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SEASON 2 BONUS EPISODE_DA CREW PODCAST_HOST SHANETTE W JOHNSON · DA CREW Podcast

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Speaker 7: You.
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Speaker 6: Garcia was shot in cold blood in the office of
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Speaker 6: his home healthcare business. Shortly after Garcia was killed, thirty
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Speaker 6: seven year old James Legate the scene, fleeing the scene
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Speaker 6: was arrested for the murder. Lagate is not making this
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Speaker 6: investigation any easier. He's behind bars here, unable to post
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Speaker 6: a half million dollars bond and refusing to.
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Speaker 2: Talk any weed. I made it halfway through the week
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Speaker 2: and so now we're back with our bonuses. So before
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Speaker 2: I start, I would like to issue a disclaimer real quick,
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Speaker 2: before we get started. I have my co host is
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Speaker 2: here with me, so let me just go ahead and
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Speaker 2: do our disclaimer real quick so we can get back
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Speaker 2: to get get started. Before we get started, the contents
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Speaker 2: of this show, it is not a reflection on the crew.
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Speaker 2: It's not a reflection of the coup pop past. My
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Speaker 2: platform is to give the individual that's incarcerated or not
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Speaker 2: incarcerated a platform to speak out, to use this their
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Speaker 2: voice on their behalf. So with that being said, I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna give you a little back backstory. Please forgive me tonight.
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Speaker 2: I'm just having a little anxiety attack and I'm getting
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Speaker 2: over it right now. So the backstory is that mister
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Speaker 2: Legate was accused of shooting and killing someone and so
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Speaker 2: he's here tonight to finish his to finish his story
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Speaker 2: right now, I'm gonna bring my co host on because
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Speaker 2: I need to settle down just a little cornell Or
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Speaker 2: Are you there.
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Speaker 7: Yes, ma'am. Thank you very much, ma'am for having me on.
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Speaker 7: And with that being said, ma'am, I would like to
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Speaker 7: go here and to recap on the case of mister
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Speaker 7: James and mcgate today. As I Collor just said, mister Legate,
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Speaker 7: he's a technic president making room per twenty five years
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Speaker 7: behind boss for a crime that he said he did
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Speaker 7: not commit. From September the third of nineteen ninety eight,
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Speaker 7: San Antonio, Yoba County, Texas. Okay, it was rock father
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Speaker 7: brutal murder of a local businessman named mister Eddie Garcia,
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Speaker 7: who had made a name for himself as the Dingo Teams.
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Speaker 7: As the owner of the Mexico Q nightclub he shared
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Speaker 7: with his partner mister Petro Okay, mister Garcia was found
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Speaker 7: dead in his office from a gunshot. Roun Okay. Mister
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Speaker 7: Garcia has alleged that mister Edis and Morra was giving
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Speaker 7: out free drinks and three passes that caused conflict between
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Speaker 7: mister Mora and mister Garcia. Mister Garcia has then planned
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Speaker 7: a meeting with mister Tomorrow and other individuals to try
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Speaker 7: and get mister mister to Morrow out of business, but
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Speaker 7: before he could do that, he was found dead in
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Speaker 7: his office from a gunshot. Mister James Legate became a
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Speaker 7: suspect to the office while because ours before the incident occurred,
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Speaker 7: mister Legate was seen hitting in uh the building you
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Speaker 7: know where the shooting occurred, and he was sitting there
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Speaker 7: for hours and because of the issue of being there
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Speaker 7: for hours, he looked at suspicious and then after leaving
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Speaker 7: the place of business, he went next door to a
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Speaker 7: club cover of the Players Club whatever and shots rained out.
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Speaker 7: Mister Legate came running from was seen running from the
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Speaker 7: office of mister Garcia and he ran to was seen
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Speaker 7: running to another in the location where he was apprehendive
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Speaker 7: our fore. So today mister Legate is going to be
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Speaker 7: coming in to try to explain his position and just
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Speaker 7: scenario to prove this innocent. So with that, man said,
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Speaker 7: I would like to turn this back over to my
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Speaker 7: Cohurst and said that any more questions that you know,
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Speaker 7: she would like to prevent to add to the scenario,
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Speaker 7: h missus Sinnette.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm here, I'm I'm settled down, and I'm ready
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Speaker 2: to talk. So I'm face to bring mister Legate up.
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Speaker 2: He's joining us. He's currently incarcerated in Texas for over
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Speaker 2: the last two decades. Mister James Legate.
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Speaker 7: Thank you best, Josh, thank you Cardell, thank you for
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Speaker 7: having me. I'm good, I'm glad to be here, and
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Speaker 7: I'm here to answer any questions and hopefully to share
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Speaker 7: some light on the truth of this conviction that I've
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Speaker 7: been wrong with the pus of doing so whichever I
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Speaker 7: want you to want to do. I want to want
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Speaker 7: to be clear though the Burgers at at it called
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Speaker 7: Dependable Hotel chare which is life picks you up, Players
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Speaker 7: night club that players nightclub. You should be Texas Jams
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Speaker 7: and Texas jams was in nineteen ninety six. They started
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Speaker 7: they started making uh construction, They started construction colony depend
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Speaker 7: multiple care, which I explained play turneys that explaning everybody,
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Speaker 7: and they say they had like a drawl in the
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Speaker 7: sketch of the actual plate order the ship was supposed
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Speaker 7: to take plates. And I told my turn what I
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Speaker 7: was you to drop up like that? When I knew
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Speaker 7: exactly where it was that, I said, if you go
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Speaker 7: down to the DMV to get the get there. The
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Speaker 7: construction was that on one day actually got their first tournament.
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Speaker 7: It was around nineteen ninety six, so I knew that
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Speaker 7: place existed before anything, and unfortunately it didn't happen. While
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Speaker 7: I was looking for a woman by the name of
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Speaker 7: a Primatics and I was just in at the club,
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Speaker 7: they's going away over each got book and uh, but
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Speaker 7: that never had to win. After that's what I decided
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Speaker 7: to walk to the store and see if I can
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Speaker 7: talk to somebody there because it is the business. So
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Speaker 7: I figured there's a carriage and all wait to dinner
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Speaker 7: until like uh, being h the gentleman that is like
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Speaker 7: a form but it wasn't a book and asked me
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Speaker 7: the way that made me to Eolf the just work.
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Speaker 7: Everything just turned loose in that. Man. Here, I am
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Speaker 7: going on twenty six years now for murder fit.
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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so now let's get into it. So the briefcase.
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Speaker 7: Uh.
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Speaker 2: I looked at the documentary again, I believe is part
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Speaker 2: two of the documentary, and they put so much emphasis
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Speaker 2: on the briefcase that you took the briefcase and discarded
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Speaker 2: it somewhere else now looking at the looking at the documentary,
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Speaker 2: I didn't know us that they seen you running with
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Speaker 2: a briefcase that I can recall. And when I looked
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Speaker 2: at the papers that was on the ground on the
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Speaker 2: floor in the office, they don't look like you, like
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Speaker 2: the like you through through your the briefcase up. It
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Speaker 2: looked like they was actually placed. That's what it looked
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Speaker 2: like to me. Did your defense attorney ever raised anything
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Speaker 2: about the the way the papers was positioned in the
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Speaker 2: in the office? And also did did they did you
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Speaker 2: was it a did any witnesses come forth to say
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Speaker 2: that they actually seen you running with the briefcase?
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Speaker 7: Uh? In fact, if my attorney's never raised anything about
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Speaker 7: the content, the only thing they raised it say, look,
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Speaker 7: you had my copy of my drivers, like the dealership,
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Speaker 7: tags and the company I worked for, my my uh
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Speaker 7: business card, everything that did identify and they're saying, like
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Speaker 7: my thirty pintal who's going to take all of his
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Speaker 7: business stuff to do it? Of course the stage, he said,
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Speaker 7: well you got you heard a crazy uh uh uh criminals, right,
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Speaker 7: he said, he's wonderful. That's actually how they actually put
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Speaker 7: it to that, to that uh that thing and now
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Speaker 7: uh there was no actual impatient placed on that. And
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Speaker 7: then there was a witness by the name of I
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Speaker 7: try to look at at the bico if that name
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Speaker 7: was the Vidia. He was on the phone right at
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Speaker 7: the corner of the bar for the for the parking
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Speaker 7: lot set for a parking lot begins. He did it
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Speaker 7: to person and wife, but straight across the park and
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Speaker 7: that's the street. Anything. I couldn't tell anything in what
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Speaker 7: the mother is because woman, how can you not see
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Speaker 7: a man to be doing it with a free page?
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Speaker 7: You know, It's like he said, they was up to
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Speaker 7: the chin or or you know, he couldn't have his
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Speaker 7: arms and running with it like a football, you know,
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Speaker 7: but none of that was that he couldn't he couldn't see,
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Speaker 7: he couldn't tell nobody that I had anything in my hand.
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Speaker 7: And also you know they said.
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Speaker 2: What they said that this was the easiest case because
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Speaker 2: once they went through your car or what because your
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Speaker 2: car was left unseen. Once they went through your car,
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Speaker 2: they said that you had been writing down license plate
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Speaker 2: numbers and like you've been surveillance. The place you said
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Speaker 2: it that you was in your mind of business was repossession,
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Speaker 2: that you was repossessing the car, right, But.
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Speaker 7: I did it. I worked for a Beta Double Finance
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Speaker 7: was what they broker that used several different finance companies
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Speaker 7: to try to re establish credit for certain individuals who
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Speaker 7: had defaults in on their house or you know, just
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Speaker 7: back credit period. So what happened was while I was there,
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Speaker 7: I was just voted over two years, I began to
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Speaker 7: represents together and collect agency of the office. So what
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Speaker 7: I did is not only for my boss, but but
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Speaker 7: for other companies like road sports cars or the mother
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Speaker 7: was that might say, hey, you cad, you can find
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Speaker 7: the beautiful for me. So what I did, I did
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Speaker 7: like any other money hunter, which I did, then they
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Speaker 7: go to they will hurt. So I hunt down these vehicles.
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Speaker 7: And what I did is I used Springer tolding, which
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Speaker 7: I told my turn, why don't you subpea of them
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Speaker 7: so that they can't give verification of this fact. But
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Speaker 7: they never did that. So me personally doing the repossession,
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Speaker 7: I never personally disgusted. What I did is I just
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Speaker 7: turned the vehicle down. I called the kor and uh
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Speaker 7: and I reported them. So that's that's the whole.
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Speaker 2: And you know, it was kind of interesting how when
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Speaker 2: they was laying out the the paperwork that they found
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Speaker 2: and they caught in your car. You know, you can
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Speaker 2: look at it and tell that you wasn't really like
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Speaker 2: they claim, scoping out somebody place of business because you
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Speaker 2: had different license plate numbers on this, on this, on
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Speaker 2: this paper. And then to go back into the bar.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: The way they say that you was like constantly looking
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Speaker 2: out the window. You was up, you was down looking
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Speaker 2: out the window and stuff like you was pasting a
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Speaker 2: place to me, listening to what you said and looking
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Speaker 2: at the doctor, listening to the documentary. You was basically
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Speaker 2: doing what the report man do, because that's what actually
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Speaker 2: a repossessing person really do. They they hunt, they looking
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Speaker 2: for they looking for that car, They looking for the car,
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Speaker 2: and they have they have everything that you had in
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Speaker 2: your car. They have the license plate numbers of the
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Speaker 2: cars they sitting the same exact thing. But you know,
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Speaker 2: they was some of them they're sitting in court. You know,
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Speaker 2: they're in they toll trucks. But you know, to me,
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Speaker 2: I just looked at it like that was like, you know, comparing.
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Speaker 7: What I see with the.
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Speaker 2: The repossessing people that that be out and about. You know,
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Speaker 2: I compared that together my co hosts. I know he
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Speaker 2: want to jump in Cornell, you have any questions.
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Speaker 7: Uh, yes, ma'am, I would like to go back to
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Speaker 7: the breecase. Okay, Okay, you pointed out just the fact
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Speaker 7: that you know, a lot of the paperwork that was
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Speaker 7: found in the office. You know that the contest from
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Speaker 7: mister Legate's briefcase was like, you know, systematically placed on
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Speaker 7: the floor. Okay, and if they were not scattered out
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Speaker 7: like a thisif where mister Legate had pointed out that
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Speaker 7: mister Garfield had slipped the table over, you know. So
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Speaker 7: now the question is, you know, how did the briefcase
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Speaker 7: just come automatically top open and the paperwork was placed
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Speaker 7: you know, on the floor like that. Anyway, my point
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Speaker 7: is that a boss tend to seen mister Gate train
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Speaker 7: that he thought mister the gate runner from the office builder. Okay,
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Speaker 7: he did not say anything about saying a briefcase. Okay.
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Speaker 7: So now other witnesses, whether or not they came forward
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Speaker 7: or not, don't nobody say that they saw mister Legate
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Speaker 7: with a bree case. So now this is the state
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Speaker 7: sntested issue in this case, the Queen case, because next
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Speaker 7: to the breecase is the weapon. It has been satisfied
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Speaker 7: and concluded it by the Bear County Ballistic decision had
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Speaker 7: been the murder weapon. Now this is being cooperated at
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Speaker 7: by the testimony of mister Warren Jesse Hernandez from Tweens
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Speaker 7: to have him and mister Legate a gun. With that
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Speaker 7: being said, the case is based upon that piece of
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Speaker 7: evidence right there, the suitcase. The paper was on the
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Speaker 7: floor of the gun and you know, mister Legates. So
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Speaker 7: my question is this, did your lawyer and him request
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Speaker 7: for finger prints to be consecutive on the briefcase, because
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Speaker 7: if you never removed the briefcase from the office, somebody
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Speaker 7: else did and it had to be fingerprints on the preecase.
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Speaker 7: If they was not using gloves to try and take
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Speaker 7: the breecase and place it elsewhere, what the gun was found.
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Speaker 7: Did your lawyer him ever even bringing up a fingerprint?
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Speaker 7: Ex fernt uh request the ballistic that anybody only go behind?
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Speaker 7: Well the only one that actually testified with the ballistics
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Speaker 7: for which said, uh, that Becker human the firearms sixer
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Speaker 7: who said that was to go excuse but uh, they
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Speaker 7: didn't say that there was a bickerprints taken. Well, they
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Speaker 7: justed for furnit. There was nothing found on the done
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Speaker 7: it still the gun in the bullet. They never said
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Speaker 7: anything about the PA you know that. I think they figured,
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Speaker 7: well it's funded, it probably gonna have talk about But
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Speaker 7: is there anybody else's print? Well, then I can't tell
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Speaker 7: you because that's never been brought up. Oh no, as
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Speaker 7: you should. Nobody shame me with the briefiach because I
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Speaker 7: never took my briecap with me that I told I
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Speaker 7: know I wanted to. I thought, oh my petenify uh
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Speaker 7: identification in there? That could leave everything to that to me,
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Speaker 7: I never find the power for or these people say
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Speaker 7: no I he goes to the office, I go to THEE.
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Speaker 7: I said, M yeah, I wasn't think I'm looking for
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Speaker 7: the perfect management. But she wants get there now. In
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Speaker 7: my file. What I found was because they give me
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Speaker 7: the file on the person, the car and everything that
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Speaker 7: I'm looking for. That Powell was missing. That whole file
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Speaker 7: was missing. And I came up to my turn that
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Speaker 7: Powel should be in my my free pat they should
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Speaker 7: have been with all their papers, because well they should
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Speaker 7: he sutting in there now. Before I even went to
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Speaker 7: uh the home healthcare, before I even thought about that,
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Speaker 7: I used to go to miss Bat's home like this,
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Speaker 7: boys there in my shirts and uh she hud to
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Speaker 7: the little supper found that way and I used to
21:42
Speaker 7: sit there. I used to go at three o'clock in
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Speaker 7: the morning, go out there and she might get here.
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Speaker 7: Nothing nothing. I never saw her car arrive. If I
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Speaker 7: never seen anything, I tell my different times of the day,
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Speaker 7: different times of the night. I never heard see anything
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Speaker 7: at all about about uh uh her car and my kid.
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Speaker 7: This is what what what? Maybe say? Well, okay, if
22:03
Speaker 7: I can't find her at home, maybe I can find
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Speaker 7: her at work. This is why I want that ball
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Speaker 7: into the hokonhealth Care Center. And uh, but that never happened.
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Speaker 7: I never did hear. Now. I did want to some
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Speaker 7: people another car dealer her name with delhide who actually
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Speaker 7: there's a there's a stop to go across the street.
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Speaker 7: I'm coming up to the joint and he says, hey, Jane,
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Speaker 7: what are you doing here? You know? And I said, Oh,
22:27
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be for a better and patic and id
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Speaker 7: you gotta take critics? Say, well, yeah, you bili point
22:35
Speaker 7: he can be walking on his car. He goes, if
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Speaker 7: you pint her, you might be able to find out
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Speaker 7: what if you want the job, come to jobs, can
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Speaker 7: get the paperwork. Of course I never got to get
22:44
Speaker 7: pay work because I can bout us getting arrested. But
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Speaker 7: uh uh. Other than that, there was nothing about the gun,
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Speaker 7: any kind of fingerprints or any test being done on
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Speaker 7: the on the brecase.
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Speaker 2: Okay, right about what about did they text you for
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Speaker 2: a gun residue? Was it any gun residue found on
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Speaker 2: your hand, hands on your clothing or anything.
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Speaker 7: No? No, And hey and this is this is wasn't
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Speaker 7: so great because maybe they take twenty minutes to get
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Speaker 7: you where I was that it's just like maybe five
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Speaker 7: minutes or something that they had me out there and
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Speaker 7: they they to frustrate you into the station, and which
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Speaker 7: was a flighting to me because I thought it was
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Speaker 7: a ticket and then they've done it solve in my hands,
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Speaker 7: taking my clothes. But I found kind of odd. I said,
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Speaker 7: why y'all doing this? If I'm going to hear predicts, no,
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Speaker 7: where's gonna talk to you later. But as the result
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Speaker 7: came back, which I've never seen them results on in
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Speaker 7: the tenness results. But in a third court they rented
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Speaker 7: out someone's don't mention the prison problem with the stuff
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Speaker 7: for right hand. And finally when I got the report,
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Speaker 7: I saw it they put you know, uh, they've got
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Speaker 7: a pariod that says, uh, it is not It can
23:55
Speaker 7: determine if if you're selling fired. The listening was the
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Speaker 7: proximity on what the creasurge or hands of the discharge weapon.
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Speaker 7: This is what gave the prosecutor the leeway to say, well,
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Speaker 7: interesting matters. There's no Dutch chet powder right there there,
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Speaker 7: you know, wet the day. But in nineteen ninety nine
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Speaker 7: the gunshot residue cat for a tour to sleep raw
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Speaker 7: which which contradicted everything. The detective he don't want actually
24:22
Speaker 7: saying that their tests were more accurate so so there
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Speaker 7: was no touch of residence on hand. He got a
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Speaker 7: free member. This was a those thirty eight that they
24:31
Speaker 7: said that I fired and was supposed to be I
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Speaker 7: had five pay So was it shot five times? I
24:38
Speaker 7: don't even the pen even come up. There was five
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Speaker 7: appreciation and the man was hiding the defense buck here
24:44
Speaker 7: was hit twice. One of the children wanted the one
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Speaker 7: and the I mean one of the hardest one on
24:50
Speaker 7: the wall. And I don't know what happened to hate,
24:53
Speaker 7: but I said there was five. So if even it's
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Speaker 7: three or shot and hell canty the fall of those
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Speaker 7: thirty eight revolver, you're gonna have a lot of blowbacks
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Speaker 7: from the gun powder residues. It doesn't have a lot
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Speaker 7: of bow back. And for me not to even have
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Speaker 7: one or one little uh of the ship of a
25:19
Speaker 7: gunshot residues shows that I've never fired a gun. So
25:24
Speaker 7: that's that?
25:26
Speaker 2: Can I that?
25:26
Speaker 7: Can I try that? Mister Legate, How is the establishment made?
25:31
Speaker 7: Because the bartender said that he saw you run from
25:34
Speaker 7: the office, right, So is it a back door to
25:37
Speaker 7: Mster god Saad's office. Because if it's not a back
25:40
Speaker 7: door to mister gard Sail's office, always the logically possible
25:44
Speaker 7: that fire shots were fired from a gun and the
25:47
Speaker 7: bartender don't see nobody but you coming from the office.
25:51
Speaker 7: It has to be somebody else there in honor for
25:55
Speaker 7: a five shot to be fired because you weren't remember
25:59
Speaker 7: you said you were immediately after the third shot was fire,
26:03
Speaker 7: we four more shots were fired. Then it's obvious that
26:06
Speaker 7: the bo had to know that you was already and
26:09
Speaker 7: shots were still being fired. That's my first question. My
26:13
Speaker 7: second question is this the ballistic, not the ballistic, but
26:17
Speaker 7: the property form on the gun that don't want use
26:20
Speaker 7: him ever even checked to see where the gun comes from,
26:24
Speaker 7: the Sillier number on the gun, whether or not it
26:26
Speaker 7: was stolen, whether or not it was ready to somebody,
26:29
Speaker 7: whether or not because the gun is the contested issue
26:32
Speaker 7: in your case. Wow, because they saying that it's the
26:35
Speaker 7: murder with her, I have about that. So when you
26:40
Speaker 7: do get a tence to come back, as you made
26:42
Speaker 7: any attempts to request for access to the property tag
26:47
Speaker 7: on the gun and that so what happened to that information?
26:50
Speaker 7: So your phone from the cut off when you come
26:53
Speaker 7: back to have to go to.
26:54
Speaker 2: Question Okay, and we're going to take a break right
26:58
Speaker 2: We're gonna take a quick break right now until mister
27:01
Speaker 2: mcgate get back with us.
27:05
Speaker 1: The polar had hung on.
27:13
Speaker 4: James Legate at the time was a person who repossessed cars.
27:19
Speaker 4: James Legate was in the area of the Player's bar
27:22
Speaker 4: in Ednie Garcia's office because he was trying to repossess
27:26
Speaker 4: a car belonging to Maryland Maddox. He knew Maryland Maddox
27:31
Speaker 4: had worked for a home healthcare agency, but he didn't
27:35
Speaker 4: know whose home health care agency. That day he had
27:40
Speaker 4: gone to Players, and while he was in the bar,
27:44
Speaker 4: he'd started thinking about the home healthcare which was next door,
27:48
Speaker 4: and he started thinking about going over there to inquire
27:50
Speaker 4: about whether Maryland Maddox had ever worked there.
27:54
Speaker 8: James Legate in nineteen ninety eight was a small lot
27:58
Speaker 8: car salesman. Several hours before the shooting, there was a
28:02
Speaker 8: bar next door to mister Garcia's office that was opened
28:06
Speaker 8: during the day, and James Legate was observed by several
28:10
Speaker 8: witnesses being in that bar for several hours, sitting by
28:15
Speaker 8: the window, looking out one of the windows out towards
28:18
Speaker 8: the front porch area, where he would have had the
28:22
Speaker 8: opportunity to see the comings and goings of the bar
28:25
Speaker 8: in the office next door. Well, he arrived at Players
28:33
Speaker 8: and it stood at he stood out.
28:35
Speaker 7: Because he was there before people normally go to bars
28:39
Speaker 7: and start drinking.
28:40
Speaker 4: He got there early and he drank for hours.
28:43
Speaker 5: He made quite an impression as the sole patron of
28:47
Speaker 5: this bar.
28:49
Speaker 4: The bar made she remembered him distinctly, and the way
28:53
Speaker 4: he would keep getting up to look out the window
28:56
Speaker 4: and acting in a nervous fashion.
29:06
Speaker 2: Well, we're back, and mister Legate has not called us
29:11
Speaker 2: back yet. Maybe he's trying, probably trying to call us back,
29:16
Speaker 2: but I still have my co host with me. Cornell, Well, yes, clam.
29:21
Speaker 7: Yes, plam. So the issue now was that she was
29:24
Speaker 7: not going to mean the suspicions of him sitting in
29:26
Speaker 7: the ball and suffice. But I guess you that's being
29:28
Speaker 7: raised of him being the sole of the establishment. And
29:32
Speaker 7: now the issue is you know whether or not missing
29:35
Speaker 7: legators get as a crime, because it seems obvious that
29:38
Speaker 7: there's too many questions that needs to be answered that
29:41
Speaker 7: are not being answered in this case the gun of
29:44
Speaker 7: the murder weapon, because the lawyer them should have followed
29:46
Speaker 7: requests the Act for the Consilian of Records to come
29:50
Speaker 7: and determined it whether or not that gun was either
29:53
Speaker 7: in the poverty room before it was released, or is
29:55
Speaker 7: it the murder weapon that it whatever test fire and
29:58
Speaker 7: all of these things should have been probably now mind yourself,
30:01
Speaker 7: there no gunpowder of residue on mister Legate. Nowhere, I'm
30:04
Speaker 7: clothing on mister Legate's hands. So therefore that might showed
30:08
Speaker 7: that he did not fire a weapon because he was
30:12
Speaker 7: automitically come unless him and I don't know from the
30:15
Speaker 7: time of the incident. You cannot write gunshots res do
30:19
Speaker 7: offer you within that timeframe because it don't come off
30:22
Speaker 7: like that, ma'am. So because of the fact that this
30:25
Speaker 7: man was not found to have any gunpowder of residue
30:28
Speaker 7: on him, that means that mister Legate did not fire
30:32
Speaker 7: a weapon that called the death of the victim. That's
30:35
Speaker 7: point rank to be noted. So not only that the
30:38
Speaker 7: issue of the briefcase, nobody saw mister Lagate run from
30:41
Speaker 7: the establishment with a breecase. Nobody the state never even
30:45
Speaker 7: pointed that ouse to nobody, and nobody contradicted it the
30:48
Speaker 7: fact that he did. So the point manion that Howard
30:52
Speaker 7: and logic be posible that the brefcase was found around
30:55
Speaker 7: the corner next to a Bason fielding with a gun
30:58
Speaker 7: next to the briefcase.
31:00
Speaker 2: Turn that call from and then what I was trying
31:06
Speaker 2: that was to me recorded and it's subject to monitoring.
31:12
Speaker 2: That's that's recall.
31:14
Speaker 7: Thank you.
31:15
Speaker 2: That's your conversation now, mister okay, So dud are you
31:25
Speaker 2: ready to the two questions that Cornell.
31:31
Speaker 7: Yeh, yes, did you need him to.
31:35
Speaker 2: Repeat af or no?
31:37
Speaker 7: No? No, here's the question about the gun, about it
31:41
Speaker 7: a trade to Jone or whatever I did. That was
31:48
Speaker 7: the supplement report by detective Uh he said that the
31:52
Speaker 7: gun was trade to John ja right number of nineteen
32:00
Speaker 7: ninety seven. Came the gun to his friend whose her
32:06
Speaker 7: name was Karen her curse her rk course and according
32:11
Speaker 7: to Arner, she the gun Frank bea On on June twentieth,
32:22
Speaker 7: nineteen ninety eight. And Frank Bayer said he gave the
32:26
Speaker 7: gun to another man by the name of Robert Colis Bush.
32:31
Speaker 7: So this gun was straight to everybody. And then finally
32:34
Speaker 7: he did he gave Robert Olisbus that he gave the
32:37
Speaker 7: gun to my guy by the name of John. The
32:40
Speaker 7: only the name he knew was John. He was a
32:42
Speaker 7: fan of Youngster. That the old a white kistom drug.
32:48
Speaker 7: And uh so that's how the gun came. Nobody, nobody
32:53
Speaker 7: was called either one of these individuals that owned the gun,
32:56
Speaker 7: especially with Robert all about the last owner Edward testified
33:00
Speaker 7: at my trial. Now, there is no other ballistics UH
33:05
Speaker 7: testing or or or document to change regarding to don
33:09
Speaker 7: regarding anything about this gun that I know of. Now.
33:13
Speaker 7: I know that I had an open records request that
33:17
Speaker 7: was provided by to me by uh F Athela Smith
33:22
Speaker 7: and UH, but I needed somebody to actually find it
33:25
Speaker 7: for me to take it doctor Samson and police department
33:27
Speaker 7: and UH and see TA can get anything that any
33:32
Speaker 7: ablem regarding that gun. However, because I don't really have
33:36
Speaker 7: any money to assist me or help me out it anyway,
33:39
Speaker 7: I wasn't able to actually launch this UH this request.
33:44
Speaker 7: So UH, I'm to answer the question. I had not
33:47
Speaker 7: been able to take any information regarding that. But other
33:50
Speaker 7: than that, I found out who owned it, does work
33:53
Speaker 7: that came from, and who was supposed to have it? Okay, sir?
33:59
Speaker 7: That that okay? So with that band saying I'm gonna
34:04
Speaker 7: call you back because my phone is gonna hang up,
34:06
Speaker 7: but that's thet be made, I got another question for
34:09
Speaker 7: you to result that.
34:11
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so we'll be here. Well, mister le gate.
34:15
Speaker 2: I have a question for you because in the documentary
34:21
Speaker 2: they said that they found just a copy of your
34:25
Speaker 2: driver's license in the in the building. Where was your
34:30
Speaker 2: original driver's license? That did you carry your original driver's
34:35
Speaker 2: license or did you just carry a cop have a
34:37
Speaker 2: copy of it? And the way the the the copy was,
34:42
Speaker 2: it was flat, it was not folded. It was It's
34:45
Speaker 2: just like you just had it in a file. That's
34:49
Speaker 2: the way it looked.
34:52
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, just keep a copy of it. I wouldn't
34:55
Speaker 7: have my driver I that bad habit. I don't know
35:01
Speaker 7: when I'm the story, I lose it, so I know, really,
35:05
Speaker 7: just make a copy of it. And I had it
35:07
Speaker 7: right there in my file. So if anybody stops, get stop.
35:10
Speaker 7: I showed my identification like that, they don't look free
35:14
Speaker 7: with it. But after I explain to the way this
35:17
Speaker 7: is my driver's she might picture her. She's everything. So anyway,
35:21
Speaker 7: that's all I had. That's all I had at the time. Uh,
35:25
Speaker 7: I think, uh, my my driver's license wasn't at the house.
35:29
Speaker 7: That i'st thing I recalled, but nobody had asked me
35:32
Speaker 7: for it and stuff like that. So I just hey,
35:34
Speaker 7: I'm giving some words that three of my possessions.
35:41
Speaker 2: Rou and you're you're the the defensive attorney. Did they
35:48
Speaker 2: bring that up? Did they you know, question that the
35:52
Speaker 2: way because to me, like I said, it looked like
35:56
Speaker 2: it was just like your ID was just xerox. There
35:59
Speaker 2: wasn't volted or anything. So that's what I was, you know,
36:03
Speaker 2: I was puzzled about that the way it looked I
36:08
Speaker 2: was laying on a the way they presented it on
36:12
Speaker 2: a on a documentary.
36:17
Speaker 7: Right. No, I never figure brought anything up about the
36:21
Speaker 7: ike or something like that, trying to say with those
36:24
Speaker 7: who that they take all identifications with it. I mean,
36:27
Speaker 7: here I am with my my, I t my jug Uh,
36:35
Speaker 7: there's my here's things and the company I worked for
36:38
Speaker 7: for business cars everything you canna damn by me one
36:42
Speaker 7: in that briefcase. I always worked with my briefcase. I
36:45
Speaker 7: always keep everything in there. Uh and like, uh you
36:49
Speaker 7: think everything if this paste it was a proposed wrong
36:53
Speaker 7: was a uh voting voted the voter fir with because
37:00
Speaker 7: they did that. Uh, Robert, I mean and Garcia was
37:08
Speaker 7: trying to pull Robert Timota figular. Rob that's all the
37:13
Speaker 7: people will come there and bother them, you know, the
37:16
Speaker 7: saying that Mitch was trying I mean, miss Garcia was
37:19
Speaker 7: trying to bron Mitch the business. That was the whole thing,
37:24
Speaker 7: just like cornelis and Earth that he's trying to, like
37:27
Speaker 7: another word, strong arming out of the business. So that
37:30
Speaker 7: was supposed to be the main motive. And then everything
37:33
Speaker 7: that the state boy, the bucket's gardener, Joey put that.
37:36
Speaker 7: The both prosecutors, they focused on that, and then they
37:40
Speaker 7: focused on well, James mcgate chess. You heard that. They
37:44
Speaker 7: said that James Legate was the one that that ed
37:49
Speaker 7: was sold. They needed to take sure, you know, mister Garcia,
37:54
Speaker 7: which is then he wanted up be they well and
37:57
Speaker 7: it's all my actuality and when guard she didn't, uh,
38:02
Speaker 7: well they did car he uh, I'm just one was killed.
38:09
Speaker 7: They kept on arguing that fact, arguing that say, arguing
38:12
Speaker 7: that say, why because I could not I could not
38:19
Speaker 7: do anything?
38:25
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for using SIS. You may start the
38:28
Speaker 2: conversation now, Okay, so we got we have for a
38:33
Speaker 2: nail back with us.
38:37
Speaker 7: Thank you, ma'am. Thank you for having me on. Uh.
38:40
Speaker 7: The issue with the gun, listen is this, it had
38:44
Speaker 7: has to be some type of traits into the weapon
38:46
Speaker 7: to determine where the weapon comes from. We already know
38:50
Speaker 7: that the state has not brought any custodian of records
38:54
Speaker 7: from the police department to determine if that gun was
38:57
Speaker 7: ever released from the property room to be sent to
39:00
Speaker 7: the Man County Medical Examiner's office to be test by.
39:03
Speaker 7: Who are the issues of the persons who have to
39:06
Speaker 7: test by the gun even though ballistic experts. The point
39:11
Speaker 7: now was that you have to make a determination on
39:15
Speaker 7: was that gun ever released from the property room, because
39:18
Speaker 7: if it was never released from the property room, that
39:20
Speaker 7: could have never been tested by you to be determined
39:23
Speaker 7: to be the murder worker. So how is it logically
39:26
Speaker 7: poponsible that no evidence was ever presented by your defense
39:31
Speaker 7: the determiners whether or not that weapon was the murder weaper,
39:35
Speaker 7: because that's the chain of custody. It has to be
39:38
Speaker 7: established before the weapon can be even admitted and to
39:41
Speaker 7: the evidence of your casements of the game. So your
39:43
Speaker 7: lawyer's never made no request for U because the records
39:47
Speaker 7: to becoming to come part to testify in your case
39:50
Speaker 7: on this behalfir No that was ever made. Hell, I
39:57
Speaker 7: don't from my aternity U those days like and twice
40:02
Speaker 7: playing two egg with me? Were he even a fishing well,
40:05
Speaker 7: you know what, the gun because came up missing from
40:09
Speaker 7: the infinite thought. And I was like, wait a minute,
40:13
Speaker 7: I think I owned him one time, said what he's
40:15
Speaker 7: being busy? What are you talking about? What is the gun?
40:18
Speaker 7: And they say, well, you know what, he never puts
40:20
Speaker 7: back to me, but in general, I'll do it, and
40:22
Speaker 7: then not to mind where he claimed and then say
40:26
Speaker 7: the weapon itself was fissing from that I might have
40:30
Speaker 7: taken work right here where he said it. Uh, but
40:35
Speaker 7: it can the weapon become missing. You know, you got
40:40
Speaker 7: it in stake in the police department. And uh now
40:44
Speaker 7: he's the saying that span itself is missing. That don't
40:47
Speaker 7: make no s so uh that's why. So anyway, take okay, listen,
40:59
Speaker 7: look at issue right there with the weapon and the
41:02
Speaker 7: property room under investigation right now, so that will be settled.
41:06
Speaker 7: So let me jump over to Sis. Listen to her,
41:08
Speaker 7: and then then okay, he is the one who claims
41:11
Speaker 7: to have given you a weapon, and they gave him
41:14
Speaker 7: qualified community from prosecution. And this individual made two statements.
41:19
Speaker 7: And this individual is allegedly the one who with the
41:21
Speaker 7: grand jury in your case. Okay, you tried to get
41:25
Speaker 7: there to release the other statements that you say was
41:28
Speaker 7: the cupatory, which meant that he contradicted his earliest statement. Okay,
41:34
Speaker 7: So now with this being said, the people who did
41:36
Speaker 7: your documentary, did they help her because they ever make
41:41
Speaker 7: any attempts to obtain the second letter that that say
41:45
Speaker 7: was the letter that mister the canandas had a and
41:49
Speaker 7: he gave you the weapon. Did Joe Defense the case
41:53
Speaker 7: that tell defense team ever secure that evidence? No? No,
42:00
Speaker 7: uh he did say that again you have done and
42:04
Speaker 7: when my eternity death general did all that stuff before
42:08
Speaker 7: my transcripts. So and I've been trying for years to
42:13
Speaker 7: try to get it from different uh uh uh you
42:17
Speaker 7: know stations like TB in which you take that well
42:21
Speaker 7: uh km a little and uh and and kids find
42:24
Speaker 7: even Philimodo was there. All these newsications were in a
42:27
Speaker 7: recorded fight far but I can get no uh no
42:32
Speaker 7: respons just trying to get that transcript although I did
42:35
Speaker 7: have an evidentary hearing home that fact, but people said
42:41
Speaker 7: there was no evidence. He can't he can't uh, he
42:44
Speaker 7: can't go to my favorite he's got a stage.
42:47
Speaker 2: You know, I have a real quick question because while
42:51
Speaker 2: I was watching the documentary, they was saying for training
42:58
Speaker 2: mister Hernandez in In order for him to testify on
43:04
Speaker 2: behalf of the state, the state had to offer him immunity,
43:09
Speaker 2: but the state didn't at first, so he wouldn't testify
43:13
Speaker 2: until he actually got that. So once he the state
43:17
Speaker 2: dropped his what was it a drug case that was
43:21
Speaker 2: pending over him, once.
43:23
Speaker 7: The state dropped.
43:24
Speaker 2: Once that was dropped, then he went and testified on
43:31
Speaker 2: behalf of the state.
43:34
Speaker 7: Right right, and did uh uh pretective all right, all
43:44
Speaker 7: kinds of stuff. But he never wanted to uh he
43:47
Speaker 7: never wanted to do a uh particular to take the case.
43:52
Speaker 7: He just he just didn't want to go off. Well,
43:58
Speaker 7: that's what a predictive all break that did? Uh this
44:01
Speaker 7: the district attorney, but it's a barrel fisher and asked
44:05
Speaker 7: her to uh stumble at him to uh uh to
44:09
Speaker 7: the grand tourist and while being at the Grandeurs, that's
44:12
Speaker 7: what they gave him. In music now, according to miss
44:16
Speaker 7: the documentary mixpict Romero, she said Jesse not was the
44:25
Speaker 7: Bulion that but Jesse her Dance and uh was was
44:29
Speaker 7: still if they dispinsted, but it's still on Jesse Her
44:34
Speaker 7: Dance records. But they they made with him for his testipoint.
44:41
Speaker 7: He is.
44:44
Speaker 2: Wow, So do anybody know what is Jesse Hernandez said.
44:51
Speaker 7: No, no, not that well, no, I did run across
44:55
Speaker 7: an article uh uh about three three weeks ago that
45:00
Speaker 7: shot it's her well, uh in a standoffs he was
45:06
Speaker 7: fifty two years old and did actually take the same Jesse.
45:11
Speaker 7: Her is tegnified. I'm on the same age. But if
45:14
Speaker 7: they was one, I told her that it had a
45:16
Speaker 7: standoff with the police, and I believe you read that
45:21
Speaker 7: article and it said how he was doing or something
45:25
Speaker 7: like that, and fucking mind when he came out and
45:26
Speaker 7: started shooting at the officers and he wound up getting killed.
45:31
Speaker 7: Now I cannot say that the same one, he used
45:35
Speaker 7: to say. I can't keep that the same person. But
45:40
Speaker 7: if trying to find that evidence out too, because if
45:48
Speaker 7: it is, she looks a character after all these years
45:51
Speaker 7: on his own man shooting at officers and wound up
45:53
Speaker 7: getting killed. M hm ax you a question of ccle Okay,
46:01
Speaker 7: go ahead on you, uh the documentary person, they are right, Okay,
46:07
Speaker 7: Is there any way possible that we can make a
46:10
Speaker 7: request to reopen your documentary and this case and demonstrate
46:15
Speaker 7: that some type of misconduct has occurred in this case,
46:20
Speaker 7: and that you are actually being deliberately trained by city
46:25
Speaker 7: and county officials for the murder of the big Old
46:28
Speaker 7: King that you did not commit. And with that being said,
46:32
Speaker 7: it has been now discovered that mysteriously the murder weapon
46:35
Speaker 7: has been missing. Mysteriously, no one has found any guns
46:39
Speaker 7: bout of residue on your hands, all your clothing. Were
46:42
Speaker 7: they ever even admitted the inevidence of the case. That's
46:45
Speaker 7: the question to be asked too, and that there's too
46:48
Speaker 7: many questions that needs to be asked in your case.
46:51
Speaker 7: So with that being said, my question again, is there
46:54
Speaker 7: any way possible that you can make the request to
46:59
Speaker 7: case that indicated and conducted it your documentary, to have
47:04
Speaker 7: your documentary we opened the further investigation. If you think
47:08
Speaker 7: that that's possible, well, well, to be honest with you,
47:12
Speaker 7: I don't know what saying of an interest for a
47:15
Speaker 7: venal no longer works for a pay that til something
47:19
Speaker 7: happened along the line that they did not want to
47:22
Speaker 7: renew her contract. And I don't know why, and and
47:26
Speaker 7: and I don't know if that's the reason why she
47:28
Speaker 7: don't even respond to my letters anymore. Uh, But I
47:32
Speaker 7: didn't know if she is working for kids five and uh.
47:36
Speaker 7: I always told her if it was any news that
47:39
Speaker 7: came up for anything, I'm always gonna know because I
47:41
Speaker 7: don't want her to have full access to any news
47:46
Speaker 7: or anything available it comes available that she could have
47:49
Speaker 7: the story.
47:51
Speaker 1: Uh.
47:51
Speaker 7: But like I said, I trying to write and uh
47:58
Speaker 7: but she just ever respond I don't know if she did.
48:01
Speaker 7: They told her not to want me no more, not
48:03
Speaker 7: to contact me no more. I don't know if they
48:05
Speaker 7: got that because of the documentary showing to choose and
48:09
Speaker 7: they got out at her. They didn't want to read
48:10
Speaker 7: her contract even though that approved that approve for her
48:16
Speaker 7: to do the documentary. They paid for everything. Now it's
48:21
Speaker 7: just like everything doing just she just contacted me and everything.
48:25
Speaker 7: So I really don't think I can get that done
48:27
Speaker 7: even if.
48:34
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, I just wanted to point out
48:39
Speaker 2: that the lady.
48:42
Speaker 7: What was her name, Oh no, miss Murdoch, don't want
48:49
Speaker 7: the witness also.
48:57
Speaker 2: Uh. I took a screenshot of that she said when
49:02
Speaker 2: they went to subpoena her, she said that you did
49:07
Speaker 2: not do it?
49:10
Speaker 7: Did she exactly?
49:11
Speaker 1: Is she?
49:12
Speaker 2: She never took the stage, I mean the stage to
49:15
Speaker 2: stand on your behalf.
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Speaker 7: No matter. In fact, we didn't even know that this
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Speaker 7: even existed. This is where a membo was written by
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Speaker 7: Kate's Cone investigator j Ray Hildebrandt regarding the remark that
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Speaker 7: this Maddix mating where he didn't do it, Well, it
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Speaker 7: wasn't until two thousand and two or three. I believed
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Speaker 7: that my ant went to go and investigate the bustle
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Speaker 7: to houses for a havior purposes. And during that time
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Speaker 7: that's when he discovered the memo which had other notes
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Speaker 7: on it, and they said it was the resculpatory nature,
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Speaker 7: and he gave me a gament to that fact. Well,
49:52
Speaker 7: because my friends were running hill, I could not actually
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Speaker 7: afford in, so of course I have to do it
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Speaker 7: on my home. And when I read it, that raised
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Speaker 7: it under a swept type pame of actual innocense, right,
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Speaker 7: And I raised this under Brady. Well when I did,
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Speaker 7: for he got the prosecutor herself what he about. His
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Speaker 7: gardener submitted affecating, and she claimed that she stuck to
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Speaker 7: this witness, and and that that that witness said that
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Speaker 7: she never told the investigator that I never did it.
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Speaker 7: So so that made me believe that she's calling her
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Speaker 7: own intipator, a liar, straight up working working uh uh
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Speaker 7: her own investigator that's been working with it for users,
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Speaker 7: calling him a liar. Why he makes this about all
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Speaker 7: the film, but that's what she said he did. And
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Speaker 7: she goes off and says that everything that Ms. Maddis
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Speaker 7: was telling her would have hurt me. Hill well disposed
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Speaker 7: the question if that was true, and white hyper or
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Speaker 7: not wonder on the instead she hit her she never
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Speaker 7: made known any of this diffidences, nothing about her testimony.
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Speaker 7: She may knows nothing about this this memo, even though
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Speaker 7: we were all very evidence that our emotions would support grassed,
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Speaker 7: but nothing was provided defend. I'm still if they would
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Speaker 7: have put her on the bend, and she said that
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Speaker 7: they would have made some very uh uh uh raised
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Speaker 7: and eyebrow, you know, said and it would have brought
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Speaker 7: a lot of other stuff regarding how how I meant
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Speaker 7: her howl, I did know where she were and and
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Speaker 7: stuff like this. But then she said she didn't even
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Speaker 7: know me and all stuff. So yeah, she never when
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Speaker 7: they were to sippified, and it wasn't until later on
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Speaker 7: when they wrote his story, all were tiny. The change
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Speaker 7: that we found out their very managed actually tied in
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Speaker 7: two thousand and two, where mister hilde Grant followed soon
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Speaker 7: after like about two thousands and tied. I believed that
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Speaker 7: he passed away also, so there goes everybody that fuck
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Speaker 7: it was uh that they would help some me. Uh god,
51:58
Speaker 7: I mean that's the all mean or r T twenty.
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Speaker 7: Everything was done. All I had was in the MEMMO
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Speaker 7: and court, Sharon making ready with she wanted to get
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Speaker 7: this sissing my team that I can cover d you know,
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Speaker 7: because she took the stage investigator, I mean to stake
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Speaker 7: the Affidavid is true and credible and not overde So yeah,
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Speaker 7: I was. I was. I was denying everything, every simple
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Speaker 7: my faster indeed and everything I tried to do. And
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Speaker 7: I did you have.
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Speaker 2: Any did anyone tested on your behalf on your trial?
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Speaker 7: I had don't symptified on my travel. One of them
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Speaker 7: trying to come in, which was Gettle mind me. He
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Speaker 7: was a witness why you know cause I told him
52:46
Speaker 7: that I'm looking for Meriton. Matt Well, we had a
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Speaker 7: cap from a interview without the jurors president and just
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Speaker 7: taken that cheersday that cheers say you can't have scood
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Speaker 7: this so it is not allowed but to use that
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Speaker 7: as the bout it, which would have very very viable
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Speaker 7: to my cage that I believe, and it would have
53:04
Speaker 7: been uh there's an exception to the rule to that
53:09
Speaker 7: type of to that type of testimony I bought. Although
53:12
Speaker 7: at the time of I know that there was also
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Speaker 7: uh uh honey to be the owner of roch polche
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Speaker 7: car who yeah, if you one had to go intomatic,
53:23
Speaker 7: you want it? Gave me the contract. You don't understand
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Speaker 7: why why I would do such a thing if I
53:29
Speaker 7: needed funny because I always handled it's funny like something
53:32
Speaker 7: as I have five dollars for that's a thousand dollars
53:34
Speaker 7: that people forgive me the gift to him. I also
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Speaker 7: had super uh super uh can call. I wanted to
53:44
Speaker 7: take all the cars if I want to take because
53:46
Speaker 7: I don't see him doing this because that's not who
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Speaker 7: he is. So I had these people time for me.
53:52
Speaker 7: But still does it you know, I mean I couldn't.
53:55
Speaker 7: I couldn't do that now I want to know. But
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Speaker 7: from the Tenner fight for because he came in to me.
54:11
Speaker 7: You have to give a character, the character with the
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Speaker 7: passion because they know not a bad person. And he
54:22
Speaker 7: goes to you for a long time, they're gonna, he goes,
54:25
Speaker 7: So I'm gonna go get the fight for you. But
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Speaker 7: to him anyway, well, you know I'm gonna have too.
54:31
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to jump in because we're we're now
54:35
Speaker 2: half six minutes left of this show. I'm gonna give
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Speaker 2: you two minutes, and then i'm gonna give my co
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Speaker 2: hosts two minutes, and then I'm gonna in. But right now,
54:48
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm gonna go ahead and give you
54:50
Speaker 2: your two minutes because what I'm gonna read is coming.
54:55
Speaker 2: I screenshot some of the comments that was up under
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Speaker 2: the documentary and I just wanted to read them to you.
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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna give you your clothes and your two minutes,
55:06
Speaker 2: and then we're gonna shoot to my co host and
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Speaker 2: then I'll wrap it up.
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Speaker 7: All right. I say everybody to know I had men
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Speaker 7: this crime. I did not submit this crime. Like I
55:17
Speaker 7: said earlier, Everything was based on Federal Samona. His motives
55:22
Speaker 7: were killing Edigo here because he wanted to take over
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Speaker 7: his business. And according to sense Hernandez, I was the
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Speaker 7: one to be said supposed to it uri trial, he
55:34
Speaker 7: would pronounce it. He was sad and Uh. Then he
55:38
Speaker 7: went on with his scenarios. But now that he's alive,
55:43
Speaker 7: now they changed it too, and saying, well they don't
55:45
Speaker 7: have enough infidus to bring against federal tomorrow, you know,
55:48
Speaker 7: so we're gonna seed me. I've inviting my cage since
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Speaker 7: day one, and I'm going on twenty six years September
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Speaker 7: the third. I have twenty six years in cultivating for
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Speaker 7: a crime like the not Tokay, there's anybody out there
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Speaker 7: that has points or needs to contact me to ask
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Speaker 7: me anything of everything, almost know more about my case.
56:06
Speaker 7: Just wait to contact mission can finally give me your
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Speaker 7: information and I can contact you. But that's if anybody
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Speaker 7: needs to all an asking. I'll be the documentary walking
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Speaker 7: over opinion, uh with the story bird the group by
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Speaker 7: Tictions of Silver Magazine and you and I thank you
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Speaker 7: for your retiring. I understand my feet for help.
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Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, okay, go ahead and car host you're
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Speaker 2: two minutes.
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Speaker 7: Thanks you, ma'am. I would like for the artist to
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Speaker 7: know that mister James mcgate how a point I too
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Speaker 7: was wrongly convicted and Bertny san Antonio tick w has
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Speaker 7: been your set up that a massive Fellows piction scamdough
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Speaker 7: is going on over there. Mister James Legate's attorney, mister
56:52
Speaker 7: Sharon McCray is a part of the double billings scam.
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Speaker 7: Mister James mcgate appeal attorney, mister Ray Taylors the one
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Speaker 7: who will require to investigate evenus six s candal who
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Speaker 7: end up covering up seven and sixths candal in Bear Carey.
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Speaker 7: So as of right now, there's a one hundred get
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Speaker 7: out of lawsuit pending against the Santonial Police Department, the
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Speaker 7: Bear County Medical Examiner's Office, the city Mayor, the King
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Speaker 7: of Police, the city's attorney in San Antonio right now
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Speaker 7: on the case number, it's a twenty three silbu zeroz
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Speaker 7: rull three eight nine O LG. Cornell drummo versus Alvin C.
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Speaker 7: Brown and San Antonio take mister jameson Gate have a point.
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Speaker 7: A lot of the evidence in Bear County is being
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Speaker 7: strut in front of the rug and garoth be convicted
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Speaker 7: doubles of envy in San Antonio. So if anybody's listening
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Speaker 7: to this, wereens get involved in this investigation and let's
57:47
Speaker 7: see if we can get Missus Dames Legates case we
57:50
Speaker 7: opened for a further investigation Thank you very much, man,
57:54
Speaker 7: thank you.
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Speaker 2: You know what, family, I'm gonna just read this to
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Speaker 2: mister Legate because I know he does, but he doesn't
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Speaker 2: have access to see the documentary. One of your brothers
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Speaker 2: post in the comments that my brother is innocent, he's
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Speaker 2: not a murderer, and then you had someone everyone that
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Speaker 2: commented under that all believe in your innocence. All believe
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Speaker 2: that you're being falsely framed by a certain family that
58:30
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna mention. We'll talk about that when you
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Speaker 2: call me later, mister Legate. If it's anyone out there
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Speaker 2: that can help mister Legate, please you can contact me
58:46
Speaker 2: and let's talk about it on Instagram. Just reach out.
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Speaker 2: This is a he's innocent. Please look at the documentary.
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Speaker 2: Watch the documentary. Just don't but take our word. Watch
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Speaker 2: the documentary and you will see where they say that
59:07
Speaker 2: he got his he didn't get a fair trial. And
59:12
Speaker 2: even the reporters that did the documentary believe in mystery
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Speaker 2: Legate's innocent. If you once you look at it and
59:21
Speaker 2: remember what he said on here, his story never changed.
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Speaker 2: And he had not seen the documentary, have you?
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Speaker 7: Is that right?
59:33
Speaker 2: You haven't seen the documentary, mister Legate. So family, if
59:47
Speaker 2: I may have him come back in the future, but
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Speaker 2: I need please look into his cake case. Remember, speak up,
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Speaker 2: speak out, even if your voice is shaky.
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Speaker 7: I love you.
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Speaker 2: Enjoy the worst of your week A mercy losses.
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Speaker 3: All things ain't what things do stupid? Where did all
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Speaker 3: the blue sky's but boys? And there's no way that
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Speaker 3: blows from the Lord, from something