Latest / The Cryptid Huntress / It Took the Baby! Tennessee's Pity Pat Hollow & Bigfoot Graves with Bruce Brown
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- 1:00Speaker 1: Is everybody okay?
- 1:01Speaker 2: Today?
- 1:02Speaker 1: Is everyone okay? This eclipse season has me looking real
- 1:05Speaker 1: crazy today, y'all? Just kidding, I know, those are the
- 1:08Speaker 1: worst classes I can find. Did anyone lose gravity? Has
- 1:12Speaker 1: anyone lost gravity? I am tied to my chair today,
- 1:16Speaker 1: and I hope you guys are too. Where we fly
- 1:19Speaker 1: by the seat of our pants, y'all over here on
- 1:22Speaker 1: the Cryptin Hunters Channel. I hope everybody's having a wonderful day.
- 1:25Speaker 1: And uh. And we are about to experience an eclipse
- 1:29Speaker 1: today and several other celestial events in the sky today.
- 1:33Speaker 1: If there's any day to look up, it's today. And uh.
- 1:37Speaker 1: And also I guess floating up too. I don't think
- 1:41Speaker 1: anyone lost gravity. I think that was a pile of crap, okay,
- 1:45Speaker 1: and uh, and I think that's for the best for
- 1:47Speaker 1: all of us. And so we're here today, and like
- 1:51Speaker 1: I said, I hope everybody's doing okay. All right. We're
- 1:54Speaker 1: going to survive this day together, everybody. And of course
- 1:57Speaker 1: I have a fantastic show for you guys. We have
- 2:00Speaker 1: Brown here in the studio with us today and we're
- 2:03Speaker 1: going to get into some interesting creatures out of Tennessee. Today.
- 2:07Speaker 1: The Tennessee's Pity Pat. If you guys heard of the
- 2:10Speaker 1: Pity Pat, it's brand new to me. But we're going
- 2:13Speaker 1: to take a dive into that. It took a baby. Okay,
- 2:17Speaker 1: back in the eighteen sixties and people still still report
- 2:21Speaker 1: this thing to this day. Now. Is it a feline humanoid?
- 2:26Speaker 1: Is it a wampus cat? Is it a black panther?
- 2:29Speaker 1: Is it a dog man? Is it a bigfoot? I
- 2:32Speaker 1: don't know. We're going to ask Bruce what he thinks today.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Some people think it is an apparition and that's all
- 2:37Speaker 1: it is, but I think it could be maybe it's
- 2:39Speaker 1: all of them. Who knows, Okay, but we're going to
- 2:42Speaker 1: get into that. Also, Bruce has been up exploring some
- 2:45Speaker 1: caves up in Tennessee lately. We've got some video of
- 2:48Speaker 1: some bigfoot graves and some pigmy graves as well today
- 2:52Speaker 1: that Bruce has taken and we're going to get into
- 2:54Speaker 1: that later in the show. We're also going to talk
- 2:57Speaker 1: about some of these celestial alignments, and I don't know,
- 3:00Speaker 1: we may talk about some snakes today as well. You
- 3:03Speaker 1: guys want to talk about snakes. I got a cool
- 3:06Speaker 1: video you'll want to see it and we'll watch that too,
- 3:09Speaker 1: So buckle up, buttercups, don't let the gravity take you off,
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- 3:46Speaker 1: and for everybody in the chats. Y'all are awesome. By
- 3:49Speaker 1: the way, I got to go on Old Line Cryptids
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- 4:04Speaker 1: a good time. Shout out to all the guys Old
- 4:05Speaker 1: Line Cryptids, thanks for having me. Okay, well, on this
- 4:10Speaker 1: episode of a Glitch in the Matrix, we have Bruce Brown. Here,
- 4:14Speaker 1: we're going to discuss the most terrifying real life creatures
- 4:18Speaker 1: lurking in the shadows of East Tennessee in the Smoky Mountains,
- 4:22Speaker 1: particularly in what locals call Pitty Pat Hollow. A creature
- 4:26Speaker 1: has haunted that area since the eighteen sixties, with the
- 4:29Speaker 1: first reported account including an overt turned horse drawn carriage
- 4:33Speaker 1: accident and the kidnapping of an infant child. This thing
- 4:39Speaker 1: is known as the Pity Pat. Most people who have
- 4:43Speaker 1: seen the Pitypat describe it as a creature having cat
- 4:46Speaker 1: like features, while some refer to it as a spirit
- 4:49Speaker 1: of a young woman. Some others call it an imp.
- 4:52Speaker 1: You'll know what to mp is right. Nonetheless, dreaded apparitions
- 4:56Speaker 1: and flesh and bone creatures haunt this heavily wooded region,
- 5:00Speaker 1: striking tear into locals and travelers to this day. We're
- 5:03Speaker 1: going to talk about this history of the area, along
- 5:07Speaker 1: with the encounters that people have with a Pity Pat
- 5:10Speaker 1: and more. We're also going to talk about these graves
- 5:15Speaker 1: that Bruce has been exploring, and we're going to get
- 5:17Speaker 1: into these celestial events from today April not April, it's
- 5:22Speaker 1: August August twelfth. Bruce is a former law enforcement officer
- 5:27Speaker 1: from Tennessee who's had multiple intense dog man encounters. He
- 5:30Speaker 1: served as a patrolman, deputy sheriff, Sergeant of Patrols, detective,
- 5:34Speaker 1: and chief of Narcotics. His professional background exposed him to
- 5:39Speaker 1: calls on bigfoot and dog man encounters. He had his
- 5:42Speaker 1: first dog man encounter while he was hunting. He observed
- 5:45Speaker 1: one from a tree stand, and then a couple of
- 5:47Speaker 1: years later he had an intense encounter while gensen hunting.
- 5:50Speaker 1: And he's also held a baby dog man puppy, if
- 5:55Speaker 1: you want to call it that. And of course you
- 5:57Speaker 1: can find Bruce over on the Crypti Regular podcast. I
- 6:00Speaker 1: see Daniel in the chat was up. Larry's usually in
- 6:03Speaker 1: here too with the Crypted Regular podcasts, and over on
- 6:06Speaker 1: Bigfoot believers and other creatures on Facebook. Please help me.
- 6:10Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, mister Bruce Brown.
- 6:13Speaker 2: Hey, Bruce, Hey, everybody hires, everybody.
- 6:15Speaker 1: Doing I'm holding it down, holding it floated away.
- 6:19Speaker 2: Everybody's staying grounded. When I went to get out of
- 6:22Speaker 2: the bed earlier today, I come up quite a bit
- 6:24Speaker 2: easier than normal, So I guess I got a little
- 6:27Speaker 2: gravity pull little gravity.
- 6:31Speaker 1: Oh my god, the gravity holds weight. Yes, I'm just
- 6:34Speaker 1: glad none of us floated away. We have right now
- 6:37Speaker 1: during the show today, I believe we're going to be
- 6:39Speaker 1: having an eclipse that's going to happen. I don't think
- 6:42Speaker 1: we're going to see it in Georgia, probably, but I
- 6:46Speaker 1: do I think you might see it in tennessee it
- 6:48Speaker 1: depending upon how far north you are. Bruce, let me
- 6:51Speaker 1: pull up a chart. This is compliments of GARYL from
- 6:54Speaker 1: Midwest Night Watchers. He sent me this. It says this
- 6:58Speaker 1: is central time actually going across the US. Yeah, it's
- 7:02Speaker 1: gonna go right past Tennessee right there around was that
- 7:06Speaker 1: two o'clock somewhere between like one to like three something.
- 7:11Speaker 1: Probably it would be your best time to see it
- 7:14Speaker 1: Central time, Central time. So that's gonna be yeah, I
- 7:18Speaker 1: guess probably during the show today. So yeah, you guys
- 7:22Speaker 1: check it out and uh and see if you're going
- 7:24Speaker 1: to be able to see the eclipse today, and uh
- 7:27Speaker 1: and be sure you wear your glasses. Maybe not this
- 7:29Speaker 1: kind get you some good glasses, okay, but but yeah, Bruce,
- 7:33Speaker 1: what how have you been and what have you been
- 7:35Speaker 1: up to?
- 7:37Speaker 2: Uh? I went to the conference and Mick Benbell. Of
- 7:40Speaker 2: course I've been doing good. I twisted my ankle, so
- 7:43Speaker 2: I had to lip around the conference. I didn't get
- 7:45Speaker 2: to get to everybody's boost because I had spraying my ankle,
- 7:50Speaker 2: but uh, I got we hung out. I got to
- 7:54Speaker 2: hang out with Daryl H Daniel Cahoun from the uh
- 8:04Speaker 2: Magical Journey, H Scott Hunt, Billy Howe. It's just the
- 8:12Speaker 2: list goes on and on. And then me and MIMK
- 8:15Speaker 2: sat down and had a frame by frame on his
- 8:19Speaker 2: uh Patty pim which we come up with some new
- 8:24Speaker 2: things that were not previously spotted in it, and we
- 8:29Speaker 2: had a good time.
- 8:31Speaker 1: Oh can you tell me? Can you give me a
- 8:33Speaker 1: clue as to what you guys spotted?
- 8:36Speaker 2: He had a there was a flash in two two frames, okay,
- 8:43Speaker 2: uh some suspected it was a gun flash from a
- 8:46Speaker 2: gun barrel. And then after uh me studying it, I
- 8:52Speaker 2: realized that the flash wasn't from a gun from my
- 8:55Speaker 2: privous my previous law enforcement experience as a detective. And
- 9:02Speaker 2: then when I've got when I got to watching into
- 9:06Speaker 2: the woods above Patty, I spotted a big boot there
- 9:10Speaker 2: and the flash was coming from the big boot's hand.
- 9:13Speaker 2: And then with more study on it and asking m
- 9:20Speaker 2: K what kind of minerals and stuff was there, and
- 9:23Speaker 2: he told me it was a gold and quartz. So
- 9:29Speaker 2: I was able to determine that what this big boot
- 9:31Speaker 2: was holding in his hand that caused that flash of
- 9:35Speaker 2: light as the camera panned and lined up right in
- 9:41Speaker 2: line pacifically in line, that that flash was actually from
- 9:45Speaker 2: a quartz rock it was holding in its hand.
- 9:49Speaker 1: It's just like me. It takes quartz rocks everywhere.
- 9:52Speaker 2: Yep.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, no way. Wow.
- 9:57Speaker 2: So then after he showed me, uh, the satchel that
- 10:03Speaker 2: she was carrying, I was able to determine that that
- 10:08Speaker 2: was her medicine bag. She's a shaman. She had the
- 10:13Speaker 2: scap lock on her hair which was identical to the
- 10:18Speaker 2: one that chased me in the truck that time. So
- 10:27Speaker 2: in that in her satchel was able to determine. I
- 10:31Speaker 2: was able to determine that it had a shoulder strap
- 10:35Speaker 2: and that she was only holding keeping her left hand
- 10:38Speaker 2: hid to steady the pouch that she was carrying the satchel.
- 10:46Speaker 2: And then and then m K told me that some
- 10:52Speaker 2: Russian scientists was the ones that found that satchel, but
- 10:57Speaker 2: they thought she was carrying it. And then after we
- 10:59Speaker 2: discussed it. It was pretty clear that she was just guiding
- 11:02Speaker 2: it with her hand to keep it hidden down by
- 11:05Speaker 2: her far side, which would have been her left side.
- 11:09Speaker 1: Wow, if that, if that is a piece of courts
- 11:12Speaker 1: that is in her You said, it's in Patty's hand, right.
- 11:15Speaker 2: No, No, it's in another one's hand. It's one that
- 11:18Speaker 2: that was up in the woods right above Patty and Uh.
- 11:22Speaker 2: You could see it move and clearly tell it was
- 11:25Speaker 2: a uh they like to the Yakimo would like to
- 11:29Speaker 2: like them called it uh. Forced people skept in uh.
- 11:36Speaker 2: And then he had one in another frame. That was
- 11:42Speaker 2: a set of frames that we watched and studied each frame,
- 11:45Speaker 2: and as we got to each frame, you've seen what
- 11:47Speaker 2: would look like to be a juvenile big butt sticking
- 11:52Speaker 2: his head up over a stump and ducking back down. Well,
- 11:56Speaker 2: after I studied it and was able to see one
- 12:00Speaker 2: side of it when it exposed it beside the stump. Uh,
- 12:05Speaker 2: I didn't say anything to m K about it, but
- 12:07Speaker 2: I discovered it was a small person. So it's the
- 12:10Speaker 2: little little people. So I asked him had they found
- 12:13Speaker 2: any little tracks in the sandbar, and he said they did.
- 12:18Speaker 2: They found really small tracks, but Uh. I didn't let
- 12:22Speaker 2: him know that it was a little people. I probably
- 12:25Speaker 2: should have had, but I didn't want to interfere in
- 12:28Speaker 2: his ah taking that film apart. Uh. But he was
- 12:33Speaker 2: a good investigator. He'd have made a really good detective
- 12:37Speaker 2: because we were he was. He was able to show
- 12:41Speaker 2: in the left hand side of the film frame it
- 12:45Speaker 2: was there like a little water holeer, but it was
- 12:49Speaker 2: full of blood m hm. And it showed. Uh. We
- 12:55Speaker 2: were able to darken the contrast and show that horses
- 12:59Speaker 2: had been through there, but somebody was handling an attack
- 13:03Speaker 2: dog and that dog's feet was bloody, and so on
- 13:08Speaker 2: this side of the log, it shows it going up
- 13:11Speaker 2: to it, and then it shows where somebody had it
- 13:13Speaker 2: on a leash and pulled it back. And then you
- 13:16Speaker 2: have two different sized handprints, bigwood handprints on that log
- 13:21Speaker 2: this side of Paddy.
- 13:24Speaker 1: So that's wild. That's a lot of detail right there.
- 13:30Speaker 2: So we were able to darken the contrast and actually
- 13:33Speaker 2: see the bigfoot prints. And if you don't darken your contrast.
- 13:39Speaker 2: In law enforcement, we took black and white pictures of
- 13:42Speaker 2: crime scenes because that showed more if you don't darken
- 13:47Speaker 2: your contrast. The what they were calling white sands in
- 13:52Speaker 2: that film was actually gray sand. So by darkening the contrast,
- 14:01Speaker 2: the footprints come out perfectly. So we got to set
- 14:05Speaker 2: a footprints that goes up to the log and footprints
- 14:08Speaker 2: across the log. So, in my opinion of it, by
- 14:15Speaker 2: dealing with firearms and stuff somewhere around that outside of
- 14:20Speaker 2: that left hand side of that frame, whether a big
- 14:23Speaker 2: foot was shot that day, that morning or later that
- 14:27Speaker 2: day meaning the day before and had fell in that
- 14:33Speaker 2: watering hole of that creek and turned that water rid,
- 14:37Speaker 2: that's what the dog went through. It was tracking these
- 14:40Speaker 2: things and they were on horseback, and then when we
- 14:44Speaker 2: darkened the contrast, we could actually see the horse footprints.
- 14:49Speaker 2: So there was quite a bit in there that we
- 14:52Speaker 2: were able to break down.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Boy, that would have been a great conversation to listen
- 14:58Speaker 1: in on.
- 14:59Speaker 2: I tell you I wanted to video it, but in
- 15:03Speaker 2: respect to mister m K, I didn't even ask, you know,
- 15:08Speaker 2: because he's been working on that film for years and
- 15:10Speaker 2: he's done a fantastic job.
- 15:13Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he has. I agree with you on that
- 15:16Speaker 1: for sure. I think MK is great. I love him. Yes, yeah,
- 15:20Speaker 1: he has definitely picked apart that video, hadn't he?
- 15:23Speaker 2: Yeah? But she was headed to I believe she had
- 15:30Speaker 2: come there with some more to retrieve h In my
- 15:35Speaker 2: personal opinion, I didn't say this to him to retrieve
- 15:39Speaker 2: this big pot that had been shot in the back.
- 15:43Speaker 2: All the evidence showed that he had been shot in
- 15:45Speaker 2: the back. Now I didn't show the big pot because
- 15:48Speaker 2: the bleed over when the film was developed on the
- 15:52Speaker 2: left hand side did not show it, but you could
- 15:55Speaker 2: see the big red circle of blood m and then
- 16:03Speaker 2: on a limb, so that she would think as a
- 16:08Speaker 2: film's playing without it being in frames, that you would
- 16:13Speaker 2: see leaves like it was autumn, but that was actually
- 16:16Speaker 2: blood on the side of the leaves. So this logging
- 16:21Speaker 2: crew evidently sending a hunt team and we're after and
- 16:27Speaker 2: I think Patty come there to retrieve that bigfoot and
- 16:31Speaker 2: was taken him to a sarahmonal Maund because she had
- 16:34Speaker 2: all the Sarah Moonal things to do that with.
- 16:39Speaker 1: Oh, with her bag, her little her medicine bag and
- 16:42Speaker 1: all that stuff. WHOA, I tell you what, that's a
- 16:47Speaker 1: that's interesting and and it makes sense. You know, that
- 16:51Speaker 1: film has come up with a lot of controversy this
- 16:53Speaker 1: past year, you know, so they say that's thing in
- 16:56Speaker 1: cinkles every few years. It's just like another controversy where
- 16:59Speaker 1: that on us being proven disproven, and people are trying
- 17:02Speaker 1: to disprove it and stuff, but.
- 17:04Speaker 2: There's no way you can disprove it is what's on
- 17:07Speaker 2: that film is on that film. It's not being hoaxed,
- 17:11Speaker 2: it's not being added to. People tend to look at it.
- 17:16Speaker 2: You know, if you're just looking at Patty, you miss
- 17:19Speaker 2: a lot of things. And that's what people look at.
- 17:21Speaker 2: Everybody's not training investigation or detective work. They're not looking
- 17:26Speaker 2: at the surroundings. They're not looking at the ground. They're
- 17:29Speaker 2: not bringing your contrast and colors in and out to
- 17:32Speaker 2: see what was actually the color of the sand, what
- 17:35Speaker 2: was actually the color of the log, what was actually
- 17:39Speaker 2: the color of her? And then people think that as
- 17:42Speaker 2: I looked through those frames one by one, she didn't
- 17:50Speaker 2: have prayer own her. It's her that covers just like us,
- 17:55Speaker 2: if we were turned into the into the wild young.
- 17:59Speaker 2: You know, women shave their legs and stuff, Men shave
- 18:01Speaker 2: their beards and stuff. Well, we naturally grow hair, especially
- 18:06Speaker 2: if we ain't got closed. Closed tend to keep the
- 18:08Speaker 2: hair wore off of us. So she has long patches
- 18:12Speaker 2: of hair that covers these spots, and so in between
- 18:17Speaker 2: her butt cheeks, you could tell that where she had
- 18:21Speaker 2: been sliding maybe into a caves or going under logs
- 18:25Speaker 2: where she's so massive, or climbing over she had bear
- 18:29Speaker 2: spots there, and that would be indicate to us also
- 18:34Speaker 2: we would have bear spots in certain areas where she
- 18:40Speaker 2: would swing her arms on each side there, then actually
- 18:46Speaker 2: she'd have shorter hair, meaning bear spots. That's like a
- 18:51Speaker 2: man wears his breeches and stuff a lot of times
- 18:55Speaker 2: when he's out working, his levi pants or whatever will
- 19:00Speaker 2: keep their hair on. These legs cut back naturally, work
- 19:05Speaker 2: wore back and with with her, with her, with her,
- 19:10Speaker 2: she's just a giant human being.
- 19:14Speaker 1: A giant hairy human lady.
- 19:19Speaker 2: And I was trying to get the zoom on the
- 19:23Speaker 2: what I call the purse the Engines called a satchet,
- 19:28Speaker 2: because I wanted to see what the markings were on
- 19:31Speaker 2: this fold up piece of leather satching that she had
- 19:36Speaker 2: to see if there were serving any beads or any
- 19:41Speaker 2: markings on that. But we just didn't have the time.
- 19:45Speaker 2: He had to go into the conference and speak, but
- 19:49Speaker 2: we were making uh. He even made the comment of
- 19:52Speaker 2: all the years that he's been researching it. Between me
- 19:57Speaker 2: and him, we made some new lighting on the subject.
- 20:04Speaker 1: I'd love that. I love it. That's what this is
- 20:06Speaker 1: all about, right, And that's why I love going to
- 20:09Speaker 1: these conferences and meeting people and other researchers and stuff
- 20:13Speaker 1: just to throw ideas back and forth. And yeah, I
- 20:15Speaker 1: love that. I love that. We had a question in
- 20:17Speaker 1: the audience. I think big Foot Dwarf was like, well,
- 20:19Speaker 1: if there was a massacre where there should be bodies,
- 20:22Speaker 1: and I'll just tell you what I was told. Okay,
- 20:26Speaker 1: this is what I was saying. I was told that
- 20:27Speaker 1: their bodies were actually dissolved in acid. That's what I
- 20:31Speaker 1: was told. Now, I don't know that's true. What have
- 20:33Speaker 1: you heard, Bruce?
- 20:35Speaker 2: Okay? I all only got to see the film until
- 20:39Speaker 2: I met MK and on the film and then going
- 20:43Speaker 2: back through the years and doing the research on why
- 20:50Speaker 2: mister Patterson and Gimbling were there, it was due to
- 20:54Speaker 2: a logging company that hard people to come in there
- 20:57Speaker 2: to run these things off and hunt them m hm.
- 21:01Speaker 2: And so I was able to find in my research that, uh,
- 21:04Speaker 2: these things were tearing up their equipment and stuff, and
- 21:08Speaker 2: that was their excuse Uh, they did find massive, huge
- 21:12Speaker 2: prints the employees of a logging crew. Uh So, in
- 21:17Speaker 2: my opinion, uh, since this was on an Indian reservation,
- 21:22Speaker 2: that uh, if these things were to come out to
- 21:27Speaker 2: be absolute truth, meaning all this come out, then the
- 21:33Speaker 2: logging industry would have got shut down, right.
- 21:37Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's not that's not gonna happen. They're not
- 21:41Speaker 1: gonna let that happen, not with the concatenated order of
- 21:43Speaker 1: the Whoho running things out there. And uh, there's secret
- 21:47Speaker 1: society of lumberjacks and stuff.
- 21:50Speaker 2: There's there's two there's two rock altars up there that
- 21:55Speaker 2: are off limits to anybody. It's only used to train
- 21:59Speaker 2: shaman medicine people. That's the only people that are allowed
- 22:04Speaker 2: at these and that's where she was headed. So whether
- 22:09Speaker 2: the big book was killed shot in the back, but
- 22:12Speaker 2: her job, she's like the head of the clan, which
- 22:16Speaker 2: I had already run into that myself in the woods
- 22:19Speaker 2: by dealing with one that was ahead of the clans
- 22:22Speaker 2: that had braids. The scalplock is always on the right
- 22:25Speaker 2: side and braided, they'll use what I call drill arrowhead rocks.
- 22:33Speaker 2: Was long spirits and the most significant highest ones on
- 22:37Speaker 2: there will use bone, so they'll put that bone up
- 22:42Speaker 2: her and braid around that bone so that scalplock to
- 22:46Speaker 2: indicate her status. High status was on the right hand
- 22:50Speaker 2: side the braids there, and it was a fishbone, a
- 22:55Speaker 2: big fishbone that was braided into it. So everything matches
- 22:59Speaker 2: up with my investigation on the one I was interacting
- 23:05Speaker 2: with and still interacting with as the leader of the clan.
- 23:11Speaker 2: So yeah, man, that is.
- 23:14Speaker 1: Just absolutely cool, fantastic, And yeah, I mean I wonder
- 23:19Speaker 1: that video will be that film will be studied and
- 23:23Speaker 1: scrutinized for centuries to come forever. It's amazing though.
- 23:29Speaker 2: Yeah, people, like I said, people tend to look at
- 23:32Speaker 2: Patty herself and not pay attention to the surroundings. The
- 23:38Speaker 2: surroundings in a criminal investigation reveal a lot of what happens.
- 23:45Speaker 2: A friend of mine named pat is a detective about
- 23:48Speaker 2: a Nashville. He had a photographic memory. He would walk
- 23:54Speaker 2: into a murder scene with us and he could just
- 23:57Speaker 2: stand there and look and he could tell you what happens. Well,
- 24:03Speaker 2: that's what it takes in this spem through. These frames
- 24:08Speaker 2: are better than the negatives. And he and he got
- 24:12Speaker 2: to spim from Mss Patterson so these are better than
- 24:17Speaker 2: negatives from photos, and it clearly shows you you just
- 24:22Speaker 2: have to change the contrast because as things get older,
- 24:26Speaker 2: this spim wasn't taken good care of your count, your
- 24:29Speaker 2: contrast turns to get higher, meaning it gets wider, and
- 24:39Speaker 2: so a lot of things. You have to bring a
- 24:41Speaker 2: contrast down to able to see what's in the around her. So, yeah,
- 24:47Speaker 2: there's a good five to eight other sasquatch in that
- 24:54Speaker 2: video besides her, and a small person. Wow you know.
- 25:03Speaker 1: Oh so then sorry, go ahead, and you're.
- 25:05Speaker 2: Looking out, you're looking out a three and a half
- 25:08Speaker 2: to four foot uh small person in there. That's not
- 25:13Speaker 2: a big pot WHOA Well, I was.
- 25:16Speaker 1: I was just gonna say that we've we've historically found
- 25:19Speaker 1: small footprints around we're out there bigfooting, and we just
- 25:22Speaker 1: assumed that it was juvenile bigfoots babies. I mean, there
- 25:26Speaker 1: there have been times where, you know, Bob, one of
- 25:28Speaker 1: my teammates, he was out and found one tiny footprint
- 25:33Speaker 1: on the side of a creek, one tiny like a
- 25:36Speaker 1: like the size of a child, like a toddler basically,
- 25:39Speaker 1: and uh, and it makes more sense that that's not
- 25:41Speaker 1: just some loss because we were like, well, maybe it
- 25:43Speaker 1: was a lost child in the woods, but no, I
- 25:46Speaker 1: think it may be a little person.
- 25:49Speaker 2: And so with my investigations here in Tennessee, Uh, when
- 25:54Speaker 2: I found the big book graves, and then over next
- 25:59Speaker 2: to the big books, I found the pygmy graves. Okay,
- 26:04Speaker 2: And then when I went down the creek, out of
- 26:07Speaker 2: my preparal vision, I seen what I thought was a
- 26:10Speaker 2: small person. Now logically, I'm looking for a small person
- 26:17Speaker 2: somebody I can talk to, interact with, see if somebody
- 26:20Speaker 2: else's in there with their parents or something, which in
- 26:23Speaker 2: that area, I'm the only one in there, so I
- 26:26Speaker 2: rowwed that out. But going down the creek in certain
- 26:31Speaker 2: areas of water is knee deep to waste deep, t
- 26:34Speaker 2: ankle deep. In one of the holes there that was
- 26:39Speaker 2: knee deep, there was a five inch print, no wider
- 26:46Speaker 2: than an inch in the middle of that hole in
- 26:50Speaker 2: the mud. And so that's not a big footprint.
- 26:58Speaker 1: That's a weird kind of print.
- 27:00Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't have displayed beat like normally a big
- 27:03Speaker 2: butt jube and I would have or a big butt.
- 27:07Speaker 2: It was identical to maybe a year to a year
- 27:12Speaker 2: and a half human baby. Just a little bitty print.
- 27:19Speaker 1: Wow. Well, since we're on the topic of that and
- 27:22Speaker 1: the graves that you have. You actually have some videos
- 27:24Speaker 1: that you sent me that are pretty fantastic.
- 27:27Speaker 2: Uh.
- 27:27Speaker 1: You know, the last time I think it was the
- 27:29Speaker 1: last time you came on the show, we talked about
- 27:30Speaker 1: the pigmy graves, right tense. That was one of my
- 27:34Speaker 1: favorite topics. I just think it's fantastic. And uh. And
- 27:38Speaker 1: those stretch from north to south, all down the middle
- 27:40Speaker 1: of Tennessee kind of over to the east and uh.
- 27:44Speaker 1: And so you did some exploring recently. Is it okay
- 27:46Speaker 1: if we show those videos today to the audience? Okay, great, Well,
- 27:51Speaker 1: I don't think that we're going to be able to talk.
- 27:52Speaker 1: It's gonna mute us while I play these because I
- 27:54Speaker 1: have them uploaded to my program here. So do you
- 27:57Speaker 1: want to kind of explain to us. Let me see
- 27:59Speaker 1: which one. I can play either of them first, I've
- 28:03Speaker 1: got the the The first one you sent was the
- 28:06Speaker 1: Bigfoot grave. I believe. I don't know if this is
- 28:10Speaker 1: the right one, right one, Yeah, I think it was.
- 28:13Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm gonna play a real clip, a quick
- 28:16Speaker 1: clip of this, and you tell me which one is which. Okay, Okay,
- 28:18Speaker 1: I'll play it for like three seconds. Lack Clans, which
- 28:26Speaker 1: one was that?
- 28:26Speaker 2: Okay? That was the pigmies that the lative Americans dug
- 28:31Speaker 2: up to take their weapons so they wouldn't fight them
- 28:34Speaker 2: in the afterlife.
- 28:35Speaker 1: Let's let's play that real quick. I'm gonna play this.
- 28:37Speaker 1: It's about forty forty nine seconds. We're gonna play this,
- 28:40Speaker 1: and then you tell it, tell it, get into details
- 28:42Speaker 1: what that is. Okay, all right, let's play this for
- 28:44Speaker 1: the audience.
- 28:45Speaker 2: Here we go, lack Zloans and myself are investigating this
- 28:57Speaker 2: old Indian h burrels barrel grounds.
- 29:08Speaker 1: M h.
- 29:26Speaker 2: M m m m m.
- 29:36Speaker 1: Very cool. Did that? Did you say, Zach, that's the
- 29:39Speaker 1: guy that had that I met at the distillery.
- 29:41Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm d Yeah, I introduced you'll.
- 29:45Speaker 1: Yeah, I like him, dude. He's got some good he's
- 29:48Speaker 1: got some good thermal footage, right, Yeah.
- 29:52Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got he's got a thermal footage that we
- 29:54Speaker 2: did in a cave system that uh uh, the one
- 29:58Speaker 2: I stuck my face and in that dog man was
- 30:01Speaker 2: a foot from my face and I say, just about
- 30:04Speaker 2: touching my nose, and we stuck his thermal in there
- 30:09Speaker 2: and then we got the heat signature of it. So
- 30:12Speaker 2: he's got that. Now. With those pigmy graves there, they're
- 30:19Speaker 2: normally about three foot deep. They're two to three inches
- 30:25Speaker 2: two to three inches two to three feet long, and
- 30:29Speaker 2: they're generally when they're dug out like that, they're generally
- 30:32Speaker 2: a little bit wider. You'll see in there, those smaller
- 30:37Speaker 2: flat stones. That's what they line the sides with. The
- 30:41Speaker 2: top and not the top, but the very top of
- 30:45Speaker 2: the ends and the foot ends, and then the bottom
- 30:52Speaker 2: of it will be the two to three foot flat
- 30:54Speaker 2: stone maybe two inches thick. The top of it will
- 30:58Speaker 2: be another flat stone that will cover that entire thing.
- 31:02Speaker 2: But the sides and the ends of each of those
- 31:06Speaker 2: graves were put together with those smaller flat rocks.
- 31:11Speaker 1: Wow.
- 31:12Speaker 2: And so the Indians, the Native Americans who ward with
- 31:17Speaker 2: these would go in there and dig that up and
- 31:21Speaker 2: take the take the weapons, their little spears and stuff,
- 31:27Speaker 2: take them out so they wouldn't have to bite them
- 31:30Speaker 2: in the afterlife. Now, to the left of that video
- 31:34Speaker 2: when you played it, there's actually a bigger grave there
- 31:38Speaker 2: with a giant human skull in it. Now, I wouldn't
- 31:43Speaker 2: take the video of it. Talk to mister Zach online.
- 31:47Speaker 2: I was like, I'm superstitious. I don't think we ought
- 31:50Speaker 2: a video that And that's over into a deeper hole
- 31:56Speaker 2: with a longer mass of stack short stones. That video
- 32:00Speaker 2: again when it starts, if you look to the left
- 32:04Speaker 2: hand side of that video, you'll see the stacked rock
- 32:09Speaker 2: in the wall. And that's where right in front of that,
- 32:12Speaker 2: that's where this giant it's about four times of a
- 32:17Speaker 2: human skull, and it's down in the hall and it's
- 32:21Speaker 2: very well preserved. There's nothing bothered it. So it's it's
- 32:27Speaker 2: it's it's in that burial ground with the pigmies.
- 32:32Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I wonder why why why are they
- 32:34Speaker 1: placed there together?
- 32:35Speaker 2: Do you think they run together? Uh? A lot of
- 32:42Speaker 2: people that get out here and have a big pudding
- 32:47Speaker 2: counter also notice at times, not every time, that they
- 32:51Speaker 2: have seen small people in these areas, these little pigmies,
- 32:55Speaker 2: or they got different names for them here we call
- 32:58Speaker 2: them pigmies. And that's on that warrior's path that we
- 33:03Speaker 2: that that you showed a map up here a week
- 33:06Speaker 2: or two ago where the pygmies are buried all the
- 33:10Speaker 2: way down that map.
- 33:12Speaker 1: M hmm.
- 33:16Speaker 2: That's a very very it's very interesting. You will see
- 33:22Speaker 2: in some of the graves or with the where of
- 33:24Speaker 2: the nators? Uh dug them up. I actually started afar
- 33:29Speaker 2: in some of those graves to burn the higher uppers
- 33:36Speaker 2: in the pygmy thing because they didn't want him to
- 33:39Speaker 2: come back in the afterlife.
- 33:42Speaker 1: Wow. I was trying and find the map, but I can't.
- 33:45Speaker 1: I can't find it that quick right here. But that's uh,
- 33:48Speaker 1: that's that is really cool, super cool. And I wanted
- 33:52Speaker 1: to go back to the Bluff Creek because Bigfoot Dwarf
- 33:54Speaker 1: has an interesting comment. He says he spends time up
- 33:57Speaker 1: there researching. He says there's an area had near Bluff
- 34:00Speaker 1: Creek that natives say the little people be. That's where
- 34:04Speaker 1: the little people live up there nearby, So that makes sense.
- 34:07Speaker 2: Yeah, they do run together, and they do look out
- 34:09Speaker 2: for each other. They'll look out for the big book
- 34:12Speaker 2: the big but will look out for them.
- 34:15Speaker 1: Oh wow, that is fantastic. Okay, well, well, thank you
- 34:20Speaker 1: for sharing that with us. And I think that's really
- 34:24Speaker 1: cool that you went there and feel that and and
- 34:27Speaker 1: to have the respect to not show that school. I
- 34:29Speaker 1: think I would have done the same thing.
- 34:31Speaker 2: Right.
- 34:32Speaker 1: You don't need no giants haunting you in your sleep
- 34:34Speaker 1: at night and stuff. Okay, would be worse than that, probably, Okay, maybe,
- 34:40Speaker 1: even though I like to stay positive about stuff, things
- 34:43Speaker 1: that are off limits out of respect. Right now, let's
- 34:47Speaker 1: do not watch the other video. Now, the other video
- 34:50Speaker 1: would be a big foot grave.
- 34:51Speaker 2: Right, yeah, several of them there, yes, several.
- 34:55Speaker 1: Okay, Let's play the video and then we can talk
- 34:57Speaker 1: about this one. All right, This is about another forty
- 34:59Speaker 1: forty three forty three second, y'all.
- 35:04Speaker 2: Here's a cave next to the engine. Far pit goes
- 35:13Speaker 2: back under their pretty good ways. I can't see the
- 35:15Speaker 2: end of it. Rocks are blackened with smoke. You can
- 35:31Speaker 2: see how they're stacked here in places got black rocks
- 35:36Speaker 2: going into it, were put in there.
- 35:46Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I one thing that just stood out
- 35:49Speaker 1: was the black smoke on the rocks, Bruce, And is
- 35:53Speaker 1: that where these something would have been smoked out of there?
- 35:55Speaker 1: Is that just where someone had like ceremonial smoke, or
- 35:58Speaker 1: is it where somebody was getting out of the rain
- 36:01Speaker 1: and built a fire.
- 36:02Speaker 2: No, that's that's ancient fire pits. That's a ceremonial. When
- 36:07Speaker 2: they bury their dead. They have ceremonies like we do. Okay.
- 36:13Speaker 2: The flat rock, the long flat rock, there that you
- 36:15Speaker 2: see is the top of one of the grapes. Again,
- 36:21Speaker 2: they will use the shorter rocks that showed on the side,
- 36:25Speaker 2: that was out on the side sticking up. They will
- 36:29Speaker 2: use them for the sides, and they may put two
- 36:31Speaker 2: of them together, and then at the head of them
- 36:37Speaker 2: they will stalk. There will stack of rock like a pyramid,
- 36:42Speaker 2: smaller rocks, but they'll to the right of them. Always
- 36:46Speaker 2: to the right of them, they'll have a ceremonial pit.
- 36:50Speaker 2: So they did use far And people ask me, well,
- 36:55Speaker 2: how do they get far? Well, if you clack two
- 36:57Speaker 2: quartz rocks together, you get sparks. So they knew how
- 37:00Speaker 2: to make par and and so they they have a
- 37:05Speaker 2: rituals that they go through, and that would have been
- 37:10Speaker 2: a big book. Like Patty, who had all the knowledge
- 37:17Speaker 2: and was the leader, she would start the spiritual just
- 37:23Speaker 2: like we we bury ours. You know when the funeral home,
- 37:27Speaker 2: we say prayers and we pay respect to the dead.
- 37:34Speaker 2: They're the same as us. Now again you go back,
- 37:37Speaker 2: they don't have fur. Now that's the reason why snake
- 37:42Speaker 2: in New York showed one was covered with fur. As
- 37:45Speaker 2: soon as I seen it, I knew it wasn't real.
- 37:46Speaker 2: That's carp Oh, that is a shag carpet.
- 37:50Speaker 1: Oh, that came out as definitely fake, by the way.
- 37:53Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's hair. They have long hair that comes
- 37:57Speaker 2: down and covers you know, if you pulled that long
- 38:01Speaker 2: hair up in spots, it would be bare skin, just
- 38:03Speaker 2: like ours, you know.
- 38:06Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah, you know. Cornell University came out
- 38:10Speaker 1: and said that they did not test any DNA from
- 38:14Speaker 1: that guy, from any kind of bigfoot creature. They said
- 38:18Speaker 1: they made a public statement about it. Actually, yeah, we
- 38:22Speaker 1: called that one.
- 38:24Speaker 2: When anybody with a first name Slack looked like him
- 38:28Speaker 2: and drive a big butt out of a park area,
- 38:32Speaker 2: it's not going to happen. And if you look at
- 38:36Speaker 2: the hair on this specimen he had, it was made
- 38:43Speaker 2: of carpet carpet bibers. It's not hair like you know,
- 38:50Speaker 2: like the hair on your head that you've got. If
- 38:53Speaker 2: you pull your hair up, you can see your ears
- 38:56Speaker 2: and your neck and everything. Well, a big butt's the
- 38:59Speaker 2: same way. They're more human. They're just massive. They got
- 39:05Speaker 2: bigger glukes. Everything about them is.
- 39:08Speaker 1: Just bigger, big old booties, that's right.
- 39:11Speaker 2: The only difference between their hands and our hands is
- 39:15Speaker 2: they have a break like that. In their hands.
- 39:17Speaker 1: They have a y a curve ape kind of like
- 39:21Speaker 1: a primate right right, and.
- 39:24Speaker 2: They have that, so you get your good prints when
- 39:29Speaker 2: they touch logs and stuff, and especially if their hands
- 39:36Speaker 2: are dirty and they touch a smooth log that doesn't
- 39:40Speaker 2: have any bark on it, then you can see when
- 39:44Speaker 2: it touches, if it goes over, it's just straight up
- 39:47Speaker 2: and down because it's got that curve in it.
- 39:51Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we feel some good handprints around. I think
- 39:54Speaker 1: I picked up at least one handprint at that investigation
- 39:58Speaker 1: I did on Thursday. And David right here, David Pardus
- 40:01Speaker 1: in the chat again, him and Ed and uh, and
- 40:03Speaker 1: he's got some great pictures of some some handprints on
- 40:06Speaker 1: a it's the it's the bathroom at one of the
- 40:09Speaker 1: campgrounds at the place that they research, and you can
- 40:12Speaker 1: see the hands and it's it's just like how you
- 40:14Speaker 1: describe it.
- 40:15Speaker 2: They're huge and when they touch your winder, when they
- 40:19Speaker 2: touch your winder, it'll be like this, and then when
- 40:23Speaker 2: they push it straightens that out and looks like one
- 40:26Speaker 2: big spear, so that last three or four inches of
- 40:31Speaker 2: that print is smeared. And then you get the and
- 40:35Speaker 2: you get the ball of your points and you get
- 40:37Speaker 2: your epidermics marks. And that way you can if you
- 40:44Speaker 2: if you taake take a I used to use a
- 40:48Speaker 2: fingerprint uh kit, and dust that and take an index card,
- 40:56Speaker 2: flip it over to the back of side where it
- 40:58Speaker 2: doesn't have the marks in it, and lay a piece
- 41:01Speaker 2: of tape on that and rub that tape on that
- 41:04Speaker 2: print and then pull that tape off gently and put
- 41:07Speaker 2: it on the backside of that index card and you've
- 41:10Speaker 2: got your perfect prints.
- 41:12Speaker 1: Ooh, that's good to know. Yes, how to investigate crimes
- 41:18Speaker 1: with Bruce Brown, I love that. But uh, that's that
- 41:22Speaker 1: is wild.
- 41:23Speaker 2: You know.
- 41:23Speaker 1: We just I just did a show on Monday about
- 41:26Speaker 1: cryptids using tools and we were actually kind of talking
- 41:30Speaker 1: about you know, them clanking rocks together and using using
- 41:35Speaker 1: rocks and even even potentially using human tools they found
- 41:39Speaker 1: at campgrounds and stuff to complete tasks. And the question was, well,
- 41:43Speaker 1: did bigfoots make fired? Do they know? I'm sure they know?
- 41:46Speaker 2: How well you take if you take there's other rocks
- 41:50Speaker 2: to do it. The quartz is the easiest. You take
- 41:52Speaker 2: two pieces of quartz and pop them together, they'll spark. Okay, Now,
- 41:59Speaker 2: when when you get to the two aspect of it.
- 42:03Speaker 2: Me and Zach Jones went under a mountain bluff and
- 42:07Speaker 2: we found a pair of needle those flyers in the
- 42:10Speaker 2: middle of nowhere. This is a long waist and it
- 42:15Speaker 2: was laid in an ancient fire pit upon a rock ledge.
- 42:23Speaker 2: And it was a pair of needleing those flowers that
- 42:25Speaker 2: you buy at the hardware store. Yeah, and we can't
- 42:28Speaker 2: when you're little laugh at this, but this is the truth.
- 42:31Speaker 2: Zach can back me up on this. We found we
- 42:34Speaker 2: found a can of beaners beans okay that the pull
- 42:40Speaker 2: tab wasn't pulled, it was pushed in. The lid was
- 42:45Speaker 2: pushed in perfectly, and what the sausage was come up
- 42:50Speaker 2: around the lid and out.
- 42:51Speaker 1: Oh my god.
- 42:53Speaker 2: So the lid wasn't bent or anything, and it was
- 42:55Speaker 2: not pulled, it was pushed in perfectly, you know what.
- 43:01Speaker 1: So that tells me that bigfoots will eat Vina sausages.
- 43:06Speaker 1: So yes, just take them in my backpack and leave
- 43:08Speaker 1: them out.
- 43:10Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the truck. Yeah, oh god.
- 43:14Speaker 1: Some veners.
- 43:15Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 43:16Speaker 1: Man, Well, that's that's really interesting and uh and I
- 43:19Speaker 1: can appreciate that. It makes you wonder are they taking
- 43:22Speaker 1: tools from campsites and stuff and actually utilizing those like
- 43:26Speaker 1: humans do.
- 43:27Speaker 2: Yes, the only thing I could think of with this
- 43:29Speaker 2: is they took up Armer's pair of needing loads flowers
- 43:33Speaker 2: and took them way in the middle of nowhere, and
- 43:35Speaker 2: they put them up on this ledge and this ancient
- 43:39Speaker 2: bar pit. Uh. We our tracks were in there, Okay,
- 43:48Speaker 2: there's no way for the weather to get into this,
- 43:52Speaker 2: for the rain or wind to wipe the tracks out. Well,
- 43:56Speaker 2: our tracks was in there. When I went back a
- 44:00Speaker 2: couple of weeks later, our tracks weren't there anymore. And
- 44:05Speaker 2: then what I found down the hill was a broken
- 44:08Speaker 2: piece of cedar limb and somebody swept that floor no way,
- 44:16Speaker 2: So I mean you're you're looking at they erased our primps.
- 44:23Speaker 1: Well, do you think it was bigfoot or do you
- 44:25Speaker 1: think it could be feral people out there?
- 44:27Speaker 2: Well, it's all the signs of us are bigfoot, you know,
- 44:32Speaker 2: big pot or the or the small people?
- 44:35Speaker 1: Oh the little people? Yeah, oh man, I did. The
- 44:38Speaker 1: little people are much more common than I've ever given
- 44:41Speaker 1: them credit for.
- 44:43Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah.
- 44:45Speaker 1: I have a and that maybe what's on that the
- 44:48Speaker 1: woman's property that I investigated on Thursday. She did see
- 44:51Speaker 1: that four foot tall man. It was a full grown
- 44:54Speaker 1: human man, but he was about four feet tall. She
- 44:57Speaker 1: said he had gray skin, and and he shape shifted
- 45:01Speaker 1: from a dog to a deer, or deer to a
- 45:03Speaker 1: dog and then to that man. And it seemingly opened
- 45:07Speaker 1: up and turned a doorknob and opened up a door
- 45:10Speaker 1: to the darkness, and it went inside. It looked at
- 45:13Speaker 1: her as it was doing it, and she was like,
- 45:16Speaker 1: I saw it, And she was like, I saw it.
- 45:18Speaker 1: She's like, I know, I'm not I'm not crazy. I
- 45:21Speaker 1: told her. I was like, we're all a little crazy.
- 45:24Speaker 1: But it's interesting because I think that that could have
- 45:28Speaker 1: been I mean, could that be considered a little person
- 45:30Speaker 1: if they're about four feet tall?
- 45:32Speaker 2: Oh, yes, yes, Well I've caught them out of my
- 45:36Speaker 2: preperal vision and I know exactly what they were. I
- 45:40Speaker 2: know they're a little bit more aggressive than the Bigfoot.
- 45:43Speaker 2: They can be mean, so I don't actually try to
- 45:48Speaker 2: track them and food with them. Now. They're the ones
- 45:52Speaker 2: that's bad. Where Bigfoot throws small gravels, they're bad about
- 45:55Speaker 2: throwing acrens. And a lot of people don't know the difference.
- 45:59Speaker 2: So I think it's a big.
- 46:01Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we've I have definitely been pelted with rocks
- 46:04Speaker 1: and acorns before. And I don't think I don't think
- 46:07Speaker 1: that was a big foot. We think it was something different.
- 46:10Speaker 1: It was something that would ever crawled out of that
- 46:11Speaker 1: portal one night behind our tents. It was. It was
- 46:16Speaker 1: ominous and uh, we didn't sleep a win, None of
- 46:18Speaker 1: us slept a wink that night. But we did turn
- 46:21Speaker 1: in and we didn't get out of our tents all night,
- 46:23Speaker 1: none of us until the sun came up.
- 46:24Speaker 2: It was weird.
- 46:25Speaker 1: It was really weird, like we were being hypnotically held
- 46:28Speaker 1: captive by something. That's what it felt like the next
- 46:31Speaker 1: day after we snapped out of it, That's what it
- 46:34Speaker 1: felt like. So it is kind of like a trickster energy.
- 46:37Speaker 1: I think that's what I think.
- 46:40Speaker 2: Uh.
- 46:41Speaker 1: But speaking of throwing things, there's something that I did
- 46:43Speaker 1: want to talk about with you today too, and that's
- 46:45Speaker 1: how out of Tennessee, especially is Tennessee in Kentucky, that's
- 46:49Speaker 1: where you live up that way, and uh, and I'd
- 46:51Speaker 1: come across some information about it's called the Pity Pat
- 46:56Speaker 1: and the Pitty Pat Hall Hall. We're gonna call it.
- 46:58Speaker 1: Holler out, holler down in. It's kind of down in
- 47:02Speaker 1: southeastern Tennessee. I believe. And uh, and there's there's this
- 47:06Speaker 1: area where people get pelted with stuff from the trees
- 47:10Speaker 1: when they're walking at night, travelers, hikers, locals, Uh, they're
- 47:14Speaker 1: getting pelted with stuff. And there's a wide variety. We
- 47:17Speaker 1: you and I both know. I've been there to this area.
- 47:20Speaker 1: I've researched out there, Smoky Mountains kind of area right there. Appalachians.
- 47:26Speaker 2: Well, that's gonna be. That's gonna be more into the
- 47:29Speaker 2: Cherokee National Forest ends of it, that's gonna be Hamilton
- 47:33Speaker 2: County is gonna be Chattanooga's gonna be the main city
- 47:36Speaker 2: of the county.
- 47:38Speaker 1: Oh really, Okay, the map so I can we can
- 47:41Speaker 1: show the audience where this is located, because I mean,
- 47:44Speaker 1: just north of there is Oakridge Labs, one of my
- 47:47Speaker 1: favorite things to talk about. And uh, ann Coock County
- 47:51Speaker 1: where Amber Miller and Tony Eron's got mauled to death
- 47:55Speaker 1: as well. Unfortunately, that red.
- 47:57Speaker 2: Mark is gonna be Hamilton County. In the center of
- 48:00Speaker 2: that mark, towards the Georgia line is going to be
- 48:03Speaker 2: the city of Chattanooga at the river.
- 48:07Speaker 1: And that is just that's it. Chickamauga. We just talked
- 48:09Speaker 1: about Chickamauga on Saturday night with Old Green Eyes. That's
- 48:13Speaker 1: the same location right there. Yep, I'll be my goodness,
- 48:18Speaker 1: that's right. Drive to go to Kentucky, drive right through there.
- 48:21Speaker 2: That particular road there that everybody sees so many different things.
- 48:26Speaker 2: There's bigfoot been spotted on that road that you're talking about. Uh,
- 48:31Speaker 2: there's been an eighteen sixty and on eighteen sixty something
- 48:41Speaker 2: jumped out on a horse that caused it to go
- 48:45Speaker 2: berserk and flipped the carriage over and killed a baby
- 48:49Speaker 2: when the carriage flipped over. And then through the Civil
- 48:55Speaker 2: War that was seen by several Civil warsaws, and it
- 49:02Speaker 2: was preferred to it as one time as a wampus cat.
- 49:06Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And I was going to ask you if
- 49:10Speaker 1: you think this is the wampus cat we're talking about,
- 49:13Speaker 1: because that's the conclusion that I was coming to with that,
- 49:16Speaker 1: but I wasn't sure.
- 49:19Speaker 2: And then uh, uh people who have rode horses. I
- 49:23Speaker 2: think a doctor had written a statement on it, uh
- 49:28Speaker 2: and another person. Uh. It took prominent people to write
- 49:33Speaker 2: about it, because your everyday people again are superstitious and
- 49:37Speaker 2: wouldn't wouldn't talk about it, and if they did, they
- 49:40Speaker 2: surely wasn't going to write a statement on it. And
- 49:43Speaker 2: that that goes on, that goes on till today. It
- 49:47Speaker 2: jumps out on their cars and stuff.
- 49:51Speaker 1: It does, it does well. I've got I've got some
- 49:53Speaker 1: more information right here on it, and I was gonna
- 49:55Speaker 1: pull up some more pictures, but here I'm just gonna
- 49:58Speaker 1: read a little bit. So this is actually called Shipley
- 50:01Speaker 1: Hollow Road. It's in Cell Creek, s A L. E. Creek,
- 50:05Speaker 1: North Tennessee, South Tennessee and across.
- 50:09Speaker 2: The Shipley Cemetery Road too.
- 50:13Speaker 1: Okay, yes, oh it's it's a well known area for haunts, Okay,
- 50:17Speaker 1: And so it's let's see, so it's home of the
- 50:21Speaker 1: pitty pack creature. And I'm going to tell you why
- 50:23Speaker 1: it's called the pity pac creature because this thing sounds
- 50:25Speaker 1: like it's pittering and pattering pity padding around. Whenever people
- 50:31Speaker 1: are encountering this thing, they can hear its footsteps, which
- 50:34Speaker 1: is different than a big fill. Lot of times, bigfoots
- 50:36Speaker 1: are totally silent. You won't hear them. Doug men too sometimes.
- 50:40Speaker 1: But it's it's a strange cat like creature. And this
- 50:44Speaker 1: thing has been around for over one hundred and fifty years.
- 50:47Speaker 1: And like you said, they do jump in front of
- 50:49Speaker 1: cars or horses. Back when they had horse drawn carriages,
- 50:52Speaker 1: it would jump down from trees and it would scare people.
- 50:56Speaker 1: And so let's see you're right. So it says the
- 51:00Speaker 1: it's between the cities of Dayton Chattanooga on the Tennessee River.
- 51:04Speaker 1: And they say people say they stay away from Shipley
- 51:07Speaker 1: Hollow in Shipley Hollow Road. It's also known as Pity
- 51:11Speaker 1: what is that Pity pat Hollow And they say that
- 51:15Speaker 1: since the eighteen sixties there's been a shadowy creature that
- 51:19Speaker 1: has it's not only scared people, it is it scares
- 51:23Speaker 1: the horses, causing the horses to run off and the
- 51:26Speaker 1: people in the carriages to fall out. And a baby
- 51:28Speaker 1: was taken by this thing whatever it is. But they
- 51:33Speaker 1: say it has catlight features. To me, it does sound
- 51:35Speaker 1: like a black panther or I mean, we were just
- 51:38Speaker 1: talking on old Line Cryptids last night. We got into
- 51:40Speaker 1: the conversation about the feline humanoids Bruce that people are
- 51:45Speaker 1: encountering and uh, and there's actually some there's a state
- 51:49Speaker 1: park ranger or multiple state park rangers in Missouri that
- 51:53Speaker 1: shot at some of these things. They said they're you know,
- 51:56Speaker 1: I want to say about five feet tall or more.
- 51:58Speaker 1: I can't remember how big they said they were exactly.
- 52:01Speaker 1: But there was a group of them in a park
- 52:04Speaker 1: in Missouri and they were shooting at these things. I mean,
- 52:08Speaker 1: that's a little scary.
- 52:11Speaker 2: Uh. In twenty eleven between there in Coker Creek, Tennessee,
- 52:19Speaker 2: which is right up on the line from North Carolina,
- 52:23Speaker 2: just a couple of counties up there, Uh to Iawall,
- 52:28Speaker 2: I had a ninety six year old woman call me
- 52:32Speaker 2: and she's got my number from the post office there
- 52:37Speaker 2: where I had been to Coker Creek go prospecting, and
- 52:42Speaker 2: I had run into me and my wife had run
- 52:47Speaker 2: into Uh. We were camping there and we heard a
- 52:53Speaker 2: big boot called echo down those hollers and then we
- 52:59Speaker 2: had for that drums beating and chanting for four hours straight.
- 53:06Speaker 2: So wow, I asked around in the community about that.
- 53:11Speaker 2: And to tell you how much I got involved into it,
- 53:14Speaker 2: I moved into Coker Creek, Tennessee, just to study this.
- 53:19Speaker 2: So I lived up there for a year in the
- 53:21Speaker 2: Cherokee National Force at Coker Creek to study this. Well,
- 53:26Speaker 2: this ninety something year old woman, nobody would believe what
- 53:29Speaker 2: she was seeing in her backyard and around her house,
- 53:34Speaker 2: and she kept calling it a black panther, and so
- 53:39Speaker 2: I'd gone up there and talked to her, and she
- 53:45Speaker 2: had me to put trail cams out attached to her house,
- 53:49Speaker 2: and on that we got pictures of a black panther.
- 53:54Speaker 2: But the problem is this panther was bigger then the
- 54:00Speaker 2: panther should be. It was a mountain lion size, but
- 54:04Speaker 2: it was totally black. So, yeah, there is some strange
- 54:08Speaker 2: things of her. And when I asked the twr A
- 54:12Speaker 2: about it, can see wild Life Resource Management Agency, they
- 54:19Speaker 2: said every now and then a mountain line would move through,
- 54:21Speaker 2: but it was the wrong color for a mountain line,
- 54:25Speaker 2: and that's all we would talk about on it. And
- 54:29Speaker 2: I said, well, she's having a problem here with us
- 54:31Speaker 2: coming into her house yards very often, and that she
- 54:38Speaker 2: even thought about taking a shot at it, and they
- 54:42Speaker 2: quickly advised me to advise her that if she does,
- 54:46Speaker 2: she's going to be in trouble. That right there, Yep,
- 54:49Speaker 2: that's exactly what we want.
- 54:51Speaker 1: That exists, but don't shoot it.
- 54:53Speaker 2: Right that's the exact thing that was on my trail
- 54:56Speaker 2: cams at her house.
- 54:58Speaker 1: Gosh, that is scared. Uh, that's the exact same color
- 55:02Speaker 1: of that thing that I saw on the side of
- 55:04Speaker 1: the road in Alabama. It looked just like that. It
- 55:06Speaker 1: was a mix between a panther and I always say
- 55:09Speaker 1: that's a dog and panther and a bear. It was huge, yeah,
- 55:11Speaker 1: but it was. It was dark as night, just like that, right.
- 55:16Speaker 2: The black black, as black as you'll ever see.
- 55:21Speaker 1: Oh man, that's scary. Okay, that's scary. And I think
- 55:25Speaker 1: that I think that DC's talking about coming down from
- 55:27Speaker 1: the trees. These things pounce on people from the trees
- 55:30Speaker 1: like they were jump on you from up high.
- 55:33Speaker 2: And that's what was jumping on the horses back in
- 55:35Speaker 2: the day. And that's what And at eighteen sixty or
- 55:39Speaker 2: sixty one on Pitty Pat Road, that's where one had
- 55:45Speaker 2: jumped out on the horse and attacked the horse. That
- 55:48Speaker 2: caused the carriage to lose control and flip and kill
- 55:51Speaker 2: the baby. Okay, the woman got hurt, but they never
- 55:56Speaker 2: found the baby.
- 56:00Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's tragic, very tragic. Uh, whatever it was
- 56:05Speaker 1: carried they said, the stories that I read said that
- 56:08Speaker 1: the whatever this was carried the baby off. Yes, she
- 56:11Speaker 1: never saw it again. The mother was injured, I guess
- 56:14Speaker 1: she couldn't get up.
- 56:15Speaker 2: Well, she could see it, and it did get the baby,
- 56:18Speaker 2: but searchers could never find the baby.
- 56:23Speaker 1: It took her baby. I mean, could you imagine. That's
- 56:25Speaker 1: absolutely terrible and.
- 56:28Speaker 2: To this to this day, Uh, you can go down
- 56:32Speaker 2: that road late at night and have an encounter with
- 56:37Speaker 2: a woman in a white dress looking for her baby.
- 56:41Speaker 1: So this is not just Okay, there's flesh and bone
- 56:44Speaker 1: creatures out there. There's cats, there's got to be bigfoots
- 56:49Speaker 1: out there, and probably dog man as well, and other stuff.
- 56:53Speaker 1: But we've got we've got a lot of ghost stories
- 56:55Speaker 1: that come out of this area, a lot of ghostories,
- 56:58Speaker 1: and they're all kind of interconne there. It's almost like
- 57:01Speaker 1: like I kind of joke around about how one of
- 57:02Speaker 1: my research areas is called the Skinwalker Ranch of the South.
- 57:05Speaker 1: Like all the Smoky Mountains right there, all the Appalachians,
- 57:08Speaker 1: it's all Skinwalker Ranch, Okay, of the whole South right there.
- 57:12Speaker 1: In my opinion, there's everything.
- 57:16Speaker 2: Out there, Yes, And when you get into this there
- 57:19Speaker 2: were several besides this woman incident, there were numerous other
- 57:27Speaker 2: incidents of the exact same thing on that road. And
- 57:31Speaker 2: as buggies turned into cars, we've advanced throughout time, they're
- 57:38Speaker 2: still having this thing jump out on cars. We're jumping
- 57:44Speaker 2: in the road out of a tree in front of
- 57:46Speaker 2: a car, causing people to wreck. So that's still going
- 57:50Speaker 2: on to this day. You know.
- 57:53Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me a little bit of the
- 57:54Speaker 1: Old Green Eyes that we were talking about on Saturday
- 57:57Speaker 1: in Chickamauga, which is right there right below.
- 58:00Speaker 2: It been a which would have been a war soldier.
- 58:04Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, we were. We were theorizing on Saturday that
- 58:08Speaker 1: maybe it was a were wolf. Uh, the Old Green
- 58:10Speaker 1: Eyes was some sort of people calling him a ghoul,
- 58:13Speaker 1: but I think he could it possibly could have been
- 58:16Speaker 1: a were wolf.
- 58:17Speaker 2: The uh, the stories on that out of Chickamauga says
- 58:24Speaker 2: that it was a man eater did it? Did it? Uh?
- 58:29Speaker 2: It was a man, a soldier that looked just like
- 58:31Speaker 2: any other soldier, but at night its eyes was turned
- 58:35Speaker 2: green and there were so many soldiers' bodies laying in
- 58:38Speaker 2: the fields that it was actually caught eating on those bodies.
- 58:42Speaker 2: M hm. And I don't know whether they killed it
- 58:45Speaker 2: or not. I mean, that's that's about all I know
- 58:49Speaker 2: of that uh uh story, you know, and it was
- 58:54Speaker 2: it was journaled by uh uh, I want to say
- 59:00Speaker 2: a captain or first lieutenant. It was in his journals.
- 59:06Speaker 1: We well that well, it's it lives onto this day
- 59:10Speaker 1: and people are still encountering the glowing green eyes in
- 59:13Speaker 1: the woods and they are wrecking on the side of
- 59:15Speaker 1: the road or off the side of the road. There's
- 59:17Speaker 1: a curve by the battlefield and one of the main
- 59:20Speaker 1: highways right there is it's not very well traveled right there.
- 59:23Speaker 1: I mean it's it's out in the country. But I'm
- 59:26Speaker 1: sure they get plenty of traffic there, considering it's a
- 59:28Speaker 1: national landmark out there, right and people go to visit it.
- 59:32Speaker 1: But people still to this day have wrecks right there
- 59:36Speaker 1: because they see these glowing green eyes. Now, could somebody
- 59:39Speaker 1: be messing with people with flashlights in the woods, Yes
- 59:42Speaker 1: they could, but people will claim that's not what's going
- 59:44Speaker 1: on out there.
- 59:46Speaker 2: No, it would be. It would be bad to jump
- 59:50Speaker 2: out on the car playing a prank because you get
- 59:52Speaker 2: yourself run over because you scare somebody. They'll flower it,
- 59:55Speaker 2: you know.
- 59:56Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, out in the country people carry
- 59:59Speaker 1: firearms too, okay, so they.
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: Don't mind running They don't mind running you over with
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: their truck.
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: And getting out and shooting exactly they may they made
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: sure it's dead, did Okay? Yeah, And so I would
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: not advise anybody to go playing around in the Appalachians
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: ever like that. But uh, but yeah, it kind of
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: reminds me of this. It's like a long time haunt.
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: I mean, it's been almost two centuries. Okay, it's been
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: I'm not going to say, well, I guess says it's
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: what it's twenty twenty something, so a century and a
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: half of haunts that are recorded. Okay, so it's a
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: civil war out there, same at Chickamauga and at this
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: place at what they're calling Pity Pat Hollow. And you know,
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: it makes sense you're in the pity Pats, I mean
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: that's what it. I mean, cats are also silent in
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: the woods as well, but if anything pity padded, it'd
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: be a cat bruce.
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: Right right. I think there's witnesses that also this thing
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: has shadows from them going down that road. Other words,
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: being in the woods just within the eye sight of them,
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: but following them. Oh well, there's several accounts of that.
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, we get paralleled in the woods occasionally
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: by but we believe it's probably bigfoot doing it when
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: when it's in my instance. But also another thing I
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: wanted to point out is, you know, when we were
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: up in North Carolina, we were watching the self illuminated
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: eye glue glow on these big foots, and one set
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: of the eye glow was green. It had a green
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: tint to it, very similar to old green eyes. It
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: wasn't like neon green, but it was green.
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: So it makes me wonder big big but tend to
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: have white eyes and green eyes. Yeah, a lot of
- 1:01:56Speaker 2: people don't understand that. It's like, I don't know how
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: many fishermen we have in the crowd here and the
- 1:02:03Speaker 2: chants and stuff listening. But when you catch a croppy,
- 1:02:09Speaker 2: you can catch a crappy and muddy water, and when
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: you look at his eyeballs, his eyeballs are twice the
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: normal size of a fish of that size, so it
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: gathers lights. And then at night time when you bring
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: him up and you got your head light on, he'll
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: also have green ies. Yes, so I think that has
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: a lot to do with nocturnal.
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: Yeah, sounds right to me, it does. Okay, Well, let's
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: see this is interesting, Reverend Will says, Think about how
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: many setanic rituals take place in the woods. Oh man,
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: I mean, I wasn't going to go there with this,
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: but this is something that's reoccurring as far as in
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: the investigations and the research goes. There's a lot of
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: backwoods colts out here, especially in the Appalachians, and you
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: know voodoo hoodoo kind of stuff, and it says of
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: the history that's an accumulation of demonic energy. They're going
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: to be things. A good example would be the Ao
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: Kagawa Forests. I'm sure I pronounce that wrong in Japan.
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: Is that the suicide forest?
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: That what it is?
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody, And that's the same as okay, so that's
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: the same as the Chickamauga Battlefield. People go there to
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: this day and unlive themselves there self delete on that property.
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: Like the fact that they go there to that property
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: is just it's odd to me.
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: It makes you wonder did they have that on their
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: mind when they got there, or did something there change
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: their mind into doing that.
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: They were being called there apparently because Greg greg who
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: was my guest Saturday night, is one of those people.
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: He said that he had plans to go do that
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: to himself there on that property. At one point and
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: he ended up not doing it, thank the Lord. Okay,
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: but but he said that there was something that was
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: pulling him there to go do that. It's really sad.
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: It's very heartbreaking. But you know, as in many of
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: these cases, the land requires blood is the message that
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: I get quite often.
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: It's sacrificial. Yep, yes, words of blood.
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: It is so thank you Reverend for mentioning that. And yes,
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: and Northwest Native Tracker, thank you for being here. I've
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: been watching your shows and I absolutely love them. I
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: need to get you on my show sometime. She says,
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: we have black cougars in the Northwest. Yeah, there's the
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: black cougars are pretty much everywhere, even though they say
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: they're not out there. We call it, we say black panthers,
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: and they're like, it's technically, I think there's supposed to
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: be black cougars, right, Bruce. And that's kind of how
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: I feel like people get away with saying we don't
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: have black panthers, But really there's black cougars.
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: The ones the one spotted in Tennessee from time to time,
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: or mountain lions, black mountain limes. They're just as big
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: as a mountain wine. They're two to three pound cats,
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: so that's a big cat it is.
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: You don't want one of those sneaking up on you
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: at night, most definitely don't. But let's see, I had
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: a couple more things I wanted to talk about actually
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: with the pity Pat, okay, because I think we're getting
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: the idea that the pity Pat is probably most likely
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: has always been a big black cougar or something. Probably,
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: But it's not to say there's not a whole lot
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: of other stuff out in the woods. There's also some
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: ghosts out there. And and if you drive down the road,
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: there's a street called cap Elsia. I don't know if
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: that's how you pronounced it or not, but there was
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: a steamboat named Captain Samuel p Elsa or Elsie who
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: who actually had a bizarre encounter with the pity Pat.
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: Let's talk about what the captain saw, Okay. So when
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: he was headed back to his home in the Hauller
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: late one night, he was riding his horse, he noticed
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: a shadowy figure in the distance. He said that it
- 1:06:06Speaker 1: was the same exact area where that wagon had crashed
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: and the young child was taken. And he said it
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: was just a few hundred meals past the old mill dam.
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: He said that he'd heard about the legend, and so
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: when he saw this strange creature in the shadows, he panicked.
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: He turned his horse, a Kentucky Thoroughbred, around and headed
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: to the first house that he could find. He was
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: so scared that he pounded on the door. The owner
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: opened the door, and he ran in the house and
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: he basically demanded that the person who owns a house
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: scowed over in his bed because he was going to
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: stay the night. Now that sounds odd, okay, But for
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: a man, especially a man who was a steamboat captain,
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: they should be fearless, Bruce. But they say that the
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: story goes that he was so scared that he got
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: the homeowner just scoot over in his bed.
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: Yeah it was what story? Yeah? Uh, it terrified him
- 1:07:03Speaker 2: so bad that he wouldn't even sleep in one of
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: the rooms by ourself. So he slept in the room
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: with them, and uh, it was him and his wife,
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: and then the steamboat captain jumped in on the side
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: the husband was on because he wasn't about to go
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: to sleep. He stayed up.
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: Oh I just would have stayed up and locked the
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: door and been happy to be in somebody's house. I
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: think I don't know if I'd made him scoot over
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: in the bed. That's weird. Well, times are different, yeah,
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: I guess, but I think that's kind of funny. But
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: that's another one of the pretty well known stories about this.
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: And uh, and of course, uh, it's it's like you
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: said earlier, it's been known to spook horses, and and
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: that's that could actually be quite quite dangerous as well, right, Uh,
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: scaring a horse, especially if you're riding on or whatever.
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: But you know, horses are scared by big cats. Okay,
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: any kind of low ground. I mean, how many times
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: have we watcheddeos of alleged skin walkers and stuff. There's
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: videos all over the internet you can find of people
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: riding their horses out west and they hear a voice
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: saying help me or hello, or you know, making some
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: kind of disembodied voice you call your name. The horses
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: react to it, absolutely react to it, almost like maybe
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: there's an infrasound or something, or it's just the bad juju,
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: the bad vibes. I guess it's putting off. Yeah, the
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: energetic brick wall, as I like to say, that's that's
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: something that the bigfoots can do as well, though, and
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: the bigfoots are also able to vocalize and stuff. So
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: that's why I'm kind of making the argument here, if
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: you want to call it an argument. There's a I
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: have a theory that this is not just one animal
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: out there. I think there's probably several animals out there
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: or creatures out there that have been wreaking havoc on
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: this area for quite some time. And and like you
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: said while ago, there's also tales of ghosts down there,
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: and it could be the woman. I don't think the
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: woman didn't die. I don't think it was in the
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: first accident. Her baby disappeared.
- 1:09:10Speaker 2: Yep, she's still hunting her baby.
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: I'm sure when she did die she went back now
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: look for her child, right, yeah, I would you.
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: Well, the story, the story I heard from the locals there,
- 1:09:24Speaker 2: is that she pretty much stayed on that road every day,
- 1:09:29Speaker 2: going through those woods when she was alive, trying to
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: find that child, whether it was dead or alive. She
- 1:09:36Speaker 2: wanted the child back so she could have a Christian burial.
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: Oh that's so sad, so tragic, and Northwest Native tractor
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: tracker says along the Columbia River. We have a cryptid
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: called the click a Tat cat. It's a large cat
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: with a primate like face. Oh that sounds scary. It's
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: almost it kind of sounds like a I mean, it doesn't.
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: I don't know. I keep trying to make the connection
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: to to the wampus cat as well. You know, historically
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: there have been tales of animals with like human faces
- 1:10:14Speaker 1: as well, and I know the cat with a primate
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: face similarly looked like a kind of like a human
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: a little bit. But but you know one that I'm
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: thinking of, Bruce as the bell Witch case. You remember
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: that there was a horse or a donkey that had
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: a human's face. I think, right, remember that.
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: Yes, there has been so much come out of that area.
- 1:10:40Speaker 2: And I actually they were crews that went in have
- 1:10:44Speaker 2: actually got good video, but it's never been released.
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: Who did the video?
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: Uh, there was two or three different TV crews that
- 1:10:55Speaker 2: went in there and were guided in and got some
- 1:10:59Speaker 2: incredible photo but it was never released. And when I
- 1:11:05Speaker 2: when I asked, I knew one of the guys that
- 1:11:08Speaker 2: were there when the photos were taken because he was
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: part of the crew, and he said they had so
- 1:11:14Speaker 2: much bad luck from uh within days from wrecking vehicles,
- 1:11:19Speaker 2: from broken legs, hospital visits, standing in the hospital lapses,
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: and memory loss that they refused to release the video.
- 1:11:31Speaker 1: What that is wild? Well, I mean you mentioned that
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: you didn't want to take a picture or video of that.
- 1:11:37Speaker 2: Skull no respect.
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure that the spirits
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: and the entities on that land are sick and tired
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: of being sick and tired of all the all the
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: hookle on, all the all the traffic they get out there.
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: I would think, right cursed, right.
- 1:11:56Speaker 2: If I went to Adams, Tennessee to that cave. You
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: don't even have to go to that cave. Just go
- 1:12:03Speaker 2: to that field. It used to be a soybean pieled.
- 1:12:05Speaker 2: I don't know what it is now. Uh, there's a
- 1:12:08Speaker 2: field there and a tree, a huge tree in the
- 1:12:11Speaker 2: center of that field. Even if you go there, you're
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: going to get an attachment.
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh well, I kind of joked around because like
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: I want to go to Belwich Cave, like I do.
- 1:12:27Speaker 1: I just want to go once, right, But I also
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: want to wear like a rubber rubber boots, so like
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: none of that, only I don't want nothing to get
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: stuck to my clothing. I don't want to leave there
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: with anything, and I want to get a water hose
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: and wash off my feet and everything before I leave.
- 1:12:44Speaker 2: Just go if you do it, just go to the
- 1:12:46Speaker 2: creek down down below the cave and sit down there
- 1:12:49Speaker 2: and just wash your boots out and make sure you
- 1:12:53Speaker 2: get everything out of the threads of it. And if not,
- 1:12:57Speaker 2: leave the boots there, get you a cheap pair of
- 1:12:59Speaker 2: rubber boots from Walmart and leave the boots there.
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: I'm going to get some of those booties that like
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: the surgeons put on their feet when they go in Sury.
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: Just wear those, take them off, throw them, throw them
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: away when you leave. And uh, yeah, I don't know.
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I don't want to go there, but I do.
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: I do, but I don't, you know, I just want
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: to experience that once. I want to go with John
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: Bell's great grandson. Actually, yeah, Derek, if you're watching this,
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: I need to get in touch with Derek. He's been
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: on the show before. He came on the show a
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: couple of years ago and we talked about I don't
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: know if we talked about the Bell Witch. I think
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: we did. But he's John Bill's grandson.
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: Do you talk about the orbs there?
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: No, I don't think so.
- 1:13:42Speaker 2: That build there is full of orbs and many different
- 1:13:47Speaker 2: color orbs. And then people that go there of a
- 1:13:51Speaker 2: daytime to go back there. I have seen seen the
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: orbs and then they build something walk through them to
- 1:14:01Speaker 2: where they just stops them in their tracks and then
- 1:14:04Speaker 2: they instantly get cold, and it'd be eighty ninety degrees
- 1:14:08Speaker 2: outside and just a few minutes they warm back up. Wow,
- 1:14:14Speaker 2: but they get a week feelings, keep that weak feeling
- 1:14:17Speaker 2: for a couple of days.
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: Well, that would indicate to me that those orbs would
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: be more of a spiritual nature, like a ghost, a
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: container for a spirit or a soul. I think, what
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: do you think?
- 1:14:30Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, And I think that's what wipes them out.
- 1:14:34Speaker 2: Some of them get really bad headaches. Some some that
- 1:14:38Speaker 2: walk through there before they even get to the cable
- 1:14:40Speaker 2: end up having to go back to their vehicle because
- 1:14:44Speaker 2: they get really bad headaches.
- 1:14:48Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know. That was one thing that I
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: got when I was at the when I went hiking
- 1:14:52Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and I got overheated and
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: I saw something. I saw some strange creatures out there
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: thought were dear, but then they were dogs. It was
- 1:14:59Speaker 1: just really weird. But I got a really bad I
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: don't ever get migraines except for when I got hit
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: with some infrasound while back, and I kind of had
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: the same symptoms when I got home when I got
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: hit with eversound.
- 1:15:15Speaker 2: By the time you hear an infrasound, you're already sapt.
- 1:15:18Speaker 2: It started out low below our hearing level and come
- 1:15:21Speaker 2: into our heav hearing level and go to a high pitch.
- 1:15:25Speaker 2: But by the time you're here it you hear it,
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: you're already sapped. And if you hang around too long,
- 1:15:32Speaker 2: then you really get sick. On both ends, if you
- 1:15:36Speaker 2: know what.
- 1:15:36Speaker 1: I mean, both ends. Things are coming out both.
- 1:15:39Speaker 2: Ends on the nervous system is shot. Yep.
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm just gonna say I thought I
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: had food poisoning, but I'm not going to get into
- 1:15:46Speaker 1: any details. Okay, I was just vomiting. But that's all
- 1:15:50Speaker 1: y'all need to know. Okay, it was. It was rough
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: and uh and it can be, you know, And it's like,
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: what's the difference between like getting it way dehydrated and
- 1:15:59Speaker 1: something I was can water the whole time I was
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: out there, and stuff like, and I was I was
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: pretty hydrated by my standards, By my personal standards, I
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: was hydrated. Uh but I but it was it was
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: hot and uh and my my dog seemed to be
- 1:16:15Speaker 1: fine too so uh but but by my standards, my
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: health standards, that is what I'm saying. Uh, I shouldn't
- 1:16:23Speaker 1: have been that sick over to where I was. I
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: thought I was dying like I really did that night.
- 1:16:30Speaker 1: So it sucked. It really sucked.
- 1:16:32Speaker 2: And sound will do that to you. And like you said,
- 1:16:36Speaker 2: the first thing you'll think, if you've never had it
- 1:16:38Speaker 2: happen to you to where you can figure it out,
- 1:16:42Speaker 2: is that you either eat something or drunk something that
- 1:16:47Speaker 2: didn't set right with you.
- 1:16:49Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Yeah. It's always the sausages. I always go
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: straight to my I'm like, did I cook these all
- 1:16:56Speaker 1: the way? And uh, and I always do. So it's just,
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: you know, stuff we need to be aware of. And
- 1:17:04Speaker 1: for whatever reason, I've either just been totally dehydrated the
- 1:17:08Speaker 1: summer or I have been getting zapped okay a couple
- 1:17:12Speaker 1: of times. And yeah, I always said that I wanted
- 1:17:15Speaker 1: to get zapped at least once, and then I regretted ever,
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: saying that because when what I say usually happens, okay,
- 1:17:22Speaker 1: So like I have to keep my thoughts pure, right
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: and not. Sometimes you get what you wish for and
- 1:17:30Speaker 1: you don't really want that.
- 1:17:31Speaker 2: Ten times over. That's right.
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: And that's the same with even these crypti sightings and stuff.
- 1:17:37Speaker 1: Like people want to they want so bad to see
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: a dog man, they want so bad to see a
- 1:17:41Speaker 1: b foot. But it's very traumatic for a lot of people.
- 1:17:43Speaker 2: Bruce, Yes, yes, yes, I've had people with me that
- 1:17:48Speaker 2: their first dog man siding with me. They won't go back.
- 1:17:52Speaker 2: I mean it's they won't even talk about it. It's
- 1:17:55Speaker 2: over with for them, you know. They go home and
- 1:17:58Speaker 2: they talk. One guy, his dad, he's seventy something years old,
- 1:18:02Speaker 2: that was with me that all he did was want
- 1:18:05Speaker 2: to see one mon He got to see one. It
- 1:18:07Speaker 2: scared him so bad and messed with him so bad.
- 1:18:10Speaker 2: He gets home and his dad knows there's something wrong
- 1:18:13Speaker 2: with him. And I asked him what happened, and he
- 1:18:16Speaker 2: didn't want to talk about it, and his dad said, yeah,
- 1:18:18Speaker 2: you went with Bruce and got with something other. You
- 1:18:21Speaker 2: got something on you, didn't you. And he was like yeah,
- 1:18:24Speaker 2: he said, what did you see? And he told me, so,
- 1:18:26Speaker 2: I told you to stay out in woods. You know.
- 1:18:28Speaker 2: Then wood boogers don't take kindly that, you know. But
- 1:18:34Speaker 2: they didn't do anything. He just scared himself to death
- 1:18:36Speaker 2: by seeing one.
- 1:18:37Speaker 1: Yeah, that was his own fears coming true.
- 1:18:41Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:18:42Speaker 1: And you know something that I've been seeing a lot,
- 1:18:45Speaker 1: and this is something that's kind of being pushed out
- 1:18:47Speaker 1: to the public for whatever reason. It is out there.
- 1:18:50Speaker 1: The people from Skinwalker Ranch are repeatedly talking about this
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: on interviews that I've been watching, and also people that
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: there have been, you know, Three Letter Agency guys, intel
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: officers have been reporting that they're having these hitchhiker effects
- 1:19:05Speaker 1: from places like Skinwalker Ranch. People go there. You know.
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: Bigelow talked about having hitchhikers that were affecting him and
- 1:19:12Speaker 1: his wife. The new owner of Skinwalker Ranch claims that
- 1:19:16Speaker 1: he's had to hitch hikers and people who have gone
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: there for you know, they're just using that as a
- 1:19:21Speaker 1: testing ground, I think, studying and testing probably weaponry and
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: frequency weapons and god knows what.
- 1:19:31Speaker 2: There are some people talking about a new ranch adjacent
- 1:19:34Speaker 2: to that, called the Bradshaw. Have you heard anything about that?
- 1:19:38Speaker 1: I have, I have, I've heard about it. It's very
- 1:19:41Speaker 1: similar to that place. I mean to me, here's my
- 1:19:45Speaker 1: take on this. I think that these are places. Yes,
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: they have there, naturally, they have all this energy flow
- 1:19:50Speaker 1: right there. But I think that these private corporations and
- 1:19:55Speaker 1: working alongside our governments and agencies, are using that it's
- 1:19:59Speaker 1: just testing grounds.
- 1:20:01Speaker 2: Well here here in the last few years, the government
- 1:20:05Speaker 2: pays private agencies to go in and do this and
- 1:20:09Speaker 2: keep their name out of it. It keeps the government's
- 1:20:13Speaker 2: name out of it. So they will bund it under
- 1:20:16Speaker 2: the table under disguise. And I think you know that's
- 1:20:24Speaker 2: what happens originally the Skinwalker Ranch.
- 1:20:27Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I think so too. I think you're right.
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: And uh, but they're they're very much pushing the hitchhiker
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: effect right now into the public. And it may be
- 1:20:38Speaker 1: just part of the soft disclosure that's going on right now,
- 1:20:40Speaker 1: or letting people know, like, hey, we're admitting that there
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: are entities that will attach to you when you are
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: in places of high strangeness like this and the one
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: the intel officer claimed that he had left. They didn't
- 1:20:53Speaker 1: say it was Skinwalker Inch, but I'm going to say
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: it was probably Skinwalker Inch. He flew home to d
- 1:20:59Speaker 1: C from out there? What does that U saw? I
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: think it flew home and he had a dog man
- 1:21:04Speaker 1: in his backyard, No, a werewolf. And so let's just
- 1:21:09Speaker 1: say that, like he really was dealing with skin walkers
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: out there, or some sort of a dog man or
- 1:21:14Speaker 1: something they do. I don't want to say hunt you down,
- 1:21:18Speaker 1: but you've had that happen to you when you went home.
- 1:21:20Speaker 1: You asked me, you know when I told you that
- 1:21:21Speaker 1: I had gotten kind of I had gone on a
- 1:21:23Speaker 1: hike that day before I got really sick. I had
- 1:21:25Speaker 1: messaged with you that night that day and you're like, well,
- 1:21:29Speaker 1: I told you what I saw, those like shape shifting
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: dog deer And you're like, well, you didn't take a
- 1:21:35Speaker 1: direct route home, did you? And I was like no,
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: I made a couple of stops, you know, because they
- 1:21:40Speaker 1: could follow me home right right.
- 1:21:43Speaker 2: And they will.
- 1:21:44Speaker 1: Yeah, how dangerous is that? Bruce?
- 1:21:48Speaker 2: I would say it could get really DANGEROUSHP it if
- 1:21:51Speaker 2: you didn't catch it right off, it could get it
- 1:21:58Speaker 2: could get really bad. And dog men, the dog men
- 1:22:03Speaker 2: part of it, they're more curious about us. I'm not
- 1:22:08Speaker 2: running any that any attacked me. I mean, they've tore
- 1:22:11Speaker 2: my vehicle, up, but they've been more curious, you know.
- 1:22:21Speaker 2: The only one, the only encryptid. I thought that Mike
- 1:22:23Speaker 2: kill me, I could get a hold of me was
- 1:22:26Speaker 2: a big butt, But later I found out was a
- 1:22:28Speaker 2: shaming and higher up in the clan. So it maybe
- 1:22:35Speaker 2: just was just trying to run us off by chasing
- 1:22:40Speaker 2: us and running us down the road behind the truck.
- 1:22:45Speaker 2: But the dog man that followed me home followed me
- 1:22:48Speaker 2: home eighteen miles and I left there and made a
- 1:22:52Speaker 2: direct line home, but I had to stop behind school
- 1:22:55Speaker 2: buses and stuff. So from the next one that tried
- 1:23:00Speaker 2: to follow me home, I left state of Tennessee and
- 1:23:03Speaker 2: went into Kentucky and made my way through three or
- 1:23:06Speaker 2: four counties and stopped at two Kentucky towns and had
- 1:23:11Speaker 2: coffee and hung around for thirty to forty five minutes
- 1:23:16Speaker 2: just talking about the weather and country stuff with the
- 1:23:19Speaker 2: people that was there at the store. And then when
- 1:23:22Speaker 2: I went home, I didn't have any problems with it.
- 1:23:24Speaker 2: It didn't follow me home.
- 1:23:26Speaker 1: Oh gosh. Yeah, After you said that to me, I
- 1:23:30Speaker 1: was like, ooh, maybe I should have gone by the
- 1:23:32Speaker 1: waffle house and had some coffee or something there. You go, Yeah,
- 1:23:35Speaker 1: gotten some tea or something, because it is it is,
- 1:23:39Speaker 1: It is very real. You know the investigation that I
- 1:23:42Speaker 1: did on Thursday, the farm, the lady has a she
- 1:23:50Speaker 1: was telling me about a it's sounding like a dog men.
- 1:23:54Speaker 1: It's either a dog in or beef foods walking around
- 1:23:56Speaker 1: her house at night. You can hear it circle in
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: the house, walking around like on two legs, two feet
- 1:24:01Speaker 1: and you're needed on her house now. To me, I
- 1:24:05Speaker 1: have heard multiple stories of that. Bruce, I was going
- 1:24:07Speaker 1: to ask you about that. What do you think about dogmen?
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: And I don't know, maybe bigfoot do it too, But
- 1:24:13Speaker 1: have you heard about dogmn urinating on people's property in
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: their houses like marked territory or something.
- 1:24:18Speaker 2: That's exactly what they're doing. They're marking their territory. And
- 1:24:22Speaker 2: they've accepted her. If a big butt does it, and
- 1:24:27Speaker 2: she can confirm it's a big put, then she has
- 1:24:29Speaker 2: nothing to worry about because they'll protect her at all costs.
- 1:24:35Speaker 2: Nobody's going to come around her property to mess with her.
- 1:24:39Speaker 2: I can't give a name, but I know a woman
- 1:24:41Speaker 2: right now that her and her elderly mother live in
- 1:24:45Speaker 2: the house and they have a big pot and they
- 1:24:48Speaker 2: named him, and if anybody comes up a salesman or
- 1:24:52Speaker 2: anybody down their driveway, they get the holy craps carried
- 1:24:56Speaker 2: out of them and sometimes their vehicles won't start and
- 1:25:01Speaker 2: stuff until they come out, and they will say out
- 1:25:05Speaker 2: loud and call this bigfoot's name, please let them leave,
- 1:25:09Speaker 2: we want them to leave, and their vehicles will start up.
- 1:25:12Speaker 2: I mean, it's some of the wildest stuff I've ever seen.
- 1:25:16Speaker 1: Well, so they're manipulating energy out.
- 1:25:18Speaker 2: There, yes, yep.
- 1:25:22Speaker 1: Well, us humans need to learn how to manipulate energy
- 1:25:25Speaker 1: as well. Okay, some of us know how. Okay, just
- 1:25:29Speaker 1: watch Stranger Things, Joel, Okay, and you'll see humans are
- 1:25:33Speaker 1: capable of doing that, by the way, Yes, and just
- 1:25:36Speaker 1: have to to learn how to do it, how to
- 1:25:38Speaker 1: focus your energy on that, right, and to stay calm, right, Bruce,
- 1:25:42Speaker 1: stay calm.
- 1:25:43Speaker 2: If you can calmness, calmness will get you out of
- 1:25:47Speaker 2: a bad situation. Uh. It'll cause you to h to
- 1:25:51Speaker 2: make good decisions instead of bad decisions. And you know,
- 1:25:55Speaker 2: if you have if you have something like that, if
- 1:25:59Speaker 2: you're in the woods and come across a big butt
- 1:26:01Speaker 2: and he's screaming at you, just stays calm every now
- 1:26:05Speaker 2: and then I'll scream back and I'll try to make
- 1:26:08Speaker 2: myself look as big as I possibly can, and sometimes
- 1:26:13Speaker 2: they will just stare at me. After that and there's
- 1:26:16Speaker 2: no more hollering, and I'll gently go one way and
- 1:26:21Speaker 2: they'll gently go third way.
- 1:26:24Speaker 1: You're gonna out crazy, the crazy, That's what I like
- 1:26:26Speaker 1: to say. Yeah, actually I was. Okay, so I know
- 1:26:29Speaker 1: this sounds crazy, but I was doing something. I was
- 1:26:32Speaker 1: doing some kind of digging on snake bites this week.
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: Don't ask me why, I just I have been. I
- 1:26:37Speaker 1: got stuck on like an algorithm of watching people get
- 1:26:40Speaker 1: bit by snakes.
- 1:26:42Speaker 2: Don't don't manifest it.
- 1:26:44Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not manifested. But but this kid, by
- 1:26:47Speaker 1: the way, there was a kid in high I think
- 1:26:50Speaker 1: it was a high school football player out in Arkansas
- 1:26:52Speaker 1: yesterday and this in the news yesterday. He had a
- 1:26:56Speaker 1: large copperhead in his helmet of his set. He was
- 1:27:00Speaker 1: He practiced in the heat for over an hour with
- 1:27:02Speaker 1: a copperhead in his helmet, And somehow I was watching
- 1:27:07Speaker 1: these videos. I actually have the video. If y'all want
- 1:27:09Speaker 1: to see it, I'll show it.
- 1:27:11Speaker 2: I'll pulled it up. Okay, Yeah, and.
- 1:27:16Speaker 1: Well, Northwest Native Tracker, thank you for that. Piece of advice.
- 1:27:19Speaker 1: She says, never go into a dark place without a
- 1:27:21Speaker 1: medicine bag on you and cool advice. That's really good advice.
- 1:27:26Speaker 1: Thank you for that. Well, here I have some still
- 1:27:28Speaker 1: shots first. Okay, I just I did some screenshots here.
- 1:27:31Speaker 1: High school football player practices for an hour on y'all.
- 1:27:35Speaker 1: Can you imagine with a venomous snake in his helmet.
- 1:27:39Speaker 1: These are the screenshots that I took. Here. That's the
- 1:27:43Speaker 1: snake and let's see hold on, that's the insight. You
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: can see its head poking out. The kid was saying
- 1:27:49Speaker 1: there was something wrong with his helmet, and so they
- 1:27:53Speaker 1: put his helmet in a bucket. They called animal control
- 1:27:56Speaker 1: out because they saw a snake peeking its head out
- 1:27:58Speaker 1: of his helmet when he took it off after he
- 1:28:00Speaker 1: had worn his helmet for over an hour in the
- 1:28:03Speaker 1: heat and h and this this is what they pulled out.
- 1:28:07Speaker 1: That's a cop that's a copper head. That was like
- 1:28:09Speaker 1: a cotton mouth. Watermos into me.
- 1:28:12Speaker 2: It does me too, uh uh. Copperhead here is more
- 1:28:16Speaker 2: of a copper color that's kind of black.
- 1:28:18Speaker 1: And the morble cotton mouth.
- 1:28:20Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's got the viper head. So whatever it is,
- 1:28:24Speaker 2: it is extremely poisonous. Uh. Wouldn't that be bad opraor
- 1:28:28Speaker 2: a young man to get bit in the head playing football?
- 1:28:32Speaker 2: It was properly kill him.
- 1:28:34Speaker 1: Yeah, it ain't gonna be good, Bruce, that's for sure. Okay,
- 1:28:37Speaker 1: let me pull this up. I've got the full video
- 1:28:39Speaker 1: right here. Let make sure it's okay. Here we go.
- 1:28:43Speaker 1: Hold on, let me pause it. The venomous snake all right,
- 1:28:47Speaker 1: let me share my screen. Yeah, that's it. That look
- 1:28:49Speaker 1: was like a that's a cotton mouth right there. I
- 1:28:52Speaker 1: don't know why I kept saying copperhead. Hold on one second,
- 1:28:56Speaker 1: we're gonna this is from CBS News. I believe this
- 1:28:58Speaker 1: is on TikTok. Uh, y'all go over to the cryptid
- 1:29:01Speaker 1: Huntress on TikTok. This is CBS News on their TikTok channel.
- 1:29:06Speaker 1: And uh, and I'm not going to play the volume
- 1:29:08Speaker 1: on it, okay. But this is it coming out of
- 1:29:11Speaker 1: the helmet and they put it. They immersed it in
- 1:29:15Speaker 1: the water so that it would start to drown basically
- 1:29:17Speaker 1: or have to get its head out. And look, the
- 1:29:19Speaker 1: animal control grabbed it as it came out. That was
- 1:29:22Speaker 1: in this young man's helmet right there.
- 1:29:25Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
- 1:29:27Speaker 1: That's crazy. Let's see. Yeah, I'm trying to see what
- 1:29:32Speaker 1: people are saying over here in the comment. Yeah it's
- 1:29:35Speaker 1: a moccasin. Yeah, that's definitely a cotton mouth right there. Jolly.
- 1:29:41Speaker 1: I know people get weirded out by snakes. Okay, I
- 1:29:44Speaker 1: do too. I used to have a pet snake. But
- 1:29:48Speaker 1: that happened. That was in the news yesterday, and uh,
- 1:29:51Speaker 1: and I was I think I was looking for that
- 1:29:53Speaker 1: video actually of the man that was pushing over plywood
- 1:29:56Speaker 1: and this brattlesnake bit him in the face.
- 1:29:59Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, oh man, I couldn't. My father used to
- 1:30:04Speaker 2: be on us, get on this boys real bad. He'd
- 1:30:06Speaker 2: want he'd want us to wear them on mule skin
- 1:30:09Speaker 2: leather gloves. We would remove ten stacks of tin, and
- 1:30:15Speaker 2: there were boards that were stacked up because you know,
- 1:30:19Speaker 2: he said, you pull one up and you get bit.
- 1:30:22Speaker 2: And if you got it, if you saw it quick enough,
- 1:30:24Speaker 2: you could grab behind the head with that leather glove
- 1:30:29Speaker 2: and be able to get away from you. So but
- 1:30:32Speaker 2: he said, uh, he was bitten by reaching. They had
- 1:30:36Speaker 2: a stack of tin and they were re tinting the
- 1:30:39Speaker 2: smokehouse and when he reached down to get that tin,
- 1:30:42Speaker 2: when he picked the tin up, it bit him on
- 1:30:45Speaker 2: this side of the hand. And it was a copper head,
- 1:30:48Speaker 2: a small copper head. But he went to the doctor
- 1:30:54Speaker 2: and I don't think they'd give him any venom. They
- 1:30:59Speaker 2: just give him some shots and that was it. But
- 1:31:01Speaker 2: it was a copperhead. He took it. Uh uh. He
- 1:31:06Speaker 2: chopped the head off of it and took the head
- 1:31:08Speaker 2: and the slate and put it in the bag and
- 1:31:09Speaker 2: took it to the r with him.
- 1:31:11Speaker 1: Oh man, that's what That's what we've always been told that,
- 1:31:15Speaker 1: you know, because I mean I come up in the
- 1:31:16Speaker 1: country too. I grew up on a farm, and and
- 1:31:18Speaker 1: we always were told, you know, if if you get
- 1:31:21Speaker 1: bit by a snake, you gotta basically got to kill
- 1:31:24Speaker 1: it and then you put it in a bag or
- 1:31:26Speaker 1: something to take it to the emergency room with you.
- 1:31:28Speaker 1: But today they say, they say, you don't really have
- 1:31:30Speaker 1: to do that today. I mean, everybody's got a phone
- 1:31:32Speaker 1: in their hand now, you just take a picture if
- 1:31:34Speaker 1: you need to. But they say that there's just a there.
- 1:31:37Speaker 1: It's actually like universal anti venom. Now, is what else
- 1:31:41Speaker 1: I just read that somewhere that you don't have that
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: it's not specific to each of the different snakes, you
- 1:31:46Speaker 1: can take it a universal one.
- 1:31:48Speaker 2: They in law enforcements I trained just when we come
- 1:31:52Speaker 2: up on those victims to bring the snake because they
- 1:31:55Speaker 2: can test the venom glands and see if it had
- 1:32:01Speaker 2: bitten or eating a squirrel or struck another barment before
- 1:32:07Speaker 2: it did them. Then you wouldn't get a deadly dosle
- 1:32:12Speaker 2: bent him from a big rattler. Now, our neighbor, I
- 1:32:17Speaker 2: can't think his name right now, right on the tip
- 1:32:19Speaker 2: of my tongue. He lived up a mile from us,
- 1:32:25Speaker 2: and he walked up to his spring and found some
- 1:32:27Speaker 2: gen Sang plants. He was just checking on his spring spring,
- 1:32:31Speaker 2: gravity floated into his home and next to a log
- 1:32:36Speaker 2: there where there was a patch of gensang. So he
- 1:32:39Speaker 2: just got down on his knees digging the gen sing
- 1:32:43Speaker 2: and when he went to stand up, a big timber
- 1:32:46Speaker 2: rattler hit him below the knee and broke his leg.
- 1:32:51Speaker 2: Oh my god, they hit him so hard, he told me.
- 1:32:55Speaker 2: He said it felt like somebody swung back with a
- 1:32:57Speaker 2: luminum baseball bat and hit him in the left with
- 1:33:00Speaker 2: everything they had. So he was in the hospital for
- 1:33:03Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. Of course, they had anti venom
- 1:33:06Speaker 2: in Nashville that they flew up. Now, I'll take that back.
- 1:33:09Speaker 2: They had any minim in Erlander and Chattanooga and flew
- 1:33:13Speaker 2: it up to cook the hospital to give him. The
- 1:33:16Speaker 2: man a venom shot, but he stayed longer in the
- 1:33:19Speaker 2: hospital over the broken leg.
- 1:33:22Speaker 1: Oh god, man, that was like that video. I saw
- 1:33:26Speaker 1: that saying I have talked about I swear I've talked
- 1:33:28Speaker 1: about this video every day for the past week. On
- 1:33:31Speaker 1: my show, I bring up this rattlesnake view. I've got
- 1:33:34Speaker 1: to find this and show it in the audience. I
- 1:33:35Speaker 1: couldn't find it on TikTok. I don't think. I think
- 1:33:37Speaker 1: TikTok may have, you know, deleted it or something. I
- 1:33:40Speaker 1: couldn't find it, but it's on Instagram. But this this
- 1:33:44Speaker 1: snake hits this man so hard in his face when
- 1:33:48Speaker 1: he opens it, and it strikes from so far away,
- 1:33:51Speaker 1: it just looks unreal and uh and it hit him
- 1:33:54Speaker 1: hard right on his forehead, and uh, yeah, I can't imagine.
- 1:34:00Speaker 1: I mean, it can knock it, you can knock you out.
- 1:34:02Speaker 1: I would think that's how hard they hit.
- 1:34:04Speaker 2: My first encounter with the rattlesnakes as we was on
- 1:34:12Speaker 2: a military base in Florida, and Florida is nothing but
- 1:34:18Speaker 2: sand and as the playground set, my brother and four
- 1:34:26Speaker 2: more other boys has found a nest of baby rattlesnakes
- 1:34:32Speaker 2: and they were playing with them. Well, their teeth are
- 1:34:35Speaker 2: so small, they're like little needles. Well, my brother got
- 1:34:40Speaker 2: bitten a couple of times. But this other boy who
- 1:34:43Speaker 2: actually found him, he got bit ten or eleven. Well,
- 1:34:45Speaker 2: he died there on the playground. Oh no, And they
- 1:34:49Speaker 2: rest my brother and the rest of us to the
- 1:34:52Speaker 2: hospital to check us out. Of course. Uh, they give
- 1:34:57Speaker 2: him some kind of anti venom, but the rest of us,
- 1:35:00Speaker 2: they didn't find any marks on us. And we were
- 1:35:02Speaker 2: all playing. We thought there were nightcrawlers. They were just
- 1:35:05Speaker 2: little big night crawlers. We thought they were like, you know,
- 1:35:09Speaker 2: eight inch night crawlers. But they were little bitty copperheads.
- 1:35:14Speaker 1: Oh my god.
- 1:35:16Speaker 2: What or rattlesnakes. I mean, there were sand rattlers. They
- 1:35:20Speaker 2: called them sand rattlers.
- 1:35:23Speaker 1: Oh. Kids are like, hey, let's go fishing with these worms.
- 1:35:28Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, Oh that's horrible.
- 1:35:31Speaker 1: Yeah. They're actually more potent. They're poison is more potent,
- 1:35:35Speaker 1: and these little ones and they are even in the
- 1:35:36Speaker 1: big ones sometimes it's according.
- 1:35:38Speaker 2: To your the big ones eat eat quite a bit
- 1:35:40Speaker 2: if they uh, if you. I was jen sing hunting
- 1:35:45Speaker 2: with my son and I didn't know at that time
- 1:35:49Speaker 2: I needed glasses, and I did, but I just didn't
- 1:35:53Speaker 2: want to give it in. Didn't want tomit it.
- 1:35:55Speaker 1: I feel that.
- 1:35:56Speaker 2: One we were walking out a trail off of a
- 1:36:00Speaker 2: point and I stopped stepped over this big limb. Well,
- 1:36:04Speaker 2: he's coming up behind me, just twenty or thirty feet
- 1:36:07Speaker 2: and he hollers, Dad, come back here and look at this,
- 1:36:10Speaker 2: because he had never seen a rattlesnake in the wild.
- 1:36:15Speaker 2: And so we walked back. I turned around, walked back
- 1:36:17Speaker 2: up and it's a timber rattler, the worst. And so
- 1:36:22Speaker 2: he's got a hatchet. He cuts down a limb bigger
- 1:36:25Speaker 2: than your wrist. He goes to pick it up and
- 1:36:30Speaker 2: it breaks the limb. Well I've always told him, I said,
- 1:36:33Speaker 2: we come up one of the woods, don't mess with it.
- 1:36:35Speaker 2: So I'm telling them not to mess with it. But
- 1:36:37Speaker 2: by then he's twenty one, twenty two and he's hard eddy.
- 1:36:41Speaker 2: I said, you know, if it's not messing with us,
- 1:36:43Speaker 2: let's go leave it alone. We don't want to take
- 1:36:45Speaker 2: a chance to getting bit man. Well, it had eat
- 1:36:50Speaker 2: a squirrel, and why he was messing with it. It
- 1:36:53Speaker 2: pushed that squirrel back out, and that's the reason why
- 1:36:57Speaker 2: it didn't strike me, because it's just eating a squirrel
- 1:37:00Speaker 2: when I stepped over, or he would have struck me. Well,
- 1:37:03Speaker 2: we carried it down to the hill, bottom of the hill,
- 1:37:06Speaker 2: to a barn down there, to a man's house. The
- 1:37:09Speaker 2: man had a what you call a feedbag scale, and
- 1:37:13Speaker 2: we weighed and it weighed one hundred and fifteen pounds.
- 1:37:17Speaker 2: What so your talking big part of that big and
- 1:37:23Speaker 2: he was almost ten feet long and he was nothing
- 1:37:26Speaker 2: but solid muscle. Now, we didn't kill it, you know,
- 1:37:33Speaker 2: we didn't kill it. We injured it, but we didn't
- 1:37:35Speaker 2: kill it. And then we took it. We released it.
- 1:37:39Speaker 1: You know, I hate to say that, but I don't know.
- 1:37:43Speaker 1: You know, if it was near my house, I don't
- 1:37:45Speaker 1: think it would have survived that day.
- 1:37:46Speaker 2: Oh no, No, we got it way back on the
- 1:37:49Speaker 2: mountain side, perfect for all intents and purposes. To cover myself.
- 1:37:56Speaker 2: It's illegal to kill him, so we released it unharmed.
- 1:38:03Speaker 1: No belts were made in the making of this story,
- 1:38:06Speaker 1: or belts or boots, Okay, that's terrible. Wow, that is
- 1:38:11Speaker 1: absolutely wild. That's I mean, that's the size of like
- 1:38:14Speaker 1: a big old python or something that's huge.
- 1:38:16Speaker 2: See.
- 1:38:16Speaker 1: And that's the thing about these snakes, these poisonous snakes especially,
- 1:38:19Speaker 1: they get fat like that that snake that I just
- 1:38:22Speaker 1: showed the video of helmet, it's all muscle, and it's
- 1:38:26Speaker 1: just it's it's their short and stubby. A lot of times.
- 1:38:30Speaker 1: That's how the you know, I grew up on a lake.
- 1:38:31Speaker 1: We had a lot of water moccasins and uh, and
- 1:38:34Speaker 1: we had timber rattlers on the farm too.
- 1:38:37Speaker 2: Uh.
- 1:38:37Speaker 1: My brother and sister stepped right over one with my
- 1:38:39Speaker 1: mom one day when they were out walking by the lake.
- 1:38:43Speaker 1: But uh, but the water moccasins are they're vicious and
- 1:38:48Speaker 1: uh and the cotton mouse will come after you. But
- 1:38:50Speaker 1: here's the good thing. We had a lot of king
- 1:38:51Speaker 1: snakes down there by the lake. And the king snakes
- 1:38:54Speaker 1: will eat the water moccasins.
- 1:38:56Speaker 2: Well, blacks Lake will too. We have chicken a chicken snake.
- 1:39:02Speaker 2: We'd got a chicken snake in a barn, and my
- 1:39:05Speaker 2: daddy would make sure nobody killed the chicken snake, but
- 1:39:08Speaker 2: they would kill all the poisonous snakes, and so he
- 1:39:11Speaker 2: had a VHS video and it burned up in the house.
- 1:39:17Speaker 2: But he had showed that and people had borrowed that
- 1:39:20Speaker 2: video from two or three counties to show. In his garden,
- 1:39:25Speaker 2: he had a rattlesnake, a big rattlesnake. Daddy was at
- 1:39:31Speaker 2: that time six'. One the rattlesnake was probably three inches
- 1:39:36Speaker 2: longer than he. Was, well this black racer had come
- 1:39:41Speaker 2: up and was eating the. Rattlesnake he had done swallow
- 1:39:44Speaker 2: two thirds of, them and the rattlesnake, died but the
- 1:39:50Speaker 2: black racer couldn't completely digest. It so to save the black,
- 1:39:54Speaker 2: Racer daddy pulled the rattlesnake out of his.
- 1:39:56Speaker 1: Mouth what a nightmare had be a nightmare for. Me
- 1:40:04Speaker 1: and you got to be careful with these poisonous. Snakes
- 1:40:06Speaker 1: you think they're, dead and they are, dead but their
- 1:40:08Speaker 1: muscles still work and they will still bite you after they're.
- 1:40:11Speaker 2: Dead, yes we, always, Uh daddy always had. Us if
- 1:40:16Speaker 2: he didn't kill, him or we kill one rattlesnake or,
- 1:40:19Speaker 2: copperhead we'd go up on the hill somewhere and take
- 1:40:22Speaker 2: a shovel and jag a put hole deep and put
- 1:40:25Speaker 2: that head in there and cover it up and lat
- 1:40:27Speaker 2: it because he said the head was a deadly. Part
- 1:40:31Speaker 2: that's where the glands, were the poison, Glands and so
- 1:40:35Speaker 2: if you didn't discarded the head, properly somebody could step
- 1:40:38Speaker 2: on that and stick in them to get that. Poison you.
- 1:40:42Speaker 1: Know oh, yeah, yeah you can't trust. IT i, Mean
- 1:40:46Speaker 1: i've seen my share of dead. Snakes. OKAY i grew
- 1:40:49Speaker 1: up on a. Farm we had so many snakes out,
- 1:40:53Speaker 1: there and my dad never pass up an opportunity to
- 1:40:56Speaker 1: lop a head off with a. Shovel i'm just, saying you,
- 1:40:58Speaker 1: KNOW i hate to say, that But i've seen some weird.
- 1:41:00Speaker 1: Stuff and, UH i mean because they were. Poisonous, okay
- 1:41:04Speaker 1: there wasn't just any. Snake i'm talking about the poisonous.
- 1:41:06Speaker 1: Ones and, uh when you have three children running around
- 1:41:09Speaker 1: a yard all the, time you, know playing on the play,
- 1:41:12Speaker 1: set going down the lake and you, know riding four
- 1:41:15Speaker 1: wheelers whatever we were out there, doing you, know you
- 1:41:17Speaker 1: can't be having poisoned snakes just sitting, around you, know
- 1:41:20Speaker 1: sliding around the play sets and stuff and on the.
- 1:41:22Speaker 1: Porch so we had. To dad took care of, business,
- 1:41:27Speaker 1: Okay and, uh sometimes and uh and and SO i
- 1:41:30Speaker 1: BUT i was able to, see like even with the
- 1:41:32Speaker 1: head chopped, off that head can still bite. You and
- 1:41:36Speaker 1: and so that's something that always scared the living crap.
- 1:41:38Speaker 1: OUT i, MEAN i still don't like it to this
- 1:41:40Speaker 1: day thinking about. It but but, yeah it's, uh snakes
- 1:41:46Speaker 1: are out in record number right. Now somebody in the
- 1:41:49Speaker 1: chat had just said, that and, uh and that's one
- 1:41:51Speaker 1: hundred percent. Right please be careful out there with the, snakes,
- 1:41:53Speaker 1: y'all especially, us you, know crypti field, researchers people camping and.
- 1:41:57Speaker 1: Hiking it's a very dangerous time right. Now for whatever.
- 1:42:00Speaker 1: Reason the snakes are out full force right. Now and,
- 1:42:04Speaker 1: uh so don't go kicking over plywood if you don't
- 1:42:08Speaker 1: have to right now.
- 1:42:09Speaker 2: When we're in what they call the dog days and
- 1:42:14Speaker 2: they're shedding their old skin and their new skin is real,
- 1:42:19Speaker 2: tender so they're hurting so about anything that comes close to,
- 1:42:23Speaker 2: him and especially if you step on, him you're gonna get.
- 1:42:26Speaker 1: Bit you're gonna get, bit that's, Right and so just.
- 1:42:31Speaker 1: Don't AND i need to quit watching so many snake
- 1:42:33Speaker 1: videos people GETTING i don't know Why i've been SO
- 1:42:37Speaker 1: i gotten the. Algorithm so the computer did it for. Me, Okay,
- 1:42:40Speaker 1: uh BUT i still my curiosity has gotten the best of.
- 1:42:44Speaker 1: Me and, uh AND i have it's it's impressive watching
- 1:42:48Speaker 1: those snakes. Bite i'm just saying it.
- 1:42:50Speaker 2: Is my superstitions won't let me watch that BECAUSE i
- 1:42:55Speaker 2: get it in my. Head and WHEN i go to
- 1:42:56Speaker 2: the woods AND i see, One i'm, like, YEAH i
- 1:43:00Speaker 2: shouldn't have been watching that. Stuff you.
- 1:43:02Speaker 1: Know that's WHY i have my my walking stick that
- 1:43:05Speaker 1: pops maybe And gary maymi walk us. There i'm gonna
- 1:43:07Speaker 1: CARRY i carry that with me on all my walking. Trips.
- 1:43:11Speaker 1: Oops and, uh.
- 1:43:13Speaker 2: That'll.
- 1:43:14Speaker 1: Help maybe that'll help keep them at. Bay, Okay AND
- 1:43:17Speaker 1: i just.
- 1:43:17Speaker 2: Hope so it's a good pair of snake boots or snake,
- 1:43:21Speaker 2: chaps snake chaps or a little up on your. Legs,
- 1:43:23Speaker 2: yes the slack boots are better now now they've come
- 1:43:27Speaker 2: out with pretty good. Brands they got the cameouflage. Ones
- 1:43:29Speaker 2: it's super light like tennis, shoes and they breathe, good
- 1:43:32Speaker 2: and they come up about the knees and they're not
- 1:43:37Speaker 2: they're not hot on.
- 1:43:38Speaker 1: You that's the worst. Part that's the only REASON i
- 1:43:41Speaker 1: DON'T i haven't been wearing snake. CHAPS i actually have
- 1:43:43Speaker 1: a set of snake, chaps AND i do have a
- 1:43:46Speaker 1: set of, them and they are very, hot and it's
- 1:43:50Speaker 1: already hot as hades out, there and SO i don't,
- 1:43:54Speaker 1: KNOW i, know with all the snake, Talk i'm gonna
- 1:43:56Speaker 1: have to start wearing.
- 1:43:57Speaker 2: Them. Now we'll get, you get you a set of
- 1:44:00Speaker 2: uh high top. Boots uh huh. Work you, know they
- 1:44:05Speaker 2: worked just as they, worked just as good as snap
- 1:44:07Speaker 2: snake chaps or snap.
- 1:44:09Speaker 1: BOOTS i, Mean i'm getting sweaty just thinking about wearing those.
- 1:44:12Speaker 1: Things they're so, hot, Right, YEAH i had to wear
- 1:44:15Speaker 1: shorts next TIME i go, out shorts and muck. Boots,
- 1:44:18Speaker 1: okay next TIME i go. Hiking but BUT i want
- 1:44:21Speaker 1: to thank a couple of people in the chat right.
- 1:44:23Speaker 1: Now thank You amy for gifting a Kryptin huntress hunt club.
- 1:44:26Speaker 1: Membership that is so sweet of. YOU i appreciate your
- 1:44:28Speaker 1: support so. Much oh, god oh my, GOD i just
- 1:44:30Speaker 1: got it shaky BECAUSE i felt.
- 1:44:32Speaker 2: Something you forgot to put your sunglasses.
- 1:44:37Speaker 1: On something started moving with the wires in my microphone.
- 1:44:40Speaker 1: MOVING i thought it was a. Snake the guys saw
- 1:44:45Speaker 1: me jump live on. Camera that was a jump skier
- 1:44:48Speaker 1: THAT i just scared myself on talking about dang. It Oh, Man, Candies,
- 1:44:54Speaker 1: Zippy thank You candy so, much great show, today, guys
- 1:44:56Speaker 1: thanks for coming, On, Bruce she.
- 1:44:58Speaker 2: Says thank, You, yeah thank, her thank her for. WATCHING
- 1:45:02Speaker 2: i hope you.
- 1:45:02Speaker 1: And willow are doing. Awesome. Candy she's down In florida
- 1:45:05Speaker 1: where they do have a lot of. Snakes they actually
- 1:45:08Speaker 1: have snake roundups down. There, bruce would you ever be
- 1:45:11Speaker 1: willing to go do a, snake a, python, anaconda boa round?
- 1:45:14Speaker 2: Up? Oh, Yeah i'd love to do. That, yeah that
- 1:45:18Speaker 2: would be, Yes, YES i know about.
- 1:45:21Speaker 1: THAT i don't. KNOW i SAID i wanted to. GO
- 1:45:23Speaker 1: i Told LYNN i wanted to go to One Limb
- 1:45:25Speaker 1: parsons came on the, show and she lives down that,
- 1:45:28Speaker 1: way and it'd be. FUN i think they actually do
- 1:45:31Speaker 1: those down The. Everglades, yeah around The, EVERGLADES i. Think
- 1:45:34Speaker 1: AND i still have not been to The Skunk Ape.
- 1:45:38Speaker 1: MUSEUM i want to go down there, sometimes so Maybe
- 1:45:41Speaker 1: i'll knock it all out in one trip sometime and
- 1:45:44Speaker 1: go hunt for.
- 1:45:45Speaker 2: Snakes but, yeah the pythons would beep on to. Catch yeah, Maybe,
- 1:45:53Speaker 2: yeah they're. Fun you got what you got your big
- 1:45:55Speaker 2: bag or your. Sack you catch, them if you can
- 1:45:57Speaker 2: get lucky enough to catch them behind the head and
- 1:46:00Speaker 2: not let him twist back and break through. Teeth, yeah they'll.
- 1:46:04Speaker 2: Breakthrough they'll actually break through teeth off in. You.
- 1:46:07Speaker 1: UH i actually had A i had a red Till
- 1:46:10Speaker 1: boa constrictor Named. Kobe kobe was my. Snake IF i
- 1:46:15Speaker 1: can muster up some, PICTURES i have pictures of me holding,
- 1:46:17Speaker 1: him like have him holding around my neck and. Stuff
- 1:46:20Speaker 1: and he was. HUGE i got him when he was
- 1:46:23Speaker 1: tiny and uh and he got real big quick over the.
- 1:46:27Speaker 1: Years but, uh BUT i had a snake and, uh
- 1:46:29Speaker 1: and he would he would bite me all the. Time
- 1:46:32Speaker 1: i've been bit by only one, snake but multiple. Times
- 1:46:35Speaker 1: i'm talking about it would have to probably be in the. Hundreds,
- 1:46:38Speaker 1: Okay i've been and he was, big he got real
- 1:46:42Speaker 1: big and uh and so it got to be like
- 1:46:44Speaker 1: it didn't bother me to get bit by. Him and uh.
- 1:46:49Speaker 2: Yeah so you wouldn't have you wouldn't have any problems
- 1:46:53Speaker 2: kitchen balls.
- 1:46:54Speaker 1: THEN i, MEAN i still don't want to get bit by,
- 1:46:56Speaker 1: snakes you. Know and, Uh i've never seen the videos
- 1:47:00Speaker 1: those people that are down there doing the snake roundups
- 1:47:01Speaker 1: and they're picking up copper heads thinking they're.
- 1:47:04Speaker 2: Boas AND i haven't seen that, one BUT i watched.
- 1:47:07Speaker 2: THAT i watched that one With dusty on, there that
- 1:47:10Speaker 2: guy that goes all the time catching boas and selling
- 1:47:14Speaker 2: them back to the. State uh they pay boundary on.
- 1:47:17Speaker 1: Them oh, god, yeah, MAN i tell you what. IF i,
- 1:47:23Speaker 1: MEAN i know the difference between different types of, snakes
- 1:47:26Speaker 1: but then, AGAIN i don't like when you're in the.
- 1:47:27Speaker 1: MOMENT i don't want to make them a deadly. Mistake
- 1:47:33Speaker 1: there are water snakes that look just like moccasins and,
- 1:47:35Speaker 1: stuff and you know. Copperheads there's water snakes and there's.
- 1:47:38Speaker 1: Copperheads i'm not taking my. CHANCES i don't. Care i'm
- 1:47:44Speaker 1: not picking UP i.
- 1:47:46Speaker 2: Used to noodle for, catfish and that means diving down
- 1:47:50Speaker 2: under rocks and stuff under rock bluffs and then running a,
- 1:47:55Speaker 2: stranger catch them and then run a stranger and then
- 1:47:58Speaker 2: give it a couple jerkst's tie to a rope and
- 1:48:01Speaker 2: the man in the boat would pull it. Up and
- 1:48:04Speaker 2: we went into a creek and we didn't have to
- 1:48:06Speaker 2: have a, boat so we were just going along on our,
- 1:48:09Speaker 2: bellies pull through the, creek reaching on these, rocks AND
- 1:48:14Speaker 2: i got. LUCKY i pulled out a twenty five pounds
- 1:48:17Speaker 2: snapping turtle and he didn't bite. Me AND i, Said
- 1:48:19Speaker 2: i'm done with my fish.
- 1:48:21Speaker 1: Noodling oh my, god that will take off your body.
- 1:48:26Speaker 2: Parts, right you can lose the panger. Quick not just.
- 1:48:30Speaker 1: Fingers, okay there's and it's not just snaper. Turtles there's,
- 1:48:34Speaker 1: snakes there's beavers and otters and, RIGHT i don't even
- 1:48:39Speaker 1: want to know it all is down, there you, know going.
- 1:48:41Speaker 1: Noodling that requires some people stick their whole arms and
- 1:48:44Speaker 1: legs in those, holes, Right AND i think that is
- 1:48:47Speaker 1: the dumbest Thing i've ever seen in my. Life no
- 1:48:49Speaker 1: offense anybody who. NOODLES i think it's. GREAT i would
- 1:48:52Speaker 1: love to watch y'all do, that BUT i would never
- 1:48:54Speaker 1: do it.
- 1:48:54Speaker 2: Myself you stick your if you find one out in
- 1:48:58Speaker 2: the lake and you stick your legs in, first and
- 1:49:01Speaker 2: then if it's a big, cat he'll grab a hold
- 1:49:04Speaker 2: of your leg and you can tell it's a cat.
- 1:49:06Speaker 2: Fish but a snake or a turtle they'll hang.
- 1:49:09Speaker 1: On oh my, god what is the fun in. THAT
- 1:49:13Speaker 1: i don't. See you gotta have a lot of moonshine.
- 1:49:15Speaker 1: INVOLVED i would. THINK i, MEAN i might do it
- 1:49:19Speaker 1: IF i had some of that in. ME i don't,
- 1:49:21Speaker 1: know BUT i don't Think i'll do it. Otherwise and
- 1:49:24Speaker 1: SOMETIMES i see that people do stuff And i'm, like
- 1:49:26Speaker 1: there's some brown liquor involved in that.
- 1:49:28Speaker 2: One, RIGHT.
- 1:49:32Speaker 1: I tell you, WHAT i tell you what this that's
- 1:49:35Speaker 1: country folks, activities y'all in case you are. Wondering and
- 1:49:39Speaker 1: uh and, yes uh you. Know Frog gggan was a
- 1:49:42Speaker 1: big thing WHEN i was a, Kid But nudland is
- 1:49:43Speaker 1: a whole other. Level yea whole Other And i'm glad
- 1:49:46Speaker 1: to know that you do. It i'm Not why AM
- 1:49:49Speaker 1: i not? Shocked i'm not. Shocked oh, MAN.
- 1:49:55Speaker 2: I was going to take A i'll take a board
- 1:49:57Speaker 2: the other. Day snip. On you ever been snip?
- 1:49:59Speaker 1: ON i have, not not.
- 1:50:01Speaker 2: Yet, oh you'd love, it you'd love. It, yeah, yeah
- 1:50:05Speaker 2: we'll take. You what we do is the, Newcomers we'll
- 1:50:08Speaker 2: just take them out and give them a, pitchy a
- 1:50:10Speaker 2: pitchy pound burr lap. Sack then everybody gets together in
- 1:50:16Speaker 2: the middle of the night and they run them to,
- 1:50:18Speaker 2: you and then you hold that sack. Still they'll run
- 1:50:22Speaker 2: them to snipe in your sack and you just close
- 1:50:24Speaker 2: the sack, up the slip. Something, yeah well that's.
- 1:50:28Speaker 1: Easy you don't have to you don't have to shoot.
- 1:50:30Speaker 1: Anything you just hold, open hold the bag.
- 1:50:32Speaker 2: Open here's the thing, Though, Jess, yeah it's a joke
- 1:50:37Speaker 2: because we do that all the time In. Tennessee is
- 1:50:39Speaker 2: an initiation and while everybody goes home and goes to
- 1:50:43Speaker 2: bed and leaves the person out there with a sack all.
- 1:50:45Speaker 1: Night that's not like something my dad would have done
- 1:50:52Speaker 1: to me as a.
- 1:50:53Speaker 2: Kid but they actually is a snipe season In. Tennessee
- 1:50:58Speaker 2: oh my.
- 1:50:58Speaker 1: God, Man, Yeah i'm having flashbacks that ever happened to
- 1:51:05Speaker 1: me as a. Kid probably probably, no right after we
- 1:51:08Speaker 1: got done swimming with, alligators went snipe. Putting i've heard that.
- 1:51:13Speaker 1: Before i'm sure my dad's told me about that.
- 1:51:14Speaker 2: Before he's probably slapped.
- 1:51:17Speaker 1: Hunh, Yeah i'm sure he. Has i'm sure he'd love
- 1:51:19Speaker 1: to have taken us out there and done. That but,
- 1:51:22Speaker 1: anyway that is too. Funny, Bruce and, uh, YEAH i don't.
- 1:51:26Speaker 1: Know i've the most Hunting i've done lately is just
- 1:51:29Speaker 1: for dog men and, bofoot that's All i've been. For
- 1:51:32Speaker 1: and that's not really, hunting that's. Investigating SO. Enginep thank
- 1:51:36Speaker 1: you so. Much what's, Up? Paula she, Says, uh this
- 1:51:39Speaker 1: is From paula her first time. Watching thank you so,
- 1:51:42Speaker 1: Much paula AND. ENGINEP i appreciate. Y'all, uh AND i
- 1:51:47Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed the show. Today we don't usually talk
- 1:51:49Speaker 1: this much about, snakes, okay or noodling and, stuff BUT
- 1:51:55Speaker 1: i have been fascinated with all these snake bites that
- 1:51:57Speaker 1: have been happening. Lately and, uh and this. KID i
- 1:52:00Speaker 1: actually sent, that sent the link to some of my,
- 1:52:02Speaker 1: friends some of my research. Friends we have a little
- 1:52:04Speaker 1: group chat going and, uh AND i sent the article
- 1:52:08Speaker 1: about the kid with a cotton mouth and his, helmet
- 1:52:11Speaker 1: And david was, like, oh that was a spiritual what
- 1:52:15Speaker 1: do you say something about it being a spiritual awakening or?
- 1:52:18Speaker 1: Something AND i sent a gift of, like you, know
- 1:52:21Speaker 1: people in church handling snakes, Basically and that's kind of
- 1:52:25Speaker 1: WHAT i was equating that, too WAS i was thinking
- 1:52:27Speaker 1: in my. MIND i was, like you, know that kid
- 1:52:29Speaker 1: was protected By. GOD i mean for, real for that
- 1:52:32Speaker 1: snake not to have bitten, him, Right, yeah that's that's
- 1:52:38Speaker 1: a that's a.
- 1:52:38Speaker 2: Miracle, yeah that's WHAT i was fixing say that's definitely a.
- 1:52:41Speaker 1: Miracle, yeah he's got he's got higher powers washing over.
- 1:52:46Speaker 1: Him but then, again can a snake actually bite you
- 1:52:48Speaker 1: when it's coiled up like that and hiding in? Something
- 1:52:51Speaker 1: well not.
- 1:52:52Speaker 2: Really because WHEN i was gen saying, HUNTING i had
- 1:52:54Speaker 2: a it was a eard in the, morning probably about seven.
- 1:52:59Speaker 2: Thirty that's been probably six years. Ago there was a
- 1:53:04Speaker 2: copper head wrapped around and around under a big four
- 1:53:08Speaker 2: point chenstant plant AND i didn't see. It so ON
- 1:53:12Speaker 2: i pulled the top back to dig the. Root he
- 1:53:17Speaker 2: couldn't strike, me but he when he raised his, head
- 1:53:20Speaker 2: his tongue licked my knuckles AND i jerked my hand.
- 1:53:23Speaker 2: Back so he had to get his head up before
- 1:53:25Speaker 2: he could strike.
- 1:53:26Speaker 1: Me oh, yeah. Yeah they got to be able to lunge,
- 1:53:32Speaker 1: right a, lunge not to say they can't just open
- 1:53:34Speaker 1: their mouth right and like bite.
- 1:53:36Speaker 2: You order for him to bite, me he had to
- 1:53:41Speaker 2: get his mouth. Open when he opened it to open his,
- 1:53:44Speaker 2: mouth that tongue licked my knuckle AND i jerked it.
- 1:53:47Speaker 1: Back oh, god we're the lomess that. Is you were
- 1:53:53Speaker 1: very lucky. Too something was watching over you and protected
- 1:53:55Speaker 1: you that day, Too because That's, wow that was your.
- 1:53:58Speaker 1: Warning that was your, morning your warning shot right. There oh. Gosh. Yeah,
- 1:54:04Speaker 1: well here's my advice to the. Audience please check your
- 1:54:07Speaker 1: boots before you put your shoes. On, okay, uh make
- 1:54:10Speaker 1: sure you don't HAVE i always check mine for like
- 1:54:12Speaker 1: mice IF i have them in the garage or, Something
- 1:54:13Speaker 1: i'll check for like mice or any kind of critters
- 1:54:15Speaker 1: in my. Shoes. FORDERS i, MEAN i don't mind. Spiders
- 1:54:20Speaker 1: i'll smosh a spider on my shoe. Whatever i'm just.
- 1:54:22Speaker 1: Kidding but but it's the snakes THAT i worry about to.
- 1:54:25Speaker 1: You and, yeah don't leave your shoes that's sitting. Outside
- 1:54:29Speaker 1: that may. Be that may be rule number. One don't
- 1:54:32Speaker 1: leave your shoes sitting.
- 1:54:32Speaker 2: Outside if you, do if you, do take your offe
- 1:54:37Speaker 2: and put you a quick spray off and each one
- 1:54:40Speaker 2: of your, shoes and snakes don't like the smell of,
- 1:54:44Speaker 2: that they'll stay away from. That they won't crawl in.
- 1:54:47Speaker 2: There neither will. Bugs good.
- 1:54:49Speaker 1: Advice, yeah you can do, that or just keep your
- 1:54:53Speaker 1: keep your shoes turned upside, down or even if you
- 1:54:55Speaker 1: put them upside, down they can still get in. There,
- 1:54:57Speaker 1: Okay but but, yeah snake are they're. On they're pretty
- 1:55:01Speaker 1: rampant right, now. Y'all and at least on my at
- 1:55:05Speaker 1: least on my social media, feed they are. Okay but but, yeah, Well,
- 1:55:10Speaker 1: bruce this has been a really fantastic show. Today i've
- 1:55:12Speaker 1: thoroughly enjoyed this, one AND i think we covered a
- 1:55:15Speaker 1: lot of great. TOPICS i want to thank you for
- 1:55:16Speaker 1: sharing your videos with us of The bigfoot and The
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- 1:57:37Speaker 2: there Then i'll be heading the woods.
- 1:57:41Speaker 1: Somewhere, yeah you'll be exploring caves and, stuff right. Man,
- 1:57:45Speaker 1: Yeah i'm gonna be heading back up that way here
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- 1:58:02Speaker 1: GOSH i really do enjoy having you, Here, bruce and
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- 1:59:14Speaker 1: DAY i will see you guys back here tomorrow. Night all,
- 1:59:17Speaker 1: right head on a swillow, everybody but have no fear
- 1:59:21Speaker 1: unless you're, looking and always check your boots in your
- 1:59:24Speaker 1: football helmets from acca since, okay all, right, y'all have
- 1:59:28Speaker 1: a great.
- 1:59:28Speaker 2: Day bye.
- 1:59:29Speaker 1: Y'all b it's, it's it's it's it's it's, so it's