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The Next Round: Gene Chizik Sounds the Alarm on Alabama & Makes a Bold Oklahoma Prediction | Hour 2 · The Next Round

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  Speaker 1: Hour number two of the next round presented by Hard
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  Speaker 1: Rock Bets on Sport and State. We start SEC play
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  Speaker 1: tonight with Arkansas Pine Bluff in Missouri. New quarterback situation there.
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma gets on the field tomorrow night and then the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the SEC on Saturday and Sunday. Man, I
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  Speaker 1: had a chance to hang out with Gene Chizik recently. Man,
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  Speaker 1: this guy knows ball. I love to hear him talk.
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  Speaker 1: Great motivator. What's his Twitter stuff? Chizdom? Yeah, words of Chizdom.
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  Speaker 1: Words of Chizdom. Fascinating stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Coach, did you give Dunaway some words of Chizdom? He
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  Speaker 2: needed them. I hope you left him with some.
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  Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, Ryan. I went into the event
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  Speaker 3: thinking I liked Jim. And then the event happened. And
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  Speaker 3: now I'm not so sure. But he is funny. I
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  Speaker 3: will tell you that. I love him. He did a
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  Speaker 3: great job. We had a great event that night. So
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  Speaker 3: we had a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: It did not dawn on me that when I was
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  Speaker 1: covering Gene Chizik's national championship run, He never knew I
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  Speaker 1: was hosting the Nick Saban show at the same time.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he revealed that to me that night and it
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  Speaker 3: took me back. It took me about a minute to
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  Speaker 3: gather myself back together. But then I think we came
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  Speaker 3: to a good place.
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  Speaker 4: So, Coach, kind of a broad brush question here. we're
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  Speaker 4: in such a weird time with college football, but like
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  Speaker 4: Oklahoma State this weekend, Eric Morris, a first year guy
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  Speaker 4: is breaking in 65 transfer first year players. Like how
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  Speaker 4: much can you really, and some of those guys are
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  Speaker 4: North Texas, so he brought those over with him, but
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  Speaker 4: how much can you really know about your team when
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  Speaker 4: you have this mass amount? It seems like every team's
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  Speaker 4: bringing in 25 plus before you roll out week one.
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  Speaker 4: How much do you really know?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question. I remember when we were
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  Speaker 3: at SEC Media Days, I didn't realize this, but we
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  Speaker 3: had Ryan Silverfield on there from Arkansas, and he says
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  Speaker 3: on air, we were doing an interview with him, I've
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  Speaker 3: got 80-plus new players. That's mind-boggling to me. That's a
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  Speaker 3: whole team. So using the example you just used, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know the answer to that. I've never even remotely
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  Speaker 3: been a part of anything that crazy. Now, I retired
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  Speaker 3: after the 23 season. And it was becoming a very
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  Speaker 3: transient college football landscape simply because NIL was growing. It
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  Speaker 3: wasn't where it is now. But you could feel a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of that. The roster's changing and guys slipping
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  Speaker 3: in and out. But to have a wholesale 60 to
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  Speaker 3: 80 guys on a roster, I don't know how you
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  Speaker 3: know what your team looks like. And to be fair,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you know who your team is until
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  Speaker 3: probably midpoint in the season. Because you have to go
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  Speaker 3: through all of the emotions, right? All the highs, the lows,
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  Speaker 3: the swings, the play good, the play bad. You know,
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  Speaker 3: look at position groups. I'll use the offensive line as
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  Speaker 3: an example. Offensive line, those guys, that group has to
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  Speaker 3: play together for a long time to be in sync,
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  Speaker 3: to be able to, you know, execute and do the
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  Speaker 3: things they need to do. And I'll just use them
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  Speaker 3: as an example. I don't know how you do that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's several teams in our league that that
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  Speaker 3: are literally starting with five new guys. So it's an
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  Speaker 3: enigma to me. It's definitely the challenge of the new
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  Speaker 3: generation coaches that have kind of been raised up through this.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the case they've got to crack, right? They've
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  Speaker 3: got to crack the code for how they get their
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  Speaker 3: team to be known early in the season because you
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  Speaker 3: just don't know who they are, to be frank.
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  Speaker 1: I really believe Alabama coach is the highest ranked team
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  Speaker 1: with the most unknowns on offense. Tell me what you
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  Speaker 1: see on Alabama's offensive side of the football. Are there
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  Speaker 1: a lot of questions there for you?
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  Speaker 3: There is, Jim. I mean, obviously, they're always going to
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  Speaker 3: have talent. We know, you know, Kalen, I think, has
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  Speaker 3: done a really, really good job in terms of, you know,
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  Speaker 3: bringing in talent. that's never been a problem. I think
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  Speaker 3: Nick passed the baton to him. He's done a good
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  Speaker 3: job of that. But in this landscape, if you just
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  Speaker 3: go back last year, the concern that, well, let me
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  Speaker 3: rephrase that. What I'm going to be looking for, because
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  Speaker 3: I see all these ESPN, you know, rankings and how
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  Speaker 3: they come up with these, I don't know. You know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean? That's an enigma to me. But anyway,
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  Speaker 3: they're ranked really high in just about any poll you
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  Speaker 3: look at, right? But The question would be to me
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  Speaker 3: if it wasn't Alabama with all of the clout that
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  Speaker 3: they have built up over the Nick Saban years and
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  Speaker 3: even last year. And you can't take away what Kalen
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  Speaker 3: DeBoer did last year going into Athens and beating Georgia
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  Speaker 3: at Georgia, getting to the college football playoff. That's a
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  Speaker 3: big deal. Now, to the Alabama people, that's not enough
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  Speaker 3: because winning a national championship, it's that or bust, right?
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  Speaker 3: But when you look at what he did last year
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  Speaker 3: and then you look at where the weaknesses of the
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  Speaker 3: teams were, they were weak on the offensive line. Well,
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  Speaker 3: they lost essentially almost every single guy except one offensive
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  Speaker 3: lineman that started like six games. Then you look at
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  Speaker 3: a running game that they couldn't get going. They struggled
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  Speaker 3: with that. I thought they were going to go in
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  Speaker 3: and get a really, really productive tailback in the portal,
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  Speaker 3: whatever it takes to get one. If you think about
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  Speaker 3: the national championship teams that Alabama's had, I can't think
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  Speaker 3: of one that could not run the football. And right now,
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  Speaker 3: based on last year, they could not. So the offensive
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  Speaker 3: line lost everybody. The running back room got one year older,
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  Speaker 3: but they didn't add anything to that room. And now
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  Speaker 3: you've got a new starting quarterback, which I love the
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  Speaker 3: prospects of Keelan Russell. I really do, guys, because this
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  Speaker 3: day and age when an offensive line is trying to gel,
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  Speaker 3: You've got to have a guy that has escapability back there,
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  Speaker 3: and he certainly has all that. So, yes, Jim, I
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  Speaker 3: have question marks, but it's a really good coaching staff,
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  Speaker 3: and they'll get it done.
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  Speaker 2: Coach Gene Chizik with us. You'll see him on the
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  Speaker 2: SEC Network throughout the week and weekend as we launch
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  Speaker 2: week one of college football. Coach, if you're Tennessee coach
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  Speaker 2: Josh Heupel, you're starting a true freshman quarterback, and you've
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  Speaker 2: got an overmatched opponent in Furman, but the schedule gets
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  Speaker 2: real after that. You've got to go to Georgia Tech next.
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  Speaker 2: Texas is coming up in a couple of weeks. How
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  Speaker 2: do you handle that? I mean, do you just say, hey, Furman,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry you're getting a paycheck, but I got to
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  Speaker 2: get my guy some confidence. He's just going to throw
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  Speaker 2: all day. I mean, how do coaches that you've dealt
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  Speaker 2: with generally handle that with a true freshman quarterback making
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  Speaker 2: his first start?
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  Speaker 3: Well, the goal at the end of the day is
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  Speaker 3: to make sure that he's got confidence and that the
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  Speaker 3: people around him believe in him. My guess is that
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  Speaker 3: they have both of those already coming out of camp, right?
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  Speaker 3: They're undefeated right now. So you start out with a
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  Speaker 3: team like Furman where, more than likely, they're going to
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  Speaker 3: be able to go up and down the field at will.
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  Speaker 3: But remember, Tennessee's philosophy offensively, no matter what people think,
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  Speaker 3: everything is about cutting their teeth on running the football.
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  Speaker 3: Deshaun Bishop is back, right? They've got a run game.
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  Speaker 3: They've always had a run game. I don't care who
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  Speaker 3: the starting quarterbacks were. You can go back through the
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  Speaker 3: test of time. Josh Heupel is old school, physical offense. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to spread you out sideline to sideline. If
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  Speaker 3: you don't cover out, I'm going to kick the ball
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  Speaker 3: out there. But I'm going to create space and create
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  Speaker 3: a running game. So that's really good for a young quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: They will do that. He doesn't have to win the game, right?
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  Speaker 3: But he's got to get enough in this game against
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  Speaker 3: Furman where he feels great about passing concept. He feels
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  Speaker 3: great about seeing the field. He feels great about his
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  Speaker 3: escapability and get a feel for his offensive line. But
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you, this kid, if you go
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  Speaker 3: back and you check his oil from high school– He
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  Speaker 3: was something else now. I mean, he's a five-star guy.
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  Speaker 3: He's a real deal guy. I want to say he
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  Speaker 3: won two state championships. I want to say, guys, he
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  Speaker 3: was like 30-something and two as a starter in high school.
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  Speaker 3: And I remember seeing him in our camps at the
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  Speaker 3: University of North Carolina when he was young, saying, this
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  Speaker 3: dude is legit. So, It'll be interesting. And let's not
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  Speaker 3: gloss over the addition of Jim Knowles on defense for Tennessee.
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  Speaker 3: That was a huge deal as well.
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  Speaker 4: Defense still wins championships going back two years ago or
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  Speaker 4: three years ago. Michigan to Ohio State to Indiana, the
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  Speaker 4: second best scoring defense last year in college football. The
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  Speaker 4: best scoring defense last year in the SEC was Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of people believe Venables. I mean, it was
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  Speaker 4: so good. The offense was bad and they still went
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  Speaker 4: to a college football playoff. and hosted a game there.
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  Speaker 4: If I asked you as a defensive mind, who will
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  Speaker 4: have the best defense in the SEC this year, it
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  Speaker 4: would be?
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  Speaker 3: Oklahoma. I'm just telling you now, they've got a lot
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  Speaker 3: of returning experience. Kip Lewis at linebacker that kind of
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  Speaker 3: runs the show. They got a really good solid core
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  Speaker 3: of defensive linemen, especially the bigs in the middle. philosophically, guys,
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  Speaker 3: in my time of being a coordinator for 20 whatever
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  Speaker 3: years I did it, when we had really good defenses,
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  Speaker 3: we were really solid, thick, and big in the middle
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  Speaker 3: of the defense. And if you go to any sport,
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  Speaker 3: you can go to baseball, you can go to basketball,
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  Speaker 3: you can go to football. If you're big, thick, and
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  Speaker 3: strong in the middle of your defense, then you've got
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  Speaker 3: a chance to be good. They have a chance to
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  Speaker 3: be as good on defense or better than regardless of
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  Speaker 3: how many people they lost. And then it's all going
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  Speaker 3: to come down to John Mateer and what this offense
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  Speaker 3: looks like. They totally upgraded their receiving core. They kept
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  Speaker 3: Isaiah Satania. And they got a defense that gives the
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  Speaker 3: offense flexibility and some leeway to struggle some, right? But
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  Speaker 3: I think if the offense is more explosive, John Mateer
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  Speaker 3: is more like he was in the first third of
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  Speaker 3: the season before he got hurt than I think you're
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  Speaker 3: going to see a really, really dangerous Oklahoma team, but
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  Speaker 3: Brent Venables is the best in the business.
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  Speaker 1: When you throw in Byron Brown's tape, when you watch him,
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  Speaker 1: what do you see?
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  Speaker 3: I see a very athletic, good decision-maker, He can make
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  Speaker 3: things happen off schedule, meaning when he's in trouble, he
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  Speaker 3: can get out of trouble and he's a big body.
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  Speaker 3: And the question that everybody asks is, can he take
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  Speaker 3: what he did at South Florida and reproduce that in
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  Speaker 3: this league? And I kind of have to chuckle at
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  Speaker 3: that because my experience over the time, guys, I've had
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  Speaker 3: seven first round quarterbacks on my teams over the years.
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  Speaker 3: And what you see is, guys that just have the
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  Speaker 3: it factor. And he has that. So you say, can
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  Speaker 3: he make that translate into the SEC? Well, I think
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  Speaker 3: he can. Could Trinidad Chambliss, could he do it? He
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  Speaker 3: was at D2. He's a guy. He's a real guy.
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  Speaker 3: He has the it factor. So I think Byron can
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  Speaker 3: do that. He brought some really good receivers over with him.
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  Speaker 3: Keyshawn Singleton, I think he brought with him and a
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  Speaker 3: couple other guys offensively that I think are going to
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  Speaker 3: be impactful. I love Jeremiah Cobb in the running game there, guys.
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  Speaker 3: I think this can be a dangerous offense. It may
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  Speaker 3: take him a while to gel and get some continuity there,
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  Speaker 3: but I like what I see. I think he's confident
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  Speaker 3: if he'll protect the football, which I have every reason
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  Speaker 3: to believe he will, then I think they've got a
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  Speaker 3: chance to be productive on offense. Look, you guys know
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  Speaker 3: at Auburn, all they want is some hope. Just give
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  Speaker 3: them some hope on offense, and I think you know,
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  Speaker 3: in the Baylor game, we'll see. But I think that
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  Speaker 3: Byron Brown, the way Alex runs the offense, the tempo,
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  Speaker 3: the running the football, I think Auburn people have hope
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  Speaker 3: after the first game.
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  Speaker 2: One of the guys that, that frankly left the program
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  Speaker 2: for several reasons, but one of those is because the
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  Speaker 2: production just wasn't there in that offense was Cam Coleman.
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  Speaker 2: And now he is at Texas and you marry him
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  Speaker 2: with Arch Manning. And this seems like a marriage made
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  Speaker 2: in football heaven coach. What, what, What do you expect
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  Speaker 2: to see from Cam Coleman in this Texas offense?
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  Speaker 3: I think you're going to watch him have a breakout year,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm going to tell you why. It's not just
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  Speaker 3: about Cam Coleman. I think it's well documented how talented
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  Speaker 3: the young man is. Some of the catches he made
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  Speaker 3: last year in what you could pretty much consider a
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  Speaker 3: pretty abysmal offense, there were some catches that were head scratchers.
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  Speaker 3: You're going, wow, did that guy just make that catch?
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  Speaker 3: The great advantage that he has is not only that
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  Speaker 3: he has Arch Manning, but I think what Sark did
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  Speaker 3: is he did one of the best jobs in the
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  Speaker 3: offseason of player procurement. He brought in and addressed the
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  Speaker 3: weaknesses of his football team. They could not run the football.
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  Speaker 3: They brought in two basically thousand-yard rushers that can share
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  Speaker 3: the load. They brought in other wide receivers to be
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  Speaker 3: able to go along with the ones they had on
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  Speaker 3: their existing roster. where you can't say I'm just going
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  Speaker 3: to double Cam Coleman the whole time. There's other really
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  Speaker 3: good guys out there as well in those skill positions.
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  Speaker 3: So you've got a Heisman worthy, at least discussion-wise, quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: You've got a running game now that should be taken
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  Speaker 3: to the next level because he addressed the problem. And
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  Speaker 3: you've got more than one guy out there to go
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  Speaker 3: along with Cam. So I think you're going to see
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  Speaker 3: a big year. I think they're going to get him
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  Speaker 3: the football, and I think he's going to probably show
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  Speaker 3: you more of who he is as a player than
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  Speaker 3: he ever had the opportunity to do at Auburn.
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  Speaker 1: In your time at Auburn, you opened up with La Tech,
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  Speaker 1: Arkansas State in the national championship year, Utah State, and
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  Speaker 1: in the last year, Clemson in the game. really probably
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  Speaker 1: should have won there to start off at Jordan-Hare Stadium.
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  Speaker 1: How would you like to do it? If you were
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  Speaker 1: a coach right now, would you like to have an
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  Speaker 1: FCS or a Group 6 game, or would you like
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  Speaker 1: to start out like Clemson and LSU are starting out?
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  Speaker 3: Jim, that depends on the team I have, to be
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  Speaker 3: honest with you. I could give you coach speak and go,
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  Speaker 3: we want to go out there and we want to
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  Speaker 3: play the best game we can in the opening series. No,
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  Speaker 3: that's not what I want to do. I want to
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  Speaker 3: do it based on my team. If I have an
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  Speaker 3: older team, I have a veteran quarterback. We called it AAA. Anyone, anytime, anywhere,
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  Speaker 3: bring it on. I love it. The bigger, the better.
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  Speaker 3: You got me a situation where my quarterback position is
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  Speaker 3: a little bit in question. My offensive line is in
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  Speaker 3: question because we lost four out of the five guys.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever those situations are. When I was a head coach
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  Speaker 3: at Iowa State and Auburn, we ranged anywhere from 100
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  Speaker 3: to zero on that. So if you're asking me, look,
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  Speaker 3: the bottom line is when you're a head coach, it's
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  Speaker 3: all about how many games you win or you get fired.
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  Speaker 3: It's that simple, right? So I want a game that
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  Speaker 3: I can win, and I don't want to open up
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  Speaker 3: with somebody that I know has a veteran squad that's
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  Speaker 3: extremely talented, and I don't have that. Why would I
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  Speaker 3: want to do that? So that we can run out
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  Speaker 3: in front of 90,000 people? I want to win. So
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  Speaker 3: scheduling matters. I think that it depends on what type
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  Speaker 3: of team you have. Every coach would love to open
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  Speaker 3: up in a game like LSU and Clemson if you
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  Speaker 3: have a team that you think right now is worthy
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  Speaker 3: of that billing. And I've seen some opening games that
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  Speaker 3: were big like that, and you got blowouts, and now
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  Speaker 3: all of a sudden you're on your heels for the
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  Speaker 3: next month trying to figure out what happened. So To me,
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  Speaker 3: it could go either way, but for me, it's all
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  Speaker 3: based on what kind of team I have coming back.
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  Speaker 2: All right, before you go, Coach, Jim staying home tonight,
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  Speaker 2: I'm staying home tonight, but Lance, Lance is considering driving
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  Speaker 2: to Atlanta for Georgia Tech Colorado because he's never been
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  Speaker 2: to Bobby Dodd Stadium.
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  Speaker 4: Never been.
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  Speaker 2: Never been. I believe you coached there with North Carolina,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken. Is it worth the trip? Is
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  Speaker 2: that a college stadium you're like, Lance, take an advantage
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  Speaker 2: Thursday night, go to see Bobby Dodd?
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  Speaker 3: Lance, I'm going to highly recommend it. I've played in
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  Speaker 3: that stadium probably four times. We played in it when
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  Speaker 3: I was at Auburn. It's different than most of the
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  Speaker 3: SEC venues, just from size alone. But I would highly
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  Speaker 3: recommend it. I would take the drive. I would go
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  Speaker 3: over there. I'd embrace it. It's going to be a
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  Speaker 3: great night. It's Colorado. They're going to have Dion. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it'll be a thing of beauty, and I would do it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's going to be a fun weekend in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 4: We've got Baylor and Auburn over there. Your former quarterback
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  Speaker 4: is one of the captains in Cam Newton. When's the
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  Speaker 4: last time you talked to Cam?
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  Speaker 3: We– Texted back and forth right before they retired his jersey,
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  Speaker 3: which was a few months ago. But we yeah, we
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  Speaker 3: texted back and forth, me and him and his family
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  Speaker 3: and mom and dad and everybody. But it's been a
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  Speaker 3: while since I've actually spoke to him. He's he's got
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: a lot. He's got a lot of things going on,
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: and so do I. But, yeah, what a great opening
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: weekend for Auburn. This one ought to be fun, and
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Cam will be right in the middle of it getting
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: them all going for sure.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I wish he'd gift you one of his hats. I'd
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: love to see you in one of Cam's hats. On
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: the SEC Network set.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: You think I'd look okay on that game? Yeah, man.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: You and Alyssa Lange, either one of you could pull
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: it off, I believe.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: This Wednesday, me and Alyssa are on this upcoming Wednesday.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: I might have to see if Cam can shoot me
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: one of those. And just for you guys, I'll put
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: it on there. And I'll take the heat for all
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: the laughs I get. But anyway, that's a good suggestion.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: So is it even a question if I, because you
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: were on that staff with Vince Young winning that national
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: championship in 2005. If if I was like, you have
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: one of these quarterbacks in their prime in a big
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: college game, Vince Young or Cam Newton, I would assume
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: you would go, Cam, he won you a ring. I
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: guess both technically did, but is it pretty close?
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Lance, that is a phenomenal question. Yes, it is very close.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: It is very close. I'm going to tell you what,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: those two guys are two of the most competitive human
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: beings I've ever been around in my life. And look,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: There's there's guys that act like they want the ball
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: in their hand with the game on the line. These
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: dudes want to be the last one to touch the
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: ball to win or lose the game, period. That's how
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: competitive they are. They don't have it. They're pissed. And but,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: you know, it's it's so close. What Vince did in
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: that game when I was a defensive coordinator at Texas
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: to take that game over. I've never seen anything like it.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: But then I watched Cam take game after game after
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: game after game over. And you've got to remember, back
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: then in the Big 12, the competition wasn't like what
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Cam had to go through in 2010. I mean, you
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: look at that schedule. You know, we won games by
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: three points, five points, kick a field goal, walk off.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, all those things. Our games are all close.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: And Cam was the reason. Look at the Alabama game
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: in Tuscaloosa. Cam was the reason we were able to
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: come back in those games. In the Big 12, they
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: were good, but guys, we're playing Colorado in the Big
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: 12 championship, and there's 10 minutes left in the third quarter,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: and we're winning 70-3. Yeah.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: It's a little different. In the championship game. In the
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: championship game. And Joel Klatt's looking through his ear hole. Yeah,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Joel Klatt doesn't even know which way he's up.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Coach, we appreciate the time. It is always good to
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: see you and catch up with you. And I know
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: you're excited like us that we kick it off for
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: real tonight. So enjoy it. And we look forward to
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: doing this again soon, hopefully.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Gentlemen, thank you for having me on. You guys have
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: a blessed day.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you too, Coach. Good to see you. Thank you.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: That is Gene Chizik, former Auburn head coach, now on
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: the SEC Network. You'll see him all weekend long.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: If you ever get a chance to hear him speak
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: at a banquet or something, he's really good. And he
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: tells a funny story. The only way they got Cam is–
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: He sent one.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Of his coaches. Cecil, right?
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: No, he sent one of his coaches to Blinn Junior
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: College to recruit a receiver. They needed a receiver. And
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: they came back, and they're like, the receiver's a no-go,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: but I think we would want the quarterback. And they
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: looked at the numbers, and he was like, I know
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: he's at Florida, but I don't think I want the quarterback. Well,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: he's driving back to Atlanta. Let's get him on campus
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: for a visit. And Chizik tells the story. He's like, OK,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: he can come by, stop by the office, but make
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: sure he knows we're not offering him. We're not offering him.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: And he says the coach walks in with Cam and
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: he stands up. And after he stands up, he's still
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: looking up at Cam and he's like. Hey, Cam, nice
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: to meet you. I'm Gene Chizzi. I want to offer
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: you a scholarship.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: You're offered.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: You're offered.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: And you run a 4.5? That's funny because that's twice
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: that happened to Auburn. If you remember the way they
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: got Rudy Johnson, was it Daniel Cobb? They were there
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: looking at a quarterback. A quarterback at Auburn. God, I
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: cannot remember the name of the team. It was in Kansas. Hutchinson.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Hutchinson may be in Kansas. But they're there looking at
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: the quarterback, and somebody's like, what Rudy Johnson kid? He
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: runs up and down the field.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: It was one of those bye weekends, I think, and
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: he was sending all the guys out, and somebody was
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: out at junior college at Blinn, and the guy's like,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: that receiver, no, he's not.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Going to be there. But that quarterback's pretty good.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: And he's like, make sure he knows it's not an offer.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: It's not an offer. I will always say this about
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Urban Meyer. It is crazy that he had it set
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: up to go from Tim Tebow to Cam Newton. Think
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: about that. If it had worked out for Urban Meyer
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: to go from Tim Tebow to Cam Newton, I cannot
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: think of a better quarterback succession in the history of
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: college football. Not even close. If you had those two.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: You go look at that documentary on the Gators during
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Urban Meyer and the Tebow years, how it ends. And
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: he talks openly, Urban does, about 2006. We won the
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: national championship. And he said afterwards, he's like, at that point,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I said to myself, man, that's it. Anything else is
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: gravy now. And he got into preparing for the next year,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: and he realized, oh, no, it's just the opposite now.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Nothing else is gravy. That's the expectation now.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: We've got to win it every time now. And he's
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: just like Saban when Saban won it in 2009. We
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: won it in 2008, and I'm not even celebrating. I'm
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: in the locker room texting and calling recruits, and I'm
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: already working, and I'm having zero fun, and everybody's celebrating.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: And then he talked about the devastation of losing Alabama
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: in 2009 and how he mentally had a mental breakdown.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: You know, not mental, but a physical breakdown after that.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: And that's how he ended up leaving Florida.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Headaches.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I think he said mixing alcohol and Ambien.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Ambien.
• 22:45
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• 22:46
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  Speaker 1: plus for their basketball roster. Now, you're talking about 11,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: 12 players. Really, only seven or eight that play.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, $ 20 million is pretty significant, it sounds like. I mean,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: you split that. Just on average over your seven best players,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: and you're right at 3 million, just short of 3 million.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: When Ohio State won the national championship in football, we
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: were going crazy about the $ 30 million roster in football.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: And now it says 20 million plus for North Carolina basketball.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: DeBonson was 5 million to BYU, right? Wasn't that the report? Yeah,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: that was the report.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, or six. Yeah, five or six. And then Yaxel
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Lindenberg hinted that his was– 10 million, I think he
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: hinted at, or eight to 10 million. Yeah, but that,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: The direction we're heading, can you see in back-to-college football,
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: a guy that instead of going in the draft as
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: a junior, university comes out, hey, we'll give you $ 10
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: million to stay an extra year.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, did that happen with Dante Moore at Oregon?
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was going to be a first-round draft pick.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: It had to be something.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we've talked about it. You know, there was,
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: I still think Mendoza goes number one overall, but there
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: was conversation that Vegas maybe would have taken Dante Moore
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: number one overall. I don't know how, if that's the fact,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: I don't know how you turn that money down.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: By the way, Fernando Mendoza, yesterday the Raiders made Kirk
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Cousins the starter. Fernando Mendoza becomes the first quarterback taken
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: number one overall, not to start week one since Baker
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Mayfield with Cleveland.
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• 25:33
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• 25:33
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• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Cam Ward, Caleb Williams, Bryce Young, Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow,
• 25:43
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• 25:45
  Speaker 4: Outside of Kyler, all those quarterbacks are pretty good. I
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: think Kyler's going to be better this year.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: I was prepared to say, hey, good news for him.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I'd take Baker Mayfield's career, but now she listed those guys.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Probably would take Caleb Williams' eventual career over Baker. Certainly
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: would Joe Burrows. Bryce Young, to be determined.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence hasn't been.
• 26:03
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• 26:06
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• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Hey, while we're talking a little NFL here, we started
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: yesterday with the NFC South. Let's do the AFC North.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: NFC North today. AFC North for you guys.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Pick.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Give me the basement first, and then tell me who
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: the winner is.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: I think the basement is Cleveland based on quarterback situation
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: right now, whether it's Deshaun or Shador long-term. I think
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: the deck is stacked against Todd Munkin. You lose your
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: best player, the best player in the NFL. I think
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Jared Verst is going to be really, really good in Cleveland,
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: but you lose Myles Garrett. I would start with Cleveland.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: Pittsburgh's not getting any younger. it looks like they've passed
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: their window. Obviously with Aaron Rodgers, the defense is getting
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: a little bit older. So it's a two-team race for me.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: It's either Baltimore or Cincinnati. I feel like Baltimore, much
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: more consistent, obviously franchise. Lamar Jackson, something to prove coming
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: off that down year last year with the injury. And
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Joe Burrow, you never know if you're going to get
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: him for a full 17. So Baltimore is the favorite
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: in this division. Cincinnati, there's a huge expectation. Their win
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: total right now is 10.5. So a lot of people
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: believe that, you know, they're going to be double digits
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: and back to the postseason. But even though it's a
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: rookie head coach, the offense wasn't great last year. I'm
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: going to stick with Baltimore.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Cleveland in the basement for me. I am going to
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: go with the only team that returns both head coach
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: and starting quarterback, and that's Cincinnati. Remarkably in that division,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: every team's either got a new starter or a new
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: head coach, or in Cleveland's case, technically both, because Deshaun
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Watson hasn't started in so long.
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: So I am going to take Cincinnati to win this division,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: but Cleveland to finish in the basement.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati's my pick as well. Open up with my Buccaneers,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: by the way, with a home game for Cincinnati. Healthy
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year. They'll be a nasty
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: out on week one. Cincinnati, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cleveland for me
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: I think Burrow has a big year. I mean, I
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: drafted him as my fantasy quarterback. Then I got an
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: email that I got a D on my draft. Like
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: everybody else in my league is getting like A's and B's.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah gave you a D?
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, how did I get a D? I've
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: never done fantasy before, so I probably will suck at this.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, D can end up being champions.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: I go tight and heavy. Just like the Rams run
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: their offense.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Interesting, yeah.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Tied in heavy.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that 13-person.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Are you able to?
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: 13-person, yeah. It's tied in.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: So you start one. I didn't even realize the whole format.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: We start two quarterbacks.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: So you draft it without knowing the format.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Two receivers.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: That's how you get a D.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: One tied in, two flex, a kicker, and a defense.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: But what I'm going to do is I'm going to
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: start one tight end, and both tight ends are going
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: to be my flex guys.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: So you're going to flex two tight ends. Tight end
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: score touchdowns is to your point.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: In the red zone.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Colston Loveland, Harold Fanning Jr., and Tyler Warren. I
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: love my tight ends.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: It's unique that you're doing a traditional fantasy league.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. Never done one. You're not going to
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: be the guy, though, and it's my pet peeve. You're
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: not going to come in on Monday morning telling me
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: what you need on Monday night football.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: No, I promise you I will not do that. I
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: will tell you, I'm going to group text with people
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: I don't know. There's only two guys in this league
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: that I know. It's numbers, area coach from all over
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: the country, and they're all dogging my ass out, not
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: even knowing me. because i was asking about the free
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: age or the uh the waiver wire and they're like
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: you can have max transitions with that draft your transactions
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: with that draft you just had.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Oh so they're like you're so bad we'll let you
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: do whatever you want oh wow there'll be a if
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: he wins this thing there'll be a victory lap i could.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Probably yeah yeah but he he could uh he could
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: upset him as well too because one thing that i've
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: learned with fantasy football uh draft day is important but
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: You can battle back from what is considered to be.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: A bad draft.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, and who really knows?
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Nobody.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, Joe Burrow, again, could end up being the
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: MVP this year.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: He could be, yeah.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: NFC North, really quick.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: This is the most competitive division. It's a tough one.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: For me, I'll start since I went last last time.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: For me, it's the Lions. Then I'm going to go Bears, Packers, Vikings.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I'm worried about the Packers' health. I'm right out of
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: the gate. Josh Jacobs on the commissioner's list. Parsons not
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: available maybe week one. So I'm going to put the
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Packers third, but anybody top to.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Bottom good in this division. I agree. The worst team
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: in this division is going to be a really good team,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: I think. I think the biggest wild card in this division, Lance,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: you've mentioned it a couple times, is what does Kyler
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Murray look like in Kevin O'Connell's offense? Most quarterbacks look
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: great in that offense. Kyler Murray has not had a
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: great career by any stretch of the imagination. Is this
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: a reset for him? If so, Minnesota can certainly win this.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: If I were taking my hard-earned Benjamins, to Hard Rock Bets,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I would go with the Chicago Bears to win this division.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: And I would actually take the Packers to finish in
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: the basement of this division.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: OK, so the Bears win the division by a game
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: and a half based on the tie the Packers had
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: last year. The Bears pulled a lot of games out
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: of their ass. Now, I do think they could be
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: better in year two under Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: this direction he's going in. And the record could actually
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: be worse because it's such a competitive division. I could
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: see them easily 10 and 7. There's a huge expectation
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: for Detroit And I believe Detroit is going to win
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: the North. I mean, that win total is 10.5 right now.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: But Aiden Hutchinson staying healthy is, you know, he's not
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow-like yet on the entry, but him being out
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: there for 16, 17 games is very important.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the back end of their defense, because Hutchinson was out,
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: I think that really affected them. And so, you know,
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: they lost a lot of high-scoring games last year. I
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: do think Minnesota is going to be much improved, but
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: much improved could be a game. I mean, I think
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of 9-8, 10-7 in this division. So
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: it's hard to put somebody in the basement. I guess
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: I would go Minnesota, but I could see any of
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: these teams in the basement. But I do think Detroit
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: is going to ultimately win the NFC North again.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: According to The Athletic, Minnesota, the ninth worst quarterback situation
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. Browns first, Jets, Cardinals, Dolphins, Falcons, fifth
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: worst quarterback room, Saints, Colts, Titans, Vikings, and Panthers second.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: As the 10 worst quarterback rooms.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: In the NFL.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: But as you move up, I don't know if you
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: have the whole thing.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: They just do the 10 worst.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: But, like, that's not bad. If you get to Bryce Young,
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: a guy that started a home playoff game last year,
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: almost won it. It wasn't Bryce's fault that they didn't
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: win that game. I just think all the quarterback rooms
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: in front of the bottom 10 are pretty damn good
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: quarterback rooms.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Cut 19, Tyler, if you can. By the way, yesterday, yesterday,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: the 49ers and the Rams started flying.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: To their home opener.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: You mentioned Miami on that.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Miami was the fourth worst. So they're still in
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: the air? They started flying. You make it sound like
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: this is a long flight.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's, what is it, 15, 17 hours?
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: From there, I think it's 15.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, 15, 17 hours. I don't know if this changes
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: the way you play the game or not, but defensive
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: end Keon White of the 49ers got asked yesterday before
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: they went out to the airport, his plan is, For
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: the flight to Australia, this is from the Bay Area
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: sports leader, NBC Bay Area.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: What's your plan for the flight to get rest and
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: not feel crappy when you're in Australia?
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: I'm about to take like, I don't know if you
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: can OD on melatonin, but I'm going to try. Take
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: like five melatonin, go to sleep on the plane. As
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: soon as I wake up, I'm taking five more and
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: just keep rolling like that.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: All right, can you OD on melatonin? Yeah, I mean,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: he's a melatonin 5, 5 more.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: You're not supposed to take too much.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, I would go heavy indica. I'd probably take
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: 20 milligrams.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: You can't OD on that, right?
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: No, you cannot. You cannot? And drink some heavy, heavy cab,
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: and then just kind of doze off.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, you can take too much melatonin, but an overdose
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: is rarely... Life-threatening for adults.
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: Rarely.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Rarely.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, hopefully he wakes up by the game.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: When do they play? Next Thursday?
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: Next Thursday, a week from tonight.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: A week from tonight.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: And I am so nervous about that game. I'll go
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: on to tell you, I'm probably going to have... Wait
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: a minute, that's not the Wednesday game?
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: No, Wednesday is the game in.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Seattle and New England.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: New England-Seattle.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Why did I think the Australia game was the Thursday?
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: No.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Wednesday night starts the season. Thursday's the Australia game.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: By the way, 11 of the next 12 days we
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: have football.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: That's right, 11 of the next 12. But you also
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: fly over the international date line, right?
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Don't confuse me. I think it's a Friday morning game.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: It is in Australia.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: In Australia.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: In Melbourne. They had to play it Friday morning, so
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: it could be Friday night.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: But it is a 735 kick right here on Netflix.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: But I think we forget all those.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: You may sound like we're on Netflix right now. Right
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: here on Netflix.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: All those injuries last year for Kyle Shanahan, they still
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: won 12 games. They still won a playoff game against
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: the Eagles. They still beat the Rams in SoFi. They
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: always beat the Rams in SoFi. Sans the 2021 playoffs.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: NFC Championship game. I just think this is going to
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: be a battle. I think people are already giving the
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: Rams to Lombardi, and I could see them easily start 0-1.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: And if you start 0-1 with the schedule coming up, damn.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: NFL starts Wednesday, and then Wednesday, Thursday. Is there a
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Friday game the opening week?
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: In the NFL, no. No, okay.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: So Wednesday, Thursday, Sunday, Monday to get the NFL season
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: started next week. Today's a big day. Greg Sankey actually
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: in person in Baton Rouge in the NFL players' back-to-college
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: case in their temporary restraining order. I told you yesterday
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I don't think this will be a big deal by
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: the time we get to the LSU kick on Saturday.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I think the SEC will have this buttoned up and
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: LSU put in their place. But Sankey in person today
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: in Baton Rouge. We'll talk about what's going on with
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: the court, what are some options for the NFL. We'll
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: also talk about.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Everything else going on in college football with Clay Travis.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: He joins us on the other side. TNR presented by
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• 36:58
  Speaker 1: at pictures outside the courthouse in Baton Rouge there. Pete
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Thamel showing us the scene in Baton Rouge as the
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: LSU SEC showdown continues. Court hearing starts at the top
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: of the hour here. So coming up at 11 central
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Baton Rouge time.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: I did think it was interesting that the attorney general
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: of the state of Georgia said, wrote the open letter
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: to Greg Sankey. Chris Carr. Chris Carr, thank you. I
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: would not have pulled that one. Wrote the letter to
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Greg Sankey, basically telling him, please admonish LSU if they
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: move forward with this. Suspend them or expel them. Suspend them,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: expel them, whatever you have to do. Use your power
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: to punish LSU if they go through with this. I mean,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: that's an attorney general of a state that has an
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: SEC team.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: A lot like Big 12 vibes that was going on
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: around the source with the attorney generals getting involved. It'll
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: be interesting. By the way, no punishment on Cincinnati. The
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Sorsby case was deemed by the NCAA a level three violation,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: isolated and limited. So no punishment for Cincinnati. We'll talk
• 37:57
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• 37:59
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• 38:07
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• 39:02
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• 39:04
  Speaker 2: What timing. What is up, Clay? How are you? I object.
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: I am sending out my story on the LSU versus
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: SEC drama legitimately as we speak.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Let me make sure I don't have any typos.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, sportandstate.com is where you will find that. Sportandstate.com where
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: you find our show. Um, that's right.
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: Um, so I just hit, um, just hit it, uh, send, uh,
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: so it's up, I believe on the main page at
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: sport and state.com. So fire away. I imagine that is, uh,
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: I know it's crazy. that we have college football week
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: one here and we all wait for the offseason with
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: bated breath to see what's going to happen with our
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: favorite teams and, frankly, our favorite sport. And then the
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: biggest story on Thursday by far, I think, honestly, is
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: Greg Sankey is potentially going to be in a witness
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: chair and being cross-examined by LSU attorneys to try to
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: get players eligible for the biggest game, I think it's
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: fair to say, of the weekend. uh, LSU hosting Clemson
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: death battle of death valleys. Um, you know, I, I just, I,
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: there's so many angles here, uh, that I'm utterly fascinated.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: And doesn't it feel like though that the sec has
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: already won this? Do you think, do you think LSU
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: and the people that want to play NFL players have
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: a fighting chance or is, or is this thing already over?
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: Well, unless there's something that's happened in the last hour
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: i mean the guys are eligible right now.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Oh i know it just doesn't feel like that's going
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: to be the way the case ends it feels like
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: yeah i would be surprised if these guys play it
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: just doesn't seem like it's going to happen.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: But this is a louisiana judge that's up for re-election
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: we know how this hearing's going today don't we i.
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: Look i mean so here is where i will dive
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: in i will be dispassionate lawyer clay giving both sides
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: of the argument, and then you can ask me what
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: I personally think. Let's start with LSU. Pretend that I
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: am representing LSU. You have a player that is told
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: by the NCAA that he does not have the ability
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: to play for a fifth year. We're just going to
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: use Daquan Wright, even though there are many players that
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: are involved, 15, 16, whatever the math is, in this
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: particular lawsuit. Let's just use Daquan Wright because it's easier
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: sometimes to focus on an individual. You finish your senior
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: year at Ole Miss. You have a pretty good year,
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: five touchdowns. I think it was around 600 yards receiving,
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: 39 catches-ish. I think I got that math relatively correct.
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: You do not believe that you're going to be given
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: an extra year to play college football. So you decide,
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: perhaps not as your chosen choice, to make yourself eligible
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: for the NFL draft. You aren't drafted. You go into
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: NFL training camps. It's clear that you don't have what
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: it takes to make at least the Cleveland Browns. A
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: judge then comes out with a ruling after all this
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: has taken place and says, actually, you were eligible. The
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: NCAA got it wrong. LSU offers you probably several hundred
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: thousand dollars to come back to college football to play
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: for your old coach, Lane Kiffin, on a team that
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: could contend for a national championship. You otherwise are not
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: going to make very much money playing football, probably. Would
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: you take the several hundred thousand dollars? The courts say
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: you are eligible, notwithstanding your particularly circuitous path back to
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: college athletics. And so that is the LSU argument. The
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: NCAA has said he's eligible. How does the SEC now
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: invalidate NCAA rules when the SEC is subject to NCAA guidance?
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: this guy is eligible right now. We don't believe that
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: you should basically strip away his eligibility citing SEC rules. Judge,
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: I forgot his last name, but Baton Rouge area judge,
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: that is the LSU argument. SEC argument is more existential,
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: I would say.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: It is this.
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: If you permit a players to leave college, pursue NFL riches,
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: go through NFL training camp, NFL preseason games, If they
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: don't make the team, then you come back. Why would
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: every junior in college football not declare for the NFL
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: knowing that if you make the team, boom, you're going
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: to make a lot of money? If you don't, you
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: come back to college football and you make a lot
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: of money there instead. In other words, there is no
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: distinction between college and pro anymore. Effectively, we are then
• 43:37
  Speaker 6: saying that the NFL and college football are competing with
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: players directly. and that you can go from one to
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: the other without any hindrance or restriction. If this Daquan
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: Wright example follows through, then many other players will follow
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: as well. The exception then makes the rule, and you
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: end up in a situation where basically college football as
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: we know it no longer exists. And by the way,
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: this ruling would also apply to college basketball. Now, I
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: might also point out, as you guys well remember, but
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: others might not, we've already seen this in basketball with
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: Charles Bediako.