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  Speaker 1: To ask about this and other things around Major League Baseball.
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  Speaker 1: We're joined by Bob Nightingale, senior columnists for the sport
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  Speaker 1: for USA Today.
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  Speaker 2: He's been covering it for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: He and I covered the America League West together back
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  Speaker 1: in the early two thousand when I was covering the
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  Speaker 1: A's for the secondment will.
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  Speaker 2: Be and Bob Knight now joined us right now in
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  Speaker 2: the Beacon Plumbing Highline. Hello, sir.
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  Speaker 1: And Greg, I have been well, how have you been
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  Speaker 1: in this new season and where are your travels taking
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  Speaker 1: here lately?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? Pretty much out West and only a couple of
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  Speaker 3: times San Francisco, about to go to Chicago and might
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  Speaker 3: do the Vegas Series two coming up once the A's
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  Speaker 3: and Brewers.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so let me ask you about this piggybacking the
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  Speaker 1: Mariners are doing with Castilla, at least Castillo and Bryce Miller.
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  Speaker 2: They have six healthy starters.
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  Speaker 1: They're trying to do it in five spots by putting
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  Speaker 1: Miller in Castillo, by pitching him on the same day
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  Speaker 1: and alternating who starts who relieves. Have you ever seen
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  Speaker 1: that is done successfully or otherwise in Major League Baseball?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's been, It's been done yeah, you see it
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  Speaker 3: more in spring training actually than the regular season. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean that's a you know, pretty miss extended version
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  Speaker 3: of the opener when a guy goes win or two
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  Speaker 3: winnings and a guy comes comes in. You know, we
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  Speaker 3: see that a lot, but we don't really see it
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  Speaker 3: with two veteran pitchers like this, particularly in Castillo's thing.
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  Speaker 3: So you can create, you know, ruffle some feathers and hey,
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  Speaker 3: when you know, despite what people say, wins mean a
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  Speaker 3: lot to where stars and for Castillo, you know, Crew
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  Speaker 3: is along and about to get a win to his
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  Speaker 3: career total. And how that taken away, you know, give
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  Speaker 3: me very frustrating.
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  Speaker 1: Do you see this as sustainable between these two guys
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  Speaker 1: that results say the same and or could you see
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  Speaker 1: they have to make a change and can't let Kestillo
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  Speaker 1: at his status at thirty four, three time All Star,
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  Speaker 1: twenty four million dollars pitcher, he's they're going to have
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  Speaker 1: to do something with him, either start him or try
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  Speaker 1: to trade him, or what would they would do with him?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you got to do either, you know,
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  Speaker 3: start her and trade him or you say, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: you're a long man in a bullpen. You know, the
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  Speaker 3: Damacs just did that with Brandon Fott and then he's
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  Speaker 3: been a regular in the rotation. Me is a lanket,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, he's not better than the other five guys.
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  Speaker 3: And I think you know, with Castillo's saying, they may
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  Speaker 3: tell him, hey, pitch better and we'll not someone else
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  Speaker 3: to the bullpen. But you're our guy for now. You
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  Speaker 3: hate to You hate to trade him just because something
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  Speaker 3: always happens to pitchers. You know, someone can go, someone's
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  Speaker 3: gonna start struggling, someone can get hurt. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's not like you can move that contract anyway. You'll
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  Speaker 3: be giving them away, and you know they certainly don't
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  Speaker 3: want to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Bob Nightingale, senior columnists in Major League Baseball for USA,
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  Speaker 1: joining us on the Beacon Plumbing hotline. Sir, what is
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  Speaker 1: surprised you, Bob about the early season? Players or disappointments
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  Speaker 1: are surprised or maybe teams and and you look at
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  Speaker 1: the American League and the Rays have really jumped out
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  Speaker 1: in the American League East, but that's out of it.
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  Speaker 1: The Cleveland's gotten hot lately. The Yankees have been there
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  Speaker 1: since the start of the season. Now the Rays have
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  Speaker 1: overtaken him, but the rest of America League has been
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  Speaker 1: very mediocre. And then in the National League Dodgers, Padrey
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  Speaker 1: is trying to keep pace with the Dodgers again, and
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  Speaker 1: now the Cubs are reeling. I don't know how much
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  Speaker 1: you've looked into the ten game losing streak for the Cubs,
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  Speaker 1: but what if you say, is still at the most
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  Speaker 1: of you for two months into the season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, on the on the positive side, it
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  Speaker 3: certainly the Rays and Saint Louis Cardinals and the Cordinals
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  Speaker 3: are in a full scale rebuild. I mean game away
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  Speaker 3: guys and wayland Own Sun and Gray and uh, you
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  Speaker 3: know Donovan. Uh, you know they trade a him at
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  Speaker 3: least to get someone back return. So you know, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know how long it will last for Saint Louis,
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  Speaker 3: but been a huge, huge surprise, and then the flip
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  Speaker 3: in I think, you know, the big storylines have just
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  Speaker 3: been how bad the mess have been with the biggest
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  Speaker 3: payroll in baseball, and how bad the Tigers have been.
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  Speaker 3: The Tiger's been so bad, you know that when Scuba
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  Speaker 3: does come off the Angel list, they're gonna have no
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  Speaker 3: choice but to trade them in. Uh. And he'll be
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  Speaker 3: one of the most you know, coveted guys in the
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  Speaker 3: trade deadline, simply maybe going back to c c Sybatthew days,
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  Speaker 3: going to Washing Brewers.
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  Speaker 4: Bob, what struggling contender do you think is most likely
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  Speaker 4: to turn their season around in the second half and why?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I certainly think Seattle turns it on and they
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  Speaker 3: just have too much talent, too much pitching. I think
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  Speaker 3: they pull away from the the A's. You know, Texas
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  Speaker 3: has been a big disappointment. Uh. Yeah, I thought it'd
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  Speaker 3: be kind of a showdown between the Rangers and Mariners.
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  Speaker 3: So I still think the Mariners, you know, pull this out.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see if the Rangers getting better. But I think
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  Speaker 3: it's you know, I just think the A's are one
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  Speaker 3: year away. Uh. I think in the Al Central, I
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  Speaker 3: think that thing's over. I think Cleveland wins it. I
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  Speaker 3: still think the uh you know, Rays aren't give me
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  Speaker 3: aggressive the trade deadline. You know, the Yankees will be
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  Speaker 3: and then the uh you know, nationally West, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Dodgers again, the Potters are playing over their heads for
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  Speaker 3: a long time. You know, Diamondbacks are playing a lot
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  Speaker 3: better now, but yet you know, they played the thirteenth
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  Speaker 3: straight games now against the Giants and Rockies. So just
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  Speaker 3: you know, beating up to the worst teams and to
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  Speaker 3: the worst teams in baseball, you know, the Brewers. You know,
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  Speaker 3: every year everybody picks the Cubs win that thing, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and every year the Brewers brus get the last laugh. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: In Atlanta's back to being Atlanta again. I mean a
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  Speaker 3: powerhouse in Atlanta, maybe the best team in baseball.
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  Speaker 4: From your conversations with folks around the league, do the
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  Speaker 4: Settle Manners still have the reputation of that legitimate contender
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  Speaker 4: or are some executives starting to question whether this core
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  Speaker 4: can actually break through?
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  Speaker 3: Well? Yeah, I mean at least you know last year,
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  Speaker 3: you know, gaming hope, like okay, one game away from
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  Speaker 3: the uh games of.
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  Speaker 2: The World Series.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, you know, they do have the same you know,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of guys at the same position, you know,
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  Speaker 3: say right field and stuff. You don't need that you know,
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  Speaker 3: many guys. Uh, so you know, everybody needs bats. It
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  Speaker 3: seems like so I think at some point they you know,
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  Speaker 3: trade away one or two of those guys the trade deadline,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and get what they really want.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: They could certainly use another back end closer to go
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  Speaker 3: with you knows, uh that way you can you know
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  Speaker 3: mix a match you know back there and uh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: right now on paper, and you would say the Yankees
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  Speaker 3: are you know, the heavy favorite to get to World
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  Speaker 3: Series the American League. Uh, you know they got raised
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  Speaker 3: in Cleveland and Seattle, so probably put Le's chances that
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  Speaker 3: you know, fourth at this juncture. But with their with
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  Speaker 3: their starting rotation, you know they can they can scare
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  Speaker 3: anybody to come postseason.
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  Speaker 1: Is Bob Nightingale, Senior Baseball call Major League Baseball commiss
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  Speaker 1: for the US today joining us in the Beacon plumbing hogh,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go back to Terrek Scrubel.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned the Tigers twenty one and thirty four.
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  Speaker 1: That's nine out of ten, ten games back of the
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  Speaker 1: Guardians who've caught fire in the Central. You've already declared
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  Speaker 1: the Guardians that race is over in the Central. And
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  Speaker 1: you said when Scruble comes back, it sounds like sooner
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  Speaker 1: than anticipated that they're gonna have to trade him. And
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  Speaker 1: that's from you knowing that his contract was just for
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  Speaker 1: one year, the thirty record thirty two million dollar arbitration
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  Speaker 1: that he won the former Seattle U star Terrek Scrubele is,
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  Speaker 1: do you think that's the only alternative for the Tigers.
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  Speaker 1: You don't see him resigning in Detroit, and you don't
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  Speaker 1: see the Tigers making any kind of return to where
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  Speaker 1: they were last year to get it even close to Cleveland.
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  Speaker 1: You think it's a FATA complete that Scooble gets traded.
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  Speaker 3: I do. I just you know, they've been playing so bad,
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  Speaker 3: and Casey Maiz has been fine in the rotation, but
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  Speaker 3: Jack Flaherty has struggled, and so as the restaurant rotation.
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  Speaker 3: Berl Anderslan made one start. So no, I think they're
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  Speaker 3: gonna have to face the reality here. And uh, you
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  Speaker 3: know they're going to have to have him start a
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  Speaker 3: few times for every to watch him. I'm sure they'll
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  Speaker 3: be very careful, you know, keeping his workload down, you know,
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  Speaker 3: maybe starting you know fournings at the time, five innings
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  Speaker 3: here and there, that that sort of thing. But no,
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  Speaker 3: I think they get recoup anything. You know, they got
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  Speaker 3: to move Schooba. Remember when they gave him that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: when he lost the or when the Tigers lost the
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  Speaker 3: arbitration hearing. You'll never once they make a counter offer.
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  Speaker 3: They haven't tried to resign him to a to an
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  Speaker 3: extension in more than two years, so I think they
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  Speaker 3: know that there's zero chance of them retaining him.
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  Speaker 2: What kind of haul would Terrek Scouble get in a
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  Speaker 2: July trade deadline deal?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they got to get least, you know,
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  Speaker 3: probably two of a team's top fifteen prospects and you
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  Speaker 3: know a third guy along the way. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 3: just a uh, you know, probably a pure rental and
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  Speaker 3: uh and you know you're getting him pretty much for
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  Speaker 3: the for the postseason. So okay, we'll have this guy
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  Speaker 3: in the top of the rotation. So you can see
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  Speaker 3: teams like the uh, you know, the Yankees and Blue Jays, Dodgers,
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  Speaker 3: Podreys are the four teams that that stand out you
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  Speaker 3: talk to different teams that would probably be the most
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  Speaker 3: aggressive trying to get them. The Pods, you know, new ownerships,
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  Speaker 3: you know they'll they're only take on their money. But
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  Speaker 3: the Padres just hardly have any prospects left from all
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  Speaker 3: the moves they made.
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  Speaker 2: Hmmm, that's something to watch. Trek Scoogle.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see when he gets back, first of all, if
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  Speaker 1: he gets back, and how he plays after that. Bob Night,
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  Speaker 1: Noil USA today joining us in the Beacon Plumbing hotline
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  Speaker 1: here in ninety three point three KJR FM Sarry, you've
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  Speaker 1: covered ball for day or two. What do you think
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  Speaker 1: of the ABS pitch challenging system?
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  Speaker 3: Do you like it?
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  Speaker 2: Does it worked better worse than you thought? What do
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  Speaker 2: you think of it?
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  Speaker 3: It's probably I thought. The only thing at all like
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  Speaker 3: is you know, the uh. I think they should have
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  Speaker 3: some kind of buffer zone in there. I mean, some
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  Speaker 3: of these pitches are you know, missing like a uh
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  Speaker 3: you know, harnt of an inch like you like really
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  Speaker 3: and you know, overturned the same as the son misses
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  Speaker 3: by you know, uh, you know, three or four inches. So,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, the crowd seems to like it. I
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  Speaker 3: like having just too.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: You know, for a team, you got use some strategy
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  Speaker 3: behind it.
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  Speaker 2: I used to, don't.
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  Speaker 3: I just hope they don't go to a full ABS system,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm sure it's going to come one day. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I still have to have the human elements in the game,
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  Speaker 3: but it's a uh yeah, it's good, particularly for late innings. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, making sure that the call the calls are right.
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  Speaker 3: The umpires want to make sure the calls are right too,
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  Speaker 3: so I think we'll see less challenges as the season
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  Speaker 3: goes on because his umpires are going to use to
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  Speaker 3: the new strike zone.
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  Speaker 4: I'm curious on Dan Wilson, as you can imagine, he's
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  Speaker 4: been getting a lot of discourse, as I'll say, around
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  Speaker 4: the team. What's the league wide perception of Dan Wilson
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  Speaker 4: so far these in the first two months of the season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, not much discussion on him. I mean
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  Speaker 3: obviously a h you know, you know, a rookie, rookie
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  Speaker 3: type manager and uh, you know, did did well last year,
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  Speaker 3: so people, uh do'll give them a lot of credit
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  Speaker 3: for that. But you know, like these piggyback things and
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  Speaker 3: things like that, you know, that's all done by the
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  Speaker 3: uh you know, front office and collaboration with everybody else.
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  Speaker 3: So it's not like, you know, he's the one, you know,
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  Speaker 3: just just setting this on his own, you know, even
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  Speaker 3: lineups it's like, you know, done with a lot of input.
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  Speaker 3: And that's that's not just Seattle, that's that's everywhere.
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  Speaker 4: And how much responsibility should Dan Wilson get realistically for
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  Speaker 4: the Mariners offensive inconsistencies versus the actual player talent.
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  Speaker 3: Well then you probably you know more more responsibility or
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  Speaker 3: blame on the hitting coaches that are working with those guys. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you see all the time. I mean, here's
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  Speaker 3: a you know, Cubs going through ten game losing streak.
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  Speaker 3: You know they're hitting like one twenty with runs a
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  Speaker 3: screen position. It's not the hitting coaches at the play,
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  Speaker 3: that's the players. So I mean sometimes just a new
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  Speaker 3: boy East helps, but you know it's usually not, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's not the managers. It's more one of the coaches
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  Speaker 3: on that staff. Don't shake, you know, shake things up.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned Trek Scruble, the potential of him being on
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  Speaker 1: the trade market if he does come back from his
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  Speaker 1: surgery and pitch as well for the Tigers that are
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  Speaker 1: seemingly out of it at the bottom of the American etcentral, Bob,
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  Speaker 1: who else would be the prime catches in a July
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  Speaker 1: trade market? Who do you expect to be become available?
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  Speaker 1: And you know Jerry Depoto and the Mariners they are involved.
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  Speaker 1: Say what you will, but they get Randy or Rose Arena,
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  Speaker 1: Luis Castillo, they make deals in July. Who do you
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  Speaker 1: think they could have their eyes on and who might
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  Speaker 1: become available here in a month or two.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the best you know, best pictures would be you know, uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know Robbie Ray along with Scooble. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: Logan Webb would be available, but I don't rule it out.
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  Speaker 3: If the Diamondback struggle, you will be Merrill, Kelly Za
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  Speaker 3: Gallon maybe even in what or what rigus Uh you
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  Speaker 3: know some player wise, I just don't think anybody's gonna
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  Speaker 3: take on that contract of a damas Or or or
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  Speaker 3: a devers Or or a Matt Chapman. I just don't
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  Speaker 3: see it. Uh. You know, the Kansas City will have
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  Speaker 3: you know, their stars available, like Seth Lugo that sort
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  Speaker 3: of thing. But you know there's not that one guy
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  Speaker 3: like a schoobl out there, you know, position player wise,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you know, like a Juan Soto you know
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  Speaker 3: back a few years ago that's suddenly going to change
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  Speaker 3: it change a team, state, or you know, be be
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  Speaker 3: that big of a impact difference.
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  Speaker 1: Bob Nightingale USA today, He's been doing it for a
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  Speaker 1: long time and doing it well. He appreciate you joining us,
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  Speaker 1: sir and Wednesday in the Major League Baseball season.
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  Speaker 2: Take care all right, my pleasure, Thank you guys. Bob
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  Speaker 2: Nightingale USA. Today I covered ball with him back in
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  Speaker 2: the early two thousands.
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  Speaker 1: He's been Arizona. He was a Potters beat writer for
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  Speaker 1: the La Times for a while I was in Kansas City.
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  Speaker 1: Now he's been a long time senior calumnist for US Today.
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  Speaker 1: And he brings up to Terry Scoogle. I mean that
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  Speaker 1: would tilt the balance of power to whoever might acquire
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  Speaker 1: him if he does come back. He came back from
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  Speaker 1: a surgery that was unique in his elbow, in his arm,
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  Speaker 1: pitching arm, and there's talk of him coming back soon
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  Speaker 1: and like within a month or so, perhaps being back
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  Speaker 1: on the mount, which at the time it was almost
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  Speaker 1: as if he was a season enning injury early in
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  Speaker 1: the spring. But Bob's point is at twenty one and
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  Speaker 1: thirty four, ten games out in the last place in
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  Speaker 1: America in Central he thinks the Tigers are done. He
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  Speaker 1: said to Cleveland won the division, that race is over.
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  Speaker 1: Even though Chicago twenty seven and twenty seven are within
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  Speaker 1: shouting distance of Cleveland right now, but he says the
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  Speaker 1: Tigers are done. And that deal, Remember he got the
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  Speaker 1: scoobl got the largest arbitration award ever thirty two million
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  Speaker 1: dollars for one year and Bob Nightingale. That's just making
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  Speaker 1: bringing up the point. The Tigers haven't shown no interest
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  Speaker 1: in renegotiating or extending or given him any offer in
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  Speaker 1: the last two years, and this is while he was
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  Speaker 1: ascending to a young top of the sport pitcher. So
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  Speaker 1: the supposition would be the Tigers who won him back
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  Speaker 1: to potentially trade him after a couple starts. He mentioned Toronto,
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  Speaker 1: he mentioned San Diego with new ownership spending money. He
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  Speaker 1: mentioned the Dodgers because they're the Dodgers. He mentioned the
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  Speaker 1: Yankees because they're the Yankees, Chris. That would change everything.
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  Speaker 1: Toronto's been lurking there after their World Series appearance last
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  Speaker 1: year and they're currently in third place near five hundred
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  Speaker 1: in the America Yeast, But that would change everything to
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  Speaker 1: the Blue Jays.
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  Speaker 4: Is that a form of cheating or am I jumping
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  Speaker 4: the gun a little bit too much? They That would
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  Speaker 4: be some serious firepower. But again, I do believe that
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  Speaker 4: the Mariners are better than the Blue Jays. If they
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  Speaker 4: get Scoogle, okay, makes things interesting, but I would still
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  Speaker 4: have the Mariners being better. Granted they haven't played to
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  Speaker 4: that level yet, but I'm anticipating that to change. Over
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  Speaker 4: the next month or so when guys are healthier. It's
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  Speaker 4: more I just think they're just in a rut right now,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't know how many more excuses I can
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  Speaker 4: make for this roster to play to their level of
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: where they were last season. It's not like they're having
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: a hangover. They're just not playing good baseball offensively, and
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: they're still having errors on the defensive side of things.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: Pitching is yet again saving them. So whatever teams do
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: around the league doesn't really concern me. Obviously, the Yankees
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: are of concern. If the Blue Days do get screwgled,
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: that would be like, Okay, that's a challenge. But I
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: would still take the Mariners in a seven game series.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: And maybe I'm crazy for thinking that right now in
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: May going into June, but I just like this roster
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: where it is, And I know Bob Nightingale mentioned maybe
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: for the trade deadline they go get another reliever.
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: Or something of that.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: Potentially that would help, it wouldn't hurt. You can never
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: have enough relievers on this roster. So maybe we'll have
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: Bob back on closer to the trade deadline to see
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: if he has a name that could come in and
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: really solidify this pitching staff, and obviously offensively, we would
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: assume they'd be playing their best ball of the season.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: What's interesting about Toronto and everyone's burying their They've had
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: problems with their closer, they had injuries. They are twenty
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: six and twenty nine. That's almost the same.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Exact record as the Mariners.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Manners are twenty seven and twenty nine going into their
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: game today against the A's. The Blue Jays are playing
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: right now against Miami. They're twenty six and twenty nine,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: but they're in the wrong division. They're nine and a
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: half back in the America League East. Because Tampa Bay
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: is sixteen games above five hundred. The Yankees are eleven
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: games above five hundred. They're still two and a half back.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Of course, the Mariners are at the right division. They're
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: two games under five hundred, yet a half game out
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: because the A's are at first place at twenty seven
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: and twenty eight. Logan Gilbert starting in about forty five
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: minutes time down in West Sacramento against the A's and
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: the finale of that road trip in series, and the
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Marriages are going trying to go for the sweep against
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: the A's that would put them, improbably in first place,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: But Chris, how often have we talked it's just a
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: four or five or six game winning streak away from
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: the Maritor's being in first place, And this.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: Was the perfect opportunity to get rolling, sweep the Athletics,
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: and go from there. They can they easily, not easily?
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: Can they get a ten game winning streak. I think
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: this team is capable. Maybe it's asking a lot right
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: now considering how they've been playing, but at some point
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: they got to hit, They got to get rolling and
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: start to see some consistencies from this entire roster, from
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: the pitching all the way through the defensive side of things.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: So I'm intrigued to see a what they do today
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: against the Athletics and moving forward right because if they
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: have a setback today, within my goodness, it's the same
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: story with this team.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Two steps forward, one step back, yeah, or one step forward,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: two steps there. Arizona comes in this weekend. To Chris's point,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: what's next after this? They go three games of Arizona,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: three games against the Mets, who've been absolutely atrocious with
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: the roster and the salary or the roster size or
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: excuse me, size of contracts. They have three against the
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Mets next week. Then they go at Detroit, who we
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: just talked about was buried in the bottom of the
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Al Central at Baltimore at Washington. That's the seat the
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Mariners next week and a half two weeks. Can they
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: make their run? It wouldn't take much of a run
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: to sword at the top of the American League West
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: the way it's going right now. Up next to come
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: a dodge Tex line four nine, four to five one.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: A lot of opinions on what you would do with
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: this piggybacking situation of Castillo and Miller. We'll talk on
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• 19:26
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• 19:29
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• 19:32
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• 19:37
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• 19:41
  Speaker 1: June eight, nine, and ten, and then they're off till
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the end of July and start a training camp. We've
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: talked about the Mariners and they're piggybacking.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: We talked to Bob.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Nightingale USA today about that. He says, yeah, this is
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: more like spring training. That's something you try to do,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: but not something you do with two veterans starting pitchers
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: what the Mariners are doing with Louis Castillo and Bryce Miller.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: The Mariners are in Sacramento. They play this afternoon against
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: the A's with a chance at first place. A win
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: would put the Mariners in first place, despite the fact
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: they would still not beat to five hundred. That's what
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: the American League West is Logan Gilbert is starting for
• 20:15
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• 20:17
  Speaker 1: fact that the Knicks are awaiting the winner of the
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Thunder now at three to two on the Spurs, and
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: the Western Conference Finals.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: In the NHL, the Stanley Cup Finals have one entrant.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: The Vegas gold Knights swept the Colorado Avalanche, the best
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: team in the NHL regular season, right out of the
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Western Conference Finals Game four tonight in the East, Montreal
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: is hosting Carolina, trailing that series to the Hurricanes two
• 20:40
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• 20:43
  Speaker 1: of the show. That the Koma Dodge text Lin and
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: a lot of opinions Chris on this piggybacking by the Mariners.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Let's get things going for the three to six to soho,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: why can't the Mariners do a six men rotation until July?
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Then see what offers they get in exchange.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: For a bat. That may be the best solution.
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  Speaker 1: It may not be best for the all parties, including
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: the five other starters, but it would be the best
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: for Castillo for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you want to trade any of the
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: other ones.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Because of the fact that their youth and they're under
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: club control and contract for multiple years. But at twenty
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: four million, that's that's tough to move, least Castillo unless
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: you're just having him start. So that maybe that's the
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: way Chris, and have five days rest between starts. That's
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: gonna change everybody's routine, though that's so far. That's why
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: they haven't done.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: It all, right from the four to two five Yankees
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: already have two top left handed starters. They aren't going
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: after Scrowgle Toronto makes sense because Rogers just wants Cable viewers.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: I just don't know what they have to trade. Okay, Tigers,
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: that probably is a miss. Yeah, Toronto makes I think
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: it is Tigers. Yeah, no, no, Toronto doesn't have enough
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: to trade.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: What is at the point of the textras yes, okay, yeah,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Scooble's going to command the top, as Bob Nightingale said,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: school is going to command the top top of your
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: farm system, to top fifteen in your system.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: As as he said, this.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: Is from the two oh six. The Mariners will get
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: the Blue Jays in divisional round, and I'm taking the
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Mariners to win that in seven six games. Look at
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: that early hot take and even predicting the number of games.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: I could be crazy, but you know, sue me. Hey,
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: guys from the three six. So this is Jeff just
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: letting you know that sports radio out here in Detroit
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: is also stating that the Tigers are done and we'll
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: be trading screwball as soon as possible to get the
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: biggest return.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks Jeff.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: And actually, you know, if as soon as possible would
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: be after as Bob's point is, you got to come
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: back from the injury one, which is no shirt thing.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: He's going to be pitching brilliantly as soon as he
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: starts back again. Two.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: You gotta let him start for a couple starts to
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: build his market up for him. But yeah, between all that,
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  Speaker 1: as soon as possible, might not be till July or
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: end of July.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: And then you wait. If he is pitching, well you
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: wait and then you wait for that best offer.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: So it could be a while for sure before Schooble
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: would move from our guy Keith out of the two
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: five three at the Mariners went for school, well, we
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: possibly see the ultra rare double piggyback, probably seven starters.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: They'd have to trade one of their starters to get Schooble. Yeah,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: the ultra rare double piggyback. That's funny, Keith. One piggyback's
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: not enough for Keith.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Now from the four two five, if you want to
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: improve the team, you have to accept this team will
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: lose two out of three of their young pitchers. At
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: least the young pitchers only have trade value, and Luis
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Castile is an affordable four to five starter for the
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: lat for at least three seasons and has no trade value.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: Plus they need to move the surplus right field and
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: second baseman guys. If you accept Emerson Young, or if
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: you accept Emerson Young or your second shortstop in second
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: base for the next five years, then Donovan or JP
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: must be traded and whoever remains becomes a utility player.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: We need a real closer pushing everyone else down, a
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: power hitting third baseman. All the parts need to be moved.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: That's an interesting take.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know that they need to move away from Donovan.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: He's hurt, but he's been really good when he has
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: played Emerson, Emerson and Young looked like the future at
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: shortstop and second base. To his point or her point, yes,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I would push back on Luis as an affordable starter
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: at twenty four million a year if he's the fourth
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: or fifth best guy or now sixth best guy. So
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: far this year he's been the sixth best starter. He's
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: making twenty four million dollars. That's not a value. That's
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: not affordable either, And his lack of affordability is why
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: it is really hard to trade it. And some people
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: think you can't trade him, and you certainly can't trade
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: him if he's in the bullpen, which is the whole
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: point of this conversation.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: We've had.
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: A little bit of NFL.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: Regarding the Seahawks from Nico to three to six oh,
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: do you think some of the missing players could be
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: fabricated drama for the team because they're not gonna have
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: any real drama to give Hard Knocks, or that they'll
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: do something similar to make their Hard Knocks season interesting.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Thanks Nico.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're thinking three things about not even
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: one thing about Hard Knocks.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I don't. It's a non factor in the building. I
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: can tell you that for now.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: When it starts, it'll be a factor that they have
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: cameras in their meetings and in the locker room and
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: off the field, and McDonald won't like any of it.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: He's gonna try to keep everything close to the vest
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: and in house and protect the culture that he has.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: John Schneider's already said, we're gonna be try to be cordial.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: We're gonna try to be accommodating without giving away anything,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: revealing anything, So they're gonna be coy. I don't think
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: the players are gonna do any shenanigans or anything to Yeah,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: hard Knocks is not Yeah, it's not a disruption. I
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: can tell you that, especially not now.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: From the three six oh Joe from Kitsap might just
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: be the few here, but seems like Jerry calls a
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: lot of the shots and loves Dan being a new
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: manager and can implement his plans. This piggybacking is just
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: another one to go along with platooning horrible right handed
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: hitters and stipulations on how the bullpen gets used. Seems
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: to me a lot of the hate Dan gets are
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: from what Jerry calls.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I agree with some of that. I certainly think this picking.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I've already said the piggybacking was there's no way that
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Dan Wilson, a first time manager, said let's go do
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: this and told the Poto no way, no, no, no way.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: And I don't think Dan Wilson is all that the
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: genesis of the handedness and the analytics driven misdecisions that
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: he makes Hunter Joe for Luke Rayley.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: No, I think that's top down driven. I think the
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: texture has a point there.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: All right, a little NBA This is from the two
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: PHO six Chris. If you think this type of play
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: is good for the NBA, you're a casual product.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Is awful casual? That's like a modern day insult right now.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: That's not an insult.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: I think maybe what SGA is doing getting favorable whistles
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: that could be considered not good. But overall, the entire
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: conference is on fire. Like you have two elite teams
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: playing their best basketball of the season with an opportunity
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: to go to the NBA Finals.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, but tell me this the product itself.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: When I if I say I meant to gym on
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: the treadmill, and I'm that the volume turned down and
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: i can see the game at a distance and I'm
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: just watching the game from a thirty thousand of view.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I see five players run to the three point line
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: on a fast break. I see dudes pulling up and
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: hoisting up threes on one on.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Two fast breaks. I see isolation.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Plays everyone getting out of the lane and one on
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: one dribbling. I don't see plays. I don't see five
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: man rotating and moving away from the ball. And I
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: don't even see picking rolls that much anymore.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: Would would you at.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Least agree that the game has so is so different
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: in the last five years because the game is not
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: predicated around an offensive oriented thing. It's like you have
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: such elite players and shot makers they can get their
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: own play, which is what the Spurs have now. Granted,
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: there are sets. You'll watch coaches out of a time out.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: You'll see a set run out of a maybe their
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: first play of the game is a set. But for
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: the most part, when you have someone that can create
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: their own shot without picking rolls and all these other things,
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: and you can just rotate and move a couple of
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: spots and you have an open three, you're gonna take
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: that versus okay, let's create this play.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: There are times I think teams really lock in and
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: do that. Okay, see and the Spurs are great examples.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: There are times where one of the coach will draws
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: something out of a time I'm like, wow, it was
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: a really great play for you name a player. But
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: for the most part, if I have an MVP caliber
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: guy and it's not an issue he can do this
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: for thirty so minutes, I'm going to give him the ball.
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: And allow him to maneuver and create shots.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: Because there are games where Sga he is a pass
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: first person and creates for chet Homer, who I think
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: played really good last night, but they're not drawing sets
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: for him. He's getting rebounds, getting extra possessions. So I
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: think it's the point that you made it about the
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: game advancing. It's not as simple as well, this is
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: a really good defense. You've gotta draw something up and
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: create this matchup opportunity for our best player. Whereas oh,
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: I could just let Sga bring the ball up court
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: and he's going to decipher and pick and choose how
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: he wants to attack the spurs.
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: Oh, Victor's gonna play in the paint. That's cool.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna attack the paint and kick it out to
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: a three point shooter or you name it. So the
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: game is just changed dramatically. The defenders can't put their
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: hands on people no more so. Now what does that mean, Well,
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: I can go to the paint more so. It's kind
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: of a give and take. And now you're seeing it's
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: dunks are three pointers though, I mean, it's like going
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: to Green Lake watching an NBA game. Well, if you
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: go to Green Lake, a lot of these guys can't
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: even do what these players are doing.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm just talking about the style is
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: push up threes and dunks? Is that change like watching
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: a Green Lake pickup game? It's changed tremendously. It's to
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: me if the product's terrible. But I'm you and I
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: have differed on the NBA for years. I'm not going
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: to go on and about that, but I just mean
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: the actual approach to the game. That's That's kind of
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: what I was getting here. I think it starts with
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: just the players you have on the court. It's it's
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: so much easier just to not draw anything. Just go
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: play ball. Kind of like I think we talked about
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: this no.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: I talked about with Ashley about not getting in your
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: own way and trying to do things.
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: Just go play ball. I think that's what the NBA
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: coaches are now doing.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Just go play ball.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah it might look different in terms of threes and dunks,
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: but you know what that's doing. It's entertainment at the
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: end of the day. And I know a lot of
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: fans that are okay with that, are entertained to that magnitude. Now,
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: if you're a person that loves defense and loves plays,
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: this league is not going to be offering that so much.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: There's only a handful of teams that runs sets a
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: lot of times. There are still teams that do it,
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: but the sets are few in between. Every now and
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: then you'll see a set for Victor, but for the
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: most part, it's creating matchup nightmares when you have a
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: guy seven to five that can do any and everything
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: a point guard can do. This is from last one
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: for me. This is from the two h six. Oh
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: actually yeah. Cheenie Seattle Studs begin their twenty twenty sixth
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: season with a four game series versus the Medford Rogues
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: and Medford oregonf are three time NBC World Series champions
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: in twenty thirteen, fifteen to nineteen.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: I want to say the name is Elisa. I hope
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying that right. Shout out to the Chenie Seattle Studs.
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  Speaker 2: They're named after Chenie, a company owned by Ben Cheney.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we talked about it. I think two years ago
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  Speaker 5: we did the show.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, we did.
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  Speaker 1: There are a Summit Pro summer college team. I think
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: they play their games at UPS, the University of the
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  Speaker 1: Google On. Yeah, they play their games at UPS University
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  Speaker 1: of Puget Sound and thank you. There's others around Seattle's
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  Speaker 1: a team in West Seattle plays at West Seattle from
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  Speaker 1: a player I coached at University Prep who is now
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: at Linnfield College. Zach Hampson is going to play for
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: that team in West Seattle this summer, and there are
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: leagues around the northwest, teams around the northwestitude exactly that.
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  Speaker 2: So thank you Realisa uh Fortune five says.
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  Speaker 1: The Wilson conversation with Castille and the dugout the other
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: night and Sacramento just shows the level of dysfunction in
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: the Mariner organization.
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  Speaker 2: Two five three. Way to Greg's eyes, go at OTAs,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: what should I look for? That's a good question.
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  Speaker 1: I look for how the because the OTAs are the
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  Speaker 1: first chance of the rookies being on the field running
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: plays with the veterans. And I look at Jennari and
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Price and how he's working in with the offense, and
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: I work at the wide receivers and how often Sam Darnold's.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Throwing to the rookie ride receivers as Last year, for.
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  Speaker 1: Instance, I watched a lot on how much Elijah Royal,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: the rookie tight end, was getting targeted with the number
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  Speaker 1: one offense. It's an indicator of where they feel the
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: new guys are fitting into their plans and so on.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: So you go across the board and you look at
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Clark on defense and Neil on defense, and how much
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  Speaker 1: are they integrating with the system that Mike McDonald has
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: for their veterans, or are they sitting off to the
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: side and barely getting in with the twos and threes
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: and that kind of thing. And that's what OTAs are
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: for integrating the rookies into the system and seeing how
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: ready they are so that by training camp the coaching
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: staff has an idea, Okay, this is how we can
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: array this. But he seems to be catching onto the
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: playbook here.
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  Speaker 2: And so on. That's that's what I look for when
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I go to TYS. That's a good question. Yeah, I
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: hear you.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Four two five. Donovan is not a third baseman, and
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: it's been failing at largely. He's not a true third
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: base and we know that he's a second baseman and
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Cole Young has been lights out. You're not moving Cole
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Young out of second base, so you need to put
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Donovan as an utility roll in the outfield. But hey,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: road blaz just came back. Looked good last night on
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: base three times Roadblason right field.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, what are you gonna do?
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: You're gonna put Donovan out there with Roadblay's healthy again,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: So it appears third base is where Donovan will stay
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: when he comes back because you're not moving Cole Young
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: and now you got cold Emerson up. Excuse me? Emersonem
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: to play shortstop with what do you do with JP?
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Crawford blah blah blah. And that goes back to Crawford
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: volunteering to work out a third base because he knows
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: his livelihood is placed in Seattle's lineup?
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Is that's that's Big.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Four?
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Five says Julio is the next Dave Parker down to
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: the eyes Dave Parker nineteen seventy reference. We are family
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: from my childhood. Okay, the mayor Maple Valley. I think
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: he might be taping an interview. I'm not sure, but
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: he is outside. He probably will be joining us next.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: His show is from twelve until three, Dave Softy Maar
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: and Dick Fang three until seven.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: All that's coming up at ninety three point three kJ RFM.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Greg Best Show with Christopher kid
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Live on ninety three point three kJ RFM. We are
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: pleased to be joined by Ian Fornest straight out of
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: taping nineteen interviews.
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  Speaker 6: You guys been popping out there. We don't run around.
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: We got a lot of stuff going on today?
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: How are you?
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: What's going on? I'm sey, Yeah, I see you sick?
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: What the hell it's it's may. Nobody gets sick.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I know on planes without sleep to the
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: East coast. Ye got me sick.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: Say he went to Shelanne in a one day excourageon
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: my wife. It's aggressive and my wife's idea. It was aggressive.
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: Six hour on trip of driving. Yeah, ended up there.
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: You missed a spirited ota yesterday.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty five years of covered OTAs, I kind of
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: could skip one.
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: I think you were fine. I think you were fine.
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: Of course McDonald had him in the rain, yeah, which
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: I thought was And we had tyle kadon afterwards yesterday,
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: and I asked him about that because in the past
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: Pete would bring him inside. Of course they were inside,
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: and I'm driving in yesterday to get to the facility,
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: and it's like that misty, Hey, it feels like October
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: forty nine fifty one degrees, like first of all, feels
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: like football. Well that's cool, but I'm like, one hundred
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: percent they're gonna be inside.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nope.
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: And I thought about that, and I was like, this
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: is we deal with this during the season. Why aren't
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: we gonna do it? I always thought they did it
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: just because they want somebody slipping falling, you know, but
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: you could do that anywhere, right, So, and that grass
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: is pristine. Those guys do such an job that it's
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: not like that's a problem. And by the time practice
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: was over it was kind of partly sunny.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: So whatever.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: It's all part of McDonald's through not around. That's what
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: his mentality is. Yeah, he just doesn't care. No, he's
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: he's got a multimillion dollar indoor facility and doesn't use it.
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: No, they use it for interviews, hanging super Bowl, hanging
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: super Bowl banners. I heard Softy and Faine were talking
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: about this yesterday, and you would know just from how
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: many hits you get on the paper and the website
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: and all those things. They were talking about how this
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: super Bowl championship and this team is just doesn't draw
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: the same fire, excitement, interest as the first go around.
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: And I was trying to think about that driving around.
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: What do you think locally, nationally, locally locally? I felt
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: it last year and I looked at it from a
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: different standpoint, you know, the first time, first two super
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: Bowl trips with Pete. I was there, and so I
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: didn't really watching it and being around and people want
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: neighbors and everything. I felt a massive amount of excitement.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: And I think being around here more than a day,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: anyone who's been around here more than a day. Everyone
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: has been around here since the first Super Bowl Championship.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: There'll never be another first ever, right, and even this
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: parade day, I didn't feel the fervor that I felt
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: that I agree that day.
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  Speaker 2: I agree twenty fourteen. But maybe maybe their point is
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: that the personalities are not as relatable.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: They don't have a legion of Boom, they don't have
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Richard Sherman, they don't have Cam Chancellor Earl Thomas. I
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: think this team might be more likable from a fan's perspective.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: It's funny.
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: It's funny you say that. I'm going to bring that
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: up today because I had a conversation with someone yesterday
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: and I don't even mention who it was, media or otherwise,
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: and just about the likability factor. How easy these guys
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: are to deal with. But there is no impending implosion
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: coming right Like.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: That doesn't seem to be. No nobody's like, where's.
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: Mine, Where's mine?
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: That's exactly.
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: Even Witherspoon, who's you know, like Keys needs to get
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: a deal done.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Anyway, there's no story.
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: But he's there yesterday of course, right like that. I'm
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: gonna tell you right now, that guy's name is Richard Sherman,
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: Earl Thomas cam Chancellor, the exact same situation. In no
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: way he's on the field.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Cham Chanceller didn't show up till week three.
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: He wanted it after they row and two right, and
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: so Earl stood around with his arms folded and stood
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: behind everything all through training camp. It's a very different dynamic.
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: I guess this team very different dynamic than.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: The first one.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: It is, and they are more bought in to the
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: collective than they were then. I think that comes from
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald. I think Pete Carroll championed the individual. Mike
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: McDonald champions the team. And I'm not saying Carol was wrong.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: He's in Mount Rushmore of Seattle sports figures history went
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: to two super Bowls one one. But McDonald values the
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: collective and he's got players now who say, oh this worked,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: we won a super Bowl championship doing it in this
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: new coach's way. Let's listen to this guy and I
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: think the difference is that just that individual Pete Carroll,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: team collective Mike mc donald both got Super Bowl championships,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: and but I think that that buy in is what's
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: unique to this dam.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree.
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: I would agree it's Uh, we'll talk a little bit
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: about that today and college college sports are Senator Maria
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: Cantwell on with Ted Cruz, whoa Marie Campbell and Ted
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: Cruz coming together to put a bill, a bipartisan college
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: sports bill.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: I know, like.
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: Really that when you look at it on the surface,
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: wakes makes way too much sense.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Which means it won't get past correct one hundred percent.
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: Uh, we'll go through that a little bit.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: If they missed it yesterday our Tylecott interview, man oh
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: man was he He was fun. And then they brought
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: up Justin and Andrews brought this up. They said, who
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: does tylecottas sound like? So we're gonna we're gonna play
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: the title Cootty Interview in the one o'clock hour and
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: then at two o'clock we're gonna we're gonna we have
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: I think he sounds a lot of our listeners said
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: he sounded like one person. They thought he sounded like
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: somebody else. Both foot ball coaches, So we'll play those
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: all three side by side. Nettle comparison game coming up
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: at two o'clock as well today, So coming up.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: That's Ian, that's Anderson Hurst, that's Jessamond McIntyre. Coming up
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: to next, Greg Bell, the News Tribune and Christopher Head.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. We'll do it again tomorrow ten to noon.
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  Speaker 1: End's up next on ninety three point three k JRFM