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A Little Ditty 'bout · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: This is Teddy Teapot with Teddy Mellencamp. So you guys,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to this week's Teddy Teapod. I have a very
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  Speaker 1: special guest that I, to be perfectly honest, I never
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  Speaker 1: thought would join me, and that is my father, John Mellencamp.
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  Speaker 1: Hi Dad, Hi kids? What's going on? So? Um? I
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  Speaker 1: just have to first put this out here. Any of
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  Speaker 1: the questions that I'm about to be asking are from
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  Speaker 1: Teddy te Pod and Instagram, So anything I asked can't
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  Speaker 1: and won't be used against me. Okay, okay, so Dad,
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  Speaker 1: what area? I'll let it be uh A guest? Yeah? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: just normally do don't use my excitable boys, No, don't,
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  Speaker 1: don't don't use your interview boys. So let's just talk. Okay, fine, fine,
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  Speaker 1: but then you can't get wrapped at me. If I'm
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  Speaker 1: you know, asking something that annoys you, I just won't answer.
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  Speaker 1: Simple okay, fine? What kisses you off the most? Huh?
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  Speaker 1: What kisses you off the most? Um ingratitude? I? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: You know this. I don't like to uh. I like
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  Speaker 1: to do things for people, but I don't like them
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  Speaker 1: when they started expecting me to do things for them,
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  Speaker 1: and then you know, that my moods are always pissed
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  Speaker 1: off or mad. So I'm either in the state of
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  Speaker 1: being piste off or mad, and then maybe something a
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  Speaker 1: little higher than that. I don't know. I would say
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  Speaker 1: it's piste off mad or you're telling jokes and stories,
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  Speaker 1: which is my favorite thing about you telling what kind
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  Speaker 1: of stories? You tell the best stories? Always, I'm a songwriter.
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  Speaker 1: I'm supposed to tell stories. That people don't stand is
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  Speaker 1: that songs are not about me, their stories. Like I
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  Speaker 1: just wrote a song called I Always Like as Strangers
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  Speaker 1: and everybody that I played it for go? Is that true?
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  Speaker 1: You really do that? I went, God, damn it. It's
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  Speaker 1: the song. It's to entertain people. What is the favorite
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  Speaker 1: song you've ever written in your life. I haven't written
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  Speaker 1: that song yet. I'm still searching for that song. Do
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  Speaker 1: you have a favorite song to perform? No, not particularly, uh.
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  Speaker 1: I know that there's songs that the audience like need
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  Speaker 1: to perform, But as you know, we're not performing right
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  Speaker 1: now because of this COVID and so all uh, all
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  Speaker 1: live artists are kind of sideline right now. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we can't go out and play. I don't know when
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  Speaker 1: we'll be able to go out and play, and it
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  Speaker 1: kind of frightens me because that's all I know how
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  Speaker 1: to do is go out and play. Well, that's what
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  Speaker 1: I was going to ask, like during this time, which
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  Speaker 1: I think, no matter what business you're in, you know,
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  Speaker 1: people are going through so much chain and change, and
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  Speaker 1: some people are using that to grow, and some people
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  Speaker 1: are using that because they're in real pain and they
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  Speaker 1: don't know what to do right now in the midst
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  Speaker 1: of all of this. What's your best advice and what
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  Speaker 1: keeps you going? I think that I think that I
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  Speaker 1: try to and I know you won't believe this, but
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  Speaker 1: I try to to take this moment and learn something. Ah,
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  Speaker 1: every day by making something, you know, I paint every
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  Speaker 1: day if I'm not paying meaning I'm writing a song.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm always in the motion of creation. Uh, and
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  Speaker 1: that keeps my mind active. I think what I've discovered
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  Speaker 1: during the pandemic is that my life has not changed
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  Speaker 1: one iota except I can't go out and play and
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  Speaker 1: I can't go in the recording studio. But I'm a
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  Speaker 1: hermit and you know that. And but the difference is
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  Speaker 1: I choose to live this way. Uh. But when you're
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  Speaker 1: forced to live this way, it's a different story. So
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  Speaker 1: the idea that we have to do something, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: is annoying to me that I'm not doing anything really
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  Speaker 1: that different. I'm just not traveling as much and I'm
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  Speaker 1: not playing, and I'm not i can't go in the studio.
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  Speaker 1: But other than that, my life has changed very little.
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  Speaker 1: So what should people do? What should people do? They
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  Speaker 1: should look for the thing that can elevate them, you
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  Speaker 1: know in this time period. I'm not saying note because
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  Speaker 1: you're always painting or writing. Do you ever think that
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  Speaker 1: you'll write a book about your life. I've been asked
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  Speaker 1: to since I was in my thirties, and um, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know who would be interested in
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  Speaker 1: reading it, and I know it would be a lot
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  Speaker 1: of work. And uh, that's why I'm a songwriter and
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  Speaker 1: not a book writer. It's because you know it takes
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  Speaker 1: you know, you can write. You can write some songs
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  Speaker 1: in five minutes and in some songs take years, but
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  Speaker 1: it's not a focused concentration day after that. On the
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  Speaker 1: same thing, as you know, my attention span is short
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  Speaker 1: also that I do know, and do you think because
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  Speaker 1: of this reason, that's how you're able to keep your
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  Speaker 1: private life so private? Well I look not dead, God
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  Speaker 1: damn private. They just called me and told they just
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  Speaker 1: called and told me They're going to run a thing
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  Speaker 1: in National Enquire about me, Me and Ryan and Jamie,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, I'm so sick of this crap. Well
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  Speaker 1: who can Who cares about a sixty nine year old man?
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  Speaker 1: Apparently a lot of people, which brings me to my
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  Speaker 1: next question, which makes me fully want to dry heave.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody wants to know all about your love life. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't get it. So many women
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  Speaker 1: wrote in like tell me about the love life? Is
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  Speaker 1: he single? What kind of woman does he like? Is
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  Speaker 1: he like the older younger woman? Tell her short? I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I am gonna bar for reading these. Yeah, I would
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  Speaker 1: imagine it would be kind of uncomfortable for a child
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  Speaker 1: to be reading about their parents. A matter of fact,
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  Speaker 1: one time, when I was a kid in the sixties, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: my mom, as you know, was very attractive, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: one of our friends said to my older brother Joe,
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to have sex with your mother. And Joe
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  Speaker 1: pumps into faith you did. And Joe couldn't beat up anything,
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  Speaker 1: but it annoyed him so much that you know this
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  Speaker 1: kid would say that about you know, our mom, that
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  Speaker 1: he just haul up and hit him just I was
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  Speaker 1: standing in your island, what what's happening here? Because it
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  Speaker 1: didn't buy you know, I didn't care, but it offended Joe.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't bother me, but offended Joe. Well, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it bode too well if I went off hitting
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  Speaker 1: people that asked me about you, because give me in
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  Speaker 1: a lot of trouble. But what so what what little
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  Speaker 1: juicy tidbits can you give on your love life? And
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  Speaker 1: I'll block my ears? Uh? None, so you don't have
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  Speaker 1: to block there. There's no conversation about that. Alright, alright, fine.
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  Speaker 1: On that same token, how do you think that with
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  Speaker 1: all of the success that you've had, all of the touring,
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  Speaker 1: all of the fans, that you stayed humble and low
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  Speaker 1: key during this time. I don't know. Some people don't
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  Speaker 1: think don't don't think that about me. I mean, you know, uh,
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  Speaker 1: some people have a really bad interpretation of the way
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  Speaker 1: that I lived in things that I say because you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Teddy, I'll say anything to anybody. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: afraid to say anything to anybody. And if I have
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  Speaker 1: an opinion. I'm not afraid to voice it, and I
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  Speaker 1: understand that it's just my opinion, but I feel that
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  Speaker 1: it's our responsibility as human beings to voice our opinion
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  Speaker 1: and be individuals and not try to fall in with
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  Speaker 1: the herd and be like everybody else. Uh, Because you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm quite colorful, and I like that about myself and
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  Speaker 1: I like the fact that people who know me understand that.
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  Speaker 1: But there are people who don't get it. Do you
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  Speaker 1: think that I've become such a no at all because
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  Speaker 1: of that? Now? I think you've become such a know
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  Speaker 1: at all because you've always been such a know at all.
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  Speaker 1: I think you can out of your mother not thinking
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  Speaker 1: you knew everything? But dad, who do you call when
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  Speaker 1: you need advice? I had lots of sources. You are
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  Speaker 1: one of them. I'm just giving myself a little pat
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  Speaker 1: on the back right now. I think I'm pretty good
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  Speaker 1: at talking you through things. And I would say that
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  Speaker 1: you are my first phone call when I'm upset or
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  Speaker 1: when i'm proud. Well, you know, and that's why your
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  Speaker 1: life gets screwed up asking me. I don't know, but
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  Speaker 1: you there's something about you that you know, which I
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  Speaker 1: think is your greatest gift, even though you know you
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  Speaker 1: say your two biggest things are you know, pissed and mad,
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  Speaker 1: is that you have a way of knowing what you
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  Speaker 1: need to do in that moment to make somebody feel
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  Speaker 1: safe and to feel relaxed. Like I I, no matter
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  Speaker 1: what it was like if it was after I had
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  Speaker 1: a miscarriage or when I had such bad driving anxiety
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  Speaker 1: I like could barely drive to work, you always knew
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  Speaker 1: the right thing to say. And I like so grateful
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  Speaker 1: to that because I knew that whenever I was having
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  Speaker 1: one of my like anxiety attacks, you you could fix
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  Speaker 1: it in five minutes. Well. And the reason I was
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  Speaker 1: helped that I could be helpful is because I too
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  Speaker 1: suffered from driving driving anxiety tagged back in the in
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  Speaker 1: the early seventies, before they even had the word, you know,
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  Speaker 1: social anxiety or panic disorder. They didn't have any of
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  Speaker 1: those words or did they diagnose people with that. The
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  Speaker 1: first time I had a huge panic attack, I needed
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  Speaker 1: to go to the doctor. So my mom and my grandmother,
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  Speaker 1: Grandma law took me up to Annapolis to this specialist.
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  Speaker 1: And here was his advice, John, we need to calm down, Like, oh, thanks,
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  Speaker 1: I would have been so passed. Well, they you know,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't have anything to offer, you know, they just
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  Speaker 1: they just did in nineteen seventy seventy seventy one, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't have any information to offer, you know, of any help.
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  Speaker 1: And I went to a place called Quinco that had
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  Speaker 1: a psychologist and psychiatrists, and they were literally no help
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  Speaker 1: because they just weren't you know, people weren't having panic
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  Speaker 1: disorder particularly uh, you know in nineteen seventy they just
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  Speaker 1: they just didn't do that. They didn't know about it.
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  Speaker 1: Did they know how to deal with it? When you
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  Speaker 1: go to the specialists and the specialist advice is Tom down, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: thanks a lot. Yeah, I kind of knew that. Well.
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  Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing, and I know you've been
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  Speaker 1: so helpful with Slate and me and everything, is also
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  Speaker 1: knowing that you're not alone. And I think that the
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  Speaker 1: fact that you've been open about it and that you
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  Speaker 1: talk about it makes also gives you peace of mind
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  Speaker 1: because I know with my anxiety sometimes I think this
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  Speaker 1: only happens to me, and nobody could possibly understand what
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  Speaker 1: I'm going through in this moment. But when you have
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  Speaker 1: somebody that can relate to you and say, you know
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  Speaker 1: this happened to me. It helps you. Yeah, And plus
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  Speaker 1: you know since nine seventy and that's the overstimulation that
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  Speaker 1: lived with the new society. And I suppose all societies
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  Speaker 1: when we get so much information. And it wasn't like
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  Speaker 1: that when I was a kid, because you know, I
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  Speaker 1: had no idea what was going on with me. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I had never nobody had ever spoke to me about anxiety.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know. I thought I was dying and it
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  Speaker 1: was for years. It was crippling. I'll tell you a
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  Speaker 1: quick story. I was us to go ah induct Pete Seeger.
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  Speaker 1: You probably don't know who that is, but he's a
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  Speaker 1: real famous old folk singer. And he was in the
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  Speaker 1: Weavers and he wrote where have all the Flowers Gone?
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  Speaker 1: And he wrote if I had Hannah, And I was
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  Speaker 1: asked to them to the Kennedy Center, and he was
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  Speaker 1: getting the Kennedy Award and I was looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 1: And I had talked with Pete and he was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he was an old man, I thought, you know, for me,
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  Speaker 1: I was in my thirties and early thirties maybe, And
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  Speaker 1: uh so the day of the the day I was
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  Speaker 1: supposed to fly to Washington, d C. I couldn't go.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I didn't he couldn't go. I couldn't leave
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  Speaker 1: the house. And I had to call up. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I thought, oh, I'll get over and I'll get over,
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  Speaker 1: but I couldn't get over. So I had to call
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  Speaker 1: up like when I was supposed to get on the
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  Speaker 1: plane and say guys, I can't good And I really,
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  Speaker 1: uh looked back on that and thought little loss for
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  Speaker 1: me not being able to induct Pete figured into the
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  Speaker 1: Kennedy Honors, uh, because I didn't know how to get
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  Speaker 1: over myself and to learn how to deal with the anxiety.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, like I said, obviously my thirties when
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  Speaker 1: it's happened. So I saw Pete and he brought it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Pete ended up playing the fun made before
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  Speaker 1: he died, and I talked to him for a minute.
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  Speaker 1: He asked me, be goes, what happened that day, you know,
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  Speaker 1: thirty years ago or forty years ago, whatever it was.
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  Speaker 1: And I told him so he understood. But it's still,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I still a kind of regretful that that
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  Speaker 1: that that that happ city. I was so bad at
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  Speaker 1: one time with anxiety that I could not drive. I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't leave the house. Uh. If I had to leave
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  Speaker 1: the house, even to go to my parents house, I
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  Speaker 1: would time it in time how long I was going
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  Speaker 1: to be gone, and how many miles it was, and
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  Speaker 1: how long it's gonna take me to get home because
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  Speaker 1: home was my safe place. Right, It's crazy, you know
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  Speaker 1: you how have you gotten through it? Because it has
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  Speaker 1: gotten significantly better. Oh yeah, I'm not. I'm I hardly
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  Speaker 1: ever have it. The only time I have it is
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  Speaker 1: it is it's I'm if I get into a dark
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  Speaker 1: state of mind and all of a sudden I can
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  Speaker 1: feel it coming on. And now they have a drug
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  Speaker 1: called zan X and whenever I feel that feeling, I
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  Speaker 1: just take a half of zann X and it goes away.
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  Speaker 1: So they have medicine for this. But you know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't encourage anybody taking zanex on a recreational and a
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  Speaker 1: red creational way. But uh, you know it's a miracle
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  Speaker 1: drug and has been for me because I use it properly,
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  Speaker 1: right which and I use it and I use it
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  Speaker 1: very rarely. And you also exercise and do things that
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  Speaker 1: you love. I mean, I know for me, just moving
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  Speaker 1: helps me, being outside, seeing fresh air, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: working on things that I care about. Well, there's an
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  Speaker 1: old saying, and I used to tell myself this when
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  Speaker 1: I was younger, the idol, your idol mind is the
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  Speaker 1: devil's playground, and you're going to get yourself in trouble.
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  Speaker 1: John sitting around your feeling sorry for yourself. So that's
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  Speaker 1: America's number one patch. Time's feeling soccer for themselves. I know,
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm going through that a little myself. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out like my next step in
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  Speaker 1: my life, and like my all in business is good,
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  Speaker 1: my family is good. We've just moved into this new house.
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  Speaker 1: Like I should be feeling so happy, but there's this
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  Speaker 1: uneasy feeling that I'm having, and like I've had. I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to do a lot of work on myself right now,
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  Speaker 1: like a lot of reading and listening to podcasts and
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  Speaker 1: praying and like trying to figure out what my next
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  Speaker 1: step is, and that that not knowing feeling has almost
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  Speaker 1: left me like paralyzed. Here's the thing, there's no reward
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  Speaker 1: in this world for U or much of anything. Um.
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  Speaker 1: If you take a step back and you're globally at yourself, uh,
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  Speaker 1: and you ask yourself, why do I need these things?
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  Speaker 1: Why do I even care about these things? Which is
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  Speaker 1: where I'm at in my life. I don't care. You know,
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  Speaker 1: having style or having being an individual is having an opinion,
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  Speaker 1: not afraid to to voice your opinion, and not being
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  Speaker 1: like everybody else. And that's that's how I. You know,
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  Speaker 1: that's how I what I've learned. And it seems simple,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not. You know, a lot of people say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I need to I'm still trying to find myself. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, you know, you don't need to find yourself.
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  Speaker 1: You're not lost. You need to invent yourself. And the
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  Speaker 1: fact that you're worried about, you know, with all the
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  Speaker 1: things that you've got and things that you've done in
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  Speaker 1: your life, Teddy, I don't even know why you care.
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  Speaker 1: What do you care? You know? What do you care
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  Speaker 1: if you have a podcast? What do you care if
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  Speaker 1: you're you know, because you know, you're still young enough
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  Speaker 1: to have ambitions, but you can't let ambitions overshadow what
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  Speaker 1: you've already got. So you know, there's a movie called
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  Speaker 1: called Keen lar Ago and there's a conversation between Bogard.
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  Speaker 1: If Bogard and uh, what's his name Edvar g Robinson
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  Speaker 1: and Evor g Robinson is a gangster. And he goes
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  Speaker 1: he says, he goes, yeah, he goes, I I always
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  Speaker 1: just get what I want. And then Bogard goes, well,
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  Speaker 1: have you ever got have you what is it you want?
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  Speaker 1: He goes, well, I want more? And he goes and
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  Speaker 1: then Bogart goes, well have you have you ever gotten more?
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  Speaker 1: And he goes, no, I guess I haven't. He goes,
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  Speaker 1: how do you know? How how are you gonna know
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  Speaker 1: when you get enough? He goes, well, I'll never get enough.
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  Speaker 1: And so it's like a vicious cycle. You know, whoever
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  Speaker 1: wrote Key Largo, you know, back in the fifties, I
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  Speaker 1: knew what we're talking about already. You know, already had
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  Speaker 1: experience to what we're talking about now. Uh is that
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's there's no reward for uh for oneting more.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's just a place marker. You know.
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  Speaker 1: In your own mind, you're like, oh, I've got to
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  Speaker 1: do this, and I've got to ask you that, No,
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  Speaker 1: you don't. Because if you and I were standing in
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  Speaker 1: the backyard at my house and he took a picture
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  Speaker 1: from outer space at Bloomington, they wouldn't see us. So
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  Speaker 1: my point is is that at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: we're only on this earth for a small amount I
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  Speaker 1: mean minuscule amount of time, and to waste your time
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  Speaker 1: worried about where what comes you know, what comes next.
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  Speaker 1: Just let what comes next come next. It will come,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it'll show up. And you've got to be
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: small even as a young guy. How did you persevere
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: after like a rejection? I never talked about that. I
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: h teddy you know me. You know, somebody tells me
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: something like that. I don't give you. You know, I
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: never cared what my parents thought of me. I never
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: cared about what the teachers and school thought about From
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: the beginning of my life, I've never really cared what
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: people thought. And I truly A lot of people say that,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: but I truly don't. I mean sometimes I didn't. This
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: is not fair. Sometimes I get annoyed by what people think.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I just I'll
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: just say this, I don't know why you're so thinking
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: about me all the time, because I never think of you. Well.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: On that that we have to take a little break,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: but we'll come back and talk about family. And some
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: other things we need to dig into. So these are
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the family related questions, which I already of the answer
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: to this first one, obviously, who's your favorite child? I
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: don't And that's not a fair question. I know, I
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: know that you're gonna thank you. I think kids have
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: you five kids? Uh, kids that make an effort. And
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I'm just talking globally. I'm not talking about about us,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: our family, but just globally, kids that make an effort
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: to stay in contact with their parents, which I did not.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I did not, and that's one thing I wish I
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: would have done, but I didn't do it. The kids
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: who stay in contact with their parents come into favor,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: and they don't always stay there. But you know, I
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: look at all five of you kids, and I I
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: am proud of all five of your kids. And so
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: now you know, like you know your sister, uh, Justice,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I probably talked to her more than any of the
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: other kids. But because she you know, she calls, and
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: you know she has Dodo and I love talking to Dodo.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I'm texting her right now. Kiss up, just not kissing.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: It's called having humility and uh and uh, like I
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: call my dad now he's eighty nine, I called Grandpa
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: all the time. I'm making a point to call him
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: at least three times a week. Well, he's really good
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: about reaching out too. He texted me all the time
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: every holiday and he like he's like it's a Wednesday,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: he'll send me a Bible Verse, like he's really good
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: about keeping in contact too. Well, he you know, I
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: think that's that that I've learned from that, And I
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: think that's that I wish I would have known that
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: when I was your age, because he knows there's only
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: he's only got. You know, when you're a nine years old,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: you know, you don't have more more days in front
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: of the horse than behind the horse. So he's the
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: only guy that he's racing to the end, and he
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: wants to make sure that he stays in contact and
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: that he that he is remembered in a certain way,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: and and that he can pass on any help that
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: he that he could possibly give you. And so you know,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I make sure that I call bad at least three
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: times a week about no matter where, no matter where
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I'm at. Yeah, that's good. And you're also good at
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: talking on the phone, which not everybody is. It's not
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: my best. That's a problem for me because if I
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: am dealing, we'll talk about girls for a second. If
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I talked to a girl on the phone and she
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: can't phone talk, and I don't really want to go
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: out like that. It's girl cave and talking and she's
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: going to go out and gonna have to talking phone
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: because you know, I'm not going to go see here.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: So yeah, everybody keeps doing, oh is he gonna? Would
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: he ever moved to l A? I'm like, Uh, it's
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: hard enough to get you to come visit in l A. No,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like. I mean, that's something I
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: don't like l A. But I just don't like the
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: culture out there, and I don't like. I know some
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: people love it and I understand it. I appreciate it,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: but for me, it's just not for me. It's uh,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: it's uh, it's a dream killing town. Ah. You know,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: so many kids go out there with big dreams and
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: and and work real hard and and nothing comes of it,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: you know, and some succeed and some don't. Success walks
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: hand in hand with failure down Hollywood. Yeah, that's true.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: And it comes and goes very quickly. Yep. It does
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: what quality and all of your kids. I mean, just
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: in general, what quality and your kids make you most proud,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Like something that you know about all of us that
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: we all have. What would you say it is? Um,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I think that what makes me the most proud of
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: the kids, all of them, is when you guys stand
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: up for yourself and not allow to be manipulated or
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: pushed around or you know. HUD's the best example. You know.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: He came home he was little and said, kids are
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: picking on me, And I said, well, you gotta do
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: something about it. So he learned how to fight and
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: box and and talk. I mean, Hud is a good talker.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: You know, he can really talk and he can talk
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: himself out of a mess or else he can not
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: talk himself. He has choices. You can need to punch
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: you in the face and not worry about it, or
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: he can he can talk his way out of it. Uh.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: And that is handy, you know when you start, uh,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: you know, getting into the world of working. Oh though,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I don't you know, I don't know. I was like,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know about punching, But I
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: guess in a a sense of being able to stand
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: up for yourself and having the confidence to know that
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: you can protect well. When I say when I say punching, well,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: in his case, you know he'll punch you. That's why
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is a lot of a dicey. Well,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: it's not dicey. It's just like you know, in the
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: world that he lives in, it's acceptably you know, he's
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: part of that world. You know, when you're twenty five
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: years old and you're going to nightclubs and before the COVID,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: you know, when you're going to nightclubs and you're doing this,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: you know you're you're looking for trouble. Nothing good happens
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: in this world past midnight. Always it's time to come home.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: It's midnight. Now it's gonna start getting dirty. So and
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I know because I grew up playing in nightclubs. You know,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I'm a barroom singer. That's how I started out. I
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: sang in bars and since I was thirteen years old,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: and I see what happens to people after midnight. They
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: fucking nutch. Well, you know also why the reason I'm
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: crazy about being late is from you, Right, Do you
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: remember the story that has scarred me for life on
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: why I'm always on time? No? So we were in
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Hilton Head and I got my back. In these days,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: we could just ride our bikes to you know wherever
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: and say we're gonna be back at a certain time,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: so I would left the house. I was like probably twelve,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: and I said I'm gonna go to the barn for
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: a couple of hours. And I didn't have any concept
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: of time or wear a watch or check the time
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: or anything like that. And I remember, probably like ten
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: hours later, I saw you like peeling into the barn
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh no, and you just gave
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: me the look and like put your hand like come here,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: and I got off the pony, like ran to the car.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: You didn't speak to me the whole way home we
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: got there. I don't know if i'lting allowed to mention
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: who was at the dinner table, but at the time
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: they were like a very big celebrity couple. And you
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: took away my birthday. That doesn't sound like me, Yes
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: you did. You took away my birthday and you said
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: it in front of everybody. Ah that I but you
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: know what, it's equality. I really love about myself, But
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: I still wish that you hadn't taken away my birthday
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: that time. Well, I don't know if you know it, Titty,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: but you can't really take away somebody's birthday. And I
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: hate to spoil it for your listeners and you, but
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: it's not an easter bunny. Well you think you could? Um,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: how would you describe me in three words? Ah? I
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: love you? No characteristics? Uh? Well, I'm glad you took
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: the compliment. So well, well, I think you know what
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: you know. I love you too, daddy. Um, don't you
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: have to get back with me on that? All right?
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: So now, uh, these ones you're really gonna love. But
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: we have to ask a couple of Real Housewives questions.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: So let's take a little break and then we'll come
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: back and ask those. Now we're back, is gonna be
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: your favorite part of the episode? Dad, I can feel
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: it already. Are you glad that I'm no longer a
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: part of Real Housewives? Yes? I am terribly excited and
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: happy that you are no longer part of Real Housewives.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I never liked that you're on Real Housewives. I tried
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: to be supportive, so I watched, but I can assure
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: you I don't watch anymore. Um. I think that it's
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: great and I think that some of those women on
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: the show are fantastic and ah, but I don't like
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: people to know where I'm at. I don't like people
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: to know what I'm doing. I like to have privacy.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: That's why I stick around. You know my properties, and
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: don't go anywhere I don't want to be part of
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: of ah, you know where everybody knows everything about everybody.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I don't like it, and I don't know how you
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: stood it. And I was glad that you were enjoying
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: it when you were doing it, but I'm glad you're
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: not on it. Do you have a favorite housewife? This
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: isn't a loaded question, this is just do you have one?
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: It's a loaded question, but no. But I do respect
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: all of these girls are doing and even the ones
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: that you didn't like. You know, there's a certain like, Wow,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: you enjoy putting your life out. What people can look
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: at it, ridicule it, judge it unfairly, and you don't
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: seem to mind, so that there's a certain strength in that.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I think that I would not want to develop or
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: be part of. And what I don't need. I don't
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: even like doing interviews, I know, which is why I'm
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: shocked that you're here, and then what do you think, Petty,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I'm only here because you're I'm only here because you're
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: my daughter. If you were my daughter, you know, anybody
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: else call me and asked me to be honest podcast
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: and you know what the answer is, no, I know.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: And when I asked you, I really asked you kind
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: of in a laughing way. And I remember Cruise was
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: in the car with me when I asked and I
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: got off the phone, and you know, Cruise like just
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: gets things. I don't know how at his age, but
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: he looks at me and he goes, you didn't think
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: your dad would say yes, did you? And I said
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't and he goes, well, people loves you, and
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: he said yeah because he wants to be there for you.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I like cheer it up.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I was like, you're right, Cruise. So I am really
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: grateful for you taking the time to do this with me.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: This is exactly right. Yeah, So I am grateful and uh,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: the Final Housewives questions so we can move on from
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: that and officially move on from that part forever. Um,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: do you what did you think of Kyle and my friendship?
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know why This is such a popular question,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: but I guess a lot of people either loved it
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: or had a lot to say about it. What do
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: you think about it? I would say that, quite honestly,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: people who comment on your friendships none of your business.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Why can't tell a little bit more you and me?
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: It's just none of your business? And uh, you know
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: what a good Why don't you be a good neighbor?
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: And here's I'll tell anybody that's listening what a good
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: neighbor is. Do you mind your business? All my mind
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: business will get along just fine. And if you need help,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: you can call on me and if I can mend helping,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: and I will, but only if I can. I'm not
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: going to get involved in your drama if I can't
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: be helpful. So why don't we all just be good neighbors?
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Can mind our own bucking business. Yep, So write that down, guys,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: get a pen and paper. Next time you want to
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: be keyboard warriors, go for it. Um. So the final
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: topic that of course people have a million questions on
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: is music. So I'm just gonna do some rapid fire
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: dream collaboration. If you could record something with any other musician,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: who would it be well, he's dead, but it would
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: be what he got through. Wow, biggest celebrity or however
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: you want to say, artists, friends that you have, like
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: a mentor even hate mentioned in his name. But just dude,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: it's just us, Dad. Yeah, all right, why don't you
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: just answer it? Is it? Bruce Springsteen? Yeah, that's what
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: I thought. UM, first concert you ever went to? UM
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven and I went to see Steppenwolf and
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: The Beach Board the Beach Boys. Um, When will you
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: be releasing more music soon? I'm we're in the middle,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: not in the middle of We're almost done with the
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: documentary and an album called The Good Samaritan Tour in nineteen.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: In the year two thousands, I had just completed the
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: big worldwide tour and was very successful, and I wanted
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: to get back to the audience. So I decided me
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: in the Lane to head inspect and two young musicians,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: and we went and played on street corners all across
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: America for free at noon. I stole the idea from
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: what he got to used to go play in the
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: fields for the workers in the thirties, and he would
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: just show up and sing to them while they were working.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: So people don't work in the fields thing, or they do,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: but not the majority of people. Uh. Farming was like
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: the biggest way of making a living back then, but
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: now in two thousand, everybody worked in big buildings. So
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: we would go downtown unannounced, set up and play for
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: free during people's lunch breaks. And we started out in
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I think, uh now maybe Philadelphia, boss, I can't remember,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: uh and unannounced and eight hundred people showed up. They went, oh,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: look at John Mellencamp. John Mellencamp playing on the street
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: crent like a street musician. And then by the time
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: that we got Chicago, uh in, the internet had just
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: started in two thousand, cell phones were just starting to
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: get popular. I set it up in Chicago at Daily
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Plaza and we had twenty thousand people show up. Well,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: we made a documentary about to get it. We called
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: it to get Samarritan to it, because when did you
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: realize you could start using your voice for social issues.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I never really looked at it like that. I always
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: just kind of thought that I would write about things
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: that I was interested in, and its people interpreted what
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I was writing as social issues, then so be it.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: But once again, I'll repeat myself because I still to
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: this day I have to say that, m M. You
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: know these songs I've had over four hundred songs published,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: they're not about me. You can't write four songs about
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: a guy who don't leave the house and just paish.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: It's not that interesting. It's just songs are meant to
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: entertain people. They're not about you. Know. Of course, you
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: know there's some songs that I've written that I have
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: some of me in it. But like I said, I
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: just wrote a song called I Always Lie to Strangers
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: and I played it for a couple of people, like, well,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: they are you telling me the truth? And it was
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: just like, it's a song. It's meant to entertain you,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: it's meant to make you think, it's meant to make
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: you dance. Whatever the song is, you know, it's not
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: about me all the time. So do you think that
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: what makes you a great songwriter? Than is that just
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: having a vivid imagination and being creative or what do
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: you think it is? I don't consider myself a great songwriter.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I consider myself struggling songwriter because writing songs is always
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: a struggle. It's it's hard, it's harder than people think,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can write, and I think anybody can
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: become a songwriter. But there's a difference between writing a
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: song and writing a really good song. And a really
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: good song doesn't necessarily mean that it's popular. It just
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: means that it's a really good song. I mean, Mike
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Elvis Gus Tella wrote a song called almost Blue, and
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: I heard that and I thought that I'm glitting. I
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: can never write a song that's good. You know, Blue
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: is so good, so good. You know, Dylan has written songs,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: and it's kind of like, you know, when I first
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: started out. I'm just making a record down in Miami
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: at a place called I can rename the studio anymore.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: But the Eagles were in the studio next to me
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: making your record, and they were recording an album called
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Hotel California, which became huge success. And I used to
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: walk by their session and I could hear Hotel California,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: and then I walked back into my session. In my ear,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I need to love her, and I like the way
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: ahead of me. You know, I'm writing that little song here,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: and these guys are writing a song called Oto California
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: and Life in the Past Lane, which both became tremendously
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: big kids pus God and that was like a great record,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: and I was making a record. You know, well, I
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: still I still like that song for the record. Do
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: you have a most embarrassing story? Uh, you know, I
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: don't get embarrassed very easy. Well, I have the most
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: embarrassing story that involves you. Do you remember when you
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: were on tour with Bob Dylan and I didn't know that,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Like you give him fist pumps, like that's how he
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: says hi, And I went, You introduced me to him,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: and he like when it put his hand out to
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  Speaker 1: fist pump me and I shook his paw. Well, I'm
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: sure knowing Bob and I like Bob, and Bob blacks
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: me when we get along with it. I'm sure that
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: he gets that quite a bit. It's not knowing how
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  Speaker 1: to react to him, because you know, of all of
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  Speaker 1: my generation, you know, he is you know, he is
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: considered and he is the best songwriter the whole rock
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: and roll folk generation. You know that Paton was handed
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: from what he got through you to Bob, and then
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Bob took it and made more out of it than
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: what he could have ever dreamed. Bob is a true artist.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: I bet you right now Bob is in California where
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: he lives on Point whatever that place is. I bet
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: he's making something right now. Yeah, well you're always making
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: something too. What do you think in your lifetime you're
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: the most proud of h I don't know. I don't really.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't understand this word pride. Yeah, and
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: I don't make people have asked me this question before.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: I don't really understand the question pride. I never I
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: never do anything to be proud. I only do it
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  Speaker 1: to do the work. You know, if it turns out
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: people like it, great. But you know, I'm always onto
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: the next thing. I'm always you know, I'm I'm always
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: onto the next thing. I don't take time. I remember
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: when I had my first number one record. I was
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: married to your mom, and uh, they called me and said, John,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: your records number one, your album's number one, and your
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: singles number one. And I walked out on the porch
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: at you know where we lived, and I lived up
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: a cigarette and I went and that was it. Do
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: you think that we're all like put on this earth
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  Speaker 1: for a purpose, and like yours was to do this
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: or do you think, do you believe in that or now?
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: People have free will to do whatever they want. And
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: I don't believe in predestination. I don't believe in there's
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: only one person in this world for me to love.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I don't believe any of that stuff. I believe in
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of the first sight, and I believe that
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: that that can happen. But you know, no, I don't
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: think there was a reason. Everybody has free choice, which
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: makes it different than animals. They have free choice to
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: become an invent who we are and who we want
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: to be. And it's I think it's only fair to
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: also say that you have to remember there's really no
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: legacy in this world. People to play for the legacy
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: they keep, you know, particularly people my age, so worried
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: about the legacy, and I think to myself, there's no legacy.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: What are you talking about. You know, you might have
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: a song that you'll remember that people will remember, but
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: they won't remember you doing it. They'll just remember this song,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: and then that song will go away after a few generations,
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  Speaker 1: and then I'll never remember. My great great grandpa I
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: don't remember, and he came here from Germany. He made
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: quite a track you know, came here from Germany, married
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: a black woman and they didn't speak the same life,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: which but they coexisted together. But I don't know, I
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: don't you know. That's about all I know by that's
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: his legacy. It's all I can say it in two sentences,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: and that's my family. I can ask you, do you
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: know who Benny Goodman is? Teddy and I don't. Okay, Well,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Benny Goodman was like a big band leader, and he
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: was as big as the Beatles for his time period,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: and that was just a few generations ago. And you
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  Speaker 1: don't know any Goodman is. You can't sing one song
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: or I'm one melody if any Goodman play, he was huge.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Oh nation, the nation was standing. And to Benny Goodman,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: thank you for the visual. Well, speaking of humming one song,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I have one final request, and no it's not to sing.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Jack and Diane are hurt so good. But my favorite
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: memories of my entire life with you, and you know
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: this is when we would be driving in the car
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: and you'd sing me paper Moon. We sing one line
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  Speaker 1: of it, say it's only a paper moon, bucome over
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: a cardboard tea, but it wouldn't be make body, you body,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: you didn't me? There you go. Oh, I love your dad.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on. I really really
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. And if you guys have any questions for us,
• 47:15
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• 47:18
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• 47:21
  Speaker 1: hold on for one second. I got one statement. Anybody
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: who's listening, I don't really care what you're saying, so
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: don't bother writing in and being negative because it's falling
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