Latest / Success Story with Scott Clary / Lessons - Redefining Leadership and Knowing Your Values | Sarah Gibbons - Creator of The Board Leadership Program
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- 0:00In this lessons episode, explore how real leadership starts with self-awareness and alignment,
- 0:04rather than authority. Discover why defining core values builds clarity and confidence.
- 0:09Understand how emotional ownership strengthens relationships and choices,
- 0:12and uncover how effective coaching drives growth through discomfort and transformation.
- 0:23So I want to dig into that point, just as Sean leadership. And obviously,
- 0:27so great points. Leadership is not CXO. Leadership is how you conduct yourself in your life.
- 0:34And I think that mental shift or that lens that you look at leadership through is an important
- 0:38distinction. So what are some practical steps? We can be a lot of people here are obviously
- 0:46executives, but also moms and dads. What would be some overarching step that people should
- 0:53try and take to be better leaders in their life and vision and understand their impact?
- 0:59Yeah, I love that question. So one of the first think about leadership as who you be informs
- 1:06what you do. So if you are disgruntled, overwhelmed, and anxious on the inside, then as you are
- 1:14doing whatever it is you need to do, that's the experience you're going to have. So
- 1:19one of the best ways to get really clear on who you are is to define your values. And it's
- 1:25amazing, Scott. I'll start working with clients. And also, okay, let's talk about your values,
- 1:30do you know your values? And they'll say, yeah, yeah, I know my values. Okay, great. Tell me your
- 1:33values. You scratch the surface a little bit. They don't know their values. So for anybody who's
- 1:40watching, actually, you can go to my website. If you sign up for my email, I have put together a
- 1:45super simple turnkey guide to help you figure out your values. Everyone has around, you know,
- 1:50five to seven values. And once you get clear on your values and you define them on your terms,
- 1:57then you have a very different experience. Because if you think about it, if you start to make
- 2:02decisions from your values, rather than expectations of what you think you should be doing or what
- 2:08you think your family should doing, already you're going to have an experience that is much more
- 2:13in alignment with what matters to you. So for me, one of my top values is connection. So as I'm
- 2:19moving throughout the day, as well as impact, I'm asking myself, what value does this align with?
- 2:24If I need to make a decision, okay, is this an accordance with my values? That's a very different
- 2:29experience than, all right, what does it need to get done today? What should I be doing? And so it
- 2:34allows people to feel so much more empowered. So I would say for anybody who's watching the very
- 2:39first thing you could do if you did nothing else was get clear on your values to find them
- 2:45and to start to play with what does it look like to live from your values? What does it like to make
- 2:49decisions from your values? And you'll be amazed at the different kind of results you get both in
- 2:55the workplace and at home. And I guess my question because everybody, he said things they know their
- 3:02values. And even if they even if they do have an understanding of what their values are, we slip,
- 3:07we slip all the time. I slip probably 200 times a day on I think I'm a good person, I think I
- 3:13have good values, but something you know, rouse me the wrong way. And then I react or the conversation
- 3:18after the thing that rubbed me the wrong way is now, you know, that the emotion that's gone to
- 3:23that conversation is a negative emotion, even though the person had no bearing on what actually
- 3:28triggered me in the first place, these are very common human tendencies. So how do you get rid of?
- 3:35How do you? How do you? What's the answer? So really great point what you said. So one of the
- 3:44biggest principles I got out of my master's program in spiritual psychology is that
- 3:49if we get triggered as human beings, it's an unresolved issue that belongs to us,
- 3:55it's getting triggered. It actually has nothing to do with you. So if you were being disrespectful to
- 4:00me, it doesn't mean that you get a hall pass for being that way, but it's on me to look at, okay,
- 4:04why did that trigger me so much? So as a coach, one of the things that I do is I invest a lot in
- 4:10my own mentorship. So I work with a team of coaches, which by the way, for anybody who's looking at
- 4:15a coach, you want to make sure you're the coach that you're working with is actually investing
- 4:20themselves. One of the best tools is called completion. And it's a process where you are getting
- 4:30complete on your side of the fence of what you're bringing to the table. So the ultimate goal is if
- 4:36you've got energy on you, Scott, about something, that is going to carry over into how you show up
- 4:41and relate to someone. So you want to take on a very practical exercise, which is called completion.
- 4:47It involves writing three different letters. It takes no more than 20 minutes. But what it does is
- 4:53it helps you first and foremost, express what's there for you, whether you're mad, you're frustrated,
- 5:00you're upset, whatever it is, get it all out. Then it's about taking a look at, okay, what's
- 5:05there for me to own? What can I be responsible for? And then the third piece is around what can I
- 5:11acknowledge both the other person and both for me? And sometimes I have to do completion multiple
- 5:17times around the same situation, the same person. But it is truly the only tool that I have learned
- 5:23that my coaches have taught me if I want to be able to come into a situation and feel neutral
- 5:28so that I can approach it from a very clear leadership, then that's on me to get complete.
- 5:37And it doesn't require anyone to apologize to me. It's really on me. And I think that's
- 5:44if people went around in the world getting complete on their own stuff so they weren't lobbing
- 5:49their own stuff over to other people, we would have very different experiences throughout the day.
- 5:54Because you're right, we're human beings. It's not that we go through the day and it's not that
- 5:58we're in leadership 24-7. It's that we fall out of leadership and we're not always saying to
- 6:02my clients, it's like, how quickly can you get back into leadership rather than withdrawing for a
- 6:10day or getting into it with a colleague and going down that rabbit hole? Great question.
- 6:16I love that. And I keep wanting to just double down on the fact that this definition of leadership
- 6:23is truly changing who you are to be a better person. That's really the end goal.
- 6:29And that actually, when we first connected, one of the things I wanted to speak to you about was
- 6:35coaching as a concept. Of course, when you look at it through that lens, when you look at
- 6:42the ability to become a better person in everything you do, it's not hard to understand why that
- 6:48could be a good thing to subscribe to. But let's speak about coaching and as opposed to me just
- 6:56going on, it's funny because I don't go on YouTube and I don't investigate this, but say I
- 7:02need to be sold on coaching. Why would I pay somebody to teach me this when I can just go figure
- 7:10it out myself? That's something that I think always comes up with coaches because people
- 7:17need to buy into it. They've either already bought into it or a lot of people will say, I have
- 7:23no need for that. That's not going to positively impact me. And it's funny because people get a
- 7:28personal trainer, but I think it's a physical, like they see the physical result. And how do you
- 7:35measure the ROI on a coach? How do you measure whether or not a coach? I don't think anybody would
- 7:40shirt like a good coach or somebody that can actually help them, but how do you sell somebody,
- 7:46or how do you not sell somebody? How do you prove to somebody that you can actually help them
- 7:51impact their life? Oh gosh, such a great question and so many places that we could go with it.
- 8:02I'm just thinking where I want to start with this.
- 8:04I think you deal with it. You live it every day. Yeah, I do. You know, the coaching industry
- 8:13has become one of the biggest industries where money is spent. And at the same time,
- 8:20the bar is so low that anybody can get into coaching, which is dangerous because it can create
- 8:26integrity issue. And so I can't speak for other coaches. I can only speak for myself and why
- 8:36why I invest in coaching and why my people invest in coaching. And I think at the end of the day,
- 8:44it's because we by nature want to be comfortable. We don't want to feel any sense of discomfort.
- 8:53If you are wanting to deepen your connection with clients and service to
- 9:02doubling your bottom line, if you are wanting to create a bigger impact,
- 9:07whether it's in your personal life or your professional life, any of those goals are going to
- 9:13require you to do something and behave differently than you're currently doing. In order to do that,
- 9:19you're going to have to feel uncomfortable. We don't like to feel uncomfortable.
- 9:23I know for me, and I joke with my clients, but I truly believe at the end of the day,
- 9:28the reason that they pay me isn't necessarily for accountability. It's because I'm willing to
- 9:34say things to them that nobody else would say. So for example, a couple years ago, I was in
- 9:41enrollment conversation with one of the top executive creative directors in the country. He's
- 9:49just an unbelievable human being, but his work is out of this world.
- 9:58And he kept repeating this story. And finally, I just looked at him and I said, can I give you
- 10:04a reflection? And he said, yes. And I said, I am so bored by this story. If I'm bored by it,
- 10:11you must be bored by it. And he laughed and he said, you're the first person
- 10:16that has told me they're bored by. He said, I'm so bored by it, but it was a story in an
- 10:20event that happened in the news that he was a part of a company that had a huge issue with.
- 10:25And he said, he hired me on the spot. I mean, that's only the conversation change. And he
- 10:29started to talk about what it looked like to work together. So I truly believe people who value
- 10:36growth by nature will be interested and will want to consider coaching. But really the role
- 10:46of a good coach is to keep reflecting back to clients what they're seeing in their way of being.
- 10:53And we all know this, but our relationship to feedback, including my own, and I've done a lot
- 10:57of work around feedback, that is not easy to hear or work with. And so it's less about, okay,
- 11:05here's the program we're going to work. And here's what we're going to do every week. It's like,
- 11:08no, let me tell you what I'm noticing right now in your presence. Let me tell you what I'm
- 11:12noticing in your tone. Let me tell you what I'm seeing. And so that kind of level of work requires
- 11:20a whole different type of leadership if you want to have a different experience in the physical
- 11:26world, but also internally. So. Thanks for tuning in. If you found this valuable, don't forget to
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- 11:36this conversation, check out the links in the description to watch the full episode. See you in the
- 11:40next one.