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How Many NFL First-Round Draft Picks For Ohio State In 2025 And 2026? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Speaker 1: strange thing about the show, as you guys know, the
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Speaker 1: draft is tonight, so we can't really preview it because
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Speaker 1: it's it's The show is tomorrow morning, so what we'd
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Speaker 1: preview is would already be done. But we're still gonna
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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about it and then also look
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Speaker 1: ahead to possible first rounders next year because the the
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Speaker 1: NFL first round of the NFL Draft is tonight and Kevin,
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Speaker 1: there's a wide range. I've seen five guys mocked over
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Speaker 1: the course of all of these mock drafts, the five
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Speaker 1: Buckeyes that could end up in the first round, and
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Speaker 1: just for clarity's sake, I'm a Bears fan, Kevin is
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Speaker 1: a Cowboys fan. Kevin, who do you want the Cowboys
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Speaker 1: takes tonight at twelve?
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Speaker 2: Oh my god? They need so much? Can they take
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Speaker 2: a new owner? If they could replace Jerry Jones, I
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Speaker 2: would be thrilled. I've spent so much time focusing on
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Speaker 2: Buckeyes in the draft and everything else that I've not
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Speaker 2: had the I've not had in the Venn diagram. I've
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Speaker 2: not had the circles link or anything else.
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Speaker 1: Well, I know which buck eye would you like at
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Speaker 1: twelve if you had to take one at twelve?
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Speaker 2: Honestly, I think i've seen I've seen Ted McMillan from
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Speaker 2: Arizona mocked there. How about we just take him out
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Speaker 2: and we put a Mecca Buca in. Then I think
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Speaker 2: that you know he with with a Mecca Buca. He's
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Speaker 2: an inside outside guy, probably more inside some outside. I
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Speaker 2: think they need another outside to go with Seedee Lamb.
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Speaker 2: So I don't know if a Buka necessarily fits their needs,
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Speaker 2: but just based on everything else, I mean, yeah, they
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Speaker 2: always need offensive lineman. Yes, I mean Josh Simmons would
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Speaker 2: be would be a great pick, but you know, somebody
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Speaker 2: coming off of a pretty catastrophic injury. I mean, we
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Speaker 2: do not have the benefit of seeing the medicals and
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Speaker 2: knowing what happened there. I could think of a lot
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Speaker 2: of players that I'd like to end up in Dowas,
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Speaker 2: But yeah, at twelve, you got to get it right.
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Speaker 2: You've got to get it right. And unfortunately, I'm always
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Speaker 2: very skeptical of what Jerry and Steven and the rest
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Speaker 2: of the Jones family decides to do.
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Speaker 1: Me being a Bears fan. The Bears are at ten,
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind Ashton Genty from Boise Stay, but it
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Speaker 1: sounds like he might not get past Jacksonville at five.
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Speaker 1: And this this group, this running back group is so
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Speaker 1: deep that I don't think you need to trade up
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Speaker 1: to go get a running back. I think there'll be
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Speaker 1: one for you there. And the Bears I have like
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Speaker 1: two second round picks, so they can get somebody there.
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Speaker 1: I'm what I don't want is to player. I don't
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Speaker 1: want an offensive lineman. I don't want Matthew Gold and
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Speaker 1: the wide receiver. I'm not I just you know, I don't.
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Speaker 1: I don't think they need an offensive linean to per se.
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Speaker 1: And again these are just this is me and Kevin
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Speaker 1: talking you guys. Sorry for the aside there, but well.
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Speaker 2: Let me throw in here. Yeah. I was just watching
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Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah's final mock on NFL Network as we're recording this,
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Speaker 2: and he had Tana Warren going to Chicago.
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Speaker 1: And I've also seen Colston Loveland in some of that
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Speaker 1: discussion as well. Where you know, do I want either
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Speaker 1: of those guys at ten?
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Speaker 2: Maybe not.
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Speaker 1: I think Tyler Warren gets a little bit of boost
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Speaker 1: because he did all of the stuff that nobody's gonna
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Speaker 1: ask him to do in the NFL. You know, nobod's
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Speaker 1: gonna ask him to carry the ball. You know what,
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Speaker 1: you don't have to You don't have to play quarterback here,
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Speaker 1: things like things that he had to do at at
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Speaker 1: Penn State. We don't need you to be the Wildcat.
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Speaker 1: But how many if I set the over under because
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Speaker 1: you you put a post on the board asking, well,
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Speaker 1: this is for later on, but somebody else put a
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Speaker 1: post on the we're asking you for an over under.
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Speaker 1: Put it set the over under at two and a
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Speaker 1: half for Ohio state first round picks this year, and
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Speaker 1: just I'll throw the names out there, the names that
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Speaker 1: I've seen that have been in various mocks, and we
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Speaker 1: all start looking at mock drafts around January and then
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Speaker 1: it just continues for like four months. But you've got
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Speaker 1: mecha Buke, You've got Josh Simmons, You've got Traveon Henderson,
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Speaker 1: Donovan Jackson, and Tyler Williams are the five names that
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Speaker 1: we've seen that I've seen, as have you seen anybody else?
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Speaker 1: I haven't seen like Jack Sayer, J T. Tweed, Molowill
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Speaker 1: haven't necessarily been mentioned as much as they were early on.
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Speaker 1: Quinch Young Judkins, I haven't seen him mentioned. You know,
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Speaker 1: those these are all more second third round guys. But
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Speaker 1: of those five and anybody else, if we set the
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Speaker 1: under over under at two and a half, where are you.
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Speaker 2: At taken the under? I'm taking the under just based
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Speaker 2: on you say you start looking at mox in January.
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Speaker 2: I'm already looking at twenty twenty six, monks. I I'm
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Speaker 2: one of those sick os when it comes to the draft.
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Speaker 2: I love the draft, and you know I just and
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Speaker 2: and let's not forget that there were there was a
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Speaker 2: mock draft out there a year in advance of its
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Speaker 2: draft that had seven Banks going number one overall in
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Speaker 2: the draft. So, you know, don't put a lot of
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Speaker 2: weight in the MOX that you're seeing here in twenty six.
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Speaker 2: But I you know, two and a half is the
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Speaker 2: right number for set to trying to create the separation there,
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Speaker 2: because I've seen MOX with two Buckeyes. I've seen MOX
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Speaker 2: with one Bucky. I've seen MOX with three. I haven't
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Speaker 2: really seen any with four at this point. So you know,
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Speaker 2: in the vast majority have been two to three. You know,
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Speaker 2: I think I think Josh Simmons is pretty safe as
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Speaker 2: being a first rounder. I think a Mecca Buca is
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Speaker 2: pretty safe as being a first rounder. I think then
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Speaker 2: it just kind of comes down to what teams need.
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Speaker 2: It's funny because i've seen Trevion Henderson. I just saw
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Speaker 2: one this morning from football guys. I had Trevian Henderson
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Speaker 2: in the first round. A lot of mocks I've seen
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Speaker 2: have Quinn Shawn Judkins going ahead at triviaan Henderson. So
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Speaker 2: there's just no real consensus out there, you know. With
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Speaker 2: Donathan Jackson, I think there's just some questions on. Oh, well,
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Speaker 2: he can play four positions, but what is his best
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Speaker 2: position and where does his value come in? You know
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Speaker 2: with TYLERK Williams. When Tyleek is on, Tyleek is fantastic,
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Speaker 2: But are you going to be able to get enough
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Speaker 2: ty Leak to equate spending a first round pick on him?
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Speaker 2: I would not be surprised if there were three. But
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Speaker 2: you know, if I'm having to put my money, if
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Speaker 2: i'm if I'm if I'm having to put a couple
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Speaker 2: of black chips on something like that, I'm taking the under.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of where I am. That's that's what I
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Speaker 1: posted on our message board buck Ahead, a message board
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Speaker 1: presented by Jeff Ruby's Columbus, because I think Josh Simmons,
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Speaker 1: as you said, is this your guy. Amcca could be twenty,
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Speaker 1: he could be forty. And then the same with Travion Henderson.
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Speaker 1: I saw just today the Broncos like him. But you know,
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Speaker 1: the Broncos may try to trade up and get Ashton
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Speaker 1: Gent and if they don't do that, then maybe Travion there.
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Speaker 1: But I've also seen I've seen so many mock drafts
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Speaker 1: with Trivia with Maka Buca connected to the Broncos at twenty.
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Speaker 1: So I feel like I'm saying under, but I'm not
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Speaker 1: going to be shocked if those three make it. But again,
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Speaker 1: this is really deep running back draft, so it just
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Speaker 1: depends on what you want, what you need. It's a
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Speaker 1: deep defensive tackle draft in terms of guys that could
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Speaker 1: be late first into the third round. We've seen guys
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Speaker 1: fall for forever almost and watching these things and you
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Speaker 1: never know why. So I'm with you on the under.
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Speaker 1: We'll see if people are laughing at us right now,
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Speaker 1: if they're listening to us or watching this and in
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Speaker 1: the morning after the first round has taken place. Again,
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Speaker 1: we are recording this at twelve forty five on Thursday.
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Speaker 1: Get off our back now, knowing how impossible, how difficult
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Speaker 1: it is to nail down the first rounders the day
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Speaker 1: of the draft, Kevin, I want us to nail down
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Speaker 1: the first rounders for the Buck guys in twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 1: And it's not a big list of names, because even
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Speaker 1: the draft eligible guys on this.
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Speaker 2: Year's team have a lot of names or not.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well, I'm just saying, like the guys who
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Speaker 1: are draft eligible, you got to include like Lincoln Keetles,
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Speaker 1: Brandon Innaes, Bryson, Rodgers, and we're not really getting into
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Speaker 1: any of the offensive lineman, at least I'm not. But
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Speaker 1: you've got nine I have highlighted let's see one, two, three, four, five,
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Speaker 1: And I'm trying to be conservative in this. But also
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Speaker 1: when I think you posted on our board taking Caleb
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Speaker 1: Downs out of the mix, like who's going to be
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Speaker 1: the highest drafted buck guy in twenty twenty six? And
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Speaker 1: one guy I don't even have highlighted here, I posted that,
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Speaker 1: you know, I could maybe throw some money down on
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Speaker 1: Kenyanta Jackson just to see, you know, just as a
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Speaker 1: as a flyer, like a Heisman futures bet.
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Speaker 2: Now I have, I have nine on my list, one
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Speaker 2: of them being Caleb Downs, And I was like, all right,
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Speaker 2: that's enough. You just have to stop right there, you know,
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Speaker 2: because the reality is that we don't know what kind
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Speaker 2: of season some of these guys are going to have.
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Speaker 2: Where do you put bo Atkinson who they just picked
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Speaker 2: up in the portal? I mean, the thing is, after
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Speaker 2: I posted that Caleb Downs thread is safety is all
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Speaker 2: well and good, but it's it's not the Cadillac position
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Speaker 2: of quarterback, cornerback or left tackle, So there really is
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Speaker 2: a chance that somebody could move up, you know, ahead
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Speaker 2: of him. I mean Ohio State goes out and picks
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Speaker 2: up a transfer offensive lineman, and Ethan I have not
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Speaker 2: gotten to the Tuoy Moloile point of his career where
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Speaker 2: I can just let it roll right off odeanwact, you know.
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Speaker 2: I mean he Cadillac position right there. I mean he
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Speaker 2: could sit there and be that guy. I mean, but
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Speaker 2: Carnel Tate sunny styles. I mean, those are the guys
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Speaker 2: on my upper list, and then on the lower list.
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Speaker 2: What happens if IGB has a big year? What happens
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Speaker 2: that Jermaine Matthews has a big year? I have bo Atkinson.
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Speaker 2: Here's another one. What a max player goes out and
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Speaker 2: has the best tight end year of anybody out there?
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Speaker 2: I mean there's somebody else. So yeah, don't you know
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Speaker 2: freezing call takes. Don't take this Kevin Noon predicting nine
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Speaker 2: first round Buckeyes. But there is a list we talked
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Speaker 2: about a team. It's like, oh my god, who's getting
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Speaker 2: play from? How are they gonna field? Eleven aside? And
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Speaker 2: I have nine names listed here as potential first rounders,
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Speaker 2: And I forced myself to stop because I'm like, all
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Speaker 2: right now, we're just kind of getting silly.
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Speaker 1: Right now, we're just listing names. You know, I'll throw
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Speaker 1: one out there, and you mentioned IGB and I can
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Speaker 1: hear people rolling their eyes. Now it's like he's he's
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Speaker 1: got the length and the size that the NFL loves,
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Speaker 1: and if he gets rid of the grabbiness, we'll see.
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Speaker 1: Like it felt for a while, like while Carrie Cobs
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Speaker 1: was here for a while, it's just like, well, if
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Speaker 1: you started at Ohio State at quarter, you're probably a
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Speaker 1: first round pick, and that's not been the case for
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Speaker 1: a while. And in fact, even if you are a
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Speaker 1: first round pick, that doesn't mean you're guaranteed to get
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Speaker 1: a second contract. So the assumptions of just a year
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Speaker 1: first round or Denzel Burke was a four year starter,
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Speaker 1: he's not going to be a first round pick. So
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Speaker 1: we'll see if IGB can start the back up or
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Speaker 1: Jermaine Matthews. Jermaine Matthews doesn't have the size that Igbinosen does,
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Speaker 1: but I think he's a possibility. But again, you've also
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna be in the late first round or
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Speaker 1: if that's if that's your ceiling is a late first round,
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Speaker 1: but you could also end up being a third rounder.
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Speaker 1: That's one of those things that brings you back for
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Speaker 1: a senior year where you can definitely be a top
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Speaker 1: fifteen or top twenty pick.
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Speaker 2: So some of these.
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Speaker 1: Guys are going to fall into that. But in terms
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Speaker 1: of the highest drafted player, and I did have, I
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Speaker 1: had a talked with an NFL scout that I know
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Speaker 1: after Downs's freshman year, during during his transfer to Ohio State.
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Speaker 1: So if he came out right now, he'd be a
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Speaker 1: top ten pick. And but this is the guy who
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Speaker 1: loves safeties, so take that with a grain of salt.
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Speaker 1: But everybody loves Caleb Downs. I I feel like he's
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Speaker 1: the premier name, but is the premier premier name always,
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Speaker 1: He's not necessarily the first guy picked because it's not
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Speaker 1: a premier position. As you said, I don't have ethan
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Speaker 1: oneonwa as one of my bolded I've got him. I've
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Speaker 1: got like fifteen or sixteen names, but I've only got
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Speaker 1: a few bolded because we don't know yet. But if
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Speaker 1: he turns into Josh Simmons and he's you know, then
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Speaker 1: he's there's a possibility there. But I think I think
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Speaker 1: we could go with Caleb Downs is perhaps the highest drafted,
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Speaker 1: but anybody else in there, Like, what about a Sunny
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Speaker 1: Styles where he's got all the athletic uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: markers that you need and he'll he'll show out at
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Speaker 1: Pro Day and at the Combine and this will be
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Speaker 1: his second year as a linebacker to move move up.
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Speaker 1: But again, linebacker is not a position that necessarily goes high.
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Speaker 2: Either, and that's and that's the issue. I mean, and
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Speaker 2: what is he? What is he in a three four scheme?
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Speaker 2: You know, you got to sit there, and I mean
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Speaker 2: there's some players that work better in a four to
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Speaker 2: three and don't really work as well as three four
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Speaker 2: and vice versa and every and everything else. So you know,
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Speaker 2: that's you know, that's why I have Carnell Tate in
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Speaker 2: my upper list, just because you know, he is a
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Speaker 2: receiver and we know what he is and and there's
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Speaker 2: not a lot of you know, there's not a lot
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Speaker 2: of determinations of you know, how does he fit in
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Speaker 2: this scheme and how does he fit in that scheme?
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Speaker 2: You know, go out there and run your routes and
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Speaker 2: get open and score touchdowns at that point, but you know,
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Speaker 2: Sunny Styles very intrigue. You know, I I could see
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Speaker 2: a case of him having a little bit of like
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Speaker 2: a Baron Browning type of situation. I'm not saying that
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Speaker 2: you're going to slide Sunny Styles all the way down
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Speaker 2: to the line of scrimmage, though I have made that
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Speaker 2: argument before. At some points, is there going to be
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Speaker 2: a point of where he does get to the league
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Speaker 2: or win he gets to the league and they unlock
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Speaker 2: they unlock the potential and it's like, what the hell
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Speaker 2: were they doing with him at Ohio State?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, is he a three four outside linebacker or you know,
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Speaker 1: you know something like that that he does allow for
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Speaker 1: more pass rushing, And you know, how how do teams
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Speaker 1: view him? Because just as an inside linebacker, you're looking
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Speaker 1: at like the top guys in this draft or borderline
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Speaker 1: first rounders, you know, second round kind of guys. And
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Speaker 1: that's just kind of the nature of the business inside linebacker. Now,
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Speaker 1: if you're you know, like all these Alabama outside linebackers
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Speaker 1: that always go in the top ten, like Will Anderson
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Speaker 1: and Dallas Turner, whatever, if you're the same size as
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Speaker 1: Sunny Styles, but they don't play the same position. Now,
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Speaker 1: if that's something that somebody would view Sonny styles as that,
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Speaker 1: but it's hard to draft him that high when you
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Speaker 1: haven't seen it, So that would be kind of a
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Speaker 1: projection with Tate. With Colonel Tate, yeah, he's the one
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Speaker 1: that I have bolded on the offense. He's like the
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Speaker 1: only one because I still want to see what Ethan
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Speaker 1: one Onoo does. I don't want to get into the
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Speaker 1: assumption like we did with what he used to do
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Speaker 1: with corners. Well, of course he's a first rounder. He started,
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Speaker 1: but we receivers. That's kinda you know, if if you
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Speaker 1: start for a couple of years and you don't transfer
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Speaker 1: to Penn State, then you probably could end up a
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Speaker 1: first rounder at Ohio State. And yet you know this
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Speaker 1: is again Cardonel Tate's is gonna be a junior so
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Speaker 1: he doesn't have to go, but just kind of feels
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Speaker 1: like he's got it, like he's gonna he's gonna put
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Speaker 1: up a thousand yards. That's the plan. And the reason
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Speaker 1: Beccabuka didn't leave after his junior year was because of injury.
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Speaker 1: So as long as Cardinal Tate stays healthy, does what
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Speaker 1: he's expected to do, I would expect him to be
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Speaker 1: a first.
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Speaker 2: Rounder next year. Yeah, and you know, once you're first rounder,
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Speaker 2: Oh well I'm back and be a top ten player
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Speaker 2: or whatever. I mean, yes, I understand. We're in a
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Speaker 2: very different world now with NIL, and you're gonna be
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Speaker 2: taking care of it. You're gonna probably make a couple
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Speaker 2: of million dollars or whatever through NIL and everything else,
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Speaker 2: or you could just start earning and starting working your
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Speaker 2: way toward that second contract. And that second contract. You know,
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Speaker 2: two of us four guys here are talking about this.
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Speaker 2: But that second contracts where you really get generational wealth.
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Speaker 2: I mean as opposed to the key contract. Where as
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Speaker 2: a first rounder there's the fifth year option, team option.
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Speaker 2: You're doing okay on that contract, but that second contract
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Speaker 2: is you know, the is the Brakes truck.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like your first contract, you're gonna burn through that
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Speaker 1: twenty five million in a year tops like, so to
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Speaker 1: be able to get that the second contract where you
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Speaker 1: can make sixty to you know, by the time these
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Speaker 1: guys are making their second contract, the rates for receivers
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Speaker 1: are probably gonna be like forty five million dollars a
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Speaker 1: year for the top guys, you know, which is good
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Speaker 1: business if you can.
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Speaker 2: Find it might be thirty five bucks for a dozen eggs.
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Speaker 1: That's true anybody, because like Rvel Reese is a guy
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Speaker 1: who's a junior this year who could but again, he
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Speaker 1: plays inside linebackers.
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Speaker 2: So what is that I mean?
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Speaker 1: I think I mentioned Kayden McDonald. If he blows up,
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Speaker 1: this is a defensive tackle, So that's always going to
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Speaker 1: be a prime position. This is gonna be his big opportunity.
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Speaker 1: He's going to be playing a ton and so if
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Speaker 1: he he lights it up, which High State wants to
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Speaker 1: see him play really well, but if he plays too well,
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Speaker 1: then the buck guys are going to have a problem
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I know, that's always the thing. And that's something
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Speaker 2: that we talked about, maybe more on the basketball side
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Speaker 2: of things. That kind of led to the downfall of
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Speaker 2: Chris Foltman was that he would bring in somebody who
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Speaker 2: would just play too well and then leave, and he
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Speaker 2: never was able to stack teams the right way. But
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Speaker 2: you know, this isn't you know, this is another basketball show,
17:29
Speaker 2: so I won't get too deep into that one. But yeah,
17:32
Speaker 2: if Kiden McDonald comes out and has a just a
17:34
Speaker 2: tremendous year and the people want to sit there and
17:38
Speaker 2: you know, well, they're all defensive lineman. Well, you put
17:40
Speaker 2: as a one tech, you're putting up some different types
17:42
Speaker 2: of numbers than you would be as as an edge.
17:45
Speaker 2: So you know, let's not you know, let's not say
17:47
Speaker 2: well he has to have x amount of sacks or whatever.
17:49
Speaker 2: That's just not exactly the moo. That's not you know,
17:52
Speaker 2: that's not what is you know, what he's set up
17:55
Speaker 2: to do. But yeah, if he has a big year,
17:57
Speaker 2: then the Ohio State is once again searching for D tackles,
18:02
Speaker 2: and especially if Ohio State ever wants to consider going
18:05
Speaker 2: to a three to four, you've got to have you know,
18:08
Speaker 2: you got to have that big nose tackle. And you know,
18:11
Speaker 2: we're five seven years away from just saying Ohio State
18:13
Speaker 2: struggling to find D tackles. Now you know those tackles,
18:17
Speaker 2: you know now now you're looking for like a golden
18:20
Speaker 2: needle in a haystack. It's it's that much more difficult
18:23
Speaker 2: defensive ends.
18:24
Speaker 1: So they're five defensive ends next year, are all going
18:26
Speaker 1: to be this year, are all going to be there
18:28
Speaker 1: in their fourth year. Capen Curry and c. J. Hicks
18:30
Speaker 1: are the only true seniors. Everybody else has a readier year.
18:33
Speaker 1: So all four all five of those guys are gonna
18:36
Speaker 1: be draft eligible. Who will see who plays well enough?
18:39
Speaker 1: If I set the over under at two and a
18:41
Speaker 1: half first rounders again for next year, considering Caleb Downs,
18:45
Speaker 1: is a likely that that's that's an easy one. That's
18:47
Speaker 1: the free space. But if I set it at two
18:49
Speaker 1: and a half again next year, are you going over
18:52
Speaker 1: or under?
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Speaker 2: Because smart money, this smart money would be saying the under.
19:02
Speaker 2: You know, there are thirty two first round picks periods,
19:06
Speaker 2: it doesn't change, there's no floating or anything like that.
19:10
Speaker 2: It's not like the number of five stars out there.
19:12
Speaker 2: Oh well, we could have thirty six five stars this
19:14
Speaker 2: year and thirty eight the next year. It's thirty two.
19:17
Speaker 2: It is a finite number. Picking the over means that
19:19
Speaker 2: you're saying that, essentially you're closing in on ten percent
19:23
Speaker 2: of the field is going to be Ohio State players
19:26
Speaker 2: looking at the list and everything else, and if this
19:28
Speaker 2: team is as good as I think it's going to be.
19:30
Speaker 2: And again, team success and players success are not always
19:33
Speaker 2: necessarily hand in hand. Give me the over, give me
19:37
Speaker 2: the over. I think that is a foolish decision, but
19:41
Speaker 2: we make foolish decisions all the time. On Tom's show
19:44
Speaker 2: because they can't pin it back on us.
19:47
Speaker 1: Right, and nobody's going to remember this in the year
19:48
Speaker 1: unless we bring it back up repeatedly, over and over again.
19:51
Speaker 1: But the thing is, like, if we're just assuming, if
19:55
Speaker 1: we are understanding that Caleb Downs is the first rounder
19:58
Speaker 1: and Carnel Tay is a first rounder, to think that
20:02
Speaker 1: nobody else is gonna step up or jump up and
20:04
Speaker 1: make it is, maybe that's kind of under selling or
20:08
Speaker 1: underestimating what should be a pretty darn good team. So
20:11
Speaker 1: there you go under this year over next year. Let
20:17
Speaker 1: Kevin know either way whether he's right or wrong, and
20:20
Speaker 1: that you appreciate his input.
20:22
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20:28
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20:30
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20:38
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