with tears in my eyes, I'm
37:23
very sorrowful that I need to step out.
37:25
I need to step down. It has happened.
37:27
It's happened here with me on military broadcast.
37:30
It has happened in my groups of friends.
37:32
It has happened with my family. I, I love my journey and I love
37:37
the path going back to Father Mother God.
37:41
I cannot say enough that I not purposefully, but I will remove
37:49
individuals slowly from my being when I cannot understand a
37:55
unity, a balance, or an association.
37:58
I will love them from a distance, I will love them
38:01
within my heart, but I don't particularly want to be in that
38:05
space. Does that make sense?
38:07
And if I think if you would think about this by yourselves,
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I think that it might be the same thing.
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OK, It it might be going. How do I feel Like I just don't
38:16
want to go to this event, right? I just don't.
38:19
I just don't feel like I want to be within that energy.
38:23
Well, then you don't go, right? You can't kick yourself and then
38:28
try to heal yourself all the same time.
38:32
You make a decision and you stick with it and you be happy
38:35
about that decision because maybe there was an intuitive
38:38
instinct within the freedom of your will in order for you to
38:46
understand something. Maybe that situation or the
38:49
event is not healed yet. Maybe you don't want to have any
38:53
of that energy near you. There's a whole bunch of
38:55
different reasons for it. However, understanding is at
39:01
some point unity is balance. We need to figure it out.
39:06
There is no time. It's like grief.
39:08
Don't allow somebody to put a clock on you or a calendar are
39:11
you or a time space on you. Because sometimes these events
39:15
could be so deep into our past lives that you can't see
39:20
straight in this life of explaining that it doesn't make
39:23
sense all the time. And if it doesn't make sense
39:25
into the consciousness exactly, you don't know where to go.
39:30
So what does MJ say? Back to zero, folks.
39:33
Go back to zero. RIP it down, figure it out.
39:36
And if it's not in this lifetime, then find somebody who
39:39
can do Akashics or find somebody who can piece that together and
39:43
figure those out. Because sometimes it gets very
39:46
deep. So back to our beautiful 9
39:49
choirs of angels with the Christian Mystics that describe
39:52
that spiritual aspects, meaning that growth toward closer union
39:56
of God. In some modern spiritual
39:58
traditions though, the ascension describes expanding
40:02
consciousness or moving through high densities.
40:04
That's what we were talking about.
40:06
These ideas share certain words, yet they are not identical
40:12
teachings. Now the pearly gates, where did
40:16
those come from when somebody goes those pearly gates?
40:20
OK, I'm not the best singer in the world.
40:22
I love to sing because it raises my vibration.
40:24
But if you were in 4H or Girl Scouts, there was a song.
40:27
You can't get to heaven on a pair of roller skates 'cause
40:30
you're gonna roll right by those pearly gates.
40:33
I ain't gonna agree my Lord no more.
40:35
And then that's the like, there's a whole song to it.
40:38
So if you know the song, then you're probably gonna be put in
40:40
your head, 'cause you ain't gonna agree my Lord no more.
40:42
You ain't gonna agree my Lord no more.
40:45
You ain't gonna agree, my Lord, no more.
40:49
So I hope that I put some Girl Scout or some 4H your back going
40:53
aw man, there's that song in my head.
40:57
Dig deep. Those cobwebs.
40:58
Those cobwebs, because I was probably in my single digits
41:01
when I first heard that song. So anyway, where did those come
41:05
from? The Book of Revelation describes
41:08
that the New Jerusalem with 12 gates each formed from a Pearl.
41:18
I said that yeah, isn't that cool?
41:21
The Book of Revelation describes the New Jerusalem with 12 gates,
41:25
each formed from a Pearl. 12 gates, not 9.
41:30
What are we missing? And those gates are not
41:34
described as the 9 choirs of angels.
41:37
They're not. Then comes Judgement Day.
41:41
Bring out the Horn of Gabriel, right?
41:44
Because everybody believes Judgement Day is Archangel
41:47
Gabriel with his beautiful horn. In Christian Scripture, divine
41:51
judgement concerns human life, accountability, and the
41:55
relationship between humanity and God.
42:00
Matthew describes angels occupying or accompanying the
42:05
Son of Man at that judgement. Revelation describes the Great
42:11
White Throne, yet Scripture does not assign each of the 9 choirs
42:19
a separate judgement station. Interesting.
42:23
So now we have 4 different ideas.
42:29
The 9 choirs concern heavenly beings and their functions.
42:34
Ascension concerns Christ's ascent or in mystical language,
42:42
spiritual movement toward God consciousness.
42:48
The pearly gates belong to the vision of the New Jerusalem.
42:52
Judgment Day concerns divine judgment, and here's another
42:58
important distinction. Some Christians traditions teach
43:03
a particular judgment after death and a final judgment at
43:08
the end of time. Interesting.
43:12
Others interpret the sequence differently.
43:16
I absolutely love when I can ask different denominations of
43:23
Christians some of these same questions and their answers are
43:27
completely opposite of the other Christians.
43:32
Interesting, Interesting. So hold on folks.
43:39
What is this? So I can't.
43:44
I don't know how to do that on TikTok Myra, if you're
43:47
listening, I don't know how to do that.
43:49
I'm so young. I'm such a naive tik toker
43:51
folks, bear with me, people who are trying to join and I don't
43:56
know I don't know how to do it. I just know how to do the live.
43:59
I don't know all these other gadgets.
44:01
OK, back to this one. So that is just a particular
44:06
others. Some Christians that particular
44:08
judgment after death in that final judgment at the end of
44:11
time and others interpret the sequence differently.
44:14
So these differences matter when we begin comparing religious
44:19
beliefs with near death experiences in those accounts.
44:23
Like This is why we're doing this because someone may report
44:28
traveling toward light, meeting beings, or experiencing a life
44:34
review, yet those experiences do not automatically establish that
44:41
the person passed through the pearly gates or appeared before
44:46
the last judgement. So now what other religions
44:54
teach? Let's let's break this down.
44:56
Now let's invite a few more perspectives to our table.
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First of all, Judaism Judaism contains extensive teachings
45:05
about angels, including seraphin and cherubim.
45:11
I am going to mispronounce this maimonides described MAIMONIDES
45:19
maimonides described 10 Archangel ranks.
45:24
Islam recognizes angels, including Gibral and Mikael, and
45:31
and teaches their responsibilities with divine
45:34
creation. Now let's go to Zoroastrianism
45:37
includes spiritual beings and divine attributes within its
45:42
ancient religious worldview. Hinduism and Buddhism describe
45:48
various celestial beings including Divas, although these
45:55
belong to different spiritual cosmologies, right?
46:01
They they believe in a different realm of those.
46:04
So the specific 9 choirs arrangement is truly Christian.
46:10
The broader except our concept of heavenly beings is not
46:15
exclusively to Christianity. So that's kind of what I want to
46:19
say though the nine choirs is truly more of a Christian based
46:23
foundation than other denominations and truly belongs
46:29
into that area. But remember, Zoroastrianism in
46:33
itself was a form of a lot of these other organic boxed
46:37
religions. That's where it came from.
46:39
Taoism, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, those do not.
46:47
Those were originally formatted way before Christianity.
46:52
And that is what makes comparative religion so
46:56
interesting for me, because you can see so many similarities and
47:00
the religions, we can also see so many differences, but they're
47:05
all to the highest degree of vibration to consciousness.
47:10
That's the thing. Isn't that amazing?
47:12
They all revolve down to Christ consciousness anyway.
47:15
Because if you learned anything in my series, the light is
47:19
within that light. That light consciousness is
47:22
resides within the darkest part of our body and caged, right?
47:27
It's also very caged. And that is what makes
47:30
comparative religion so interesting.
47:32
We can recognize similarities while respecting those
47:36
differences. We can investigate whether
47:39
different traditions describe comparable experiences without
47:43
declaring that every single condition is describing exactly
47:48
the same thing. Now let's bring in near death
47:51
experiences. I know it's a little scary, but
47:53
we're still going to do it. Because to me, before I was
47:57
aware, I just told of an event that had happened and several
48:03
people go MJ, that's an NDE. And I was like, is that like a
48:08
virus? Is that like a disease?
48:09
What is that? What is that?
48:13
Right? So then I was described as I
48:17
described my event. This is what they called a near
48:20
death experience. Have been reported by people
48:23
from different religions and cultural backgrounds.
48:26
This gets interesting. Some describe overwhelming
48:29
peace, some describe a brilliant light that comes through, and
48:34
some report leaving their physical bodies.
48:38
Other report encounters with beings, deceased relatives, or
48:43
environments. Unlike ordinary physical
48:46
surroundings, not everyone reports the same features.
48:50
Let me be very clear and not all Ndes are peaceful.
48:56
IN2024A review of research involving cardiac arrest
49:02
survivors examined reoccurring experiences such as peace, light
49:09
and out of body perceptions and the largest study reporting
49:16
individual features within the review. 85% of NDE experiencers
49:25
reported an absolute peace, 70% reported lights, and 70%
49:34
reported a sensation of being outside of their physical body.
49:42
Starting to sound like my series I went through when I was
49:45
talking to you, doesn't it? That's why we had to do this.
49:48
What is going on? Those numbers describe that
49:53
studies participants rather than every person who has ever
49:57
experienced an NDE. So these were only cardiac
50:02
arrest cases that this study took.
50:06
What I find interesting is that these experiences raise
50:09
questions about perception. What does one person experience
50:16
when ordinary awareness of the physical body changes?
50:23
Why do some people describe profound peace and why do others
50:31
describe spiritual beings? HA, interesting, right?
50:38
And how do we distinguish the experience itself from the
50:42
interpretation that comes afterward?
50:47
Because a Christian may identify a luminous figure as an Angel,
50:54
someone from another tradition may use a different spiritual
50:57
name, and someone without a religious belief may describe
51:02
the same kind of figure without assigning a religious identity
51:06
to it to begin with. So that brings me to my own
51:11
experience. And then I got to wait.
51:14
If you didn't hear through my consciousness, then I'm going to
51:16
have to wait because now I got to take my second break here.
51:19
And when we come back, I'll get into my experiences of 2009,
51:25
2015, and 2025. So I have the second song that
51:31
Amber gave me, and we're going to try this little method again.
51:35
So let me get that up. Let me come off.
51:42
I'm off the studio there. The station
55:28
Okie, dokie, Bokie, we're back. We're back, we're back.
55:32
OK, so they were the 2 songs. I know sooner or later we're
55:35
going to get them into. I hope you enjoyed them.
55:37
We're going to get those into some type of, I don't know,
55:41
video if we can, who knows, but I've been enjoying the time with
55:46
the fix Fock with the with the people and I've been on there.
55:49
So it ends up where TikTok is going to end here on us in 4
55:55
minutes and 99 seconds. So we are going to just if
55:58
you're on TikTok, stay tuned because we are going to reset it
56:01
and we're going to go again and that's where we're going to be.
56:04
So anyway, as it works, as it plays out, we are going to
56:11
finish. And that's a lot for me today.
56:13
I mean that if nobody's ever done a single podcast and doing
56:16
a lot of things by yourself, and I know Joel in the background is
56:18
doing some other things for me at this thing, but trying to
56:21
connect all these things, it's a mess.
56:25
I don't have another word. It's a mess.
56:27
OK, so here we go. My experiences in 2009 during a
56:34
very lengthy, I don't know, 8 to 10 hours, I think it was 8 hours
56:39
in the surgery, an hour before, an hour after, but it was long.
56:42
I experienced what I described as a near death experience.
56:45
I was undergoing bilateral mastectomies and because of my
56:52
disability of my central nervous system and it's a touch and go
56:56
situation, they had to really do a lot at once while I was under
57:01
instead of keep putting me back under anesthesias.
57:03
So the bilateral mastectomy, the expanders went in, they did my
57:09
ovary stuff the on my left side and they took out some lymph
57:14
nodes out of my underneath my arms.
57:16
So during that surgery, I experienced what I what people
57:19
call a near death experience. I remember traveling with a soul
57:24
by the name of Esmeralda. Then suddenly I was whisked out
57:29
of that whole experience. And what was happening is I got
57:35
like this, like it went dark and then the next thing I know, I
57:41
saw as Morel she goes, come on. And as I came up to like get up
57:46
off the table, I realized the physical body was still on the
57:50
table. Huh, Isn't that interesting?
57:55
Crazy dream right under anesthesia.
57:58
And then suddenly I got whisked up.
58:02
Everything went black. And then it came to my awareness
58:05
to return that there was a miss. So if you didn't hear, let me
58:10
explain. During this near death, I
58:13
actually was brought by Esmeralda out and I got to visit
58:17
like people who were praying for me during the surgery.
58:20
I saw them. They validated what I saw.
58:23
I must have seen four or five. There was tons of different
58:26
energy components coming that I would just pick one and go.
58:30
And the ones that I picked and go.
58:32
And then all of a sudden it was like I was, I was taken out of
58:36
those little features. Everything went black.
58:39
And then when my awareness returned out of the black, there
58:43
was this white with this coboled hue mist.
58:46
And the mist was moving, circulating almost like smoke
58:51
being pushed by a fan. And then I noticed the cobalt
58:55
blue creeping into the white more and more.
58:59
And then I became aware of a tone.
59:03
I cannot replace that tone. I have tried and I'm a frequency
59:07
person. I have tried every frequency
59:09
tone known that I could possibly play, and I cannot mimic that
59:14
tone. It it was almost like putting
59:19
the whole body in immediately a peaceful state.
59:24
So a lot of people's 01111. No.
59:26
Oh, well, you would have done 999.
59:27
No, you must have done, you know, 639.
59:30
No, I have tried every frequency that I could all the way up to
59:37
like a 15555. Like I, I've tried them all, all
59:41
these tones, they there's nothing that correlates that
59:44
tone. It's, it's the most uniquely
59:50
beautiful thing. Sometimes I want to say
59:53
frustrated, but it's not, it's not a frustration.
59:55
It is just a, a unique thing. And at that, it's kind of like,
1:00:00
now what do I do right? Do I continue trying or do I
1:00:08
just let it go and know that that was a remarkable thing.
1:00:13
I went with just let it go because it's taking over a lot
1:00:16
and that was a remarkable thing. So now.
1:00:19
Let me explain this tone. It wasn't music.
1:00:22
It wasn't melody and no changing a pitch, no organized Symphony.
1:00:29
It was just one continuous vibrational note surrounding me
1:00:33
completely. Imagine being immersed inside of
1:00:37
a sound machine with the sound coming from everywhere.
1:00:40
There wasn't a direction. It was everywhere.
1:00:44
There wasn't one necessarily that, oh, it's coming.
1:00:48
I, I think it's coming from there.
1:00:50
There was no direction, nothing. There was no compass point,
1:00:54
nothing. It was just a remarkable tone
1:00:58
within this peaceful state of mist.
1:01:01
So that's the closest description that I can give you.
1:01:05
That moment in time. I cannot say exactly when that
1:01:08
tone began because everything happened within that moment in
1:01:13
my thoughts. So quickly, very quickly, the
1:01:17
mist caught my attention 1st, and then it was the cobalt.
1:01:22
And then I recognized the tone. And the tone that I recognized.
1:01:25
It wasn't scary, it was familiar.
1:01:29
And then there was an epitome of just peace.
1:01:35
There was no other words to describe it besides the word,
1:01:38
well, I guess you could say utter love because in ultimate
1:01:41
love it is the example of a high and fartic peace.
1:01:46
It was blissful, favorable, encompassing that peace and that
1:01:50
moment of love. I remember standing there and
1:01:53
seeing layered figures that I perceived of images of people.
1:01:59
I did not see their faces. I did not see their wings.
1:02:03
I did not identify them as ancestors, angels, or people I
1:02:08
knew. In fact, as I watched as they
1:02:11
seemed to come closer, then everything went black.
1:02:15
The minute they started piercing from the the mist, I heard
1:02:21
another tone and then all of a sudden I heard my heartbeat.
1:02:26
Everything went black and the next thing I remember was being
1:02:30
above my physical body, looking down at it, and they emerged in
1:02:33
the ORI knew it was me. I remember the sound of that
1:02:38
beating heart and people watching the monitors and
1:02:43
throughout the portions. I remembered I knew who I was.
1:02:48
I wasn't escaping a life journey.
1:02:51
I wasn't. I knew who I was at all times.
1:02:54
Time had no ordinary meaning during that experience.
1:02:57
I couldn't tell you the time on a clock.
1:02:59
I couldn't tell you anything. I can't tell you how long it
1:03:03
lasted. So in my aspect time during
1:03:07
Ndes, they really don't mean too much to the person.
1:03:12
In 2015, during another serious medical crisis, I experienced a
1:03:19
similar quality of the same thing.
1:03:22
How that story, I set my alarm for 8:00 in the morning.
1:03:28
It was in 2015 and I had already gone through a tremendous amount
1:03:34
of surgeries and problems, and I knew that the first tour was
1:03:40
going to be going. I knew my daughter and my
1:03:43
husband were already out there for the tours.
1:03:46
And I remember like sitting up and cascading.
1:03:53
It's the only word I have. I didn't walk because it felt
1:03:56
floaty. And I remember floating out of
1:04:00
my bed like just kind of like, oh, you ever see the, the girl,
1:04:05
the, the, the memes with the girls who you can't even see
1:04:08
anything part of their move and they're just floating with those
1:04:10
big long black dresses and their feet are exactly what it felt
1:04:13
like. Exactly.
1:04:16
And it goes into this hallway, this long l-shaped hallway,
1:04:19
through a kitchen, into my dining room.
1:04:21
So I experienced that mist again.
1:04:27
I experienced the cobalt coloring again, what I felt the
1:04:31
floating towards that dining room.
1:04:34
There were no figures in 2000. It was like the weirdest thing
1:04:38
because what I remember is that experience of going out.
1:04:46
What I remember seeing that time was just this mist in this
1:04:50
cobalt and this tone. When I woke up, I had my face
1:04:58
planted on my dining room table. It was 1144.
1:05:03
I heard my alarm in my bedroom just going off and as I slowly
1:05:09
came around, yeah, it would be like one of those drunk moments.
1:05:13
So however alcohol or any kind of drug was there, it was like
1:05:17
what the hell just happened? Where am I?
1:05:21
As I looked at my dining room table, there were my my lancets
1:05:27
to poke my finger for blood. It was 510 my blood sugar and
1:05:33
then I I saw my blood pressure cuffs and then I saw everything
1:05:38
there. And if you know that all of
1:05:40
these little blood pressure cuffs, these O2 monitors, all
1:05:44
these vital things that I had because of my health, they're
1:05:48
all on the table. They're all sitting there with
1:05:50
the time stamps. Again, during this, I saw that
1:05:56
white mist, that cobalt blue who, and that same tone, the
1:05:59
exact same pitch in the exact same volume, the exact same
1:06:01
intent, the intensity of it and the same profound peacefulness.
1:06:08
The tone has remained impossible for me to to reproduce while I'm
1:06:16
awake. I've tried, I've tried numerous
1:06:19
things to try to get it to that same, to try to go back.
1:06:24
I can't get it. I, I don't understand it.
1:06:27
And maybe it's time after I get done with the books and all
1:06:31
these things to maybe go into those NDE.
1:06:36
The people experience these things and they do the studies
1:06:38
and maybe I'll find more information out.
1:06:41
But however, most of these things that happened in my life,
1:06:44
I didn't pay second. I didn't give it a second
1:06:47
thought. It was a dream.
1:06:49
It was, I don't know, it's one of those things going, well,
1:06:53
that was weird and you move on. So it is why I brought these
1:06:58
experiences into today's discussion because a lot of
1:07:02
people, like I didn't leave in 2009 experience believing that I
1:07:07
had seen the 9 choirs of angels which were the figures that were
1:07:10
coming through. I don't or did not remember the
1:07:14
hierarchy from the Catholic upbringing.
1:07:17
I was during our later studies and consciousness, like I was
1:07:21
saying that I encountered the 9 choirs again and began wondering
1:07:26
whether there might be a connection to what ND ears are
1:07:29
perceiving into the 9 choirs of those beautiful beings.
1:07:35
The experience always comes first for me and then the
1:07:38
questions always come later. And then that distinction gets
1:07:42
more important because once I experience something, sometimes
1:07:46
I question it, sometimes I don't.
1:07:48
Sometimes I just move through life going, well, that was
1:07:50
weird. Well, I'll figure it out sooner
1:07:52
or later. Or Father, mother God's going to
1:07:54
tell me why I had to experience this.
1:07:56
And I never had a fear. My fear was always about trust.
1:08:01
And that's in the book and you can read about it.
1:08:03
That's not today's show. So it is that point.
1:08:07
It was always that moment of being trusted or that moment of
1:08:12
being, what the hell was that? And then I would shrug my
1:08:18
shoulders and away I would go. Right?
1:08:20
Who needs to have that? I don't know, but not.
1:08:23
But anyway, the question like I said, came years later and that
1:08:28
distinction is very important. So then my next question would
1:08:31
be, could the 9 choirs explain some NDE encounters?
1:08:37
Interesting right? So let's compare the themes.
1:08:41
The Seraphim are associated with Divine love.
1:08:45
Some Ndes experiencers describe an overwhelming sense of love.
1:08:51
I just said I felt like peace. It was loving.
1:08:54
It was. You didn't want to leave it like
1:08:57
you didn't want to come back to the chaos of this world or the
1:09:00
angers and the resentments and the people yelling and always
1:09:03
complaining, right? They can't even get out of their
1:09:06
own way. They're never great or
1:09:08
fantastic. They're always, well, this
1:09:11
happened or whatever. Well, I'm just going to be OK
1:09:14
today. No, you need to be fantastic.
1:09:17
Once you understand that, you living, breathing, waking up
1:09:22
every morning, that's fantastic. Now your choices, how you run
1:09:26
your life, they're on you. That's not God, that's your
1:09:29
choices. Remember that.
1:09:32
So back to the NDE experiencers, that overwhelming sense of
1:09:37
peace, of love, it existed because it was like the weight
1:09:41
of the world and all of our stressors and all of our
1:09:45
responsibilities and liabilities.
1:09:47
Just what's left go. So that's how I perceive it, and
1:09:52
that's why I believe that some of the other Ndeers experience
1:09:55
that overwhelming sense of love. The cherubims are associated
1:09:59
with divine wisdom. Some NDE experiencers believe
1:10:05
report receiving knowledge without ordinary words.
1:10:09
Angels and and archangels are all They're all associated with
1:10:13
divine communication and guidance.
1:10:16
Some NDE experiencers report receiving messages or
1:10:21
encountering these guiding presences.
1:10:24
These are really meaningful similarities to to examine if
1:10:28
anybody has had an NDE study this because it might get you to
1:10:34
connect some of the puzzle pieces back together.
1:10:37
Yet there are similarities that are not proof that a particular
1:10:41
being belongs to a particular choir.
1:10:45
So and the 9 choirs are not described in the original
1:10:49
teachings as the nine separate musical frequencies.
1:10:52
No, I've even looked at that too.
1:10:55
So that's why I put it in here. My experience for a continuous
1:10:59
tone does not establish that I heard an angelic choir, nor does
1:11:05
cobalt blue establish the identity of the figures I saw.
1:11:09
But I can tell you since 2009 I have gone apeshit and finding
1:11:14
that blue, purple, that original 1940 cobalt blue and purple.
1:11:18
It is a distinction in my life at the moment and once I found
1:11:23
out I started collecting. A lot of people start giving me
1:11:25
cobalt. But the cobalt that I saw had
1:11:29
that purple hue. It was this blue to the purple.
1:11:32
It was like the 1940s cobalt blue original bottles.
1:11:36
Those when you hold them up too late, you can see the purple
1:11:38
through them. You know, that's that color,
1:11:41
that's that identifiable color. And it, that's why I said that
1:11:44
does, you know, nor does that cobalt blue establish the
1:11:48
identity of those figures. I saw it.
1:11:50
It was not it, and I want to make that very clear.
1:11:52
It was a hewing within the mist and around them.
1:11:56
What the comparison gives us is a question.
1:12:00
Could ancient spiritual descriptions and modern NDE
1:12:07
accounts sometimes be attempting to express comparable
1:12:13
experiences of light, peace, presence, and awareness?
1:12:19
That's a mouthful, I know. I'll say it again.
1:12:23
Could ancient spiritual descriptions and modern NDE
1:12:27
accounts sometimes be attempting to express comparable
1:12:33
experiences of light, peace, presence, and awareness?
1:12:37
To me it's a perhaps, and that's why I want to continue
1:12:43
investigating it. Because pseudo Dionysus
1:12:46
describes divine illumination flowing through the heavenly
1:12:50
hierarchy. Remember the little dude I put
1:12:52
up there? Pseudo Dionysus, right?
1:12:54
So that divine illumination following through the heavenly
1:12:58
hierarchies, and some of these NDE experiences describe
1:13:05
encounters with light and knowledge that they struggle to
1:13:11
just express through ordinary languages.
1:13:16
We can examine those parallels while recognizing the limits of
1:13:20
what we can conclude. That's the that's like the best
1:13:24
thing. So the next side is the 7 exits
1:13:29
and the journey of the soul. So there's another teaching that
1:13:32
I had gone through that returned my memory while researching
1:13:37
these episodes years ago, I heard in a class that souls may
1:13:43
have 7 possible exit points during physical life.
1:13:48
That is incredible to me because that is where your soul gets to
1:13:53
make the decision. So if you have, let's say, a
1:13:55
heart attack, that is one of your exits.
1:13:58
You want to take this one or not?
1:13:59
It's kind of how it works. It's maybe not so literal,
1:14:03
right? Oh, no, no, I'll deal with this.
1:14:05
OK. Then you have somebody else who
1:14:08
maybe had a huge infection in their brain, right?
1:14:14
Like an encephalitis. That's an exit.
1:14:16
You could die. Yep.
1:14:19
You have a choice. You're going to fight.
1:14:21
You're going to stay. Or is this how you're going to
1:14:24
go out? See, these were the seven exits.
1:14:26
So every supposedly we all have them.
1:14:32
Some modern day spiritual teachings describe exit points
1:14:35
in connection with soul planning, reincarnation, and
1:14:40
possible departures from earthly life.
1:14:44
The number 7 is not a universal religious doctrine and it is not
1:14:50
part of the original 9 choirs teaching either.
1:14:53
I'm bringing it up because I know that in some denominations
1:14:58
and some spiritual teachings they teach this.
1:15:01
Yet the memory returned while I was reflecting on three serious
1:15:05
medical events, three parts of my life, 2019 or 2009.
1:15:13
Under surgery, 2015 high Xtram medical alert with my vital
1:15:20
signs crashing and 2025 with my second round of COVID, I found
1:15:28
myself wondering why. Now I'm not suggesting that I've
1:15:35
used three of these 7 exits. What I am suggesting is that I
1:15:40
don't really have a spiritual checklist.
1:15:41
Who's to say that one of my other ailments in my life,
1:15:45
because I had so many because of my central nervous system
1:15:48
disorder, that wasn't one of them?
1:15:50
Which one of these medical disasters in my whole entire
1:15:54
life of almost 60 years here, that is, was the one of the
1:16:00
seven, right? What interests me is the
1:16:05
relationship that is between experience, memory and the
1:16:10
awareness. Sometimes a teaching remains
1:16:17
somewhere in our memory until another experience then causes
1:16:22
us to revisit that memory, right?
1:16:25
So it's kind of like, oh, somebody did something.
1:16:28
You're like, oh, whatever. And you kind of push it off,
1:16:31
right? There's that drop in that little
1:16:32
bottle and then somebody else and there's that drop in that
1:16:35
little bottle, right? How many drops is it going to
1:16:38
take and are on a wet brick to the head until some till I or
1:16:42
someone goes wait a minute, wait, wait a minute.
1:16:47
What? What is really happening here,
1:16:49
right? That is consciousness, that is a
1:16:53
direct, The more that we climb and the higher vibrations of
1:16:56
consciousness is, the more that those connections don't require
1:17:00
the brick in the head or 10,000 million drops to connect.
1:17:03
That is beautiful because the awareness now is almost
1:17:07
immediate. When you get to that level, you
1:17:11
can spot it. You can even see it walking in.
1:17:13
You can either say hello, I've been expecting you, or I don't
1:17:18
think so today and you could turn the other way, right?
1:17:21
That is pure consciousness. And I love it because sometimes
1:17:25
a teaching remains somewhere in our memory until another
1:17:29
experience. And then when that hits, we keep
1:17:32
seeing it and it stacks and it stacks and it stacks until you
1:17:36
open up that awareness and go, hey, wait a minute.
1:17:39
And then we begin connecting, questioning that previous seemed
1:17:42
unrelated event. I was like, wait a minute, this
1:17:45
happened, this happened, this happened.
1:17:47
Unrelated, but yet it's a circle.
1:17:51
It's that spiral happening in different orders around us until
1:17:55
we clear it. Unity is balanced.
1:17:57
The awareness brings awareness brings the education, the
1:18:03
awareness brings the learning. So what is consciousness?
1:18:07
What happens during the Ndes? Does the soul continue?
1:18:12
What is the relationship between that divine order and then that
1:18:15
human life? These are the questions.
1:18:18
And why do spiritual, different spiritual traditions describe
1:18:22
these journeys, these guides and encounters beyond ordinary
1:18:26
physical awareness? These questions are so worth
1:18:32
exploring and it is just for me, magical.
1:18:41
There is not a right or wrong answer because nobody can
1:18:45
explain it, nobody can adhere to it.
1:18:49
The information that we have, we call it mapping.
1:18:52
As you know, we pull up our table, we put the chairs in the
1:18:54
table. This is our mapping and man,
1:18:56
human, man, right, humanity, This is where man will put their
1:19:02
experiences. This is where man can
1:19:05
collectively go. That happened to me.
1:19:08
That happened. Now wait, when there's too many
1:19:10
that happened to me, something is there.
1:19:14
Hmm. Where's our philosophers, right
1:19:18
where? Where are we?
1:19:19
Where are we with that and that consciousness because it is the
1:19:25
awareness of that conscious, right?
1:19:27
If I could be aware within the state that left my body and I
1:19:31
could zoom to my family and friends during surgeries and I
1:19:36
can have those experiences and they validate those experiences
1:19:41
of how did you know that, right? There's something to it.
1:19:45
There is something magical about every human being that lives and
1:19:50
there's something so beautifully divine about these beautiful
1:19:54
walking angels of life. There really is.
1:19:58
It is, it is a phenomenal experience to be able to talk
1:20:03
about, to be able to research and to be able to be part.
1:20:09
Of a group that has experienced it kind of like the military,
1:20:12
right? You have remember I did that PSA
1:20:16
operation separation about a month or so ago, OK, It's that
1:20:20
same, you know, you, you become this isolation group, right?
1:20:28
Because your thoughts, your etiologies, everything that
1:20:32
you've ever done, it's all part of a unit, right?
1:20:36
And so it's similar and it is coming together in a way where
1:20:43
there's no hiccups. Now imagine an atheist trying to
1:20:47
come into that group, in a spiritual group.
1:20:52
So there's a lot of kickback, there's a lot of pushback.
1:20:57
And let's be honest, especially in consciousness, right?
1:20:59
Because this is where we are. So within consciousness, if
1:21:03
somebody disagrees with you, that's where the disruption of
1:21:07
balance comes from, right? How dare you disagree with me?
1:21:12
What I say is gospel. Isn't that what's happening on
1:21:15
social media and in our world? How dare you say that this isn't
1:21:19
true, right? When you give those pushes, it
1:21:24
is when society is going to push back at you because how dare you
1:21:29
put a spike in our, yeah, a spike in our spoke or of our
1:21:33
wheel. How dare you do that?
1:21:35
How dare you question what I say?
1:21:38
And that is true humanity. Because let's face it, if
1:21:41
everybody believes everything that you say, then you're not
1:21:45
angry, right? You are complacent.
1:21:48
You're like, yeah, look, nobody's disagreeing.
1:21:50
So that makes us very happy. We only become a little bit
1:21:55
irritated or unbalanced when somebody wants to put a hiccup
1:21:58
in our wheel. Not a hiccup then causes that.
1:22:02
So Can you imagine if you're not Christian and somebody talks to
1:22:06
you about these nine choir of angels, you'd be like, OK, dude,
1:22:11
OK. Are you sure we're not just
1:22:13
talking, you know, consciousness, conscious
1:22:15
awareness? Are you sure we're not talking
1:22:17
about the ohm, the presence of the IM?
1:22:20
Are you sure we're not talking about anything else?
1:22:25
It happens because all of us are on a different level, which
1:22:30
makes these beautiful little podcasts and these little
1:22:33
seminars and these little lectures something for people to
1:22:36
go, hmm, interesting. And it either is going to have
1:22:43
an intuitiveness that you want to continue studying it, or it's
1:22:47
going to be like, that's not my thing.
1:22:49
It's not my jam, man. So it's not your jam and it's
1:22:52
not your thing. Then we proceed on.
1:22:55
There is no reason for negative comments and there's no reason
1:22:59
for all these other things. Why?
1:23:02
Just because somebody wants to have a higher awareness of
1:23:05
consciousness, there's no need for the repercussion to show how
1:23:09
unhealed you are by writing negative comments.
1:23:12
There is no reason in the world why you can't just pass it by.
1:23:18
I call it mob MMOB mob, mind my own business, and I refer that
1:23:24
quite a bit to people. Watch, Mind your own business,
1:23:27
keep moving, move along. If it if it doesn't strike you
1:23:31
and it has not an interest, why with your human man, unhealed
1:23:39
nasty words, do you need to write something?
1:23:42
It's not your business. It's not your field.
1:23:45
It's not anything right? I, I relate it to politics.
1:23:50
I, I backed out of it. It was to a point everybody
1:23:53
became a political science major and everybody knows for the fact
1:23:57
that it's right. Yeah, no, that's how come I had
1:24:04
to pull out of some of my other things I was doing.
1:24:06
I don't believe that somebody's voice is authoritative.
1:24:12
I believe there's an experience. I believe that it's something
1:24:16
how we feel on a conscious level, but it does not give man
1:24:22
the right to push their agenda or to push their theories and
1:24:28
demand that somebody else is conducive or coherent with
1:24:33
those. So got a little bit off the
1:24:35
subject, wanted to say it and I had to fill in some time anyway.
1:24:39
And so now let's get back to the awareness that we carry forward.
1:24:45
So today we've travelled through a teaching that has influenced
1:24:51
Christian mysticism for approximately 1500 years.
1:24:56
We met 9 choirs of these angels, we've examined their purpose,
1:25:01
and we've distinguished the heavenly hierarchy from
1:25:07
Ascension and pearly gates. At our Judgement Day, we invited
1:25:13
other religion traditions into our conversations to understand
1:25:18
their connections as well, and we explored the possible
1:25:22
relationships between ancient descriptions of heavenly beings
1:25:27
and modern near death experiences that are happening
1:25:31
today. We even went to the study in
1:25:33
2024 with the people with cardiac arrest.
1:25:37
So what have we learned? Well, I pray that today what we
1:25:43
learned is that the 9 choirs are a theological understanding of
1:25:49
divine order. That the Pearly Gates and
1:25:53
Judgement Day belong to different parts of Christian
1:25:58
teaching. That near death experience or
1:26:01
NDE that people love to call accounts contain reoccurring
1:26:06
themes while their interpretations vary.
1:26:10
And that sometimes an experience remains with us for years before
1:26:18
we can even discover how to ask a question or a new question
1:26:23
about it, a theory, a philosophy or a finding about it.
1:26:29
And it's OK. Like I told you, sometimes it's
1:26:32
that drip, right? We talked about it with
1:26:36
entitlement. We we talked about it with
1:26:40
anxiousness. It's the drip that comes coming.
1:26:43
It's the drip that keeps coming. And then sometimes those drips
1:26:47
through decades last one decade more drips of water where those
1:26:51
bottles explode because it done runneth over, right?
1:26:59
And This is why, this is where This is why we attach things.
1:27:06
And sometimes we have to wait for that explosiveness before we
1:27:09
can even theorize it. Sometimes it's better to have a
1:27:14
consciousness so that we don't have to have that explosion.
1:27:18
And instead of just saying, just let it be right.
1:27:21
My, my own business, Maybe sometimes you might want to look
1:27:25
at it going, I'm not going to give it a I'm not going to give
1:27:29
it a judgement. However, I'm going to figure out
1:27:33
the awareness of it. Two different things, two
1:27:37
different, and each are very plausible.
1:27:40
Each are connected to the highest consciousness of theory.
1:27:45
So when that theory excites us, then we explore it.
1:27:49
Not to label it, not to judge it, not to criticize it.
1:27:53
We get to explore it until another piece of the puzzle
1:27:57
comes in, and then we get to find that piece as well.
1:28:00
So sometimes an experience remains with us for years before
1:28:05
we can even discover that that new question, right?
1:28:08
So I leave you today with this thought.
1:28:16
An experience may remain unchanged even as our awareness
1:28:23
of its possible meaning continues to grow.
1:28:28
The mist was a mist. Cobalt was just cobalt.
1:28:33
The tone was the tone and the figures where what I perceived
1:28:39
at that moment in time. They were figures.
1:28:43
I can't call them the 9 choirs of angels.
1:28:45
I can't call them the Pearly gates.
1:28:47
I can't call them my ancestors. I can't call them my friends and
1:28:51
family of passings. I did I because I couldn't see
1:28:55
in the faces. I couldn't see wings.
1:28:57
I just saw bodies within a mist and there were layers.
1:29:03
Years later, I encountered an ancient teaching and I began my
1:29:08
wander process, right, The ponder and wander of a
1:29:12
philosopher of bridging humanity.
1:29:14
That's what I do. Could there be a connection?
1:29:20
Let me go down that rabbit hole for everybody.
1:29:22
And that's what I did. And that question became today's
1:29:26
journey. So I hope.
1:29:31
Nope. I have faith that somewhere,
1:29:36
somehow, someone listening to this podcast needed to hear
1:29:42
this. Maybe they had an NDE, Maybe
1:29:45
they were questioned about the angels, Right?
1:29:48
Valhalla boys, our army of Heavenly St.
1:29:51
Michael. Well, I gave you some
1:29:55
information about Valhalla and I gave you some information about
1:29:59
our Saint Michael army that we were proudly on our chest.
1:30:05
It has been a joy to be back behind this microphone.
1:30:10
It has been a joy to reconnect. And it has been an awesome month
1:30:16
of reconnecting my family and enjoying them for a week and
1:30:21
diving in to my consciousness of humanity's book.
1:30:26
Yep, if I can't find a pleasant line and I have a hiccup, that
1:30:30
means I get delayed. And it's OK because for me, time
1:30:34
is irrelevant. I just proven time, right?
1:30:39
How long was I there? We don't know.
1:30:41
You didn't even get your alarm. Still going off 1144.
1:30:47
Now there's some Angel numbers I want to look up. 1144 I already
1:30:52
have. That's for you to look up.
1:30:54
Anyway, folks, my name is Mary Jo.
1:30:59
What people know as MJ Gonzalez may divine guide you and the
1:31:05
angels carry you with peace, Lovejoy, happiness, and
1:31:09
abundance of what it is that you desire most.
1:31:12
And you know what folks? I will be back next week right
1:31:16
back here with another version of another conscious awareness
1:31:19
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