Latest / Crosstabs / Candidate Clip: Will Lathrop
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- 0:00SPEAKER_01: we're clear to engage time on target five mics out there he is will a trip on the pod how you doing
- 0:28SPEAKER_01: Good.
- 0:28SPEAKER_01: Welcome.
- 0:29SPEAKER_01: I'm glad that we finally got people with good haircuts on the podcast.
- 0:36SPEAKER_01: Reagan always gets upset when I wear a hat because, you know, he likes to see my shiny bald bald head.
- 0:43SPEAKER_01: Oh, boy.
- 0:44SPEAKER_01: Well, well, thanks for being on the podcast.
- 0:52SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm not going to give you the obligatory.
- 0:54SPEAKER_01: How's the campaign going?
- 0:55SPEAKER_01: I'm going to give you a stat that I'm looking at because I'm a number hound.
- 0:59SPEAKER_01: Not really.
- 1:00SPEAKER_01: I'm the emotional guy.
- 1:01SPEAKER_01: Reagan's the number guy.
- 1:02SPEAKER_01: But turnout, 328,000 Republicans have voted, 407,000 Democrats voted.
- 1:11SPEAKER_01: 215,000 nonpartisan and then a bunch of others right in there.
- 1:15SPEAKER_01: So the reality is there's only 39% are Democrats that have voted today and the rest aren't,
- 1:23SPEAKER_01: which I would imagine is who you're trying to go
- 1:26SPEAKER_01: get their vote for him as well as probably some democrats too that are kind of
- 1:29SPEAKER_01: tired of stuff but what is i want to start with like what is kind of like what are
- 1:34SPEAKER_01: you going to do between now and like tuesday to make your case like what's on the
- 1:39SPEAKER_01: what's on the strategy what's on the agenda um to make your final closing argument
- 1:44SPEAKER_01: besides coming on the best podcast in oregon but uh
- 1:49SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's a long adventure is coming to an end.
- 1:54SPEAKER_02: Well, you know, we're on TV, we'll be on TV throughout.
- 1:56SPEAKER_02: And then we're targeting digital media,
- 2:00SPEAKER_02: people we think are swing or gettable voters on YouTube and all the streaming platforms.
- 2:05SPEAKER_02: So that stuff is already paid for and in play.
- 2:08SPEAKER_02: And right now,
- 2:10SPEAKER_02: I'm doing a lot of ways that don't cost money to try to get votes.
- 2:13SPEAKER_02: We have a text campaign where we're texting people in our constituency and asking
- 2:18SPEAKER_02: them to text a graphic with my platform to as many people as they can.
- 2:23SPEAKER_02: We've had a lot of leaders across the state and influencers across the state agree
- 2:27SPEAKER_02: to send out emails on our behalf to their constituencies,
- 2:30SPEAKER_02: just trying to two becomes four,
- 2:31SPEAKER_02: four becomes eight,
- 2:32SPEAKER_02: eight becomes 16,
- 2:33SPEAKER_02: just trying to build relationships.
- 2:34SPEAKER_02: Build things that way.
- 2:36SPEAKER_02: I'm in my phone banking clothes right now.
- 2:38SPEAKER_02: Normally I'm in a suit and tie.
- 2:40SPEAKER_01: Right, we're not video.
- 2:42SPEAKER_01: You're good.
- 2:43SPEAKER_01: Me too.
- 2:44SPEAKER_02: It's,
- 2:45SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 2:45SPEAKER_02: like I just,
- 2:46SPEAKER_02: I caught two minutes before I got on here,
- 2:48SPEAKER_02: I was trying to squeeze one more call in.
- 2:50SPEAKER_02: Cause I just, I think this is what's such low voter turnout.
- 2:53SPEAKER_02: We already knew that this race was really within the margin of error.
- 2:56SPEAKER_02: It's going to be really,
- 2:57SPEAKER_02: really close and I don't want to get to the end and have left any,
- 3:00SPEAKER_02: any fruit on the tree left to pluck.
- 3:01SPEAKER_02: So my team is working really hard at getting our volunteers to phone bank and yeah,
- 3:07SPEAKER_02: just,
- 3:07SPEAKER_02: just voice magnifying across platforms.
- 3:09SPEAKER_02: That's what we're hoping will make the difference.
- 3:14SPEAKER_00: Well, we're very excited to be part of the Get Out the Vote Radio Roadshow that you're doing.
- 3:18SPEAKER_00: I saw that on your Twitter account.
- 3:21SPEAKER_00: Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
- 3:23SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was one more.
- 3:26SPEAKER_02: We're going on this podcast and radio, and so I was excited to do this one, too.
- 3:30SPEAKER_00: Are you driving to all those, or are you remoting mostly to make efficient use of your time?
- 3:36SPEAKER_02: Mostly remoting, but I think we are going to go in studio on a few.
- 3:40SPEAKER_01: Oh, nice.
- 3:43SPEAKER_01: Up there, well, it's raining outside like crazy over in the valley.
- 3:46SPEAKER_01: It's just cold over here in my neck of the woods in eastern Oregon.
- 3:51SPEAKER_01: But I've talked to a lot of people.
- 3:52SPEAKER_01: I got a couple races going on in the valley over there, and they're telling me it's just dumping rain.
- 3:56SPEAKER_01: So I think I'm a little concerned for,
- 4:01SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 4:01SPEAKER_01: our friends,
- 4:02SPEAKER_01: the Democrats,
- 4:02SPEAKER_01: with their get out the vote effort this weekend.
- 4:04SPEAKER_01: They might have a hard time.
- 4:05SPEAKER_01: You know, the Ducks are number one, and they're on TV Saturday.
- 4:09SPEAKER_01: I mean, how many people really want to go out –
- 4:12SPEAKER_01: Trying to get the vote, so... Not a great time to be door-knocking, right?
- 4:17SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I would agree, I think.
- 4:19SPEAKER_01: What do you think has been...
- 4:21SPEAKER_01: I mean,
- 4:22SPEAKER_01: and I've heard as well that this race is inside the margin,
- 4:25SPEAKER_01: it's close.
- 4:26SPEAKER_01: What do you think has been, like, the reason?
- 4:29SPEAKER_01: I mean,
- 4:29SPEAKER_01: besides the fact that you've been running for,
- 4:30SPEAKER_01: like,
- 4:31SPEAKER_01: a year and a half or something at this point,
- 4:33SPEAKER_01: but...
- 4:33SPEAKER_01: You know,
- 4:35SPEAKER_01: what do you think really is,
- 4:36SPEAKER_01: like,
- 4:37SPEAKER_01: the one or two reasons why this race is so close?
- 4:41SPEAKER_02: Well, I think...
- 4:42SPEAKER_02: Of course,
- 4:43SPEAKER_02: anybody would say it's because I'm awesome and I'm great,
- 4:45SPEAKER_02: but I think it's a law enforcement position.
- 4:49SPEAKER_02: It's a technical position rather than a political position.
- 4:53SPEAKER_02: Traditionally, voters trust, especially moderate voters trust
- 4:59SPEAKER_02: Republicans over Democrats to deal with law enforcement.
- 5:01SPEAKER_02: It's the one area we generally pull higher than the Democrats in.
- 5:05SPEAKER_02: And I also think that crime is indiscriminate, right?
- 5:08SPEAKER_02: Everybody's suffering from crime and addiction and homelessness right now.
- 5:11SPEAKER_02: Everybody's suffering the same.
- 5:13SPEAKER_02: And so there's this unified desire to see some change.
- 5:18SPEAKER_02: And the leadership paradigm in the Democrat Party has not been able to address that.
- 5:22SPEAKER_02: And they still even now are floundering in their rhetoric
- 5:26SPEAKER_02: And I don't think they have the ability to even deliver on their own rhetoric,
- 5:29SPEAKER_02: but they're floundering in their ability to define what they can do about the
- 5:33SPEAKER_02: problems that are,
- 5:34SPEAKER_02: especially in law enforcement,
- 5:35SPEAKER_02: that people are really suffering from.
- 5:37SPEAKER_02: And I would say one other thing is I've just been,
- 5:41SPEAKER_02: I've been so grateful with the patchwork of the support I've gotten from around the state.
- 5:48SPEAKER_02: I've tried to run a really grassroots campaign
- 5:51SPEAKER_02: and just go everywhere and meet everybody I can.
- 5:54SPEAKER_02: So I've gone to all 36 counties.
- 5:56SPEAKER_02: I've spoken in all 36 counties.
- 5:58SPEAKER_02: And I've also gone to countless neighborhood associations in Portland where I'm the
- 6:02SPEAKER_02: only Republican in the room or the only one who is a Republican in the room and try
- 6:08SPEAKER_02: to find commonality in that.
- 6:10SPEAKER_02: And so when I'm doing this Get Out the Vote campaign, I'm not just reaching out to...
- 6:15SPEAKER_02: the Republican supporters,
- 6:16SPEAKER_02: there's been a pretty significant amount of Democrat influencers who have also used
- 6:21SPEAKER_02: their platform to try to get me elected because they see that this is a really
- 6:25SPEAKER_02: nonpartisan position that could be used for good or it could be a political
- 6:29SPEAKER_02: position that can really wreck things if not used appropriately.
- 6:33SPEAKER_00: I do.
- 6:34SPEAKER_00: I did want to let you know that your grassroots campaign has accidentally raised
- 6:38SPEAKER_00: one point six million dollars.
- 6:39SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you know that, which is a really good sum.
- 6:42SPEAKER_00: And I I don't know this fact because I didn't go back and check,
- 6:46SPEAKER_00: but I suspect that's the most money raised by a non-governor candidate who is a
- 6:51SPEAKER_00: Republican running statewide.
- 6:53SPEAKER_00: Maybe ever, but certainly in the last 10 to 15 years.
- 6:59SPEAKER_00: Maybe Richardson in 2016 would be the next closest.
- 7:02SPEAKER_00: Let me see if I can find his real quick.
- 7:05SPEAKER_02: So Sam, Sam's in the room with me.
- 7:07SPEAKER_02: I'm not,
- 7:07SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure,
- 7:08SPEAKER_02: but I think,
- 7:08SPEAKER_02: I think we're actually going to come in about 2.2 million is what we'll raise by
- 7:12SPEAKER_02: the end.
- 7:14SPEAKER_01: And I see how it is.
- 7:18SPEAKER_02: We're at 2.1.
- 7:19SPEAKER_02: And I do think,
- 7:21SPEAKER_02: I do think we're probably at about the place Richardson raised or maybe it's been really,
- 7:26SPEAKER_02: and you know,
- 7:26SPEAKER_02: I'll tell you,
- 7:27SPEAKER_02: it's really been,
- 7:29SPEAKER_00: we haven't,
- 7:29SPEAKER_00: it was a 1.6.
- 7:30SPEAKER_00: Richardson was 1.6 in 2016.
- 7:31SPEAKER_00: So you, you will beat that.
- 7:35SPEAKER_02: Well,
- 7:35SPEAKER_02: and I'll tell you the thing that I think I'm really grateful for is that I have
- 7:39SPEAKER_02: almost no lobby support and all of my money is from Oregon.
- 7:43SPEAKER_02: 96% of our funds have come from Oregon donors,
- 7:46SPEAKER_02: not from,
- 7:47SPEAKER_02: we haven't had big,
- 7:48SPEAKER_02: big organizations outside jumping money on the campaign.
- 7:50SPEAKER_02: It's been a lot of a hundred dollars and a thousand dollars,
- 7:53SPEAKER_02: $5,000 contributions over the course of the last year and a half.
- 7:57SPEAKER_02: And yeah, it's, it's been truly a grassroots effort.
- 8:01SPEAKER_01: Why, so lobby, are they given to your opponent?
- 8:08SPEAKER_01: Or is this not really a position they don't necessarily,
- 8:12SPEAKER_01: I mean,
- 8:12SPEAKER_01: because obviously the business lobby,
- 8:14SPEAKER_01: I would think that the attorney general's office is an important position for them.
- 8:20SPEAKER_02: There was a lot of lobby interest early in this race.
- 8:24SPEAKER_02: And then I think if my opponent's done something well,
- 8:26SPEAKER_02: Dan is not somebody who's going to grassroots campaign.
- 8:29SPEAKER_02: Dan's probably hasn't gone to a third of the counties in the state.
- 8:33SPEAKER_02: That's not his MO.
- 8:34SPEAKER_02: But one thing he's worked hard at is cutting off the political insiders of lobbying
- 8:43SPEAKER_02: and trying to keep them out of the race.
- 8:44SPEAKER_02: And he's done that pretty effectively.
- 8:47SPEAKER_02: And I've been disappointed by that.
- 8:48SPEAKER_02: But at the same time, I've got the money other ways.
- 8:52SPEAKER_02: I've been able to raise in other ways.
- 8:54SPEAKER_02: At the end of the day,
- 8:56SPEAKER_02: every candidate would rather have their profile be that a lot of Oregonians gave
- 9:00SPEAKER_02: them money rather than the lobby lobbyists gave them money.
- 9:03SPEAKER_02: We'll expect something in return.
- 9:05SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this is true.
- 9:07SPEAKER_01: I would think that you're probably correct there, especially and obviously didn't slow you down.
- 9:12SPEAKER_01: I mean, you still raised over two million dollars is what you said you're going to come in at.
- 9:15SPEAKER_01: That's.
- 9:16SPEAKER_01: That really is incredible.
- 9:17SPEAKER_01: That's a testament to your campaign,
- 9:18SPEAKER_01: but it's also,
- 9:19SPEAKER_01: I think,
- 9:19SPEAKER_01: a testament to,
- 9:21SPEAKER_01: one,
- 9:21SPEAKER_01: this office just really hasn't been
- 9:24SPEAKER_01: open or had any real you know credible challenge to it in in decades at this point
- 9:31SPEAKER_01: um so i think it's uh i just find that the messaging like where you stick on the
- 9:36SPEAKER_01: issues that i think this office can really affect and you know rayfield is just
- 9:41SPEAKER_01: focused on he's going to defend abortion which is coming out of every single
- 9:46SPEAKER_01: democrat out there it's the same like even
- 9:51SPEAKER_01: Steiner, Senator Steiner put in hers, she's running for treasurer.
- 9:55SPEAKER_01: She put that she's going to invest in abortion access.
- 9:58SPEAKER_01: I don't even know what that means.
- 9:59SPEAKER_01: I was like, how do you wedge that in when you're running for treasurer?
- 10:04SPEAKER_01: It's just crazy to me.
- 10:08SPEAKER_01: I wish you the best of luck.
- 10:10SPEAKER_01: You know that I'm all in and we really want to see you get over the finish line here.
- 10:15SPEAKER_01: Plus, I just want to see statewide challengers actually be
- 10:21SPEAKER_01: And Richardson did it in 2016.
- 10:24SPEAKER_01: And I think we just have to put up competent people that can make their case to the public,
- 10:29SPEAKER_01: do the roadshow,
- 10:31SPEAKER_01: raise the money,
- 10:31SPEAKER_01: have the right message.
- 10:34SPEAKER_01: And then I think we can fight statewide for these races.
- 10:36SPEAKER_01: And we should.
- 10:37SPEAKER_01: We should be able to take everybody to task on these races.
- 10:41SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, I agree.
- 10:42SPEAKER_02: And Brian, I should stop to say I'm so thankful for the ways you've supported my campaign and campaign.
- 10:48SPEAKER_02: Representative Reeves Iverson,
- 10:52SPEAKER_02: That's the great part is that this has felt like a team effort.
- 10:55SPEAKER_02: And Reagan, you were one of the first podcasts I ever did on this campaign.
- 11:01SPEAKER_00: That was a long time ago.
- 11:02SPEAKER_00: That was my other podcast.
- 11:04SPEAKER_00: Sorry, Brian.
- 11:04SPEAKER_00: That was my other podcast with representatives.
- 11:07SPEAKER_01: What's that guy's name?
- 11:08SPEAKER_01: Let me draw him out.
- 11:09SPEAKER_01: What's his name?
- 11:10SPEAKER_00: Hold on.
- 11:11SPEAKER_00: Majority Leader Bowman.
- 11:13SPEAKER_00: Sorry, I'm going to get a note from him.
- 11:14SPEAKER_00: The title is super important to him.
- 11:16SPEAKER_00: He wants to make sure everybody knows.
- 11:18SPEAKER_01: We had to get him promoted so I could take over his job.
- 11:22SPEAKER_02: regularly say you know we are pulling this or we have raised this because this has
- 11:28SPEAKER_02: really felt like a team effort i think people recognize that i've had the right
- 11:31SPEAKER_02: heart in the right background to try to do something about this but i didn't have
- 11:35SPEAKER_02: any political background at all and so there's people that come around me and and
- 11:39SPEAKER_02: try to give me some jet fuel to make this happen and i think we're really on the
- 11:42SPEAKER_02: eve of maybe something really great happening on tuesday
- 11:46SPEAKER_01: Wow, that's great.
- 11:47SPEAKER_01: Well, we'll let you get back to it.
- 11:48SPEAKER_01: We just wanted to have you on for 10 or 15 minutes just to say hi and get your finish line going.
- 11:55SPEAKER_01: Power to the finish, you know, do what we can.
- 11:57SPEAKER_01: And all these, you know, Reagan and I do a bunch of the legislative races we're engaged in, involved in.
- 12:01SPEAKER_01: So we're watching numbers.
- 12:03SPEAKER_01: I'm definitely watching the statewide stuff and your campaign specifically for me.
- 12:08SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's the one that I've consistently said could be close and we got a shot at winning.
- 12:15SPEAKER_01: And the other ones just,
- 12:16SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 12:16SPEAKER_01: they haven't put the money and the effort really into the effort you have.
- 12:21SPEAKER_01: And that's the testament to you and your campaign.
- 12:24SPEAKER_02: Thank you, sir.
- 12:25SPEAKER_02: I really appreciate it.
- 12:25SPEAKER_02: Thank you both for the way you supported me.
- 12:27SPEAKER_02: I'm grateful.
- 12:28SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
- 12:29SPEAKER_01: Good luck.
- 12:30SPEAKER_02: Have a great day.
- 12:37SPEAKER_01: Hey, that was great to have him on.
- 12:38SPEAKER_01: I think it was fun.
- 12:41SPEAKER_01: And if Rayfield wants to come on and, well, I don't know if we're going to record again before Tuesday.
- 12:46SPEAKER_01: I'm sure we will.
- 12:46SPEAKER_01: We might have to have something over the weekend.
- 12:49SPEAKER_00: Brian,
- 12:49SPEAKER_00: we might need to figure out how we can do,
- 12:51SPEAKER_00: if you can set up a Zoom and then we both just call in from the parties that we're
- 12:55SPEAKER_00: at and record like 20 minutes.
- 12:56SPEAKER_00: And then I'll just power it out on the laptop because I think it'd be really fun to
- 12:59SPEAKER_00: give people a podcast episode on election night.
- 13:02SPEAKER_00: Election day.
- 13:03SPEAKER_01: Well, election day, we could probably do something that would be kind of
- 13:06SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 13:06SPEAKER_01: cause usually,
- 13:07SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 13:09SPEAKER_01: come three or four o'clock,
- 13:10SPEAKER_01: you're kind of like,
- 13:11SPEAKER_01: what are you going to do at this point anyways?
- 13:12SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 13:13SPEAKER_01: I mean,
- 13:13SPEAKER_01: isn't that,
- 13:14SPEAKER_01: it tends to be what I,
- 13:16SPEAKER_01: where I'm at on Tuesday at like three o'clock by time of doing all the other things,
- 13:21SPEAKER_01: usually I'm making sure all the bills are paid and all the stuff is done and those
- 13:25SPEAKER_01: sorts of things.
- 13:26SPEAKER_01: And yeah.
- 13:27SPEAKER_01: You know, and you feel like, well, I, I did the best I could with what I had and
- 13:32SPEAKER_01: And this is what I'm going to do.
- 13:33SPEAKER_01: What I liked about Will is, you know, I mean, he's not going to come on and trash Rayfield and Dan.
- 13:39SPEAKER_01: I think he's, you know, they've run.
- 13:41SPEAKER_01: I think he calls him, you know, the politician.
- 13:44SPEAKER_01: And he's trying to make an argument about why he's different and stuff without really just questioning.
- 13:50SPEAKER_01: hammering the other side, which I do appreciate that side of it.
- 13:54SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
- 13:55SPEAKER_01: I haven't really seen a lot of Dan stuff.
- 13:57SPEAKER_01: I know that he's kind of pushing into some of the traditional Democrat kind of,
- 14:02SPEAKER_01: uh,
- 14:02SPEAKER_01: talking points,
- 14:03SPEAKER_01: right?
- 14:03SPEAKER_01: Like abortion and some of those things, which as attorney general, I think they do probably wait.
- 14:08SPEAKER_01: I mean,
- 14:09SPEAKER_01: if you do see a federal scenario that happens in regards to an abortion ban,
- 14:13SPEAKER_01: or we take the Senate and Trump wins,
- 14:15SPEAKER_01: then maybe,
- 14:16SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
- 14:16SPEAKER_01: I mean, something could come of it.
- 14:19SPEAKER_01: Uh,
- 14:20SPEAKER_01: So the attorney general probably would engage, I would imagine, if that happened.
- 14:25SPEAKER_01: So that's one talking point I'd give him.
- 14:30SPEAKER_00: There is a lot of different suits that are both bipartisan and partisan that go
- 14:36SPEAKER_00: around all these states in the street.
- 14:38SPEAKER_00: Attorney generals decide if they are going to sign on to those.
- 14:44SPEAKER_00: And I think both for Rayfield and Lathrop—
- 14:47SPEAKER_00: whoever wins this attorney general's race are going to have to decide which of
- 14:51SPEAKER_00: these am I going to be on the partisan ones?
- 14:53SPEAKER_00: Or am I just going to be on the bipartisan ones?
- 14:55SPEAKER_00: Or am I just going to file my own suits against the federal government when I think
- 14:58SPEAKER_00: it makes sense for Oregon?
- 15:00SPEAKER_00: I think that that's going to be a huge question.
- 15:03SPEAKER_00: I'll be super interested to see how they're going to handle it.