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Healing at the Intersection of Science and Spirit with Dr. Dana Churchill · Ageless and Timeless Podcast®

• 0:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, good morning everyone.
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  Speaker 2: It's Michelle Hughesiican from Agels and Timeless. We had a
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  Speaker 2: little break over the holidays. It was raining like crazy
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  Speaker 2: here in the Bay area, but I hope everybody had
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  Speaker 2: a wonderful Christmas and New Year's and we're.
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  Speaker 1: Ready to go for twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 2: And our guest today is our first guest for the
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  Speaker 2: new yeard, doctor Dana Churchill.
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  Speaker 3: Dana, welcome, Thank you, Michelle. Pleasure to be here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so both of us are California.
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  Speaker 2: Dana's in Orange County area, and I'm of course everybody
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  Speaker 2: knows what I know. I'm in Marine County, which is
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  Speaker 2: the San Francisco Bay area, so but we are both
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  Speaker 2: Pacific time, so to us, today is still morning and
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  Speaker 2: we're ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: So, Dana, I'm reading your bio.
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  Speaker 2: And of course we've known each other for over a
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  Speaker 2: year now and we've kept in somewhat contact, but we
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  Speaker 2: knew that this was going to take a while to do.
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  Speaker 1: The get your scheduled, but we're all in now.
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  Speaker 2: And just to give a little background, we were introduced
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  Speaker 2: by our mutual friend Rob Fletcher, who, as you probably know,
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  Speaker 2: has joined forces with doctor Goldman who he's been working
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  Speaker 2: with for many, many years, doctor Goldman being the founder,
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  Speaker 2: co founder of the American Academy of Anti Aging and
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  Speaker 2: probably one of the most illustrious forces in the longevity movement.
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  Speaker 2: Most recently, and I know this is of interest to you,
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  Speaker 2: they've joined forces with Epoch Health.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I remember that's yeah, those people.
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  Speaker 2: At a four am some of them, and you know
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  Speaker 2: they will be doing with the World Health Net doctor
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  Speaker 2: Goldman's group and Epoch Health and this new venture called
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  Speaker 2: Longevity Masters, which Rob has been very insightful about promoting.
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  Speaker 2: So they are I think it's going to be like
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  Speaker 2: a three legged school and hopefully Rob's going to have
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  Speaker 2: his own show on on Epoch Health Network and so anyway,
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  Speaker 2: so they'll probably be working with you because they have
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  Speaker 2: their other studio, they said, is in La It's the
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  Speaker 2: one that you were going to have me meet you
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  Speaker 2: at originally first got it? Okay, good, all right, So
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  Speaker 2: is there anything you want to say about that venture?
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  Speaker 3: No, I handed it off to Dan, came with me
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  Speaker 3: for two or three years ago to I told Epic
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  Speaker 3: about this, what they've been what a form has been
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  Speaker 3: doing for a long time, and I was so excited
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  Speaker 3: and so I said, you know, why don't we why
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  Speaker 3: don't we try to do a TV show at that time?
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  Speaker 3: And I did a bunch of interviews and we may
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  Speaker 3: they'll do it. So what it all morphed into eventually
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  Speaker 3: was his platform. After I introduced them to a four
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  Speaker 3: M doctor Bob was there and I was doing interviews
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  Speaker 3: with Dan, you know, to the top doctors that day.
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  Speaker 3: I got like everyone. It was amazing, like they're all
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  Speaker 3: just coming in and they're there at the exact perfect time,
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  Speaker 3: as you know, synchronicity is everything, and so it was
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  Speaker 3: really wonderful. And then finally what happened was doctor Bob
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  Speaker 3: came by and he says, I love Epic Times. That's
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  Speaker 3: the best paper. I want to do something with you guys.
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  Speaker 3: So it took a few years and finally from that
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  Speaker 3: relationship where I was introducing them to Epic, then Dan
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  Speaker 3: and I knew I knew a lot of people he
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  Speaker 3: was working with, and they started this platform this year
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  Speaker 3: and I saw they were doing interviews over there this
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  Speaker 3: year for a few times. So I've actually taken a
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  Speaker 3: slightly different path and working with Epic because they have
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  Speaker 3: such a large event center, event and conference room that
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  Speaker 3: they built there and the very huge facility in Irvine,
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  Speaker 3: and you can fit about two hundred, two hundred and
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  Speaker 3: fifty people in their doctors or whoever you want. So,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm sure you're familiar with doctor good
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  Speaker 3: and Now right Dayan good and Now Now is a.
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  Speaker 2: Very close friend of mine, Jana. I think I told
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  Speaker 2: you that he has been on my podcast. I've written
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  Speaker 2: an article about him for Top Doctor magazine because I
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  Speaker 2: write a.
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  Speaker 1: Monthly column for them, and he I am actually one of.
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  Speaker 2: His protegees his protocol for the plas malagins and so
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  Speaker 2: I do. I've done his program now for about two
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  Speaker 2: years since I've met him. So yeah, I'm very close
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  Speaker 2: friends with doctor Goodnow and I totally respect him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we want to set up a conference with him.
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  Speaker 3: He wants to do an all day conference doing the
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  Speaker 3: als Parkinson's Alzheimer's, to go through each one carefully with
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  Speaker 3: this talking about his very amazing MRI he's doing and
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  Speaker 3: all the lab works. So yeah, that to be very interesting.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, we've been doing that over here, slowly but surely. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I did the MRI with him in LA and you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's just really thorough. But he's going to have his
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  Speaker 2: own clinic MRI. So I'll be going to Temecula where
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  Speaker 2: he's located.
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  Speaker 3: Two of them. Now he's got two of the two.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, but it's better to be right there under
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  Speaker 2: his management because the one in La took over a
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  Speaker 2: year and a half for them to just to get
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  Speaker 2: back to us with UH and then and it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: done for diagnostics. It was done for a benchline, a
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  Speaker 2: baseline for the program. But still, you know, very important
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  Speaker 2: to do that. So yeah, so I'll be going to
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  Speaker 2: Temecula one of at one point. But I really believe
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  Speaker 2: in the plus malagins and the glia. I take the
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  Speaker 2: eight of them a day.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, good, Yeah, before you started, why did you start it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, he did the baseline test, the program science test,
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  Speaker 2: and amazing the difference between the first tests and the
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  Speaker 2: second one.
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  Speaker 1: I started on the eighth morning. No, no, no, not that,
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  Speaker 1: thank god.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm very very healthy and everything checked out beautifully
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  Speaker 2: brain wise, but you know, still lower in the plasma
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  Speaker 2: alicans because I.
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  Speaker 1: Never even knew what that was.
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  Speaker 3: And the second time, sorry, not many people.
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  Speaker 2: Do, not many people do, even you know medical doctors
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  Speaker 2: that I talked to.
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  Speaker 3: It's brand new. He's like fifty years before his time.
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  Speaker 3: He's genius. Yeah, we're blessed to have him. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so that's great. I'm glad you're doing his protocol.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I am very active with him and doctor yurt who
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  Speaker 2: and doctor Foray, Suzanne Foray. They've both been on my podcast.
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  Speaker 2: They're both big advocates.
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  Speaker 1: Of his program and use his protocol.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, No, every time we go to a four
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  Speaker 2: M or any of the shows they're they're at, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I make a big point of spending time at their
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  Speaker 2: boot to see what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: He's so busy now that I don't get much of
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  Speaker 1: his time anymore.
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  Speaker 2: But the beginning, you know, he would be the one
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  Speaker 2: getting on the phone and doing the consult so I
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  Speaker 2: got the top guy to.
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  Speaker 1: Give all the guidance.
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  Speaker 3: Good. That's very good.
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  Speaker 2: Now I have you and him, so lucky girl. Right, Well,
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  Speaker 2: so tell us about your journey, Danny. You are a
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  Speaker 2: renaissance man, like so important to get over to people
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  Speaker 2: to understand a bit about who you are and the
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  Speaker 2: people I see, let's see I had written down.
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  Speaker 1: Here Will Taylor, Robert and Morgan Foss.
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  Speaker 2: Morgan so why don't you tell us number one about
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  Speaker 2: your journey in a in a en capitualized way.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's.
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  Speaker 3: Ills and a d D. I can go on for hours,
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  Speaker 3: so you can just drag me back. I mean I was.
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  Speaker 3: I had high blood pressure starting at fifteen years old,
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  Speaker 3: pretty significant. He couldn't touch it. Not many medicines would
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  Speaker 3: knock it down. It was there was a lot. I
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  Speaker 3: was very a topic. I was very allergic to a
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  Speaker 3: lot of things. My mom was hyper allergic. She could dive,
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  Speaker 3: she had peanuts, So you know, there's definitely gonna be
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  Speaker 3: genetics coming through there. And I was not a very
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  Speaker 3: super healthy kid. Anyway. I went around the world. I
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  Speaker 3: mean before I was twenty five. I think I did
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  Speaker 3: more than most people do in their entire lives. It
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  Speaker 3: was like I was shot out of a cannon. Like
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  Speaker 3: I didn't let any of these things stop me. There
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  Speaker 3: was no way anything's going to stop me. I was
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  Speaker 3: very headstrong type a New Yorker, grew up in Princeton,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and pretty much I went to school for
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  Speaker 3: culinary arts because I didn't want to go to a
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  Speaker 3: university after high school. So I was add I was ADHD.
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  Speaker 3: I dyslexia. There's a lot of things that nobody even
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  Speaker 3: knew about those war back then, right, But my parents
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  Speaker 3: sent me to do a special school in Princeton. They
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  Speaker 3: basically twist your brain around with calculus one day, the
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  Speaker 3: next day chaucer, the next day, physics, and they're just
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  Speaker 3: trying to get your brain to be more optimal and
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  Speaker 3: also the cognition and the memory and everything to really
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  Speaker 3: be key. So I did that, and I realized they
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  Speaker 3: gave me a lot of a lot of confidence at
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  Speaker 3: that school. So my IQ was like over one hundred
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  Speaker 3: and twenty, and that was really exciting. I thought that
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  Speaker 3: was cool. I'm smart, I can do this. Because it
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  Speaker 3: was hard to get the information in, it was hard
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  Speaker 3: to get the information out. So basically then I went
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  Speaker 3: to the school in New York City Tech for Culinary Arts.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a French, I'm a French trained chef. Before the
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  Speaker 3: year before they went this is still old cuisine, a
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  Speaker 3: scuffae old cuisine. The year after was Neuvelle cuisine just started.
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  Speaker 3: Whi's the difference between all the heavy butters and all
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  Speaker 3: the cream so much lighter and there was France. The
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  Speaker 3: chefs decided to do this. It was a major change
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  Speaker 3: in cooking. But I did that. I had the best
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  Speaker 3: time in my life. I was going cooking school, I
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  Speaker 3: was harding, crazy person, running to parties in New York City,
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  Speaker 3: going to Princeton, and life was really good. But a
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  Speaker 3: little by little I was burning out slowly but surely,
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  Speaker 3: and I wasn't taking care of myself. I would drink
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  Speaker 3: whenever I wanted to. I'd party. I didn't think anything
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  Speaker 3: about blood pressure or really even die it back then.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I worked out a lot, exercise, I lifted weights,
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  Speaker 3: and it didn't have any effect on me yet. But
• 9:58
  Speaker 3: as the years went by, I sure was getting higher.
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  Speaker 3: I started getting headaches, you know. And little by little
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  Speaker 3: I didn't want to work with the allopaths at all,
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  Speaker 3: even from a young age. And that was more just headstrong,
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  Speaker 3: like I know better than they do. But I didn't
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  Speaker 3: want the drugs. I really didn't want the drugs. And
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  Speaker 3: I went to Atkins when I was like eighteen years old.
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  Speaker 3: My mom took me to Atkins, and he was great
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  Speaker 3: for blood pressure and things like that. He was a genius,
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  Speaker 3: and so they had him on like twenty five different supplements.
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  Speaker 3: Back then, they didn't have any multi formula. So it
• 10:26
  Speaker 3: was everything, you know, it was all the minerals and
• 10:29
  Speaker 3: vitamins and then metabolic cofactors and this is from testing
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  Speaker 3: advanced testing in his lab and was targeting my cardiovascar
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  Speaker 3: system and blood pressure. And I did it and it
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  Speaker 3: did work. But I wasn't willing to I wasn't willing
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  Speaker 3: to stop going to parties, drinking stallish naya and having
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  Speaker 3: fun and doing what I thought what everybody else is
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  Speaker 3: doing because I wasn't really sick yet, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: didn't feel it, And unfortunately for me, it took me
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  Speaker 3: a long time to really start to feel it and
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  Speaker 3: say I can't live this lifestyle anymore. So at thirty
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  Speaker 3: years old, I just this is back when I was twenty.
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  Speaker 3: So about ten years later, like you know what, I'm
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: starting to really burn out because I've been in multiple
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  Speaker 3: dining rooms. I've been in high end. I've been in France,
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  Speaker 3: Switzerland working for two summers. I lived in Helsinki for
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  Speaker 3: a year. I went back to France. There's a lot
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  Speaker 3: I'm just going going going learning about every best wines
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  Speaker 3: and foods and you know, total foodie and all that.
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  Speaker 3: Life almost kind of came to a grinding hall because
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: I couldn't ingest those things anymore, you know, I had
• 11:21
  Speaker 3: my leaky god and allergies and all this stuff. And
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: so I went to back to Rutgers to find out
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  Speaker 3: what's wrong with me, to study nutrition. And that was
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  Speaker 3: a really, really great time in my life. It wasn't easy,
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  Speaker 3: and I realized that if I really focused on my brain,
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  Speaker 3: I could learn everything I need to learn. It's probably
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  Speaker 3: pretty much pre med It was pretty tough in Rutgers,
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  Speaker 3: but I liked I really liked the nutrition department and
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  Speaker 3: everything about nutrition, because that, to me was medicine, the
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  Speaker 3: in depth biochemistry of nutrition, how's that working in your body?
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  Speaker 3: And what you can take to supplement, what you can
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  Speaker 3: take to eat to start to alter that and fix it.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what I was doing, slowly but surely for
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  Speaker 3: the blood pressure, and it was coming down. It still
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  Speaker 3: wasn't great. And then one day, around the time in
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  Speaker 3: my last year at Rookers, I guess I was like
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  Speaker 3: thirty five or maybe a little bit later. It took
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  Speaker 3: me a long time to finish that program. I went
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  Speaker 3: to the church one day, and I've been going for
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  Speaker 3: about ten years, and I said a prayer I said,
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  Speaker 3: I want to be the best person I could possibly be,
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  Speaker 3: and I would just be the greatest person you could
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  Speaker 3: look at. Right, I was like in Adonis, and I
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  Speaker 3: would look really good. I could lift weights. I was
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  Speaker 3: really good. But inside it was very hollow, and I
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  Speaker 3: never really tried to work on myself ever. And this
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  Speaker 3: is where the real where the road meets the rubber.
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  Speaker 3: I guess that's what they say, or the other way,
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  Speaker 3: the rubber meets the right. See, I'm dyslexic. Sod anything.
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  Speaker 3: Turned it around and I went to the and I
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  Speaker 3: said that prayer, and I came back to my house.
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  Speaker 3: I was renting a house on Harrison Street in Princeton
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  Speaker 3: from a Chinese man, and we knew him from the past. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: Jeffrey came to me that day. After he pulled up
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  Speaker 3: his car behind me. I got out of my car.
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  Speaker 3: He greeted me. You know, Chinese are very formal. We
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  Speaker 3: talk about a few things, and then he went back
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  Speaker 3: to his car and went to get a book in
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  Speaker 3: a video and all he said was follong gong, follong gong,
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  Speaker 3: foulong gong, this is for you, and he puts the
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  Speaker 3: book in the video right into my stomach, like when
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  Speaker 3: somebody doesn't let you not take it, you have to
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  Speaker 3: take it. And I was like, I knew by then
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  Speaker 3: that I'm on a spiritual path. Whatever comes, it's probably synchronicity, right,
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  Speaker 3: it's probably perfect for me. I just said the prayer too, right,
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  Speaker 3: And it was weird. That's in a Christian church to
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  Speaker 3: know this is a Chinese guy. So I figured in
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  Speaker 3: my mind, well, there's just one guy who's helping everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever it is, I don't know, but I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: try this. And that was it. That's twenty five years
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  Speaker 3: since I did that practice. And even this morning, I
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: got up at five, went to the park at five thirty.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's nice you're at eighty in the day,
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  Speaker 3: but it's not. It's like forty five fifty at five
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  Speaker 3: thirty am. Exercises. We did the chigong. Every day I
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  Speaker 3: do it, and every day I feel like I'm getting
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  Speaker 3: shot out of a cannon and like a little kid again.
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  Speaker 3: Everything is new and fresh. It's never jaded, no matter
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  Speaker 3: how many times I did it. It just keeps you
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  Speaker 3: in the moment. And so that dropped my pressure down.
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  Speaker 3: It just changed my life. I mean, in so many
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: ways my relation.
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  Speaker 1: Let tell everybody what Salongong is.
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  Speaker 3: Hongong is a Chinese meditation. You could almost call it
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  Speaker 3: like a Chinese And there's a book that we read
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  Speaker 3: and there's exercises are like standing exercises and the sitting
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  Speaker 3: meditation that we do. And you don't have to do
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  Speaker 3: it every day like I do. You can do it
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  Speaker 3: as much as you can, but it really brings you
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  Speaker 3: back to reality. It strips the layers off. It lets
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: you see what what is I don't want to say dysfunctional,
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: but what is not working with your life? And what
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: can what do you need to work on? Because it'll
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: show you every day and it'll give you hints. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you're like on this amazing path call cultivation path, right,
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: and you're and you're seeing these attachments and you're working
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  Speaker 3: on them, you're letting them go. And then it's almost
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  Speaker 3: as soon as you can realize what it is and
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  Speaker 3: how it's affecting your life and you don't want it anymore,
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  Speaker 3: it goes just get taken away.
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  Speaker 1: Why he he.
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  Speaker 2: He came to my home here and chipper On and
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: did a whole analysis of the kind of like pung
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: shuai type thing, but from a chigong standpoint. And he
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: also analyzed all my staff, which was about I guess
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: ten people at a time. So yeah, So I mean
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: I got deep in with him into chigong. I didn't
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: practice it very much, but I you know, understood the
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: philosophy behind it.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's gonna be.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's there's stuff that I'm still working on.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just layers after layers after layers in
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: different ways of understanding it. Like if you don't get
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: it one way, it's like we never see masters. I
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: mean I've met him three times, but he's just around everyone.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: I can see him in my dreams. I can see him.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: I've seen him on the beach, taller than tall skyscraper.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's very powerful and he'll guide you the
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: whole way. So after I started that, my blood pressure
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: went down, my adyd dyslexia started to go away, and
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: everything started to come back normal. So if Rutgers than
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: I've got a degree in nutrition and I went to
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: school in New York, the National College, National University of
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: Natural Medicine, Oregon for four years, and that was a
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: naturopathic school. So I have those three degrees put together,
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: it's pretty amazing for health and wellness vitality.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: So basically it was almost a happy accident that led
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: you and your own personal issues that led you onto
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: the naturopathic.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: And totally yeah, of course, because if I wouldn't have
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: been sick, I would never I would have been in
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: the French Riviera, partying and having fun. Well, I wanted
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: to own a hotel in the French Rivia. By the
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: time I was thirty, that was my goal. And you
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: can see why you burn out without having backers there
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: really any knowledge of how a business or anything. I
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: just thought I was just going to get dropped in
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: my lap. Well, that doesn't necessarily happen, you know. Well, yeah,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: tell us.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: How the nutrition part.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: That's one of the five horsemen, let's say, of good
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: health diet. So why don't you tell us how that
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: has changed your life in terms of what you do
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: on a daily basis and how you've affected and influenced
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: your patients.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, nutrition is probably fifty to seventy five percent
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: of what I do every day. I mean, they'll start
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: with vitals. It'll start with the Tanita scale, looking at
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: nine parameters. What's your basil metabolic rate? Which your five percent?
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: You know, how many calories are you eating? How are
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: you actually digesting? Are you absorbing your nutrients? Is your
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: gut leaky? I mean you can go on and on.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: I mean we're doing allergy panels. We test omex, so
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: we're metabolomics all the time. We're looking at sutrir acid
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: cycle way past. Okay, you auto mitochondria, but you know
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: what's inside the mitochondria, what's it doing? And what are
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: all the men about cofactors and I mean no acids
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: and everything everything it needs to be able to function properly.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: So we're getting we're breaking it down little by little
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: and as the research comes more and more. You know,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: mitochondria is massive now and that's in cells and you
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: know dams and pants and all that. We start breaking
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: it down to more and more of the molecular level
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: and gets harder and harder and harder, but your understanding
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: gets better because you have the past information just this
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: new stuff on. That's what AFOM does for me. Every year.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: I fill in those cracks, those things I didn't know
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: during the year, and we go on to the next year.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: But I can't say enough for nutrition and helping people
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: with no everything. All pathology to me is biochemical. Good
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Enough says the same thing. If I say something to
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: doctor Goodenow does just correct me. Go, No, it's just
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: about chemistry. This is what it is. Blah blah blah
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: blah blah. I mean he just knows it so well.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: So what is what's your daily guy?
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: It looked like, well, I make sure that I always
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: go to the park in the morning. I mean, that's
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: I think, way more powerful than any diet because you're
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: opening up every meridian every day and your energy. If
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: you don't have energy flowing through your system from whatever
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: you want to do, there's a million different ways to
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: get energy going. I find that following Gong is so
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: comprehensive that it's like every cell, every organ the energy's
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: flown through and I feel like a new person. So diet,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: to me, I have to say, for myself, it's not
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: the most important thing in my life anymore. It's keeping
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: on my attachment to things like not not any of
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: those old addictions, just never doing them, just completely breaking
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: those cycles. Because it seems like I get more and
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: more energy and more and more younger, and I even
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: look better when I when I defer or I don't
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: know what the word is, just not attached to those things.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: But I like to eat healthy, obviously, so I'll usually
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: do a smoothie in the morning. It's not I don't
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: blend it. I just threw it in a in a
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: container you can shake up, so it has heavy cream,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: has from the unpasteurized or it's close to unpasteurized milk
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: and heavy cream. I can digest dairy, and my family
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: half of it's from Finland, so I don't have any
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: problem with that. I got walnuts or any kind of
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: nuts in there. I put raisins in there. I put
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: berries every day, organic blueberries, raspberries, and strawberries. Sometimes you
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: gotta have organic because those berries are the master any
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: oxidants and anything else in their pumpkin seeds for prostate.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: And then I just eat that yogurt, but only the
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: fat yogurt. The fat yogurt. Never eat anything light or
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: light or low ever a crap. It's all chemicals. That's
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: our problem. It's not the foods, it's they have been
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: adulterate chemicals and and.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Drug and the gamos would and then and then the.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you can go to Italy all the time.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Once they go to Italy and they started eating the
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: pasta and the bread and they don't gain any weight
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: and they feel great. I mean, what's the difference between
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: their pasta and ours? A big difference.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: So because that's breakfast, what about the rest of the day.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, I usually two meals a day, that's sit six
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: hour window, and I fast the rest of the day.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I feel amazing when I do that. I just feel relaxed, peaceful,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: because remember, I have to admit when I foods would
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: trigger everything in my life. Remember, I'm a topic. I'm
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: super allergic. My mam almost died of peanut alleries allergies,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: so imagine what it was like before I did any
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: cheek or anything like that. I just ate the one
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: wrong thing. Oh my goodness, I was off to the races.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: I'd be so anxiety ridden I couldn't even drive my
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: car sometimes. I was so incredibly sensitive. So I was
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: blessed to do the following on that. That's what I
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: love is that camp down, all that down. But I
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: can still have that if I'm not careful. So you know,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I don't drink caffeine anymore. I tried, it just got
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: to the point where it was not working for me.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: I completely put caffeine. I usually eat lunch. It can
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: be anything from sprouted salads to sandwich. Well, sandwiches are
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: tough because I don't usually try to eat too much
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: bread or too many carbs a lot of it. I mean,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: I go to there, I'm right in the best Chinese
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: food in the world so pretty much, or at least
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: in the US. So I go. My wife makes dumplings
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: for me, So there's this really wholesome, happy, good food.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I can't say it's super super nutrition oriented all the time,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: but for me that's okay, and some of my patients
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: it's not.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: It depends who you are, right, and yeah, your allergic
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: level and your sensitivity level, Like I just do you
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: know the KPMO test? Yeah, so they do that at
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: a for him. I've done it for three years and
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Well, do you like it?
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Or I've done it? I thought it. I've been with
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: with Meridian Valley for like twenty five years, you know,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: And that to me is like who's at Jonathan Wright's company?
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: And I love what they do and I never it's
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: so easy to work with them, and I'm doing so
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: many more things that I don't think I really need
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: because we're doing the gut. Vibrant Labs is the number one,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: So I'm doing the gut zoomer with them, and we're
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: getting like one hundred and fifty markers on the gut.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: We're getting eighty four markers on a cardiac plan. So
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: if you something just overkill, you just gotta We're the
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: company you feel comfortable as long as you're getting a
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: good data. So I tried the KBO a few times.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: It kind of told me some extra information, but I'm
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: getting that from other companies or I'm just assessing that
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: like knowing the patient already and knowing what that's about.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: I don't always use that one anyway.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: So well, the reason I like the kpmos because it
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: is so simple and you know, just a prick of
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: your finger. You don't have to do a stool test
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: or other more complicated I realized it's it's like the
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: tip of the iceberg, you know.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: And sensitivities. Yeah, if we're coming from leaky gut, of
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: course that's good. If I just do the Murney Valley
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: ninety five foods the main panel not there's lots of
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: other ones. There's Asian, there's all these different ones. And
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: then I would run my panel with vibrant labs. I
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: have my own blood panel which has one hundred markers.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: So that's your blood. Most people, that's going to be
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: sufficient unless they're really sick. And if they are, then
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: we're going to get into a stool test, which is
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: really different than the allergy test. Right, So, and also
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: I need to know what kind of bugs are in
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: your gut. Well, recently I've seen his mold, really really
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: bad mold, and half the people don't know they have it.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: They have it, they're not going to heal because it
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: gets into the immune system and it completely breaks it
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: down step by step by step. I mean hold Tworf,
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: ken Holdworf, he did an interview with me, gave me
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: this book, which is the most amazing book called Mold.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: That's kind of blurried by the said mold illness.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Is that? What? Oh?
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: There it is mold illness.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Okay, doctor Holdtorf, oh, kenn Holdtorf. He's the guru on
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: functional meta and one of the one of my mentors.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: And so that once I got that and It was
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: funny because right about that time, I was starting to
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: test for mold more than I ever had in my practice.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: I'm seeing and like you know, seventy five percent of
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: the patients had two or three different microtoxins, and whether
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: that was affecting her or not, that all depends on
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: the patient. And you can then test blood to see
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: if your antibodies are reacting anyway. But most of these
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: patients have HLA dre I, at least the ones that
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: are really sick, because that means they're genetics they're predisposed
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: to mold. So even if you get it out, if
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: they don't fix their house, they're gonna get reaculated right back,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: and they're gonna come back. And I saw this so
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: many times. So one of the major things you talk
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: about is to get your house cleaned for mold, and
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: they get a special mold you know, a person that
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: knows where the company go in there and clean the
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: whole thing. Is like the Geiger counter in the air,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: literally to see if there's mold spores or how many
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: per million. If you don't, it's gonna just come right back.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: If you don't have hladre, like a lot of the
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: spouses will and they don't. It's like, what are you
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: talking about? I feel fine, I have I don't have
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: a single thing wrong with me. And the wife's literally
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: like falling down on the ground and she can barely breathe,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: and she does. So we have to always remember that
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: and be compassionate to people.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because the people are at different stages of different influences.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: And what about an air purifyers. It's interesting that you're.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Talking about mold because that was one of my questions
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: on my list of questions for you, is you know,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: how are you treating mold and heavy metals and lime disease,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: because that seems to.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Be heavy metals are pretty distinct from mold and lime.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: I mean they're's there's a big difference. You can usually
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: tough on the patient, but we usually test for heavy metals.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: We'll do you know, we'll do a heavy metal panel
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: with a with a we'll challenge the body with ms
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: D M S A, which a key lad. If you
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: don't push it out with that, you're not going to
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: find anything. And then the mold I do the microtoxin
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: panel and the environmental talks and from vibrant I usually
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: a lot of times, I don't do the blood metals
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: unless I think you're really sick. But because the metals
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: are only going to stay in the blood for about
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: two weeks, they're not going to stay in there very long.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: They're going to be sequestered into the thing at tissue
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: in the bone wherever the body can store it for
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: a rainy day. Because the body has no idea what
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: they are. They've never seen them before, and so the
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: thing is we need to push them out onto the
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: labs to see and after that we start doing culation.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: The mold i'm treating with still was Cooley styamine, and
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: I mean it's a pretty pretty tried and true treatment
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: from the from the old, the old Shoemaker protocols. But
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: when you read Kent Holdtorf's book, he talks about the
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Shoemaker protocols versus his protocols adding in four to five
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: to six different peptides, and it's like twice as fast
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: to get to baseline to get the person feeling better.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Sometimes it's hard to keep them feeling better, but to
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: get to sequester enough mold, you get the immune system
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: back on track just enough. They see some hope and
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: they're willing to start working with you then, because from then,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: from that point on, nobody even addressed them mold. Nobody
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: even knows it even exists in their body, and they're
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: just getting destroyed by it. I mean, it's some nasty stuff.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I know we can So what air purifier?
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Would you tell people to get munch to get the
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: mold out of their house?
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: And they want to keep it that way?
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: There's so many I haven't tell you the truth. I
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: haven't kept up on the really the ones that are
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: coming out nowadays, they're more and more advanced.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I have the Austin Health Maid, but
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: they're big, and I don't know if you ever.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I think they're kind of the granddaddy of.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: What the name of the ones? What are the ones
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: you use?
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Called Austin Health Maid.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Austin. That's been even from my school when I
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: graduated in two thousand, everybody said Austin was the best
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: company yet.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one I invested in and I got.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I think I have five of them, and then I
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: needed one more so I just got one off of
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Amazon recently.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I have no idea if it's you know, it's efficacious yet,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: but you can't.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Really tell me it's good though, But you need to
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: get the mold of the sources. If you don't get
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: rid of it exactly, still gonna get because they're so sensitively.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Once you get sensitized, it's easy for it to come
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: back because it doesn't just go out of your body
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: right away. And if you get well.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Tell people how to get fined someone in their community
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: that would be testing the.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: You know, the what do you call it micro tooks, Yeah,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: the mold, and the.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: First at least test for it, because they can mimic
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: other different things. You're not going to see like a
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: like a guy who just as a regular lappan, I'll
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: probably won't see anything. You see. The white count's a
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: little low, but that's all. That's like half the people
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: in the country after COVID have a low white count.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: So you really need to test for the micro toxins.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: And there's you know, oprah toks in a there's like many,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: many different kinds of mold, but there's about five that
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: come up constantly all the time. And then I mean,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: if you see mold in your in your bathroom, behind
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: your toilet, behind your refrigerator, you need to clean this
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: out and then yeah you are. If you are getting
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: sick and you don't know what's wrong with you, get
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: tested for mold. Because I didn't realize it. And I
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: asked doctor Lee, another doctor in Pasadena who does a
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: lot of mold testing for a lot of years, and
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: I say, how many patients one percent of your patient
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: load has mold? He said fifty percent? Yeah, Doc, because
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: this is California. But remember we have all the air
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: condition and all that might be even worse than someplace
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: that's cold. It doesn't the air conditioner. And I people
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: in Oregon with all the humidity and the rain and
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: everything that areas are endemic to me.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: But once they see that they do have mold toxicity
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: from the microtox and tests and they want to then
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: get rid of.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: It in their homes.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: How does how do you guide people in order to
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: pick the right company to come to do the testing.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: I can I it's called remediation, And I know I
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: have it in my contact list, the ones that are good.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: I don't have it. I don't have it in front
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: of me. I know there's a guy that used to
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: come through our meetings all the time. In Santa Monica,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: they had these special meetings where all the doctors would
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: get together once a month. It was amazing. I don't know.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: I think they're still doing it sometimes in the library there,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Santa Monica Library, there's one guy. He was like six
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: foot six, six foot eight, really really tall, and all
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: I remember he was talking about doing this mold remediation
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: back then. He's probably the baseline the best you can find. Yeah,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: I'd have to get back to you on the names, though, Okay.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: That would be great.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: I'd like to put that in our show notes because
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: I know, you know, it's always one thing to talk
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: in generalities about the issues and what to do, but
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: it's another thing quite to take action. And taking action
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: means you have to make the right decisions about and
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: you know, of course we're dealing with a huge world,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: so we're really kind of focused on our world, which
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: is the US.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Call my office. I mean, they can get a referral
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: from my office anytime they want or research it for anybody.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: That would be super okay.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: But in the meantime, I think if you could give
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: me that resource list, that would be a starter, because
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: very often if you call someone, let's say in Santa Monica,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: they know someone one of their colleagues in you know,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: another neighborhood.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Right, That's why I want to give you the name,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: because they're all friends. And I don't think there's a
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: huge group of these guys either. I mean more and more.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: I'm actually seeing billboards a couple of times for this,
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: So really are starting to get to be kind of
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: a crescendo or not yet, but it's getting up there.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Mold is just bad. If you have mold, you don't
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: treat it, and you have you're susceptible to it, You're
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: going to just be sick all the Yeah, we're going
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: to fix it. It's horrible. And then we use four peptides.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: We use four because doctor Holtork's whole deal was Shoemaker
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: had a whole bunch of protocols and that was the
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: old way that was always done and it took two
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: to three to four years. We can literally get someone
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: feeling better in like two or three months if we're
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: doing certain peptides KPV yeah one seven, Yeah, Thymus and
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: beta four and thymus and alpha one. That's like the
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: minimum those four in a good company, from a good
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: lab that knows what they're doing and they're not water down,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: they're not from China. So remember a lot of these things,
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: they don't have all the what do you call it like,
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: they're not they're not being constantly fgas monitor. I mean,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: I don't really think the FJA is very good, but
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: at least they keep the quality of stuff right now.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: It's it is kind of like the Wild West with peptides.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: So you got to know who's making them. You got
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: to know who's see I just know the person in
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: the company. Is he trustworthy, is a good person, Is
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: he's trying to help people? If he isn't, he has
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: a good product. Thosere the only guys I go with.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: So I assessed them from that point of view. I
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: think a lot of us have been forced to do that.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: So and the whole turf company Integrated Peptides is really
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: really good one and they're all oral too on his
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: website and they work really well. Just because they're not
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: injection doesn't mean they don't wor because I was skeptical
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: at first and every moment did those four top tides
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: and did coli styramine? Well, there's two kinds of coly staring.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: There's one from a compounding farms, and there's a there's
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: a there's a generalized commercial one which has some has
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: a little fruit toast, and it does have some things
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: in there that might not be perfect, but for most
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: people it works pretty well and they've gotten better.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: There's still a lot of people that are afraid of injections,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: but these just let people know. Yeah, if you are
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: afraid of an injectable, just take a look at the
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: size of the insulin syringe. It's just like this tiny
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: little needle and you know, you put the solution in
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: and you it's like a prick.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: You know, you don't feel it.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: But oral doctor Holtorf has been on my podcast Ask
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Can't and he's you know, they do the oral.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's quite He made it himself too. It's not
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: like there's somebody trying to make money. He's trying to
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: make it by science. So it works, right.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: So I'm glad you brought up test because that's kind
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: of the darling.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I think, like at a four AM it seemed like
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: that was the most talked about subject, even though there
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: weren't weren't as many lectures as people thought, but I
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: thought there should be.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: But there will be the Botey isn't completely known yet.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: That's why, Yeah, I think you're right, though you know
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: right now it's still the wild wild West, so people
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: have to be really really careful not to buy from
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: an influencer online.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: And not to buy not really but you don't know.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: It doesn't say China because no one would touch it.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: But the companies get all the ingredients from China. You
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: gotta at least you got to know who the good
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: ones are, all the rest you don't touch.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: So y well, that would be another thing.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: If you could give us a list when you have
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: a moment when you're doing the the other requests about
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: the mold, if you could give us a list of
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: the resources for peptides that are efficacious, but.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: The ones I buy from or you can't buy the
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: lay people people, you can't buy from those companies.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: They have to go through a practitioner exactly.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: That's the thing I'm trying to say too for everybody
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: listening and watching, is your first step is to get
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: a practitioner, to have somebody that knows peptides like you,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: and it's going to work with you on a on
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: a medical.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Basis, because don't try to be your own doctor.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Not when it comes to something that even though it's
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: it's you know, essentially it's harmless because they're amino acids.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, but you can still you don't want
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: to waste your money exactly. You don't want to get
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: watered down or even or so if it is from
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: China though it could be could be dangerous because that's
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: what I'm going to say. And they're not like our
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: friend and they don't. I mean, I don't want to
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: say anything bad, but you never know what's in stuff
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: from China. Just be careful. You need to check it
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: or you don't want to use it as possible.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: And the other thing. As much as I respect can,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I do think that the more.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Potent form of using peptides is injections because it goes
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: right to the place that.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: I do also, but there are some that work actually better,
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: and he has I've been using this from his website
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: and he's an exception. These peptides on integrated peptides are
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: really powerful. I mean I use like on like one
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: hundred people in the last like six months. Yes, mostly
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: for mold and stuff, but I also do three other
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: companies that have injectables because they have stacks. Now some
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: guys are saying the stacks are no good because the
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: peptids inside the stacks will stop each peptid from working,
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: will interfere with the function. Now, that's what I'm starting
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: to see coming up now, at least some of the
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: really bright mds and stuff. We're talking on the Instagram.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: And there's one guy, he's brilliant. I don't know his name.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: I just downloaded like six of his videos and I
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: literally have to go inch by inch going through what
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: he's saying to match it up what I've already learned,
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: to make sure that what it you know that I
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: believe in it, and what he's saying.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: And you don't remember his name.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: I could, Can I figure it out for you right now?
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Please? This guy is like on the money. He tells
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: it in layman's terms, like what exactly what's happening. I
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: really like this guy a lot, and he's like, I
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: definitely had some gaps with the biochemistry because it's just
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: not even known and it's all starting to come out now.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Just I gotta I don't have the Instagram. I's going
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: to get it back on my phone.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: While you're looking.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: I'll go on and say to everyone that's watching today
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: with my followers and viewers here that those four peptides
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: that you mentioned, and add to that GHKCU, which is.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: The copper peptide, which I'll talk about in a moment
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: with you.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: But those four kind of like the they've kind of
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: like the foundational peptides.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: If you're going to start with peptize, it doesn't.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Even matter what conditions you're treating, because those four will
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: treat some repects.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's called the shotgun when the doctor doesn't know
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: what he's doing, okay, to make you feel better. But yeah,
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: I mean we I try never to do that. I
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: mean I did that in the first five ten years
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: of my practice because you're new and you're just trying
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: stuff out. But by now there is biochemistry about these
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: medicines and we do understand them, especially KPV BPC, TV
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: five hundred and thymus and nof for one. No one
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: has been used for like forty years. When I was
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: in Belgium at her Talk's clinic, they had it. Back then,
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: it was like all under cover and so secret because
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: the government was like against this. Oh, it was crazy.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: It's one of the best things for cancer to boost
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: the immune system through the roof, so it really helps
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: to fix the immune system. Oh, here's the name. It's Trevor,
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: doctor Trevor tr e v O R Bachmeier b A
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: c h m e y r.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, one second, I'm writing it down, doctor Trevor. And
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: how do you spell his last name?
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: B A c h m e y e r.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Let me let me.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: See it on your on the screen. Oh, it's not
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: just coming up like, hold on, it's not it's not
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: showing its Uh say it again.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Gin Bach like bach the composer b A c h
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: M e y e.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: R bach Bachmeyer. Okay, I've never heard of him.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: I had no idea, and all of a sudden ill
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: and he's like, because he's debunking a lot of stuff
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: that's coming out from let's say, let's just say sources
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: that aren't as educated with university and with all the
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: you know, biochemistry behind them. And he cites research too,
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: like he talks really fast. In the middle of they'll
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: be like, and there's a nineteen eighty study a blah
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: blah bah I said, and he'll be writ in line
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: with what he's talking about. So he'll cite the research
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: and it's really to me, it's totally interesting. He elucidates
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: the biochemistry and Layman's terms and biochemistry together so you
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: can understand, and it's exciting, and it's it's only like
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: a minute or two for each subject. You know, it's
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: super bright. So the patients so they can understand better.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: So so back to these the fourth foundation, the five
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: au sing but so BBC one five seven, just for
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: everybody to know, is probably the number one selling peptide,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: and that's because it does so much and you could
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: take it orally for the gut, and you can also
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: take it SubQ for more of your joints and so forth.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: But it is kind of a foundational that, I mean,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: athletes use it, people like me use it.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: People like even I thought, and this is because we
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: only had a certain amount of bout camp. I thought
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: it was for the gut and mostly for inflammatory for
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: information the joints. It's called Body Protection compound, but not
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: just for the gut, but it really targets the gut
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: and if you any leaky gut, any problems with anything
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: like that, you're gonna have inflammation through your whole body.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: And as soon as you have that, it's going to
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: attack your thyroid. You're gonna have subclinical hypothyroid. No doctor's
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: gonna diagnosed that. You're gonna limp along and I'll give you,
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: You'll give you synthroid, leave with the rocks and if
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: you're lucky, which is gonna purchase. It's just this whole
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: bad path are going on. So it really helps with that.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: But then recently I went to West Palm Beach and
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: I was in a less lecture with was the Aimes
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Group from New York. But the lady who was was
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: doing the lecture was, she's really right, she's a she's
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: a DC, she's very aggressive. She has the peptide. It's
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: like a peptide university. Peptide University, that's who it was.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: And they were going into like literally for hours about
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: BPC and the notes transcriber like three for pages now
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: of what it does in the body, and it's way
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: more than anybody could ever imagine. That's a good one
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: to start with for sure.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna write that down. Peptide University. I think
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: I've seen some advertising from them, But death Lady is
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: not from la though, right, because there was somebody that
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: contacted me and she was having a conference in La
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: and I.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Don't think I've ever seen them have anything in La.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, So just tell everybody why you combine BPC. Well,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: BPC and KPV are often combined.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: DV is really good for mass cell degranulation. For mc AS,
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: the mass cell the disease where your mass cells are
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: being triggered by everything or eating that is going to
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: give you. It's gonna go all to immunity alone is
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: enough to make you so so sick and feel horrible.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: One of my patients has MCAS and she had a
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: yogurt by accident. She was vomiting for like two days.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, it can be that trigger that much. But
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: she had a lot of mold things. And there's when
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: you have reactions like that, there's something behind it. You
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: really need to find out what it is and start
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: cleaning it up. And we're seeing the patients are getting
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: sicker and sicker with more and more pathology and different
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: things like you have mold and you have lime, and
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: you have mold and lime, and then you have like
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know, you have a lot of viral infections. Right, Like,
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: so if you don't know if you don't elucidate those things.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: And I'm telling from experience because I would just try
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: to treat patients and sometimes they don't have the money
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: for the labs, and I can see how much harder
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: it is if they're really sick. Then if we figure
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: out exactly what's going on, you always want to know.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: So Vibrant labs I gotta plug them a lot of
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: times today. They're what's really helped me to elucidate those pathways.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Where is Vibrant Labs located?
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Virus not too far from here? They're in California.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Okay? So are they like the lab core that you get.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Your No, no way. They're very specialized lab. They're doing
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: stuff that I mean, I'm doing a lecture now in
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: the cardiology panel. The cardiology zoomer they call it is
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: eighty four markers just on your heart in your vascular system. Wow,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: it's that comprehensive. It's the coolest thing.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Can I get that? Can I get that done through you?
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, yeah, I can do.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Where do you draw the blood?
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Though? Uh? You? If it is blood, you'll have to
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: get a mobile blood draw with Vibrant, But they.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Have a mobile yeah, yeah, they can do it.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: I can also do I also do like a seventy
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: five eighty marker panel with Clive Heart Lab, which Quest bought. Yeah,
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: so you have all those Quest draw stations all over
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: the country, so we can do tell the medicine wherever
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: you want. And it's a functional medicine panel, so we
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: can do that with you if you want, or you
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: can pay the cash. The Vibrant is only cash though.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just going to say that's good. The thing
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: for me, and like a lot of people, is my
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: insurance pays for my labs. That's the one thing that
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: insurance does do they.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Do it for very It's very still not if they
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: don't like what, they're going to come back and you
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: a lot of them. It's tough. But I had a
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: guy come in my office the other day from pil Labs. Yeah,
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: I've heard of them. I know that. He told me.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'll say this online. He may deny it
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: because I'm saying it to the public, but he basically
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: said that the company will do whatever we want whenever
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: we need functional and then whatever covers covers and that's
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: what they take and they don't try to that's it
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: they stop there, which is very reputable. That's a very well.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: When I go to lab court, they normally look at
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: the requisition and they say, these are the tests that
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: we know will not be covered, and are you willing to.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Pay cash for those?
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Crazy enough?
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Bidamin D three is one of the ones that Medicare
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: in my case, doesn't cover, So I don't.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: It's crazy because that's such an important You're.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Working in Medicare, that's yeah. I'm a Nacha pass so
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: I don't work in Medicare. All they want to know.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: I know. And that's why all by medical because I
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: work with only concierge medicine, So I don't work with
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: any doctor that because that would define them as more
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: allopathic and that's completely.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: Not going to cover though. That's the thing. Yeah, we get,
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: but no, I only get.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: That's why I said, I only get the labs covered.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: And that's why it shocks me when I see that
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: that certain insurance will not cover certain tests that are
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: so essential to our health.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. If you try to do
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: one hundred marker vibrant panel and send it to LA
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: and send it to Medicare to get covered, they're gonna
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: slash it up and down and they're not even going
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: to cover like twenty percent of it.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe you don't need it. Maybe with Robert F.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Kennedy and the changes that we're seeing.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, that's what we want. Patients should get one
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: hundred marcro lab panel. I mean, not everybody, but if
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: I well, remember my patients are forty to seventy. Typically
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: when a lot of menopaulitas, they're all starting and they
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: all have fifty start to break down. So I want everything.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: I need everything. If they're all twenties and thirties, Okay,
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: I don't need this massive panel, but I want it
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: for my patients now. Definitely. They want it and I
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: want it, and I use it like I don't use it.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: It's like the mthf R team.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: You know that a lot of doctors don't even ask
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: that very important.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: If you have two variants, if you have two homozygous,
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: look out, because it's really hard to treat those patients.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: They can't detoc they can't get anything out of their body.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: They're give them too much of a good thing. They'll
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: back up, They'll they'll say, you made me sick, and
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: you're like oh man, double MTHFR. I'm totally okay. Here's
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: the methyl groups, here's methylation, here's whatever. Let's start fixing
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: this or do the genetic, the full genetic three sixty.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: I work with cash Con. You know cash Con.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, I was just going to tell you
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: he's one of my very good friends. I love to
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: get a lot of people in common.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: He's so cool. And I'm doing I did my own
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: DNA through sixty. I'm going over now a six month
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: deep dive so I know how to use it for
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: my patients, and I have them right here so we
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: can always run that if you're really starting to have
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: problems where all even the functional stuff you're doing isn't working.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: If you're really doing it like whole tour for like
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: I am good, if you're not, then there's more leeway
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: to figure out what you're doing wrong. But if you're
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: really doing it right and you got all the labs
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: and you're still not healing, really you need to run
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: that big snip penalt and see all the sniffs.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Well, I did Kim Wrestler's snip and I did cash
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Cons the DNA company, so I've done both. I know
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: you don't need to, but both of them are on
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: my podcast, and I wanted to support their work and
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I also want to be able to talk about it.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: I mean the Snip Kim Wrestler's company, which is down
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: by you in southern cal and then the DNA company,
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: which Tracy would the CEO because Cash is now the
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: you know, he stepped up to a business development so
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: he's the founder. But the DNA companies in Toronto. But
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Tracy would, who's.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Really really smart. She's right by you, so you know,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: she's definite kind of a US.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: I love, just a bright guy man, and he's bringing
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: stuff in that I knew, you know, the mental, emotional,
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: the spiritual aspect. As you get older, I guess you
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: get busier. It's just some A lot of patients don't
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: want to deal with that, but that's so key to
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: find out where are they blocked, where are they stuck?
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: What are their addictions? I mean, if they're eating sugar
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: every day and they don't tell you, you'll find out.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: But if they can't stop, why would you go into
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: anything else and try to help them. You've got to
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: fix that problem up front. Anything like that, or major
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: depression or stuff like that let's try to work on
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: that first, get the mental emotional blocks out, then we
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: can fix the physical. But there is one case which
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: I can tell you. Even if you can't fix those things,
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: you could do homeopathy because I'm a homeopath. I'm a Handamanian.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: Homeopathy quite remedy for one patient. You take a case
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: for two or three hours, you know the patient better
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: than you know themselves. He put it into a software
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: with gigs of information of all the homeopaths. It ciphers
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: down blah blah blah. You get the special symptoms called rubrics,
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: and you got ten remedies that matches that patient perfectly.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: You can underneath energetically start to heal them and you
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: don't need to do anything else.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, with AI, I throw it.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: Into the rock. I throw my I'd done that and
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: I had got two remedies out of.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Their work, right right, Yeah, Well, Elon Musk bold.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: Enough to say that, I don't mean to say this
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: to you because it's kind of challenging, but he said
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: that in the future they won't need to be a
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: medical school. People won't go because retreated by AI.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: I agree someone on that. With the mechanisms and all
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: the and the machinery. But I don't like that for
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: the fact that if you go back to Chinese medicine
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: a couple thousand years ago, Sun Simeo Huatua Lisha Jin,
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: you know, the Dowda Jing, and you look at all
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: that those guys were so elevated to such levels because
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: they practiced chigung every day, the only eight vegetables that
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: grew above the ground. They were righteous, very powerful. They
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: could see in your body as soon as you walked
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: in the office what was wrong with you, every layer
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: through your whole body, because their third hoar was open.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: So there is that, and there's intuition, which is massive.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: So if you go to a practitioner that really walks
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: the walk and really, you know, I was forced to.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: I got my bucketed all along the way. I'll admit it.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: And I'd like to go back to the partying days
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: to France and the Riviera and going crazy and drinking white.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: But there's no way I could do it. I would
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: just die. You know, I don't want you.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: You were actually blessed by the angels to be songless path.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: Early, so blessed. They can't even say that.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: I mean just I always every day, show gratitude for
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: all those things that have happened that you know could
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: have been challenging and being opportunities because me.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: But I still I still want to drive around a
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: por Turbo Carrera with alligator crocodile's shoes. I'm very materialistic,
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: but I'm very spiritually corea and I don't go and
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: buy that stuff. Actually, one of my patients gave me.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: He gave me, and I will admit it, he gave me.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: I forget the name of it. Anyway, you gave me
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: shoes that were worth like, you can't even price some
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: crocodile shoes. So hey, I got some moccasins. I don't
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: wear them anymore. You want them? I was like, so crazy.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Well, Yeahati, at least you're honest about admitting what your
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: vulnerabilities are.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: What you're Yeah, I got to be open. Now.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: You also know the disciplines of a good life.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: So there's a big difference between lifespan and health span,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: and the sooner you learn that and the sooner you
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: recognize that aging doesn't have to be a life sentence
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: of pain and suffering.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: That actually, well, basically.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: Most Americans they spend sixty to eighty years old at
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: doctor's office. That's all he do. Yes, that it's horrible,
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: and the RFK and you and me and all of
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: us are trying to change that. It should not be
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: that way. But you know, but on the whole other side,
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: like there's a whole nother camp that's saying the new
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: eighty is one twenty and there's no way, and there's
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: people living one hundred. Whe of my patients told me
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: his dad lived one hundred and sixteen. Well, you don't
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: hear this. You don't hear this in the in the
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: Blue zones and all your national career, you don't hear
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: any of this. But there was a Blue Zone lecture
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: at a par m in twenty twenty three where they
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: showed a man who is one hundred years old water skiing. Yeah.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was having a good time.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: He was strong, he's literally water skiing. So there's because,
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: especially when we're living in this country, we don't understand
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: any of that because we're so inundated with so many
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: chemicals and pollution and stress and craziness. But you know,
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: I bet you those Blue zones around the world, I
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: bet you they didn't have any COVID cases in many
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: of them Sardinia, and there's actually one here Low Melinda
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: and those blue zones because there's a religious group there.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: And also my sister works in the Amish country. She
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: worked in Pennsylvania and near in Purcicies, right, what's it
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: called the major city there. We're all the Amish. I
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: mean they see them going by in their buggies with
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: no electricity or anything. They have no disease, virtually nothing,
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: no COVID, no autism, nothing, So why think about it?
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'm going to get.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: Back to that one. And We're starting to get back
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: to those farms in Nebraska are starting to put proof.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Look at with the food pyramid, you know, they just.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: I know, I saw like on Facebook. It was hysterical.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: I had like those little kids, the you know, the
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: little nasty kids there in that cartoon and the pyramid
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: turned upside down. Oh my god, what are gonna do?
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: And then the other guys are like, oh, we have
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: lyft uf No, we can't do that. The FDA didn't
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: approve it, like you should turn the pyramid upside don't.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: And once they did it like whoa, everything's flowing, everything's
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: in check, everything's wonderful, Like tell the president to have
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: some butter with a steak. Yeah, totally hilarious.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Right, Unfortunately Donald Trump is not the pillar of example
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: for good diet.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: But well, but there's a Mother Teresa effect though I
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: called the Mother Teresa. When someone is so spiritual, they're
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: so giving, they're like a Buddhist. I'll give you the
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: shirt off their back. They have no anger, They've worked.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: It's whatever they're born with it. They work through the life.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, illness will not stick to these people
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: very much. There's something to really think about there. Yeah,
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: that's the state.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Your thoughts create your reality.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: So thank you.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: It's like what you eat, it's.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: What you are think, it's what you are. Yeah. Well,
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: in following Gong, we totally if you're not practicing truthfulness, compassion,
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: tolerance and everything you say, everything you do, and everything
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: you you you you think, then you're just an example. Now,
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: Like I've cultivated for a long time and I'm at
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: a pretty good level, but I'll have like a thought
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: that sneaks in and I don't I won't like deny.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: It's not like I acknowledge it instantly. I'll hit my
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: head on something or I'll stub my toe really bad
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: every single time. It's like paying for karma, Like just
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: that one thought was enough to give me that at
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: my level, everybody's at their level, so you gotta be
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: really careful with that. But it becomes a lifestyle after
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: a while. We're not it's not like a school. We're thinking, oh,
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: what's my thought? No, it's cause naturally, because you become
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: that person.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: That's what I love of all the people that you've
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: crossed paths with, just telling you know, if you can,
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: who would be the most influential on your thinking and
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: you're doing in your life.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's going to hands down Master Lee
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: Hong Ju, who brought fell a Gong out to society.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: He he knows me and that I'm a cultivator and
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: the millions of cultivators. But I met him three times
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: and shook his hand and I saw stuff. I felt
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: energy that you can't even imagine. It was so incredible.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: And where is he?
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: There's a compound in New York State where the main
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: Fonkong headquarters is, and I guess he's all over, but
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: he's there a lot of times. He's founder of Shen
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Yung He made the Sheenyung Show. So Sheenyung wasn't made
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: by the disciples like us who have a lot of
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: you know, we still were cultivating. We're not perfect. It
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: was made by Master Lee. So every single button, every
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: single gown, every single costume is from all those dynasties
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: because he knew what they were in his mind. Yeah,
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: he's very amazing.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm interested to know how you balance the
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: science with the spirituality.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: What how do you how do you do that?
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: I do the spirituality and I love the science for
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: my patients. I mean, that's only why I can explain it.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: I'm I've been trained for twenty five years. I read
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: I did exactly what. Actually, as I read the book
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: every day, I read every script, I really get into it.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: So I understand where diseases and where it's coming from
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: at a very high level. So, and I'm not going
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: to talk about it on the show. Is that something
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: most people could never understand. But you don't ever have
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: to be sick ever if you can change your thinking.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: So what would you say is your greatest.
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: Triumph overcoming every crazy pretty much well very hedonistic lifestyle
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: that was dragging me down and was probably going to
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: kill me, to becoming who I am now responsible helping people,
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: you know, a steward to people's money. I mean, if
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: I don't do it now, I can't. I don't want
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: to go backwards. I try. I want to go live
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: in that happy with just talking and drinking and having fun. Look,
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: I tried enough times. It just destroys me. So why
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: And when I move ahead, I feel pretty good. It's
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: not it's not perfect, but I'm pretty happy. I'm never
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: depressed anymore. I'm not super rich or anything, but I
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: like my life and I like helping people. Well, anyway,
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: let me just tell you what Riata. When I was
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: about twenty one years old or twenty years old, I
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: went to the Jersey Shore. I used to live in
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: New Jersey, right, and I love the Jersey Shore. I
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: still like New Jersey. And there's a guy named Richard Landauer.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: He died, unfortunately. It was a richie. He's a really
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: good friend of ours. And he had this aunt, it's
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: kind of crazy aunt. And she did the card She
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: was a card right. I never ever went to a
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: card reader or anything. And she's she's just come on,
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: d Dana, go over there, and you don't read your
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: card she wants and she's like, yes, honey, come to me.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: Like she was so funny, like I know she's Greek
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: or she wasn't, I mean she was first, second she
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: was from another country anyway. So she read my cards
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: and I got all the best cards, every single one. Wow.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: She said, this never happens except for one, and that
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: was I guess. I don't know if you call it addiction,
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: but just hedonistic hedonism, like a hundred times one hundred
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: times two hundred just whenever it was fun, I would
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: do it to the extent like just destruction almost right.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: So I really and I knew what it was she
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: was talking about, and I didn't want to admit it
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: because I wanted to keep like, I didn't want to
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: become the hole in the donut because back then, when
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: you're doing all this stuff, you think you're gonna give
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: it all up, Well, what's left in your life? There's
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: nothing left. There's the most amazing level where you go
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: to and it's completely different, Master Lisa, I have my
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: joys at my level. Yeah, it's so true. And I
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: I never thought I could be where I am now.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: And I'm saying entire Lord it's just a different way
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: of being than you were in the past.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: And this is really cool, Dana, because a lot of
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: people don't know how to combine their spirituality with their
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: scientific training and.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Some usually they give one up for the other. And
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: you're you're a good a great role model for people
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: who can do both.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you something. There's another way to
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: look at that. There's a bunch there's a lot mostly
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: Chinese people practice, so I know a lot. You know,
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: the Chinese people coming here in the universes are the
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: top of the crop of the country. They're the best,
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: they're the smartest, and they all come here and a
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: lot of them are PhDs. And I know, I wouldn't
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: say multiple, I know at least two or three cases
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: were the PhD. They came to a part of their
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: research in medical research where they had to kill animals.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: They had to do experience, they had to euthanize animals
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: and if ill on go it says you can't kill
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: anything nothing. And they've been practicing this for a while,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: for four or five years. It wasn't like they just
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: started and they didn't care. And they got a lot
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: of benefits and everything, and they started to know what
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: this was, and they understood how powerful and what a
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: miracle this is, and they quit their PhDs. They counted
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: six maybe seven figure salaries. Because so that's looking at
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: it almost the opposite way, right where they were gonna
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: just do this because they know they know how for
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: whatever reason they like, they were so disciplined. They loved
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: that practice so much. They're not gonna. And in China
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: they're getting persecuted, they're getting tortured, they organs cut out
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: of their bodies, and in the labor camps, they try
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: to make them stamp on Mashley's picture. They might them
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: say like all day long, follow Gong's bad fallow Gong's evil,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: blah blah blah. We're in reality, it's the Chinese government
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: that's evil and we all know that. Unfortunately, and a
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: lot of them won't do it, and they're tortured mercilessly,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: and many of them, if they're very righteous and they
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: have no fear, they're told to leave. Yeah, in fact,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: all the rest of the people around I don't mean,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: in fact, they helped them to start to stand up
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: to this bad stuff peacefully always and you just totally
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: won't do anything no one in all of jail will
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: do anything you tell them to, and you can't change them.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: You can't even have a jail of people anymore. How
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: do you even work. So there's a lot of them
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: that get out and they're so righteous and they're so
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: non they don't have no fear at all. That's a
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  Speaker 3: very hard time.
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  Speaker 1: I hate to interrupt you, and I'm so fascinated with
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  Speaker 1: everything you're saying. They just flagged me that our time
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  Speaker 1: is up.
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  Speaker 2: So I want to be.
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  Speaker 1: Sure people know the wonderful gift you've offered.
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  Speaker 2: To anyone that's one of the ageless viewers that has
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  Speaker 2: heard this or has a friend who could benefit.
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  Speaker 1: They all they just have to use the code. Let's
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  Speaker 1: just say ageless twenty if that's okay with you, and
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  Speaker 1: I'll put that to.
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  Speaker 2: You in an email after It's just so, now it's
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  Speaker 2: coming through us, and you've offered a one hour complimentary consultation.
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  Speaker 2: Normally that costs four hundred and fifty dollars, So everybody
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  Speaker 2: listen up. And if you can, if I don't mean
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  Speaker 2: to overwhelm Dana, but uh, if you can, if you
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  Speaker 2: can contact them, where how shall they contact you?
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  Speaker 5: I can give you the main number, and there's two numbers, okay, six,
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  Speaker 5: go ahead, six two six eight four two nine one
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  Speaker 5: two three okay, and then three one oh three, five
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  Speaker 5: one six four seven four.
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  Speaker 3: Uh. The second number you can call and text. The
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  Speaker 3: first one you can call, and then yeah, I'm in Arcadia, California.
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  Speaker 3: Now I'm not down Orange County anymore. Okay, we're here
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  Speaker 3: like eight miles south of Pasadena and southern CALSTA. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: You did tell me that. So, but the first number
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  Speaker 1: would be to an office.
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  Speaker 3: They're both in my office. Yeah. The first number is
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  Speaker 3: that just the regular phone. The second is a is
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  Speaker 3: a cell.
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  Speaker 1: Phone, so okay, the cell phone and you could text
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  Speaker 1: to that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely. The girls are on in my front desk.
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  Speaker 3: Their twenties are very adapted, very fast.
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  Speaker 2: That's the three one oh three five I had, one
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  Speaker 2: six four seven is the cell phone, six two six
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  Speaker 2: eight for nine one two three is an office.
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  Speaker 1: Do not text to that number.
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  Speaker 3: And then the the Churchill Center dot com t H E.
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  Speaker 3: Churchill c h U R c h I L L
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  Speaker 3: Center dot Com is my website, okay, and I have
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  Speaker 3: massive amounts of videos on YouTube all over there's if
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  Speaker 3: you want to set up videos. They got forty thousand
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  Speaker 3: views on everyone there's epic epic times did them for me.
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  Speaker 3: It's a long I'll send you U r L. It's long.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a it's not a platform. That's not on
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  Speaker 3: anything else. You can only access through that platform. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: oh no, some of them on my website. Sorry, there
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  Speaker 3: are some of my website. And the one that got
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  Speaker 3: the most hits was on thyroid. That was one of
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  Speaker 3: the biggest.
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  Speaker 2: It was going to talk about that's okay, well we
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  Speaker 2: will do that next time. But that's become another really
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  Speaker 2: big hot topic.
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  Speaker 1: But okay, well I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Gonna run on you now because I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: get us cut off.
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  Speaker 1: But thank you, thank you, thank you, and thank youselfing
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  Speaker 1: in touch with you. I'll be in touch with you offline.
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  Speaker 3: All right. Cool, have a great day.
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  Speaker 1: All right, you have a good day.
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  Speaker 3: Bye bye, dear, Thanks, thanks so much.
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