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A Chat with Chelsea · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with her Radio. It is another episode of the Almost
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  Speaker 1: Famous podcast. Ashley are so pumped to be here for
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  Speaker 1: multiple reasons. One, I do have a personal antidote to
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  Speaker 1: share with you all. It is the week that we
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  Speaker 1: celebrate Ashley I Canetti's birth into this world. Happy Birthday,
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  Speaker 1: Ashley I Canettie. Happy Birthday week. I guess, thank you
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  Speaker 1: so much. Thirty three is like mid thirties now, so
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it's a big job. Do you feel
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  Speaker 1: like thirty three is a big I think it's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, thirty two, early thirties, thirty three? Are you
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  Speaker 1: early thirties? Are you been thirties? Yeah? And you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I just did a cameo last night where somebody sent
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  Speaker 1: me a message for their wife and it was her
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  Speaker 1: thirty third birthday. I'm turning thirty two in just a
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  Speaker 1: few weeks um and it started with this, please tell
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  Speaker 1: her she makes thirty three look. And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh God, that was like I was like, come on,
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  Speaker 1: come on. I remember. I remember I read this study
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  Speaker 1: that women apparently hit their peak attractiveness at the age
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  Speaker 1: of thirty one. So for like all my twenties. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, you know, it's okay because apparently I peek
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  Speaker 1: at thirty one and now I'm two years over that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're in this season of life. It's super No, it's
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  Speaker 1: super special. Like, you know, you're not a kid. You
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  Speaker 1: can't use that excuse. I really can't. You're an adult.
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  Speaker 1: You are a huge piece of society. You're you're forming
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  Speaker 1: this world, like this is a cool season for you.
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  Speaker 1: But you have now I think at like thirty three,
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  Speaker 1: even thirty, you've got to give up all like excuses
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  Speaker 1: of oh I'm just still young, like you're not young anymore. Um,
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  Speaker 1: And that's okay, that's not a bad thing. It's just
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  Speaker 1: a weird feeling. I was cleaning out my closet because
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  Speaker 1: we're moving, so I'm trying to get rid of a
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  Speaker 1: whole bunch of stuff I won't wear again. And I
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  Speaker 1: do this through face time with my sister because I'm
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  Speaker 1: such a pack rat. I'll find a sentimental value to everything,
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  Speaker 1: and I have to have her say like nope, bye bye.
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  Speaker 1: And something that we really concluded that I actually felt
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  Speaker 1: in my bones was like, Lauren, I'm going to obviously
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  Speaker 1: continue to wear crop tops. That's like my style. But
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  Speaker 1: I can't really wear bra lets anymore. Like I can't
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  Speaker 1: go out of the house where it's basically like not
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  Speaker 1: a crop top where it ends kind of like right
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  Speaker 1: above your belly button. Like I can't wear anything that
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  Speaker 1: that's a that's significantly above my belly button. Does that
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  Speaker 1: make sense? Can be showing my whole stomach anymore? You do?
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  Speaker 1: You girl? I don't know what you want to show
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  Speaker 1: that stomach off that stomach. Could I could, but then
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  Speaker 1: it's just like I'm not I'm not I'm not a child.
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  Speaker 1: These are decisions now that you have to think through.
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  Speaker 1: And uh well, Ashley, in all seriousness, happy birthday. You're
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  Speaker 1: somebody I love to celebrate. How did real quick? How
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  Speaker 1: did you celebrate it? Um? Well? On Friday, I went
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  Speaker 1: to dinner with Naz If you guys listened to the
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  Speaker 1: I Don't Get a podcast, she's my co host there
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  Speaker 1: and she is my best friend who I met as
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  Speaker 1: who was my producer on the Bachelor. And then we
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  Speaker 1: went down to Jade and Tanners for Saturday. We slept
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  Speaker 1: over there. It was the last time we get to
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  Speaker 1: we get to hang out with them as both California
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  Speaker 1: residents and then the following night we went out to
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  Speaker 1: dinner with Nick and Natalie, his girlfriend. So it was
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  Speaker 1: a nice set of friend dinners. That's really special, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's cool. Uh. And and this is just interesting, is
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  Speaker 1: all of these close friends are people you've met. Now
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  Speaker 1: you have great I've met your friends from The Bachelor. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and they're like real friends of yours who love you
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  Speaker 1: as a friend and love you as a person. Now
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  Speaker 1: you have great friends outside of the show. I've met
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  Speaker 1: them at your wedding and every place in life. But like,
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  Speaker 1: these are real friendships for you. I just did the
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  Speaker 1: I Don't Get a podcast a couple of weeks ago,
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  Speaker 1: and that is I'm not kidding, I'm it was one
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  Speaker 1: of the most fun on uh podcast I've ever done
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  Speaker 1: one because you girls really keep me on my toes
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  Speaker 1: um and to It's just it's fun to to get
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  Speaker 1: to talk to you all in this like really friendship environment.
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  Speaker 1: And I know that's what that podcast is. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: happy birthday. I hope you feel loved. I hope you
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  Speaker 1: feel celebrated. I do I very much too. I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's jump in now to the Fantasy Suite
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  Speaker 1: episode this week. Instead of running down the episode scene
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  Speaker 1: by scene like we often do today, I just kind
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  Speaker 1: of want to do big takeaways. I had three. Do
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  Speaker 1: you want me to list them? Or should we just
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  Speaker 1: go one by one? How many standout moments did you have? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if I looked at it
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  Speaker 1: that way. I'm happy you're doing it this way because
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  Speaker 1: I watched it more isn't in its entirety. I do
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  Speaker 1: want to start with one standout moment and then we'll
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  Speaker 1: go into yours and I'll just respond. But the first
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  Speaker 1: one I talk about is the conversation that I was
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  Speaker 1: not expecting, maybe because I haven't seen the previews. I
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  Speaker 1: really watched the previews recently, was with Matt and his father.
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  Speaker 1: When his father walked in. That was a shock to me.
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  Speaker 1: That's a big moment. Um. It's one that I it's
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I can say, if I should
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  Speaker 1: say it like this when I'm going to It was
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  Speaker 1: one of the most intimate scenes of the season and
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  Speaker 1: one of the most engaging scenes of this season. Not
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  Speaker 1: because of um, not because of the emotion behind but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: not because of hostility, just because of this was a
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  Speaker 1: one of those as we say often real life moments
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  Speaker 1: that will play huge impacts way past the show. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so let's break that down first, if you don't mind,
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  Speaker 1: because I knew want to spend some time on that,
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  Speaker 1: and then we can get into to your highlights from
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  Speaker 1: the days. Well that's of course a number can stand
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  Speaker 1: out moment for me. Okay, what were your thoughts? H
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  Speaker 1: I love seeing the development of it because his dad
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  Speaker 1: had a very natural defensive reaction at first, and then
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  Speaker 1: he really listened, he let it hit his heart what
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  Speaker 1: Matt was saying, and then he apologized and it was
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  Speaker 1: so sincere and I really do feel like they're going
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  Speaker 1: to have a better relationship here on out. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean it shows you know, Matt has always been a
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  Speaker 1: like a leader from the day one. You know, he
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  Speaker 1: stepped into the bachelor role and has kind of done
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  Speaker 1: a tremendous job at caring for the women and the
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  Speaker 1: women caring for him. And obviously I've always been a
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  Speaker 1: big fan of him. But in this scene, you really
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  Speaker 1: see if there's any doubt if Matt is ready for
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  Speaker 1: a long term commitment. I don't know if anybody was
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  Speaker 1: doubting that. I'm saying if there was any doubt. This
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  Speaker 1: scene was was my like concrete example of yes, he's
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  Speaker 1: ready because of how he navigated it. Like he navigated
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  Speaker 1: in a way it was like, I need to confront
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  Speaker 1: you on this. I'm not going to shy away from
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  Speaker 1: the conversation. I need you to talk about this with
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  Speaker 1: me now. Granted, was Matt's dream to do on national television,
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  Speaker 1: was his dad's dream of doing nice No, But as
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  Speaker 1: Matt kept saying, there hasn't been another moment that I
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  Speaker 1: can do this. This feels like the moment that I
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  Speaker 1: have to dad, and we did. We saw the arc
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  Speaker 1: of the confrontation to then the end, and the moment
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  Speaker 1: that said out to me was when they hugged each
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  Speaker 1: other and they did this thing that just shows the
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  Speaker 1: desire to love each other well is when Matt says
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  Speaker 1: I could still kick your ass in soccer and I
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't know. That's like a passing comment, but
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  Speaker 1: it's one that pulls back a memory. It's one that
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  Speaker 1: obviously connects them, and it's one that makes them both
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  Speaker 1: know like, hey, I've never forgotten about you. Mhmm. I
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  Speaker 1: totally agree. And if you guys didn't watch it, you
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  Speaker 1: know we talked about the the trajectory of this conversation.
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  Speaker 1: So first Matt's talking about how like, Dad, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: have you in my life, Like you weren't there for
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  Speaker 1: the big moments. You didn't show up for me. And
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  Speaker 1: then his dad says he, you know, I said, like
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  Speaker 1: he gets defensive. He says, you know, my dad was
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  Speaker 1: killed at five. I didn't have those things. Um, he
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  Speaker 1: just kind of was like I was there for you,
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  Speaker 1: like I showed up you know a time, or you know,
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  Speaker 1: i'd be there. We used to go and hang out,
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  Speaker 1: have pizza and stuff. And then Matt was like, no, Dad,
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  Speaker 1: like I don't want to be like you, Like I
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  Speaker 1: want to be there for all the moments, not just
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  Speaker 1: like these little show ups. And then, um, his dad,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he really just like he took it to
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  Speaker 1: Harvard and he said, like, I'm not perfect. We all
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  Speaker 1: make mistake, you know. He said I'm not perfect at first,
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  Speaker 1: and we're like, okay, dude, you better take more accountability
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  Speaker 1: than that, right, And he ends up doing so. And
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  Speaker 1: it was just really awesome. Especially thought that the guy
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  Speaker 1: was going to get a little bit irritated that Matt
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  Speaker 1: was doing it on TV. I thought he was going
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  Speaker 1: to have like a break moment where he was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I'm done with this? Not now? Why
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  Speaker 1: in front of the cameras. I was even thinking at
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  Speaker 1: a certain point they're like, oh, this is what Matt's
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  Speaker 1: going to be sitting on the curb really sad about.
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  Speaker 1: But then the dad surprises us all and he's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not proud of what I did. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: And you know he did. It was I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to say that it was impressive, but it was. It
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  Speaker 1: was like hopefully it was like something that makes you
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  Speaker 1: feel good about people. Yeah, he could have easily got
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  Speaker 1: up and walked away again, right, I mean that was
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  Speaker 1: what Matt was confronting him on was you've always walked
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  Speaker 1: away you you've never been there, and he's he sat
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  Speaker 1: in this even in a very uncomfortable situation. Now. It
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  Speaker 1: also reminded me. This taught me a big lesson is
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  Speaker 1: when you have a problem with somebody, confrontation is not
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  Speaker 1: a bad thing. Right to sit down with somebody one
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  Speaker 1: on one and say, hey, I don't appreciate the way
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  Speaker 1: you've treated me, I don't appreciate the way this is gone.
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  Speaker 1: But the ability to work through that confrontation. Uh, and
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  Speaker 1: then to hear the story of that, like that moment
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  Speaker 1: when his dad says, like, you do you even know
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  Speaker 1: that my dad died when he was five, when I
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  Speaker 1: was five. You don't know I body's story. Like there's
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  Speaker 1: a reason why, Um, you know this conversation was being
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  Speaker 1: had and why his dad was so you know, at
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  Speaker 1: first thrown off is because he's like, do you know
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  Speaker 1: what I've been through? And then it turns the corner
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  Speaker 1: and there's confrontation. Still, it exists throughout it to a
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  Speaker 1: point where at the end they go I'm sorry, and
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  Speaker 1: Matt can look at his dad to give him a
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  Speaker 1: hug and say like, I love you. This is a
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  Speaker 1: big deal and one that I hope, I hope builds
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  Speaker 1: a foundation for the both of them. Um. And you
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  Speaker 1: know his dad hinted at it, and we won't probably
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  Speaker 1: know this as fans, but he's like, I want to
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  Speaker 1: do better. I want to keep working at this. I
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  Speaker 1: don't I don't want this to be the end of this.
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  Speaker 1: That's special. That's a big moment. And then it carries
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  Speaker 1: through each of the dates he does. He wants to
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  Speaker 1: bring it up with each woman, each woman. Uh. Then responds,
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  Speaker 1: and he used to have those conversations. It has to be.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder we have to ask Matt when he comes
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  Speaker 1: on later. Um, but I wonder if for him it
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  Speaker 1: was at some level healing to have so many people
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  Speaker 1: that care about him so intimately there to to like
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  Speaker 1: get their perspective and talk to about it. Like I mean,
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  Speaker 1: when you have one person in your life, it's a
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  Speaker 1: great thing, right, But like when you have the ability
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  Speaker 1: every day to say, hey, this just happened to me
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  Speaker 1: and I just want you to know about it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure there's there is some type of like healing to
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  Speaker 1: that because you're you're able to talk about and here
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  Speaker 1: everybody's responses. Granted, I think the women responded perfectly. They
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  Speaker 1: didn't just respond in some fluffy way. They both dug
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  Speaker 1: into it with him. They told him who he was,
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  Speaker 1: they sat in it. They showed a lot of empathy,
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  Speaker 1: which is an incredible trait, especially on this show. Um,
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  Speaker 1: all right, so huge moment about the bat. What was
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  Speaker 1: your second highlight? Well, I mean it's really just Rachel's
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  Speaker 1: date and how he looks at her. I just feel
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  Speaker 1: like it's totally different than the other two. Well, now
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  Speaker 1: we know that bree was eliminated. So I think that
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  Speaker 1: it's different than when he talks to Michelle. He just
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  Speaker 1: is so engaged with what Rachel saying. Yeah, and it's
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  Speaker 1: you know, we lead into that date with Rachel being
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  Speaker 1: breaked out. Yeah, and like you can tell it's coming
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  Speaker 1: from a place of like, she just the doors this dude,
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  Speaker 1: and this is really hard for her to hear. And
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  Speaker 1: and luckily she didn't like hide it for too long.
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  Speaker 1: Uh do you mean, because I would maybe disagree with
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  Speaker 1: you a little bit and say I was actually thinking
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  Speaker 1: that Breeze day was the one that felt like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: they had the best connection during When did you feel
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  Speaker 1: bad when we point they're making breakfast the next morning?
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  Speaker 1: You were going to say that. That's why I asked.
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  Speaker 1: And that brings me to point number three about Rachel.
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  Speaker 1: Why did we go from fireworks out the window in
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  Speaker 1: the fantasy suite to straight into the rose ceremony? Both
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  Speaker 1: other girls, per usual, got that little scene in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: and I think the scene in the morning tells a
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  Speaker 1: lot about how the night went. We always know whether
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  Speaker 1: the night went well or when the night went sour. Ak.
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  Speaker 1: Remember when Tasia left Calton's room, we just knew we
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  Speaker 1: that scene is so telling, and yet they eliminated that
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  Speaker 1: with Rachel. Who knows why? My what's your instinct saying?
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  Speaker 1: My instinct says that it was actually so good, so strong,
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  Speaker 1: it would have been a dead giveaway and they couldn't
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  Speaker 1: have aired it interesting. Yes, it's weird. I even had
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  Speaker 1: to watch it back and go, did I miss this?
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  Speaker 1: Because we get that cut, you know, eat the early cut,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like starring, Yeah, did this get did
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  Speaker 1: this get the lead? Where it was that? And it
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  Speaker 1: just wasn't there? Uh so actuley, you know that's that's
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  Speaker 1: point number two, and then you know your third point
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  Speaker 1: was what No, My third point was why was that
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  Speaker 1: cut for Rachel? So let's just real quickly run through
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  Speaker 1: each date um date number one was Michelle, and you
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  Speaker 1: felt like you're just if you had to explain it,
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  Speaker 1: you felt like I felt like it was not that.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was the third of the three in
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  Speaker 1: terms of connection. I thought there was something good there.
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  Speaker 1: I thought they definitely enjoyed each other. I definitely put
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  Speaker 1: Brie above Michelle when I was watching it. If you
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  Speaker 1: take out the roads Soomney at the end. So I
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  Speaker 1: watched the episode. I'm within the past three hours and
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  Speaker 1: I literally just forgot for a second what they did
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  Speaker 1: on their date. So that's how little memorable it was.
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  Speaker 1: They went to the spa, remember they did the oatmeal
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  Speaker 1: baths like a Pennsylvania style spa, and they um And
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  Speaker 1: I think part of that is because it was the
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  Speaker 1: first day. Those dates always, you know, kind of get
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  Speaker 1: mixed up. And the second is it was almost covered
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  Speaker 1: up to me with the emotion that they've been doing
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  Speaker 1: for the past few seasons where all the people are
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  Speaker 1: in one room like it used to be, where you know,
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  Speaker 1: you'd have your overnight and you go back, you weren't
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  Speaker 1: with the other contestants once you got back. Now they
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  Speaker 1: love cind them all in the same room, which I
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  Speaker 1: still would. I mean, I've said every year, I think
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  Speaker 1: just think it's weird and unhealthy and really awkward to
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  Speaker 1: like so awkward. Yeah, and I don't know if it
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  Speaker 1: does a lot for me, And I think it honestly
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  Speaker 1: like hurts the relationships at some level because it just
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  Speaker 1: makes this whole thing even weirder' is like, oh, you
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  Speaker 1: just spent the night with my boyfriend and you're back
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  Speaker 1: and you're smiling and like this is weird, but but
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  Speaker 1: you're right. Like during Michelle's day, I was like still
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  Speaker 1: kind of getting over watching the dad conversation. And then
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  Speaker 1: the other standout moment is when she walks in to
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  Speaker 1: meet the other girls and the reaction that she gets
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  Speaker 1: there so before we bring on a really special guest
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  Speaker 1: and we're about to and she's going to be incredible. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you would say you weren't shocked by Breeze departure. No,
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  Speaker 1: not all. I felt Breeze departure coming for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: I do feel like there was like something like sexy
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  Speaker 1: intimate there with them, but I don't know, so like
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  Speaker 1: maybe there was they had it in that department, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that they they have it in like
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  Speaker 1: just the communication passion, like that that jive that you
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  Speaker 1: need to have, like that that banter back and forth
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  Speaker 1: like type of continuous conversation connection. Yeah, I felt the connection.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I was shocked. But then it leads us
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  Speaker 1: in the next week and we have to give give
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  Speaker 1: our assumptions here and we don't know any spoilers. But
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  Speaker 1: if I'm shocked brew at home because of Michelle's date
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  Speaker 1: felt like the third to me is there any I mean,
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  Speaker 1: is is she going to have that like secret like
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  Speaker 1: kind of like, oh my gosh, out of nowhere, Matt's
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  Speaker 1: like proposed to her. Do you think it's Rachel no
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  Speaker 1: matter what. I think it's Rachel no matter what. But
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  Speaker 1: I am still interested to see of course, Like I've
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  Speaker 1: been saying for weeks, why he's so upset sitting on
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  Speaker 1: the curb. Now it's seeming like it's a conversation that
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  Speaker 1: happens between him and his mom, and maybe his mom
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: doesn't think he should be getting engaged something like that.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Her mom, His mom seems definitely weary of marriage right
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: from like her for from her wounds. Uh. And then
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: it seems like there's like a day where he's supposed
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: to see the girls but then decides not to. So
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: that's pretty intense. But then again, this could all be
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: like fluff that they edit together in the preview to
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: make it seem like it's a bigger deal than it
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: really is. Yeah, and we'll never we'll never see it
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: on television like maybe he had e COLEI or something
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: like you did. Yeah, maybe he did get equally And
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: then he's crying, He's like, I just can't do anymore.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: This sucks. Um, all right, Ashley, let's take a break.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: When we come back, we're going to have one of
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: the most beloved contestants from this season on this podcast
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: we were so pumped for. Chelsea is going to be
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: joining us on the Almost Famous podcast. Alright, guys, we
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: are joined by one of our favorites, Chelsea Vaughan. You
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: know her from this season of the Bachelor. She left
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: two weeks ago. She's a twenty eight year old runway
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: model from Brooklyn, New York. K Chelsea, thanks for Hey guys,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: thanks for having me by the first one from my
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: season that thought. Yes, I'm so honored. We usually saved
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: the best for first, so uh yeah, Chelsea, this is
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: a big deal for us. We're huge fansy you. Um,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: We're very thankful you. Come on. I want to start
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: this by just saying this. We were shocked that you
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: went home, like absolutely shocked. To get this started, were
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: you shocked that you went home? Um? I mean, there
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: weren't that many people left. Was almost hometown the week
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: before I left, so I wasn't necessarily shocked, just because
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: everyone except for like me and Abigail and Justina had
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: had a one on one, so I knew at this
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: point he had stronger connections with people. Um, I was
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: hoping I'd get the one on one that week. I didn't,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: so that I was kind of like, oh, no, it
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: might be, it might be going. But what was weird
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: is that you had like such momentum going into that
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: and you know, you getting limited during that episode. Maybe
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: not maybe not weird, but I told you in d M,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I was like, you leave you at the beginning of
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: that episode of that first row ceremony seemed very weird
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: to me, just because you had three consecutive weeks where
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: you had very memorable conversations with Matt during the group dates.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Did you feel like you're gaining speed or losing speed
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: during that portion of the season. Honestly, I felt like
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I was losing speed a little bit, just because every
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: week I kept feeling like, Oh, this is my week,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I'm going to get the one on one this week,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: And I think I was just getting a little bit
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: discouraged because you can only learn and grow your relationships
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: so much in like ten or fifteen minutes at a
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: group day after party, and then there were so much
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: drama at the cocktail parties before the Rose ceremonies that
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: there were a few weeks in a row where I
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: didn't get the speed to Matt Um. So yeah, I
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: was just like a little bit discouraged. I always felt
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: better after I spoke to him, but at the time
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, the longer this one on
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: one takes, the more I feel like I might be
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: on the shopping block. You know, we saw a lot
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: of the like the drama at these cocktail parties happening
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: as viewers. For you, who was somebody that felt the
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: repercussions of that and didn't get to talk to Matt
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: What is your like mental space, Like, as you're sitting there,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: going another week another cocktail party, I don't get to
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: talk to him. Were you getting frustrated? Were you like hostile?
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Like what was what are you feeling? I was definitely
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: super frustrated towards the end, especially because I wasn't involved
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: in any of the drama. So I was just like,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: this is something I can't even control that's taking time
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: away for me every week. So that was just really
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: frustrating not being able to do anything about it. I
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: kind of just had to deal with it. Um. So, yeah,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: there were times when it was super hard to stay
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: hopeful and positive, Like there was a lot of time
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: when I was just like, I'm so over this. I
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: don't know what I'm doing here anymore. If I don't
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: get a date, like, I don't know what why I'm here.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Do you feel do you feel that there was too
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: much emphasis on drama and not enough of his romantic
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: connections this season when I was there or when watching back?
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I guess watching back, I definitely feel like, yes, there
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: was a lot of emphasis on drama, and I know
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: that there is every season, but it felt like there
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: was more this season. I don't know. Maybe that's just me. No, no, no,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: it's not just you. I think it's all of us.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: But it brings me to an interesting question. So we
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: haven't had anybody on yet that was in the house
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: at that time. You know, we have always talked about
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: how much fun it was at times to be living
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: in the house with all these people. Was was it
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: as difficult to be in that environment as what it
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: feels like as viewers? Do you feel like it was
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: contentious it? I think because there is so much emphasis
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: on the drama when it's airing that it feels like
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: it was just a hostile, terrible place to be because
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: that's all that's being shown, and then they're showing like
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: the interviews and what people are saying in there and
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: the private conversations that only two people had, whereas like
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: the other twenty eight of us were at the bar
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: taken tequila shots. So like, I think that it doesn't
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: feel like it looked on TV. I did have a
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: good time. I did enjoy getting to know these women
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: and bonding with him every day. Who are your closest
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: friends from the season, Piper, Abigail, and Bree. Okay, so,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Abigail has been on our list as like somebody we
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: really would love to see as the bachelorette, but rumors
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: are swirling that it's Katie. And during the Women Tell
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: All You, this is actually an email from a listener
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: a Women Tell All You were accusing Katie of stirring
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: things up. Uh, Katie said it was like when when
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Katie said all this, we were like, oh, Chelsea, like
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: it was Eatie a reason for drama or was she
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: helping prevent drama? You seem to have some opinions on that, so,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: so tell us about how you think Katie would do
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: as bachelorrette. I mean, I don't think she I think
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: she would do well as bachelor, and I think anybody
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: from my cast would. Um. I do think that she
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: stirred up drama. I said that on the show, and
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I stand by it. Um. I just felt like sometimes
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: it was unnecessary for her to insert her place herself
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: into places that I didn't necessarily think we're needed at
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: the time. UM, I definitely don't stand for bullying by
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: any means. I wasn't a part of any bullying. I
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: truly appreciate someone if they're going to go out of
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: their way to stand up for somebody, if they think, okay,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: this might ruin somebody's life. UM, and I think that's
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: what Katie thought she was doing at the time. UM.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean her and I just have different
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: opinion and some things, and that's cool. Um, I just
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily have done or said some of the things
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: that she did. Chelsey, why where, what where was your
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: decision making? I'm gonna say a headspace again, there's got
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: to be a better word for that. But when all
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: this was going on around you and you chose to
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: stay out of it, Like, why why were you choosing
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: to stay out of it. I was focused on myself
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: and my relationship with Matt. I was really only concerned
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: about how I was going to get more time to
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: talk to him, how I could get to know him better,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: and when I did get time, how I could maximize
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: that time. So I wasn't really concerned with other people
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: in general. That's just not really my style. I'm I
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: kind of stay out of things. I keep to myself.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I chill like you do you all do me Like?
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I was just not worried about the drama. Um yeah,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I mean I just I didn't want any part of it.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I was just it's hard enough being in the house
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: like isolated and like in this bubble, don't know anyone
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and you don't have your friends or your phone or anything.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: So I was like trying to focus on my mental
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: health and just getting to know Matt. So it wasn't
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: my priority. So you played a role at Women Tell All,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: But one of our headlines this week is that Heather
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: was there and played zero role. In fact, you basically
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: just like edited edited out of the background. Did she
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: have any significance there? Is there anything that we were
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: really missing from, Like, was that like something something discussed
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: how there's time there and how a lot of girls
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: had an issue with her showing up so late. I
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: don't know if I'm allowed to confirm or deny her
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: being there, but I mean you've seen in the picture there.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: You see you see a glimpse of her on screen.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: That's where we got the picture from, you know, the air.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: That is true. Um, it wasn't anything new. It was
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: kind of just like everyone. It just wasn't anything added
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: that you didn't see on the rosere Money that day. Okay, um, yeah,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: but there's a cool girl. I mean we we all
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: talked and hung out with her afterwards, and like she's chilling,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: cool girl. She was there for a couple of minutes
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: of the season and walked in kind of walked out. Now.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: So it's just like everything in life, we seem to
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: move on quickly in this franchise, So we gotta ask
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: you about your next steps. Is there any chance at
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: all possible that you will be on Bachelor in Paradise.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I mean there's always a chance. Would you be interested
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: in it? I don't know. I just have such mixed
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: feelings about the franchise at the moment, with everything happening
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: in Bachelor Nation, Like especially during my season, it's just
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: been so many things back to back to back and
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: it's a little bit exhausting right now. Um, I mean
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I would consider it. I just I want to see
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: some sort of changes, Like I want there to be
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: positive change in the franchise to people of color before
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I could commit to going on another season. What does
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: that look like for you? I mean, I don't think
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: real change is going to happen quickly. So that's why
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I'm like hesitant about Paradise because I don't know what
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: changes could happen in that quick turnaround of a time. Um,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think every department from top
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: to bottom needs to have diversity and people of color
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: in the room that are making decisions. It is, it's
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: it's crazy how fast right because I mean actually you'll know,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: but they'll start like filming for Paradise in what June July,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: and I believe they already left a film Bachelorette. Yeah,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: so like it all moves very fast. And as you said, Chelsea,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: like I mean nobody's nobody's naive to this, Like there's
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: huge changes that need to be made that should be
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: made conversations that should be started, and so it has
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: to happen fast. Yet it's interesting to hear as the
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: cast does get announced for Paradise, like people like you
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: who are wise and saying, hey, change doesn't happen quickly,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: but yet I want to see change before I can
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: enter back into it. And so it is gonna be
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: interesting to see how that's handled. Um, and you're kind
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: of saying, you know, you want to see top down
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: changes where people need to be in the room making decisions,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: people of color need to be represented, and that's a
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: hope that maybe then you would say, hey, I can
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: enter back into this world. Yeah, maybe I will tell
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: you this though, there is one guy from clear Tatious
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Seas that I have my eye on. I'm not gonna
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: says already dm in because it sounds like, you know,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: like you've already picked and you may be going after it.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Just the excitement I heard in your voice. Um, that's
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: all I'm gonna say. Can you give us no no
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: no no no no no no no, I don't I
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: don't uh up to us like slightly dig at it
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: was still um. She offered that up and then she
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: knew where she was going to leave it. She was
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: going to leave it right there. She was going to
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: take control here and say, there's a guy. And I'm
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: not telling you, um, okay, but what we can assume
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: is there might be somebody that you have your eye
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: on that you'd be excited to me. Uh. We don't
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: have to dig in if you've met him yet or not,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: but it'd be you would be excited to meet him
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: at some point on a in life at some level. Yes,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: we'll be watching. I'll be watching, very very exciting. You
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: were one of the girls. You were open with me
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: that part took in the writing of the joint statement
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: that the women of Matt Season put out a couple
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Can you talk about how that formed
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: and how you guys got together to write it. Yeah.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: So there's six women that wanted to just anonymous that
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: wrote it, but I was definitely obviously one of the
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: people that posted it. Um. So the six women are
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: women of color that decided to come up with and
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: write the statement, and then they thought about it and realized,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: you know, it would definitely be more powerful if our
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: entire cast um posted it and stood together, especially with
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: everything that happened this season with the druma and the
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: mean girls and like all this stuff. Um, we definitely
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: thought it'd be powerful if we all put all that
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: aside and said, you know, this is more important than
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: anything that happened on the show. UM, So yeah it was.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: It was super powerful. It was great to use our
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: voices and then the guys from last season also made
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: their own statements stood behind us and like I spoke
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: to Rachel Lindsay about it and she was really moved
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: by it. So it was just a beautiful moment. It
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: is and you know what you uh and along with others,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: UH really are going to be difference makers in this
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: franchise and lies moving forward and kind of as this,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: you know, as your time on the show ends and
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: you move into the world. Chelsea, I like to ask
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: every contestant this and if you could expand on a
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: little bit the y to it, Um, either way, are
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: you glad you did it? Are you glad you want
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: on the Bachelor? Yes? I absolutely have no regrets. Um,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I would have been like what if if I hadn't
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: gone on the show. Um, I met some amazing people
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: and I'm just all about experiences in life. So like,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I love to have the experience and I learned a
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: lot from it, and I think it's kind of been
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: life changing or will continue to be. UM, So I'm
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: definitely glad I went switching gears a little bit back
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: to Paradise. There are two female, two groups of females
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: competing for spots in Paradise, So it looks like Tasia
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: slash Clayre season will be the only group of males
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: this predominantly picked from for Paradise, right, But you girls,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: because of you know, they're not being a Paradise over
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: the summer. Means that Matt's girls and Peter's girls are
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: going to have to compete for spots in Paradise. Do
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: you have girls who are like really being honest about
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: the stress of getting a slot there? I mean, I
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: don't know if anyone's super stressed about it they secretly are.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Mary um, But I've talked to a couple of girls
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: from Peter season, Like they reached out to me and
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: like I asked them for advice and stuff before I
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: went or when I came back from the show, and
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: they're really sweet. So no clause have come out if
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: that's what you're asking Okay, No, that wasn't when I
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: was asking. I wasn't wondering if people were cognitively thinking
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: about that competition. It would be really cool, though. I like,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: publicly people are just arguing with each other. I want
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: to go awome, That's what I'm That would be a
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: good headline for the podcast. My last question for you,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Chelsea is you were very honest and vulnerable about your hair.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Can you talk about how many women reached out to
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: you and kind of said thank you for talking about
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: this on National TV? Afterwards? Um, an overwhelming amount of
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: women reached out to me, and that might honestly being
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: my favorite part of everything that's happened and going on
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: this show. Um, so many women, not even just black women,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: but all kinds of women reached out to say that
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: they felt seen and heard and they couldn't believe that
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: this conversation was happening on National TV and they saw
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: themselves in me, and it's just it's just so touching. UM,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just nice to hear people and
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, your inspiration to me, Like
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: people send me pictures of their classroom and be like
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: the girls in my class and showed them the clips
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: like they felt so inspired by you, and I'm just
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: I'm just flattered. Well, Chelsea, you belong in this moment.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: We were so excited to follow your journey. You are
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: an inspiration, there's no question about that. Um. Best of
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: luck as your life moves forward. If this show we're not,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: we're excited to fall along with you. Please don't be
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: a stranger to us. Uh, we like you a lot
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: and we'd like to have you guys time. Thanks guys,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: so nice to meet you. Thank you by Chelsea von
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: everybody that was She's just she's a special human UM
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: who's standing in a really special place right now with
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: the franchise, and uh yeah she is, and she's she's
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: somebody that we're going to cheer along. I would love
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: to see her in Paratise. I hope we can see
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: more of Chelsea. I felt like her time was short
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: and I just don't feel like we got to know
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: her as well as maybe we wanted to, based on
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: her not having a one on one day. I agree. Yeah, well, hey,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: actualistic or break here. When we come back, we're gonna
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: break down some bachelor headlines and there are a few
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: we'll be back with the almost in this podcasts. Alright, guys,
• 35:13
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  Speaker 1: we have some big headlines and none are smaller than
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  Speaker 1: this one. Everyone thinks Matt James and Heather Martin are
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  Speaker 1: dating Ashley? Why? Alright, alright, everyone is a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a of a stretch. Um, so are the reasoning
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  Speaker 1: behind these rumors? So as we talked with Chelsea about
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  Speaker 1: Heather was at Women Tell All, and yet she wasn't shown.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, it looked like she was actually like purposefully
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  Speaker 1: edited out of the rows of girls. Right, So some
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  Speaker 1: people are putting things together thinking that the reasons she
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  Speaker 1: was cut out was because she and Matt are secretly
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  Speaker 1: dating now And this is all because they both tagged
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  Speaker 1: that they were in San Clemente, California on the same day. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And he recently shouted out on his Instagram robe season
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  Speaker 1: while captioning a picture of him and bree Her in
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  Speaker 1: a robe. And the fact that Heather also recently spotted
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  Speaker 1: in a photo wearing a robe. That's how silly. This
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  Speaker 1: is literally robe season. Oh and then and and Heather
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  Speaker 1: wears robes and the two of them tagged the same location,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, within a similar with within a short time frame. Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: here's my only counter argument to this. And I have
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  Speaker 1: no clue but's sure or not. But I remember when
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  Speaker 1: there's a TikTok video that went viral talking about how
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  Speaker 1: Peter Webber and Kelly were dating. And we watched it
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  Speaker 1: and we broke it down the podcast and we said,
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  Speaker 1: there's no way, this is such a stretch, this is crazy,
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  Speaker 1: it's not happening. Well we were proven wrong because they
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  Speaker 1: came out dating. So these sleuthers, these investigators and Bachelation
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  Speaker 1: sometimes they're onto something. I'm not going to throw this
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  Speaker 1: rumor out. I would just be shocked once again. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I would be shocked too. But to draw another parallel
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  Speaker 1: between Peter and Kelly and Heather and Matt. Do you
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  Speaker 1: remember how Kelly didn't go to the Women Tell All
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  Speaker 1: and that was such a red flag to people. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Heather was added out of the Women Tell All. So
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  Speaker 1: there you go. There's a big, big things happening in
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation. Well, uh you know this list. Last week
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  Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and I believe it's his first TV appearance
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  Speaker 1: since his time on Extra with Rachel Lindsay. He came
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  Speaker 1: on Good Morning America to speak with Michael Strahand and
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  Speaker 1: the headline read, uh this according to a Good Morning America.
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  Speaker 1: Chris Harrison speaks out after stepping away from the Bachelor.
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  Speaker 1: His quote is I stand against all forms of racism.
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  Speaker 1: M He says, I'm an imperfect man. I made a mistake,
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  Speaker 1: and I own that. I believe that mistake doesn't reflect
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  Speaker 1: who I am or what I stand for. I'm committed
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  Speaker 1: to progress, not just for myself, but also for the franchise.
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  Speaker 1: And this is a franchise has been part of my
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  Speaker 1: life for the better part of twenty years, and I
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  Speaker 1: love it. I'm saddened and shocked at how insensitive I
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  Speaker 1: was in that interview with Rachel Lindsay. I can't believe
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  Speaker 1: I didn't speak against antebellum parties what they stand for.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't say it then and I want to say
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  Speaker 1: it now. Those parties are not okay, past, present and future.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't speak from my heart, and that is to
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  Speaker 1: say that I stand against all forms of racism. I'm
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  Speaker 1: deeply sorry to Rachel Lindsay and to the Black community,
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  Speaker 1: to anyone who is throwing hate towards Rachel Lindsay. It's unacceptable.
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  Speaker 1: He says. I saw out leading scholars, teachers, faith leaders,
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  Speaker 1: people like Dr Michael Eric Dyson, who I am so
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  Speaker 1: grateful for, and I've been working closely with a race
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  Speaker 1: educator and strategists. I thank them all, he says. But
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  Speaker 1: Dr Dyson often talks to me about counsel, not cancel,
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  Speaker 1: and that is full accountability, understanding what you didn't understand,
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  Speaker 1: owning that, learning from that, seeking counsel often in the
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  Speaker 1: community that you hurt, learning from them, listening, gainea experience, knowledge,
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  Speaker 1: and moving forward well. Rachel Lindsay uh is quoted in
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  Speaker 1: People this week, and the headline reads this, Rachel Lindsay
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  Speaker 1: says she accepts Bachelor host Chris Harrison's apology. We need
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  Speaker 1: to move forward. Rachel says she sat down with Billy
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  Speaker 1: Bush and just had a convo on Extra this week
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  Speaker 1: where she said, I do accept the apology, and I
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  Speaker 1: think it's important for me to say that because I
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  Speaker 1: haven't really talked about, you know, Chris and the statement,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm not trying to make this a Chris versus
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  Speaker 1: Rachel thing, but but the fact that once again, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't the first time he's apologized to me. He
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  Speaker 1: apologized again on Good Morning America. And I do accept that,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's important for me to say that
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  Speaker 1: because we need to move forward, and for me, for
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  Speaker 1: us to move forward, I need to accept the apology
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  Speaker 1: so we can all be better from the situation, which
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  Speaker 1: is what we want uh. Well, after if anybody doesn't
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  Speaker 1: know this, Rachel Lindsay received some uh maybe let's say
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  Speaker 1: harsh and a lot of bowling on Instagram, and she
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  Speaker 1: stepped away from Instagram uh a few weeks ago to
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  Speaker 1: to get herself healthy and to kind of separate from
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  Speaker 1: just the consistent negativity that was unwarranted. Well, according to people,
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  Speaker 1: Rachel Lindsay returns to Instagram with empowering message about spreading
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  Speaker 1: good vibes only. M hmm, so her caption was just
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  Speaker 1: good vibes only under some sunflowers. She says, I want
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  Speaker 1: to be like a sunflower, so that even on the
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  Speaker 1: darkest days, I will stand tall and find sunlight. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we uh were, you know, completely supporting the continued progress
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  Speaker 1: here that the Bachelor, uh in, Bachelorette and really all
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  Speaker 1: of bachel Nation has as they continue to seek council
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  Speaker 1: to learn and to grow. Uh. But in the midst
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  Speaker 1: of all of this, there's some other headlines that have
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  Speaker 1: kind of uh came up through the surface, and this
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  Speaker 1: one reads Bachelor's Taylor Nolan maybe investigated by Department of
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  Speaker 1: Health over offensive tweets. This according to US Weekly, mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: This It says this week, we've um. This is from
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  Speaker 1: the Department of Health in Washington State, says this week,
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  Speaker 1: we've received multiple complaints against Nolan and connection with the
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  Speaker 1: issues that you mentioned. This is the spokesperson Um. They said,
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  Speaker 1: those complaints are under assessment. Patient safety is our top
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  Speaker 1: prior already, and we take all complaints seriously. He also
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  Speaker 1: says that not all complaints lead us to opening cases.
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  Speaker 1: Each complaint individually. Um. They take each complaint individually and
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  Speaker 1: evaluate it on its merits. He said, this is in
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  Speaker 1: its early stages and we can't predict what the result
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  Speaker 1: will be. Switching gears just a bit. Bachelorette's Garrett uh
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  Speaker 1: your Goren uh answers fans burning questions about Becca kouffern
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  Speaker 1: split six months later, This according to US Weekly as
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  Speaker 1: well Good Jobs, saying his name probably just Um. He
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  Speaker 1: says that he constantly gets asked the question what led
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  Speaker 1: to the breakup. He said, I know, I know most
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  Speaker 1: of my supporters are viewers of the show, and that
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  Speaker 1: they are the main base of my platform. I understand
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  Speaker 1: everyone wanting to know exactly what happened because you feel
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  Speaker 1: so invested into our lives and relationships. I truly don't
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  Speaker 1: want to be known for the show. It's not what
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  Speaker 1: defines me or my character. He said that it was
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  Speaker 1: a miracle that he even got selected for the dating
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  Speaker 1: show and that he um and that he wouldn't be
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: doing these question responses if it weren't for that he's
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: talking about like on Instagram, but pretty much doesn't really say.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't really answer the question, you know. He's basically like,
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  Speaker 1: I know, I get these questions. I understand why you
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  Speaker 1: guys send me these questions, but just like not going
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  Speaker 1: to give like a straight answer as to what happened.
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  Speaker 1: What happened. But he is dating someone else now. Her
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  Speaker 1: name is Alex. He says, I've met an incredible person
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  Speaker 1: who supports me my goals and makes me very happy. Um.
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  Speaker 1: He said that it was a rough few months getting
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: over the breakup with Becca. He said it ended in
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  Speaker 1: my heart and mind once I weighed every outcome solution,
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  Speaker 1: what if, talked it out practicality, It's completely It was
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  Speaker 1: just completely done for me and no going back. Life
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  Speaker 1: is too short to dwindle well. Speaking of question and answers,
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  Speaker 1: Hannah Brown discusses loving relationship with boyfriend Adam Lullard and
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  Speaker 1: Q and a quote is he's more romantic this according
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  Speaker 1: to people. Okay, Yeah, these q and as on Instagram
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  Speaker 1: are giving us a lot of dirts. People are telling
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  Speaker 1: us all their stuff on it. It's kind of fun.
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  Speaker 1: Hannah revealed on it that she liked Adam, her boyfriend's photo,
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  Speaker 1: first on a dating app and then he made the
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  Speaker 1: actual first move. But she said that every day with
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  Speaker 1: him is so great. He's just awesome. She said, I'm
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  Speaker 1: telling y'all, he's the nicest person I've ever met. What
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  Speaker 1: a headline list it is. We have some loveliest some
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  Speaker 1: Q and a's uh Ashley. That's all we've got today
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  Speaker 1: for the Almost Famous podcast. It was a great episode
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  Speaker 1: of The Bachelor. I would give it. We gotta rank it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a uh an eight point seven.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to stick with a night yeah, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna give matt An a again. I'm excited for next week.
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  Speaker 1: This was a compelling episode that I was tuned into
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  Speaker 1: the whole time. Uh agree for far more invested this
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  Speaker 1: week than I have been for a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 1: And it was nice. Definitely. Well, hey, we want to
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  Speaker 1: thank Chelsea for coming on the podcast today. Uh, we
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  Speaker 1: really appreciate her given up the time. Will continue to
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: stay in touch with everything going on in the Bachelor, Bachelorette,
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise, all these little spinoff shows that are happening.
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  Speaker 1: But before we do, one last time, Happy Birthday Week,
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  Speaker 1: Ashley I ken Eddie. We are celebrating you. We will
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