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Bill Colrus joins the show! · Day Drinking With Dog

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  Speaker 1: Tequila Welcome Back Day Drinking with Dog. It has been
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  Speaker 1: a nice little hiatus, almost three weeks. I haven't done
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  Speaker 1: a show. We had some scrambling with my guests. That's
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  Speaker 1: about to come on. He had the cancel, I had
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  Speaker 1: to cancel, had a root canal done last week. Those
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  Speaker 1: are fun, but we've always It's a high school buddy
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  Speaker 1: of mine, Bill Coleris. Thanks so much for joining me,
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  Speaker 1: taking some time out of your out of your daily schedule.
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  Speaker 3: Man, it's pleasure to be here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you sound you sound excited.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the most exciting part of my death.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, excellent.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, obviously we went to high school together,
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  Speaker 1: graduated together, you know, and then I pretty much moved
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  Speaker 1: out of the Madison area.
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  Speaker 2: I think you did too, or with school and all that, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I moved to che Tennessee to go to school in
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  Speaker 3: ninety three, and moved back for a year when my
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  Speaker 3: mom was sick, and then moved back for good in
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  Speaker 3: ninety six. Graduated in University Tennessee and Chattanooga. We're mister
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  Speaker 3: Belding and Terrell Owens went to school and then fell
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  Speaker 3: in love with Chattanooga, lived there till twenty eighteen, and
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  Speaker 3: then moved to Charleston, South Carolina area that summer kind
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  Speaker 3: of be closer to my wife's family. Yeah. It's beautiful
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  Speaker 3: down there. Yeah, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been to Charleston twice. It's had an awesome
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  Speaker 1: time both times. I actually have a quicker little story
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  Speaker 1: we'll get into later of Charleston.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, we were always Red Sox fans growing up,
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  Speaker 1: and you know the power of Facebook. You know, we've
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  Speaker 1: been friends on Facebook for a while, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: Facebook's Facebook, Like, no, it's not like anything. And then
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  Speaker 1: you reached out to me on Twitter with your south handle,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, yoh it's Bill Kleras. I'm like, shit,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like and then I started following you and really
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  Speaker 1: understood that, all right, this guy's like me, man, he's
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  Speaker 1: actually you're probably like more into it than I am,
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  Speaker 1: to be honest with you, But I have a friend
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  Speaker 1: that follows you as well, Chris Macurio, and he's he
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  Speaker 1: lives up in the Boston area. We've been friends since college,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, we literally text back and forth fifty fucking
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  Speaker 1: thousand times a day about the Red Sox offseason. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure you got some of those friends that you do,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just it's it's always frustrating. But let's go
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  Speaker 1: back to really how frustrating it was back in our
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  Speaker 1: high school years and early college years.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, you know, I feel like a common thing
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  Speaker 3: I get into just talking with people is like that
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  Speaker 3: age gap. Like, so, my first most vivid memory of
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  Speaker 3: being a Red Sox fan is actually the nineteen seventy
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  Speaker 3: eight playoff game because my parents were watching it. I
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  Speaker 3: knew the Red Sox and Yankees were playing. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: know all the history.
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  Speaker 2: I was like four, right, Yeah, we were four years old.
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  Speaker 3: I never remember it being a big d and then
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  Speaker 3: I remember them being loud when we took a lead,
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  Speaker 3: and then I remember them getting really bad when we lost,
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  Speaker 3: and I remember Bucky Dent being a swear word in
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  Speaker 3: our house for a good long while after that. And
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  Speaker 3: then I remember Fred Linn and Carlton Fisk and Rick
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  Speaker 3: Burleson all leaving the team and how that was bad.
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  Speaker 3: And my favorite player was carl U Streemsky and then
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  Speaker 3: I guess it was probably like nineteen eighty one, we
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  Speaker 3: were in first grade. For some reason, I think it's
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  Speaker 3: because my mom started started buying me baseball cards, like
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  Speaker 3: one pack when we go to stop the shop. I
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  Speaker 3: started watching them on Channel thirty eight, like pretty religiously
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  Speaker 3: ever since. And you know, so we got eighty one
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  Speaker 3: to twenty and four, twenty three years there where they
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  Speaker 3: came close, they didn't win. They gave credence to I
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  Speaker 3: don't really believe in curses, but they gave credence to
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  Speaker 3: this curse that we were suppose lee under that we
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  Speaker 3: didn't win and didn't feel like I remember in two
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  Speaker 3: thousand and three, thinking my wife was tired, she went
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  Speaker 3: to bed early. I'm sitting there watching the game alone
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  Speaker 3: on Aaron Boone. At the home run, I just remember
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  Speaker 3: being stunned and just sort of looking off into space,
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  Speaker 3: going are we ever gonna win? Is it? Like? It
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  Speaker 3: just seemed like such an alternative, alternate reality. I turned
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  Speaker 3: thirty years old. I mean we're pretty close in age.
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  Speaker 3: I turned thirty years old, you know, just a month
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  Speaker 3: or so after that. So, Matt, thirty years of your
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  Speaker 3: life your favorite team has not won, right, And then
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  Speaker 3: you tack on another fifty six before that, eighty six years.
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  Speaker 3: The people that are like in their twenties or thirties
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  Speaker 3: or even forty now that didn't grow up as a
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  Speaker 3: conscious adult before two thousand and four and us, I
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  Speaker 3: think there's such a dividing line that it makes me
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  Speaker 3: hard to like get, makes it hard for me to
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  Speaker 3: get upset that we haven't won more. When we won
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  Speaker 3: in two thousand and four, one three more times and
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  Speaker 3: it's been like a six year gap, is not an
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  Speaker 3: eighty six year gap, Like I mean, it's tough for
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  Speaker 3: me to.
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  Speaker 2: Get really, especially way sports are now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like yeah, there's you know, it's so I get,
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  Speaker 3: you know, frustrated. I go, they should have done that,
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  Speaker 3: they should have done that. But I can't physically conjure
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  Speaker 3: up the sadness frustration now after winning four times before
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  Speaker 3: my kids have even graduated high school. Yeah, that I
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  Speaker 3: would have back then. So that's short of the and
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  Speaker 3: that so that that color is my whole perspective as
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  Speaker 3: a fan, right, Yeah, Like that's got kind of where
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  Speaker 3: I'm coming from.
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  Speaker 2: I was, I was a little later of a bloomer.
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  Speaker 2: I was probably eighty four.
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  Speaker 1: I started really like My parents weren't big you know,
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  Speaker 1: they just weren't big sports fans. My father really wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: He just watched golf every weekend, and so I watched
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  Speaker 1: golf a lot. But then he did have TV thirty eight,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and so but the Yankees games were on
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  Speaker 1: a lot too, for whatever reason.
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  Speaker 3: Up in Massachuset, in Connecticut, we got all of them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got all of them.
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  Speaker 3: Red Sox is kind of crazy.
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  Speaker 1: So obviously eighty six was was, uh, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: big one. Everyone went to bed in my household. So
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  Speaker 1: we were twelve, and I stayed up the whole time,
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  Speaker 1: and I woke up next morning and my mom's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: how exciting. Huh.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, you have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: Like that was my first like really experience with just
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  Speaker 1: being let down and being depressed and really understanding sports
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  Speaker 1: can really control the narrative in your life. And it
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  Speaker 1: isn't as strong today as it was back then. But man,
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  Speaker 1: for fucking twenty five years, I mean, every bait there's
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two games a year. If they
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  Speaker 1: lose a game, I don't sleep well that night. And
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  Speaker 1: imagine with football, I'm a big Patriots fan. Was the
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  Speaker 1: same way. I had to sit on that loss for
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  Speaker 1: a week, you know, and it's just it's I just again,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have it like I used to.
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  Speaker 2: I still got it, but nothing.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: When I was like when we were in our twenties
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  Speaker 1: and thirties, everything was, you know, and all our friends
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  Speaker 1: were Yankees fans, so you had to listen to all
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  Speaker 1: that shit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, nineteen eighty six, so I got older sisters. My
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  Speaker 3: middle sister's husband, who was a Yankee fan, was watching
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  Speaker 3: the Bill Buckner game, and I remember after Dave Henderson
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  Speaker 3: hit the home run, I asked my child, Hey, can
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  Speaker 3: we get a newspaper tomorrow? I think you we're about
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  Speaker 3: to win it. And then we lost, and my brother
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  Speaker 3: in law and it was the most hilarious thing I remember.
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  Speaker 3: I remember we had like we had to run around
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  Speaker 3: the gymund run around the field at gym class at
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  Speaker 3: Brown Schools. The next morning, I was like in a
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  Speaker 3: daze of just like h And even when we took
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  Speaker 3: a lead in Game seven, I'm like, I feel like
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  Speaker 3: he just knew it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we were twelve and we already knew that sinking
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  Speaker 1: Red Sox feeling.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And then you know, nineteen eighty eight we had
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  Speaker 3: on a great run. Morgan Magic didn't win. Nineteen ninety
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  Speaker 3: got to the playoffs and got bounced really quickly. Ninety
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  Speaker 3: five amazing stuff happened, got bounced. Ninety nine, same thing
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  Speaker 3: sort of happened. So it's just like, again, am I
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  Speaker 3: in an alternate reality? Could they ever possibly win? What
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  Speaker 3: would that look like?
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  Speaker 1: Ninety Nine was different though, because I think the Pedro signing, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and the new ownership coming in just changed, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the whole Manny chase, you know, a couple of years
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  Speaker 1: later and obviously no one saw our teas on the
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  Speaker 1: radar that was under under the you know, bottom back
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  Speaker 1: headline thing, no one, No one gave a shit. He
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  Speaker 1: didn't play his first year. Really he wanted it out.
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  Speaker 1: And I, you know, as much as I shit on
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  Speaker 1: the ownership now, I feel back then they were you know,
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  Speaker 1: they they were they were in it to win it,
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  Speaker 1: and you know it can't take that away from them,
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  Speaker 1: as much as I don't like them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, in two thousand and two thousand and three, after
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  Speaker 3: you know, the war off about the Boone home run,
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  Speaker 3: can we like start the season tomorrow? Because I really
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  Speaker 3: did feel like we were pretty close and that we
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  Speaker 3: would you know, the next year was going to be good,
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  Speaker 3: and adding Kirk Shilling is a huge thing, right and so,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, you know, two thousand and eight the team
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  Speaker 3: was a wagon. Twenty thirteen of two thousand and seven
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  Speaker 3: was amazing, as my son had just been born.
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  Speaker 2: Thirteen was wacky. Yeah, that was out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but still fulfilling, yep.
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  Speaker 1: And it was the marathon year, the Boston bombing, and
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  Speaker 1: it just it was just one of those you know,
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  Speaker 1: fairy tale storied endings.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to be. I feel like you can
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  Speaker 3: as a Red Sox fan now, especially younger, you can
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  Speaker 3: run the risk of becoming the Yankee fans we used
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  Speaker 3: to make fun of that, just expected to win all
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  Speaker 3: the time, right, just And I don't know, I feel
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  Speaker 3: like I've put in a lot of sweat equity watching
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  Speaker 3: do you not win? Where I can? I can handle it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's not all life and death to me.
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  Speaker 3: I pay attention, But you know, I don't know, I
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  Speaker 3: feel like six years it could seem like an eternity
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  Speaker 3: if you're twenty four years old, but six years to
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  Speaker 3: finally like getting back to relevance like we are this
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  Speaker 3: year it's not that big a weight, to be honest,
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  Speaker 3: And you know, at this point, any of the issues
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  Speaker 3: that are going on with the team, Like you know,
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  Speaker 3: the last few days, I've seen people arguing that we
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  Speaker 3: got to trade guys asap, or they're going to spoil
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  Speaker 3: or whatever. Actually it's called a surplus. We have a
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  Speaker 3: surplus of talent, Like we can actually go on a
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  Speaker 3: run in with the American League being so pathetic across
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  Speaker 3: the board as it is, or at least compared to
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  Speaker 3: the National League, I don't see how you can't be
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  Speaker 3: optimistic that we have a chance to at least be
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  Speaker 3: interesting all year, if not compete.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, well it's funny you say that.
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  Speaker 1: So I was writing down a bunch of shit today
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, I was just curious,
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  Speaker 1: is how Vegas has the ALI is shaping up? So
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  Speaker 1: they're over under on wins for all four teams Yankees
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  Speaker 1: at ninety three and a half, Orioles at eighty nine
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  Speaker 1: and a half, the Red Sox at eighty four and
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  Speaker 1: a half, and Tampa at eighty and a half.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, over all day long, they were five hundred
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  Speaker 2: team last year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes I don't understand how these how these odds
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  Speaker 3: get put together. Sometimes like people aren't you know, watching
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the issue with you know,
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  Speaker 3: you've got the socks, prospects, guys who do an amazing
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  Speaker 3: job of covering our team versus guys who have to
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  Speaker 3: cover all the minor league teams. So maybe the people
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  Speaker 3: are the odds makers are not as clued in. But
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  Speaker 3: it should be pretty obvious that we are a lot
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  Speaker 3: better than the were last year and last year five
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  Speaker 3: hundred teams. So it's like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Right, that's just we have the man, we have the coach. Now,
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  Speaker 1: we have some starting pitching, we have some young talent
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  Speaker 1: coming up. It's all about how we balance that out.
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  Speaker 1: Got to stay injury free for the most part. I
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  Speaker 1: just don't see how this team, I mean they got
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  Speaker 1: eighty four. I mean this is a ninety one team. Yeah, right,
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  Speaker 1: especially with the Yankees, you know, getting hurt and the
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  Speaker 1: Orioles lost some players. I mean they still got a
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  Speaker 1: good lot, good core of young talent. But and Tampa's
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  Speaker 1: Tampa's playing in a minor league park this year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Texas just lost John Gray. The Yankees are struggling
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  Speaker 3: to put a staff together. It looks like Carlos Carrasco
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  Speaker 3: is going to be in the rotation. The Yeah, like
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  Speaker 3: you said, the Orioles lost some guys, the Blue Jays
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  Speaker 3: added some guys. But it's not really knocking my socks off.
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  Speaker 3: And you have to wonder what this Vladdie contract situation
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  Speaker 3: might be, distraction or whatever. I don't know. At least
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  Speaker 3: you can say, I could go from say they have
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  Speaker 3: as good a shot as anybody else.
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  Speaker 1: In the entire league, right, and it all it took.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, well it's not all it took. It took
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  Speaker 3: a few years to develop the foundation and the minor
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  Speaker 3: league perspect depth, obviously, but just going that little extra
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  Speaker 3: mile without completely obliterating your your balance sheet by adding
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  Speaker 3: you know, the Crouchet trade and Bueller and Bregman, just
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  Speaker 3: going that little extra mile. I really feel like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the ownership, rightly or wrongly, they take a lot of crap.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like you could probably make the argument that
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  Speaker 3: they were gonna go put all their chips in when
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  Speaker 3: it made sense, and doing it last year or the
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  Speaker 3: year before was probably premature in some people's minds. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. I have felt that they probably could have
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  Speaker 3: done a little bit more every year, especially at the
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  Speaker 3: trade deadline.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, they've been pretty dormant the last few years there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I'll tell you what though, I watched the game
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  Speaker 1: yesterday and Bregman made an unbelievable play at third, turning
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  Speaker 1: a double play, and I'm like this, this is he
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  Speaker 1: has to play third. I'm sorry, you know you want
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  Speaker 1: to give a day off, fine, but like I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know Devers has said the right.
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  Speaker 2: Things, but let's see what happens on opening Day.
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  Speaker 1: But he's got to play third because he's making plays
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  Speaker 1: Devers wouldn't even come close to making.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that whole controversy might be a little
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  Speaker 3: bit overblown. Also, if Raftie says he's not ready, he
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  Speaker 3: also has to know that any not dragging of his feet,
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  Speaker 3: but extra time he takes to get ready to play
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  Speaker 3: third base is putting himself behind and basically putting putting.
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  Speaker 1: Himself at right right bitch, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And I made this argument on Twitter, but the most
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  Speaker 3: one of the most beloved, if not the most beloved
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  Speaker 3: Red Sox player in recent history, are all time Day
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  Speaker 3: Ortiz was a designated hitter and Raffi makes twice as
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  Speaker 3: much money a year as David ever made, so I
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  Speaker 3: felt like it was gonna go this way. I'm a
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  Speaker 3: big advocate as a coach, as a high school coach,
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  Speaker 3: as someone that paid noticed that it took way Bogs
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  Speaker 3: ten years to win a Gold Glove, Like, I'm all
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  Speaker 3: about working and getting better at stuff. I'm one of
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  Speaker 3: these people that's pushing against like throwing Raffi to the
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  Speaker 3: scrap people. You didn't hear a lot of people complaining
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  Speaker 3: about his defense last year because it was actually pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: It was, but no, when you see a guy like
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  Speaker 1: Bregman making those plays, you're like, oh, man, I mean
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  Speaker 1: that our defense has been shoddy the last few years,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of errors.
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  Speaker 3: But you got to make it solid up the middle.
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  Speaker 3: And I like Hamilton at second, Bregman is already you
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  Speaker 3: know we have good problems, right, It's all If it's
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  Speaker 3: someone's feelings and an awkward conversation away from putting a
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  Speaker 3: winner on the field, You're going to take that all
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  Speaker 3: day long, versus trying to find someone on the waiver
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  Speaker 3: wire to make a start for you in July because
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  Speaker 3: you don't have enough depth or your prospects stink or
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  Speaker 3: you know, you made the wrong moves in the offseason.
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  Speaker 3: So I know the Boston media world, they're there's always
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  Speaker 3: looking for a shoe to drop, and there's always got
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  Speaker 3: to be a controversy because you know you got to
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  Speaker 3: that's what gets people's attention. But from a fans point
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  Speaker 3: of view, I don't see how you can't be optimistic
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  Speaker 3: and at least intrigued. It's I think it's all gonna
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  Speaker 3: work out, and I sort of, you know, I trust
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  Speaker 3: Alex Cora when he has the pieces to make maning
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  Speaker 3: decisions to make them, which has not always been the
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  Speaker 3: case in previous years.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of media, who your best and worst of Boston?
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  Speaker 1: As far as the baseball world.
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  Speaker 3: Man, I really I don't listen to the Sports Hub
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  Speaker 3: at all.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, oh I stopped, Yeah, I stopped for.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like Tony maz is a very good, qualified, fantastic,
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  Speaker 3: even regular reporter that I feel like he wanted or
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  Speaker 3: maybe he felt This is just my complete in my head,
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  Speaker 3: but I felt like he wanted the Nessen gig he
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: got a couple of years ago, a long time ago,
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: and then it didn't happen or whatever. That's what he
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: was angling for. And then he just took the heel.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Money just became from Tony Maserati to Tony maz and
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: it's like, all right, well I'm going to lean into this.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: And then when he got fired and we went back
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: on the air, it was so cringey. So I don't
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: even I don't listen. I don't really listen to WE
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: I used to listen probably more ten years ago. I
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: liked Mutton Marmoni back in the day. I liked I
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: listened to Lou, I like Rob Bradford's stuff. I don't
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: listen to sports talk radio really as much, hardly at all.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: We grew up in w FAN and I admit that,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm living in Connecticut and I had wfaon
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: WFN on twenty four to seven in my room. I
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: felt it was it was sort of a different thing.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: It was New York and you know, we were kids whatever,
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: and you know, they would occasionally talk about the Red Sox.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: But I don't know, I just there's a there's a
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: very not transparent, but I guess transparent sort of cheesy
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: formula to the just the regular segments and trying to
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: get keeping the phone lines lit and stuff that I
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: just don't have any interest in. It's sort of how
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: like Twitter has like like lapped late night talk show comedians. Like,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: it's just it's not the same anymore. So I will
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: listen to, like if there's a particular interview or a
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: segment somebody does. I like when Lou walks the Dog.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: I like when Lou guests on podcasts. But I don't
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: feel the need to sit there to listen to someone
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: trying to stir the pot to get someone that wants
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: their pot stirred to call in. I just just it's
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: not even a part of my life anymore. To be
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: honest with you, I'm much more and listen to podcasts
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: or just reading stuff or mixing it up with fans.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: So that's kind of where I'm at.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to watch I used to watch Velgert
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Maz all the time, and it just became like you said,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: it's just it's just like, what's the point of even
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: having a radio show? Nothing's I mean you literally, as
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Boston sports guys have gone through a twenty year span
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: where it's unrivaled in any other city in America of championships,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: and they also they do a shit on shit on
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: the teams, you know, even like like the like it's
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: so funny, like you win a super Bowl, where you
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: win the World Series, like two days later, it's like, okay,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: it's the off season. It's like they build up all
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: this shit and then it's just over. You win or
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: you lose, and it's over. It's like see you later
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: on to the next All right, where's this guy going,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: where's this guy going? Is this coach getting fired? It's
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: just such a twenty four to seven, three sixty five
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: cycle in sports now, and there's no you can't really
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: sit back like the Celtics.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: I'm Boston all the way.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: So the Celtics won last year and you know they
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: hadn't won in a while, it's been since like seven
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I think, oh eight, and uh it's just like there,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: you know, the next day they're talking about Lebron. It's
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: like Jesus Christ, like like Tatum gets no respect in
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: the media. Brown gets no respect in the media. I
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: mean he won finals MVP for I mean, these guys
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: aren't even in the top ten and well maybe Tatum is,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: but top ten and MVP voting, Uh, you know, it's
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: just it's just the NBA has just become very strange
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: and how they market it and how they talk about it,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: and you know, I really think the league will be
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: better off when Lebron leaves. And I mean, I don't know,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: you probably don't listen to my show, but I don't
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: like Lebron. I never have. And uh, you know, he's
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: he's a remarkable specimen NBA player, he really is.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, you you were like me. You grew up
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: in the Jordan era. I remember being it.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I remember watching in Chip Parsons basement watching, you know, yes,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: rest in Peace, buddy, watching, Uh was it bulls?
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: What was it? Oh?
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: No, Piston's Lakers when that when it was turning into
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: the Lakers dynasty. And then and that was at ninety
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: two wait what was it? Yeah, ninety two, nineteen four six, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: ninety two, ninety three was his first.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: I think Jordan's right when.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: People would actually passed the ball in seven game and play.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Was fantastic and like my team's like the biggest fucking
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: guilty of that, Celtics, you know, and it does pay
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: me to like watch it, Like a guy could drive
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: free for a layup and still kicks it out to
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: the corner and it just fucking hits off the backboard.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Just take the fucking too, man, Come on.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta admit that most of my interests in
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: sports outside of baseball has really dwindled since I graduated
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: for whatever reason, Like and I was only a kind
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: of a casual basketball and hockey fan, and yeah, you
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: know back in the day, Well, I've been a forty
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: nine Ers fan since I'm a kid. I was a
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: little kid. Didn't know that I probably should have picked
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: one of the local teams, but.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Well not the Jets, But I just I just fell
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: in love with you know, I was gonna say, was
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: that just purely from watching them win Super Bowls? As
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: we were kids.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Someone gave me a forty nine Ers pennant and I
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: can't remember who it was. And I was a real
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: little kid, and then I don't know the things. You
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: just stumble into some stuff sometimes, man, I just and
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: then they turns out they were good. I'm like, all right,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: I guess I'll like this team that, you know. And
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: then I remember when I was in fifth grade, I
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: was like really into the forty nine Ers, and everybody
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: in my class picked the Dolphins, and I picked the
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: forty nine ers and we won, and I was like,
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: all right, I'm sticking with yeah and uh and then
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: you know, Tourell Loans went to school same time I
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: did a UTC and we won. Steve Young took over
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: and it's just fun. It was a fun team to watch,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: fun team to sort of emulate when you're playing tackle
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: football after school. Yeah. Yeah, short the short passes.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, they they they had a they had a
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: great long run. I mean they were before the Patriots were,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: you know, winning twelve games every year. It was the
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Niners back then. Every year they were winning ten to
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: twelve games every year. You know.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: I just I'm not as much into you know. You know,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: we grew up in the Northeast, you know, and then
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: I moved to the South, where you have to have
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: a favorite college football team.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Oh right, and I have tried.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: And it's just my whole wife's family.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: They were you know, you didn't become a Tennessee fan
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: of wallfan.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: No, No, her you know, all her parents from Florida,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: and her uncle worked at your you know, in Gainesville
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: on campus and stuff. So they're all just born and bred,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: uh gainer fans. I just I just don't have that
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: gene in my body. And that my uncle took me.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: My uncle who lives in New York, took me to
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: a bunch of Yale Harvard games, you know, and one
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: of them was like negative forty.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just those wood bleachers.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember herschel Walker being a monster when I
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: was a kid at Georgia. Just one of those things
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: we didn't We had so many professional teams and then
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Yukon for basketball in the Big East for basketball. We
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: talked about that college football.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: There's nothing in the Northeast and if anybody.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Was a college football fan, they were like a Ohio
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: fan or Texas or someone far away, or we had
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: a bunch of Boston college fans. I guess obviously, Yeah,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: I'm just pretty much solicitly red SOX. Other than you know, my.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Own kid, how's he. How's he?
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: He's doing good. So that's his senior year. He's probably
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: gonna take a gap year, figured out what he wants
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: to do. I kind of did the same thing, but
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: we are We were runner up for a championship state
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: championship last year and trying to eclips that this year.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: He had some little bit of arm soreness. Last year
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: was the first year he didn't play summer ball. An
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: aged out a little league, which we would also do
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: in addition to school ball, and then he ramped back
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: up for fallball and he had some soreness for the
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: first time ever. So he's had to do some physical
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: therapy back going back into January. But he's I think
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: he's past that. He's pitched three games and we won
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: two of them. He pitched like one inning in the
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: first game to see how he would do, so I
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: never were about to get on a run. He's a
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: probably strikes out about a guy in inning, doesn't really
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: walk anybody. It's fun, man. I love uh. I love
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: coaching at this age. It's about, you know, I don't
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: think we're gonna have anybody that's gonna be a D
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: one commit or anything. We've played against some and we've
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: played against We've beaten teams with kids. This part of
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: the country is super competitive for amateur baseball. I could
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: run off a laundry list of guys in this specific
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: area that made it to the big leagues. Brett Gardner
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: is helping to coach his son's team. Who are we
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: play against them? But his sons on the JV team.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: I was five feet away from him at a middle
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: school game the other night. I didn't want to walk
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: up to them, but I mean justin smoke Andrew, I
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: think Andrew not Andrew. Casher is another Victor member's name,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Matt Wieters, Bryce Floor Bryce Bryce Floors to pitch for
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: the red side, got hitting the eye back in the Yeah,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: he's the pitching coach. A couple like twenty minutes away
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: we played against the current College of Charleston. Coach used
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: to be on the South Carolina staff when JBJ and
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: went Maryfield were there. So there's just's it and then
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: travel and it's high school teams very competitive down here.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: But so all that have to say, I know that
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: if I can help these guys work together as teammates
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: to achieve goals and overcome stuff and not get mentally
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: thrown when things don't go their way, it's going to
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: help them in other aspects of their lives. And that's
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: that's really my main motivation, in addition to obviously winning games.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Did you start coaching?
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: So I coached my son Sam, you know, in you know,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Little League and travel and all star stuff all the
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: way coming up. Then I'm like, I'm gonna take a break.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: I like to see, you know, some other guys do it,
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: and you know, you know, but then they asked me
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: to join. So I've been on the varsity staff for
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: the last three years with him and been talking about
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: coming back next year after he graduates. Just because I've
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: known some of these kids before they were even in
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: high school, like little league and travel. I would like
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: to maybe finish it out with them helping out. It's
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: just really really fun.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a really good thing to do, and then
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: you'll get to know the other younger kids and then
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: you'll never leave.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: It's hard. It's hard.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know, you get attached to all these
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: kids and they're you know, for the most part, I'm
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: hoping they're all good kids. And and uh, you know,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I always say, you know, if you got kids that
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: haven't played sports, because it's it's the biggest life lessons
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: you can learn and camarader or in teamwork and all
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: that stuff.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: In all, Probably i tweeted this earlier today, I'm probably
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: gonna wind up running a book about like coaching experiences,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: because literally, man, every single week, if not multiple times
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: a week, someone shows me something that is a great
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: example of what not to do when you're working with
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: kids on these teams, and I feel like it should
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: be shared. You know, I've got a lot of opinions
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: about the whole travel ball and industry and stuff like that.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of guys out there willing to sell
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: parents the dream and make a lot of money on
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: the backs and arms of these kids, which can actually
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: turn these kids off to the sport, and they're not
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: actually helping them get any better. And I've sat sort
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: of undercovering in the stands and heard the parents complain
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: about these coaches and stuff. So I got a kind
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: of a unique perspective on it, and I try to
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: keep it all healthy and positive. And we tend to
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: win just as much as other teams that don't, So
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: maybe there's something to it, I don't know, helping after
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: your kids.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but and you're in a hyper You said it's
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: very competitive down there, so it really is, yeah, yeah.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: So and it's fun and so yeah. So, uh, we
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: are rained out for our practice tonight, unfortunately, but we've
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: got a game Friday, double header Saturday, and then like
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: four next week. We just split a double header this
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: past Saturday, So it's fun.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: As being in good weather.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: We don't really even take time well, we take time off,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: but January was a wash because it was freezing when
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: we don't really have an indoor facility necessarily that we
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: can use and we had snow. So December pretty.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Much off most snow.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. We actually we have a golf course down the street.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: And my son was like, we took the wheels off
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: the skateboard boarding videos. But we we will do workouts
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: starting in January, and the regular season starts in like
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: the third week of February, and then these championships is
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: the first week of May. So yeah, we start probably
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: a month earlier easy than we did in Connecticut, Like
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: in April, it was still too cold for us to
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: do stuff in high school, like this is really cold,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: so yeah, but we can if we've had some years
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: where it really hasn't dropped much below fifty degrees for
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: the whole year, right, So it's just a matter. And
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: there's a couple of indoor facilities where our guys go
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: hit and throw and stuff like that, so so yeah,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: and then it used to be school ball and then
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: it would overlap Little League would start and play rec ball,
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: and then there would be all stars for Reck that
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: would go into travel for the summer and then travel
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: for the fall. We've personally adopted a very conservative travel
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: ball approach for us, especially the last two or three years.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Basically our high school team has become its own travel
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: team and played a select amount of tournaments just to
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: kind of stay together. But some of the kids go
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: play on more crazy stuff and then there's showcases for
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: scouts and stuff like that. So this matters how psycho
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: you want to be about it. He said. There's no
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: lack of people wanting to sell your kids the dream
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: and they don't do the math and go man, I
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: can look at Baseball Reference and look at the minor
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: league system like five years ago for the Twins, and
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: look at the single A team and there's only two
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: guys in bold black. That says that they even minutes
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: of the majors or you know. And college, they don't
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: give out a lot of full scholarships for college baseball.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: It's like a fraction. And then there's this whole transfer portal.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: So if kids are promised one thing and they don't
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: like as a lens of the transfer portal. And I
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: know a kid that raked against us when my son
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: was a freshman. He went to Vandy. He then transferred
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: to Rice, and I don't even think he's playing anymore,
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: just because there's there's just there's only so many spots man,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: and yeah, but yeah, that's where we're at. And you know,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: so I'm not doing all that. I'm watching the Red
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: Sox pretty religiously.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: And you don't pay.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: No. I is a VPN and creative link research. I
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: guess the way I put it, it's mostly at my
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: desk and I listened. I like listening on the radio,
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: like if I'm on the lawn or something, So I'll
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: do that.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that way.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Sometimes I'll get this subscription. I've had it in years past.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Other people have been kind enough to share their login
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: and stuff. I you know, between Twitter highlights and be
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: able to find a live stream and me not even
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: being home when the game's being played and not having
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: time necessary to even always watch it after the game,
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to spend the money for it. I
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: have heard horror stories about the nest.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: And plus oh yeah, now I wanted to get into
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: some like actual personal Fenway experiences.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've been up there.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: I haven't. This is gonna sound horrible considering I have
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: all Twitter account devoted to the team, but I have
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: not been to see the Red Sox in Fenway since
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: the nineties. So when I lived, they came to Atlanta
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: all the time. So I lived an hour from Atlanta.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: We went and saw them a lot. Yeah, the first
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: when Paedo first did joined the team, a coworker of
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: mine had forget I had box seats twelve seats from
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: first first base and I saw him, like I probably
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: his first road start when they first start against the
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Braves then. So we would go every year, multiple times
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: a year, and I've seen him in Tampa. It's just
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: been a you know, it's closer to see.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Him down here than of course. Yeah.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: When I was growing up, though, we went quite a bit.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: My dad had a friend he went to high school
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: with who had box seats probably twenty five rows up
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: behind home plate, and we would go on fairly regular basis.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Then we would just go buy tickets. All the carts
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: sometimes sat down on the right field intersection ten I
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: was actually sat in the bleachers. I remember, for a
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: horrible time. You get blown out against the Yankees, went
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: to the Yankee Stadium obviously several times them there. Yeah,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: I went to Shade to see the Mets, not against.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: The Red Size They're all gone now, but yeah, yeah,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: so yeah.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: It's just been a geography thing. Every time I've gone
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: up north, which has been it hasn't been in a minute,
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: but it used to be like every year I would
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: be going up for like a wedding or something else,
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: and either the Red Sox would be out of town
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: or have the time to go do it. So but
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: I've put in the time watching them on TV and
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: on an iPod on my phone.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, just over and over again.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like you in high school. I I'd
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: go up when I could. I had some friends that
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: lived up that. When I got into college, a lot
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: of my roommates were from the Boston area, so I'd
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: always you know, travel up there.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Uh, nothing crazy, like, I just always go Like it's funny.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I was scrolling through your Facebook and you did a
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: little thing for Ricky Henderson. I was at the Ricky
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Henderson game where he started the brawl. Oh man, that
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: was we were We had good seats too. We were
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: right on the first base, like right in line with
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: first base, and we just like it's just one of
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: those things like you just saw it, like coming into fruition.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: You're like, oh, fuck, this is gonna go down. And man,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: I don't even remember what year that was. It was
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: late nineties, I think maybe mid to late nineties. And
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Ricky was awesome. Man.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw him play again. I saw him play
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: with the Yankees at the yan Stadium against US, and
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: I went with a bunch of kids from our school.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Doug Brand I think, Davey Eaton, I forget. I can't remember.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: The rest was there. I apologize guys. We lost when
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Jody Reid booted a ball to his left I guess
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: I think it might have been a double play ball.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: He was typically a pretty solid fielder, and uh and
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: then we there was another trip we went this is
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: sort of embarrassing, but it was afterwards this is Yankees
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: a's game. So but Matt Young was a picture for
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: later for the Red Sox.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: But at the time, didn't he have a no hitter
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: for the Red Sox a loss. He was like he
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: was one of those rare paid pictures that yeah.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: This this is embarrassing. I had just gotten Tony Phillips
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: autograph and I had a Matt Young card, but I
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: accidentally handed him Bob Welch's card and he's like, that's
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: not me man. I was like what And it took
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: me like three times and I felt like such an
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: u And then uh, another time a Red Sox Yankee game,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: we won, you feeble to got near the parking lot
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: where the players would come out and get autographs. I
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: got like Carlos Kintana, Dennis lamp and then the Yankees
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: would come in. Phil Rizzuto came out one time and
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: the people were just yelling at him and he couldn't.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: He wasn't responding to any one person. He goes, yeah,
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: money store because he's random. Non secutors like what. It
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: was just kind of fun. I guess you heard money
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: stores of him. That was pretty funny. He just got mobbed.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: But yeah, most of my all of my seeing the
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: Red Sox in person, and since like two thousand has
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: been down here, a bunch of itmbraced it and and
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Turner Field especially like the Braves were good, but they
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: were not the most rabid fan base for going to
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: their games. So when the Red Sox would come to town.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: You would just sit and look in the stands and
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: you could tell it was easily three quarters of Red
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Sox fans.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they travel well.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I saw one. I saw Doug Mirabelly hit a
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: bomb and one of the last games No Mar was
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: with the Red Sox in two thousand and four. They Uh.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: I saw John Lester one of his first starts for
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: the Red Sox was at Turner. Pitched really well. And
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: I had have been this rookie year. My son got
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: COG's autographed there one year, which is a super cool
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: water yea. And yeah the last year we went, like
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: the last year they played there, like they had like
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: sections cordoned off because they were like starting to move.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Was pretty depressing. And then I went to the Trop
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: and the UH and saw them at least once and
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: uh they handed out cow bells to the fans. I
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: don't know if it was a regular occurrence or it
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: was a club or a one night there, but they
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: gave him to raise fans, I guess to drown out
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: the Red Sox fans. It was the most deafening thing
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: of God, like five thousand cow bells and we won
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Poppia Homer over my head and we were sitting in
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: the right field bleachers. But yeah, then Chattanooga we had
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: when I lived there, we had the Lookouts double a team,
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: and we had a ton of guy guys come up
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: through there. And at one point John Valentin and Doug
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: man Kavich were Lookouts managers. I think Tim Niring was
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: or at least a coach at one and uh, you
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: know Byron Buxton sealed week Joey Evado, I got a
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: story about So he's in the league. You know, he's
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: playing in like Japan or Cuba or Mexico or somewhere,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: and I have to look it up. He's in another
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: he's in another league. He had like domestic violence accusations.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: I don't remember the exact series of events, but he's
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: been sort of blacklisted out of playing foreign fighters. But
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: this was right before he came up, and I remember
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: he field I one hopper off the wall and through
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: a line drive to third base from right field, didn't
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: even bounce and nail the guys. Is absolutely unbelievable. I
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: saw Miguel Snow down there, Joe Evado, Adam Dunn, Austin,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: just tons of guys. So it was the red and
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: then the Dodgers and Twins, Max Kepler, just a ton
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: of guys. So that was kind of cool. Yeah, get
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: tickets for like next to nothing or nothing, right, get
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: like media people would hope me up. Was kind of cool.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I had to spend three.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: What was it, two games at Jet Blue Park cost
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: me and my buddy four tickets, like three hundred, six
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars for two games. That's crazy, just a fucking
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: and no one really played like we were seeing. We
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: saw the Mets on Sunday and nobody played, No Soto,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: no anybody. I was like, well this, I mean, I
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: didn't really care whatever. I was having a good time.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I was in the eighty degree weather, I can't go
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: playing watching baseball. And we won both games.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: But like, come on, I was a little kid, and
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: this was probably right around right after the seventy eight
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: playoff game. I think I was like a year older.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: We went to on a trip to Florida to visit
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: one of my aunts, and we went to an exhibition
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: game was like the Astros Dodgers, and I remember the
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: field just being like a dump. I think my parents
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: said they paid two bucks or something to get in.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: I want to say, maybe zero beach. I don't know,
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: but man, things have changed. Yeah, they gotta. I don't know.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: They charged the money because people will pay it, I guess.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the place was sold out, you know. The beers
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: were thirteen dollars and yeah.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Inflation repair, you know. And it's been long enough, but
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: it's about.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: A great little like pullover quarter zip for you know,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty five bucks got her in buck.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, my daughter is really in a musical theater.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: She got to sing the national anthem for the River
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Dogs down here.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's cool.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Bill Bill Murray is one of the owners, and I
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: think their tickets are six or eight bucks. Of the Rays.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: So I saw Marcela Meyer play and I got a
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: picture with him with her, and then the The Rays
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: have a really good trust out prospect, Carson Williams, who
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: hit a bomb in the same game Marcelo did. But
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: they're pretty you know, Minor league baseball is a really
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: good value, especially with a team like ours. You get
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: some exciting guys. I've driven by, but I haven't been
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: to the Greenville Stadium. We had a tournament there a
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: couple of years ago at one of the other stadiums
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: in Greenville, which used to be the one of the
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Braves Minor League parks, where my son pitched in a
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: tournament there, and we couldn't get out in time to
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: get to the Greenville Drive game, but we drove by
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: floor Field and I've got to get up there this year.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, just I've pretty much been bound by geography.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: So I tried to get to the closest cool children.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: They both graduate and I'm not coaching actual kids, watch
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: slightly older kids.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, play I went to so I've been. I mean
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I've been to a lot. Obviously. I went like in
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: three or four, I think I went to two or
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: three of the Red Sox Yankee games. Mostly three. I
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: was just distraught and O four was just like I
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: think I watched them all knickerbockers at the post mall.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: And in thirteen, I went to Game two of the
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: World Series and I have this great video that I took.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: It was just I never really take videos when I'm
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: at live events, and I said, you know what, let
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: me just fucking poppies up. Fuck it, And I just
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: had him to pull my phone off, and you can't
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: really see the ball, but you just see Poppy swing
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: and he went apo. He went over the Green Monster
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: placed going crazy. Never felt anything like it there. It
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: was awesome. So fast forward to twenty twenty one. I
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: think it was twenty twenty one, right, it was the
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: UH or twenty twenty two. It was the one game
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: playoff against the Yankees. So it's me and my buddy,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: if we take the two kids. We're staying at the
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Encore Casino hotel that night, and so we were just
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: uber over and me and my buddy are getting a
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: little gooooned up and what a game like? They like
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: I So when Stanton hit the wall, he had like
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: three wall balls when he hit the one, the third
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: one and Aaron so we were on the We were
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: right right behind the dugout for the Yankees, so third
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: bay side and Aaron Judge comes running around and we're
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: all like, dude, you got to stop him. He just
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: blew right through the stop sign, gets nailed at home.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: I've never felt fenwaysh I mean, even that poppy home run,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I've never felt Fenway. It just shook. The whole place
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: was going berserk, and they really haven't had a moment
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: like that. Since. But that's what I want to see
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: again out of them. That's the that's the I mean,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Fenway is such an amazing place when it's like even
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: I was sitting next to four Yankees fans and like
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: we got along. We joked all night. You know, we
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: took an early lead. I think, I think's Boguards hit
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: a two run homer in the first and the kid
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: next to me, he goes, Oh, this fucking sucks. I
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: just wasted twelve hundred dollars. And I'm like, you spent
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: twelve hund dollars coming to this game. He goes, well, no,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: he goes, I flew here, I go.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Where do you live?
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: He goes, I live in the Bronx. He goes, I
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: went to JFK. I bought an airplane ticket, I flew
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: to Logan. I got a hotel room for the night,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: and I got tickets. It was twelve nd dollars. I'm like,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: you could have drove for fucking yeah. It's a four
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: hour drive, bro.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: But that play at third I remember, I think even
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: there's a still frame from the video of him getting
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: thrown out when he is so dead at home play. Yeah,
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: the catcher has got the ball and he's not even
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: in the frame.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, yeah, yeah, so dead.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: And yeah, that was a great game, the grand Slam,
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: the homer off of Cole knocking him out in the game.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: People make fun of the John sterling Stantonian blast and
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: when the bal didn't actually go out bounced off the
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: master and Dugo had two great hits. You could argue
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: that was maybe one of the last great Verdugo games.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: I know, you know, just I don't know. He had
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: some good games after that regular season, but I would
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: went back and watched, you know, after watching him by
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: the Yankees, and I went back and watched his He
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: just looked like a different more springing a step in
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: that game. Yeah, and the RBI hit to left center
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: then the one yanked down the right field line just
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: look like a different hitter last year. He just looked bad.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: But yeah, that was a that was amazing that we
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: went on a little run there, and uh, you know,
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: I was like, I was all, I was all for it,
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: like let's see because we just barely squeaked in. It
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: was a weird season. Yeah, we got hot, and then
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: it felt like every ten days someone else was going
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: on the covid il and you didn't know. It was
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: like we didn't know who it was gonna be, right,
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: and then we're sort of piece and stuff together. Then
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Raffie hit the bomb against the Nationals. It kind of
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: kept our season alive. And then, uh, I.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Don't know if man I forgot about yeah.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Ki k Hernandez chugged a bunch of coffee or something
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: just started hitting bombs for.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Like you know what, you know, what's funny you say.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: So the whole reason why we got tickets to that
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: game was I was I was, it was. It was Sunday,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: it was the last day of the year, and I
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: think three things needed to happen for this game that
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: even happened, and obviously Red Sox winning was one of them.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I think the Yanks win, somebody had to lose. And
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: he hit that home run. And I'm sitting with my buddy,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: We're at a bar washing football, and I said to him,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: I said, go on your phone and see what four
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: tickets to the Red Sox will cost right now, because
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: the game's not even official.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: And that's I find a lot of tickets I get, or.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: If you just buy them before the game's even you know,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: even going to be played and you get them a
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: lot cheaper. So I think we got one hundred bucks
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: a ticket, which you know it's four hundred bucks, but
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: like we were literally ten rows off of the field
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: on third base side in a playoff game. So he said,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: all right, I'll get the tickets at the hotel room.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: So of course the hotel room is what's the pain
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: in the ass. That's why we end up the Encore
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: for another four hundred dollars a night and two hundred
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: dollars and uh uber eats McDonald's for the kids, so
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: we can go down to the casino and start gambling.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I did that one year too with the Celtics.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: They were they swept Brooklyn and then they were facing
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: the Bucks in the second round and the Bucks like
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: their series got extended. So I was like, fuck it
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: if if the Bucks win tonight, they were home, it
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: was Game six, it was a Thursday. They're gonna play
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: game one Sunday at one o'clock in Boston. So I
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: just went on subhub and I got two awesome seats
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: for like eighty nine dollars. Because you know, it's not
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: a game yet, so people are just throw my tickets
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: on there and if it doesn't end up happening, you
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: get your money back. It's not like you're gambling that way.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: So, uh, I would be definitely of those things.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: What's like the closest professional team to you in any sport?
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: Uh? Any sport? Carolina Shark, So Charlotte, Charlotte.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: It's like two hours, like the Hornets and Hornets.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, tons of minor league teams, tons of college teams,
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: and then kids down here are usually either Braves fans
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: or well, there's a lot of Marlin's are raised. I've
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: met some Rais fans. It's mostly Braves fans for baseball around. Yeah,
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: Braves are pretty dominant.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're close to Georgia, right, Yeah.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's not that it's like it's like six
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: hours to Atlanta. Now four hours to Atlanta. Yeah. My
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: sister just moved to Oklahoma from Charlotte, but he was
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: like three two and a half hours three there. But yeah,
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: we're just inundated with college though, in college and minor
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: league teams down here. So I had underestimated the amount
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: of competition with amateur base baseball moved down there. I
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: mean I had visited for ten years and we just
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: decided to move here so we could be closer to
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: right right grandparents. But yeah, that's that's the closest. And
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: if you want to go to Florida, you've got some
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: teams there obviously. Yeah, and we did that. We went
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: on a before we had my son. We went on
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: like a last just kind of vacation when we were there.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: It was near Tampa and we went to a raised game.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: I remember doing that. Yeah, but everything is either north
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: or west. But I've got to get up to Fen.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still a hell hole underneath, just so you know.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: So I go every year. I go to their card show.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: It's like in May. It's coming up soon, and it's
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: pretty cool, like they set up at all the people,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: all the vendors like below like you know where the
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: where the you know the hot dog stands are, but
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: they let you walk out onto the field onto the
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Two years ago, it was kind of a little rainy,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: so it wasn't as good, but you walk the warning
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: track all the way around, and then they had the
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: four World Series trophies out there. You take pictures with
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: them and stuff. And then some of the guys that
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: were like on minor league assignments. We're actually practicing there.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Who was it there last year?
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: God, I can't remember who it was, but no one.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Knew who he was.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, that's so and so, and
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: now I can't even think of his fucking name. But
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: one of the you know, backup infielders whatever. But they're
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: all they're all out there actually practicing.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: And they obviously do that. They do the event when
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: they're out of town, so it's not like they're squeezing
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: it in, you know, in between games. But all right,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: so let's get into all right, this Teams of the Century.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Since I actually read an article about this and I
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: didn't like copy it or anything, but I said, oh,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: you know, let me make up my own, and I
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: decided to do one for the Yankees as well. Now,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: after we go through both, it's pretty fucking tight. I
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: don't know who the winner is, but we gotta we
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: gotta come up with a winner. All right, we'll start
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: with it. Well, no, we'll start with the Yankees. Uh,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: this is from basically two thousand and now you can
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: have some players that played in the nineties into the
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: two thousands. All right, we'll start with the Yankees catcher Pisada.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's many arguments there. First base to share,
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: a second base, cano, third base, a rod shortstop obviously, Jeter, I'm.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: Gonna take notes.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so the outfield obviously, Judge. Now I say Soto
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: he only played there one year, But I mean I
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: don't think that I don't really have a rule on
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: how short of a time you could play there. And
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: then my third is weird. So actually the article I
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: read had Brett Gardner, who you just mentioned, and I
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: was like, I mean, oh, he's he's a physical specimen. Yeah, well, yeah,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: that's outside of the argument. I mean, Stanton, I know
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: he's not that great. He hasn't been he hasn't lived
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: up to his money, but he's been there a while.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: He's been hurt, but he's a playoff performer. Uh he
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: just proved it last year. Again when he's healthy, he's good.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: But you know that's obviously the thing. I mean, who
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: do you got for the I mean you have to
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: have judge, obviously, but do you put Sodo.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: In there just one year?
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: I mean I.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Was up in there for me.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: Who did you say? De Sui? I mean he's a monster.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: I mean what, I feel like he's more of an
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: outfielder than Stanton stands at the AH to me, and
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: I kind of feel like one guy you haven't mentioned,
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Bernie Williams, is huge just for the longevity.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: And by the way, Giambi yeah see yeah man.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: Just as an aside I saw, speaking speaking of cards,
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: I saw a card of Jason Giambie, like one of
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: his first cards with Oakland where he super skinny. Later
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: it was just unreal, Like, no, this guy's not as uh.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: It's sort of a toss up, man. I think of
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: Giambi and Stanton as d hs, especially when as Yankees.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: I think it's Stanton as an outfielder with the Marlins.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: I feel like I like the Bernie Williams one though
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: he was obviously in the nineties, one of them all,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: but he was there for a while.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he was.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: He always killed.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: Us Hideki met Suley. I almost have to go over
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: Stanton just because of staying on the field and just
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: it was brutal when he had the opportunity to be
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: brutal like this very you know. But Stanton, I mean
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: it's just been a health thing for him. You could
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: should have like another two hundred homers in his career.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was to stay healthy.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a toss up. You're right there.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't know the one Soto being on
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: the list. It's sort of like, do you count Adrian
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: Belchray with the Red Sox because he had that one
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: monster season? I don't know, but your list sounds good
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: to me. I just it's sort of a toss up. Otherwise,
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: what do you got for pitching or did you not
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: do pitch?
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I did pitching to starting pitching Cole Messina, C. C.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Clemmens and Pettitt.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't really argue with that. I think and
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: are pretty much a little lower, like a letter grade lower.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: And uh yeah, that's that's pretty much dead on.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: And then uh, obviously for the pitchers, Mariano, I mean,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: he's gonna win every debate. It was really I was
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: just kind of like scouring through all the relievers. I
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: came up with, like, what's funny, I got them on
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: both teams. But Andrew Miller, Uh, we're Aldus Chapman, and
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: uh I always thought that he would get hit sometimes.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: We always seen to pitch well against us Is David Robertson.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish the Red Sox would sign him this year.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: He's still hanging in. Yeah, and uh, I don't know
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: how I'm going to react to or oldest being on
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: the Red Sox is. One of my most enjoyable things
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: was watching him sweat against us whenever he so some
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: sweat for his putting him that much late, little time
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: on the job.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: So he pitched, and he pitched out in Fort Myers
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: the first game we they were pitching. They're playing the Twins,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: and he came in and I told my kid, I'm like, listen,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: I guarantee this is gonna be a typical Chapman inning.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: What does he do? Walks the first two guys, strikes
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: out the next two, and then a wall ball gets
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: caught luckily by the outfielder. And I'm like, that's what
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: we're got to deal with every fucking time he comes.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: In, which is not super crazy different than Kenley Janssen
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: last year, Like yeah, you know, especially with the fake
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: balk to get the guy just to go to third.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: We've never had that reliever bill that, Like, we've never
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: obviously no one's really had to Mariano, but we've never
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: had that guy where actually Kogi or Ahara I thought,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: was the guy that, like you wouldn't you like, just
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: get it to Kogi. You never said just get it
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: to fucking Papple Bond. Maybe one point you did, or
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: you never said, uh, get it to Kimberl. Like these
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: guys scared the ship out of us.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Kimberl was. Kimberl was pretty hot until he wasn't.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: And I remember Lee Smith used to drive me. He
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: used to just even be so nerve wracking and uh,
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: but Kogi was probably the most enjoyable closer to watch
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: just because he was just he didn't he didn't walk anybody.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: That's the thing, that's my whole thing. I know. I'm
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: the pitching coach and bench coach for our team, and
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: if we can get strike one over, we cannot walk guys.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: And we get the first pitch over for a strike,
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: you're setting yourself up for success. And these guys that
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: come in and they walk a guy just because they
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: walked out and they just can't stop. It's like, man,
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: your margins are already, so just throw strikes, right. So yeah,
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: I think that's a good list, like you know, you know,
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: and then another thing relief pitchers are so violent. So
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: like when I'm playing Fantasy Baseball, like I subscribe to
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: the don't overpay for closers thing because this guy is
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: gonna be amazing.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: I sacrifice that stat every year.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like I'll get one in like the tenth or
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: twelfth round or something. But like, so you got there's
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: probably a ton of guys that had one or two
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: great years in the Yankee bullpen, but you know in
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: the Red Sox bullpen. But if they can't, you know,
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: keep doing it, they become you know, a blink. I
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: mean we you know, Keith Folk, he had a great
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: couple of years, but he wasn't really here that long
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: though he was gone. Most of his great years were
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: before we got him.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: And I remember a guy for the Brewers back in
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: the early two thousands, Derek Turnbow. I had him. He
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: was a monster. Then he was out of baseball. I
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: think two years after that.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: He just never remember Like Eric Gagne, Yeah, like had
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: like the longest what was the longest shutout streak or
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: something not well, something like that.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: Get anybody out.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was awful.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: It's like something happened Matt Barnes, what happened to him.
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they say overuse, but I'll go with that.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I think I think if you
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: all right, well we'll actually we'll finish on that. Let's
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: get to the reds. I do have a question for
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: you before we finish, but let's get to the Red Sox.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: I'll run through it really quick. Uh, catcher verattach obviously
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: first base. I got Yukalust there because third I got Devs. Second,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: I got paedroya h shortstop, so I have Boguards there.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: But like Nomar was phenomenal until he got traded, Like
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: he was one of the best players in the league.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: So I'm a little and Boguards just has done nothing
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: since he's left, which doesn't mean anyth what he did
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: when he was here. But I don't know what would
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: you do at shortstop, Bulgarts or Nomar.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, take away the injuries and stuff Nomar was on.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: All you remember at the time, you know you'd have
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: I think Ted Williams said that he reminded him of
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: Joe Diamaggio, like the ceiling for normal was higher. And
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: I don't I'm not going to make any I'm not
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: going to come out and say anything directly. But the
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: years he played, it wasn't just the big, huge dudes
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: that were probably using stuff that stuff. Can you know
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: recavoc on your body? I don't know. I always thought
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: it was kind of funky how he just broke down
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: the way he did. But his his plateaus were higher.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: Xander has been more durable, but his numbers sort of
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: more pedestrian the last few years.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: His salary certainly isn't.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just crazy, crazy crazy.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: I was so mad when he left and I saw
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: the numbers. I'm like, I can't argue with that, Like
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I can't get mad at that.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: I feel like, if Trevor story had stayed healthy, I
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: thought about it, Yeah, yeah, I have to give just
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: you know, at their prime, I have to give. I
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: do too.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, I wrote bow Guards Down first because he
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: was first in my head.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a second, I know, no, mar didn't
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: win a ring with us, but but he was just
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: pure magic. Yeah, he was. He was everyone's favorite player.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: He was Ortis before Teas was there, and of course,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: you know, it just ended the way it ended, unfortunately,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: and he you know, he just hated management and the
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: media and all that ship outfield, Manny, Mookie. Now the
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: third one I have Elsbury written down, but I also
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: have a question mark next to it. I don't know
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: who else I had a mind, but I wrote this
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: last night, obviously at H.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: So when you mentioned this earlier, I was thinking about
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: the outfields. And this might be premature just because we're
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: still watching him do this, but I could make the
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: case for Mookie, Manny and Jared Durant in center field, like.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, we definitely need one more year out
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: of Duran.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: I would want to see him do another, you know,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: but the combination of just strength and blazing speed and
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: the growth that he's done, especially defensively, especially really optimistic.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: Now you know, you know, super fast guys like that,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: they have a you know, history of you know, it
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: doesn't you know, speed goes away blah blah blah. So
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: again we're gonna have to see. But you know, I
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: love Jamie Jay, I loved Andrew Ben and Tendi when
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: we had him. We've had someone, you know, Chian Victorino.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: He's not in this level, but he he was fantastic. JD.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: Drew I think underperformed with the Red Sox, although great.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: One of the greatest Grand slams in Red Sox history.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: Very clutch hits.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's I like Trot Nixon. He was one
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: of my faves, yep.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: I mean those guys won in Elsbury. He had that
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: one monster year and then he left and then he
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: couldn't stay on the field. All right, monster year, then
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: a bunch of injuries. No more saying things like, you know,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say, you know, baseball's going I'm
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: not going to accuse anybody anything. I just noticed stuff. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: what's going on?
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, my favorite, my favorite noticing of all time
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: was Brett Brett Boone from Seattle back in the day
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: and Brady and yeah yeah, fifty runs one year.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, well Luis Gonzales, I mean it's you know,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: and it's the more amazing thing is that in the
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: middle of it, none of like the writers, like nobody's
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: like speaking up and going hey, you know, because they're
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: they're all benefiting from I guess.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the money world. Let me tell you something. I
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: was all for it. Steroid air fuck it, I I'm not.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think they should be out of the Hall
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: of Fame. I think if the pitchers were doing it.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: It's just there everything everybody was on a different level.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: It's still one of the hardest sports to play.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: You gotta be able to put the bat to the ball.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: I mean how much you get stronger, Yes, but it's
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: not like, you know, everyone's just jose Canseeko mashing, you know,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: things five hundred feet. I don't know, it's it's it's
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: a great thing.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think we'll find in years to come that
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: some of these guys will get in after it. Let
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: us have to wait longer. I think things will change
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: on that. I don't know. It's just funny to me.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: It's such a weird moment and it's just like Sammy.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: But were we not glued to the TV?
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Like, were we not watching Sports Center every night or
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: the live look ins that they're at bat.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: There was even less distractions back then, and yeah, it
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: was like what just remember it vividly. It was like
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: guys can hit a home run at will.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which makes like Maguire looked like herculean though, like
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: he was just like they look like he had a
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: toothpick in his hands when he was fucking swinging.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, you know, like I said, It makes
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: Pedro's performance against those dudes even more impressive to me.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of Pedro, He's number one on my list
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: for starting pitching. Pedro sail Lester Beckett's schilling. I know
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: I rattled that off quick, but I want I wanted
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: to put sim Wakefield in just for longevity and I
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: just love the guy and rest in peace, buddy.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: He was one of my favorite Red Sox of all time.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: I just think and this has nothing to do with
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: two thousand and three or I mean he saved our
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: ass in two thousand and four in that extra ending game.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: Derek low Derek Lowe is another good one, yep.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: Struggling in the regular season. Yeah, I think those are
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: appropriate picks. Again, we've had some guys that you know,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: flash with brilliance for a year or two, and we
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: got some pretty optimistic at what we have now, but
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: those are those are pretty solid.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: Oh ship, what was the guy that we got from
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: the Angels?
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: Uh? Oh?
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: Fucking everyone hated her? He thought he was hated. John Lackey. Yes, yes,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm not putting him on this list, but
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: he actually fucking was a good picture for us.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: Well, he pitched the whole season pretty much, meaning surgery
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: and got the surgery and then came back and lo
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: and behold, he can actually get guys out again. He
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: just his personality told you that he's gonna pitch if
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: his arm's on fire and he's gonna have to be
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: stopped and forced to go get it fixed from where
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: he comes back.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: That's what that was all about, right, And then relieve
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: papal Bond, Kog Andrew Miller and I have Kimberle down.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: I mean again, it's you really picking from not a
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: great litter. I mean, you could put folk in there.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: I guess if you want to go to you know,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: the short stint route.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: All right, so's so who's better?
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Like, I mean, I'm just gonna give the relief pitching
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: to the Yankees just because they have Mariano and there's nothing.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, you get to the fucking eighth or ninth inning,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: it's over starting pitching though, Like Cole is always hitt
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: and miss he's a great pitcher. Messina was, yeah, Messina.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: CC had his moments, Clemens had his moments. He had
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: great moments. Pettitt was consistent. But when you look at
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: Pedro and Sale, those two guys were you know, auto
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: automatic wins, like just chalk up the win and worry
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: about the next day. Shilling.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: I wish we had him when he was a little younger, but.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: He lived up to the hype. Lester I thought was
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: always fantastic. And Josh Beckett, like you know, he teetered
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: out towards the end, but he was another one. He was.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: We those are all aces.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's honestly, it feels like a toss
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: up in history. I mean, twenty eighteen, some of those
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: guys we beat him, thousand and four. Some of those
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: guys we beat him like we've we've teed off on
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: coal in years with lousy teams. I'm totally comfortable saying
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: it's pretty much a toss up.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: I love the memes too, of like Dever's home runs
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: are going to be down this year because colds out.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I have to fight the urge to
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: cheer all bad news about the Yankees. But it does
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: take it down a letter grade for me when he's
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: not out there, because there's amount of respect that you know,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: he with the quality picture he is that it means
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: something to beat him that badly. I just I just man,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: I feel like they're in trouble.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: I think they are to I think they're.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: An extended injury to Aaron Judge away from bordering on
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: a rebuild. They were in the World Series last year.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: Now you can argue the path to the World Series
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: was among the weakest we've ever seen.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: It always seems that way for them. Minnesota, Cleveland, Minnesota, Cleveland.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: So you had you had you down at first.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he got and he.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: Thought, I just I don't know, he left kind of
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: under bad terms. But Adrian Gonzalez had a couple of
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: monster years he did, but was just he was fantastic
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: and probably had him on the edged him out with
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: the glove. Yeah.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna put Adrian Gazzelz the first,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: might as well throw Carl Crawford an outfield, right.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just kidding.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: That was one of our worst ever free agent signings.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: Actually, love, I loved that. That team should have won
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: a World Series.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a monster when he was in Tampa.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: He's like he was Jaron Duran. Now he was had
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: some pop, amazing speed, good defender.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: It was a gym rat too.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just like, man, what happened. It's just
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: kind of a bummer.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm taking the Red Sox over the Yanks
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: all day, and we went four to their one in
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: this century, So yeah, I mean that's the deciding factor
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: right there. I guess, right, yeah, I'm just it's it is.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Going back to the whole Twitter thing,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: I found myself mixing it up more with negative Red
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: Sox fans than I do Yankee fans because the Yankee
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: fans it's just sort of repredictable arguments. And yeah, I'm
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: not scared of their team. I like. I like Aaron
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: Judge every I think he's probably a really cool guy
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: and he's really talented. Obviously he seems like a straight
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: up dude, no, you know, no, lie whatever. But ever
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: since he held up that Boombach Park, he's he's got,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: you know, like Kolia in section ten. He's just like
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: kryptonite on him against beat like either big games or
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: especially beating the Red Sox at a big game. I'm
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: just not scared. Who's their third base man again? And
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: can Jason Domingez catch a ball? Oh God, would you
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: give that contract to Max Freed? And who's playing first
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: base again?
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: I didn't realized was already that old. I thought he
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: was younger than that.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: I mean he was. I wouldn't have complained if.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: The Red Sox, No, I wouldn't have either. I just
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: I just I thought he was like twenty six for
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: some reason. It's it's it's so hard with the baseball
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: guys because a lot of them get started so late.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: You know, they don't start without twenty five, twenty six,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: you know, especially the pictures they need to develop. And
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: what's your what's your thought on this is this guy
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: for the Red Sox?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: Is this I call him this enigma.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: He's either gonna be a superstar a bust or he's
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: gonna be traded for Vladimir Carrero Junior Cassius what what what? What?
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: What is your what is your gut feeling on how
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: his season goes this year?
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: Is he is gonna be hurt again? He's gonna break out?
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: Dude.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: I watched him stretch. This dude was literally like fucking
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: dry humping the grass. It was fucking weird.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: I like guys health, guys of personality. That doesn't bother
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: me at all. To me, it's all a health thing.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: And when he was saying last year that it felt
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: he was getting stabbed in the ribs. That was like,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: all right, that's my main concern. He hit a ball
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: against the Giants and opposite field homer to left center
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: field that you know, you know, Windy Ballpark. That just
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: blew my mind, like his power. So I feel like
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: first base is a it's not talked about as much
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: that that position has gotten kind of lame in recent years,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: Like it used to be a lot of this this
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: mashers there and it's sort of gone down. So it's
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: not that easy to replace him. If you get Vladdie,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: then yeah, right right, that's a generational talent. I think
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: you have room to ride it out with Costas and
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: see where it goes. And you could trade him too.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: You hope that he plays well. I feel like nobody's
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: probably harder on himself than he is. I like, I
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: like the played approach. I wish I like to see
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: I'm really interested to see stuff happen this year that
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: I thought would happen last year. It didn't because he
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: wasn't on the field, which is continued growth with the glove,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: and to see like what he could really put up
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: numbers wise over a full season at the big league level.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: We've got a couple guys even you know, Myers never
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: played more than like ninety one games in the minor
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: league season. Story has been out, ye like, it's a
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: health issue. If we stay healthy. And I know this
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: is such a cliche thing. I used to make fun
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: of this one. I would interview high school coaches back
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: when it was way back covering high school games. Well,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: if we still stay healthy, we have a chance to win.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: It is the number one most important thing with this team.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: It's health. That's why we got it. We have the
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: death on the pitching side, so I get it. While
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: he rubs people the wrong way, but I think.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: He's a he's a in person.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: He's a monster.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: He is.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: He is a big motherfucker.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: He's smart. He might you might argue that he knows
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: too much about baseball, pays too much attention, and but
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: you know, we also had you know, we have the
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: whole bit about you know, should you celebrate or not
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: and all this stuff. There's nothing that he's really done
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: that's made me go that's really been a red flag.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: The main thing for me is can you stay healthy.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: That's a big dude. And when he's hurting his back
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: on a swing. That's a complex that's a core injury.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: That's a complex thing to me. Like, there's a lot
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: of moving parts there. Do you get the mental thing
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: like I got to not swing as hard, you know?
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: And then there's what kind of pain can you play
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: with and not make it worse versus making it worse?
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: All that stuff. So he's definitely on my radar. I
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: feel like the addition of Bregman is huge from a
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: not only I don't know, if you feel like he
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: needs to be more professional as a guy, Bregman will
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: help with that if you need someone to and a
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: story can stay on the field too, and you got
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: those two guys. Those two guys can set the tone
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: for professionalism, your routine, staying focused and stuff like that.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: So there's a lot of moving, interchangeable parts. As an outlier, really,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: it's just a hell thing for me. His personality and
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: what he's doing out there. I've seen all kinds of
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: weird crap. Bill.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not lying too. He fucking was dry humping. My
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: kids said something. He goes, what is he doing out there?
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I don't know.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: He just had a rough night last night. I don't
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: know what to tell you.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: Man, I'm coaching high school kids and they're just dropping
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: all kinds of slang all the time, and like, like
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: it can get annoying. I get it.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I think he's my favorite current player.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: I just like him. I want him to succeed.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, I got a.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: Bunch, dude.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe that's it. Maybe I'm just hoping they turn
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: into something that they're not.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: Right now, I break you know, it's just to me,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: it's it's it's a good problem. But we've got a
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: lot of guys where there's it's like is a Bray healthy?
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: Is Raffie healthy? His story healthy? Is crow I just
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: full transparency. I look at someone like Garrett Crochet and
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: I think I'm concerned about durability with him. He hasn't
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: done it long. He was a short term through not
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: a lot of innings and kind of got hurt early
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: in his career. And I'm like, all right, I want
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: to extend this guy. But we also saw Chris Sale
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: not pitch for four or five first seasons for us.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: You know that's always a crap shoot. You would think, well,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: the team like the Red Sox, they could weather that
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: stuff and still be competitive, which is a lot of
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: I guess the complaints that people lobby ownership, right, So,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: but I just feel like we've got guys that nobody's
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: really talking about a lot that like Richard Fitz, I
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: think David Hamilton could have a good year. I still
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: want to see what von Grislom could do. And I
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: understand how other dudes saying that we got to trade guys.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: They don't want him to spoil, but you also don't
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: know who's gonna get it hurt in two seconds. We
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: didn't expect costs some story to be gone on like
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: April and Male right here. So I just I'm it's
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: like a wait and see thing. If can click and
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: stay healthy, he's gonna be among the funnest dudes to
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: watch play, just regardless, because he can just crush the
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: ball and it's all over the place, and you know,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: playing in Fenway man go on the opposite field, you know,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: he's do.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: We see Bobby dollback this year?
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: Bobby No, he's with the White Sox. Dude.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: I was like every year, it's like a bout hell.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: Guy was like over forty in the miners and they
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: called him up man.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: So yeah, so he pitched in college. I thought he
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: should have. You know, I know, Joey Gallow announced he's good.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: I saw that.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, I don't know what it is now.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: I thought Joey.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: Gallow was forty. The guy's fucking thirty one.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I joked on Twitter that he's well, he
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: already hits like a pitcher. Yeah, Bobby Man, if you
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: if you go, I took a screen grab last year
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: of He's like splits his stats a major league stats
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: and they just it was just a sad decline. The
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: guy's got amazing power and seemed like a pretty solid
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: defender at both places they played. You will never hear
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: anybody complain a complain about him as a guy, like
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: amazing teammate, hard worker and all that stuff. It just
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: goes to show you, man, baseball is freaking hard, like
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: you know, and it was like Michael Chavis, he would
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: never lay off fastballs up here and that all the time.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: I thought, you know, he was going to be a guy.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: For a minute there, I thought Bobby would like figure
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: it out. He had a great second half and twenty
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: one and then you just watch him strike out and
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: then walk back to the dugout, low his head down
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: over and over again, and then he'd go to triple
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: A and mash. But he's still striking out thirty five
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: percent of the time. I don't know. We grew up
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: in a time where it was very rare you had
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: dudes striking out that much, and now it's like just
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: it's baked in, it's expected. It's not a big right.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: I go through this in my head. Do I want
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: a guy to strike out eighty times and hit twenty
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: bombs or I strike out one hundred and fifty times
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: and hit thirty five bombs? Like what, I don't know.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: There's there's eight guys standing out there with gloves. I
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: like the ball to get hit, right. I like to
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: see some action, more balls in play, the quicker the game. Like,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know. For him, just he just seemed lost.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: It was like I thought for the longest time, was
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: a change of scenery type thing, like if he went
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: to Oakland or somewhere and just you know, hit six
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: and lot's to see how it goes. Yeah, but yeah,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: I'm not surprised you missed. That was very unheralded under.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: The Yeah, I just actually I just thought of his
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: name as we're talking about cash because I was like,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: I hope Cashis doesn't go the way of doubt bats.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: Remember when they called him up last year. I'm like,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: this is how bad this has gotten? Well, this is
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: our depth.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: One reason I don't think Cassas will go that way.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: If the Cossas takes way more pitches than Bobbywood Cossus. Yeah,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: he'll spit on a lot of pitches. So he's definitely
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: someone to watch, and I feel like you'll get a
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: good glimpse by the end of this season as to
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: what you can look for out of him on a
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: long term basis. Really yeah, you know, he's but he's
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: definitely guy I'm looking at.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe we do this in five years from now, he'd
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: take over Uke at first, who knows, But.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: If I have a chance to get Vladimir career, yeah, yeah, year. Yeah,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: it seems like it seems like he at least kind
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: of wants to come here. I mean, you.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: Gotta are we going to pay them five hundred million dollars?
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: Though I don't know if we do. I don't give
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: a ship. All right, Uh, we're gonna wrap this one
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: up with my Uh thanks by the way, for all
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: the Red Sox insight, you do definitely do you have
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: a memory or something that I don't have, But uh,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: you remember a lot.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: Of good ship obsessive.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Because you watch him on the computer
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: and you probably get the rolling stats and you read,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: you're reading as you're watching.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: You can make the argument I pay way too much.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: Well, you only got one sport too. I do all four.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: So that's what it is.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: I do the segment of the week. It's been a
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, but this one was last week. A
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: Leila Everett name ring a bell to you? No, okay, well,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: this is what she did here. Once I say this,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: you'll know. She was in a track and field event
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: in a relay against a Kaylin Tucker was her opponent
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: on a four by one hundred, and she was coming
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: around the last bend and was losing, so she decided
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: to take the baton and smash it on the other
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: girl's head. About that, yeah, so, which in turn led
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: the girl to fall into the infield. And I don't
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: think the girl and the other girl and winning the race.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: But the story just doesn't end there. She then came
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: out on social media next day and said that she
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: didn't do it on purpose.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: Now did you actually see the video?
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: I saw like a looping clip.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah. So basically it's like me walking up
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: to you and saying, hey, Bill, and I punched you
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: in the face.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: And then everyone's like, and I.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: Come out on social media, oh he fucking ran into
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: my hand, Like what the fuck? That's how blatant is
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: like it was bad. So she comes out.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: After the fact that she's yeah, that to start off.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: But then the n DOUBLEACP gets involved. Now both of
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: these girls are black, but they side with the assailant.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: So the NUAACP says, anyone who suggests she purposely hit
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: her is shameful. She's not an attacker, and anyone saying
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: that that is shameful. And then she had a rally
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: and I think like thirty people showed up, but she's.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: Like, I'm not violent, I'm not this, I'm not that.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: I would never do that.
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  Speaker 1: Like, wouldn't the NAACP want to go with the victim?
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  Speaker 1: Or is that the world we live in? Now you're
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  Speaker 1: a media guy, is it? Because they're attacking this girl
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  Speaker 1: for attacking that girl. Now they have to come in
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  Speaker 1: and step up and defend the attacker. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's it's just so strange to me, how like
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of avenues we can go down because
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's race involved. It's just that's too
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  Speaker 1: happy to be black.
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  Speaker 3: But well there was a running race right right right.
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  Speaker 1: And I just it fascinates me these stories of how
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  Speaker 1: they escalate into something that they really didn't need to be.
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  Speaker 1: Like she's yeah, you know what, I was frustrated. I
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  Speaker 1: swung accidentally hit her in the head. I apologize, and
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  Speaker 1: and now she's being arrested for like, you know, misdemeanor
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  Speaker 1: assault or something. But like the NAACP has to get
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  Speaker 1: involved in this and hold a rally for her when
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  Speaker 1: she's the the attacker.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I have noticed, you know, and it's not it's
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  Speaker 3: all kinds of organizations. They've got to seize the opportunity
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  Speaker 3: to get exposure, right, So, yeah, they run the risk
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  Speaker 3: of being idiots if if it makes the their base
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  Speaker 3: core of donors give money to them, they're gonna get
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: out there, and they got to say something. And yeah,
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  Speaker 3: she might have done this, but isn't there a bigger
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: problem that we should come together to address that. That
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: happens a lot. I just think I feel like it's
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  Speaker 3: we live in a very bizarre you know, like in
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: the Stranger and Stranger things. I feel like we live
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  Speaker 3: in the upside doubt it. You think in an era
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  Speaker 3: of like on demand four K video footage of every
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  Speaker 3: altercation or event that ever happens, that some of the
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: stuff would be irrefutable and that people would go, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but I know you said you didn't do it, but
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: the video is right there. Sometimes they don't come, they
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: don't care. Sometimes the argument shifts to another argument, and
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: this is just this opportunity to root the point on
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: what the real problem is or whatever without getting too detailed.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: That happens all the time. It's just sort of crazy.
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  Speaker 3: I guess it depends on what your definition of right
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: and wrong is and what your personal integrity is and
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: can you stay on topic. Something happens. I mean, this
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  Speaker 3: is I mean, I'm sure there'll be something else involving
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: a completely different group of people in an event that
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: will happen tomorrow, and they will you know, I don't know.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: I can't remember if the NAACP was supporting Jesse Smollett.
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  Speaker 3: But like he never, he never, he never backed down.
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  Speaker 3: Still dial in. You know, usually you can tell that if,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: like the celebrities that were out there that were originally
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: supporting you, then they do a one any or they
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: get quiet. You can usually you know the person's dug in.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: It's really hard to say I was wrong, which was sad,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: because that's one of the best ways in life to
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: like really make progress and like, you know.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: Look at for example, in the baseball world. Yeah, I
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: mean he is like all the way back. He'll get
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame one day.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he he actually addressed the whole knocking
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: the Bruce and Bronson Arroyo my with a rod is.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: I think he is the laziest baseball analyst ever. He
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: doesn't do like I don't think he does any prep
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: and he's like on his cell phone in actual games.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: As far as like owning his past, I think he's
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: probably done as good, if not better than anybody that
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: was caught up in that crap. You've got other guys
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: that still won't even haven't really even addressed it. I
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: think they all need to get together because they were
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: all there's one you know, one line of messaging and
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: then they got hung out to dry when baseball was
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: supporting them. They need all to come together and all
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: apologize together or whatever. I don't know. Yeah, I'm not
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: down with people like crashing into someone or or knocking
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: into somebody, or disrupting somebody's ability to compete in a game.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, I've seen it in baseball games either. I'm
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: not down with that. I'm not that with coaches doing that.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: And it'll blow over, you know. You know, I do
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: have decent experience in the media world, and however crazy
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: or hairy or bad it looks, there will be something
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: in about four days that replaces it.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: Oh it's it's it's you know.
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  Speaker 3: I'll call your characterization accurate.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Bill, thanks so much for coming on. Man, it
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: was great to catch up with you. You're ever up
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: in the obviously up north again. I know you Southern
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: You northerre was that goes south you never come back.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: Charleston is like Charleston is like if Madison, Guildford, Clinton,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: Old Sarook. We're in the South. It's creepy and there's
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: like I see a Connecticut license plate every single day.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the place I was there a couple
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: of times it snowed one Damn I was there. It
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: was weird. The whole city shutdown. Yeah, I'm down that.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: I'll holler at you and uh, you know, enjoy the
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: season is one of the few in the first couple
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: of years. I'm actually I can't wait for opening Day.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty excited, pretty pumped. Hopefully this is a Hopefully
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: we just make the playoffs. I'm not looking at the
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: division just yet. Let's play about fifty games and see
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: where we're at. But I definitely I think the playoffs
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: in a wild card. Uh, is definitely in our future
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: this year. And you know, with baseball, just get in
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: and then you know, anything can happen.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: So I'm always choosing optimism with the Red Sox.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, this year, so I will I'll tag in
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: all the good stuff and uh and I'll send you
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: the audio version of it and uh and uh yeah
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: let's go socks baby. Oh and check him out if
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: you are a Socks fan. He Socks South on Twitter
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: s A U X s O U T H. He
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: always has good quips in little I think you troll
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: people more than anything though. You like you like to
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: like say something that like you like cash, you'll like
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: go on today, probably like cash just sucks. Just trade
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: them already.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: I like to poke certain people. Yeah, I generally like
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: to try to say what's not being said, or summarize
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: what's being said, or just have fun or fine stuff
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: that's interesting nobody's talking about. And uh, but if you
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: post a lot of dumb stuff, I will probably respond
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: to at least one of those things, which is probably
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: of not good use of my time.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: You gotta go coach a team, man, Come on, when
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: that state championship this year, I do.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: I'm going.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: I'm going, all right, brother, good luck to you, and
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: I'll chat with you soon see it.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: But