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The Death of Elvis Presley Pt. 5: The Incredible Hulk Keeps Investigating (Repost) · Conspiracy! The Show

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: There is a story in a bunch of Elvis biographies.
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: I told people on the last episode to Google it
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: if they don't believe me. Elvis one time stopped a
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: flight on the tarmac in Las Vegas because he thought
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: a guy who stole from him was on that flight.
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: And he stopped that flight with his federal agent badge.
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: And the guy he was chasing is named Hamburger James.
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: It's a very famous Elvis story.
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  Speaker 2: Elvis does it, and it's a fun time.
• 0:27
  Speaker 3: DMX does it, and it's a fucking negative headline.
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  Speaker 4: Did DMX have a badge, though? Oh, no.
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: I think he just pretended he had a badge.
• 0:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. That's a big difference.
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  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: Fair.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay.
• 0:39
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: Never mind. Apologies to Elvis.
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, and you're absolutely right that there's a lot
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: in both of these documentaries that I think was meant
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: to muddle the story. I don't believe any of the
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: Elvis phone calls. I think that's fucking nonsense. There's one
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: that I can't find confirmation of it now, but under
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: the YouTube video where that call is posted. someone says
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: in Elvis impersonator came out shortly thereafter.
• 1:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: There's reference in the second, in the conspiracy Elvis conspiracy
• 1:12
  Speaker 3: that the audio played in Elvis files, uh, was debunked
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  Speaker 3: and they know who did it and.
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  Speaker 5: Yes it was you know elvis impersonator and they paid
• 1:21
  Speaker 5: him 250 dollars to that's it that's all they paid
• 1:25
  Speaker 5: him was 250 bucks to do a phone call which
• 1:28
  Speaker 5: sounds stupid low but at this time you could buy
• 1:32
  Speaker 5: 423 cheeseburgers with 250 oh hey that's true yeah.
• 1:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's another one.
• 1:40
  Speaker 1: I actually have an audio cassette of it because Gail
• 1:44
  Speaker 1: Brewer Giorgio's first book came with an audio cassette of
• 1:47
  Speaker 1: this alleged– Elvis recording. And the thing I read about it,
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: which is from a book called Elvis is Alive, but
• 1:57
  Speaker 1: it's very confusing.
• 1:58
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of Elvis books with the same title.
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: But what the person who wrote that book claims is
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: that that Elvis phone call is actually a mashup of
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: an interview he did in 1962 and a monologue he
• 2:11
  Speaker 1: did during a concert and they're spliced together. And the
• 2:15
  Speaker 1: person names the two albums where you can find them.
• 2:19
  Speaker 1: But the problem is those albums are not on streaming services.
• 2:24
  Speaker 1: One of them's on YouTube, but it's three hours long
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  Speaker 1: and there's no chapters, no indication of what starts where.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm going to try and find.
• 2:33
  Speaker 1: The sources of that first call and see, because sometimes
• 2:37
  Speaker 1: the person debunking stuff is lying too.
• 2:39
  Speaker 4: Like that happens.
• 2:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know, but I absolutely, if Elvis joined
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: witness protection, I don't think he called Gail Brewer, Giorgio.
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think he went to fucking Kalamazoo. If he
• 2:50
  Speaker 1: did go to Kalamazoo, he wasn't living under the name.
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: He signed the fucking Nixon letter. That all feels like
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: distractions and shit.
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  Speaker 5: It also feels like he's the worst asset at that point.
• 3:01
  Speaker 5: Like he don't really want to be hidden.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you're bad at this, Elvis.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Go back to your island and grow your fucking beard
• 3:09
  Speaker 2: out again, man.
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  Speaker 5: I'm the best cop there's ever been. You'll never find me.
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  Speaker 5: All you got to do is look for my handwriting
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  Speaker 5: and any pseudonym I've ever used. And if you see
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  Speaker 5: a guy that looks like me, it's me. Also, just
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  Speaker 5: look up my social security number. I'm still using it.
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  Speaker 3: I will be at the building that is registered in
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  Speaker 3: my name anytime you want to come look for me.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that all feels like red herring stuff.
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  Speaker 1: If Elvis did join Witness Protection, there's no way he
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  Speaker 1: went to fucking Kalamazoo.
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  Speaker 5: No, but if we're going to go Witness Protection... true
• 3:42
  Speaker 5: then these things could also be true and are intentional
• 3:46
  Speaker 5: red herrings done by the cia or the fbi.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah that's what i mean because that would be
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  Speaker 1: pretty easy although that would be risky too because if
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  Speaker 1: he is in witness protection you don't have any assurance
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: that the people who want to kill elvis won't just
• 4:01
  Speaker 1: go kill this fucking john burroughs guy right but At
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  Speaker 1: the same time, it feels like a really convenient thing
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  Speaker 1: where you can put this guy out there who's pretending
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  Speaker 1: to be Elvis in Kalamazoo. And then if the heat
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  Speaker 1: really gets to be too much, you just do whatever
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  Speaker 1: you need to do to prove that that guy's not Elvis.
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: And then that's going to shut everyone up. You thought
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  Speaker 1: this guy was in Kalamazoo.
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  Speaker 4: No, he's not. Next question.
• 4:25
  Speaker 5: Do we know if there was an influx of Elvis
• 4:28
  Speaker 5: impersonator murders during this time?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's the real conspiracy. This backfired and the mob just
• 4:37
  Speaker 1: started offing Elvis impersonators for years and the government doesn't
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  Speaker 1: want us to know.
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  Speaker 5: Eventually, we're going to get one of them. Eventually, it's
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  Speaker 5: going to be the guy we're looking for.
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  Speaker 4: Oh man.
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  Speaker 1: I just, yeah, I don't believe any of the sighting stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I think if he joined witness protection, he fucked off
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  Speaker 1: to Argentina or some shit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. That guy that takes a photo at Graceland.
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  Speaker 4: Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Joseph, Mark Joe, whatever his name is.
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  Speaker 3: He takes that photo at Graceland and I'm sorry, no
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  Speaker 3: fucking way is Elvis just going to sit there with
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  Speaker 3: that door wide open for you to get a photo
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  Speaker 3: of him.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 1: And what's interesting about that photo they interview mike joseph
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  Speaker 1: in this and he's like yeah i took the picture
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  Speaker 1: and darn tootin it looks like elvis meanwhile gail brewer
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: georgio goes on larry king after that at one point
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  Speaker 1: and she's talking about that photo and she's like yeah
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  Speaker 1: mike joseph said he thinks it's elvis and mike joseph
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  Speaker 1: calls in and is like i never said that dude
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  Speaker 1: you are on a television documentary saying that What do
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  Speaker 1: you mean?
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  Speaker 5: You looked Bill Bixby in his fucking non-hulked out eyes
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  Speaker 5: and you said I took a photo of Elvis.
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  Speaker 3: Through his giant glasses. By the way, my next pair
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  Speaker 3: of glasses are going to be Bixby's. I'm going Bixby
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  Speaker 3: with my glasses.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, hell yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you could call those Bixby's, but those look
• 6:00
  Speaker 5: like Dahmer's to me if you want to get real.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, who did it first? I'm not asking who
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  Speaker 1: wore it better. I'm asking who did it first.
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  Speaker 5: I think Dahmer did it first.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: Bixby for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Joe Esposito, he comes up in this and I won.
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  Speaker 1: Don't trust him a bit, but I bring him up
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  Speaker 1: because Mike Joseph, when he called in to Larry King
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  Speaker 1: to say, no, I never said that was Elvis. Joe Esposito,
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  Speaker 1: who comes up in the second documentary as this guy
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  Speaker 1: who's meant to reassure us that everything people are saying
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: about Elvis is false. Meanwhile, I don't trust shit this
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  Speaker 1: guy says. He's on Larry King also and says, no,
• 6:41
  Speaker 1: the guy in the window is this other guy. And
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  Speaker 1: then someone else from Elvis's inner circle calls in and goes, no,
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  Speaker 1: it's actually this guy. So no one knows who the
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  Speaker 1: fuck is in that picture, it seems.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's just some dude. Was it Graceland?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think Elvis would have fucking hung around
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  Speaker 1: Graceland after this.
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  Speaker 5: No, but also, too, men of a certain age made
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  Speaker 5: Elvis their whole personality. So it was very easy to
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  Speaker 5: find people who looked Elvis-like who probably wanted to go
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  Speaker 5: to a place where Elvis lived at one point.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't buy anything about that picture. I think
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  Speaker 4: that picture is bullshit.
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  Speaker 1: The Elvis recording session where he talks about Reagan getting shot.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, how convenient is that?
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  Speaker 5: Hold on, everybody. I'm just breaking news right now.
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  Speaker 3: I just heard the Challenger space shuttle explosion.
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 4: Did he get a text?
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  Speaker 2: Right? Where's this breaking news?
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  Speaker 3: Did somebody, did a PA fly in with a sheet
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  Speaker 3: of paper and tap him on the fucking shoulder?
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  Speaker 4: I just been handed a note.
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  Speaker 2: While he's recording an album, which is a thing you
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  Speaker 2: should not be doing, Elvis.
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  Speaker 5: Hold on just a minute. I'm just being told the
• 7:53
  Speaker 5: price of Bitcoin is plummeting. Everybody just could sell you Bitcoin.
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  Speaker 2: I'm buying stock in GameStop.
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, John Lennon.
• 8:03
  Speaker 3: It's just Elvis doing We Didn't Start the Fire.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, man. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Hold on. I'm being told the price of cheeseburgers is
• 8:12
  Speaker 5: no longer 59 cents. Is that right? Oh, my God. Everybody,
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  Speaker 5: go to Burger King.
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  Speaker 3: A second plane has hit the World Trade Center. I
• 8:20
  Speaker 3: got to go in and warn George W.
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  Speaker 1: Bush.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the commercials in this are interesting. they left a
• 8:26
  Speaker 4: lot of the commercials in these.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah. There's a lot that there's one commercial that
• 8:30
  Speaker 3: keeps coming up where the woman's like, I'll use my mom.
• 8:33
  Speaker 5: So no, no, no, no, no.
• 8:37
  Speaker 2: My mom's tampon.
• 8:39
  Speaker 5: That I had forgotten about that commercial. And that commercial
• 8:44
  Speaker 5: showed up at least four times during the commercial breaks.
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  Speaker 5: And I was like, who allowed this to be a
• 8:49
  Speaker 5: commercial of a lady talking about sharing her mother's tampon? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It, It's the only commercial that comes up multiple times,
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  Speaker 2: I think. And it's a lot.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm starting to think that big tampon, actually big
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  Speaker 3: menstrual products killed Elvis and then created an entire conspiracy
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  Speaker 3: industry so they could sell more tampons.
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't doubt that one bit. What do we think
• 9:15
  Speaker 4: about Kelly Burgess?
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  Speaker 5: Which one was she?
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  Speaker 1: She's the one who says she she met John Burroughs
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  Speaker 1: in Kalamazoo, Michigan.
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  Speaker 5: Like going to.
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  Speaker 3: An office building that she said she found out he
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  Speaker 3: owned and then just going into every room and asking
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  Speaker 3: about Elvis.
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  Speaker 5: And asking over and over until he stopped replying. And
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  Speaker 5: then she left. Right. Wasn't that the story was eventually
• 9:39
  Speaker 5: he was just he kind of entertained her for a bit.
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  Speaker 5: And after a while was just like, yeah, yeah. And
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  Speaker 5: then she's like, and then walked away.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so much about her story just does not make
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: sense from a witness protection standpoint. And again, this is
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: I brought this up on the last episode. This is
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  Speaker 1: what I'm talking about when I say this is not.
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: a nefarious conspiracy, one. And two, if it's a conspiracy,
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: I'm on the conspirator's side here.
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  Speaker 4: What Kelly Burgess.
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: And Gail Brewer-Giorgio are doing in this moment, if they're right,
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: would very easily get Elvis killed because they're saying he's
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: not only alive, he's in Kalamazoo, Michigan. And furthermore, he's
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: at this one specific office building downtown.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I'm here in Kalamazoo, Michigan, making original Gibson guitars
• 10:30
  Speaker 5: where we originally made right here. Now we're called the heritage,
• 10:33
  Speaker 5: but we're making original Gibson guitars. My name's John Burrows.
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: I just I don't think that anything involved with her
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: is conspiracy.
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: I think she's.
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  Speaker 3: Just one of those busybodies that a conspiracy loves because
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: it will create confusion. Yeah, she's got this whole thing.
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: And her son comes in, too, and talks about it
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: and their ideas. Well, we were kicked out for getting
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: too close to the truth. And, you know, you were
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: kicked out for being a fucking weird disturbance at a
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: place of business.
• 11:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 11:04
  Speaker 5: There's this second documentary, whatever you want to call it.
• 11:07
  Speaker 5: They allowed live call-ins, right? And one of the call-in
• 11:11
  Speaker 5: questions was like why are you trying to profit off
• 11:14
  Speaker 5: of this or something like that and bill bixby says
• 11:16
  Speaker 5: the most bullshit answer he was like we're trying to
• 11:20
  Speaker 5: disprove rumors you are putting crazy people on national television
• 11:25
  Speaker 5: that's what you're doing you're not doing some investigatory service
• 11:29
  Speaker 5: to the world and showing how elvis isn't alive you're
• 11:32
  Speaker 5: letting anybody who took a photo of a stranger who
• 11:35
  Speaker 5: looks semi like elvis have a national platform for an
• 11:38
  Speaker 5: evening and Yeah, it's just weird.
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Elvis did join Witness Protection.
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: Let's say that part's true and he moved to Argentina
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: or some shit. I wouldn't be surprised if this is
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: part of it because Bill Bixby is his friend. And
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: Bill Bixby is really, over the course of these two specials,
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: kind of like Travis said, just really throwing everything at
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: the wall to see what sticks. And that's not how
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: you should approach this because it's going to just make
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: it more confusing and convoluted. He asks a good question
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: at one point. They're talking about the Elvis recording where
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: he's alleged to have said Reagan got shot. And they
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: bring on this UCLA professor who's like, nah, that's not
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: fucking Elvis. And Bill Bixby is like, All right, so
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: that's not Elvis. That begs the question, who made that
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: tape and why? And then instead of pulling on that
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: thread a little more, he's like, Anyway, 59 cent cheeseburgers.
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: We'll be right back.
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: And it's like, but yeah, why?
• 12:43
  Speaker 4: Like, why did someone make that recording? To what end?
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: Was it just trolling?
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: And if it was just trolling, was it the government
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: trolling to throw people.
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: Off the track? Why was that video made?
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: There's so much of this that makes no sense because yeah,
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: if that video was made and that's really him, why
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: are you obscuring his face? You're already doing the work clearly.
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: And then all of the, yeah, he Bixby. I think
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: it's important to bring up Bixby using his relationship with
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: Elvis as a thing because he constantly at the end is.
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: Like, well, I'm friends with Elvis.
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: So, you know, or when he's walking around with Larry
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: Geller and they start talking about Elvis's house and he's.
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The house. I know I've
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: been there.
• 13:23
  Speaker 5: The big house. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: If you're friends with this guy, why are you trying
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: to get him fucking killed, bro?
• 13:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: But during the call ins that one woman calls in
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: and is like, do you think Elvis is stupid? And
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: it's so clear that she's setting up, though, because if
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: any of this stuff is true, then you're saying Elvis
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: is stupid because he would have to be stupid to
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: do this, this and this.
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: But he doesn't even let her get a word in.
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: As soon as she says that, he's like, we're killing
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: this call. I'm going to say, well, I don't think
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: he's stupid because I was friends with him and I'm
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: not friends.
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: With stupid people or whatever the fuck he says. Bye bye.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: And then, yeah, it's moving on. It's a lot of
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: moving on.
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: It's a thing that has a lot of questions attached
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: and we're not going to ask any of them.
• 14:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're going to give a microphone. No, we're going
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: to give a microphone to the audience. And here's a
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: guy who looks like he's from King of the Hill
• 14:13
  Speaker 5: asking a question with a British accent. Don't you think
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: it's going on because people don't care enough about American
• 14:20
  Speaker 5: people and their music? What?
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: Well, Boomhauer was actually British. That's a thing people don't
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: know about.
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: Oh, interesting.
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe Esposito, I found, he's kind of the final
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: boss in these.
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: He comes up, he was part of Elvis's inner circle.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: Well, he was there.
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just like, I would know. Yeah, that's why
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: I don't trust you.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: You would know if Elvis joined Witness Protection, and you
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: would not be honest about it.
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: And I don't blame you.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: I understand why you're sitting in front of Bill Bixby
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: being like, Man, fuck you.
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: Of course this didn't happen. Of course you're going to
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: want to protect your friends. So I find it hard.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: To trust people like Joe Esposito in stuff like this.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: And I did find it interesting where in a previous interview,
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: because Bill Bixby does call him on this. He goes, well,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: what about that interview where you mentioned how Elvis feels
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: about the situation? And Joe Esposito's like, oh, well, I
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: just meant because Elvis is always in my heart.
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: Shut up.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up. No, you don't talk that way.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: You're not a guy who says, oh, this is always
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: in my heart. You just fucking slipped up, dude.
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: I think I was not speaking to him earlier. I
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: just meant, yeah, nothing. Next caller.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: That all that stuff and ending with him and Larry
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: Geller is just and also it just seems like a
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: way so that Bill Bixby can end with being like, well,
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: we've looked.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: At all this. And guess what? I think Elvis is dead.
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: Sorry.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know why I wasted my time with this
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: for two episodes.
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: And even Larry Geller.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Gellan, he doesn't pull on the strings he needs to
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: pull on. He lets Larry talk all about how Elvis
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: just had these honorary badges and there was nothing to it.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: Am I crazy? Does he ever mention the black book?
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: I don't think he does.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: No, no.
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: What's the black?
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: In Larry Gellan's book that he wrote about Elvis, he
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: claims that at a 1976 concert in Cincinnati, they were
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: on the road. He was at a hotel in Cincinnati
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: and He claims Elvis showed him this book that was
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: a book that the DEA put out that was just
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: a listing of narcotics agents and that Elvis was.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: In that book. And they don't mention that here, which
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: seems weird.
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: No, the only black book in this is he somehow
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: has the reservation book from the restaurant where John Burroughs
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: ate at. And he holds that up and says, look,
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: he made a reservation under this name.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah. But they never mentioned that claim.
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: No, they never mentioned this DEA book.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: That Elvis was listed in a listing of DEA agents
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: or federal narcotics agents.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: That seems like a terrible idea.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: Sure does.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: To just have that in print. Well, great. Now we
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: know who to kill.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: How's that going to work? You hold up your badge
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: and you say, no, I'm DEA. And the other DEA
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: agents like, all right, let me consult the book.
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: Fucking turn to page 98 look at line seven that's
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: me my.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: Name's listen to john burroughs yeah what i told nixon
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: my name was.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: I do think that elvis and larry geller had sex
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: i do think that they i do.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Larry geller stuff is odd.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: Larry geller was his hairstylist astrology advisor he was talking
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: to me he's like And then Elvis was like, if
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: you really want to know some stuff, I'm going to
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: tell you about this book. Maybe that's where the numerology
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: stuff came from, because he didn't get into the spirituality stuff.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: But it was like, whose hairstylist is also their crystal clutching,
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: number waving shaman? Yeah.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Unless they're fucking, you know what I mean? Right.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: And here's the thing.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Even when he says, oh, Elvis's badges were just honorary.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Motherfucker Elvis wouldn't tell you. In no world is someone
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: who's actually an undercover cop going to be like, no,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: for real. I'm an undercover cop. I know you think
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: this is just fake, but I'm actually here to.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Spy on you for doing drugs. I think here's the thing.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: I think Elvis was a narc at the very least.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's much of a conspiracy.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: Like full time or as a hobby just because he
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: liked law enforcement so much. Or do you think it
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: was like.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: That's a question.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: One of the things about Elvis, did he have hobbies
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: or did he just have fucking passions?
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Karate.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a passion. That was a passion too.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, karate was not a fucking hobby for him. He
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: was like a fifth degree black belt, whatever the highest
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: degree black belt you can be. And that I thought
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: was one of the interesting questions about the body in
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: the casket. Why were there no calluses or anything on
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: his hands if he did?
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: He just took a belt sander and just....
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Morticians get serious with their fixes, you know?
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I think that's where his cousin went wrong when he
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: was talking about Elvis's body in the casket. Because the
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: first thing he says is, Elvis will break bricks with.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: His hands all the time.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: It's like, all right, well, I'm not even listening anymore.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: But that was true, is the problem.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I remember that and being like, wait, what?
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was true.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: I know, but that just seemed to, it was like,
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: Elvis was strong. He would just break bricks with his
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: hands and you're like, wait, what?
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: Just picking them up and smash them.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: I want to say this is somebody who has spent
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: time in martial arts circles. Those guys are all crazy.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: And they're all these weird, delusional nutcases. And they all
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: want to be cops. So Elvis, as a karate guy,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: totally checks out. They're always lying about shit. They're always
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: making stories up. They're all fucking nutcases.
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: I hope Elvis was the karate guy I've always encountered
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: who's like, all right, now come at me real slow.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: I'll show you what I do. And they'll make you
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: come like you're going to punch him in super slow motion,
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: and then they'll throw you on the ground. And you're like, well,
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: I wasn't really trying to punch you, dude. You told
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: me to move at you slowly. Yeah. I mean, what
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: are you going to.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Be, the guy who actually punches Elvis? No.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: If a karate guy asked me that, I would just
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: slowly mimic pulling out a gun.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Like, all right, what are you going to do?
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: And then with your other hand, pull out a real
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: gun and shoot him.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was always, what was the Steven Seagal movie?
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Was it on dangerous ground? What was that movie called?
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: It was on deadly ground with Michael Caine.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I don't remember, but there's a scene where he pulls
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: out a badge in the middle of a bar and
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: is like.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: If anyone can take this from me, $ 500.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Someone would have just shot you from the corner of
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: the fucking bar.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: That sounds like above the law or maybe out for justice.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: It sounds like all of his movies. I think he
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: does that in every one of them. I think he
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: even does that in life. I think he puts down
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: a 59 cent cheeseburger and he goes, but anyone can
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: take this from me.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: And before he's done talking, it's gone.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: Because he ate it.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Someone give me a guitar.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: I've got to sing some songs from the crystal cave.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: My name is Civil Nora, everybody.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Why would you do that?
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Why would you just make your name your backwards name
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: and then start doing music?
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Did either of you know, this is a thing I
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: brought up on the first episode, but this is more
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: related to our music pod than anything. Did you know
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: about a year or so after Elvis died, Sun Records
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: released an album by a sounded like Elvis and wore
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: a mask.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Is that where GBG got the title for her first novel?
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: No.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: What's weird is she wrote that novel. She started shopping
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: it around. And one of the outlets she ended up
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: shopping it around to was the William Morris Agency. which
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: she later found out was very closely related to Elvis
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: and Colonel Tom Parker. Someone during those negotiations took her
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: book and spun it into this Orion character without her permission.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: So the prologue from her Orion book is on the
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: back of that Orion album.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: That's amazing.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: She said when she approached Sun Records about it, they
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: were like, Sue us.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: What are you going to do?
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: So that's probably why her book was disappearing from bookstores
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: then is because Sun Records and William Morris Agency were like, yeah,
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: get this out of here.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: We don't need any.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: No, they were promoting.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: We don't need them having any proof.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: No, they were wanted.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: It's promoting. Value added.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Look.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Her argument, and I don't know, but her whole line
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: of thinking originally was that she wrote this book about
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: a musician faking his death and that the details were
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: so similar to Elvis's. in real life that it spooked people.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: And she does have letters from associates of Elvis who
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: are like, yeah, you really fucking nailed Elvis's life in
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: this book.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: What the fuck, lady?
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: And she says she was just writing it as a
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: work of fiction. And yeah, all of that stuff, I
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: talked about it on the first episode. It's all very strange.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll just have to listen to that episode.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I think this is all way simpler than it's made
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: out to be. I think Elvis, if he joined Witness Protection,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: he just joined Witness Protection. I don't think there was
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: a body. I don't think there was an autopsy. I mean,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: you could make a fucking wax figure and put it
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: in a coffin. That's not impossible. But I didn't put
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: it in the notes for this episode. But I mentioned
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: on the last episode, the reason I think all of
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: the medical examiners report All of that is just people lying.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Because it raises the question, well, then who was in
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: the autopsy room? Who was this autopsy being done on?
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: And one of the popular fan theories is that a
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: man from England who was dying of cancer approached Elvis
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: and offered to help in some way in exchange for
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: being the body that's found when Elvis died. Elvis would
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: financially take care of this guy's family. One, that either
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: means Elvis and his team consensually killed a guy to
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: make this plot work, or two, that guy just died.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Exactly on the day they needed him to. None of
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: that happened.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: It also implies there is a casting call for dead Elvis.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: They knew this was going to happen.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: How did this guy hear about it? If this news
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: is getting across the pond?
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to be faking the old death. I'm dying.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: You can use me.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Oh, so naturally.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: The Biebs said.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: And one of the claims you see about this theory,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: which to me is a little citation needed, is that
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: it would take a thousand people who are all lying
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: to pull this off.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: What?
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: No, it would take 15 or 20.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't need that many people to lie. You would
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: need his closest inner circle. You would need to lie.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Other than that, people could just never know.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it gives credence to the whole didn't just allow
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: all the crazy people to talk because now you have
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: a thousand misdirections just of people doing whatever the fuck
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: they want to say. You just got to have the
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: same little people.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: There were conspiracies about him when he was a fucking
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: when he was alive, you know, like that.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: That Johnny Hera, who they bring in, who was mistaken.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: He was front page news in Denver when they thought
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: he was actually Elvis, when Elvis was still alive.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: I think he is actually Elvis. I think that was
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: the big plot twist of the whole second episode is
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: that they bring out this heavyset guy who looks and
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: sounds just like Elvis. And there's an Elvis impersonator. I'm like,
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: that's just Bill Bixby's buddy right there. Just doing him
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: a solid. Yeah.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: And look, Bill asked him a lot of questions, but
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: one question he never asked was, Hey, Are you really
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Elvis Presley?
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: So Elvis can say he didn't lie, you know?
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I like that they do a poll at the end
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: of this and 70% of Americans are convinced Elvis is
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: still alive.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: Well, my big takeaway from the end of that was
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: Larry Geller is talking and Bill asks him some esoteric
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: question about Elvis living on. And Larry goes crazy. Elvis
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: will live on forever. And he's like, what do you mean?
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: He goes, like me, you, Martin Luther King. And he
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: just starts naming random people. And it was like, why?
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: He goes, we all live forever.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: He brings up somebody else.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: The first name he mentions actually is, oh my God,
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: it's somebody else. It's another celebrity who died.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: And I can't remember. Oh.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: It's not Wayne Newton.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: It's escaping me.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: No, it was somebody else that had recently died. And
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: then he says, Martin Luther King Jr.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: you.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: John Lennon.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: It's like, all right, dude, he does bring up John Lennon.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: But the first one he says is such a weird,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: deep cut one, too.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: And what stood out to me was while the Elvis
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: conspiracy show was filmed in 1992, by 1993, Bill Bixby
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: had passed away. So it seems like Larry Geller was
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: threatening Bill Bixby. It seems like he was like, you're
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: going to die soon.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Bill Bixby died six days or something after filming an
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: episode of Blossom and only a few days after playing
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: golf with James Woods.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: So, OK, all important info.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I feel like James Woods was involved in Bill Bixby's
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: death is what I'm trying to say.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: And maybe Mayim Bialik.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I know public opinion has turned on him, and for
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: good reason. But I walked past James Woods outside Dantana's once.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: Yes, you did.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: And that man smelled remarkable. Oh, he smelled good. It
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: was nuts.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: You smelled him on the way to Steve Earle.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, that's right. It was Steve Earle
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: where I saw him. Hollywood legend James Woods outside.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: That wasn't James Woods. That was just Steve Earle. He
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: smells like that for a six block radius.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: I was I hadn't seen Adam in person because this
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: was during all of the COVID shit. It was the
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: first time we'd meet up in a while and we're
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: meeting up in person. And the first thing he says,
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: he was like, I just saw James Woods.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Interesting fact that gets buried. This was how Bill Bixby
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: spent his birthday in 1991.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: That's right. Somebody asked, somebody says happy birthday to him.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they have to do it on his birthday. Come on.
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: Right, man. BB's a working man. He just wanted to,
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: you know, he was about to work.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: So I think the ultimate question here is, was Bill
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Bixby murdered for his involvement in these documents?
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: A hundred percent. Clearly.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah. He overturned the wrong stone. He asked the wrong questions.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: He put actual Elvis on television because that's who Johnny
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: Harrow was. And so he had to be punished.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Speaking of the wrong questions, I'm not going to ask
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: the wrong question, which is, was Bill Lou Ferrigno involved?
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I'm going to ask the right question, which is why
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: was Lou Ferrigno involved?
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: That's a good question. The answer is not as simple
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: as you think. We have to go back.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: It goes deeper.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I have to go back to the very first
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: bodybuilding contest that Lou Ferrigno was in.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be honest.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: He's not here to talk about it anymore that we
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: know of.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: But who?
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Stan Lee of Marvel Comics. I think he's the linchpin.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: Oh, could be. Could be. If nothing else, he killed
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Bill Bixby.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: Probably. If you look at Lou Ferrigno's career post Bill Bixby. What?
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: He goes on to be, yeah, he goes on to
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: be on King of Queens playing himself. He goes on
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: to be on Celebrity Apprentice. He only ever plays himself.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: That's not true. Okay. He played Hercules.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: There's the movie, I Love You Man, where he, nope, nevermind.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: He plays himself.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: I'm just saying, I think Lou Ferrigno is an asset
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: closely tied to the Trump administration.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if Lou Ferrigno was
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: some kind of, you know.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Look at him.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: You're going to want to use that bod for something.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Why not government shit? So I think we've reached the end.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: I think everyone is fully convinced that Lou Ferrigno is Elvis.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Everything in this documentary is correct.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I don't, again, I think a lot of what's in
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: this is just smoke and mirrors bullshit.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I do think Elvis joined witness protection, but I don't
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: think it's as dramatic as people are making it out
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: to be in this. I think if he did, he
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: just fucking got.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Out of here and went and lived somewhere else.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: And if he did, he's for sure not alive now.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: No, that's this is what throws me. OK, I do.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: It's not difficult for me to stretch my belief to, OK,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: witness protection. Sure.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Makes sense.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: What it is difficult for me to reckon with is
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: that if he, Elvis is dead now, we would have
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: heard about it somewhere, right?
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: It would have, I feel like it would have come
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: out in some way of, well, he wasn't dead then,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: but now he is because he was just too big
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: a star, you know?
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, here's the thing.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: It comes up, I think in this documentary, well, maybe not,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: but it's brought up a lot. I've brought it up
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: a lot on this podcast. There's still a few hundred
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: pages of Elvis's FBI files that are classified on national
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: security grounds.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: What?
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: When is that going to get Freedom of Information Acted?
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: See, that's the thing. His autopsy, I brought up on
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: one of these episodes.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people have it in their
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: mind that they know exactly how Elvis died.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: And no, you don't. No one knows.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: That's not been settled yet. His family had his autopsy
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: sealed for 50 years.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: Oh, he was.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He was killed by a ghoulie while on the toilet.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: That's what I read.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: I think so.
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: And so, yeah, his autopsy will be out in two years.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: And maybe that is, you know, maybe we'll get some
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: answers then. Also, maybe they've just been spending the past
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: 50 years concocting the perfect fake autopsy report.
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: What if Elvis still living Elvis comes out and goes,
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: This whole time, I was fine. I'm 97, 92 years
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: old now, but I'm fine. Everything's great.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: You know who's not alive anymore?
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: Bill Bixby.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: What if the plan was he goes public once the
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: last of the people he set up dies and those
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: people just never died?
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: God damn it, man.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: What if he's out there hunting down all of the
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: members of the fraternity?
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to get a Munich style movie at
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: some point that's just Elvis taking out fucking wire fraudsters.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: If you think about Goodfellas, you know, Henry Hill, by
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: the end of Henry Hill's life, he was very public
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: and selling cookbooks. Everybody he tried to put away had died. Yeah.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: So I feel like movies made about him.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: I feel like we would have gotten a Henry Hill
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: version of Elvis if he were still alive. He'd have
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: been like, you know, here's my fried banana sandwich cookbook.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: Here's how here's how I'm doing. I feel he would
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: have come back.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Maybe, but also I think there's an equally good chance
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: he might have settled into private life for a little
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: bit and been like, oh, wait, I'm still rich.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: This rips. I can just do whatever the fuck I want.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Nobody knows me. I'm never coming back.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: It also could be a situation of, you know, he
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: disappeared literally even from the people who knew where he was.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: He went hiking one day and just fell off a
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: cliff or something. And then, well, fuck, I guess he's
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: really gone now.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Then it becomes a foster system thing where the government
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: has to be like, we lost Elvis.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: I don't know. No idea. He's off the map.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: We don't know.
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: It's like a Jason Bourne situation. He just shows back
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: up one day doing shit. And they're like, he's back
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: on the map. We thought he was done.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Except he's just singing Viva Las Vegas somewhere in Argentina.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: I'll fake my death again from you.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: And I also think it's possible that if Elvis did
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: join Witness Protection, I think it's possible he could have
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: just seen this as a chapter in his life that
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: was done.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: He was 42.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: He wasn't an old man.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: I'm 43 and I'm done.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but Elvis could have been like, yeah, I mean,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: they bring up that he started adding a cover of
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: My Way to his concerts on his final tour, which
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I know seems kind of inconsequential. But also think about
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: the lyrics of that song. That's very much someone being like,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: all right, well, I did that and that's fucking done.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Now I'm going to go do the rest of my
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: fucking life.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: It's also weird.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Sid Vicious also faked his death, you know? I don't
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: think he faked his death, but man, I feel like,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like the cops killed Sid Vicious.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Courtney Love killed Sid Vicious.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: Or do you think Elvis killed Sid Vicious? Because he
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: had a badge. He was like, oh, look.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: What if that's what Elvis did the rest of his days?
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: He just showed up at Kurt Cobain's place and was like, look, man,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: you're so important. You get to know that I'm alive.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Boom.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: He's just killing rock stars that had drug problems.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: Let me tell you what the problem is. Because he
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: hates drugs.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: Hey, guy from Sublime, want to do some cocaine?
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: How about counterculture? How about counterlife? That's what's happening right now.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: I'm giving you an alternative to living. Kaboom.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Eric Clapton, you better stop doing that cocaine. I'm going
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: to push a kid out a window. Oh, man.
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: What did Eric Clapton's kid do?
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: He was just a toddler.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: He was a message.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know why you couldn't just take Clapton out directly.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: You had to send him a message.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Elvis admired Clapton's racism.
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: He's just too big. I can't take Clapton, but I
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: can take his kid. Not a problem.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: I'm too, I like the way Clapton steals the blues
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: from black people too much.
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: Maybe that was Elvis's born, Jason Bourne moment where he
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: pushed Clapton's kid out the window and it made him
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: snap and he went off, he just disappeared and all
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: of his training dissolved. He didn't, he had disassociation, didn't
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: know who he was anymore. I think that's why. Oh yeah, amnesia, amnesia.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: And yeah, Bradley Newell from Sublime triggered him again.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Imagine being Elvis and having amnesia.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: You're just out.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Who am I?
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Why are there people talking like me everywhere?
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: Why am I wearing this very ornate rhinestone suit? I
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: don't understand.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Why do I keep wanting to break bricks? I'm breaking
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: five bricks just sitting here.
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: I don't even know why.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Am I Mario from the Super Mario games?
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: So I think that's our episode. We did it.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: We did not recommend... We didn't even talk.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: About Monty Nicholson at all, really.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: The fucking.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: I don't ever want to talk about cops in this.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: No.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Monty Nicholson, he's another... What a piece of shit.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: He's another guy who wrote a book.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: But yeah, anytime... LAPD shows up in a conspiracy. It's like,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I know what side you're on. Let's fucking move on
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: to the next thing.
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: Wasn't he the LAPD guy that LAPD made fun of
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: because of his.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. He's not LAPD. He's LASD, which is
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: even fucking worse.
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: Oh, he's sheriff. Oh, yeah.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not his jurisdiction. I don't give a fuck
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: what that guy has to say about Elvis. Yeah, there's
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: a lot in this we didn't talk about. And that's
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: the thing. I don't really recommend these documentaries. Listen, not
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: to be that guy, but I feel like you've heard
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: everything you need to hear about.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: The death of Elvis.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: The books, all the books, everything out there is a
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: lot like this, where- There's some kernels of what seems
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: like might be the truth, reference to our corn podcast.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: But then there's also just.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: A lot of bullshit that is clearly fake that is
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: meant to muddy the waters a little bit.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Hey, muddy waters.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I think the most compelling thing is the way the
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Frederick Peter Pro investigation and Elvis's last days as a
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: public figure line up. I think that is the most
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: compelling shit. I think them sending it to a grand
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: jury the day before he disappears, I think is highly
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: fucking compelling. The fact that several people... went to prison
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: over it. Some of them ended up being informants themselves.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: And when all that is announced, then they put out
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: the medical examiner's report. I think it's just simpler than
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: people are making it out to be.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: The Operation Fountain Pen stuff, that's where the meat is.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: And they spend so little time with it.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: And what's frustrating is Gail Brewer-Giorgio in the last Elvis
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: book of hers that I covered said, Talks about her
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: upcoming Operation Fountain Pen book.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: And that never happened. I don't know.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: No, they got her.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: But I think that is really the crux here. And
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: one important thing about Operation Fountain Pen, because you're right,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: they don't bring it up enough. in this documentary is
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: at one point during that while they're investigating frederick peter
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: pro he tried to have someone killed who was going
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: to testify against him so it's very possible that this
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: whole time elvis was like oh This is fun side
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: police work. And then at one point, the FBI was like, actually,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: this guy's going to fucking murder you if this goes awry.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: So we might actually need you to disappear forever.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: It's all because Elvis wanted to sell one of his planes.
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Crazy.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Crazy, man. But yeah, I don't know. We're never going
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: to know.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: We're never going to know.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: Until he shows up as a guest on the podcast.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: That's when we get 92 year old Elvis.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. That'd be a good get. Fuck you guy from
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Eve six. We've got Elvis.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: Jesus.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: So, all right, let's try this again. I think that's
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: our episode. Andy, Travis, thank you so much for joining
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: me on conspiracy. The show, everyone who listens to conspiracy,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: the show should also check out. You don't even like
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: this band. I'm going to put the whole first Fleetwood
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Mac season out publicly soon.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: Nice.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: By the time you hear this, it should be up.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: And then there's a whole second Fleetwood Mac season that
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: is currently for subscribers only that you can subscribe and
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: listen to.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: And then. We're going to be back with another season soon.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: I don't know who we're going to cover, but we'll.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: Figure it out.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: Maybe Elvis.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: In the meantime, what do we have to plug before
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: we get out of here? AdamToddBrown.substack.com.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: That's all I got. Andy, what do you got to plug?
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Live from the Imperial Palace Casino. Look good for the boys.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: New episodes are up. Season seven is going.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: And that's it. That's all I got.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: I got nothing to plug plug, but you can follow
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: me on Instagram at Track Rivals. I'm posting all my
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: hiking shit there, and I am going to be attempting
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: Mount Whitney in two weeks. So you can follow along
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: if you want to see if I live.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: You're going to live. Don't be that way.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Unless.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: The fraternity gets you.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: I'm telling you, three people have died on that mountain
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: this in the past month. So it's a dangerous spot.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Sounds fun. Sounds fun. Well, be safe and let's get
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: the fuck out of here. Andy, say goodbye.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Please don't die, Travis. Goodbye.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Travis, say goodbye, but not forever.
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: Goodbye, but not forever, mama.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: Goodbye, everybody. We love you.
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: People of Earth, your planet is about to be destroyed.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Your planet is about to be destroyed.