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NFL Report: Coaching QB Bryce Young, Covering Aaron Rodgers, Week 2 Matchup Breakdowns · NFL explained.

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Speaker 1: All right, pencils down, heads up, Steve, It's time for
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Speaker 1: the NFL Report.
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Speaker 2: Steve White, James Palmer with you, and we have the
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Speaker 2: man Steve who.
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Speaker 1: Was spending every waking hour with the number one overall pick,
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Speaker 1: Bryce Young. That's Panthers offensive coordinator Thomas Brown gonna join
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Speaker 1: the show for an exclusive interview. Just wait, do you
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Speaker 1: hear what he asked to say about about the number
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Speaker 1: one pick?
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Speaker 3: I get?
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Speaker 2: Just wait until you have.
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Speaker 4: I can't wait for it because I used to cover
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Speaker 4: Thomas and college when he was a running back at Georgia.
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Speaker 4: So I'm really excited about this. But Jay PMLO down
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Speaker 4: the dumps. You know, two days ago a water main breaks,
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Speaker 4: a waterminon breaks in the house, so I got a
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Speaker 4: whole room flooded. My wife's got her family up, My
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Speaker 4: wife D's got her family up from Jamaica, so we
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Speaker 4: got this whole room now that's flooded, waters everywhere. But
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Speaker 4: that's not why I'm really down on the dumps JP.
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Speaker 3: It was the plumbing.
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Speaker 5: Duw.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, they're like it's gonna cost you this much.
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Speaker 4: I felt like Vonte is perfect. When I got fined
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Speaker 4: by the NFL from my fifteenth hit for unnecessary roughness
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Speaker 4: and do you know how big that fine those fines are.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's from Owen lawns around the neighborhood.
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Speaker 3: That's where I'm right now.
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Speaker 4: But look, we're also gonna have Brian Baldinger, and we
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Speaker 4: are gonna have all kinds of different angles on this
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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers subject, from how you know Aaron Rodgers history
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Speaker 4: to how it affects not only the Jets moving forward,
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Speaker 4: but at least one of their opponents.
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Speaker 3: You're not gonna want to miss that. We've got Stacey.
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Speaker 4: DL's, Brian Baldinger, Mike Grefolo, Judy Batista joining us JP
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Speaker 4: and first up, this is a game I don't think
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Speaker 4: either one of us can wait to see. Coming up,
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Speaker 4: we've got the Kansas City Chiefs coming off the l
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Speaker 4: to the Detroit Lions playing the Jacksonville Jaguars who win
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Speaker 4: the opener and James. This doesn't say anything about the Chiefs,
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Speaker 4: but the fact that we're talking about how they could
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Speaker 4: open the season with back to back losses against the
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Speaker 4: Lions and Jags tells you the state of those teams
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Speaker 4: right now.
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Speaker 1: Steve, you've been down to the dumps too much, so
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go negative. I'm gonna swing it over
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Speaker 1: to Jacksonville and go positive for us here. Imagine what
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Speaker 1: this benchmark game could be for the Jacksonville Jaguars organization.
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Speaker 1: If they take down the defending Super Bowl champs in
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Speaker 1: Week two and this might happen. I think, Steve, because
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Speaker 1: of when this game is happening, it's early in the season.
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Speaker 1: We know Chris Jones is back, we know he's been
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Speaker 1: doing two a days down.
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Speaker 2: In Miami, but he's not Nick Bosa.
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Speaker 1: I'm curious how many snaps he can go and how
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Speaker 1: that affects them getting after Trevor Lawrence because there's some
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Speaker 1: issues injuries wise up front on that offensive line. Can
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Speaker 1: they still be explosive and they can put some points
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Speaker 1: on the board. And then on the other side, we
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Speaker 1: know Travis Kelce probably coming back for this game. I
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Speaker 1: was told when an injury happened, a one to two
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Speaker 1: week injury. Is he one hundred percent? This could be
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Speaker 1: shaking up for a really good spot in the season
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Speaker 1: for Jacksonville to come away with a win. The closing
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Speaker 1: part of this, Steve, is closing out games. That's something
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Speaker 1: that the Jaguars know that the Chiefs are very good
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Speaker 1: at We know that Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid are
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Speaker 1: great in the fourth quarter.
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Speaker 2: They get better as the game goes on.
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Speaker 1: But talking to people in Jacksonville, they believe that's a
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Speaker 1: trait that they're developing as well. And if they're able
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Speaker 1: to compete in the fourth quarter and win a tight
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Speaker 1: game over the defending Super Bowl champs, a game that
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Speaker 1: they believe they should have won in the postseason, right
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Speaker 1: talk to Doug Peters in this offseason. He truly believes
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Speaker 1: they should have won that game in Arrowhead. This could
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Speaker 1: be a massive game for the organization, for the Jacksonville Jaguars,
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Speaker 1: and they're treating it as such. It's a playoff atmosphere,
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Speaker 1: I'm told down there in.
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Speaker 3: Jacksonville, well as it should be.
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Speaker 4: Look Kevin Calvin Ridley and the way he performed in
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Speaker 4: his debut last week is great reason for that optimism.
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Speaker 3: And the fact that he talked about that the.
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Speaker 4: Jags actually had the Chiefs on the ropes to some
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Speaker 4: degree in that playoff game last season, I mean that
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Speaker 4: says a lot about where they are. And I remember
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Speaker 4: this was the game when Patrick Mahomes first had that
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Speaker 4: got that high ankle. Spraint lingered all the way through
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Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, so that was part of it.
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Speaker 3: But you brought up Travis Kelcey.
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Speaker 4: He had fourteen catches and two touchdowns in that game.
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Speaker 4: He is that much of a difference make. But we'll
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Speaker 4: make a difference with this receiving corps that did not
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Speaker 4: play well without him in Week one? Or will arrest
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Speaker 4: of the guy step up to help booie Travis Kelsey,
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Speaker 4: Because all of a sudden, if Kelsey's not one hundred percent,
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Speaker 4: those guys aren't showing up that and we have to
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Speaker 4: start to wonder if the Kansas City Chiefs have I
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Speaker 4: have some greater underlying issues.
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Speaker 1: All Right, I'm really curious where Joan Taylor is going
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Speaker 1: to line up, Steve. I'm really I'm really curious how
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Speaker 1: far back he's.
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Speaker 4: Gonna going to left tackle. You were talking about depth
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Speaker 4: from the line of scrimmage.
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Speaker 1: And guess what, I think Doug Peterson knows a thing
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Speaker 1: or two about about his former tackle.
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Speaker 2: Let's move to the game that I'm going to be Yeah,
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Speaker 2: and I think this is a great game. This is
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Speaker 2: Ravens at Bengals.
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Speaker 1: And I had a chance to talk to a couple
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Speaker 1: players on the phone this week, had a chance to
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Speaker 1: talk to Tyler Boyd, who told me that, yes, that
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Speaker 1: is the worst he has ever seen Joe Burrow play.
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Speaker 1: But the interesting part Steven in our conversation is he said,
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Speaker 1: you know why he's so even keel all the time,
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Speaker 1: because he said, this week, nothing has faced him. He's
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Speaker 1: been the same guy each and every day. Bothered him
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Speaker 1: that he went out and threw for eighty two yards. Yes,
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Speaker 1: he did to get a haircut. He said that was
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Speaker 1: partially because of the way he played, not entirely, but
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Speaker 1: he said, this is why he's wired this way. He
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Speaker 1: goes to Ohio State, my university, makes a terrible decision
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Speaker 1: and moves on from him.
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Speaker 2: He transfers to LSU.
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Speaker 1: And his point with this is he has had to
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Speaker 1: grind each in every spot he's been. Nothing's been handed
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Speaker 1: to him in any of the spots he's been, which
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Speaker 1: is an interesting thing to say for a former.
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Speaker 2: Number one overall pick.
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Speaker 1: But he said that's why he has this mentality that
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Speaker 1: he can go out and bounce back from things because
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Speaker 1: of what's happened to him in his path getting to
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Speaker 1: the NFL and being the highest paid player in the
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Speaker 1: history of the league right now.
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Speaker 4: JP, if we think he is not going to bounce back,
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Speaker 4: that we need to go get drug tested or something.
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Speaker 4: You know, I need to go have more pipes in
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Speaker 4: my house burst or something.
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Speaker 3: Because he's going to bounce back. He's gonna bounce back.
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Speaker 4: The issue of this game is not going to be
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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow against This Ravens defense is down some dbs
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Speaker 4: right They've already had some injuries on their defense. The
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Speaker 4: issue is going to be Cincinnati's defense because no matter
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Speaker 4: what we want to say about this expanded Ravens offense,
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Speaker 4: they're still going to try.
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Speaker 3: To run the ball. And Baltimore's offense.
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Speaker 4: Was not great in their opener against Houston. They barely
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Speaker 4: surpassed one hundred yards on the ground. Lamar Jackson was
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Speaker 4: a little bit here and there when it came to
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Speaker 4: the pass game.
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Speaker 3: They've got some things to work out.
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Speaker 4: But after seeing the Bengals surrender more than two hundred
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Speaker 4: rushing guards against the Browns and they really didn't adjust
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Speaker 4: to fix it.
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Speaker 3: Now, the Ravens they don't have JK.
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Speaker 4: Dobbins, you know, they don't have Nick Chubb that Cleveland did,
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Speaker 4: But that defense has got to button it up or else,
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Speaker 4: John Harbaugh, Todd Munket, and that that run offense is
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Speaker 4: going to continue to trying to pound the rock.
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Speaker 5: Steve.
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Speaker 1: I look at one word that sums up I think
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Speaker 1: this entire game, and that is communication, and that involves
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Speaker 1: the Ravens. What are the two position groups that need
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Speaker 1: the really the best amount of continuity communication within a game.
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Speaker 1: It's offensive line and it's the second death second right,
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Speaker 1: those are the two spots that need to continue to
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Speaker 1: talk to each other throughout a game.
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Speaker 2: You mentioned it.
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Speaker 1: Marcus Williams, the leader of that secondary, most likely not
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Speaker 1: playing in this game, hasn't practiced all week with the
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Speaker 1: peck injury. Marlon Humphrey not back yet from the foot injury.
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Speaker 1: Down both those guys. Kyle Hamilton talked about it at
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Speaker 1: length this week about how communication is an issue back there. Yes,
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Speaker 1: they all play call of duty with one another. That
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Speaker 1: does happen in the secondary when they're having their downtime,
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Speaker 1: but on the field, having the proper amount of communication
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Speaker 1: against these three dynamic wide receivers is important. And then
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Speaker 1: Ronnie Staley and Tyler Linderbaum, their center and their left
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Speaker 1: table have not practiced all week.
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Speaker 2: The game on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: That's difficult upfront, when you're working in a new system
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Speaker 1: and just your second game with it. You want to
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Speaker 1: run the football, and we know DJ Reader and company
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Speaker 1: up front with Luena Romo can make some damage. Those
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Speaker 1: are the two spots I'm really keeping an eye on
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Speaker 1: in this game when I'm going to be there on Sunday.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean talking about interesting defenses.
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Speaker 4: We saw the Dallas Cowboys put a forty long dunk
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Speaker 4: on the Giants in the open of Micah Parsons.
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Speaker 3: At every level they dominated.
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Speaker 4: Well, guess what they've got Zach Wilson and the one
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Speaker 4: to o Jets this week. But on paper, it looks
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Speaker 4: like an absolute domination for this Cowboys, going up against
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Speaker 4: a quarterback who has still not found himself.
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Speaker 3: He was Aaron Rodgers backup.
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Speaker 4: But this is what we're gonna do because we're gonna
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Speaker 4: talk about Aaron Rodgers exclusively.
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Speaker 3: But I'm gonna tell you how Aaron Rodgers injury affects
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Speaker 3: more than just the Jets.
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Speaker 4: Within minutes of him going down Monday night, you better
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Speaker 4: believe all the Cowboys coaches, analytics people, scouts, everybody had
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Speaker 4: to scrap their game plan for their defensive install against
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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers. Remember there are coaches on the Cowboy staff
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Speaker 4: who were with Mike McCarthy and the Packers that you
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Speaker 4: know how Aaron Rodgers operates, scrap.
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Speaker 3: That get ready for Zach Wilson.
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Speaker 4: So what do they have with Zach Wilson preseason tape
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Speaker 4: with him in the Daniel Hackett system. So they had
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Speaker 4: to go scour that and we know in the preseason
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Speaker 4: they don't do too much. They had to watch this
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Speaker 4: game again to see what worked for the Jets, and
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Speaker 4: then they had to also go back and maybe look
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Speaker 4: at some of Jack Wilson stuff that he did the
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Speaker 4: last couple of seasons when he didn't play well. You
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Speaker 4: have your scouts going back look at their their reviews
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Speaker 4: out of him. But he was coming out of BYU.
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Speaker 4: So there's a lot of detail for the opponent this week,
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Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys that.
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Speaker 3: They had to go to that they were not expecting
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Speaker 3: to go to. That's just another.
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Speaker 4: Trickle down aspect of Aaron Rodgers' injury JP.
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Speaker 1: And you have to think it's week two, right, So
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Speaker 1: some of this work is done by some people in
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Speaker 1: that building during the end of preseason.
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Speaker 2: I mean they were probably a weighs.
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Speaker 1: Down in terms of their preparation about where they were
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Speaker 1: with this and because of their understanding of Nathaniel Hackett
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Speaker 1: and the thunderstanding specifically of Aaron Rodgers, and I'd like
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Speaker 1: to talk about Rogers moving forward, and we're going to
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Speaker 1: talk back up quarterbacks and their importance with Damas Brown
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Speaker 1: coming up in his interview, because I think they have
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Speaker 1: an experience, very good one there in Carolina.
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Speaker 3: And so.
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Speaker 2: There were questions Steve, going, all right, where do the
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Speaker 2: Jets go? Who should they bring in?
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Speaker 1: The best quarterback if you ask around the league for
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Speaker 1: the Jets right now, is Zach Wilson because he has
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Speaker 1: an understanding of the system, and anybody you bring in
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Speaker 1: that has to learn that system and play x mentally
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Speaker 1: better than him probably doesn't really exist for your liking
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Speaker 1: or your ability to go and get that quarterback. What
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Speaker 1: I'm curious about is because these two have sparked up
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Speaker 1: a very good friendship throughout this training camp, and that's
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Zack Wilson. Is Rogers going to stick
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Speaker 1: around and work in the room with Zach Wilson and
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Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett and company and making sure this young quarterback
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Speaker 1: is set up to succeed the best he can. Now, again,
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Speaker 1: I should put this clearly, that is not Aaron Rodgers'
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Speaker 1: job right now. His job is to get healthy, and
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Speaker 1: his job is to rehab and go through all this.
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Speaker 1: But he has talked about how rejuvenated he has Ben
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Speaker 1: Steve coming and wing with these guys, throwing with everybody
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Speaker 1: in the offseason and being around this young group. He
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Speaker 1: could do wonders for helping out Zach Wilson because he
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Speaker 1: knows this better than anybody else.
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Speaker 2: I'm curious to see what role he plays moving forwards.
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Speaker 3: And this is why I'm so glad.
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Speaker 4: I asked scy Dale's on Rye Stacia, world class athlete and
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Speaker 4: Olympic basketball player. It seems like it's a fairly simple
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Speaker 4: ask of Aaron Rodgers. Hey, once you've had your surgery,
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Speaker 4: come back and help. But we don't know what Aaron
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Speaker 4: Rodgers is going to be going through. We don't know
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Speaker 4: what he could be dealing with. We've heard so many
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Speaker 4: athletes talk about maybe going into dark pockets during rehab.
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Speaker 3: And things like that.
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Speaker 4: So to say Aaron, you need to be there for him,
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Speaker 4: that's not necessarily as simplistic of an ask as it
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Speaker 4: could be.
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Speaker 3: But I think your point of the fact that just
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Speaker 3: a few.
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Speaker 4: Months that he's had together with Zach Wilson, the relationship
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Speaker 4: that they've had, he might be able to have sprinkled
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Speaker 4: some of that magic faery dust on him that it
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Speaker 4: looks like he sprinkled for three seasons on Jordan Love
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Speaker 4: based on how Jordan Love came out of the gate
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Speaker 4: last week.
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Speaker 1: Man, I was talking to Tracy Wilson in Foxborough last Sunday.
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Speaker 2: She goes, we have the Jets Cowboys. Can you believe it?
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Speaker 1: I can't remember last time we did a Jets game
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Speaker 1: for our big broadcast on CBS. Well and Zach Wilson
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Speaker 1: against the Cowboys.
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Speaker 3: Well, coming up, we.
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Speaker 1: Have the number one overall pick, Bryce Young's mentors sidekick,
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Speaker 1: the guy who was molding him, Thomas Brown, the offensive
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Speaker 1: coordinator for the Carolina Panthers.
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Speaker 2: This is going to be ridiculous. Stick with us on
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Speaker 2: the NFL Report.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 4: Now, we have a very very special guest and JP.
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Speaker 4: This is what we love, right We're bringing people insiders
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Speaker 4: and information that they're not going to get anywhere else.
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Speaker 4: And we got Panthers offensive coordinator Thomas Brown joining us here.
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Speaker 3: On the NFL Report TV.
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Speaker 5: Let's go, let's go. Excited to be here.
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Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking to. Man, you're looking good.
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Speaker 2: Hey, shit, hey, appreciate it.
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Speaker 4: You know for the folks who are listening on the podcast,
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Speaker 4: they want to see. But Thomas, he's got off the
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Speaker 4: shrugs machine. He's kind of jacked and swollen right now.
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Speaker 6: In our shot, you only get one body of life, right,
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Speaker 6: got a maximize that take care of it, work out
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Speaker 6: every day.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they had to widen his shot to fit him
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Speaker 1: in there. We're scrunched on the sides. Make sure he
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Speaker 1: looks good in the middle.
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Speaker 4: Hey a Thomas, Just just for timeliness of this before
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Speaker 4: we get on to a couple of years ago, you
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Speaker 4: blew out your achilles tendon, you know, when you were
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Speaker 4: with the Rams.
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Speaker 3: You're rolling around on the scooter and everything.
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Speaker 4: What you look You're you're a former world class athlete,
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Speaker 4: NFL running back, college running back. But what is that
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Speaker 4: experience like and just kind of walk as quickly through
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Speaker 4: your rehab.
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Speaker 5: Yes, it was rough.
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Speaker 6: So I would say I was going through a number
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Speaker 6: routine on the field, doing the individual drill.
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Speaker 5: So every day we have.
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Speaker 6: I would say twenty minutes of individual So I have
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Speaker 6: the running backs and quarterbacks going through ball handle and
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Speaker 6: so I'm just kind of making those guys react.
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Speaker 5: Off of me.
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Speaker 6: And I make one step and I feel like that
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Speaker 6: somebody just threw a football at the back of my ankle.
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Speaker 6: So I turned around looking behind me try to see
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Speaker 6: the ball was on the ground. I realized there was
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Speaker 6: no ball there, so I tried to go take a
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Speaker 6: step and I just helped.
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Speaker 5: My whole kind of ankle and foot drop.
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Speaker 6: So I turned to Reggie Scott and Sam McVay was
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Speaker 6: kind of standing by each other, and said, I think
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Speaker 6: I just told my achilles, and so they thought I
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Speaker 6: was joking, but I was. I was very serious about
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Speaker 6: tarring the achilles, and so Reggie asked me, are you sure,
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Speaker 6: And I said, Reggie, I'm not a doctor, but I'm
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Speaker 6: pretty try. I know what happens, will goes in between
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Speaker 6: the same little spot, and it's missing right now.
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Speaker 5: And so my first thought was.
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Speaker 6: You know, can I get off the field and I
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Speaker 6: walk off the field, So I tried to. I did
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Speaker 6: walk myself to the training room, and so a number
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Speaker 6: of motions are going through.
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Speaker 5: My brain, you know.
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Speaker 6: Luckily, for me in that position, I'm no longer playing,
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Speaker 6: so it won't affect that aspect of it. I can
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Speaker 6: imagine from a players standpoint, right how devastate it is
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Speaker 6: going to be when it comes to the initial injury
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Speaker 6: being out for the entire year, but thinking about just
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Speaker 6: the rehab process going back and kind of recovering from
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Speaker 6: the injury. And for myself, I mean, I'm a fairly
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Speaker 6: older dude now, I try to still be somewhat relatively young,
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Speaker 6: but it took me a good, you know, eight to
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Speaker 6: nine months to get back to doing everything I want.
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Speaker 1: You're like thirty, you know, you're younger than Rogers, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: for sure.
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Speaker 6: So I mean I think being able to try to
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Speaker 6: build back and get back into one hundred percent shape
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Speaker 6: was was a tough challenge for me my life. But
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Speaker 6: it's different when it comes to being a washed up
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Speaker 6: coach versus being a player.
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Speaker 5: And you're problem right now.
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Speaker 1: But I'm kind of curious in this so when this happens,
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Speaker 1: and not just what we saw Monday night with Aaron Rodgers,
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Speaker 1: but in any instance where you know your starter goes down,
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Speaker 1: what's the first conversation on the sideline that you have
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Speaker 1: as a play caller, as an offensive coordinator, as a
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Speaker 1: part of the offensive staff. With that backup quarterback that's
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Speaker 1: going in what initially happens on the sideline right away, Well.
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Speaker 5: The first thing for me is just trying.
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Speaker 6: So it makes me ease his mind when it comes
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Speaker 6: to the moment of having a to come in that
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Speaker 6: top opportunity.
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Speaker 5: I think every time you have a major injury on
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Speaker 5: the field, I think every player.
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Speaker 6: Kind of has that that thought in the back of
15:36
Speaker 6: their mind about some significant injury happening. So my role
15:40
Speaker 6: is going to be a tight hole. All those guys
15:42
Speaker 6: done as much as possible. All those guys will play
15:44
Speaker 6: with a quiet in mind and kind of get those
15:45
Speaker 6: guys rolling.
15:46
Speaker 5: I want to play starts.
15:48
Speaker 4: So Thomas, with that situation, you know, so we know
15:52
Speaker 4: the big deal with Aaron Rodgers going to the Jets
15:53
Speaker 4: the quarterback, you guys have a very capable backup and
15:58
Speaker 4: Andy Dalton. I mean, right as we're looking around the NFL,
16:02
Speaker 4: not every team is as fortunate as you to have
16:04
Speaker 4: somebody like that. What about you guys in Carolina having
16:07
Speaker 4: someone like Andy Dalton who's there just in case of
16:10
Speaker 4: a worst case scenario.
16:12
Speaker 6: I mean, I think just from the standpoint of what
16:13
Speaker 6: you mentioned Steve about being worst case scenario, but I
16:16
Speaker 6: think more importantly the everyday process of him being a
16:19
Speaker 6: poor into Bryce from his experience right his exposure for
16:22
Speaker 6: being in this league for a very long time, how
16:25
Speaker 6: open Andy is, how he communicates in the media room,
16:27
Speaker 6: but also given Bryce kind of just subtle tips and
16:30
Speaker 6: sails on the football field, that was what his overall
16:32
Speaker 6: development is awesome for us.
16:35
Speaker 1: So he's been through a lot of games, Andy Dalton,
16:38
Speaker 1: and he's watched the film the next day with coaching
16:42
Speaker 1: staffs a lot. Bryce did that for the very first
16:44
Speaker 1: time after your game on Sunday. If you could take
16:47
Speaker 1: us Thomas into that room and kind of what that
16:50
Speaker 1: first film session was like after Bryce's first game, what.
16:54
Speaker 2: Went down in there.
16:56
Speaker 6: Well, first off, we're all very disappointing about the outcome
16:59
Speaker 6: of the game. I think any time we lose a
17:00
Speaker 6: football game, I've always been a very sole loser, my
17:04
Speaker 6: mom reminds me from time to time, from the age
17:06
Speaker 6: I was eight years old up until now. But I
17:08
Speaker 6: think being able to build upon some of the positive
17:10
Speaker 6: things we did offensively, but more particularly when it comes
17:12
Speaker 6: to Bryce and his overall growth, and development. You look
17:15
Speaker 6: at the tape and talk about the positive takeaways, you
17:17
Speaker 6: look at how you operate the system from a huddle standpoint,
17:20
Speaker 6: but also the saline communication I thought was really good,
17:23
Speaker 6: especially for.
17:24
Speaker 5: His first opportunity time being out.
17:26
Speaker 6: But what an opportunity to learn like first week one
17:28
Speaker 6: have adversity, and what I love about adversity is the
17:31
Speaker 6: opportunity to be able to take on the challenge to
17:34
Speaker 6: learn and grow from it. And Bryce is is as
17:36
Speaker 6: good as as I've been around when it comes to
17:39
Speaker 6: taking on those challenges.
17:41
Speaker 4: So when you're when you're game planning, now now that
17:43
Speaker 4: you've got a baseline right from the game against Atlanta,
17:46
Speaker 4: now you go through the Saints on Monday night, I mean,
17:48
Speaker 4: what is Bryce's approach? Because everything we saw in college
17:51
Speaker 4: was Okay, let's go get it.
17:52
Speaker 3: We know we did wrong, let's go get it. Kind
17:54
Speaker 3: of tell us what it's been like. Work with him.
17:56
Speaker 3: Going into week.
17:56
Speaker 5: Two, I'm in the exact same way. I think. One
17:59
Speaker 5: of the things I love about Bryce is his overall
18:01
Speaker 5: approach back.
18:03
Speaker 6: We were kind of going through the process of evaluating quarterbacks.
18:05
Speaker 6: We're on a couple of planes start around the country
18:08
Speaker 6: to interview quarterbacks, but also watch those guys throw in person.
18:12
Speaker 6: And so I meet with all the quarterbacks and the
18:13
Speaker 6: Maximus guys some similar questions, and one of the questions
18:16
Speaker 6: I ask all the quarterbacks was just take me through. Okay,
18:19
Speaker 6: the game is done it Saturday night. What's your weekly
18:22
Speaker 6: process from the time of the game end to the
18:24
Speaker 6: next game. And so most quarterbacks had probably I would
18:28
Speaker 6: say ten to fifteen minute response. Right, So we're seventeen
18:32
Speaker 6: minutes into the and to Bryce answering the question, and
18:34
Speaker 6: we're still on Tuesday morning, So I think being it
18:37
Speaker 6: when it comped this overall development, he has a great approach,
18:41
Speaker 6: a great process towards understanding how to move on past
18:43
Speaker 6: the game, learn from those mistakes, but also build upon
18:47
Speaker 6: what he did well as well.
18:48
Speaker 1: Also, well, Thomas, there was all of you guys on
18:52
Speaker 1: that plane, on this offensive staff going around. So I
18:55
Speaker 1: saw a bunch of you guys at Ohio State at CJ.
18:57
Speaker 1: Shroud's pro day, and you guys were making the round.
19:00
Speaker 1: With that said, all of these offensive minds you guys
19:03
Speaker 1: have on this staff, how do you, I guess in
19:06
Speaker 1: this process with a young quarterback, the number one overall
19:09
Speaker 1: pick is talented as Bryce is kind of divvy up
19:12
Speaker 1: who does what? How does it get split way?
19:16
Speaker 2: Is there a meeting.
19:17
Speaker 1: Before, like, do you guys devise who handles what? How
19:20
Speaker 1: does it operate within the staff when you're trying to
19:22
Speaker 1: mold him early on?
19:24
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't.
19:25
Speaker 6: The great thing about our setup is that we have
19:27
Speaker 6: a great operation when it comes to delegating roles and responsibilities.
19:30
Speaker 5: I think sometimes when it comes to.
19:33
Speaker 6: Having so much, you know, whether the mental capacity or
19:35
Speaker 6: experience in one room, depending on who you had, it
19:38
Speaker 6: can become an issue. We do a great job when
19:40
Speaker 6: it comes to always checking your ego at the door.
19:43
Speaker 6: We're all about trying to find ways to figure out
19:45
Speaker 6: what is right versus who is right. So I think
19:47
Speaker 6: the collaboration process we have has been amazing.
19:50
Speaker 5: It's been awesome. I look forward to kind of building
19:52
Speaker 5: that every day.
19:53
Speaker 4: And Thomas you talk about, you know, the collaboration forging
19:56
Speaker 4: a identity. Right, you're a former running back, you've coach run.
20:00
Speaker 4: What about the run game and how important that is.
20:03
Speaker 4: It's not only helping Bryce develop, but you guys establishing
20:07
Speaker 4: what type of character you're going to be Offensively?
20:11
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I mean we break down offensive identity. So
20:14
Speaker 6: we talked about this from day one we got back
20:16
Speaker 6: here in April when our players came in. We broke
20:18
Speaker 6: it down to kind of three different categories, all right.
20:21
Speaker 6: Number one was being the physical at every position, and
20:24
Speaker 6: so you mentioned a running game. Everything starts with that
20:26
Speaker 6: approach for us. One of the biggest positive takeaway from
20:29
Speaker 6: our game is that the really good job of being
20:31
Speaker 6: aggressive attacking running back to the really good job when
20:34
Speaker 6: it comes to running after running, make a contact after
20:38
Speaker 6: the ball, kind of from a contact standpoint, fight infective
20:40
Speaker 6: yards when it comes to the overall development of a
20:43
Speaker 6: young quarterback, but also offensively in general, everything deals off
20:46
Speaker 6: of that. You're talking about your play pass, your keepers,
20:49
Speaker 6: your nakeds, and obviously drive back offense as well.
20:54
Speaker 1: Tomas, does that playoff of what you?
20:56
Speaker 5: I mean?
20:56
Speaker 1: Obviously you look at what everybody else is doing, right,
20:58
Speaker 1: and everybody kind of sees and steals from one another.
21:01
Speaker 1: Is it looking at what is a trend in defensive
21:04
Speaker 1: football in the NFL alters what you want to do
21:06
Speaker 1: offensively or do you look more at at offensive football
21:10
Speaker 1: around the NFL and then kind of build it off
21:12
Speaker 1: that obvious it is off of your personnel but still,
21:14
Speaker 1: what side of the ball do you look at more
21:16
Speaker 1: to kind of build that identity what you said.
21:19
Speaker 6: Last part, the most important thing is you kind of
21:20
Speaker 6: already mentioned when it comes to understanding your personneling what
21:22
Speaker 6: you guys do well offensively upfront, quarterback wise or skilled players.
21:27
Speaker 6: But I mean to me, it's kind of a combination
21:29
Speaker 6: of both. When you look at trends around the league
21:31
Speaker 6: from an off of the standpoint defensively, you can get
21:34
Speaker 6: certain ideas from there from the offensive perspective, but we
21:37
Speaker 6: kind of hold true to our identity, our philosophy, trying
21:39
Speaker 6: to build upon every single week, but also doing a
21:41
Speaker 6: great job of self scout. So once we have a game,
21:45
Speaker 6: obviously kind of correcting those corrections, but what do we
21:47
Speaker 6: put on tape? What can we build off of that
21:49
Speaker 6: kind of our opponents is watching to kind of, you know,
21:51
Speaker 6: make it more difficult for those guys to defend us
21:53
Speaker 6: moving forward.
21:54
Speaker 4: And Thomas, we saw in preseason second half of games
21:57
Speaker 4: you were calling the place. Frank Reicher said, at some point,
21:59
Speaker 4: you guys are going to make the transition, whenever that
22:01
Speaker 4: is this season, next season, whatever, You're gonna be.
22:04
Speaker 3: The play caller. How do you guys work with that.
22:06
Speaker 4: How has Frank work with you and when you coach
22:08
Speaker 4: under Sean McVeigh and maybe teaching you some of the
22:11
Speaker 4: things and taking your input on some things you guys
22:14
Speaker 4: can forge when that transition takes place.
22:17
Speaker 6: Well, one, I've always been a sponge, so have an
22:19
Speaker 6: opportunity to, like you mentioned before, being in the environment
22:21
Speaker 6: with so many great minds around us, but the kind
22:24
Speaker 6: of one on one time with Frank every single day
22:26
Speaker 6: we kind of put together that game plan and talk
22:28
Speaker 6: about certain ideas.
22:29
Speaker 5: Obviously winning on guy like coach call what as well,
22:31
Speaker 5: who can kind of obviously.
22:33
Speaker 6: Add advice from his vast experience from a behind the
22:37
Speaker 6: scenes standpoint, But I think it's about the daily collaboration
22:40
Speaker 6: and me understanding more about him and kind of vice
22:42
Speaker 6: versa in combination, will putting out buzzing a pleasant in
22:45
Speaker 6: the best spot to have success right we cand and
22:47
Speaker 6: week out.
22:50
Speaker 1: Tom, I'm fascinated by play callers. I love when guys
22:52
Speaker 1: say there's so much in the zone. They're not even
22:54
Speaker 1: looking at the sheet, right, They're just they're just calling it.
22:56
Speaker 1: But everybody kind of has a different description of it.
22:58
Speaker 2: Right. Some guys say it's a science. Some guys say
23:00
Speaker 2: it's an art, some guys say it's a feel. How
23:03
Speaker 2: would you describe play calling?
23:06
Speaker 6: I think the biggest part of it is about preparation,
23:08
Speaker 6: you know, so obviously being able to have a fill
23:10
Speaker 6: on game is important. Being able to adapt in the
23:13
Speaker 6: just depending what the opponent is giving is going to
23:15
Speaker 6: be a big part of you having success on game day.
23:17
Speaker 6: But it's about what are you doing throughout the week
23:20
Speaker 6: putting the game and putting the game on from a
23:22
Speaker 6: game plan standpoint, how you bring it to life More importantly,
23:25
Speaker 6: how you explain those details to your players, because all
23:28
Speaker 6: boils down to not how smart you claim to be
23:31
Speaker 6: a want to be as a play caller, but how
23:33
Speaker 6: smart are your players? What those guys can activate on
23:35
Speaker 6: game day?
23:36
Speaker 4: All right, Thomas, let's take it back when we got
23:38
Speaker 4: that number twenty on at Uga.
23:40
Speaker 3: Okay, we're going back to running backs. All the conversation
23:43
Speaker 3: is off season is our running backs are devalued. But
23:46
Speaker 3: every week all I hear is how valuable the running
23:49
Speaker 3: game is?
23:51
Speaker 4: Right, what is the difference between the value of running
23:54
Speaker 4: backs and the value of the running game.
23:58
Speaker 6: Well, Steve, I'll say this, staying in the frustration the
24:01
Speaker 6: round the league when it comes to some of these
24:02
Speaker 6: elite players who will continued to produce on a consistent
24:05
Speaker 6: basis and want to.
24:06
Speaker 5: Be rewarded for it.
24:07
Speaker 6: But all can do is speak for us as from
24:08
Speaker 6: an organization standpoint and our value.
24:11
Speaker 5: And I went off a guy like.
24:12
Speaker 6: Miles Sons, for example, who had great value for us,
24:15
Speaker 6: and people may say from a market value standpoint it
24:18
Speaker 6: was a little bit higher, but just as far as
24:20
Speaker 6: how we want to be built identity wise, it was
24:22
Speaker 6: a perfect fit for us when it comes to how
24:23
Speaker 6: we're building your system, but also a great for rookie
24:26
Speaker 6: quarterback as well.
24:29
Speaker 2: Miles can do it all.
24:30
Speaker 1: We all know that he can do a lot of
24:31
Speaker 1: different things as a running back Thomason And so last
24:34
Speaker 1: one for me is you're going into your second game
24:37
Speaker 1: with your quarterback. Everybody talks about adversity when things don't
24:40
Speaker 1: go right for young quarterbacks. How do they bounce back?
24:42
Speaker 1: How do they respond? What was your take on this week?
24:46
Speaker 1: What may be instances if there is one that sticks
24:49
Speaker 1: out to you most about Bryce where you said, oh okay.
24:52
Speaker 2: This is kind of different than this guy, Well.
24:55
Speaker 6: I think, to me is what I've seen every single
24:56
Speaker 6: day and he stepped foot on in his organization. From
24:59
Speaker 6: a practice standp went preparation wise, Pross.
25:01
Speaker 2: In the media room.
25:02
Speaker 5: I mean, he is calm, cool, collective.
25:04
Speaker 6: But one thing I did see that I love is
25:06
Speaker 6: obviously from a game play standpoint, just to fire the
25:08
Speaker 6: emotion of the theme and the solid when it comes
25:11
Speaker 6: to making players, getting guys going, but obviously wanting to
25:13
Speaker 6: have the ball in his hands when it counts the most,
25:16
Speaker 6: so we can definitely build upon when it comes to
25:17
Speaker 6: our overall operation.
25:19
Speaker 4: Thomas Brown, offensive coordinator for the Carolina Panthers, thank you
25:23
Speaker 4: so much. Now that you finished shruggs and shoulders, don't
25:25
Speaker 4: forget leg Day, Thomas. Your gotta stay balanced, man.
25:29
Speaker 5: Start every Monday with leg Day.
25:31
Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about.
25:32
Speaker 5: The big farm, That's.
25:33
Speaker 3: What I'm talking about. Thomas, Thank you so much.
25:36
Speaker 5: Thank you for the time.
25:40
Speaker 3: He never misses his leg Dare.
25:41
Speaker 4: That's Brian Baldinger and he's gonna be here later and
25:43
Speaker 4: tell us about Packers quarterback Jordan Love. The eye and
25:46
Speaker 4: the sky don't lie, and neither is Brian Baldinger.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the NFL Report, and just like every Thursday,
26:03
Speaker 1: we're joined by Brian, balding Er and Baldi. We love
26:06
Speaker 1: that you get to listen to our interviews each and
26:08
Speaker 1: every week.
26:09
Speaker 2: And Thomas Brown's breaking down play calling.
26:11
Speaker 5: I was in.
26:12
Speaker 1: Foxborough last Sunday watching Brian Johnson go out there and
26:15
Speaker 1: call plays for the first time in the NFL. I'm
26:17
Speaker 1: fascinated by play calling, and I know you have an
26:19
Speaker 1: interest in it too, just in the manner in which
26:22
Speaker 1: it's done successfully.
26:25
Speaker 2: Well.
26:26
Speaker 7: Look, I mean if you look at like, why would
26:28
Speaker 7: Brian Johnson change what change Psychin did last year with
26:32
Speaker 7: Jalen Hurts, Like, you know, they're a deep shot team. Okay,
26:36
Speaker 7: they were a quarterback. You know, you got to count
26:38
Speaker 7: for him in a run game. They're a power run team.
26:42
Speaker 7: Like they just do certain things that they're really good at.
26:44
Speaker 7: And the Patriots do that. And the Patriots had a
26:47
Speaker 7: good game plan. They were they played a lot of his own.
26:50
Speaker 7: They clouded all their deep shots that Eagles didn't get
26:52
Speaker 7: one play down the field the AJ Brown or to
26:55
Speaker 7: Plant Smith, not one. They averaged five yards you know
26:59
Speaker 7: an attempt like they should be up around eight yards
27:02
Speaker 7: in a temp. All right, we're not getting carried away
27:04
Speaker 7: with stats. But and then they played a five minute
27:05
Speaker 7: defensive front with one linebacker, and they basically said, okay,
27:09
Speaker 7: move us off the ball. And those all those mercenaries
27:14
Speaker 7: up front that played Patriot football, they didn't get moved,
27:18
Speaker 7: you know, they didn't get moved by Jordan Mulatta and
27:20
Speaker 7: by Kelsey and Lane. Like they held their ground really well.
27:23
Speaker 7: They shut down on what was a powerful running game
27:26
Speaker 7: a week ago. I mean it was it was good
27:28
Speaker 7: balance what the Patriots did defensively.
27:31
Speaker 4: Hey, Baldy, the folks are listening to the podcast won't
27:33
Speaker 4: be able to see it. But you got a pillow
27:36
Speaker 4: behind you, man, are you like sleeping in the office there?
27:39
Speaker 5: Bro.
27:42
Speaker 7: Every once in a while, the eyelid they get heavy
27:44
Speaker 7: steams and they got a rest just before it, you know,
27:48
Speaker 7: like in the fifteenth hours. Sometimes you need to sneak
27:51
Speaker 7: right there. I see it, I see it. That's good
27:53
Speaker 7: eyes right there by youth peper. Sometimes it was eyelands
27:55
Speaker 7: get a little heavy, like even two fifth they keep
27:58
Speaker 7: the eye open, you know.
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is how dedicated you are, Baldy.
28:03
Speaker 3: But you just talked about that Patrio's defense.
28:05
Speaker 4: Well, this week they faced a buzz saw of an
28:09
Speaker 4: offense with the Miami Dolphins. We saw them hang thirty
28:12
Speaker 4: six on the Chargers. I mean, the passing game layered
28:16
Speaker 4: all over the place. I know Mike mc daniels said
28:18
Speaker 4: he wanted to run the ball more, but Jesus man,
28:21
Speaker 4: it seemed like they were throwing the ball all the
28:23
Speaker 4: time with routes that could not be denied.
28:27
Speaker 7: Well, look, I mean Tyreek had you know, one of
28:29
Speaker 7: those days, okay, And I was just shocked that the
28:32
Speaker 7: Chargers never adjusted like you got. Like I've seen Bill
28:37
Speaker 7: Belichick play elite receivers and they will cloud them. I
28:40
Speaker 7: don't care what the name of the back of the
28:42
Speaker 7: jersey was. Could have been Chad Johnson back in the day.
28:45
Speaker 7: You know, they had a cloud over the top. And
28:47
Speaker 7: this throw right here by Tyreek, Like, where is the
28:49
Speaker 7: safety over the top on that at thirty five yard touchdown?
28:52
Speaker 7: This game winner right here, you're gonna put Mike Davis
28:54
Speaker 7: on him. There was nowhere else that to was going
28:58
Speaker 7: but to Tyreek. And so like this the first play
29:01
Speaker 7: the game, I don't know, they're in some kind of
29:03
Speaker 7: a walk away with Khalil Mack. The safety wasn't sure
29:06
Speaker 7: if they were going to clamp him in his own
29:08
Speaker 7: like he.
29:08
Speaker 2: Was just too wide open all day.
29:11
Speaker 7: And I just don't believe the Patriots will let that happen.
29:14
Speaker 7: Like maybe Jalen Wide gets some you know, maybe the
29:18
Speaker 7: running backs get a few more, but I don't think
29:20
Speaker 7: Tyreek Hill is going to run wide open and open
29:23
Speaker 7: freeways up there in Foxborough this week.
29:26
Speaker 6: There.
29:29
Speaker 1: I'm curious, aboudy what on the other side of the
29:31
Speaker 1: coin with the way Mike McDaniel does things in terms
29:34
Speaker 1: of when he sees this Sunday and you want to
29:36
Speaker 1: see what Bill Belichick's trying to take away early? What
29:40
Speaker 1: does he do as an offensive mine to adjust to
29:42
Speaker 1: to an experienced defensive caller like Bill Belichick.
29:46
Speaker 7: Well, there's you know, there's formations like how are they
29:48
Speaker 7: playing informations James, I mean bunch formation. Are they manning
29:51
Speaker 7: it or they's owning it? You know, there's so many
29:54
Speaker 7: different factors that you're just sending indicators. You know, is
29:57
Speaker 7: there gonna be a lot of more pre stat motion
30:00
Speaker 7: this week? And how the Patriots handled that? They do
30:03
Speaker 7: the Patriots disguise their motion and tell you that they're
30:06
Speaker 7: playing man and then play zone off of it. You know,
30:09
Speaker 7: I thought it was interesting last week Eagles took a
30:11
Speaker 7: deep shot to AJ Brown and you know it's a
30:14
Speaker 7: classic to Jalen Hurst and A J. Brown, And there's
30:18
Speaker 7: Gonzales and Maypou, two rookies that bracketed it. You couldn't
30:22
Speaker 7: have walked through it on Friday afternoon any better than
30:24
Speaker 7: they executed it. Mike wants to see that, like, are
30:28
Speaker 7: they going to bracket our deep shots? Are they going
30:30
Speaker 7: to cloud it? And if they do, then the underneath
30:32
Speaker 7: should work, should open? Are they gonna play zone? Are
30:35
Speaker 7: they gonna mix it up? Are they playing half field
30:38
Speaker 7: man Halffield zone? Like Mike's looking for all those indicators
30:41
Speaker 7: and then for any indicator that he sees, He's got
30:45
Speaker 7: a beater for it, you know, whether it's a man beater,
30:47
Speaker 7: whether it's flooding the zone. But the good thing is
30:51
Speaker 7: Tua was so clear in what he was looking at
30:55
Speaker 7: last Sunday. And people can argue all they want about too.
30:59
Speaker 7: If that guy going back to Alabama days is mechanically sound,
31:03
Speaker 7: his feet gets set, and when his feet gets set,
31:06
Speaker 7: like he makes one stick throw after another like right here,
31:10
Speaker 7: like in stride, you're gonna get aldiac Like he is
31:13
Speaker 7: a deadly accurate thrower and his deep ball, like you
31:17
Speaker 7: can't throw it any better over the top. Now that's
31:18
Speaker 7: the fourth corner right there.
31:20
Speaker 2: You know, the Chargers. Why not go after.
31:23
Speaker 4: Hey, Baldy, speaking about mechanically sound and indicators, Let's go
31:27
Speaker 4: to Jordan Love because for a couple of years we
31:29
Speaker 4: heard there was no indication that he was gonna be
31:31
Speaker 4: able to play.
31:32
Speaker 3: Quarterback in this league.
31:33
Speaker 4: And from what we saw in the preseason and his debut,
31:37
Speaker 4: he looks like he's going to be just fine.
31:40
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, just think about the receiving card he's
31:43
Speaker 7: throwing a Jaden Reid their second round pick. Yeah, Romeo
31:45
Speaker 7: Dobbs the second round you know, for a year or
31:48
Speaker 7: two right now, that touched the floater to Romeo Dobbs.
31:53
Speaker 7: All right, just a back shoulder fade in the corner
31:56
Speaker 7: of the end zone. We've watched far do it for
31:59
Speaker 7: fifteen years. We want Sharon Rodgers do it for fifteen years,
32:02
Speaker 7: and we might just watch Jordan Love Jeordan for fifty
32:04
Speaker 7: because he threw it just the way both those.
32:07
Speaker 2: Hall of famers threw it.
32:08
Speaker 7: Yeah, like it was he knew exactly where to put
32:10
Speaker 7: that ball and let doms go get it, all right.
32:13
Speaker 3: Baldy, that's really great stuff.
32:15
Speaker 4: We're gonna make a transition from Jordan Love to the
32:18
Speaker 4: story of the week and Aaron Rodgers and Baldy we
32:20
Speaker 4: will see you next Thursday. But here's Rogers post surgery
32:25
Speaker 4: on IG. Thank you to every person that has reached out,
32:27
Speaker 4: called Texas DM, connected to a friend, et cetera.
32:30
Speaker 3: Has met a ton to me and I'll try to
32:31
Speaker 3: get back to all of you soon.
32:33
Speaker 4: I'm completely heartbroken and moving through all the emotions, but
32:37
Speaker 4: deeply touched and humbled by the support and love. Please
32:39
Speaker 4: keep me in your thoughts and prayers. I begin the
32:41
Speaker 4: healing process today. The night is darkest before the dawn,
32:46
Speaker 4: and I shall rise yet again proud of my guys.
32:50
Speaker 4: One and oh, so Aaron Rodgers does not sound like
32:53
Speaker 4: his career is gonna.
32:54
Speaker 3: Be ending getting carted off of a field.
32:56
Speaker 4: And now we bring in Stacy Dale's who out of
32:59
Speaker 4: all the people in NFL media staff, I spent the
33:02
Speaker 4: most time around Aaron Rodgers.
33:04
Speaker 3: But Sat, I want to get this from your perspective again.
33:06
Speaker 4: You're your Olympic basketball player, you are a world class
33:09
Speaker 4: athlete hooper at Oklahoma. An injury like this to someone
33:15
Speaker 4: like Aaron Rodgers, who again you spent years around at
33:18
Speaker 4: thirty nine, the coping mechanisms he might have to put
33:22
Speaker 4: in place or whatever, Like, what can you tell us
33:24
Speaker 4: about maybe what he's going to have to deal with here?
33:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question.
33:30
Speaker 2: Good to be with you guys.
33:31
Speaker 8: And I do have a pillow in the background.
33:33
Speaker 3: Like Baldy and a dog.
33:36
Speaker 8: I see with Aaron Rodgers, it was time for him
33:40
Speaker 8: to move on, right, And you just spoke with Baldy
33:44
Speaker 8: about Jordan Love and just how efficient he was, and
33:46
Speaker 8: they've really given him the keys to the to the
33:50
Speaker 8: jeep if you will. I mean in Green Bay, and
33:52
Speaker 8: there's got to be something about the water in Green
33:54
Speaker 8: Bay when you come out and have a performance like that.
33:57
Speaker 8: But I would just classify this as traumatizing, and Jeff Collette,
34:01
Speaker 8: the producer, could probably attest as a Packers fan like
34:05
Speaker 8: traumatizing and devastating for any player to suffer an injury
34:10
Speaker 8: in the first game, but for it to be Aaron Rodgers,
34:12
Speaker 8: who will be a first ballot as we all know.
34:15
Speaker 8: And I can't recall like you and I spoke Steve
34:18
Speaker 8: this week on the phone, and I just can't recall
34:20
Speaker 8: a player of this magnitude in Week one, suffering such
34:24
Speaker 8: a distinct injury, it's and then the questions sort of prevail,
34:30
Speaker 8: like is this going to be the end of his career?
34:32
Speaker 2: We were told.
34:34
Speaker 8: Basically in that post that he gave us all on Instagram. No,
34:38
Speaker 8: and then Nathaniel Hackett spoke today as well about the
34:41
Speaker 8: fact that they fully believe, at least there in the
34:44
Speaker 8: Jets building, that he's going to come back. And that's
34:47
Speaker 8: going to be I think the most interesting thing because
34:50
Speaker 8: he's played their injuries in his career. This is achilles injury.
34:52
Speaker 8: It's unlike you know, other injuries, and it takes a
34:55
Speaker 8: long time after the surgery to heal and to really
34:59
Speaker 8: get back your feet again, if you will. But yeah,
35:03
Speaker 8: it's devastating. It's traumatizing for the team, and I think
35:07
Speaker 8: we've all learned that given some of the comments and
35:09
Speaker 8: interviews done this week.
35:12
Speaker 1: Stasey, I'm curious about the man that's always so closely
35:16
Speaker 1: tied to Aaron Rodgers, and that's Nathaniel Hackett, And now
35:19
Speaker 1: that he is there and he is not going to
35:21
Speaker 1: be working this season with Aaron Rodgers, how much of
35:25
Speaker 1: a spotlight is there on Nathaniel Hackett now that it's
35:28
Speaker 1: going to be him and Zach Wilson and not him
35:31
Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers.
35:32
Speaker 8: I think you nailed it, James, and you were there
35:34
Speaker 8: obviously for a lot of what took place in Denver
35:37
Speaker 8: right as he embarked upon his head coach. I was
35:39
Speaker 8: in the NFL, Yes, you were. He's going to bear
35:45
Speaker 8: the responsibility fully, and I think you'll have an Aaron
35:48
Speaker 8: Rodgers who's very involved. Aaron's a coach on the field.
35:52
Speaker 8: Aaron dictates, as he's done his entire career, so much
35:55
Speaker 8: of what happens at the line of scrimmage he doesn't.
35:59
Speaker 8: You could argue, like Tom Brady doesn't need a play call.
36:01
Speaker 8: He's going to call the game himself. And when you
36:04
Speaker 8: have that kind of a blankie, it makes your job
36:07
Speaker 8: as an offensive coordinator a lot easier now, Like it
36:10
Speaker 8: was really interesting when they were together in Green Bay.
36:13
Speaker 8: I had some great conversations with coach Hacket. You know,
36:17
Speaker 8: he runs the stairs before the game, He's out there
36:20
Speaker 8: about three hours early. Those are the best times to
36:23
Speaker 8: grab a coach because the game plan's been set all week.
36:26
Speaker 8: They're finally ready to just go let it rip, and
36:28
Speaker 8: you know, finding ways to stimulate Aaron Rodgers every single day,
36:33
Speaker 8: with every single game plan is extraordinary to hear from
36:36
Speaker 8: the offensive coordinator. So now fast forward, and he's going
36:40
Speaker 8: to have a great deal of responsibility and making sure
36:43
Speaker 8: Zach Wilson is capable and in good situations to get
36:46
Speaker 8: the football out and make sure this team believes in him.
36:49
Speaker 8: But I'll tell you what if you can run for
36:51
Speaker 8: one hundred and seventy two.
36:52
Speaker 2: Yards like they did.
36:55
Speaker 8: Despite Rogers going down, and you've got Bryce Hall who's
36:58
Speaker 8: over one hundred on the ground and Delvin Cook, I
37:01
Speaker 8: would say there, there's the formula to start with. If
37:04
Speaker 8: you're the New York Jets.
37:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the formula that got them to five and
37:08
Speaker 1: two at the start of last season. I see some
37:09
Speaker 1: pause moving around over there. Stacey sleeping dogs.
37:13
Speaker 5: I know that.
37:15
Speaker 3: I know that from the streaming.
37:17
Speaker 1: We're in dreamland right now. She is in dreamland. And
37:20
Speaker 1: you know who's in dreamland right now? All of Detroit
37:23
Speaker 1: after they took down the reigning Super Bowl champs in
37:26
Speaker 1: the first week. Let's hear Dan Campbell after that win
37:29
Speaker 1: before we get back to Stace.
37:31
Speaker 9: I didn't learn anything. I got verification on what I
37:33
Speaker 9: already knew and this is a resilient team. It already
37:38
Speaker 9: was a resilient team. And we added pieces to that
37:40
Speaker 9: resilient team. So we're built to handle some some stuff.
37:45
Speaker 9: And and we did that today against a very good.
37:48
Speaker 8: Opponent, Motor City Dan.
37:55
Speaker 2: They didn't do that. Hey, they did do that.
37:57
Speaker 3: Stays.
37:57
Speaker 1: How different is that building now with that man and
38:01
Speaker 1: where they are right now, Stacy, where is that building.
38:06
Speaker 2: In terms of their mindset?
38:09
Speaker 8: I am so passionate about this, Like, okay, if you
38:12
Speaker 8: don't believe in the Detroit Lions, and I'll put my
38:14
Speaker 8: neck out there for this team. These are a bunch
38:18
Speaker 8: of ballers when you walk in that building, this is
38:21
Speaker 8: a group of winners. I mean obviously, you know, we
38:24
Speaker 8: saw them go on the road. I don't care you know,
38:26
Speaker 8: No Travis Kelcey, no, Chris Jones. I mean yeah, obviously
38:30
Speaker 8: those are really incredible players and are going to be,
38:34
Speaker 8: you know, impactful for the Chiefs this season. But that
38:37
Speaker 8: is as you know, James, you're there all the time
38:39
Speaker 8: at Arrowhead, that that environment, that's one hundred and forty
38:42
Speaker 8: two decibels of noise in your ears. Now here's what
38:46
Speaker 8: I'll say about Detroit that Ford Field is going to
38:49
Speaker 8: be obnoxiously loud. So when you cover a game at
38:53
Speaker 8: Ford Field, they've got an open press bock in press box.
38:56
Speaker 8: So listeners out there, what does that mean? You guys
38:59
Speaker 8: know it's the there's no shield, there's no glass, it
39:01
Speaker 8: is open. So when I do a game there, I
39:03
Speaker 8: literally have to take my noise reducing headsets or my
39:07
Speaker 8: ear plugs, and I got to put them in because
39:09
Speaker 8: it is deafening at that field. And the culture is
39:12
Speaker 8: really incredible. Jared Goff has been revitalized. He's playing I
39:17
Speaker 8: wrote it down three hundred and fifty nine pass attempts
39:19
Speaker 8: with that an interception? Are you kidding me?
39:22
Speaker 3: Yep?
39:22
Speaker 8: I mean third long streak. Ever, their rookie has been sensational,
39:27
Speaker 8: so it's an exciting time in Detroit.
39:29
Speaker 4: And says the fact they're playing a Seahawks team, it's
39:31
Speaker 4: gonna be desperate. I just want to know the Blue
39:34
Speaker 4: Man group. Jaunty Gardner. Johnson's calling for everybody in Detroit
39:37
Speaker 4: to come in with blue scheme mask. You have five seconds.
39:41
Speaker 4: If you were there, would you be rocking.
39:43
Speaker 8: One one hundred a HONDI P one hundred pee?
39:47
Speaker 3: There we go, There we go Stacey.
39:49
Speaker 4: Dale's You're gonna be back even decumber yet, we're just
39:51
Speaker 4: clearing our throats to that you are fantastic.
39:53
Speaker 3: We love you.
39:54
Speaker 4: Go pet the dog that's in dreamland right now, because
39:57
Speaker 4: when we come back to the NFL report, we're gonna
39:59
Speaker 4: take a deep dive on the Aaron Rodgers effect, and
40:02
Speaker 4: we're gonna hear from Mike Garrifolo and Judy Batista who
40:04
Speaker 4: were on hand when things fell apart kind of Monday night.
40:18
Speaker 10: I feel more for Aaron than anyone, you know, he is.
40:23
Speaker 10: He's invested so much into this organization, so much into
40:26
Speaker 10: this journey that he's embarked on and wanting to be
40:30
Speaker 10: a part of what we've got going here, and how
40:33
Speaker 10: much he's invested in not only this organization but his
40:35
Speaker 10: teammates himself. This fan baby.
40:42
Speaker 1: It was Jet's head coach Robert Salla. Obviously the news
40:44
Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers were joined. I was watching this game
40:47
Speaker 1: and the Achilles popping from my couch. Both of these individuals,
40:50
Speaker 1: and Judy Batista and Mike Carrafulla were there at MetLife
40:54
Speaker 1: and Mike, I want to know right from the jump,
40:56
Speaker 1: when you see it happen, do you jump out of
40:58
Speaker 1: your press box seat. Run me through how you got
41:02
Speaker 1: to the tunnel and what happened once you were there,
41:05
Speaker 1: trying to be the intrepid reporter on.
41:07
Speaker 2: The scene that you are, Mikey g.
41:10
Speaker 11: Well, when you're in the press boxes, Judy and I
41:12
Speaker 11: were the first thing that you want to acknowledge. And
41:16
Speaker 11: if you hear this music, by the way, it's the
41:18
Speaker 11: music of everybody warming up here before the Eagles Vikings
41:21
Speaker 11: game is we're getting ready for You want to be
41:25
Speaker 11: the eyes of the ears of the people who are
41:27
Speaker 11: watching at home, and they're not getting constant updates. So
41:29
Speaker 11: as soon as I see the cart headed for the
41:31
Speaker 11: blue tent, I said, all right, tweat it out.
41:32
Speaker 3: There's the cart.
41:33
Speaker 11: And then he leaves on the cart and I said
41:35
Speaker 11: to Judy that's it. We're not gonna get anything else
41:37
Speaker 11: from the press box. Let's go down to the tunnel.
41:39
Speaker 11: We're looking for the X ray room because I have
41:41
Speaker 11: a strong feeling.
41:42
Speaker 3: He's headed there.
41:43
Speaker 11: And I said to Judy, I said, I know where
41:45
Speaker 11: the giants is. Do the giants have a separate or
41:47
Speaker 11: did jets have a separate one? And we were trying
41:49
Speaker 11: to figure that out and Eventually we hit a dead end.
41:51
Speaker 11: We couldn't walk any further. We said, God must just
41:54
Speaker 11: be the one X ray room outside the giants locker room.
41:56
Speaker 3: Let's head back.
41:58
Speaker 11: So we start heading back that way, and I can
41:59
Speaker 11: hear on the walkie talkie's of security they're getting ready
42:02
Speaker 11: for something. I said, Judy, he's coming out any second now.
42:05
Speaker 11: And all of a sudden, I heard are you ready?
42:08
Speaker 11: And the guy goes, yeah, they go clear this hallway.
42:12
Speaker 11: Everybody's got to go inside. I look at you. I go,
42:14
Speaker 11: these guys got another thing coming. If they think they're
42:16
Speaker 11: gonna tell us to go inside, Judy's like absolutely. So
42:21
Speaker 11: then the cart comes by me and I start taking video,
42:25
Speaker 11: and if you can see, at the end of the video,
42:27
Speaker 11: the gentleman tries to jump in front of me to
42:29
Speaker 11: block the video, which was hysterical, and then his supervisor
42:32
Speaker 11: comes over and says, excuse me, what are you doing?
42:35
Speaker 11: I said, what do you mean? He goes, you're taking video?
42:36
Speaker 11: I said I know, I am, and he goes, why
42:38
Speaker 11: are you doing that? I showed up my put paths
42:40
Speaker 11: and I said for information distribution purposes. He goes, but
42:45
Speaker 11: are you allowed to do that? And I said yes,
42:49
Speaker 11: and he goes but ethically, I said, I'm not worried
42:51
Speaker 11: about ethically, I'm worried about journalistically. Yes, So I tweeted
42:55
Speaker 11: the video out and the rest was history.
42:56
Speaker 12: Hey, on to the fourth of State and Mike Carrofolo
42:58
Speaker 12: for the hustle, Judy Miyo. Mike was there in the
43:02
Speaker 12: tunnels doing his job like the A one reporter he was,
43:04
Speaker 12: And by the way, postgame, he absolutely killed the grasping
43:08
Speaker 12: of the emotions from pregame to you know, the injury,
43:11
Speaker 12: to the actual celebration of a win. But Judy, you
43:13
Speaker 12: were there the following day with the Jets moving forward. Now,
43:18
Speaker 12: what is kind of the feeling is that, Okay, everybodbody
43:20
Speaker 12: else you have to gird Zach or is he really
43:23
Speaker 12: our guy?
43:26
Speaker 13: I don't know if they're talking themselves into it, but yesterday,
43:29
Speaker 13: which was the first time that the team was gathered
43:31
Speaker 13: since then, you know, he is their guy and they're
43:35
Speaker 13: going to line up behind him. Frankly, they don't really
43:37
Speaker 13: have much of a choice.
43:38
Speaker 5: He's right now.
43:39
Speaker 13: He is certainly their best option. He knows the offense,
43:42
Speaker 13: he's been there, and they all talked about how improved
43:45
Speaker 13: he has been since OTA's and training camp. So I
43:48
Speaker 13: think the message had come from Sala, like, Okay, you
43:51
Speaker 13: had like the forty eight hours to sort of mourn
43:54
Speaker 13: this injury, and now you've got the Dallas Cowboys and
43:57
Speaker 13: you've got sixteen games and you're one to zero, and
43:59
Speaker 13: so it's time to get ready. With Zach Wilson. You know,
44:03
Speaker 13: Dalvin Cook, who is like basically the newest member of
44:06
Speaker 13: the New York Jets. I thought I had the most
44:09
Speaker 13: interesting balance of emotions because he was a little bit wistful.
44:12
Speaker 13: He said he had come there hoping to get a
44:14
Speaker 13: handoff from eight, he said, from a great Obviously that's
44:17
Speaker 13: not going to happen this year. But then he said,
44:19
Speaker 13: like Zach knows, we've got his back, like we've all
44:22
Speaker 13: got to play better for Zach. And then he talked
44:25
Speaker 13: again about how much confidence he has, which is a
44:28
Speaker 13: big thing for the Jets because last year that was
44:30
Speaker 13: a shattered quarterback and so the fact that he's got
44:33
Speaker 13: confidence in himself and that the team around him has
44:37
Speaker 13: confidence him is a big, big deal if this is
44:40
Speaker 13: going to work.
44:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike, I want to ask you about that shattered quarterback.
44:45
Speaker 1: Have the Jets looked elsewhere. Yet I'm assuming that started
44:49
Speaker 1: and he'd look at a backup, a veteran backup. What
44:52
Speaker 1: are their options around Zach Wilson.
44:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, backup is.
44:58
Speaker 11: The key word, because they don't want to bring anybody
45:00
Speaker 11: that anybody else would be clamoring for, any of the
45:03
Speaker 11: fans would be clamoring for. They want to make it
45:05
Speaker 11: clear that Zach Wilson's got a clear runway here, So
45:08
Speaker 11: any of the options would be uninspiring for the starting extent,
45:11
Speaker 11: but not that there are any inspiring ones. Jet Sores
45:14
Speaker 11: told me here immediately, Zach Wilson gives us the best
45:17
Speaker 11: chance to win, so they definitely want to make sure
45:20
Speaker 11: that he's got his right mind about him. Right now,
45:23
Speaker 11: they're going to elevate Tim Boyle from the practice squad.
45:25
Speaker 11: They've got three elevations that they're allowed to do before
45:28
Speaker 11: they have to add him to the roster permanently. So
45:30
Speaker 11: wouldn't be surprised if Zach Wilson is the only quarterback
45:33
Speaker 11: on the active roster, perhaps for the next couple of
45:36
Speaker 11: weeks while they bounce Boiled back and forth, and then
45:38
Speaker 11: maybe add another long term sinus.
45:40
Speaker 4: All right, Michael Judy, we know you guys are on
45:42
Speaker 4: the clock, So look to Mike Gara follow for talking
45:44
Speaker 4: through the sound checks. That is a very difficult part
45:47
Speaker 4: of the things that we have to do. So props
45:49
Speaker 4: my brother Judy great cooms at credit cale dot com
45:52
Speaker 4: slash Batista, So make sure to check out the column
45:55
Speaker 4: on the Jets' future and JP that Aaron Rodgers' injury
45:59
Speaker 4: has sparked a new conversation about artificial turf versus grass.
46:04
Speaker 4: So when we come back on the NFL report, what's
46:07
Speaker 4: it going to be like underguy's feet.
46:10
Speaker 3: Well before it.
46:20
Speaker 4: Back in the NFL report, and Aaron Rodgers' injury sparked
46:24
Speaker 4: another huge debate, JP, and that is to turf or
46:28
Speaker 4: to have natural grass. As the NFL PA came out
46:31
Speaker 4: and said that all fields should be natural grass. David Botiari,
46:36
Speaker 4: the left tackle for the Packers during the game, said,
46:38
Speaker 4: this is another incident of artificial turf leading to an injury.
46:44
Speaker 3: But JP, we've heard the discussion. We know it's not
46:47
Speaker 3: going to happen.
46:48
Speaker 4: There are some teams that are just not going to
46:51
Speaker 4: put in natural grass. It could be to climate, it
46:53
Speaker 4: could be to a dome.
46:54
Speaker 3: There's no natural.
46:55
Speaker 4: Grass going in Mercedes Benz in Atlanta or the super
46:57
Speaker 4: Dome in New Orleans. So this is going to be
47:00
Speaker 4: a continued debate, James, And so to tell people really
47:05
Speaker 4: about it, we're thinking about stadiums a lot when it
47:08
Speaker 4: comes to artificial term for grass.
47:10
Speaker 3: But this is practice.
47:11
Speaker 4: Fields, this is indoor facilities as well. There's a lot
47:15
Speaker 4: more to it than just natural grass at stadiums.
47:19
Speaker 2: That's exactly right.
47:20
Speaker 1: I was at Broncos when Russell Wilson talked about this
47:23
Speaker 1: this week and it was actually, I don't know, maybe
47:25
Speaker 1: it's a rarity, a very honest moment from Russell Wilson
47:27
Speaker 1: where he took a stance Dave.
47:29
Speaker 2: He had an opinion.
47:30
Speaker 1: He said, specifically practice He wants to be on grass
47:33
Speaker 1: fields for his ankles, for his knees. He brought up
47:36
Speaker 1: the indoor facility that the Broncos have and it's a
47:38
Speaker 1: newer endoor facility that they have. And if that doesn't
47:40
Speaker 1: show you the way veteran players that we talk to
47:43
Speaker 1: Steve around the league feel about indoor practice facilities. Usually
47:46
Speaker 1: if there's weather or something that happens, the team has
47:48
Speaker 1: to go indoors. There is every veteran on the team
47:51
Speaker 1: that is throwing on the sneakers and they are like,
47:53
Speaker 1: I am done for today. I am doing a walkthrough.
47:56
Speaker 1: That is the extent of what I'll do on this
47:58
Speaker 1: indoor practice facilit That's usually what happens yep, during the week.
48:02
Speaker 1: It's funny that that's their thinking, right Steve. But at
48:05
Speaker 1: the same time, then on Sunday they're going to go
48:07
Speaker 1: out and play on a turf field. And you brought
48:10
Speaker 1: this up earlier their first instance into the NFL as
48:13
Speaker 1: a young prospect, that the NFL combine is on what surface.
48:16
Speaker 4: It is not on natural grass, it is on turf,
48:19
Speaker 4: I mean, and that's part of it. And this is
48:21
Speaker 4: where Joe Burrow, JP and you were talking about this
48:24
Speaker 4: when he came out to if we're going to have turf,
48:26
Speaker 4: it should be universal turf at all of those sites idea,
48:30
Speaker 4: And speaking with the NFL, it is up to each
48:32
Speaker 4: individual team on which turf manufacturer they want to use
48:36
Speaker 4: for their stadiums and for their practice facility.
48:38
Speaker 3: So that is a good idea by Joe Burrow. Why
48:40
Speaker 3: don't you elaborate.
48:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that Joe came up with that idea,
48:44
Speaker 1: considering he's a guy that's also had an ACL in
48:46
Speaker 1: the past, right, and also is somebody that spends a
48:48
Speaker 1: lot of time on the turf depending on how his
48:50
Speaker 1: offensive line plays. But having a universal turf from field
48:54
Speaker 1: to field, at least in his mind, would give players
48:57
Speaker 1: an understanding of what they're going to be playing on
49:00
Speaker 1: and a knowledge before they get to that game on
49:03
Speaker 1: what playing surface they're going to be playing on. But
49:05
Speaker 1: again we'll find out if that happens. There's a lot
49:07
Speaker 1: that goes on in these stadiums moving forward in different
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Speaker 1: types of events, monster trucks, all sorts of stuff. Steve,
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Speaker 1: it was a pleasure. I'm going to see you Monday.
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Speaker 1: We'll recap some Week two games on the NFL Report.
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Speaker 2: See you guys on Monday,