Latest / Frightmares / Ep. 372 - Fright Night (1985)
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- 0:01Speaker 1: You are now listening to the Someone's Favorite Productions podcast network.
- 0:08Speaker 1: The following podcast will contain spoilers, tangents, hot takes, and
- 0:12Speaker 1: excessive foul language. Viewer discretion is advised enjoy the show.
- 0:56Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Frightmares Podcast. I'm your host Austin
- 0:58Speaker 2: Proctor and joining me today episode three seventy two is
- 1:01Speaker 2: my beautiful wife, Gabrielle Procter. Hello, Hello, Today, on the
- 1:07Speaker 2: first installment of Vamprel's Bite, we are discussing our essential pick,
- 1:11Speaker 2: Fright Night from nineteen eighty five, a movie that shows
- 1:14Speaker 2: us why neighbors should mind their own fucking business.
- 1:17Speaker 1: It's true.
- 1:17Speaker 2: Let's see where it lands in the nightmare index real quick.
- 1:25Speaker 2: Here from the corrections department. Well rating off my Scott
- 1:28Speaker 2: Derekson ratings. That's too many ratings, I said, four and
- 1:31Speaker 2: a half, four and a half seven eight eight eight eight.
- 1:34Speaker 2: That's because I was looking at the IMDb ratings and
- 1:36Speaker 2: then converting them to a five star rating system that
- 1:38Speaker 2: I apparently gave up on after the first two, So
- 1:41Speaker 2: it would be four and a half, four and a
- 1:42Speaker 2: half three point five four four four four. Really gotta
- 1:45Speaker 2: get with that corrections department and have that fixed, which
- 1:49Speaker 2: is me you see in.
- 1:50Speaker 1: This podcast is terrible, horrible, falling apart.
- 1:54Speaker 2: So you are just so far ahead of me in life.
- 2:03Speaker 1: God Lord, I'm absolutely plowing through movies.
- 2:08Speaker 2: I am at one thirty something.
- 2:12Speaker 1: There's a stark difference, though it's not a huge difference.
- 2:15Speaker 1: But I do actually log every single damn time my
- 2:20Speaker 1: child makes me sit through.
- 2:22Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.
- 2:24Speaker 1: If I just sit through it, I'm counting that shit.
- 2:26Speaker 2: You'd think I would do that, But I don't want.
- 2:28Speaker 2: I don't want to be just you care more about
- 2:30Speaker 2: the yet, Yeah, I'm not having my end of the
- 2:33Speaker 2: year wrap up be fucking in Canto thirty seven times
- 2:37Speaker 2: or whatever. No, I don't want that. I want the
- 2:39Speaker 2: actual facts. Nah, I want.
- 2:42Speaker 1: The actual facts as it pertains to do. How much
- 2:44Speaker 1: did you do that? Because right now I've watched Super
- 2:48Speaker 1: Mario eight times.
- 2:50Speaker 2: Lord, But now we're on a.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Luca train, and you know what Luca's cool. It's fun movie.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Celencio Bruno, yes, which our child thinks means shut up.
- 3:00Speaker 1: I've gotten Sialencio Bruno a few times.
- 3:02Speaker 2: I mean that it does kind of mean. I mean
- 3:05Speaker 2: it means silence. But who goes silence to people. I
- 3:08Speaker 2: don't do that.
- 3:09Speaker 1: Yeah you do if you're a bossy toddler. But yeah,
- 3:12Speaker 1: you know, catching up in a lot. I've been watching
- 3:14Speaker 1: a lot of trash movies recently, a lot of really
- 3:17Speaker 1: low rated movies. My father was so disappointed in my
- 3:22Speaker 1: picks that he's like, here's some quality films, because what
- 3:25Speaker 1: you're doing is a waste of your own time. Thank you.
- 3:28Speaker 2: Your letterbox stats are not here to impress your father. No,
- 3:31Speaker 2: you don't need his approval.
- 3:32Speaker 1: You know what I will say, though, All the things
- 3:35Speaker 1: he recommended are highly rated on Letterbox. And he just
- 3:38Speaker 1: had me watch one recently that was really good. You
- 3:43Speaker 1: need to watch it called Eating Raoul.
- 3:44Speaker 2: I've got too much other shit on my plate.
- 3:47Speaker 1: Well, this one's pretty good I don't have on my plate.
- 3:51Speaker 1: It's from nineteen eighty two. It's a dark comedy and
- 3:55Speaker 1: the subject matter makes it weird. My dad recommended it
- 3:57Speaker 1: to me, but it's got a three and a half
- 3:59Speaker 1: on Letterbox. And the two characters, the two main actors
- 4:03Speaker 1: in that movie reprise their roles in Chopping Mall. They
- 4:06Speaker 1: play the same characters. But I've only seen Chopping Mall
- 4:10Speaker 1: one time, so I wouldn't remember that, so I have
- 4:14Speaker 1: to rewatch it now.
- 4:15Speaker 2: It's chopping mall just a not unheard. It's the secret
- 4:22Speaker 2: sequel to Eating Raoul.
- 4:24Speaker 1: It must be, But now I need to watch it
- 4:28Speaker 1: so that way I can get the context of that one,
- 4:31Speaker 1: because it's four years after there, I can't. The director's
- 4:34Speaker 1: not the same, so literally, no idea why they're they're
- 4:38Speaker 1: reprising their same characters four years later. But it was
- 4:41Speaker 1: very funny, very like dry, just so worth the watch.
- 4:47Speaker 1: He was right, it was. It was very funny and
- 4:48Speaker 1: worth the watch.
- 4:49Speaker 2: There would have been a great sequel title for Eating Raoul,
- 4:52Speaker 2: Eating More Raoul, Second, Helping See there you go. I
- 4:57Speaker 2: heard they're doing a sequel to Fall, and I'm like,
- 4:59Speaker 2: what they're gonna be called Fell? Like, what are we
- 5:01Speaker 2: doing here? Fall two? I Fell again? I can't get up.
- 5:05Speaker 1: Oh then you just, oh, yeah, Eating Raoul seconds?
- 5:09Speaker 2: What?
- 5:10Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 5:10Speaker 2: I was on Fall? Now you went back to Eating Raoul?
- 5:13Speaker 1: Yeah, because that one's more street.
- 5:15Speaker 2: To the point is that the only thing you're gonna
- 5:17Speaker 2: mention that you watched.
- 5:18Speaker 1: Rewatched She Devil for the four hundredth time. That's proving
- 5:24Speaker 1: that Meryl Streep is a camp queen. Uh huh, And
- 5:28Speaker 1: of course I watched the most unhinged Sarah Michelle Geller
- 5:30Speaker 1: movie that is best described by all the reviewers as
- 5:34Speaker 1: a fever dream where she is made better at cooking
- 5:37Speaker 1: by a sentient crab who changes her life.
- 5:40Speaker 2: What year is that from?
- 5:41Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety nine? Two years in the.
- 5:42Speaker 2: Buffet, so we're at ratitude. He definitely ripped that off.
- 5:46Speaker 1: It's not a good movie by any means.
- 5:48Speaker 2: It's got a lot, it doesn't sound good.
- 5:50Speaker 1: It's not good. But I wasn't like, God, this is
- 5:53Speaker 1: terrible the whole time. It was more like what God's
- 5:57Speaker 1: name is happening? But I was also enjoying it like
- 6:00Speaker 1: it was a fun bad movie because it just felt
- 6:03Speaker 1: like nothing was off the table.
- 6:05Speaker 2: That's fair.
- 6:05Speaker 1: Yeah, food that causes you to weep and they're happy
- 6:09Speaker 1: about it. It's strange.
- 6:10Speaker 2: I'll have what she's having, right, Yeah.
- 6:13Speaker 1: There was a few of those moments in there.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Uh. I feel, well, this is a bonus episode, so
- 6:19Speaker 2: I won't have a cult movie challenge this week because
- 6:22Speaker 2: it's not you know, I get a bonus episode, so
- 6:25Speaker 2: there won't be a cult movie challenge. It makes sense.
- 6:28Speaker 2: Just hush, everybody, chill. I rewatched troll Hunter for like
- 6:31Speaker 2: the fourth time, love that movie. Great time. Four and
- 6:34Speaker 2: a half we watched Life of the Party with Melissa.
- 6:39Speaker 1: McCarthy, still a gem of a movie, as Kared Anyone says.
- 6:43Speaker 2: Ultimate mom energy. I watched a new movie for this
- 6:45Speaker 2: year called It's Spelled t I R E s I as.
- 6:51Speaker 2: I thought it was Tiresius, but it's Tyresius and that
- 6:56Speaker 2: was sent over from AV Entertainment. I didn't know it
- 6:59Speaker 2: was twenty twenty sixth movie, but man, I don't know
- 7:03Speaker 2: what happened to that movie. I got excited because it
- 7:05Speaker 2: mentioned serpent people in the description and it felt like
- 7:08Speaker 2: there was zero explanation of that in the movie and
- 7:12Speaker 2: then it just ended. So it's one of those I
- 7:16Speaker 2: feel like I need to know about Greek mythology because
- 7:18Speaker 2: apparently Tyresius was a blind apollo something for Greek mythology.
- 7:23Speaker 2: I'm like, Oh, is this like a metaphor or something.
- 7:27Speaker 1: I'm trying really hard to file through my Xena knowledge
- 7:30Speaker 1: and the name sounds familiar, but I can't place it.
- 7:33Speaker 2: Yeah, and it has something to do with Greek mythology,
- 7:35Speaker 2: and I feel like you need to know about that
- 7:37Speaker 2: to understand this movie and if something if you need
- 7:40Speaker 2: to understand something like that about your movie, that is
- 7:42Speaker 2: not really common knowledge, you know.
- 7:45Speaker 1: It's I don't think that's necessarily unfair to either get.
- 7:50Speaker 2: For an indie movie that this is their first time directing.
- 7:53Speaker 2: Don't let's not crank out a Greek mythology, you know,
- 7:56Speaker 2: metaphor or whatever. I'm just saying.
- 7:58Speaker 1: I don't you know. We have plenty of Shakespeare plays
- 8:02Speaker 1: that get turned into movies that you don't know the play,
- 8:07Speaker 1: Like hell, I just found out that which one is it? It
- 8:13Speaker 1: is John Tucker Must Die is a quasi adaptation of
- 8:19Speaker 1: Mary Wives of Windsor I had no idea.
- 8:22Speaker 2: Okay, let me put it. Let me put it like this.
- 8:24Speaker 2: Then the lighthouse is an allegory for Proteus, and his
- 8:30Speaker 2: name is escaping me right now, you got it, the
- 8:32Speaker 2: guy who gave him fire, Prometheus, Prometheus and Proteus. But
- 8:36Speaker 2: you don't have to know that information to enjoy the lighthouse.
- 8:39Speaker 2: It just adds some context. So at base level you
- 8:43Speaker 2: should be able to enjoy what's going on here without
- 8:46Speaker 2: having to know. And then the knowledge of that Greek,
- 8:50Speaker 2: knowledge of the Greek mythology would enhance this, but there's
- 8:53Speaker 2: just not really much happening in this movie. I guess
- 8:56Speaker 2: that's what I'm trying to get at. If you're going
- 8:58Speaker 2: to do an allegory for or some Greek myth or whatever,
- 9:01Speaker 2: you have to still be able to enjoy the movie
- 9:03Speaker 2: at a base level. And it really had me in
- 9:07Speaker 2: the first act, but then just kept fizzling off and
- 9:09Speaker 2: they weren't explaining fucking anything, and then it just ended.
- 9:13Speaker 2: So I was just very underwhelmed because it had a
- 9:15Speaker 2: pretty strong start.
- 9:17Speaker 1: I gotta say there are instances of that where you
- 9:19Speaker 1: really need to know the play to really understand the movie.
- 9:21Speaker 2: Right.
- 9:22Speaker 1: Rosenkrantz and Gilnedstern are dead highly rated movie. If you
- 9:27Speaker 1: don't know fuck all about Hamlet, that movie makes no
- 9:30Speaker 1: sense because those are characters that die at the start
- 9:33Speaker 1: of the play. They die like in the very start
- 9:36Speaker 1: of that play, and it's basically them as ghosts wandering
- 9:39Speaker 1: around the plot of Hamlet.
- 9:41Speaker 2: That sounds fun.
- 9:41Speaker 1: If you don't know Hamlet, you're gonna be lost, right,
- 9:45Speaker 1: But also they made that movie with a full you
- 9:48Speaker 1: need to know Shakespeare, we're gonna do it a weird
- 9:52Speaker 1: way situation.
- 9:53Speaker 2: I'm all for making a movie that you need to
- 9:55Speaker 2: know stuff on. But that's usually for like seasoned directors.
- 10:00Speaker 2: You don't usually come out of it newbies. I'm just
- 10:02Speaker 2: saying you don't typically come swinging out of the gate
- 10:05Speaker 2: like you need to know Greek mythology. That's not something
- 10:08Speaker 2: the vast majority of Americans at least.
- 10:11Speaker 1: Know, must have five years experience before Austin setting the standard. People, Yeah,
- 10:16Speaker 1: I am come back when you've done more.
- 10:19Speaker 2: I'll come back when I've done more. It's not just that,
- 10:21Speaker 2: it's not just it's me too. It's the one thing. Yeah,
- 10:24Speaker 2: and then we not together separately. Be Uh. I don't
- 10:28Speaker 2: know why. I can't remember. My brain's mush. It's been
- 10:30Speaker 2: a long week, even though it's only Wednesday. That's that's
- 10:33Speaker 2: what's going on.
- 10:34Speaker 1: You were ill.
- 10:35Speaker 2: What's the opposite of Lucid, because that's what.
- 10:36Speaker 1: I'm right now, Delucid Delucid.
- 10:42Speaker 2: We watched They Will Kill You starring Zazi Beats, which
- 10:47Speaker 2: I this might be a hot take, but I don't
- 10:50Speaker 2: feel like the general population who goes to movies knows
- 10:54Speaker 2: how to enjoy them anymore. I don't understand what people want.
- 10:58Speaker 2: This movie was not only fucking bloody shot very stylishly,
- 11:05Speaker 2: but it was hilarious. And there was probably twelve people
- 11:08Speaker 2: in my theater, and me and the three people in
- 11:11Speaker 2: the back were the only ones laughing at anything. Everyone
- 11:13Speaker 2: else was stonefaced. The I kept looking around. Am I
- 11:17Speaker 2: watching the same movie as all these people?
- 11:19Speaker 1: Oh? I found myself laughing too loud because like, because
- 11:23Speaker 1: I'm the only one, I'm laughing full blast, and I'm.
- 11:25Speaker 2: Like, okay, so I'm gonna cuy.
- 11:28Speaker 1: It down because nobody else is laughing at this and
- 11:31Speaker 1: that feels weird.
- 11:32Speaker 2: But and I'm only mentioning this because we both had
- 11:35Speaker 2: the same experience at two different theaters, two different times,
- 11:38Speaker 2: two different times of the week. So it's not like
- 11:40Speaker 2: it was just some fluke for me. It apparently happened
- 11:44Speaker 2: for you as well.
- 11:45Speaker 1: So disappointment. I really wish you had been there so
- 11:48Speaker 1: we could have enjoyed that together because there was so
- 11:51Speaker 1: much stuff I wanted to talk to you about while
- 11:52Speaker 1: we were watching or while I was watching the movie,
- 11:55Speaker 1: and it was so fun. It was just a good time.
- 11:59Speaker 1: And yeah, we've talked about this. They feel like people
- 12:03Speaker 1: get too hung up on is it innovative, is it groundbreaking?
- 12:08Speaker 1: It doesn't need to be not every movie needs to
- 12:12Speaker 1: remake what it means to be in a movie. Everybody
- 12:15Speaker 1: will lose their goddamn mind's over Dune or anything that.
- 12:21Speaker 1: Who's the director. Everyone's obsessed with Christopher Nolan.
- 12:24Speaker 2: I was like, that is so okay.
- 12:25Speaker 1: But Christopher Nolan, I know that. I'm not saying he's
- 12:29Speaker 1: a bad director at all. I'm saying everyone's obsessed with
- 12:32Speaker 1: things he does. Okay, Realistically, his films follow a formula
- 12:37Speaker 1: for how he likes to make films. But you don't
- 12:40Speaker 1: hear about anybody going, oh, it's just another Chris Nolan
- 12:43Speaker 1: copy and paste. No, because Chris Nolan gets passed because
- 12:47Speaker 1: he makes these absolutely massive productions that are really really
- 12:51Speaker 1: well received. But when you get a smaller movie like this,
- 12:54Speaker 1: where it's meant to be fun and it's meant to
- 12:57Speaker 1: be cheesy, Oh it's a garbage movie. It's it's not
- 13:00Speaker 1: a garbage movie just because it's cheesy. Yeah, and it's
- 13:03Speaker 1: cheesy intentionally. And they they put on a lot of
- 13:07Speaker 1: effort to affects set dressings, choreography. They put in a
- 13:13Speaker 1: shit ton of effort and a shit ton of areas,
- 13:15Speaker 1: and people are still crapping on it because no one
- 13:17Speaker 1: wants to be happy watching movies.
- 13:19Speaker 2: Apparently that's the vibe I get going to the theater lately,
- 13:22Speaker 2: because even scared to death, when I saw that, I
- 13:25Speaker 2: was one, I was the only person laughing at things.
- 13:28Speaker 2: And it's like, maybe maybe I things make me laugh easily.
- 13:32Speaker 2: I don't know, Maybe I just know how to enjoy
- 13:34Speaker 2: things more. Yeah, and something's funny happening is like even
- 13:38Speaker 2: if it's cheesy, and it can still be funny. And
- 13:41Speaker 2: no one was laughing, same thing Toxic Avenger. When we went,
- 13:44Speaker 2: we were the only except for the people who were
- 13:46Speaker 2: clearly stoned, that were having a great time in.
- 13:48Speaker 1: Front of them, the best time.
- 13:50Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I don't understand. Do people just go to
- 13:53Speaker 2: movies not knowing what they're seeing? I mean we used
- 13:56Speaker 2: I did that. Well, I'm saying we used to do
- 13:58Speaker 2: that when you know, you had to look at movie
- 14:00Speaker 2: times in the paper. But now with all the stuff
- 14:03Speaker 2: we have in technology, are people just blind watching movies?
- 14:07Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 14:08Speaker 1: And that's the thing, Like I encourage that.
- 14:11Speaker 2: But.
- 14:12Speaker 1: I there's like so many movies where we talk about
- 14:17Speaker 1: this all the time on the podcast. If the effort
- 14:20Speaker 1: is there that means so much, so much, and the
- 14:24Speaker 1: effort was clearly there on this movie. Yeah, and to
- 14:29Speaker 1: me it paid off really well. But like people, I
- 14:31Speaker 1: don't know what it is that people are expecting right now,
- 14:35Speaker 1: but it really feels like people only want art house
- 14:40Speaker 1: films and only art house films. If it's not art house,
- 14:44Speaker 1: it's not brooding, and there's not this suspicious storyline going
- 14:47Speaker 1: on right now, like Baby Doll, that one with Nicole
- 14:51Speaker 1: Kidman that got popular because it's her having an affair
- 14:55Speaker 1: with a younger man, and but it's this whole like
- 14:58Speaker 1: will they won't day? What's going to happen? Is there
- 15:01Speaker 1: going to be like this dirty sex thing going on
- 15:03Speaker 1: that is really popular in movies right now, and that
- 15:06Speaker 1: seems to be like, oh, if it doesn't bring all
- 15:09Speaker 1: that tension in that drama and people just want that
- 15:12Speaker 1: drama to fight off of feet off of rather, then
- 15:15Speaker 1: they're not as interested.
- 15:17Speaker 2: Wonder why they want drama given the current state of
- 15:20Speaker 2: this that I don't want to get political. Yeah, but
- 15:24Speaker 2: never mind.
- 15:25Speaker 1: Like that new Zendia and Rob Pattinson one that's coming out,
- 15:29Speaker 1: I want to see.
- 15:30Speaker 2: That literally called the drama exactly.
- 15:32Speaker 1: But the whole thing is like, what's the secret she tells?
- 15:36Speaker 2: And yeah, oh that's that one. Yeah, oh yeah, where
- 15:41Speaker 2: they're doing the two truths in a.
- 15:42Speaker 1: Lie, tell your most embarrassing secret, and she tells something really.
- 15:47Speaker 2: Awful, which is the worst thing you've done or something.
- 15:49Speaker 1: Someone's already spoiled that, so everyone's like, don't you dare
- 15:52Speaker 1: say a word.
- 15:53Speaker 2: So I've been spoiled.
- 15:54Speaker 1: It like one of those tabloy websites.
- 15:58Speaker 2: I'll go watch that. I forgot it. I've only seen well,
- 16:00Speaker 2: I only saw trailer for it once.
- 16:01Speaker 1: But it's like, oh, it's Zyndaia's not in the movie.
- 16:04Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, I love me some Zendia.
- 16:06Speaker 1: She's a great actress. Then it's not a good movie.
- 16:09Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I don't know.
- 16:11Speaker 1: The bar's way too high, so you're gonna be miserable
- 16:14Speaker 1: every time you go to the movies. It's like Marvel.
- 16:16Speaker 1: I don't care if they're not highbrow films. They're fun
- 16:20Speaker 1: to watch.
- 16:20Speaker 2: They're actively destroying cinema, but you know, it's fine.
- 16:23Speaker 1: You're going to have a good time. It's a superhero movie.
- 16:26Speaker 1: You need to relax.
- 16:28Speaker 2: Yeah, this was really incredible. I figured i'd like it
- 16:32Speaker 2: from the trailer poster stuff like that, But the way
- 16:36Speaker 2: they went with it, I didn't know there was gonna
- 16:38Speaker 2: be a satanic cult, but you know it's in the description.
- 16:41Speaker 2: I guess I had that I knew. I guess I
- 16:43Speaker 2: missed that part, but it was. It was incredible, great
- 16:46Speaker 2: practical effects and even the cast. You know, you've got
- 16:49Speaker 2: Zazi beats Patricia Arcat, Tom Felton, Heather Graham, there was
- 16:54Speaker 2: another one no, and then Patterson Joseph who I thought
- 16:59Speaker 2: I recognize. I thought he was in The New Candy Man,
- 17:02Speaker 2: but I guess he just has a very similar voice
- 17:05Speaker 2: cadence to the guy in Candyman. But great cast. I
- 17:08Speaker 2: mean it does have a three point out of five
- 17:11Speaker 2: on letterbox, which.
- 17:12Speaker 1: Was before it dropped it like a three point four.
- 17:16Speaker 2: I'll be happy with the three, but uh yeah, I
- 17:19Speaker 2: gave it a four and a half, so so did I.
- 17:21Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so much fun with that. And people were
- 17:24Speaker 1: already complaining before it came out, because that's extremely popular now,
- 17:27Speaker 1: is to complain before movies come out.
- 17:29Speaker 2: It's the most popular thing to do. Hate things before
- 17:31Speaker 2: you even give it a chance.
- 17:33Speaker 1: Yeah, that the trailer ruined everything. I seen the trailer,
- 17:39Speaker 1: and while you might think that the trailer is misleading,
- 17:43Speaker 1: and I thought that was great. Great, what you expect
- 17:48Speaker 1: is not what's happening, and that's that's really fun like action.
- 17:52Speaker 1: The misdirections they did in the movie, I was surprised
- 17:55Speaker 1: by Yeah, and in a pleasant way. It was great.
- 17:57Speaker 2: Even in the cold open, I was like, whoad, uh okay,
- 18:01Speaker 2: I was expecting that character to make that choice. Yeah twice. Actually,
- 18:05Speaker 2: so what do you say we get onto the topic
- 18:09Speaker 2: at hand? Here? For sure, you can't speak, all right,
- 18:11Speaker 2: let's roll into the body count, all right. So this
- 18:19Speaker 2: is Fright Night from nineteen eighty five, released on August
- 18:22Speaker 2: second of that year in the US. Rated R for
- 18:25Speaker 2: mild sex and nudity, so vere violence and gore, mild profanity,
- 18:29Speaker 2: mild alcohol, drugs and smoking, and moderate frightening and intense scenes. Interesting.
- 18:34Speaker 2: This is a runtime of one hour and forty six
- 18:36Speaker 2: minutes listed as a straight horror, even though I would
- 18:38Speaker 2: argue there's definitely some mystery in there, maybe some thriller,
- 18:43Speaker 2: but anyways. Directed by Tom Holland, boy, this was really
- 18:46Speaker 2: early in his career before he played Spider Man, when.
- 18:49Speaker 1: He directed where he was born.
- 18:51Speaker 2: Now the other Tom Holland. He directed Child's play from
- 18:55Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight, The Langeleiers and Thinner. He also wrote
- 18:57Speaker 2: this and he wrote everything that I just mentioned, along
- 19:01Speaker 2: with Psycho two and Fright Night from twenty eleven composed
- 19:05Speaker 2: by Brad Fidel, who also did The Terminator one in two,
- 19:08Speaker 2: The Serpent in the Rainbow and True Lies. Cinematography by
- 19:13Speaker 2: Jan Kaiser, who also did the cinematography for Bad Moon,
- 19:17Speaker 2: which is a great werewolf movie. Underrated Fido and The
- 19:21Speaker 2: Thaw edited by Kent Beta. He edited This is Spinal Tap,
- 19:26Speaker 2: Grimlin's to the New Batch and Scooby Doo one in
- 19:29Speaker 2: two starring Chris Sarandon as Jerry Dandridge. He was also
- 19:35Speaker 2: in The Resurrected that we just did recently as Charles
- 19:38Speaker 2: dexter Ward William Ragsdale as Charlie Brewster. Funny enough, he's
- 19:43Speaker 2: also in the sequel Fright Night Part two as the
- 19:45Speaker 2: same character.
- 19:46Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll mention it again. Later he cameoed as
- 19:49Speaker 1: a priest in Renfield.
- 19:51Speaker 2: I was gonna save that for Renfield, but there you go.
- 19:53Speaker 1: Now you can say it in Renfield.
- 19:55Speaker 2: You told me to save it for Renfield and now
- 19:57Speaker 2: you're I.
- 19:57Speaker 1: Said you could do it on the podcast, I said.
- 20:01Speaker 2: Amanda Burse as Amy Peterson. She was in two hundred
- 20:05Speaker 2: and sixty episodes of Married with Children as Marcy Darcy,
- 20:09Speaker 2: which is hilarious. I used to watch that show when
- 20:13Speaker 2: it was the only thing on at five AM, and
- 20:14Speaker 2: I was still up because I was twenty something. Roddy
- 20:17Speaker 2: McDowell as Peter Vincent, who was also in Planet of
- 20:21Speaker 2: the Apes and escaped from Planet of the Apes as Cornelius,
- 20:25Speaker 2: and then conquest of the Planet of the Apes and
- 20:28Speaker 2: battle for the Planet of the Apes is Caesar too
- 20:30Speaker 2: many the the's going on in there? And then we
- 20:33Speaker 2: has Stephen Geoffrey's as Evil Ed. He was also in
- 20:36Speaker 2: nine to seven to six Evil as Hoax. Apparently he
- 20:39Speaker 2: likes to have very bizarre names.
- 20:41Speaker 1: Yes.
- 20:42Speaker 2: Estimated budget of nine million dollars grossing twenty four point
- 20:45Speaker 2: nine million dollars. Filmed in Culver City in Los Angeles, California.
- 20:49Speaker 2: It is not streaming anywhere, and I will reiterate that
- 20:52Speaker 2: it feels like a sin, but you can rent it
- 20:55Speaker 2: on Amazon. For three ninety nine movies that came out
- 20:57Speaker 2: around the same time, we have the Goonies, Daryl Cocoon
- 21:01Speaker 2: returned to Oz, Saint Elmo's Fire, Back to the Future,
- 21:05Speaker 2: Day of the Dead, Red Sonia, National Lampoon's European Vacation,
- 21:09Speaker 2: Pee Wee's Big Adventure, Weird Science, and Real Genius, which
- 21:13Speaker 2: I find hilarious that those came out around the same time,
- 21:16Speaker 2: like back to back. I don't know why teen Wolf
- 21:18Speaker 2: legend and howling to your sister is a werewolf?
- 21:21Speaker 1: I've seen nine of those?
- 21:22Speaker 2: Oh my god, which is that more or less than
- 21:24Speaker 2: the ones you haven't seen?
- 21:26Speaker 1: More?
- 21:27Speaker 2: Okay, so how many have you not seen? Then?
- 21:29Speaker 1: One? Two?
- 21:31Speaker 2: God?
- 21:31Speaker 1: Three? Four?
- 21:34Speaker 2: This game is not fun when there's like fifteen us. Yeah,
- 21:37Speaker 2: this isn't fun. You haven't seen Darryl.
- 21:38Speaker 1: That's true.
- 21:39Speaker 2: You haven't seen Cocoon. You haven't seen it. Sorry, my god,
- 21:43Speaker 2: you haven't seen Have you seen uh A Weird Science
- 21:47Speaker 2: or Real Genius.
- 21:47Speaker 1: I've definitely seen both of those multiple time.
- 21:50Speaker 2: God Jesus Christ return to Oz.
- 21:52Speaker 1: Yep, I haven't seen it.
- 21:53Speaker 2: Uhuh Day of the Dead correct, teen Wolf.
- 21:59Speaker 1: I've seen howling To, Howling To and then European Vacation.
- 22:03Speaker 2: I AMDB summary. Charlie Brewster, a teenager believing that a
- 22:06Speaker 2: newcomer in his neighborhood is a vampire, turns to an
- 22:08Speaker 2: actor and the television hosted horror show for help to
- 22:11Speaker 2: deal with the undead. Let's go into the autopsy.
- 22:16Speaker 1: There's just an extra word there.
- 22:18Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very bizarre. I had to fix that,
- 22:20Speaker 2: fix it and post probably leave all this in overall
- 22:24Speaker 2: thoughts on Fright Night. This was like your second time correct. Cool,
- 22:29Speaker 2: what do we got?
- 22:30Speaker 1: It's a really fun movie, you know me. I love
- 22:33Speaker 1: vampire movies. I'm currently adding all the vampire movies I've
- 22:37Speaker 1: rated on Letterbox into a master list, which it means
- 22:40Speaker 1: I haven't added a bunch that I haven't watched since
- 22:42Speaker 1: I started rating on letterbox. So I'm missing a craft
- 22:46Speaker 1: ton of movies.
- 22:47Speaker 2: Dracula two thousand and three thousand.
- 22:48Speaker 1: They're not on there.
- 22:49Speaker 2: Oh I had to watch those.
- 22:50Speaker 1: Darms, the interview with vampire movies, most of the Twilight movies.
- 22:53Speaker 1: I'm missing a lot of movies on there, so I'm
- 22:56Speaker 1: just adding them as they go along. But I have
- 23:00Speaker 1: seven on there so far, so obviously I like vampire movies. Yeah,
- 23:04Speaker 1: it's weird, so this one's fun. It's very eighties. There's
- 23:09Speaker 1: so much to enjoy with it. They did a lot
- 23:11Speaker 1: of fun. They had a lot of fun with the effects,
- 23:13Speaker 1: with the makeup, and a lot of this What year
- 23:17Speaker 1: did Lost Boys come out?
- 23:19Speaker 2: Eighty seven?
- 23:19Speaker 1: Eighty sevens was the year after two.
- 23:21Speaker 2: Years before, two years before, so this was two years before.
- 23:24Speaker 1: So you can see that Lost Boys had to have
- 23:28Speaker 1: taken some nods from this one, especially with those overhead
- 23:31Speaker 1: flying shots, the POV from the vampires. I love that.
- 23:35Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite things about Lost Boys, is
- 23:37Speaker 1: that flying perspective that works so well. It's just a
- 23:43Speaker 1: really fun movie to watch. It's very quintessential vampire horror,
- 23:47Speaker 1: which is probably why you picked it.
- 23:49Speaker 2: Yeah. I you know, most people might argue knows Faratu
- 23:52Speaker 2: would be essential, Dracula would be essential, And while I'm
- 23:57Speaker 2: not disagreeing with that, I just feel Fright Night was
- 24:03Speaker 2: and this could be totally wrong, Please don't at me.
- 24:07Speaker 2: I feel like Fright Night was one of the first
- 24:09Speaker 2: vampire movies to do something a little different than what
- 24:13Speaker 2: had been happening in the prior fucking fifty years of
- 24:17Speaker 2: vampire movies, because there was a pretty established formula for
- 24:20Speaker 2: a while, which we will get, which we will get into.
- 24:23Speaker 1: And you're you're absolutely correct everything, not literally everything, but
- 24:27Speaker 1: for the majority, because I'm sure there are outliers that
- 24:30Speaker 1: I can't think of off the top of my head.
- 24:31Speaker 2: I've got a whole fan here, don't worry.
- 24:33Speaker 1: They all really follow that Dracula formulae. And while this
- 24:38Speaker 1: one still has those beats hanging out in there, I
- 24:41Speaker 1: get it you don't want to stray too far because
- 24:44Speaker 1: The Lost Boys is the one that really just goes
- 24:47Speaker 1: completely in its own direction as far as like story wise, Yeah,
- 24:51Speaker 1: this one still made a big shift over Yeah, it
- 24:56Speaker 1: made it. It more focused on a teen. The vampire
- 25:00Speaker 1: wasn't some dude who didn't clearly dress like he didn't
- 25:02Speaker 1: know what year it was. Yep, he was living in
- 25:05Speaker 1: a suburban neighborhood. They made big changes that made the
- 25:09Speaker 1: story feel closer to home. Yeah, exactly feels like this
- 25:13Speaker 1: could happen in my neighborhood. Literally, but it gives that vibe.
- 25:17Speaker 2: No, that's what That's how I feel. Overall thoughts for this,
- 25:21Speaker 2: I think this is like my third or fourth time
- 25:22Speaker 2: watching it. I didn't really enjoy it my first time
- 25:26Speaker 2: watching it. I remember being like, Oh, this is what
- 25:29Speaker 2: everyone's freaking out about Sure, it's fine.
- 25:31Speaker 1: I think I was also a little underwhelmed.
- 25:33Speaker 2: Yeah, first time, but then revisiting it the second time,
- 25:36Speaker 2: I remember being Okay, this is this is is good.
- 25:39Speaker 2: And then this time I understood that I'm fully, fully
- 25:43Speaker 2: aware of the merit of this movie. And that's another
- 25:45Speaker 2: reason why I wanted to put it on here, because
- 25:47Speaker 2: I know I'd only seen it twice, and I'd been
- 25:49Speaker 2: a fan of it the second time, but I was wondering,
- 25:51Speaker 2: you know, one more watch to solidify it, or at
- 25:54Speaker 2: least for me. So I just think it's incredible, great
- 25:56Speaker 2: practical effects. This is Tom Holland's directorial debut, which is insane,
- 26:01Speaker 2: solid debut. What a way to come out onto the scene.
- 26:03Speaker 1: Good, good job, not going with any Greek mythology.
- 26:07Speaker 2: Wow, callback Austin would have hated it. I would have
- 26:09Speaker 2: hated it. But yeah, overall, for a nine million dollar budget,
- 26:13Speaker 2: it looks incredible. It is. It is such a great
- 26:16Speaker 2: movie and so many aspects that we will get into.
- 26:18Speaker 2: But I want to start with this is what I
- 26:20Speaker 2: want to start with. When did vampires get sexy? Right?
- 26:24Speaker 2: That's what I want to start with. I have a
- 26:25Speaker 2: whole list here, and I will probably don't know.
- 26:27Speaker 1: Why don't you ask Chris Sarandon?
- 26:29Speaker 2: I will present my case. See, and that's the thing.
- 26:32Speaker 2: I'm not talking middle aged man sexy. I'm talking like hot.
- 26:35Speaker 2: When did vampires get hot?
- 26:37Speaker 1: I don't know, why don't you ask Chris Sarandon.
- 26:40Speaker 2: So starting in nineteen twenty two, nos, farautu, not sexy. No,
- 26:44Speaker 2: In fact, he might be the very polar opposite of sexy.
- 26:48Speaker 2: Dracula nineteen thirty one. Not necessarily hot, but alluring, you know, charming, sophisticated.
- 26:55Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, definitely an allure. Dracula is set up as
- 26:59Speaker 1: an allure. It took a while for him to go
- 27:01Speaker 1: full blown sexy.
- 27:03Speaker 2: Yeah. And then in the thirties you really only had
- 27:05Speaker 2: one other notable vampire movie called Mark of the Vampire.
- 27:10Speaker 2: Bela Legosi was always saying he's playing Count Mora in this,
- 27:14Speaker 2: but still a Dracula character. So again I go back
- 27:16Speaker 2: to not necessarily sexy. And then in the forties you
- 27:19Speaker 2: had a handful Son of Dracula returned Vampire Helser Frankenstein,
- 27:23Speaker 2: House of Dracula, and then ab and Costello meet Frankenstein.
- 27:25Speaker 2: But again Bella Legosi returning for the Abb and Costello,
- 27:29Speaker 2: but they all kind of had the same look in
- 27:30Speaker 2: the forties. Then we get to the fifties and this
- 27:33Speaker 2: is when Hammer takes over. From fifty eight to seventy four,
- 27:36Speaker 2: they make nine vampire movies with Peter Cushing or Christopher Lee.
- 27:42Speaker 2: Now Peter Cushing is always playing Van Helsing. Christopher Lee
- 27:45Speaker 2: is always playing Dracula. But again it's a guy. I
- 27:48Speaker 2: think he was about thirty six when he first did
- 27:50Speaker 2: a Dracula movie, so it's not like he's old. I'm
- 27:52Speaker 2: thirty six. I don't know. I didn't look like Christopher
- 27:55Speaker 2: Lee so attractive. Yes, would you have to look it up?
- 27:59Speaker 1: I just want what he looked like.
- 28:02Speaker 2: Yeah, go look so yeah, the go look up. Hold on,
- 28:06Speaker 2: it's a Dracula movie from nineteen fifty eight, I can't remember,
- 28:09Speaker 2: but it's a Hammer movie.
- 28:11Speaker 1: I was just gonna go to Christopher Lee's page or that.
- 28:14Speaker 2: That's gonna take you a while. He's got hundreds of credits.
- 28:17Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, downsized man.
- 28:19Speaker 2: But anyways, so Hammer in nineteen fifty eight kind of
- 28:22Speaker 2: revolutionized the character by bringing intense gothic color, sexuality, and
- 28:27Speaker 2: violence to the screen, with Christopher Lee kind of becoming
- 28:30Speaker 2: the definitive Dracula for a new generation, and the film
- 28:33Speaker 2: success in nineteen fifty eight spawned the long running series,
- 28:36Speaker 2: starting with Brides of Dracula in nineteen sixty, which I
- 28:39Speaker 2: don't think he's actually in Brides of Dracula given the name.
- 28:43Speaker 2: It's more about the brides.
- 28:44Speaker 1: I think that's what that means.
- 28:46Speaker 2: But so we're getting there, right. Christopher Lee is a
- 28:49Speaker 2: very attractive man. He's a good looking guy. I don't
- 28:52Speaker 2: necessarily think he's sexy.
- 28:54Speaker 1: Sounds like you like him or hot? Is it Horror
- 28:57Speaker 1: of Dracula?
- 28:57Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah. So then we get to the seventies,
- 29:02Speaker 2: the sixties is kind of like Hammer is just dominating
- 29:04Speaker 2: vampire films for the sixties. Sure, there's some other ones
- 29:08Speaker 2: thrown in there, but Hammer is pretty much the one
- 29:10Speaker 2: cranking out all the Dracula movies. And then we get
- 29:12Speaker 2: to the seventies and we get Blacula in seventy two,
- 29:14Speaker 2: William Marshall again good looking dude, not necessarily young, hip, trendy, sexy,
- 29:22Speaker 2: and then of course he would come back the year
- 29:24Speaker 2: later to do Scream Blacula Scream, and then another notable
- 29:27Speaker 2: one from the seventies would be Dracula with Franklin Langello
- 29:31Speaker 2: very much a Christopher Lee, Jerry Dandridge or Chris Sarandon
- 29:36Speaker 2: type character. So all of the Draculas from fifties, sixties,
- 29:40Speaker 2: seventies had the even the eighties had the same look.
- 29:43Speaker 2: Yeah for the most part. But the first yeah, the
- 29:47Speaker 2: first movie where I think vampires and this is weird
- 29:50Speaker 2: because you know, I'm not huge on this movie is
- 29:52Speaker 2: The Lost Boys. I think that's the first one to
- 29:54Speaker 2: make them young, hip, trendy.
- 29:59Speaker 1: I think, yeah, so the thing is is and by
- 30:02Speaker 1: the way, you are much more handsome at him than
- 30:05Speaker 1: him at that age. No, no, I just looked at
- 30:08Speaker 1: a picture and I'm saying definitively so ar.
- 30:11Speaker 2: You with No, I am not more than but thank you.
- 30:15Speaker 1: I am in charge of that decision.
- 30:18Speaker 2: AnyWho, I'm gonna call Christopher Lee now, uh yeah.
- 30:23Speaker 1: Because I was gonna say, when did my best Friends
- 30:25Speaker 1: of Vampire came out? Come out of the eighty seven?
- 30:28Speaker 1: It's the eighties. So Lost Boys is obviously vampires, but
- 30:34Speaker 1: has this Peter Pan thing going to it? These these
- 30:39Speaker 1: you know, the Lost Boys, Peter Pan's Lost Boys?
- 30:42Speaker 2: Oh yeah, ever grow up? Yes, I wasn't thinking the name.
- 30:45Speaker 2: I was thinking the story and I thought, I wow.
- 30:48Speaker 1: No, there's like this, not to that. But yeah, before that,
- 30:52Speaker 1: it's always one guy, one cryptic guy, one person knows
- 30:59Speaker 1: everybody else doesn't believe him, or he hasn't warned the
- 31:02Speaker 1: right people. Blah blah blah blah blah.
- 31:04Speaker 2: It's formulaic in a sense. They're doing different things, but
- 31:07Speaker 2: they just had they had a formula for so long.
- 31:09Speaker 2: Yeahs isn't a problem.
- 31:11Speaker 1: Chris Sarandon, he took that and went his character. It was, well,
- 31:16Speaker 1: he doesn't need to he can be a vampire. He
- 31:20Speaker 1: can be scary, and he can do the Dracula stick.
- 31:24Speaker 1: Oh there's a girl from my past, and okay, he
- 31:28Speaker 1: doesn't need to dress like he doesn't know what fucking
- 31:30Speaker 1: year it is. Yeah, and so they and they put
- 31:33Speaker 1: him in those modern clothes and he got more and
- 31:35Speaker 1: suddenly vampire. Oh that's a little bit sexy. Like he's
- 31:38Speaker 1: a good looking dude. He's dressed very well.
- 31:41Speaker 2: He hit the drip is unfucking nice.
- 31:43Speaker 1: Sweaters so good. I was just like, I'm watching him,
- 31:47Speaker 1: is like, damn, is Chris Sarandon hotter than I remember?
- 31:51Speaker 2: No, he's always been that hot.
- 31:52Speaker 1: He's looking kind of rough.
- 31:54Speaker 2: In the Resurrection, well, yeah, he's he's slowly deteriorating, which
- 31:58Speaker 2: in this the complete opposite. He's just living forever.
- 32:01Speaker 1: And the Princess Bride, he's dressed for a ren fair
- 32:04Speaker 1: and the best way possible. But still yeah, and this
- 32:07Speaker 1: one he is dressed sleek, he is dressed modern. We
- 32:10Speaker 1: don't get that. And yeah, and then right after that
- 32:13Speaker 1: you get Lost Boys, where I remember reading about the
- 32:17Speaker 1: costume director saying that the costume designer saying that she
- 32:23Speaker 1: put these teenagers in these costumes that felt reminiscent of
- 32:27Speaker 1: the time. They were changed, right, but still very much
- 32:31Speaker 1: felt like they were current. They were alternative but still current.
- 32:37Speaker 1: And yeah, they're sexy and like the two of the
- 32:43Speaker 1: guys look like they're in an eighties metal band. I
- 32:46Speaker 1: mean they all look like that, but you know what
- 32:47Speaker 1: I'm saying. And then you get a really hot teen
- 32:51Speaker 1: guy who's looks a little bit bad but he's really
- 32:55Speaker 1: like a straight laced older brother and turn him into
- 32:58Speaker 1: a vampire. Yeah, now, are really hot.
- 33:02Speaker 2: It reminds me very much of Sinners, where they showed
- 33:06Speaker 2: that people in the like not in the future but
- 33:08Speaker 2: later in time, and they had dressed accordingly, because it
- 33:12Speaker 2: feels like that's what would happen if you're around for
- 33:14Speaker 2: that long. Where are you getting these garments? What are
- 33:17Speaker 2: they hundreds of years old? You think you would adapt
- 33:20Speaker 2: to modern times. So it just makes sense that you
- 33:24Speaker 2: would dress in the decade that you're living and you're
- 33:26Speaker 2: you don't stand out like a sore thumb.
- 33:28Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love that they poke fun of that
- 33:30Speaker 1: in what we do with the Shadow or what we
- 33:32Speaker 1: do in the Shadows or like everybody is in the
- 33:36Speaker 1: Moo in the movie version, they're trying to dress modern,
- 33:38Speaker 1: but they have no friggin idea. But they also can't
- 33:40Speaker 1: see themselves, and that's true show they're all dressing for
- 33:45Speaker 1: older time periods. They're all dressing vintage essentially. But yeah,
- 33:51Speaker 1: it's funny because you you see what year you're in
- 33:54Speaker 1: if you see other people. This starts to imply that, yeah, vampire,
- 33:59Speaker 1: these vampires aren't just chilling out in crips and waiting
- 34:02Speaker 1: for bodies people to drop by for them to eat.
- 34:05Speaker 1: These vampires are getting out in the world.
- 34:07Speaker 2: They're doing things.
- 34:08Speaker 1: And it actually adds another layer though, because that means
- 34:11Speaker 1: if these vampires are getting out and being social, and
- 34:13Speaker 1: they're not just waiting for someone to roll up sacrifice
- 34:16Speaker 1: to their house. They could be anywhere. They could be
- 34:20Speaker 1: Anyone who you meet at night isn't safe.
- 34:22Speaker 2: Right, And yeah, so I really appreciate that this movie
- 34:27Speaker 2: did something, at least to my knowledge. If I'm wrong,
- 34:29Speaker 2: please correct me. But it does feel like Fright Night
- 34:31Speaker 2: was kind of a turning point for vampires. And even
- 34:35Speaker 2: with the lower we all know that I'm head or
- 34:38Speaker 2: mess with the lower. Just as long as you explain
- 34:41Speaker 2: it and don't get weird with it, I'm fine. So
- 34:44Speaker 2: we find out holy water apparently has no effect on
- 34:46Speaker 2: them because Chris sarand and drank holy water and then
- 34:48Speaker 2: they never really bring it up again. So I'm assuming
- 34:51Speaker 2: holy water in this case doesn't do anything.
- 34:53Speaker 1: It might be like the Cross, where you have to
- 34:55Speaker 1: really believe, have it faith.
- 34:57Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the thing. The crucifixes work. You have
- 35:00Speaker 2: to have not necessarily believe in God, but you have
- 35:03Speaker 2: to have faith that it's going to work. I don't know,
- 35:05Speaker 2: it's kind of lose with the trip.
- 35:07Speaker 1: Believe that the power of that cross is real.
- 35:10Speaker 2: Is real, and then all wood hurts them like Jerry
- 35:14Speaker 2: gets stabbed in the hand with a pencil and his
- 35:16Speaker 2: hand starts smoking. I thought that was a really fun
- 35:18Speaker 2: time of it's not doesn't have to just be a
- 35:21Speaker 2: wooden stake through the heart. Any amount of wood stabbing
- 35:24Speaker 2: them anywhere is going to hurt them to some degree.
- 35:26Speaker 2: That is a natural like how we take established vampire
- 35:31Speaker 2: lore and just make it a little bit different, but
- 35:34Speaker 2: it's not that drastically different. And then no shadows or
- 35:37Speaker 2: reflections of course having to be invited in. You got
- 35:39Speaker 2: your traditional stuff. Garlic is jokingly mentioned once and then
- 35:43Speaker 2: never brought up again. I also like that, you know,
- 35:47Speaker 2: Jerry d Andreds can eat he's eating things and I
- 35:49Speaker 2: have a fun trivia on that we'll we'll do later
- 35:52Speaker 2: because it doesn't make It's never made sense to me
- 35:54Speaker 2: that vampires they just can't eat human food anymore. I
- 35:57Speaker 2: don't know, it's just it's just a weird thing that
- 35:59Speaker 2: doesn't really make any sense. Although it's vampires that aren't
- 36:02Speaker 2: really real, so you can do whatever you want, but
- 36:05Speaker 2: I just always found an odd that you couldn't eat
- 36:07Speaker 2: real food now and what we do in the shadows,
- 36:09Speaker 2: it's hilarious when they all throw up. That's that's great.
- 36:11Speaker 2: I'll accept it then because they did something hilarious with it.
- 36:14Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's really hit or missed with whether or
- 36:17Speaker 1: not that's true. Like we were talking about, we were
- 36:21Speaker 1: watching you know, Buffy Vampire Diaries. Yeah, they can eat,
- 36:25Speaker 1: they can drink. In fact, Vampire Diaries heavily sets up
- 36:29Speaker 1: that them drinking like alcohol helps them curb the bloodlust.
- 36:35Speaker 1: So if they are it makes them less murder crazy. Yeah,
- 36:39Speaker 1: that's interesting. That's different. Not a really good precedent for
- 36:43Speaker 1: a teen show.
- 36:44Speaker 2: But you know, everybody get drunk.
- 36:46Speaker 1: It's better for you. But in other ones, yeah, they
- 36:50Speaker 1: they're like, no, we can't eat it, we can't stomach it.
- 36:53Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't work on us. It's kind of confusing.
- 36:57Speaker 1: I think in some instances it's really just a plot device.
- 37:01Speaker 1: Do you want it to be easier for them to tell,
- 37:04Speaker 1: like something's off you never eat, or do you want
- 37:07Speaker 1: them to blend and make it harder for people to
- 37:09Speaker 1: know they're a vampire?
- 37:10Speaker 2: Well, and in this he only eats a specific type
- 37:13Speaker 2: of food. And I'll get to why. Yeah, so we're following.
- 37:17Speaker 2: I mean, the movie follows Charlie Brewster, who is to
- 37:20Speaker 2: me exactly the kid who would not survive a horror movie. Yes,
- 37:24Speaker 2: as he loves vampires but apparently has no idea what
- 37:29Speaker 2: the fucking lore is. I know, I don't know why
- 37:33Speaker 2: I didn't make that connection until this time, but he
- 37:36Speaker 2: literally loves Peter Vincent, who is a vampire hunter on TV,
- 37:39Speaker 2: doesn't know the rules, has to go talk to Evil
- 37:41Speaker 2: led what I'm sorry.
- 37:45Speaker 1: And to take it a step further, this man has
- 37:48Speaker 1: never heard the word subtlety in his life. He is
- 37:50Speaker 1: literally just yelling from the fucking rooftops that this dude
- 37:54Speaker 1: is a vampire, screaming it everywhere. It is like, bro,
- 37:59Speaker 1: you could have because he at first he's like, well,
- 38:00Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say vampire because then the cops won't
- 38:03Speaker 1: show up. But the second his plan with the cops
- 38:06Speaker 1: starts to go awry, he just says fuck it, starts
- 38:08Speaker 1: yelling about vampires, and then spends the rest of the
- 38:11Speaker 1: movie loudly proclaiming within earshot of a vampire that he
- 38:15Speaker 1: knows he's a vampire, and he's like, bro, subtlety, do
- 38:20Speaker 1: you not understand that Jerry gave you an out, a
- 38:24Speaker 1: straight up out of this entire situation? All you had
- 38:27Speaker 1: to say was and I understand you to want other
- 38:29Speaker 1: people to get killed. You don't really say that, but
- 38:31Speaker 1: I'm guessing that's why you don't want to take the out. Yeah, Bro,
- 38:35Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave you alone and then go formulate a
- 38:39Speaker 1: fucking plan. How the fuck's he gonna know you were lying?
- 38:42Speaker 1: Like boys, dumb.
- 38:44Speaker 2: Boy's dumb. And even if he told his mom that
- 38:49Speaker 2: Jerry was a vampire, she wouldn't know. You know, no
- 38:51Speaker 2: one believes him, so that wouldn't have helped with him
- 38:54Speaker 2: being invited into the house. But I do love the
- 38:56Speaker 2: fact that after he comes back from finding out the
- 39:00Speaker 2: vampire lore from Evil Ed's house, he's already in the house.
- 39:04Speaker 2: So if you didn't leave, he probably wouldn't have been
- 39:06Speaker 2: in the house.
- 39:08Speaker 1: Yeah, and he really isn't reliable to anybody, so he's
- 39:12Speaker 1: not to be believed because, Yeah, he's really big into horror.
- 39:16Speaker 1: Apparently in theory, maybe it's just the background noise he
- 39:21Speaker 1: likes when he's making out. Maybe, and he's really into horror,
- 39:26Speaker 1: but he doesn't know shit about horror. He is a
- 39:30Speaker 1: terrible boyfriend, just a fuck awful boyfriend, like Bro cannot
- 39:35Speaker 1: manage that relationship to save his life. So the fact
- 39:37Speaker 1: that it's made it a year is amazing.
- 39:40Speaker 2: Well, I think we're coming in at a point in
- 39:42Speaker 2: time when all of the stuff is happening, and it's
- 39:44Speaker 2: weird for him, you know, So he keeps getting distracted,
- 39:49Speaker 2: just at the complete wrong moments your girlfriend is speaking
- 39:53Speaker 2: to you. At least say one second, he just gets
- 39:57Speaker 2: up and walks like this.
- 39:59Speaker 1: Yeah, he does served everything she gave him, especially that
- 40:03Speaker 1: burger to the face.
- 40:04Speaker 2: Oh great, that's good stuff.
- 40:05Speaker 1: Uh, good for her? Does she? Her apologizing absolutely bugged
- 40:09Speaker 1: the shit out of me. I need to say sorry.
- 40:11Speaker 2: Sorry for what's my fault? No, it's not, it's my fault.
- 40:14Speaker 1: I wasn't ready to move on to the next step,
- 40:17Speaker 1: and you got upset.
- 40:18Speaker 2: Clearly written by a man.
- 40:20Speaker 1: What because like, I don't care if it's been a year,
- 40:22Speaker 1: you don't want to wait that long? Go dat someone
- 40:25Speaker 1: who's easy, yeah, or I don't want to say easy.
- 40:28Speaker 1: But you know someone who doesn't want to wait that long.
- 40:30Speaker 1: She wants to wait three years, that's her business.
- 40:33Speaker 2: That's the most unrealistic part of this movie is that
- 40:35Speaker 2: a kid that age would wait a hear But.
- 40:37Speaker 1: Even if she did, that's her business.
- 40:39Speaker 2: And it's oh no, no, no, no, I'm with you. It's just like, but.
- 40:43Speaker 1: If you're apologizing, you got to leave his ass to
- 40:48Speaker 1: the therapy might help. At least he came back round
- 40:50Speaker 1: in the clutch and was like fighting tooth and nailed
- 40:52Speaker 1: the saver. Yeah, but he really sucks as a boyfriend.
- 40:55Speaker 2: It just sucks as a person, which is so funny
- 40:58Speaker 2: because he's our central character basically, and I don't really
- 41:02Speaker 2: like him, but I don't really, I don't. He's not
- 41:05Speaker 2: hate able, but I'm boy, you dumb? What are you doing?
- 41:10Speaker 1: Yeah, And the fact that your friends are treating this
- 41:13Speaker 1: whole thing like a joke because they think the whole
- 41:15Speaker 1: thing's ridiculous and they're trying to snap you back to
- 41:17Speaker 1: reality just speaks to how often you likely get into
- 41:21Speaker 1: these situations where you just freak out over something.
- 41:25Speaker 2: I mean, I frequently tell you guys about vampires, and
- 41:28Speaker 2: I'm never taken seriously.
- 41:29Speaker 1: So yes, yes, so.
- 41:30Speaker 2: What Charlie The neighbor moves in almost immediately, And I
- 41:34Speaker 2: really like how the movie doesn't rush things, but it
- 41:37Speaker 2: also doesn't waste time.
- 41:39Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 41:39Speaker 2: I feel the keeps the steady pace. I feel the
- 41:41Speaker 2: pacing in this is very good, and then by the
- 41:43Speaker 2: third act everything ramps up into oblivion. But I mean,
- 41:46Speaker 2: I think we're all on the same page that the
- 41:48Speaker 2: first I was. You know, the coffin's the first thing
- 41:52Speaker 2: he sees, and just like him, vampire. There's no other
- 41:55Speaker 2: explanation for bringing a coffin to the basement.
- 41:58Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's exactly what the fuck I'd be
- 42:00Speaker 1: thinking it's a vampire.
- 42:02Speaker 2: Or someone has a very weird kink or something. I
- 42:05Speaker 2: don't know.
- 42:06Speaker 1: I will say we are at low risk for vampires
- 42:09Speaker 1: because it's Florida, so it's seemly sunny and there are
- 42:13Speaker 1: no basements.
- 42:14Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that definitely feels like they'd be more like
- 42:17Speaker 2: a Seattle area.
- 42:18Speaker 1: Oh that'd be fun vampires in Miami.
- 42:20Speaker 2: Like Vice City vampires. I like it.
- 42:24Speaker 1: We don't have the budget going.
- 42:25Speaker 2: No, no, no, he doesn't, so you know, he doesn't
- 42:27Speaker 2: write anything off. He sees the coffin, he sees what
- 42:32Speaker 2: does he see next? The girl? Oh, the girl? That
- 42:36Speaker 2: one girl disappears and then he sees Jerry's teeth and
- 42:39Speaker 2: his long fingers with the other girl. Yeah, and he's like, well,
- 42:43Speaker 2: that's a vampire, you know. And I'm just gonna, Like
- 42:46Speaker 2: I said, you know, I'm gonna. I'll say it again,
- 42:48Speaker 2: this move, this entire movie could have been avoided if
- 42:50Speaker 2: he just minded his own fucking business.
- 42:52Speaker 1: Also could have been avoided if Jerry closed his fucking
- 42:54Speaker 1: blinds and didn't have Hooker showing up to the neighbor's house.
- 42:57Speaker 2: And uh just taking their shirts off right next to
- 43:00Speaker 2: the window, as everybody does in every movie ever.
- 43:03Speaker 1: Also, maybe have your coffin delivered a little more subtly
- 43:06Speaker 1: than a very exposed coffin. You could have put that
- 43:09Speaker 1: in a different fucking box and then put it in
- 43:12Speaker 1: a box.
- 43:12Speaker 2: Put it in a box and throw it downstairs or
- 43:14Speaker 2: back the van up that you had, you know, and to.
- 43:16Speaker 1: The entrance, And like Jerry could have played it way
- 43:20Speaker 1: fucking cooler.
- 43:21Speaker 2: I just at this point, I think he's at a
- 43:22Speaker 2: point in his vampire life where he just doesn't give
- 43:24Speaker 2: a fuck, you know. But I think that's what makes
- 43:27Speaker 2: this movie so fun, because we the audience are with
- 43:31Speaker 2: Charlie and everyone else in the movie is playing catch up.
- 43:34Speaker 2: So it's a fun dynamic with the movie where uh,
- 43:38Speaker 2: not everyone believes him, you know, we believe him because
- 43:41Speaker 2: we're seeing it from his point of view. So watching
- 43:43Speaker 2: everyone finally have it click for them at different points
- 43:47Speaker 2: in the movie is great because the first person to
- 43:50Speaker 2: verify it outside of Charlie is Peter Vincent when he
- 43:54Speaker 2: sees no reflection in his mirror, and then Ed and
- 43:59Speaker 2: Amy they still don't believe him, and then what takes
- 44:02Speaker 2: Ed believing is being cornered by him yep, getting turned
- 44:06Speaker 2: into a vampire. And then Amy just has that moment
- 44:10Speaker 2: at the club where she's basically he's using his allure
- 44:13Speaker 2: to bring her over and do things against her will,
- 44:16Speaker 2: which very creepy because she's supposed to be in high
- 44:19Speaker 2: school and he is clearly in his thirties. But in
- 44:22Speaker 2: real life she is twenty seven and he's thirty three.
- 44:26Speaker 2: Made me feel a lot better.
- 44:27Speaker 1: I was like, just just if it helps, I checked
- 44:29Speaker 1: her age. She's twenty seven, so in real life she
- 44:31Speaker 1: is not a.
- 44:31Speaker 2: Teenage It helps so much more. But yeah, even still,
- 44:33Speaker 2: it's like, why are we making Why are we making
- 44:36Speaker 2: her a teenager and this man clearly someone in his thirties.
- 44:39Speaker 1: They also gave her some just absolutely abomination hairdoos, like
- 44:43Speaker 1: these really punky bruser ass but she's got a pixie
- 44:47Speaker 1: hair ties in her hair to make her look younger,
- 44:50Speaker 1: which I was like, why does she look like a
- 44:52Speaker 1: grown adult with really dumb hair? And then the more
- 44:55Speaker 1: he allures her and dances her, the more feathered upwards
- 44:57Speaker 1: her hair goes, and now she looks like she's in herd.
- 45:00Speaker 2: It's a full grown adult mother of two.
- 45:02Speaker 1: And yeah, I think it's honestly, if we really think
- 45:07Speaker 1: about it, if you really think about it, Charlie only
- 45:09Speaker 1: fucking makes it so far through this film because of
- 45:13Speaker 1: Jerry's good graces. Charlie repeatedly outs him, and Jerry's like,
- 45:19Speaker 1: stop sucking around with me, kid, Hey, don't do that, hey, Ed.
- 45:24Speaker 1: Then they realize they know. He immediately offs Ed. Ten
- 45:29Speaker 1: seconds into finding out that they all, they definitely all know,
- 45:34Speaker 1: he goes and kills Ed immediately.
- 45:36Speaker 2: Well, I mean he makes him into a vampire.
- 45:38Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm saying he didn't do that with Charlie.
- 45:40Speaker 1: He harassed Charlie in his home. He let Charlie enter
- 45:43Speaker 1: his home and put on this whole dumb ass charade
- 45:46Speaker 1: that he didn't have to do for. Yeah, he's literally
- 45:51Speaker 1: letting all these shenanigans happy happen and letting Charlie wander
- 45:55Speaker 1: around and just freaking Charlie out for fun. Ed dies immediately,
- 45:59Speaker 1: Edly involved and Ed dies immediately.
- 46:02Speaker 2: So Charlie, it's Amy because that's the well.
- 46:05Speaker 1: Yeah, but he could have absolutely killed Charlie.
- 46:08Speaker 2: Yeah, killed Ed.
- 46:09Speaker 1: Amy's just a sitting fucking duck. She doesn't know vampire lore.
- 46:13Speaker 1: He literally just has to wait till she's alone, which
- 46:17Speaker 1: would be a lot faster if everybody else was dead
- 46:20Speaker 1: and get her.
- 46:21Speaker 2: So is that is that an issue for you in
- 46:22Speaker 2: the movie?
- 46:23Speaker 1: Then? No? I just think it's really funny that Charlie's
- 46:26Speaker 1: only alive because Jerry just didn't feel like killing him
- 46:30Speaker 1: right away.
- 46:31Speaker 2: Maybe he's just playing with this food, you know.
- 46:33Speaker 1: Fucking Shenhannikan.
- 46:34Speaker 2: He's just he's he's just having fun.
- 46:37Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, literally because Jerry has some sort of
- 46:40Speaker 1: weird whimsy around Charlie and everybody else is fucked.
- 46:45Speaker 2: Maybe he's just impressed at the Charlie's gusto for being
- 46:49Speaker 2: so unabashedly loud about fake. Is that the right word, unabashedly?
- 46:55Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he must find Charlie really amusing because he's
- 46:58Speaker 1: got to. But Charlie be one dead so much faster
- 47:03Speaker 1: this movie would have been over so much quicker. If
- 47:05Speaker 1: Jerry was like any other vampire, I don't have time
- 47:08Speaker 1: for this snap.
- 47:09Speaker 2: Yeah end, But I think, yeah, I just think he finds.
- 47:13Speaker 2: I really do. I think he finds. Charlie's just so fascinating, Like, boy,
- 47:17Speaker 2: what are you doing?
- 47:18Speaker 1: You're dumb as hell?
- 47:19Speaker 2: Dumb as hell?
- 47:20Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? You got the cops here,
- 47:22Speaker 1: and you still didn't succeed Congress.
- 47:23Speaker 2: That was That was such a great scene because he
- 47:26Speaker 2: brings the cop there, which, by the way, would never
- 47:29Speaker 2: happen if you brought a cop there for uh, you know,
- 47:33Speaker 2: I guess it was missing women, so I guess whatever.
- 47:35Speaker 2: You know, Charlie would have been fine. But he the
- 47:37Speaker 2: cop doesn't bring the lieutenant, actually doesn't bring backup. He
- 47:41Speaker 2: brings Charlie with him, which I don't know. Maybe the
- 47:43Speaker 2: eighties were different, but today that wouldn't happen.
- 47:45Speaker 1: He wouldn't bring the person with you to the house.
- 47:47Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess you know he's tying it to
- 47:50Speaker 2: the missing girls. But then it comes out that he
- 47:52Speaker 2: thinks Jerry's a vampire, and then everyone just laughs in
- 47:55Speaker 2: Charlie's face, and then of course the cop is very
- 47:58Speaker 2: unhappy with him like, if you ever survivor see you again,
- 48:01Speaker 2: I'm gonna arrest you for life. That's not how that works.
- 48:04Speaker 2: But okay, what are the charges here?
- 48:06Speaker 1: Sure?
- 48:07Speaker 2: Sure so? And I mean to be fair, if someone
- 48:11Speaker 2: came up to me and you know, it was like
- 48:13Speaker 2: my neighbor's a vampire, I'm not grabbing my cross. I'm
- 48:16Speaker 2: gonna say I think you need to go to a
- 48:17Speaker 2: therapist because those aren't real until you show me the proof. Okay,
- 48:23Speaker 2: that's very strange, but all right. So after he's exhausted
- 48:27Speaker 2: all of his friends, his family, who does he go
- 48:30Speaker 2: to or the police? Who does he go to? A
- 48:33Speaker 2: fictional person on TV who slays vampires? Which it doesn't
- 48:38Speaker 2: It doesn't hurt my rating or affect how I like
- 48:41Speaker 2: the movie, But it makes no goddamn sense to go
- 48:45Speaker 2: to someone who plays a vampire hunter on TV and
- 48:48Speaker 2: be like, can you help me with the real one? No?
- 48:53Speaker 2: What do you mean? It makes absolutely no sense?
- 48:56Speaker 1: Tegers.
- 48:57Speaker 2: I mean, I guess that's fair. I mean I would
- 48:59Speaker 2: do some dumb shit too, But it's just so funny
- 49:01Speaker 2: because he comes up to him, He's like, Oh, you
- 49:04Speaker 2: just want you know, you just want to an autograph
- 49:07Speaker 2: or something. Well, you can't blame him. But then when
- 49:11Speaker 2: he's like, oh you you think a vampires and okay,
- 49:14Speaker 2: I'm gonna go now. I just thought that was such
- 49:17Speaker 2: a great moment because he was just figuring he was
- 49:19Speaker 2: a fan, but no, he needs help with the vampire
- 49:22Speaker 2: in real life, something Peter Vinton really has not qualified
- 49:25Speaker 2: to do well.
- 49:26Speaker 1: And I think Charlie starts out by asking him like
- 49:30Speaker 1: you really you know, kind of leads into it, like
- 49:32Speaker 1: do you really believe and he's like, yeah, I totally believe.
- 49:35Speaker 2: Because he's also said that on the last episode he
- 49:37Speaker 2: was watching before he went to meet him. Yeah, he
- 49:39Speaker 2: really believes in vampires.
- 49:40Speaker 1: So maybe that's why, because he believes being that it's
- 49:45Speaker 1: more than that.
- 49:45Speaker 2: Character in earnest about what he's saying.
- 49:47Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think that's why is because he felt
- 49:51Speaker 1: that was in earnest and so he went with it.
- 49:54Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know who the hell else to
- 49:56Speaker 1: talk to. Nobody believes me, but if this guy believes
- 49:58Speaker 1: in vampires, he might be able to help somewhere or another. Yeah,
- 50:02Speaker 1: it's like I need a fucking adult.
- 50:04Speaker 2: Yeah, I need I need an adult. But you know,
- 50:07Speaker 2: Peter Vincent thought he was signing up for a weird
- 50:10Speaker 2: fan interaction, not a boss fight with Jerry's character. But also,
- 50:14Speaker 2: how accessible is this man? He goes he is way
- 50:17Speaker 2: too easy to track down for a TV I mean,
- 50:20Speaker 2: I guess that was maybe that was local cable possibly,
- 50:24Speaker 2: but like, he just seems very accessible because Charlie's able
- 50:28Speaker 2: to get to him in the production lot, ed and
- 50:30Speaker 2: Amy find his apartment. Like, how easy is it to
- 50:34Speaker 2: find this guy?
- 50:36Speaker 1: He's not well guarded as a secret.
- 50:38Speaker 2: I guess not. And I mean, you know, you had
- 50:39Speaker 2: the phone book in the eighties. But this is this
- 50:43Speaker 2: is where I love. I think the movie does something
- 50:46Speaker 2: really smart here because it forces it forces Peter to
- 50:49Speaker 2: confront the truth because he's, you know, he's out of work,
- 50:52Speaker 2: he's facing eviction. Amy offers him five hundred dollars, and
- 50:55Speaker 2: he's like, oh, sure, I'll do it for five hundred dollars,
- 50:57Speaker 2: I'll go do that. So if she didn't offer that
- 50:59Speaker 2: five hundred dollars, he wouldn't have actually realized that vampires
- 51:02Speaker 2: were real. So I think it's fun that he's not
- 51:05Speaker 2: playing a character who's tackling vampires. He's actually doing or
- 51:10Speaker 2: trying to at least. I think that's a fun moment.
- 51:13Speaker 2: And of course that's Peter realizes he does when he
- 51:16Speaker 2: doesn't have a reflection. And if you notice too, there's
- 51:19Speaker 2: no mirrors in his house, which would be I mean,
- 51:22Speaker 2: it's not like a red flag, but there a mirror.
- 51:25Speaker 2: You know, there's mirrors in this house.
- 51:28Speaker 1: Yeah, but in our like main living area, there's one
- 51:31Speaker 1: very small mirror.
- 51:33Speaker 2: That's true. We have her, Yeah, that's true.
- 51:35Speaker 1: Because her like, Yeah, her play area has as mirrors
- 51:39Speaker 1: in well.
- 51:39Speaker 2: With a house like Jerry's, there's there's always antique mirror.
- 51:43Speaker 2: There's always a ten foot mirror somewhere. So I really
- 51:48Speaker 2: like that, and I feel like the movie knows when
- 51:52Speaker 2: to be funny and knows when to be scary too.
- 51:55Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 51:55Speaker 2: It plays a very good back and forth because you
- 51:59Speaker 2: have moments that are horrifying and then you have moments
- 52:03Speaker 2: that are hilarious, like the moments that feel genuinely tense,
- 52:07Speaker 2: like when Jerry starts closing in on Charlie and all
- 52:09Speaker 2: that stuff. All those moments are offset by humor that
- 52:12Speaker 2: feels natural and not forced in there. Yeah, like Ed's character,
- 52:16Speaker 2: I know you didn't like, I just love him because
- 52:19Speaker 2: what is this character on because I'll have two.
- 52:22Speaker 1: He's just his flack was grating.
- 52:24Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's fine. He's just such a goofball. But
- 52:28Speaker 2: I just think the I think the balance of comedy
- 52:30Speaker 2: and horror works very very well because there's clearly things
- 52:33Speaker 2: that are meant to be funny and meant to be scary,
- 52:35Speaker 2: and they mix them quite well. How did you feel
- 52:38Speaker 2: about the mixing of those now, I.
- 52:40Speaker 1: Thought they did a great job. I always like when
- 52:43Speaker 1: they have some levity in there, because if you you
- 52:46Speaker 1: can't take it too seriously, there are some silly moments
- 52:50Speaker 1: in life and that's natural. We've talked about that. Yeah,
- 52:53Speaker 1: but you know, it is still scary. They had a
- 52:57Speaker 1: lot of fun with it. They played around with it.
- 52:59Speaker 1: They didn't settle too hard anywhere with what they were doing,
- 53:03Speaker 1: and I think that really helped because prior to this,
- 53:07Speaker 1: vampire movies may have been cheesy in an aspect, but
- 53:09Speaker 1: they're all plays seriously, pretty serious, pretty serious. So to
- 53:14Speaker 1: move into a there is comedy in that area to
- 53:19Speaker 1: be worked with. Because you also see that Lost Boys,
- 53:22Speaker 1: especially around the.
- 53:23Speaker 2: Grandpa Oh Gram's is my favorite love him.
- 53:27Speaker 1: Uh. It makes it more accessible. I think it doesn't
- 53:32Speaker 1: feel so heavy and it feels more natural.
- 53:36Speaker 2: Well yeah, it's it's funny without becoming parody, and it's
- 53:39Speaker 2: scary without taking itself too seriously.
- 53:41Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 53:42Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a very good balance. Something that I
- 53:45Speaker 2: really noticed on this watch was those intense moments, and
- 53:48Speaker 2: I really like, you get a very intense moment of
- 53:52Speaker 2: Jerry in the beginning when I forgot he showed his
- 53:56Speaker 2: vampire form so early to Charlie, so you have that
- 54:00Speaker 2: setup of ooh, that's what he looks like. That's creepy.
- 54:02Speaker 2: And then of course in the third act it pays
- 54:04Speaker 2: off even more because not only does he go full vampire,
- 54:08Speaker 2: he goes where wolf, he goes fucking bat he goes everywhere.
- 54:12Speaker 2: And it's one of the it's one of the few
- 54:14Speaker 2: movies vampire movies that showcases a vampire in all of
- 54:19Speaker 2: its forms bat, wolf and smoke, because there's there's a
- 54:23Speaker 2: there's a moment where I feel like, you know, when
- 54:26Speaker 2: he's chasing him in the alley, evil Ed and all
- 54:28Speaker 2: of that smoke comes wishing towards him and then wishes backwards.
- 54:32Speaker 2: I feel like that's him. I feel like they were
- 54:34Speaker 2: trying to imply he was that smoke. I don't know that.
- 54:37Speaker 2: Maybe that's just me.
- 54:39Speaker 1: No, no, no, because Dracula turns into Fox.
- 54:42Speaker 2: So that's that's what I'm saying.
- 54:43Speaker 1: That's fair. Yeah, this still uh sits in the vampire
- 54:48Speaker 1: like what can vampires do? Genre because as time has
- 54:52Speaker 1: gone on, vampires less regularly turn into other things and
- 54:58Speaker 1: even even back so like it's few and far between
- 55:01Speaker 1: now because it can end up being cheesy. Then it
- 55:06Speaker 1: comes out of nowhere, like even Lost Boys. The next
- 55:08Speaker 1: year you hear the bat noises, you never see them
- 55:10Speaker 1: as bad, right, The most you get is that you
- 55:13Speaker 1: can see there, yeah, and their feet look like claws,
- 55:17Speaker 1: but you never see them as bats because that would
- 55:20Speaker 1: have taken away from the seriousness.
- 55:22Speaker 2: And that's why it works.
- 55:23Speaker 1: Oh that the vibe, the tone of that.
- 55:25Speaker 2: Film, Well, that's why it works so well. And what
- 55:27Speaker 2: we do in the Shadows or at least the show,
- 55:30Speaker 2: because it's hilarious bad and then turns into a bat. Well,
- 55:33Speaker 2: they also play bats a playback. They're also bats in
- 55:37Speaker 2: the movie and they start fighting I think at one
- 55:38Speaker 2: point or something.
- 55:39Speaker 1: Yes, yes they do, but in this case they're still
- 55:43Speaker 1: sticking close to home with that. But it doesn't feel cheesy,
- 55:47Speaker 1: it feels scary, it feels I don't quite know what
- 55:50Speaker 1: this vampire is gonna do, and they I think it
- 55:54Speaker 1: really sells because they do so many of these, like
- 55:57Speaker 1: really great puppets and prosthetics and stuff that make it
- 56:02Speaker 1: really creepy and visceral.
- 56:04Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's when I love the because all of
- 56:08Speaker 2: a lot of that starts taking place towards the third act,
- 56:11Speaker 2: and in the third act they stop with the comedy
- 56:13Speaker 2: basically once Evil Ed gets turned into a vampire. Yeah,
- 56:17Speaker 2: he has his moment with Peter Vincent, but he was
- 56:20Speaker 2: kind of the com he was the main comic relief,
- 56:22Speaker 2: I would say, And then he turns and then everything
- 56:26Speaker 2: just starts becoming horrifying after that, and it just takes
- 56:29Speaker 2: this really you're like, you're not watching a horror comedy,
- 56:31Speaker 2: like you're watching a full on vampire showdown that is
- 56:35Speaker 2: serious in tone throughout most of the third act, and
- 56:39Speaker 2: then that's when you just get just it is one
- 56:41Speaker 2: of the wildest third acts, I think, not just in
- 56:45Speaker 2: vampire movies, it is just one of the most They
- 56:47Speaker 2: threw everything at the wall and everything fucking stuck. They're like,
- 56:51Speaker 2: we're using all of this.
- 56:52Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and they're all just running around the house.
- 56:54Speaker 1: Sometimes they're just like, oh, we're all in the same
- 56:56Speaker 1: room while I'm running off to this other room. Yeah,
- 56:58Speaker 1: and he's just like, where's everybody going?
- 57:01Speaker 2: Yeah, And I guess technically Jerry didn't turn into a
- 57:03Speaker 2: wolf that was ed. Yes it was, but you still
- 57:06Speaker 2: get you know, you still get to see a vampire
- 57:09Speaker 2: turn into a wolf. What was your reaction did that
- 57:12Speaker 2: to the fake out of the wolf being ed and
- 57:15Speaker 2: not Jerry? Did you kind of expect that or was
- 57:17Speaker 2: that like, oh shit.
- 57:18Speaker 1: Oh no, I knew that was ah damn. Okay, I
- 57:21Speaker 1: mean it was obvious that's who he.
- 57:22Speaker 2: Was, and I know, and I know it wasn't a
- 57:23Speaker 2: blow to you because you didn't like him as a character.
- 57:26Speaker 2: But I love seeing the half man half wolf being
- 57:32Speaker 2: stuck mid transformation because I don't think they transform like
- 57:35Speaker 2: were wolves, but I'm sure there's a quick transition period. Yeah,
- 57:39Speaker 2: and watching him slowly become human again was really cool.
- 57:42Speaker 1: That's probably also why they don't really do the wolves anymore,
- 57:44Speaker 1: to better differentiate between were wolves and vampire.
- 57:48Speaker 2: Right exactly, so, but that is part of you know,
- 57:50Speaker 2: traditional vampire lore. Yeah, hang, that's all I've got. I'm
- 57:56Speaker 2: pretty sure. Was there anything else you wanted to touch on? No, Yeah,
- 58:01Speaker 2: I just I really enjoy this movie. I think it's
- 58:03Speaker 2: a It is becoming a classic with me. Every time
- 58:06Speaker 2: I watch it, I like it just just a little
- 58:08Speaker 2: bit more, you know, just like maybe like maybe like
- 58:10Speaker 2: half star more. It is a great time. I think
- 58:13Speaker 2: that's all I've got. That's all you've got? Oh I
- 58:16Speaker 2: did I forgot to ask you this hottest vampire? What
- 58:19Speaker 2: do you got?
- 58:21Speaker 1: Oh?
- 58:21Speaker 2: God?
- 58:22Speaker 1: Oh God, that's such a big question.
- 58:24Speaker 2: Hottest vampire. I didn't ask you in the beginning of
- 58:26Speaker 2: all vampires.
- 58:27Speaker 1: Oh Jesus. Okay, off the top of my head. Uh.
- 58:33Speaker 1: Eric Northman from True Blood, Okay, that's Alexander scars Guard.
- 58:39Speaker 2: Alexander Scar's guard, Pennywise. No, that's Bill God. There's so
- 58:43Speaker 2: many fucking.
- 58:44Speaker 1: Scar Alexander Scars Guard.
- 58:46Speaker 2: There's so many scars guards.
- 58:49Speaker 1: I spit on me and I would say, thank you.
- 58:51Speaker 2: Ew, that's weird. I I didn't. Are you into that?
- 58:57Speaker 1: No, I'm not. That's why it means something.
- 59:01Speaker 2: Ew. That's I'm learning a lot of things today are
- 59:06Speaker 2: really just a one thing.
- 59:07Speaker 1: Alexander Scarsguard, for God's sake.
- 59:10Speaker 2: Okay, well I'm gonna go with Vladislav from what we
- 59:14Speaker 2: do in the Shadows. That's fair mus Jermaine Clement, Yeah,
- 59:19Speaker 2: all right, so that is fright night from nineteen eighty five.
- 59:22Speaker 2: Let's roll into the final cut taglines there are some
- 59:27Speaker 2: very good reasons to be afraid dot dot dot of
- 59:29Speaker 2: the dark coming to your neighborhood. And if you love
- 59:33Speaker 2: being scared, it'll be the night of your life trivia.
- 59:36Speaker 2: Because of his theatrical roots, in the long hour spent
- 59:38Speaker 2: in the makeup chair, Chris Sarandon helped apply his own
- 59:41Speaker 2: vampire makeup and often worked on the finger extensions while
- 59:44Speaker 2: the makeup artists were putting appliances on his face. That
- 59:47Speaker 2: sounds weird if Chris Sarandon's. It was Chris Sarandon's idea
- 59:51Speaker 2: to have Jerry eating apples throughout the film. While researching
- 59:54Speaker 2: vampire lore, Sarandon looked at information about bats and concluded
- 59:58Speaker 2: Jerry had a lot of fruit bat in his DNA,
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: which is perfect because yeah, he's only eating fruits. He's
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: only I mean, I don't think it's just apples. I
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: thought I saw an orangin there. The film's genesis came
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: with Tom Holland wanting to do a vampire story crossbread
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: with the boy who Cried Wolf. Avoiding using special effects
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: at the expense of good acting, Holland included plenty of humor, warmth,
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: and relationships. He also wanted to make it valid to
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: a modern audience by routing it in reality, hence the
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: suburban setting. At the time this is being filmed, the
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: studio was sinking all of its efforts into making a
- 1:00:28Speaker 2: hit out of Perfect nineteen eighty five, and they also
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: gave high priority to the slugger's wife. Nobody paid attention
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: to Fright Night, commented writer director Tom Holland. It was wonderful.
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: Yeah, let him cook look Perfect is a weird movie, Okay.
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: Yeah. The fact that Amy resembles a lost love of
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: Dandridge's was Chris Srandon's idea. He wanted Dandridge to have
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: an added dimension and not just be some evil bad guy.
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: And I was fucking right about the Hollywood back lots
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: because this was filmed the same back lot of Tom
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: hanks movie The Burbs.
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't not believe you.
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: No, I just questioned myself because I thought this is
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: a Columbia pictures, they wouldn't be using universal back lots.
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't think. And then much of the
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: film's nine point five million dollar budget was spent on effects.
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: It was the first vampire film to spend one million
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: on special effects. Wow goofs. During the film's climax in
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: the basement, Charlie and Peter break several windows all around
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: the room, causing intense beams of sunlight to pour in
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: from every direction. Obviously this would not have happened as
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: the only direct intense beams would come from the east.
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: Given that this is happening around dawn, I don't think
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: this person knows how light works.
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: Well, if your if your windows over there and over here,
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: you're not getting a beam in this way. You're not
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: getting a beam coming.
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: But light is still gonna you're gonna come in.
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: It might be light, but it's not gonna be a
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: beam of light. That has to be a direct light source.
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: So they're saying there's multiple direct light sources. Yeah, I guess, yeah,
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: So I go what they're saying.
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: Charlie is supposedly a fan of Vampire movie, but he
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: learns from Evil at about things like steaks, garlet crosses,
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: et cetera. Things which should be familiar even to casual
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: horror fans. And this is something I didn't even realize.
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: But when Evil Ed comes to Peter's apartment, Peter physically
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: pulls Ed in. He does not formally invite him in,
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: which is required for a vampire to enter anyone's home.
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: Yeah. I clocked that immediately, but I took it to
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: mean that as long as you're invited in, this is
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: a He is physically grabbing him and pulling him into
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: his home, so it's not a verbal invitation, but he
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: is putting him in his house. I want you in
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: my home. Yeah okay, So to me, I felt like
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: that counted because he reaches out of his house and
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: pulls him inside.
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: Got you okay?
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: Because it never says it has to be a verbal invitation?
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: All right? So rated seven point oh out of ten
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: on IMDb for our purposes of the nightmare index. That
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: is a three point five out of five, three point
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: six out of five on Letterbox, eighty three percent on
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: the Tomato Meter, and a seven tventy seven percent audience score.
- 1:03:01Speaker 2: What did you give this movie? Gave it a four ooh.
- 1:03:05Speaker 2: I also gave it a four, which means that is
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: a frightmare certified slap. Haven't had one of those in
- 1:03:12Speaker 2: a while. So with that being said, we are at
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: a nightmare index of three point seven eight, which is
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: quite high. That means it is sitting comfortably in between.
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: We are still here at a three point six y
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: nine and Reanimator at a three point eighty four. Also
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: from last week ended up in between Frankenstein's Army at
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: a two point seven to eight, Megan at a three
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: point three four with having a three point one three,
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: So this one's up there. This one is now number
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: six on the nightmare Index. Similar movies according to IMDb,
- 1:03:47Speaker 2: we have Fright Night Part two, Fright Night twenty eleven,
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: The Lost Boys, an American werewolf in London, and Reanimator
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: took a real left turn there with that last movie.
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: Similar movies according to Letterbox Fright Night twenty eleven, The
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: Lost Boys, Fright Night two, New Blood, which I guess
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: is a sequel to the twenty eleven which I didn't
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: know existed, Salem's Lot and Queen of the Damned. Nice.
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: What do you got for reviews?
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: Ye? So I was like, where are my reviews?
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: I'm in the wrong spot on my phone that it
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: might help.
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: That's cool, okay. Four and a half stars from Horror
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: Syndrome Jerry Dandridge stole Charlie's girlfriend and his boyfriend.
- 1:04:28Speaker 2: Oh that's sad. Let's see. Yeah that is not there
- 1:04:34Speaker 2: we go? No, there we go? Four stars from blair
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: if Villain bad, Why sexy?
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: I almost grabe that one too. Four and a half
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: stars from Sam Hayne Vampire Weaknesses, Garlic crosses, Holy Water,
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: wooden steaks, high school boys with ADHD.
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: Four stars from Tim Cop Rolling up to the club
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: and a designer sweatshirt is some re vampire shit. Yep. Yeah.
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: Four and a half stars from Roady Spider Emoji, two
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: bros chilling and a spooky house killing people because they're
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: not gay? Do you know a heart? I looked for
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: one about that. I guess there was, like so they're
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: not together?
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: Not uh no rating just the heart from single white
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: female and she's definitely been on the show before. This
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: vampire is a pedophile, last but not least from a
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: circus rat. What four stars and a heart? Imagine being
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: a vampire living for all eternity with the name Jerry.
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: Let's think about that. I don't think Jerry was a
- 1:05:44Speaker 2: very common name whenever he was turned into a fan.
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: Of this Sneaking Suspicion. That's either short for something or
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: he changed it for modern just.
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: Short for Jerryatric. Yeah, oh my god. If you enjoy
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