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Kyle wants to talk WILDFLOWERING · Johnjay & Rich On Demand

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  Speaker 1: John Jay and Rich. We are like a whole vibe.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's really silly how everything in dating has
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  Speaker 2: to have a term, right?
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  Speaker 3: There's a term for everything now.
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  Speaker 2: And this is kind of like the anti-term term in dating.
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  Speaker 2: So there's something called wildflowering that like Vogue and relationship
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  Speaker 2: experts have been like starting to write about called wildflowering.
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  Speaker 2: So this is where people intentionally let a relationship grow
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  Speaker 2: slowly without immediately forcing labels, timeliness, or like a where
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  Speaker 2: is this going conversation.
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  Speaker 1: You mean like responsible dating? Yeah. Well, just sort of like.
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  Speaker 3: Letting things naturally bloom.
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  Speaker 2: Like think about it as wildflowers just naturally bloom on
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  Speaker 2: their own. And that's like what they want for the relationship.
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  Speaker 2: Other than like two, three weeks in going, so what
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  Speaker 2: are we?
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  Speaker 3: What are we doing here? Like what are we trying
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  Speaker 3: to do?
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  Speaker 1: What's happening? The DTR, Kyle. Determine the relationship.
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  Speaker 2: But I think the only problem with wildflowering is, is
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  Speaker 2: that some people.
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  Speaker 3: have to figure out where you're going.
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  Speaker 2: So then it creates the how soon is too soon.
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  Speaker 3: For different milestones in the relationship. At what point does
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  Speaker 3: the wildflowering need to become labels, right?
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  Speaker 2: So the discussion is how soon is too soon for
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  Speaker 2: the following things? Like how soon is too soon then
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  Speaker 2: to make things exclusive?
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  Speaker 1: Three months.
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  Speaker 4: Way soon.
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  Speaker 3: Way soon?
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  Speaker 1: Too soon. How soon is too soon?
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  Speaker 2: Three months is too soon to determine the relationship?
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  Speaker 1: To be exclusive, it's too soon. To be exclusive? No
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  Speaker 1: matter what the time is. I just feel like it's.
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  Speaker 5: Different because everyone moves at different speeds.
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  Speaker 2: But I think it would be like, too soon for
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  Speaker 2: me would be like second date.
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  Speaker 3: Like, dude, whoa. Breathe a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: First date or anything before second date.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of months of dating because you might not
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  Speaker 1: see each other every weekend.
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  Speaker 3: I would say maybe like six weeks. Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 3: that anything before six weeks, just leave it alone. Let
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  Speaker 3: it wildflower and bloom.
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  Speaker 4: Even putting a time frame on it seems like you're
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  Speaker 4: breaking the wildflowering rules.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what they're saying.
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  Speaker 2: It becomes difficult because then at one point, are you
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  Speaker 2: just wildflowering forever? Like you have to have these conversations
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  Speaker 2: at some point.
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  Speaker 4: Remember it used to be, I think it was like
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  Speaker 4: three dates before a kiss or three days before you
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  Speaker 4: call back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 4: Three days. When you're a guy and you go out
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  Speaker 4: with a girl, you don't call her for three days.
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  Speaker 4: Like instead, you know, there's these silly rules, but yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you're right. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: What else?
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  Speaker 3: So how soon is too soon to meet the parents?
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  Speaker 1: Way soon.
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  Speaker 4: I went out with this girl one time and she
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  Speaker 4: was a cheerleader and she, we went on a date
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  Speaker 4: and the next day she's like, Hey, are you going
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  Speaker 4: to come to the game on Friday? My parents are coming.
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  Speaker 4: I want to meet my parents.
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  Speaker 1: Whoa!
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  Speaker 5: Freeze!
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  Speaker 2: No! See, I kind of feel like that one should
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  Speaker 2: go in tandem with the first one.
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  Speaker 3: Like, you shouldn't meet the parents before you're exclusive. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's fair. I feel like there's kind of like maybe.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to want to know things. They're going to
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  Speaker 1: ask you questions.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe not an.
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  Speaker 2: Exact timeline, like three weeks, whatever. But like you should
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  Speaker 2: definitely be exclusive at the point. Because I went on
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  Speaker 2: a first date with a guy and his parents, like
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  Speaker 2: we went to dinner with his parents. And I was like,
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  Speaker 2: this feels too soon.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's too soon.
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  Speaker 5: Holy smokes. I feel like when I was in high school,
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  Speaker 5: I would never bring a guy around for like at
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  Speaker 5: least like a year.
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  Speaker 1: A year?
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  Speaker 5: Now as I've gotten as older, I think it probably
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  Speaker 5: took like four or five months to. before my parents
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  Speaker 5: met my husband, Kadeem.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm sure it kind of depends on your family too, right?
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  Speaker 2: Like if you're close with your family, they're probably going
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  Speaker 2: to meet.
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  Speaker 3: The significant other sooner.
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  Speaker 2: So how soon is too soon to post them on Instagram?
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  Speaker 2: When do you go Instagram official?
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  Speaker 4: Are you talking about stories?
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  Speaker 1: Like you're on a date?
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  Speaker 4: Put it on stories?
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  Speaker 1: Either way.
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  Speaker 3: Because like the stories would be the soft launch, right?
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  Speaker 2: And your feed post would be the hard launch.
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  Speaker 5: It depends how much I like you. Like truthfully, like
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  Speaker 5: if I have to convince myself that I'm in.
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  Speaker 3: It, it's probably going to take a little bit longer
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  Speaker 3: for you.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that's a gut check for you if you're into
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  Speaker 1: posting it or not.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah these are fun types of things i wish i
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  Speaker 4: wish that uh i wasn't yet just celebrating my anniversary
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  Speaker 4: it'd be kind of fun to be on to be
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  Speaker 4: single dating right now if i was a single guy
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  Speaker 4: on the show i could say kyle you know i'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna try these out this weekend i'll.
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  Speaker 6: Let you know you would hate you would literally hate
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  Speaker 6: dating nowadays no i would love this because it's rough
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  Speaker 6: out there like sending john jay out because like the
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  Speaker 6: next one is like how soon is too soon to
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  Speaker 6: like leave.
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  Speaker 2: Clothes or a toothbrush at their house and i would
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  Speaker 2: just be like john jay your assignment this weekend is
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  Speaker 2: to be like can i have your toothbrush the first
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  Speaker 2: time Just to see the reaction.
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  Speaker 1: It's never too soon if it's me.
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  Speaker 3: For them, you're not leaving your stuff at my house.
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  Speaker 2: I guess you would have to at least be like,
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  Speaker 2: this is 100% a recurring thing.
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  Speaker 5: If I'm leaving my toothbrush at your house, it's because
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  Speaker 5: I'm marking my territory.
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  Speaker 1: But if they ask to leave their toothbrush at your house,
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  Speaker 1: back off. I need my privacy.
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  Speaker 2: And then the last one is, which one should come first?
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  Speaker 2: You should say, I love you, or share your location.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I'm sharing my location before I tell you I
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  Speaker 5: love you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'd go I love you way before
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  Speaker 1: sharing the location. Same. I don't like the surveillance.
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  Speaker 2: You're not getting that location unless I love you.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're going to be married before that happens.
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  Speaker 4: I have one answer for both those is I don't
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  Speaker 4: know how.
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  Speaker 3: You don't know how to love?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how to love. I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: to share my location.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I would say.
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  Speaker 5: Let's share locations, John Jay, right now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to request it indefinitely.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to keep tabs on you.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead. All right.
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  Speaker 4: If you've got any more wildflowering you want to add
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  Speaker 4: to this list, text JJR96893.