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- 0:03It's Tuesday night. You know what that means. It's time for Ignition with
- 0:07aw fan Hub. This is Kelson. I'm here with Sleazy the Professional and
- 0:13Renee and we're going to talk about headlines coming out of the weekend and a
- 0:19short dy to my preview. We don't want to talk about it too much,
- 0:23I guess. But before I get into anything, I want to express
- 0:28my concern and hopes that CJ Perry is feeling better. Some of you probably
- 0:35KNOWJ had a infection on her hand, on her finger, and it spread
- 0:44up to her arms. She was in the emergency room for over fifty hours
- 0:48and went into surgery, successful surgery. Miro, her husband did post a
- 0:54post on Instagram where he took her you know romantic gifts, you know,
- 1:00pizza and soda. That's romantic to me because I'm Italian and I like food
- 1:03and drink. But anyway, I hopefully CJ is feeling better. And we
- 1:11missed you on Collision last week, but understandably and hopefully you'll get back to
- 1:19work as soon as you feel better. But take care of yourself anyway,
- 1:23Let's move on to Ignition, and you know what the first thing I want
- 1:26to talk about is the improvements that we've been seeing in the aw women's division.
- 1:34The ratings for the segments came out for Collision. Now, remember on
- 1:41Collision we had the Abdon match, which of course had Julia Hart at sky
- 1:48Blue for me a team and thunder Rosa coming off the Spanish announcing desk to
- 1:57what I guess, basically save Abadon from the newly formed team of Julia Hart
- 2:02and sky Blue. And then we also had the street fight between Chris Statlander
- 2:09and Willem Nightingale against Mercedes Martinez and Diamante. Those two women's segments on Collision
- 2:21were the two highest rated segments on the entire show as far as actual TV
- 2:29ratings go. So hey, naysayers, if you think the women don't pull
- 2:35in ratings, if you do good story, anything can pull in ratings.
- 2:40Anything, and I'm not saying just women. You could put two turtles in
- 2:45their shell just spinning on their backs. If it's a good story behind it,
- 2:49somebody's going to watch it. Not on wrestling, but somebody's going to
- 2:53watch it. Sleazy. What are your thoughts on the women's division? I
- 2:58mean, the ratings are there, how have they improved? Yes? Because
- 3:05as you can see the ratings have certainly improved, and that's due to the
- 3:10matter of fact that now TK is like, oh wait a minute, I
- 3:15should maybe tell stories instead of making this last minute. And that's the thing
- 3:21that's the most important right here, especially with thunder Rosa's recent comeback story and
- 3:27how she managed to do it, and now that the ratings are there,
- 3:31it seems like we're finally getting the improvements that we need now. Of course,
- 3:37in my personal opinion, that should be happening to certain other wrestlers,
- 3:40but of course then we'd be here for twenty four hours talking about them.
- 3:44So overall, I'd say the women's division is on the upswing. But well,
- 3:52Sleasie, let me ask you a question before you throw it over to
- 3:53the professional. So we saw the return to thunder Rosa. In your mind,
- 3:59is that a really big deal for aw Well, she certainly made it
- 4:04a big deal. Again, as I said last week, what was most
- 4:09important was what she did on Saturday, what she said and what she did,
- 4:15and what she's saying and what she's doing. It's working, especially with
- 4:20the raidings. Now the professional what is your professional opinion? Yeah, thanks,
- 4:28Leevy, I'm actually not surprised that the women are doing well. The
- 4:32reason Dan is we needed to have patients. There are a lot of women
- 4:38that were injured over the last year. So you had Abadon who just returned
- 4:41from injury, Red Velvet just returned from injury a few I think a few
- 4:46weeks ago. You had Chris stat Leonar who returned from injury earlier this year
- 4:49at double or nothing if I remember correctly. And now you got jad Hater.
- 4:55She's on the shelf so she won't be coming back until probably next summer.
- 4:59And then you also got Baker who was also injured, so you had
- 5:01a lot of injuries. You still do have a lot of injuries with the
- 5:04women's division. And then you also had Rio. I don't think she was
- 5:08injured, but she just hadn't been in the States for such a long time,
- 5:12so she returned a few weeks ago. So you didn't have a lot
- 5:15of depth with the women's division, and I think that was overlooked. And
- 5:20in traditional sports, depth is really really important. Yes, you have your
- 5:26superstars, you have your Lebron James, and you know other players, but
- 5:30if you don't have depth, those those bench pieces that can step up.
- 5:34When that started these arrests or in this case, when a wrestler goes down,
- 5:39it's going to suffer, and had suffered for a very very long time.
- 5:44But I was just waiting because I always thought that it was kind of
- 5:47funny that people thought that TK didn't care about women or women's wrestling when you
- 5:53have Roh doing a great job with Athena and Billy Starks and other women wrestlers
- 5:59that they're like right there even though they're not an ew So I was just
- 6:01being patient, just waiting, And again, I'm not surprised that they've done
- 6:06so well. You've had time to build stories, you've had time to get
- 6:11wrestles that were injured, and they were away for a long time back into
- 6:14the swing of things. So again I wasn't surprised. I'm very happy to
- 6:18see them do so well, and I look forward to what's going to come
- 6:21next with so many different storylines. Butther than that, I'll just throw it
- 6:27over to Renee for his thoughts. Yeah, I totally agree with you guys
- 6:30on on that for sure, But I was more rooding on Avagon coming back,
- 6:35you know, because she had that long absence, And it's funny because
- 6:41before coming on here and trying to set up for snight's podcast. Was watching
- 6:47an all dark match that she faced Rep. Delve Ball people, and and
- 6:55if I have it right, Abadan just face Rep delb And of course you
- 6:58know what happened is one her matches. I just because like I, uh
- 7:06so, just anyone can correct me on this one. Abadan was out on
- 7:11an entry. Yes, you was okay, so that deveryone explains that.
- 7:16Why a long acid? But I don't know. I just I just want
- 7:20to see her ab On more, you know, and because I want to
- 7:27see someone can actually beat the crap out her, you know, because there's
- 7:34there is, like they say, there's always an achilles heel of some person.
- 7:39So you know, one of the things that we talked about on the
- 7:43Sunday Morning Ship talk was uh Abodon specifically uh And I think it was me
- 7:48that brought up this point. It could have been somebody else. I don't
- 7:50remember if I'm stepping on Toesy or I apologize, But we did talk a
- 7:55little bit about Abadon and the difference in Abadon right now to what Tony Khan
- 8:01had done with other women. Now, Abadon is obviously getting a push to
- 8:05be the challenger for Julia Hart for the TBS Championship. Now, whether that's
- 8:11going to be at World's End or next week's Dynamite, we don't know.
- 8:16But here's the point is that in the past, Tony Khan has basically given
- 8:24his calendar specifically for Jade Cargill for the TBS Championship two or three wins and
- 8:31then the championship match, and then that woman was never seen or heard from
- 8:37again at all. Literally, it's like they dropped off the planet. But
- 8:43with Abdon, Abadon has already had more appearances than most of the challengers that
- 8:54Jade car Gill had. At addition to that, she's actually got story.
- 8:58And I apologize if I'm not using the correct pronouns, but it's too late
- 9:03in the evening for me to do things. But Abadon really has a story
- 9:09going behind their wrestling journey, where the women that challenge Jade Cargill did not.
- 9:16And I think that's very interesting. And I want to make one other
- 9:22point, and I want to throw it to everybody just briefly to see if
- 9:24you agree with me or not. Yes, Looking at the last several weeks,
- 9:31Tony Kahn is really building stories with his booking in the women's division.
- 9:37Let's not forget as the professional brought up, Riho is now back. We
- 9:43have Jamie Hayter, who is right around the corner. I've heard, and
- 9:48you can correct me if I'm wrong to the professional, but I've heard that
- 9:52she's almost ready and she'll be ready possibly for World's End to Bacon appearance.
- 10:00Britt Bagner is bent out, you know so. But here's the thing.
- 10:07Let's not forget that Mercedes Monet is out there and they've got to make well.
- 10:13Tony Khan is making an effort, in my opinion, he's making an
- 10:18effort with the women's division to entice Mercedes Monet and or Julia, whose contracted
- 10:24stardom is up in March, to come over. Now there's other women that
- 10:30are going to be coming too, don't forget. Beginning in a year,
- 10:33Yukosa Kazaki is back in aw permanently. She's moved to the United States,
- 10:39she's out of Japan. She is going to be She's got a new look,
- 10:46and it's a really good look for her too. I really like it.
- 10:50I can't wait to see if she changes a rear ring gear. But
- 10:52ultimately we're enticing some I think a lot of this has to do with enticing
- 10:58some of these free agents to come up. Lucie, what do you think
- 11:01about that that opinion? Well, first off, I do want to say
- 11:05that the storytelling has been very good. Hell, we could get an Undertaker
- 11:09versus Caine kind of rivalry going with Julia and Abadon, because Abada is just
- 11:13the monster and Julia Hart is well calculated, cold woman like the Undertaker.
- 11:18But actually good. Now, the fact of the matter is, though,
- 11:24if we're talking about only making it good for free agents, now, look,
- 11:30Julia Hart, that actually makes sense, you know. But for Mercedes
- 11:35Monett. Come on, why are we trying to entie super big superstars like
- 11:41this? Do you remember what happened with a certain rapped fist man. I'm
- 11:48not looking forward to a rap fist man's situation with Mercedes Monet, which is
- 11:52why I don't want her anywhere near the product, which is why DK needs
- 11:56to be telling story for the sake of telling a good store, which was
- 12:00the point of anyw in the first place, and not just be trying to
- 12:03entice every other old guy who's gonna get the massive pop as soon as they
- 12:07make an entrance. It doesn't matter okay, but I'm gonna throw it to
- 12:13the professional for their professional opinion. I totally agree with you about Mercedes Monnet.
- 12:20It's it's from the standpoint of what I don't like that's happening in the
- 12:26industry. From what I'm seeing is there are certain wrestlers who, I mean,
- 12:31every wrestlers are marked for themselves, but there are certain wrestlers that feel
- 12:35like WW it is the pinnacle of wrestling, not even just sports entertainment,
- 12:39So any other company is a step down. And I think that that's a
- 12:45weak mentality to have because you don't put a lot of you don't have a
- 12:50lot of faith in yourself to say I can be a simmerpiece of something that's
- 12:54new as opposed to being another spoke on the wheel. And the WW is
- 12:58comfortable for a lot of rest When I get it, I totally get it.
- 13:01You know, wrestling may just be it for them, so if they
- 13:05can't wrestle, how they're going to make some money. I get it.
- 13:07It's very comfortable, cool. But for other people that want to, I
- 13:11guess, think outside the box, take a chance on themselves, like John
- 13:16Moxley did, which I was super shocked that he would do. I like
- 13:20that, but I just feel like there are a lot of wrestlers who want
- 13:24to go to the W route, so now they're enticed to go back,
- 13:28like Mercedes Monet, and I think that's what she's gonna do. I don't
- 13:31think she's gonna come to AW. I have very little faith that she will.
- 13:35And even if she did, I would think that she would always have
- 13:39one foot out the door like some of these other wrestlers who grew up in
- 13:43a WW system and that's all they're really known. So I agree with you
- 13:46there, Sleazy. I don't want to see her in AW. I hope
- 13:50that Tony isn't doing this to entice her. I would rather than go after
- 13:54Julia, start to just go after wrestlers who've never been int Wwe work with
- 14:01them, create a new generation of people that really don't have to have success
- 14:05in wrestling by going to WW. So point and I'll go over to Renee
- 14:13here. Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna we'll makeet a total agreement on
- 14:18this one, because I don't want to reference the man with the ref fist,
- 14:22but I did. I pulled this up and I put it into the
- 14:26aa w's of van Hub, where it was posted on October twenty sixth,
- 14:31twenty twenty through about about the fistit Man. There's a point to this,
- 14:35Okay, guys, hear me out, and I did say that. Now
- 14:39I rate him as a four. If he comes back, there'll be a
- 14:43big surprise because some of the wrestlers are gonna welcome back to both arms.
- 14:48And anyways, if if your guys are interested in reading the whole thing,
- 14:52it's it's in the utter chat part of that. So now to get back
- 14:56to mont it's like, yeah, exactly, here's the concern I'm gonna have
- 15:01is like, it's the same thing that you guys brought it up. Yes,
- 15:05you might bring someone from from a different place, but are you gonna
- 15:09do you want DjVu all over again like the fisted Man? Or or should
- 15:15say the best in the world when he arrived at a w no, because
- 15:22one would one would tell me con thinks he learned his lessons first time around.
- 15:26And also, by the way, I don't think one name is going
- 15:30back to the to w. I just her hands or her hands are washed
- 15:35once she left a long time ago on some back down. That's what I'm
- 15:39thinking about that she probably just maybe she'll go a different promotion and continue on
- 15:45her wrestling career. And yeah, okay, so I just think I had
- 15:52to chunkle. I think it's funny that nobody wants to say, see,
- 15:54I'm balking, man. I love it. Anyway, We're gonna move on
- 15:58and for the next couple of segments, the professional you had a couple of
- 16:03ideas of things to talk about, So I'm going to throw it over to
- 16:06you. What is it that you'd like to talk about tonight? Yeah,
- 16:10thanks, Gulson. So one of the topics that I want to discuss is
- 16:14just the recent rumors of Warner Brothers Warner Brothers Discovery Sorry, having a meeting
- 16:19with WWE in regards to their television deal for RAW and I want to say,
- 16:25maybe it's for the next three to five years. And this is right
- 16:27at the same time that AW is trying to negotiate a new deal for their
- 16:33television properties, which include Dynamite, Collision, Rampage and also Ronk, so
- 16:37that that's four properties to one. And with this kind of rumor, you
- 16:44do see a lot of fans. I hate to say, both sides put
- 16:48WWE fans and the AW fans they're kind of leaning towards you know, this
- 16:53could be aw's departure from Warner Brothers Discovery. History repeats self almost with you
- 17:00know, Warner Brothers dropping WCW in two thousand and one, perhaps they drop
- 17:07a W. And the reason this could be a strong possibility is Warner Brothers
- 17:11Discovery is also trying to retain the NBA rights. So they've had the NBA
- 17:17on TNT for god knows how long, maybe since I believe the early nineties,
- 17:23but them losing the NBA that would be a big blow to Warner Brothers
- 17:29Discovery. So their main focus right now is trying to keep the NBA,
- 17:33especially keeping the NBA from returning perhaps too ironically NBC, which you know is
- 17:40under that peacock umbrella. However, if you do have Warner Brothers Discovery shoes
- 17:48and RAW over AW, what does that deed to the future of AW mean?
- 17:53As a promoter, you need those television rights. I mean, heck,
- 17:57every team in North from America right now, every professional sports team relies
- 18:03on that TV money, whether it's a regional contract or it's the national distribution
- 18:10of television revenue. That money is important. So if that money is taken
- 18:15away. Yes, Tony CON's a billionaire, but how can AW be profitable.
- 18:22They have a lot of expensive contracts with a lot of talent. So
- 18:26if they lose Warner Bros. Discovery that relationship to their competitor, what does
- 18:33that say for their future? I mean, yes, they can go to
- 18:36another television network, but will that television network give them even the same amount
- 18:41of money as maybe Warnbrough's Discovery would have given them. Now, we don't
- 18:45know what's gonna happen. This is just speculation in my opinion. I don't
- 18:49think AW is in trouble. I don't think they're even Warner Brough's Discovery.
- 18:55I think that would be foolish of Warner Brothers Discovery to do. And I'm
- 18:57not saying this is because I'm the b but I alluded to it as soon
- 19:02as I talked about it. AW has four properties that will need rights three
- 19:07more importantly roh. Yes, I know Tony's trying to loop the loop Roh
- 19:14in with AW, but they have four properties to one property in WW.
- 19:18Raw. Yes, WW has to day recognition and things like that, but
- 19:23for the amount of money that WW will probably acts Warner Brothers Discovery to pay
- 19:29for just one show. They can get a far better deal with AW and
- 19:36even if they lose the NBA, they can actually save money because I believe
- 19:41that they have a lot of debt, especially when they were Warner Brothers in
- 19:44Discovery merged, they have a lot of debts. So they lose the NBA,
- 19:48they can perhaps use that money to pay down some of that debt or
- 19:52whatever the case they be. But they get a better bargain and a better
- 19:56working relationship with AW as opposed to WW. You can't get those streaming rights.
- 20:03You're gonna have to advertise a competitor on your intelligience network in Peacock.
- 20:07With AW, they are receptive to any change that you at. Well,
- 20:12probably not any change because I believe Rampage is supposed to be a third hour
- 20:15of Dynamite, but they're receptive to changes. They have belts named after your
- 20:22network. It's a much better deal. That's why I don't think Warner Brothers
- 20:26Discovery is going to leave aw Hagen. But it's an interesting rumor. So
- 20:33I'd like to get everyone else's thoughts, So I'll start with you, Sleepy.
- 20:37Well, that certainly took a lot of time to explain, but thanks
- 20:41for explaining question. Yes, recent so so anyway, this is one of
- 20:48the many topics, major topics that just make me sad, that just make
- 20:53me depressed. But you know what, screw it, I'll talk about it
- 20:56anyway. At least from what I'm seeing it, it is stupid for Warner
- 21:00Brothers to try and back out with aw now, especially since you remember backing
- 21:06all in when they were like, oh, yeah, we're gonna get a
- 21:08billion dollar deal. Are they gonna back out of the billion dollar deal?
- 21:15That'd be kind of hypocritical and perhaps lying, cheating and stealing. Now,
- 21:19the fact of the matter is, I don't think that's going to happen.
- 21:22We're gonna keep on with Warner Bros. And stuff, And I don't care
- 21:26about any basketball riots well except maybe the Celtics, but other than that,
- 21:30I don't really care. But if it came down to it, here's what
- 21:33I would do if I was TK, I would be like, Okay,
- 21:37we gotta pretty much ax everything except for Dynamite and then make huge down cuts
- 21:42on all these wrestlers. I know it sounds really harsh, sounds really critical,
- 21:47but you know what you gotta do. What you gotta do to survive.
- 21:49And if that's what it takes for AW to survive, then damn it,
- 21:53that's what they gotta do to survive. AX Rampage, EX collision X
- 21:56ROH. Do whatever you need to do, use the act if you need
- 22:00to in order to survived, because I just don't want to watch AWA television
- 22:03because guess what if AW has nowhere to go, we as a fan hub
- 22:07are kind of screwed. So anyway, I'm going to pass down to her
- 22:11name. What do you think, Renae? Yeah, it's you're playing with
- 22:15fire, guys, it's what comes to like a professional. I agree with
- 22:21you one hundred percent too. It's like, look, I don't know how
- 22:23long the NBA isnt World, but yeah, that's a big property that they
- 22:29have in order to cover their bases, you know, for programming lines.
- 22:33Don't forget that they have the NHL on TNT as well two that they didn't
- 22:37have to consider. You know, I don't know how long that deal is
- 22:41for that, but uh yeah, so if you take out AW programming,
- 22:48it's like what is left to do. It's like like in terms of you
- 22:53know what I mean in terms of programming and because the facts the fact that,
- 22:56like, think about this, do you really think Fox is going to
- 23:02take a W programming like it's bad? It's crazy enough that that, uh,
- 23:07the other brand is going to consider taking n XT on a c W.
- 23:14Did you guys hear about that? No, I have heard that.
- 23:21Did turn down the CWS offered to put r O H on c W.
- 23:29Yeah, I was too, I was I heard that too. Sorry guys
- 23:33for starting the Russell ramls on YouTube. Well getting ready for tonight's podcast.
- 23:40Also, yeah, it just it just feels weird. It's just I hope
- 23:44it could be fixed. And I and the RUSS You didn't say that.
- 23:48Where bars scard Ys since when they merged together their dead? Yeah they are
- 23:53okay, but I'm still but also but yeah, also the about this,
- 24:00just like if God for fit, if I Dave it considered going to NBC
- 24:06slash Peacock, It's it's gonna be like the way the way w W was,
- 24:12It's gonna die. You know, it's gonna be such a shame because
- 24:17the sering amount effort that Tony Conn and company build it up. And and
- 24:22also like he can't put all four over bad money over good money all the
- 24:30time. If it ever happens too, so because next thing you know,
- 24:34he's gonna be broke and he has his clear bankruptcy and that's that as well.
- 24:40So yeah, well, like hurt wrestling in North America. To be
- 24:45honest, if we were and I'm not saying this to be biased, I'm
- 24:49serious, if we werenna lose AW, it would hurt wrestling in North America
- 24:53because even if you're rich, why did you want to invest in my promotion?
- 24:59If he you see recently what has happened, You've seen like what has
- 25:03happened when someone tries to go against the big behemoth and ww you know,
- 25:07so this is it's important, But I'm just I'm just not worried, not
- 25:14yet. But well, you know, it's it's all speculation at this point.
- 25:19I mean, I'm sure that there's been talks that we don't know about,
- 25:26and there's been you know, proposals that we don't know about, considered
- 25:33considerations that we don't know about, and I mean, okay, we're not
- 25:37considering this, or we are considering this, this, you know, from
- 25:41all avenues. Ultimately, I think what it comes down to is this AW
- 25:48is on Warner Brothers Discovery, right, now, and as the professional said,
- 25:52Warner Brothers Discovery is their main focus is on the TN you know,
- 25:57the NBA on TNT. You know, that's what they've got to focus on.
- 26:03That's their big money. If they lose that, frankly, nobody's gonna
- 26:07be watching TN, T or TBS very much anyway. They have to get
- 26:12something else in there. And is AW the right thing to take place of
- 26:18TN, you know, the NBA on TNT or whatever. No, it
- 26:22isn't. It's a totally different crowd. So there's a lot of stuff to
- 26:29play out. You know, you got also considered what the WWE They've got
- 26:33their presence on Peacock. Does Warner Brothers Discovery want to if, just hypothetically
- 26:40speaking, if Warner Brothers Discovery takes over WWE as their television property, what
- 26:47are they gonna do. Are they gonna put the WWE library on Max?
- 26:51Are they gonna put the premium live events on Max? Or are they going
- 26:53to keep the the pay per views on Bleacher? You know, there's a
- 27:00lot of stuff that's going on. And also, you know, you got
- 27:04to consider that these guys are professionals, not only Tony Kahan, you know,
- 27:11but the Endeavor group with WWE, the Warner Brothers Discovery. These guys
- 27:17are professionals. They're going to do what's best for them and that's it.
- 27:22So well, I don't think that they can. The one thing that's gonna
- 27:27hurt Warner Brothers Discovery with with w W would be the pay per views because
- 27:33I think w W is locked in with Pete Pockets at twenty twenty six.
- 27:38That could be wrong, Okay, I didn't know that, yeah, and
- 27:42that that will hurt. That's why I mentioned like they would be giving up
- 27:47so much to just get three hours from w W, three hours a week,
- 27:52compared to the five hours that AW gives them. Again, you got
- 27:57six hours of Battle of the Belts. That's just that's why I don't I
- 28:03don't think. That's why I'm not worried. The only thing that I'm worried
- 28:07about is the fact that Tony Kahan didn't agree with putting RH on CW because
- 28:15I think it would have been better for them to get their name out there
- 28:19on over the air television because there are people that don't have cable and they
- 28:26can watch CW. Like I know, the CW has college sports, so
- 28:32here I'm in Chicago. They show those games. Actually not even on the
- 28:37CW like syndicated countel. They show it on WGN, which used to have
- 28:41a superstation channel across the Nathan or whatever. But a lot of people watch
- 28:45that channel. So it's like if Roh can be guided on there. And
- 28:49I get like he wants to keep that relationship with Warner broad A Discovery,
- 28:52but now I wish they can find a way to get their shows on over
- 28:57the air television, whether it's a recap kill or whatever. Like that's how
- 29:03I followed WWF and WCW as a kid. Well, you know, the
- 29:07one thing that I can say, you know, and this is something that
- 29:10is working in Tony Kahn's favor with negotiations, is look at Revolution twenty twenty
- 29:17four, at all the tickets that it is sold already, and of course
- 29:21you can't discount in August of next year, twenty twenty four, you've got
- 29:25all in. So you know, those are international fans that could really bring
- 29:37in some revenue for whoever picks up aw, whether it's Warner Brothers, Discovery
- 29:45or some other entity. The professional Let's move on here because I don't want
- 29:49to talk about this for another sixty minutes. What there was something else you
- 29:56wanted to talk about, so hit us with it. Yeah, So we've
- 30:03seen AW. They've struggled recently or for the bed part of this year,
- 30:08especially from the summer on, with attendance ratings. I cannot remember the last
- 30:15time that they had viewership of over a million on average, and that just
- 30:19doesn't include like the start of the show coming from that Big Bang theory leader.
- 30:25You know. So they struggled. We've seen w there on the hot
- 30:29streak, the hottest that they've been. I haven't watched theww It's not my
- 30:33taste. But that leads me into just the question that I have or the
- 30:37thoughts that I have in REGARDSS to current wrestling fans. And I wasn't aware
- 30:44of this until this year. It this appears that and this is not to
- 30:48any fault of those wrestling fans, but it appears that in this continent,
- 30:53North America, we prioritize sports entertainment over wrestling, and I didn't pay attention
- 31:03to it. But over the years since AW has started, you know,
- 31:07they've always wanted to veer away from that sports entertainment, want to be more
- 31:11sports based, like New Japan Pro Wrestling. Is they had the ranking system.
- 31:18You know, you don't start many Dynamite shows with a twenty minute promo
- 31:21things of that nature. But you start to just hear some complaints or read
- 31:26complaints online. The ranking system doesn't make sense. They're just farming wins on
- 31:30Dark and Dark Elevation. Let's get away from the ranking system. Why isn't
- 31:36this, Why wasn't this on Dynamite? Why didn't they do this promo?
- 31:40Things like that, and like I said, didn't become apparent to me until
- 31:44this year that it just appears that most wrestling fans in North America again are
- 31:51sports entertainment fans. So I just want to know from all of you,
- 31:56what do you think AW fans are. Do you think they're mostly of sports
- 32:00entertainment or do you think they're mostly fans of wrestling? Because of my opinion,
- 32:04it just seems like one stuff that you got hot again, people just
- 32:07left AW and went back to that sports entertainment that they know and love as
- 32:14opposed to trying to I don't want to say this, but just trying to
- 32:19really follow wrestling. So I'll just throw it over to us. Leason,
- 32:25Well, I mean the fact that the matter is is what you define and
- 32:30sports entertainment, you know, I mean, like, what are we talking
- 32:34about here? Are we talking about kind of like the crazy stuff going on
- 32:37with them Jeff and Ale? Or are we talking about really cool storylines like
- 32:42can you make it an ADI page for four years? You know that?
- 32:46In terms of that, like, in terms of that stuff, people do
- 32:51want that, but they also want actually quantity wrestling. After all, North
- 32:55America was like, hey wwwe actually put what your wrestlers who can do a
- 33:00moon salt without breaking their heads? Now, of course, personally for me,
- 33:06since I'm wearing my Magic Meet shirt, I'm a fan of Danny Madge
- 33:09met nerd do you bear to me sports entertainers? And that doesn't mean I
- 33:16don't appreciate good wrestling. That was actually pretty good. I know, I'm
- 33:22a really good It was good. But the fact of the manner is that
- 33:27we do want both. And don't you be like that guy on Twitter who
- 33:30was like, do you want this thing or another thing? And then the
- 33:32other guy says both, because guess what North America does indeed want both,
- 33:39So shush to all the people being like, do you want one thing or
- 33:44do you want another because we want both. It's just everyone sucks at delivering
- 33:50both, except the indies at least. Right now, Uh, Renee,
- 33:54what's your thoughts? Well? Well, sorry, sorry before before you go,
- 33:58Rene and Key elaborate more on next. I want to hear more about,
- 34:02like why North Americans, I guess want both because I feel like it's
- 34:07one of the other. But yeah, I would love to hear more about
- 34:12that. Well, the fact of the matter is North America was going nuts
- 34:16over MJF and Adam Cole over the summer, you know, with all their
- 34:21shenanigans, being like, let's beat up all these kids at a trampoline park
- 34:25and yeah, let's drink this hot sauce while we're talking about how I slammed
- 34:30the Big Bill in the middle of Madison Square Garden or whatever. Guess what,
- 34:34we also go nuts for crazy spectacular matches like flood and guts and you
- 34:40know, like extreme wrestling, and you know, just all the good wrestling
- 34:45matches like that, you know. So the fact of the matter is we
- 34:52go nuts over both. We just need them both in high quality WWE.
- 34:57They can't do it. They can't be who wrestle and have quality storylines.
- 35:01At the same time they just suck all together and a W they're retreading their
- 35:07way towards that bound. Now, Braine, what's your thoughts? Okay,
- 35:13just run your clarification to essnal. Where where do you think the decline of
- 35:20like fandom of AW went when I just want I want to say it started
- 35:30slowly. And I hate to say this, but go ahead. Kind of
- 35:35saw it coming and that's why I didn't agree with AW fans doing this.
- 35:39I want to say it started when Cody went and went back to w W.
- 35:44Okay, because he's just meet in my opinion, he is a sports
- 35:49entertainer at heart, and he's a great amateur wrestler. I think he has
- 35:52a good amateur background in high school, but he is a sports entertainer at
- 35:57heart, and I think once he went to w slowly started and it kind
- 36:02of didn't stop. It Well, it hasn't stopped. That's you said.
- 36:10My take on that, basically, it's just I don't know. Maybe maybe
- 36:22I might be wrong on this, guys, but uh most but probably there
- 36:28are some people that do go to a W events, which you cool to
- 36:32tapings, you know, maybe just something it's just something to do. It's
- 36:37kind of like, you know, like you, me, me and my
- 36:42dad Will as an example, we go watch hockey game, just just something
- 36:45to do, you know, and and then realize, oh, there's wrestling
- 36:51it here, you know, all this stuff. But I'm but then again,
- 36:55I'm pretty sure there's there's been hardcore Day one ers of aw fans has
- 37:01been there for the get go, They've been there for Daily's placed in the
- 37:05pandemic, right, But still the concern is that too. It's like,
- 37:16yes, it's sold out, what was it all in? Yeah, okay,
- 37:24if that sold out, right, I don't think it sold out,
- 37:29but it had the most ticket sales of any is sold out. Anyone can
- 37:36quarify that it's not sold out. That's kind of a hard thing to say,
- 37:40because when they initially released the tickets for Revolution to set up was for
- 37:49X amount of seats, and they started to get close to selling that out,
- 37:54even though the it wasn't the entire arena. They had to release more
- 38:00seats and they may even have to do it again. So no, Revolution
- 38:04isn't sold out per se as far as the arena size, but it's getting
- 38:08close to selling out the setup that they have, which may result in even
- 38:14more seats being opened up. Okay, and that's of course if I do
- 38:19know this that this would be stayings class match as a as a professionals will
- 38:25be weird and see go. But to understandable, he's been around for a
- 38:30lot of time. Do you okay? So I'll post this question. Do
- 38:37you guys and Edward can chime in. Do you guys think that maybe there'll
- 38:40be a point to aid that can't topple the other brands if it was done
- 38:45properly, no matter what side you're on, if it's if it's for sports
- 38:51entertainment or just a wrestling part of it. Sure, I mean anything,
- 38:57you know, any given Sunday is an expression used in NFL football. It's
- 39:00the same thing with professional wrestling. It's some same thing. People WCW beat
- 39:06the hell out of WWE ye and then they folded. You know, It's
- 39:10as simple as that. It's consistency. It's putting a consistent good product out
- 39:17and being accessible. If there's one thing that I can say about ae W
- 39:23in my opinion is that it's not as accessible as WWE, Meaning how many
- 39:31shows did they have in Chicago last year? There's only fifty two weeks in
- 39:36a year. You know what I'm saying. I'll give you an example I
- 39:39have where I live. It's a smaller area in northeastern Pennsylvania. We do
- 39:45have an arena here that holds not you know, it's a minor league hockey
- 39:52arena. WCW is here, WWE, WWE was here just a few weeks
- 40:00ago. Right a w has never been here. You if you want,
- 40:07if you want to get fans to come to your shows, you've got to
- 40:10be accessible to the fans. And if the fans come to your shows,
- 40:15then they'll start watching you on TV. If you're going for the you know,
- 40:22basically the residents of Chicago to be your fan base that stay in Chicago.
- 40:30Look at the ratings when when AW did their last tour of Canada,
- 40:35the ratings in the United States pretty much tanked. Why because they weren't in
- 40:39the United States. You know, it's great doing a show in Montreal and
- 40:45then doing a show in Long Island and then doing a show in Detroit,
- 40:49et cetera, et cetera, But staying out of the country for two months
- 40:53is not It's just not good. I mean, especially since Canada doesn't have
- 41:00you know, I see it all the time on Reddit. Where can I
- 41:05watch aw on in Canada? I live in Canada. Where can I watch
- 41:08it? And it's not accessible? Well yes, in a way, yes
- 41:14and no, because that's what's that's what I get pissed off about. Where.
- 41:19Okay, so far as I know that either Dynamite if it's a double
- 41:22on ts N two, okay, that that's But the crappy part is that
- 41:30for a Rampage and Collision is on ts N Plus. But and the way
- 41:37before it was it was on a preview basis. But now you have to
- 41:42pay like seven or eight dollars to go watch go watch that stuff, and
- 41:46that's not right, you know, Yes, I am ahead, sorry,
- 41:57just way fish and I'll bring it back in. So I probably damn lucky
- 42:04if I get if worst comes the worst, if I don't watch No Dynamite
- 42:07and hope and pray that there is a replay of Dynamite to catch up on
- 42:14it. But yet I can't do it for Rampage and Collision because really I
- 42:21can't literally afford seventy seven dollars, just like much syncing with the Honor Club.
- 42:24Can't afford that. And but lista get so that's all. That's why
- 42:29I have watching it from other sources on Amazon, fire TV, through whatever
- 42:35source I get from. Of course, you know, there's no guarantee it's
- 42:38gonna, you know, be all right, because it can. It was
- 42:44a Saint lax. But there's your answer. If you want, for those
- 42:47who are wondering where you can watch an W it's on there. And again,
- 42:52if you want to pay Semurai bucks for wherever it is, throw your
- 42:58boots on me. I'm just talking. I can watch TSN and have those
- 43:01channels and TSN two. So okay, what did you want to say with
- 43:06professional Yeah, I was gonna ask you because like I was in Toronto for
- 43:09a forbidden dorm and I remember, like I wasn't in my hotel room for
- 43:15a long time, but there was a time where I was in there for
- 43:16a few hours and it was like, legit, nothing on television like the
- 43:21TSNs or whatever. I was gonna ask, what the hell are they showing
- 43:24on ts N two on a Friday night or on a Saturday that they can't
- 43:30put a W on. I don't. I don't get it like that.
- 43:35It's an understanding. Yeah, I get you. You're from Desion it's not
- 43:37my call. So the only thing I can say is like, maybe contact
- 43:40TSN and see what's about this. I was asking you, like, like
- 43:45what what do they typically show? Like, well, I know, I
- 43:51know you're I know you're asking, but I just it's the best way is
- 43:54like you just go to the website and just scroll down with what they what
- 43:59they show for on you know, on Monday at least money the Sunday money
- 44:05to Sunday. But I just know right now it's for the most part,
- 44:07it's showing Montreal Cana games on there, which she had to be in the
- 44:13mount of region or in this case here where I am that to watch that.
- 44:19But that's as an example. Sometimes it will show college football, sometimes
- 44:25it shows other stuff. It just it just it depends. But I but
- 44:31I do understand what you're coming from too. And on a side note,
- 44:36anyone cares about the other brands? Really it is available on It is about
- 44:44on Spurts at three sixty for Raw SmackDown and NXT. Okay, we don't
- 44:50care. We don't care about the other brand. Yeah, I just I
- 44:54know, but just one man mentioned it. Girls are wondering about where the
- 44:59w We don't care about the other bread. That's yeah, I appreciate it
- 45:02with me. I appreciate you giving me some concepts, like I said,
- 45:07so much, and they it doesn't sound like it will be a problem for
- 45:09them to Yes, I can I chime in now. Yeah, so this
- 45:17is one that this whole thing with the location bull crap and the bull crap
- 45:23of not being accessible as a brand. This crap is what I've been nagging
- 45:27about this whole year. They've only this is the first year at least to
- 45:31my knowledge, that we're doing who It'sburg shows? Two whole shows. Why
- 45:37can't we get sixty nine shows? Why can't you do a show out Oakland?
- 45:40Hell, you could go into collegeum and actually get that damn thing to
- 45:44feel since oh, guess what, they're losing their baseball team. Maybe I
- 45:47don't know, maybe tour around the Midwest, maybe a little bit more consistently.
- 45:52Maybe then you'll get some more fans getting accessibility right there. You know,
- 45:55this is something I wanted to break it here. I wanted to That's
- 46:00the original question. Sports entertainment versus actual wrestling. For me, it's a
- 46:05mixture of both. That's what I want to see, And I think maybe
- 46:09I can't speak for other fans. It's presumptuous for me to speak for other
- 46:13fans, but I can. I could talk maybe about what my friends and
- 46:17I have talked about with wrestling, and that's basically is that we do want
- 46:22it. It's great having great matches, but if they're random great matches without
- 46:29a story, you're losing something there. So you do gain something by putting
- 46:34on a great match, but having a good story lead up to it.
- 46:37Now, we don't want a story that takes, you know, six weeks
- 46:42to get to a match or stuff like that. Now, sometimes that works.
- 46:46I made a post earlier on aw phantob about Julia Hart. It's been
- 46:52a little over two years now since Julia Hart was missed by Malachi Black,
- 46:59but hersh story has evolved. Sure, it was a slow burd at first
- 47:04because of the Ray Phoenix injury that kind of stopped her from joining the House
- 47:07of Black for an extended period of time, But her story has progressed incrementally
- 47:15at a good pace that matches her development. But it's progressed at a good
- 47:21pace and it's not getting complacent. We just on collision. We just saw
- 47:25sky Blue come in. Did it mix as a possible partner long term for
- 47:31Julia Hart. We have the whole avanon story going on. Thunderosa is now
- 47:37going to be standing toe to toe with Julia Hart. Rijo has said that
- 47:42she wants to go after the World Championship, but she's got her eye on
- 47:45Julia Hart too. This is what I'm talking about, these little subtle things
- 47:51that they can do to build story so that when a match eventually does happen,
- 47:58there's some context there. Okay, So I want to move on to
- 48:02Dynamite, and we're going a little bit long here, So what I want
- 48:07to do is I want to go right into our Spicy Predictions segment. We
- 48:14can look at the Dynamite card, whether you're talking about the matches themselves,
- 48:19or MJF and Samoa Joe coming out, or something else that'll happen. But
- 48:24go ahead and pick up maybe two of the matches or whatever storylines you want
- 48:30to talk about that's going to be happening tomorrow night on Dynamite and give us
- 48:36your thoughts and we'll just go down the line on that and I will give
- 48:40my thoughts at the end. So Sleazy, go ahead, Well for my
- 48:49Spicy Prediction tonight. Since we're going to hear from MJF and Smoke Joe,
- 48:57that obviously means we're going to lead to more heavy hints at the Devil is
- 49:02going to be Jungle Boy, all right, because I have a theory right
- 49:07now that when they're talking, suddenly two goons are gonna ambush them and then
- 49:14throw them onto real glass panes on cars. Thus two, you could maybe
- 49:22have maybe three, four or five, even sixty nine, Okay, but
- 49:27the factor yeah, But the fact of matter is it's only gonna be a
- 49:30matter of because if we're hearing from both before their tag match, that means
- 49:34we're gonna get even more heavy hinting towards Jungle Boy being the Devil. And
- 49:37then when Friday or Saturday comes along, guess what it's gonna be. Jungle
- 49:44Boy, It's gonna be the greatest day of my life. So anyway,
- 49:49that professional what's your professional opinion outside of the greatest day in your life occur
- 50:00in a few days. I predict that Jay Lethal is going to lose and
- 50:06he will be the only person in the Condal Classic with zero points. I
- 50:13think the story is setting up that way. This probably would lead to him
- 50:17leaving Jeff Jarrett and his goons. But I predict that Jay Lethal will finish
- 50:22the Condonal Classic with zero points, So I'm gonna throw it over to remain
- 50:30thinking of that. The match card for through the fan heb on Reddit.
- 50:37I marked down my winners here for that, So you're right, will lose,
- 50:45let me win that, Boxley will win his match, Brush will win
- 50:51his Real will win her match, and Commander will win his match against Rogert
- 50:55Strong because because honestly I hate that guy, Rod Rod put a towel in
- 51:02your mouth and shut it, man. That's I think that's the point.
- 51:09Yeah, yeah, otherwise it wouldn't be funny. Yeah. So but like
- 51:15I said, that's that's my predictions. Firtimore, when I said, am
- 51:17I I'm right as I watch it wherever which way, you know, I'm
- 51:24looking at this MGF and Samoa Joe's segment, and I'm wondering because there's so
- 51:29many things. As Sleazy said, they could get attacked by two three,
- 51:34four, esty nine uh goons, Jack Perry and his double mask, which
- 51:43you know, of course there's swears all over the place. But aw said
- 51:49that the devil has been the devil all long this has been the same players
- 51:54all along, and it's not Jack Perry. I have a hard time I
- 52:00believe in that. I really do think all signs lead to Jack Perry.
- 52:02But here's the thing, this is what I'm interested in seeing during this MGF
- 52:07and Samoa Joe's segment. Okay, so when the last time we actually saw
- 52:13MGF, he was laid out out back after we get it, hit over
- 52:16to head with a beer bottle, and so that made everybody think that it
- 52:22could be that the devil could be Hangman Adam Page. Correct. Then last
- 52:30week Hangman Adam Page was proven not to be the devil because the devil and
- 52:36his goons attacked Hangman Adam Page and slammed him onto a glass windshield, which
- 52:45led people to say, oh, it's real glass, cribe a river.
- 52:50The devil is Jack Perry. Well, what happens this week? What happens
- 52:58this week? If they do some thing else and it points a finger at
- 53:05yet another. It's brilliant when you think about it. Everybody was sure that
- 53:12it may have been you know that it was Hagman Haddam Page with the beer
- 53:15bottle and everything, and it isn't. Now everybody sure it's Jack Perry.
- 53:20What if they do something tomorrow night that proves that it isn't Jack Perry.
- 53:24Interesting stuff that could be happening here all. You know, my big thing
- 53:34is every day I gotta agree with you, I'm kind of odd in my
- 53:39preferences. There's two stories that I'm not buying into right now that I think
- 53:46need to be fleshed out better. One is Roderick Strong. I'm really not
- 53:53enjoying him doing the same thing week after week after. I mean, his
- 53:58biggest accomplishment in the last two months is getting out of the wheelchair. Actually,
- 54:04the second think, the second place of commage was able to beat Chris
- 54:07Jorco that in that street fight. If you will, that's yeah, I
- 54:12didn't. I didn't care. The second person that I'm really starting to lose
- 54:16interested is Tony Storm of all people. I mean, you got Rio and
- 54:21Sorea fighting to uh earn the earned the world title shot at World's End tomorrow
- 54:30night, which I do think Rio is going to win, but I don't
- 54:35think Rio is going to win the match at World's End. But my point
- 54:38behind all this is, you know, Tony Storm is doing great character work,
- 54:46but it's taken away from her wrestling, and Tony Storm is a terrific
- 54:51wrestler and I want to see her wrestle, you know. And she's even
- 54:58her last match with that metal plate she put up her heights wrestling tights that
- 55:04was horribly executed. You know, it just did nothing for me, really
- 55:10didn't. I want to see Tony Storm just wrestle, right. I love
- 55:15the character, but it's it's not something that I want to see. I
- 55:22don't know how you guys feel about it. But a year from now,
- 55:25I hope it's not the same thing because that would that would drive me nuts.
- 55:30It's gonna drive me nuts as well as Calson. I just want to
- 55:32say it too. It's like, uh, like I've never scort through acts
- 55:38one day just for fun to see the aw's count. And she was promoting
- 55:45both you know, upcoming you know shows if you will, and she's the
- 55:49way she was saying brand patient diamonds, like I was like lapping my face
- 55:53up, are you kidding me? Round that day and Colisio. You know,
- 56:02but that's that's fine, that's entertaining. That's not on TV. That's
- 56:07you know, promotional, and she's great at that. I have my problem
- 56:12is. I just don't want to see her be doing the same thing on
- 56:15TV that she's doing now a year from now. I mentioned Julia Hart,
- 56:20right, she's doing the same thing that she was doing, you know,
- 56:25two years ago, basically, But it was it's evolved, It's continually evolved,
- 56:32you know. So that's my point. If if Tony Storm doesn't evolve,
- 56:38then it's it's going to be it's gonna hurt Tony Storm in the end,
- 56:43because she is a darn good wrestler and I don't want to see her
- 56:47wrestling overshadowed by a character work arc that potentially could get old for other people.
- 57:00One last question that I want to ask everybody. We the final matches
- 57:10are coming up in the Gold League. I think there's everybody has to fight
- 57:15two more matches in the Blue League. If I'm not mistaken, we've already
- 57:22established that. Who was I think it was Renee said that, Well,
- 57:29somebody said that Jay Lethal was going to go winless. That the pressure as
- 57:32the one that's brought it up. Beniel Daniel Garcia. The Blue League is
- 57:38also winless. Do we think that he's gonna win a match? I mean
- 57:44he's got uh, he's got Brody King left. I believe, M chance
- 57:52you know now that you bring that up, I don't. I don't know,
- 57:55because I did say that I thought d is going to be the only
- 58:00so without a win, and that was because I didn't realize that Denny Garcia
- 58:06is going against Berdy King. So I don't know. Maybe Dane Garcia also
- 58:10has zero wins. Yeah, I mean, you'll look at it this way.
- 58:16I still believe that I do believe that Eddie Kingston's gonna win this tournament.
- 58:28Whether you like Eddie or not, I think that it's Eddie Kingston's tournament.
- 58:34And whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, I'll leave it
- 58:37up to the community to decide. But well, this is the first actually
- 58:43thinking Eddie's gonna win something. Oh, I've I've picked Eddie to win a
- 58:49lot sleazy. Do I want him to win? No, But I've picked
- 58:53him to win because it makes sense. I've picked him to lose the first
- 58:59match in this tournament because I thought it made sense. Because Eddie is at
- 59:02his best when he's an underdog, when the odds are stacked against him.
- 59:08That's when his character is the most dynamic, is the most believable. And
- 59:17you know, sincerely speaking right now, I mean, he's at six points.
- 59:22I believe it is because I think the the b lou League thing that
- 59:27I put up is incorrect. But he's at six points. But so is
- 59:32Brody king you know. And I think that we're gonna see, you know,
- 59:39Eddie Kingston somehow sneak his way into this tournament semi finals, and I
- 59:46think he's gonna win the whole thing. Let's face it kind of suck for
- 59:52Eddie to put two of his belts on the line and then have him taken
- 59:55away due to booking. You know, let's be real here. Well,
- 1:00:02so I forget again, like as I said on Shiit Talk, that he's
- 1:00:07the one has to go home, is to put every in a line for
- 1:00:09the reason that like, let's have let's have some real rustling boys. No,
- 1:00:15And and if he does that, if he pulls this miracle and three
- 1:00:22fourth Street type thing, it, it's gonna be kind of awesome because prove
- 1:00:29that not. I guess in the long run, it was the right thing
- 1:00:32to do. Put those belts on the line, to show that I could
- 1:00:36do this. Or disagree, No, I mean I I no, I
- 1:00:40agree with you. I mean, it's it's one of those things where you
- 1:00:44know, that's what his character is, you know, and I genuinely like
- 1:00:50the underdog story. I think most people do root for the underdogs, and
- 1:00:53Eddie kings Did is an underdog story. You know. Whether whether he does
- 1:01:00deserves to win or not, that's up to everybody's interpretation. I'm just saying
- 1:01:05that I do believe. You know, there's a large part of me that
- 1:01:08believes that this tournament right now is in Eddie Kingston's hands. That's it.
- 1:01:14Now that you mentioned that Telson and I thought about the belts that Eddie Kingston
- 1:01:19currently has new Japan Pro Wrestling Strong Championship and then also the RH Championship.
- 1:01:25I don't know, Like maybe call me craziness is probably stupid thought, but
- 1:01:30like, how bit official can this Condental Classic be for r O eight Because
- 1:01:37they're gonna it's gonna be a triple crowd champion, So I assume that person
- 1:01:42also is gonna defend the belt on RH programming Like no, no, he
- 1:01:47won, they won't. Are you sure? I'm sure? I mean literally,
- 1:01:53I mean, Eddie Kingston may defend the belt on R O H programming,
- 1:01:58but all the other people that are on this list with the shot at
- 1:02:01actually winning the belt or the belts, they're gonna be on a w programming.
- 1:02:09Okay, where would you put the belt gain, like the tier?
- 1:02:14Would it be above TNT and International Championship or below it? That's well,
- 1:02:23I personally feel the internet you said between the TNT and the International Championship?
- 1:02:29Yeah, where would you ran it? Well? I personally have felt for
- 1:02:32months that the International Championship is the least prestigious championship in all of AW.
- 1:02:39I just you know, the whole orange cassidy is the AW International champion is
- 1:02:47boring to me, It really is. I mean, I'm a firm believer,
- 1:02:52even the wrestlers that I like, like the House of Black Julia Hart,
- 1:02:58I am a firm believer that that nobody should Roman raids the hell out
- 1:03:01of these belts. You know, they need to change hands to keep them
- 1:03:08interesting. Jay Cargill was boring to me because she held onto the belt for
- 1:03:14too long. Chris Stantlander lost that belt at exactly the right time. The
- 1:03:22Trios Championship is boring to me right now because it's just stop being defended,
- 1:03:30you know, and the Trios there's no trios, teams really waiting in the
- 1:03:35wings. They're making them up as they go, and it just doesn't make
- 1:03:37any sense to me. But yeah, I mean this Continental Belt, where
- 1:03:43does it rank? We'll see who gets you know, I'm just gonna be
- 1:03:46honest with you here. If the Continental Belt hangs hangs around the waste of
- 1:03:52somebody like John Moxley, swear Strickland, Jay White, for example, Brian
- 1:03:58Danielson on Trotty, I'll lead a low. I'm fine with it. I
- 1:04:02think that that belt would definitely be above the TNT title. If it's hanging
- 1:04:08around the waist of Eddie Kingston, it's just not a good belt. I'm
- 1:04:12sorry. That's just the way I feel. Now other people may feel differently,
- 1:04:16and I respect that, but for me, Eddie Kingston, just looking
- 1:04:23at these rosters, these twelve wrestlers, I can honestly say eight of them
- 1:04:30are at least seven of them are far and away better wrestlers than Eddie Kingston
- 1:04:35and many to other people on the roster. So anyway, that's just my
- 1:04:45opinion, and I guess on that note, we will just end the show.
- 1:04:51This was ignition from aw fan of and I want to thank Sleazy Renee
- 1:04:58and a professional did a great hosting job of your segments there, bro,
- 1:05:02Thank you so much, appreciate it, and we will see you. I
- 1:05:09don't know if we're gonna be here next week. We're smack Dad. Between
- 1:05:13Christmas and and uh New Year's, people will be traveling, spending time with
- 1:05:19their families, maybe getting you know, maybe having to work off the holiday
- 1:05:25meals. You know, that's what I'll be doing. Yeah, probably the
- 1:05:29same thing here. I don't think I'll be around for the next episode because
- 1:05:33I'll be with my family where I'm at and that makes sense. But and
- 1:05:41yeah, also try to get over you know, the last turkey. Yeah,
- 1:05:47so we do have right now, We're gonna go ahead and go ahead
- 1:05:51with All Eat Talk tomorrow night, right after Dynamite. But if that changes
- 1:05:59a change. We are aw fans. We're not set on a schedule.
- 1:06:03We do what we do because we like what we do. But we're not
- 1:06:08going to force anybody to participate, and that's in stint. Real life comes
- 1:06:14first anyway. This is Kelson for aw fan, humb Sleazy Renee the professional,
- 1:06:20Thank you once again, and good night everybody.