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Inciting hostility Mullin, Mamdani spar over ICE shooting in New York · THE DAILY BRIEF

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  Speaker 1: Good evening.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight, the Trump administration is facing a legal battle to
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  Speaker 2: keep a suspected gang member in federal custody after he
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  Speaker 2: was shot by an ICE agent right here in New
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  Speaker 2: York City. DHS tells us Oscar Belgal is from the
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  Speaker 2: Dominican Republic and in the country illegally with a prior
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  Speaker 2: felony conviction, an act of warrant, and suspected ties to
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  Speaker 2: a violent New York street gang. Federal officials also say
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  Speaker 2: he was questioned in connection to last year's shooting of
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  Speaker 2: an off-duty Border Patrol agent right here in Manhattan.
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  Speaker 3: He has three years of extensive criminal activity. You're going
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  Speaker 3: to call that a New Yorker? I think that's a
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  Speaker 3: far cry.
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  Speaker 2: New body camera footage today from the scene. It shows
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  Speaker 2: Belgal there right on the ground after he was shot
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  Speaker 2: by the agent during a targeted enforcement operation. DHS tells
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  Speaker 2: Fox an agent opened fire after Belgal tried to drive
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  Speaker 2: off heading right toward officers. His five-year-old son was in
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  Speaker 2: the back seat but was not hurt. Belgal is now
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  Speaker 2: being held at a federal detention center in Brooklyn as
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  Speaker 2: attorneys fight to get him released, saying he still needs
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  Speaker 2: medical care.
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  Speaker 4: All I can say is that we're deeply concerned.
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  Speaker 5: Anybody who's still walking around with a bullet in their
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  Speaker 5: body is obviously raises a ton of questions.
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  Speaker 4: About their well-being.
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  Speaker 2: The shooting sparked major protests and clashes with NYPD officers.
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  Speaker 2: Five people arrested. Some were Democratic Socialist leaders on the
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  Speaker 2: ground demanding the police commissioner resign.
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  Speaker 6: We know that ICE is rotten to its core. They
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  Speaker 6: have killed far more of our neighbors than they could
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  Speaker 6: ever have claimed to save.
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  Speaker 2: Bill Gall's attorneys say they will advise the courts on
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  Speaker 2: Tuesday about whether they want the case in New York
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  Speaker 2: or in New Jersey, Brett.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Alexis, thank you.
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  Speaker 7: Joining me now by phone, DHS Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen.
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  Speaker 7: Secretary Mullen, thank you very much. It's good to have
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  Speaker 7: you with us. Obviously, this was a chaotic night, didn't
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  Speaker 7: necessarily need to be. And then you had a two-hour
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  Speaker 7: phone call with you, Mayor Mamdani, and President Trump. What
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  Speaker 7: can you tell us about the back and forth on
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  Speaker 7: that call, Secretary?
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  Speaker 3: Well, the governor was on the phone, too, back and forth.
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  Speaker 3: And the governor, I've got to be frank here, the
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  Speaker 3: governor was being somewhat respectful and reasonable. Madame was being,
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  Speaker 3: or the mayor was being cordial, but unrealistic. The fact
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  Speaker 3: that they wanted to release this individual back on the
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  Speaker 3: streets is absurd. President Trump was very cordial. He was
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  Speaker 3: very nice. He said, listen, NYPD, they're the finest. If
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  Speaker 3: you guys want to take custody of him, then we'll
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  Speaker 3: be happy to give you custody of him while the
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  Speaker 3: investigation is going. But keep in mind, this guy is
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  Speaker 3: on probation for, let me explain what he's on probation for.
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  Speaker 3: Four robbery charges, two charges of felony assault, felony larceny, assault,
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  Speaker 3: weapons assault, weapons possession of misdemeanor larceny, possession of stolen property,
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  Speaker 3: and two felony charges of dangerous drugs, all in three years.
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  Speaker 3: And that's how long he's been in the country. And
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  Speaker 3: the president's like, he's got probation violations. New York PD
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  Speaker 3: can obviously pick him up, hold him. If you're willing
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  Speaker 3: to do that, we'll release him to your custody, to
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  Speaker 3: which the mayor refused to do that. They said they
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  Speaker 3: wanted him fully released and back on the streets, and
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  Speaker 3: we can't do that. President Trump said we were going
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  Speaker 3: to go after the worst of the worst and restore
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  Speaker 3: law and order, even when these sanctuary politicians won't. So
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  Speaker 3: while it was a long conversation, it wasn't very productive,
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  Speaker 3: even though President Trump tried his best to make a deal.
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  Speaker 7: So what evidence do you all have that this individual
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  Speaker 7: is related to this Trinitarios gang, which likes to ride
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  Speaker 7: around on mopeds and wield weapons and rob people? What's
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  Speaker 7: the connection to that and also to a potential shooting
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  Speaker 7: of a border official that you think he may have
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  Speaker 7: had knowledge of?
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  Speaker 3: Well, we know his gang affiliation without question is to
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  Speaker 3: that gang. That's not even questionable. The NYPD... And the
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  Speaker 3: mayor himself doesn't deny that. We feel like this gang
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  Speaker 3: is directly related to a CVP officer that was shot
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  Speaker 3: last year. We feel that there's a good chance that
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  Speaker 3: he is directly or indirectly involved or has knowledge of
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  Speaker 3: this shooting. That's why he got on our radar to
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  Speaker 3: begin with. This guy, Oscar, he's not a good guy.
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  Speaker 3: He is the worst of the worst. And what's frustrating
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  Speaker 3: to me, Martha, is that you had the mayor going
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  Speaker 3: out and grandstanding on this individual that has no business
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  Speaker 3: being in our country to begin with because he's illegal. Well,
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  Speaker 3: he has an extensive rap sheet. Time after time, New
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  Speaker 3: York City has released him. The Biden administration released him
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  Speaker 3: back on the streets. And yet the mayor was completely
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  Speaker 3: silent last week when his own NYPD officer was stabbed
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  Speaker 3: seven times by also two criminals from Dominican Republic that
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  Speaker 3: was released back on the streets that DHS had detainers
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  Speaker 3: on and asked them to release them to our custody.
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  Speaker 3: And they released them on the streets and they stabbed
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  Speaker 3: an officer seven times. All three of these individuals, Oscar
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  Speaker 3: and these two that stabbed the officer, are all three
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  Speaker 3: from a Dominican Republican.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, it's obvious that the streets of New
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  Speaker 7: York would be safer with these gang members and related
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  Speaker 7: individuals not on the streets. It's hard to understand why
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  Speaker 7: Mayor Mamdani can't see that, that he doesn't want the
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  Speaker 7: streets to be as safe as possible. I would also
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  Speaker 7: point out, you know, the two areas of backlash, and
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  Speaker 7: I want you to give you an opportunity to address these.
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  Speaker 7: One is the child who was in the back of
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  Speaker 7: the vehicle And the other is the description of the
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  Speaker 7: ICE agents and the wielding of this AR-15. There's video
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  Speaker 7: that is making the rounds and questions about whether or
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  Speaker 7: not you feel that, you know, all of the actions
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  Speaker 7: here were appropriate when you look at it. What do
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  Speaker 7: you say?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I can't get into the specifics of the case
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  Speaker 3: because it is being investigated. I will tell you though,
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  Speaker 3: the individual they're showing online was not the individual that
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  Speaker 3: approached the vehicles. He was given lethal or lawful demands
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  Speaker 3: to exit the vehicle. The perpetrator, Oscar, refused to exit
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  Speaker 3: the vehicle. He knew we were looking for him because, Martha,
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  Speaker 3: he had ran from us in September, so he knew
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  Speaker 3: we were coming for him. He knew well who we
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  Speaker 3: were because when we gave him lawful demands, we also
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  Speaker 3: identified ourselves. We had no idea that the child was
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  Speaker 3: in the vehicle. Oscar put his child at risk when
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  Speaker 3: he chose to accelerate hit two federal vehicles and also
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  Speaker 3: weaponized the vehicle and moved towards an accelerator rate towards
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  Speaker 3: officers that were trying to apprehend him. We understood this
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  Speaker 3: was going to be a contentious arrest, and we had
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  Speaker 3: taken all the precautions we could. We had both ends
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  Speaker 3: of the block blocked off. They talk about the streets
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  Speaker 3: being wide open. That isn't accurate. We had worked our
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  Speaker 3: best to try to get as many people away before
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  Speaker 3: we actually went towards the individual. Now, it's a public street,
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  Speaker 3: so there was some people on the street, but we
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  Speaker 3: did our best to de-escalate it. He's the one that
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  Speaker 3: escalated it. But, you know, this should have never happened
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  Speaker 3: if NYPD was allowed to keep him in custody because
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  Speaker 3: the sanctuary politicians that run New York City now They
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  Speaker 3: released him back on the streets, and this is what
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  Speaker 3: took place. If they would honor our detainers, I want
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  Speaker 3: to throw some numbers out to you, Martha. We have 14,766
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  Speaker 3: detainers right now on individuals that New York City has
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  Speaker 3: in custody or the state of New York. That represents 47,750
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  Speaker 3: criminal charges. Just to give you some perspective on this,
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  Speaker 3: 96 homicide cases in the state of New York, 93
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  Speaker 3: for the city of New York. Kidnappings, these individuals, 114
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  Speaker 3: individuals kidnapping, 113 in New York City. Sexual assault, 448.
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  Speaker 3: in New York, 441 in New York City. These are
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  Speaker 3: the type of individuals we have detainers on, and the
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  Speaker 3: state of New York and the city of New York
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  Speaker 3: City will not honor these individuals. It's absurd. It's astounding.
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  Speaker 7: Those numbers are incredible. And every leadership person in New
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  Speaker 7: York City should want those people off the streets so
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  Speaker 7: that people can live safely here. And I would just
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  Speaker 7: want to reiterate what you said about this child, because
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  Speaker 7: if he had stepped away from the car and cooperated
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  Speaker 7: with the officials, He had it within his own power
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  Speaker 7: to make sure that there was never any that the
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  Speaker 7: child was never in any danger. And you have stated
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  Speaker 7: that you all had no idea that there was a child.
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  Speaker 3: In the backseat. As a father of six kids, it's
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  Speaker 3: my job to protect my kids. I would never put
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  Speaker 3: them into a dangerous situation like that. I the last
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  Speaker 3: thing I would do is I'd give my life to
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  Speaker 3: protect my kids life. And every parent would say the
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  Speaker 3: same thing. And that's why I say he chose to
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  Speaker 3: endanger the five year old. And that should have never
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  Speaker 3: taken place. That tells you how selfish of an individual
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  Speaker 3: that Oscar is.
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  Speaker 4: Well put.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you so much, Secretary Mullen. Good to have you
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  Speaker 7: with us today.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, sir. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: So we've learned a lot that we didn't know this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Oscar Bagao, age 28, had a gang association, according to
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  Speaker 1: that press conference. They tried to arrest him in September.
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  Speaker 1: They still had a detainer on him in New York alone. Dana,
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  Speaker 1: I wrote down seven charges, robbery, grand larceny, et cetera.
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  Speaker 1: There were body cams and there's a possibility that there
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  Speaker 1: were several body cams. And I don't when we see
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  Speaker 1: that video, maybe later today.
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  Speaker 4: We'll wait on that.
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  Speaker 1: Also, it's been reported that for two hours on the phone,
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  Speaker 1: the president and Mark Wayne Mullen were in conversation with
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  Speaker 1: Mayor Mamdani here in New York and likely the Attorney
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  Speaker 1: General Letitia James as well. So we'll try and nail
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  Speaker 1: that second part down. But there's a lot of new information.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to bring in Vicki Palladino now. She's the
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  Speaker 1: Republican New York City Councilwoman. We talked to her before.
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  Speaker 1: We'll bring in Mary Katherine Hamm and Tudor Dixon in
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  Speaker 1: a moment here. Vicki, your reaction now to what we
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  Speaker 1: just heard from the Department of Homeland Security. Let's start there,
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  Speaker 1: then we'll get into all the other details next.
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  Speaker 8: He was amazing. Absolutely. Secretary Mullen was amazing. He carried
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  Speaker 8: it from start to finish. He couldn't make it more clear.
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  Speaker 8: As a sitting elected official in the city of New York,
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  Speaker 8: I had to hear Mayor Mondani get up there last
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  Speaker 8: night as if he was some sort of whoever he
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  Speaker 8: thinks he is. Anyway, we're a municipality, okay? We've had
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  Speaker 8: this problem now since the Adams administration when we allowed
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  Speaker 8: all these people.
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  Speaker 9: In over the border.
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  Speaker 8: Again, to Secretary Mullen, you nailed it on every point.
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  Speaker 8: The Bronx has been ridden with crime. Illegal mopeds, murder.
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  Speaker 8: Do they talk about the little kids that are shot
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  Speaker 8: by these gang members? A young mother pushing a one-
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  Speaker 8: or two-year-old baby in a carriage that was struck last
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  Speaker 8: year or over this past summer, shot dead in the head.
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  Speaker 8: This has been a constant battle. And to see these
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  Speaker 8: maniacs out in the street. Let's remember, Zoran wants to
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  Speaker 8: close Rikers Island. The governor wants to close Rikers Island.
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  Speaker 8: This guy here that you got the picture of, he
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  Speaker 8: has been on their tail. They have been on his
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  Speaker 8: tail now for over two years. They got him yesterday.
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  Speaker 8: They had a six-year-old. He had a six-year-old. in the car.
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  Speaker 8: It was his doings, not ICE's doings. That kid is safe.
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  Speaker 4: He got away.
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  Speaker 8: He's in jail, now removed out of the state. Best
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  Speaker 8: thing they could have done. And don't trust a word
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  Speaker 8: that Kathy Hochul said as far as she's going to
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  Speaker 8: try to cooperate. There's going to be no cooperation here,
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  Speaker 8: not from the state. and not from the city. And
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  Speaker 8: we've got a big election coming in November that we
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  Speaker 8: could kind of change things around. This blue city, this
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  Speaker 8: blue state, we're in big trouble. Thank you to ICE.
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  Speaker 8: Thank you to Secretary Mullen. That was as strong as
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  Speaker 8: could be. And anybody that.
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  Speaker 4: And why you.
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  Speaker 8: The fact that we're doing this is to answer Zoran Mondani. Zoran,
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  Speaker 8: take a back seat. You're the mayor of a new municipality.
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  Speaker 8: the city of New York, and you're ordering us? Then
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  Speaker 8: you had the Bronx borough president cursing her head off
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  Speaker 8: outside of her office last night, too, using all sorts
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  Speaker 8: of profanity and raising... the heat in this city to
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  Speaker 8: the highest level it could possibly go. Meanwhile, they're doing
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  Speaker 8: their job. They're taking the worst of the worst off
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  Speaker 8: of our streets, and I welcome Isaac to my office
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  Speaker 8: anytime they want to come for a cup of coffee.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. Okay. Okay.
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  Speaker 8: Had to relax a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: Gotcha.
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  Speaker 8: This is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to let our viewers know, you represent
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  Speaker 1: the neighborhood of Whitestone, which is in Queens, New York.
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  Speaker 1: It was just east of Manhattan, so I just want
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  Speaker 1: to clear that up. Also, one other thing. The president
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  Speaker 1: is coming to New York State later tonight He's going
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  Speaker 1: to hold a rally in Syracuse, New York, on behalf
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  Speaker 1: of Bruce Blayton, who's trying to unseat Kathleen.
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  Speaker 10: So protesters clashing overnight with the New York City police
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  Speaker 10: after a criminal illegal migrant was shot by ICE agents.
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  Speaker 10: The mayor slamming the agency, saying it does not keep
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  Speaker 10: the city safe.
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  Speaker 6: Today's shooting is only further devastating confirmation of what we
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  Speaker 6: have long known. which is that ICE operates with impunity,
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  Speaker 6: that they sow chaos and terror across our country. This
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  Speaker 6: city wants ICE out. All they do is terrorize this city.
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  Speaker 10: Joining us now to react, the New York GOP Attorney
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  Speaker 10: General candidate, Saritha Kamatiri.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you so much for joining the program.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 10: Saritha, what do you make of the mayor's comments right there?
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  Speaker 6: Listen.
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  Speaker 5: Our system in New York, it's broken. It's important to
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  Speaker 5: understand how it got this way. Letitia James and all
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  Speaker 5: of the defund the police movement broke it in 2019
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  Speaker 5: and 2020. And I saw that because I was a
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  Speaker 5: federal prosecutor. And I started under President Obama. Let me
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  Speaker 5: tell you how we used to do things. We used
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  Speaker 5: to make sure that when someone was caught by the
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  Speaker 5: NYPD for a crime, like grand larceny or drug trafficking,
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  Speaker 5: If they're a danger to the community, we used to
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  Speaker 5: have laws in New York where they would be held
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  Speaker 5: instead of released. But then bail reform came along, and
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  Speaker 5: that was Letitia James who championed bail reform. So we
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  Speaker 5: got a catch-and-release policy where people who are dangerous are
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  Speaker 5: released into the community. And then, even when those people
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  Speaker 5: are here illegally, like violent criminals here illegally, under the
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  Speaker 5: Obama administration, you would take the people who came out
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  Speaker 5: of state jail... and hand them over to federal officials
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  Speaker 5: at the jailhouse door. No one had to go into
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  Speaker 5: any neighborhoods. But that also changed because Letitia James sued
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  Speaker 5: to change it. And they passed something called... They call
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  Speaker 5: it the Protect Our Courts Act. I call it the
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  Speaker 5: Protect Our Criminals Act. And it, again, releases violent criminals.
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  Speaker 4: Into the community.
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  Speaker 5: So you get these tragedies like we saw last night.
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  Speaker 5: And the facts are still coming out. So I don't
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  Speaker 5: want to prejudge them. I will say... No one really
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  Speaker 5: wants to see these enforcement operations happen in communities when
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  Speaker 5: they could happen safely at the jailhouse door. That's how
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  Speaker 5: we used to do it under Democrats and Republicans. It
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  Speaker 5: changed because Tish James decided to put in place every
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  Speaker 5: policy she could think of that just releases criminals into
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  Speaker 5: our communities.
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  Speaker 10: So speaking of Tish James, Attorney General, she has been outspoken.
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  Speaker 10: She's a special prosecutor now for the Cornell case and
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  Speaker 10: the allegations there. But she's weighed in on the investigation
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  Speaker 10: before she's even gotten all the facts.
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  Speaker 7: That's right.
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  Speaker 4: There's been some pushback on that.
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  Speaker 10: Here's one of the attorneys from one of the men accused.
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  Speaker 7: And we are going to abolish ICE, and we're going
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  Speaker 7: to take that to the federal level, and we're going
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  Speaker 7: to do that in Congress.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry about that. That was a wrong sign. Let's
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  Speaker 4: try it again.
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  Speaker 5: Her words....
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  Speaker 9: I think are reasonably read as she's accepted a central
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  Speaker 9: factual premise of the allegations. And that person should not
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  Speaker 9: be tasked with an independent investigation.
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  Speaker 4: Is those the right comments right there?
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  Speaker 5: Listen, sexual assault cases are some of the most important
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  Speaker 5: kinds of criminal cases that you can handle as a prosecutor.
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  Speaker 5: I was a federal prosecutor for 12 years. I personally
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  Speaker 5: prosecuted sexual assault cases. I even put a man in
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  Speaker 5: prison for life for a series of horrific sexual assaults.
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  Speaker 5: So I know how to handle those cases. She obviously
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  Speaker 5: does not. She's never prosecuted a criminal case at all
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  Speaker 5: in her entire career. And it's correct. You cannot and
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  Speaker 5: should not judge a case before you know the facts
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  Speaker 5: of the actual case. She's prejudged it. And I understand
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  Speaker 5: the comments from that attorney, but... The reality is everyone's
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  Speaker 5: saying the same thing. The New York Times, the Wall
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  Speaker 5: Street Journal, the New York Magazine, folks across the political
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  Speaker 5: spectrum have realized that what she has said is wrong.
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  Speaker 4: Saritha Kamarata Reddy.
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  Speaker 5: Kamati Reddy.
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  Speaker 4: Reddy, New York GOP Attorney General candidate. Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you.
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