Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Fat Joe Discusses 'Lean Back' Legacy, Jumping Into Politics, Hair Dying Brand + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning.
- 0:04Speaker 2: Everybody' is theve j en Vy, Jesse Larry's Charlamage, the guy.
- 0:08Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in.
- 0:11Speaker 3: The building, the Icon Living Joey Crack Fat Joe.
- 0:14Speaker 4: Why fight the time when you can rewind the time?
- 0:19Speaker 4: Why fight the time when you can rewind the time?
- 0:22Speaker 1: Joe walk into Joseph Envy. I gotta check for you.
- 0:24Speaker 4: Okay, right here, it's all to find the guy. This
- 0:32Speaker 4: is the best it. We made this amonia free. This
- 0:35Speaker 4: won't break you out. You know how you got some
- 0:36Speaker 4: people with the grays they like they like the gray.
- 0:39Speaker 4: It's because the other brands will break them out. Some
- 0:42Speaker 4: guys go to the hospital. This don't break you out.
- 0:44Speaker 4: We made this ammonia free for the black and brown.
- 0:46Speaker 1: You know, do just for men? No, no, it's over
- 0:49Speaker 1: for them. You turn me into a drill hair, you
- 0:56Speaker 1: know the drill Kelsey ain't even that. Oh he got
- 1:04Speaker 1: going gray already. You want to get them sharp lines.
- 1:07Speaker 4: Okay, you go to Dominican barber shop up in Washington Heights.
- 1:10Speaker 1: You might have a spot that just don't get connect.
- 1:13Speaker 1: They make your ship look like Jalen Rose super like
- 1:19Speaker 1: you could you could cut your finger off.
- 1:21Speaker 4: Absolutely, I'm trying to get him on the box, he said, Yo, Joe,
- 1:24Speaker 4: I'm not ready for that yet. This that you know,
- 1:26Speaker 4: it's it's it's been a stigma, you know what I'm saying.
- 1:29Speaker 4: And you know I used to go in there and
- 1:31Speaker 4: sneak in at three in the morning CBS Walgreens. If
- 1:34Speaker 4: he's almost like buying a co tax a Tampa on
- 1:37Speaker 4: your wife sends you to get one, and you scared
- 1:39Speaker 4: the depth to go to. But now we got Travis Kelce,
- 1:43Speaker 4: we got text said back for the biggest seller.
- 1:46Speaker 1: I will say this is the realist.
- 1:48Speaker 3: It's looked like you're being It actually looks.
- 1:50Speaker 1: Not like that job timeron got me right.
- 2:01Speaker 4: There's that one time with you, Joe, that one time
- 2:04Speaker 4: which one it was one time it got a difference.
- 2:09Speaker 1: It wasn't.
- 2:11Speaker 4: Everyone for conspiracy for it. Like I just think my
- 2:14Speaker 4: ship be so shocked that they think it's fake, you
- 2:18Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But it just be like maybe
- 2:20Speaker 4: I'm loosen it. You're not thinking you want.
- 2:24Speaker 1: To lose weight.
- 2:25Speaker 4: I think it always looked good, but one time I
- 2:27Speaker 4: came up here and it looked like the chalk.
- 2:31Speaker 1: He didn't come up here. I got it looking right,
- 2:35Speaker 1: got me looking right.
- 2:36Speaker 4: I noticed that the ladies take care of themselves there.
- 2:42Speaker 4: Every day is something that you would.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Go to CV. She said.
- 2:44Speaker 4: Lashes is this is the every day they got a
- 2:48Speaker 4: new because ding in my house. You know, my daughter
- 2:50Speaker 4: and my wife, they at the lashes, they at the nails.
- 2:53Speaker 4: They after this. After death, there's a new treatment. It's
- 2:56Speaker 4: court Morpheus there. You know, bro, let me take care myself.
- 3:00Speaker 1: You would go get it yourself. Yes, all the time.
- 3:04Speaker 1: The biggest thing I like about it, but it was.
- 3:06Speaker 3: It was embarrassing, you know, I would throw it in.
- 3:08Speaker 3: I walk into drugstore and I see all that. I'm
- 3:10Speaker 3: like Joe getting some money. It's a long term equity player.
- 3:14Speaker 1: Yeah oh yeah, yeah yeah. And that goal that's gonna go. No,
- 3:16Speaker 1: that's the bag man. I ain't gonna lie.
- 3:19Speaker 4: Shout out to Sally's Beauty Amazon Dot like I mean,
- 3:22Speaker 4: people like yo, you Patrick.
- 3:24Speaker 1: I don't know this ship frying somebody's body, somebody's coughing.
- 3:31Speaker 5: You're also making more men feel more comfortable being able
- 3:35Speaker 5: to do something like this without getting jokes and stuff
- 3:37Speaker 5: like Charlamagne just told me that he don't grow his
- 3:39Speaker 5: out because it's gray and all of that, all the sud.
- 3:43Speaker 4: You could get it there, boy, you won't break out nothing.
- 3:46Speaker 4: You get that line. You look like Denzel Man. I
- 3:51Speaker 4: look fifty three when you could be four, when you
- 3:54Speaker 4: could be thirty.
- 3:55Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this thing really, y'all rewinds the time? Man,
- 3:59Speaker 1: like it. What's going on?
- 4:00Speaker 3: You canna rewind in the time. Twenty years of lean back? Oh, wow,
- 4:04Speaker 3: my god, billion.
- 4:06Speaker 4: Dollars on one stage at the Apollo in one night.
- 4:09Speaker 1: Wow, A billion dollars will be present. Wow. We can't
- 4:13Speaker 1: keep them away.
- 4:14Speaker 4: You just keep calling talking about there's no way we're
- 4:16Speaker 4: gonna celebrate a lean back Fat Joe and remy Man
- 4:21Speaker 4: without coming. So the list of people right now we
- 4:24Speaker 4: only said dip said locks and us is really getting
- 4:29Speaker 4: disgusting out there, the lineup, and we just gonna have
- 4:32Speaker 4: the best time. I don't know if it's legal to
- 4:34Speaker 4: smoke weeds out there, but smoke your shit, have your
- 4:38Speaker 4: drink coming, positivity, have a great time because this is
- 4:41Speaker 4: gonna be one. I'm making the top five New York
- 4:47Speaker 4: City moment. So like when when Muhammad al Lei fought
- 4:51Speaker 4: for the championship in Madison. Crit I'm doing that type
- 4:53Speaker 4: of shit that when they make a movie about this
- 4:56Speaker 4: time thirty years from now, they're gonna say the Night
- 4:58Speaker 4: in Harlem. In fact, Joe's leaned back and the whole
- 5:02Speaker 4: planet Earth came.
- 5:03Speaker 1: It was too much in there.
- 5:06Speaker 4: So I'm telling you, if you got a ticket, congrats,
- 5:08Speaker 4: If you got a ticket, sell it for more now.
- 5:10Speaker 1: Like it's like it's too much out of control.
- 5:13Speaker 4: What's gonna happen in the apollom And you know, I
- 5:16Speaker 4: started Amateur Night a one, four weeks in a row
- 5:18Speaker 4: in Amateur Night, so when I come back, it's always
- 5:21Speaker 4: just home for me, you know. So we did it
- 5:24Speaker 4: three sixty were doing apollow eightproo second. It's crazy. It's
- 5:28Speaker 4: like I'm telling you, it's gonna be crazy.
- 5:31Speaker 1: What did lean back do for Fat Joe's career in
- 5:33Speaker 1: his life? Well, God did a lot for me, you
- 5:39Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And so, uh, you know, I
- 5:43Speaker 1: went rich.
- 5:45Speaker 4: I thought I could save the whole neighborhood, thirty guys
- 5:48Speaker 4: and Cadillac trucks and paying everybody's bills and buying lobsters
- 5:53Speaker 4: every night for thirty guys.
- 5:54Speaker 1: That I went broke. I remember after What's Love, I
- 5:57Speaker 1: was on my knees, on my knees because that's what
- 6:00Speaker 1: you gotta do it. You gotta like really feel the
- 6:03Speaker 1: pain when really.
- 6:04Speaker 4: Playing for a miracle was like God, one more chance, please,
- 6:07Speaker 4: one more chance, one more chance.
- 6:09Speaker 1: He gave me that one more chance. That thing went
- 6:12Speaker 1: number one in the world.
- 6:13Speaker 4: We was just I remember the joint came out and like,
- 6:20Speaker 4: I don't know if we could talk too much, but
- 6:22Speaker 4: it was like three days after the song came out
- 6:24Speaker 4: and Little John asked me to come out of the
- 6:26Speaker 4: show with him and perform, and sixty two thousand people
- 6:31Speaker 4: were doing this three days after.
- 6:33Speaker 1: It was all like this now.
- 6:34Speaker 4: I remember I looked to the back and Kanye West
- 6:36Speaker 4: was hiding behind the wall.
- 6:38Speaker 1: He was like, oh, we got one, you know. And
- 6:41Speaker 1: so for me, I don't get high.
- 6:44Speaker 4: I don't really do nothing, nothing wrong, smoke your weed,
- 6:46Speaker 4: do whatever you want to do. But for me, my adrenaline,
- 6:50Speaker 4: my get high is putting our hit records, hearing it
- 6:54Speaker 4: in every car you know, lean back.
- 6:56Speaker 1: What it did do was they was playing this in.
- 7:00Speaker 4: The club like I walked into I mean literally thirty
- 7:03Speaker 4: forty times in the world, like.
- 7:04Speaker 1: You'll be dizzy in there, you like in there like, damn,
- 7:09Speaker 1: is this shit gonna stop?
- 7:11Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, And they just it's an
- 7:14Speaker 4: incredible moment for hip hop music and of course for
- 7:17Speaker 4: me and rap.
- 7:17Speaker 2: But you never had but one thing I'll say about Joe.
- 7:21Speaker 2: You never had a problem making a hit though, So
- 7:22Speaker 2: that was never a problem. Some artists they gotta find
- 7:25Speaker 2: a hit, they gotta they gotta create a hit. You've
- 7:28Speaker 2: never had that problem.
- 7:29Speaker 4: Well that's the problem. That is the problem. What you
- 7:33Speaker 4: just said is just because a hit record is really
- 7:37Speaker 4: a miracle, a real hit record, not a fad or something,
- 7:41Speaker 4: but one that's gonna stay forever.
- 7:43Speaker 1: Back that ass up, just back. It's getting hot in here.
- 7:50Speaker 1: Coach shorty.
- 7:51Speaker 4: Yeah, like those joints, right, they forever, you understand.
- 7:57Speaker 1: So you got a couple of yeah, I do, but
- 7:59Speaker 1: it's a they're cool to get that. You understand what
- 8:02Speaker 1: I'm saying.
- 8:02Speaker 4: So when you get it, you realize, oh my god,
- 8:05Speaker 4: thank you God. When everybody turned around and be like, so,
- 8:09Speaker 4: I'll tell you what happened. Now, I got robbed for
- 8:12Speaker 4: my publishing. When I first came, you said, for your
- 8:17Speaker 4: published Gus, Yeah, every artist did well. I had signed
- 8:19Speaker 4: to this dude, Jelly being. He hit me with the
- 8:21Speaker 4: wee Latino and stole my publishing being pun and it
- 8:27Speaker 4: took me like fifteen years to get my ship back right. So,
- 8:31Speaker 4: once I got my thing back, I heard all these
- 8:33Speaker 4: artists ludicrous, this one, that one getting two three million
- 8:36Speaker 4: dollar deals, this this. So I went around and they
- 8:40Speaker 4: were like, you know, they were offering me like two
- 8:42Speaker 4: hundred and fifty thousand and three. I was like, yo,
- 8:45Speaker 4: what happened to the million dollar deals? And I remember
- 8:47Speaker 4: my lawyer at the time.
- 8:48Speaker 1: He walked me to the truck. He was like, yo, Joe,
- 8:50Speaker 1: you're not really hot right now, Jesus, I said, oh lord,
- 8:54Speaker 1: that's all I need. I'm a leo, I'm a lion.
- 8:58Speaker 4: So I went down to Miami, got in with skyt stores,
- 9:00Speaker 4: came back with that lean back.
- 9:01Speaker 1: Then I went right back to the same people.
- 9:04Speaker 2: They want you to move closer to the mic.
- 9:05Speaker 4: A month later, I went back to the same people
- 9:08Speaker 4: and they gave me the check. They gave me the
- 9:10Speaker 4: biggest check. They wouldn't even let me leave the room.
- 9:13Speaker 4: Many of it came on and I was like, my people,
- 9:15Speaker 4: don't that and I'm like, lean back. They was like,
- 9:17Speaker 4: oh no, don't leave. We gotta we gotta get this done.
- 9:21Speaker 4: And that's real negotiators. Like real negotiators want to get
- 9:24Speaker 4: it done or they won't let you leave.
- 9:26Speaker 2: How did the idea of lean back?
- 9:28Speaker 1: What people do that?
- 9:29Speaker 2: Because it's such a monumental record reson of.
- 9:31Speaker 4: Air, I came up to beat with Scott starts the
- 9:33Speaker 4: boom boom boom. I said, Scott, I want because Scott
- 9:36Speaker 4: to play anything, So I said, Scott, I want you
- 9:39Speaker 4: to play music.
- 9:41Speaker 1: Imagine when.
- 9:43Speaker 4: Nas Dmax and Belly were going in to rob the
- 9:46Speaker 4: tunnel with their eyes was like that.
- 9:49Speaker 1: I said, I want to play something.
- 9:50Speaker 4: That make you feel like they're walking in, like they're
- 9:53Speaker 4: about to rob the joint.
- 9:54Speaker 1: And we came up.
- 9:55Speaker 4: He was like well, I was like, like he played
- 9:58Speaker 4: it right, And so through the whole beat, the beat
- 10:03Speaker 4: was more like Moroccan inspired to me, he made it,
- 10:07Speaker 4: but I was giving him the ideas right, But the
- 10:11Speaker 4: actual hook was based on Missy Elliott right, because because
- 10:16Speaker 4: Missy was like, is that your bit? Don't damn? But
- 10:20Speaker 4: is that your bit?
- 10:21Speaker 1: No? No no?
- 10:22Speaker 4: And I realized that what I loved about Missy records
- 10:26Speaker 4: was repetition.
- 10:28Speaker 1: Her hooks would just repeat itself.
- 10:29Speaker 4: That's when I learned how to like, I make it rain,
- 10:32Speaker 4: I make it rain, I made it. You know, a
- 10:34Speaker 4: hit record repeats itself. So then that's where it inspired that.
- 10:38Speaker 4: And then the Jamaicans was killing everything, so that a
- 10:41Speaker 4: rockaway sniggle, little playing, and so I was like, yo,
- 10:45Speaker 4: we gotta do something like that. You're nakan, so we
- 10:48Speaker 4: don't dance. We just pull up our pants and so.
- 10:51Speaker 1: Lean back and lean back, lean back. So that was
- 10:55Speaker 1: the whole and then the rhymes actually.
- 10:57Speaker 4: We're going to keep it a hundred were originally on
- 11:00Speaker 4: a k Slay tape because they're so yeah they was
- 11:05Speaker 4: they was on a k Slay tape. And because you know,
- 11:07Speaker 4: he would keep coming to get me every and he
- 11:11Speaker 4: kept my pen whim so he would come every two
- 11:14Speaker 4: three weeks and be like, y'all kick a freestyle. And
- 11:16Speaker 4: then one day I just went crazy on the state
- 11:18Speaker 4: and I was like, all right, when I get the
- 11:20Speaker 4: right beat, I'm gonna throw these rhymes on it.
- 11:22Speaker 1: You know, So that that the rest was his that
- 11:24Speaker 1: was out. The gate was always on it. You know.
- 11:28Speaker 1: What she did, she did the same.
- 11:30Speaker 4: Thing to mop I didn't know how does Remy Mark
- 11:32Speaker 4: thug out mop at fat Joe?
- 11:34Speaker 1: Right? So I had three verses.
- 11:36Speaker 4: I wish I remember that verse because it had to
- 11:39Speaker 4: be crazy right, because it was. It was the lean
- 11:42Speaker 4: back you know when you in the zone, when you
- 11:45Speaker 4: in that type of zone where you like talking all that.
- 11:48Speaker 1: You know. Man, I wish I had that verse.
- 11:50Speaker 4: So I went go get McDonald's, me and callip Win,
- 11:53Speaker 4: go get McDonald's and we come back. Everybody nervous in
- 11:56Speaker 4: the studio and I'm like, Yo, what's up? And they like,
- 12:00Speaker 4: I'm like, what's up? And it was like yo, she
- 12:02Speaker 4: erased your second verse and kicked the verse. I was
- 12:04Speaker 4: like yo, raandma, are you.
- 12:06Speaker 1: Are you crazy? Like? What this my? That was my
- 12:09Speaker 1: solo on the Terror Squad album. And when she played
- 12:12Speaker 1: oh to the Easy and.
- 12:15Speaker 4: Stayed brazy, it was like that thing they say, that
- 12:21Speaker 4: thing you didn't know you need.
- 12:23Speaker 1: Oh, we never knew we needed it.
- 12:26Speaker 4: And so I'm proud you know that me and my
- 12:28Speaker 4: sister did that and put it out the park together.
- 12:31Speaker 4: I just feel like, you know, me and her, we
- 12:33Speaker 4: just got a super winning formula.
- 12:37Speaker 1: I don't want to say it like that.
- 12:38Speaker 4: But it's true though, Like when Dre and Snoop come
- 12:40Speaker 4: with a joint, you just like, no, it's dumb. When
- 12:43Speaker 4: Ram and Joe come, if they come with it, it's.
- 12:45Speaker 1: Out of here.
- 12:46Speaker 4: And so that's the same thing I did with her
- 12:48Speaker 4: way all the way up. You know, she came out
- 12:50Speaker 4: of jail. She was struggling. I was struggling, and I
- 12:53Speaker 4: sat down said, listen, man let me. I said we
- 12:56Speaker 4: could just like like if we could just put the red,
- 13:00Speaker 4: wouldn't needle Like if we do do what we gotta do.
- 13:03Speaker 4: It's sady here because these people only know us from
- 13:06Speaker 4: winning together. She's like, ill bro put it together. And
- 13:09Speaker 4: so when we did all.
- 13:10Speaker 1: The way up, it felt like lean back.
- 13:12Speaker 4: It felt like all day back, Like but you don't
- 13:15Speaker 4: know what I'm going through in life.
- 13:16Speaker 1: We struggling, we pop, we try to come back.
- 13:19Speaker 4: I'm performing in Yugoslavia or China, Philip in you know,
- 13:22Speaker 4: I'm trying to run up the bag.
- 13:24Speaker 1: And and so you know that, you know, all the
- 13:28Speaker 1: way up, it's.
- 13:29Speaker 4: Almost like leaning back too. It's like a continuation to it.
- 13:31Speaker 4: To be honest with you.
- 13:32Speaker 1: It's collaborating with me, feel like collaborating with pun.
- 13:35Speaker 4: It's the same thing. It's so weird. She's the only
- 13:38Speaker 4: person tourning Sunshine too. That makes me feel like Punt
- 13:43Speaker 4: is in the building when I'm in the studio with Ram.
- 13:45Speaker 4: I mean, you know we you know, Terror Squad, DNA
- 13:48Speaker 4: really different, Like it's really different. Were the most loyal
- 13:53Speaker 4: when you lock in and it's like we got each
- 13:56Speaker 4: other's back for life. So it's like when we get
- 13:58Speaker 4: in that studio, we tell the stupid jokes, but you
- 14:01Speaker 4: can hear puns.
- 14:02Speaker 1: Jokes in the jokes.
- 14:04Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, and we bothering each other.
- 14:06Speaker 4: We're doing whatever we're doing, but the man always in
- 14:08Speaker 4: the building. You know, as weird as it sounds to anybody,
- 14:12Speaker 4: you know, any moment I ever had in my life,
- 14:15Speaker 4: it was like big. I swear to God, I'm not
- 14:18Speaker 4: lying if I had a big moment and I'm going
- 14:20Speaker 4: to call him in thee. I turn on the radio,
- 14:21Speaker 4: still not a players playing, or I signed a deal
- 14:25Speaker 4: and I look, somebody got a picture of Pun in
- 14:27Speaker 4: the corner.
- 14:28Speaker 1: So he always reminds me like, yo, bro, I'm your angel.
- 14:31Speaker 4: You know you ain't doing this by yourself, joke, You
- 14:34Speaker 4: ain't doing it by yourself.
- 14:35Speaker 1: So yeah, we feel like that.
- 14:37Speaker 3: Is lean Back a one b R number two. What
- 14:41Speaker 3: do you mean in your catalog? Like what's your best
- 14:43Speaker 3: song ever? If I say, I'm not gonna say best,
- 14:45Speaker 3: I say biggest, biggest, I think would be What's Love?
- 14:48Speaker 1: The best song? Best, the best? The best is leaned back.
- 14:53Speaker 4: Leaning back is because you know why, it's like shook
- 14:57Speaker 4: ones right, it was made, like you said, for the gutter,
- 15:01Speaker 4: for the streets, for the this, for the that, and
- 15:03Speaker 4: then we had Britney Spears and them singing that joint
- 15:06Speaker 4: and Pink and them. I was performing at one time
- 15:10Speaker 4: when I did What's Love? I see no black of
- 15:12Speaker 4: Spanish people for like a year, and now I was.
- 15:14Speaker 1: Like, yo, what this record for black and Spanish people?
- 15:19Speaker 4: Because you be careful of you blowing up, you on
- 15:23Speaker 4: you with jelly roll, you you ain't even seeing black
- 15:26Speaker 4: and Spanish people. It's like, you know, cause they're giving
- 15:28Speaker 4: you the bag. You're doing every big colosseum everywhere. You
- 15:33Speaker 4: don't even know who's going on, Toby Keith next to you.
- 15:36Speaker 4: And what's crazy is when I did What's Love? Uh,
- 15:41Speaker 4: everything prior to that was just gangst the music. So
- 15:44Speaker 4: if you hire Fat Joe for twenty minutes, and I
- 15:46Speaker 4: don't care you the whitest guy in America.
- 15:49Speaker 1: He's cursing for fifteen minutes. He's going bad like. I
- 15:53Speaker 1: didn't know nothing else.
- 15:54Speaker 4: I'm just all I did do was perform gainst the
- 15:56Speaker 4: music and What's Love Like. They'd be like, oh my god,
- 15:59Speaker 4: this is the What's Love guy like? You know, I mean,
- 16:02Speaker 4: that's just the reality of it.
- 16:05Speaker 1: Now.
- 16:05Speaker 2: I say, you jumped into politics a little bit, a.
- 16:07Speaker 1: Little bit man in New York one day. No, no,
- 16:11Speaker 1: no shuff happening after you.
- 16:12Speaker 2: You're getting into that game a little bit.
- 16:14Speaker 1: I don't know if it's not a game, not a game,
- 16:17Speaker 1: not a get.
- 16:17Speaker 4: Price is price transparency? So me and power to the patiers.
- 16:22Speaker 1: When going to.
- 16:23Speaker 4: Uh Washington, I went one time. So what's going on
- 16:26Speaker 4: is one hundred million Americans in debt because of hospital bills.
- 16:32Speaker 4: The hospital this right here you could go is nine
- 16:34Speaker 4: ninety nine, twelve ninety nine. You know the price. You
- 16:37Speaker 4: know what the water is five ninety nine, six ninety nine.
- 16:40Speaker 1: You go to the hospital, you don't know what they
- 16:43Speaker 1: charging you.
- 16:44Speaker 4: A kid goes into and the thing for EpiPen they
- 16:48Speaker 4: charged him sixteen thousand, five hundred. He goes online and
- 16:51Speaker 4: Google's ad an EpiPen is only two hundred dollars, right,
- 16:55Speaker 4: And so you could go to the same This ain't
- 16:56Speaker 4: black of Spanish either. You going to hospital right now,
- 17:00Speaker 4: in hospitals all over America, every single hospital. Okay, they're
- 17:05Speaker 4: charging you two thousand dollars from m I ride, they're
- 17:08Speaker 4: charging him twenty six thousand. They charging out sixty four
- 17:12Speaker 4: same hospital, same doctors, same tests. I don't think that's right.
- 17:16Speaker 4: I don't think that's fair. And so the American people
- 17:19Speaker 4: are dying because of this, because what happens when you
- 17:22Speaker 4: ain't got no family, no money, the family feuds, We
- 17:26Speaker 4: break up the household. And this is the only thing
- 17:28Speaker 4: is bipartisan. So it's a Republican Democrats, black as white,
- 17:33Speaker 4: as Muslim, as Jewish, everything across the board.
- 17:35Speaker 1: Right, So this issue is dear to me.
- 17:38Speaker 4: I went there three years ago, and I remember a
- 17:40Speaker 4: journalist girl said, yo, fat Joe, what are you doing here?
- 17:43Speaker 4: I said, well, I came for pressure. She was like,
- 17:45Speaker 4: good lord, this is Washington. Nothing gets done here. I'm like, yo,
- 17:49Speaker 4: I'm like, you.
- 17:51Speaker 1: Know, we hip hop. We created all this for nothing.
- 17:55Speaker 4: Trillion dollar business and you live in a castle off
- 17:58Speaker 4: of hip hop.
- 18:00Speaker 1: Get that.
- 18:01Speaker 4: So who's gonna tell you you can't get a law
- 18:03Speaker 4: passed or whatever the case? Min I go back the
- 18:06Speaker 4: next year thirty five, the first year only one politician
- 18:09Speaker 4: met with me is a Republican from Kentucky's name was Guthrie. Said,
- 18:14Speaker 4: I know what you're talking about. You know, I got
- 18:15Speaker 4: family that are right cool? Thirty five I went last
- 18:19Speaker 4: year it was eighty five politicians. They passed the law
- 18:23Speaker 4: in Congress. That's cool, but it says estimates, estimates are bullshit.
- 18:27Speaker 4: Estimates ain't the real price. We want the price. So
- 18:30Speaker 4: there's a new law coming from Bernie Sanders and Senator
- 18:35Speaker 4: Bronn that says the price like you got to be
- 18:38Speaker 4: held accountable for the pricing. And so that's my true passion. Now,
- 18:42Speaker 4: commalass she different. You know, she got a sweet.
- 18:45Speaker 1: Spot for fat Joe.
- 18:46Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It's the vital Yeah, man,
- 18:50Speaker 4: she got a sweet Let me explain something to you.
- 18:54Speaker 4: We keep it real right. If you go on the streets,
- 18:56Speaker 4: they said, yo, she was the police. Any gangster if
- 19:00Speaker 4: you look at King of New York or any of
- 19:02Speaker 4: them walking with their lawyer. Do you know your criminal
- 19:06Speaker 4: defense attorney was a prosecutor. Every single one of them,
- 19:12Speaker 4: maybe one percent weren't prosecutors. It's what you gotta go through.
- 19:17Speaker 4: You had to go through walling out and all that
- 19:19Speaker 4: to get here. Every single lawyer that's a good lawyer
- 19:23Speaker 4: learned the experience from being a prosecutor.
- 19:25Speaker 1: So you're gonna hold her accountable because she was a prosecutor.
- 19:28Speaker 1: You know.
- 19:28Speaker 4: So you gotta know every guy with you just a free
- 19:31Speaker 4: free Johnny boy, free the guy you hugging. He put
- 19:34Speaker 4: a bunch of people in jail. So we can't just
- 19:37Speaker 4: hold her accountable for that. And and so you was
- 19:42Speaker 4: with her for the marijuana reform of it. Yeah, but
- 19:44Speaker 4: I was just with her because she she I really
- 19:46Speaker 4: was there for price transparency.
- 19:48Speaker 1: I'm gonna just keep it. No, no, no, no, I was there.
- 19:50Speaker 1: She asked me to come moderate the room. It was
- 19:53Speaker 1: about pardons.
- 19:54Speaker 3: Yeah, because it was eleven people there who got pardoned
- 19:57Speaker 3: got lost because of you, tho.
- 19:58Speaker 4: Joe think So I'm telling them now at the number
- 20:01Speaker 4: one show in America that people were in there. I
- 20:04Speaker 4: went there because they were talking about second chances. I,
- 20:07Speaker 4: my friends, is a walking second chance story, third chance,
- 20:13Speaker 4: fourth chance sort.
- 20:16Speaker 1: Okay, that Joe.
- 20:17Speaker 4: Wasn't this bubbly nice guy, giving to the community.
- 20:21Speaker 1: Loving everybody, come here. I love you, brother.
- 20:24Speaker 4: I wasn't that right, So I know that you could change, right,
- 20:28Speaker 4: And so when I sit down next to the Vice President,
- 20:31Speaker 4: and when I get there, I don't know about you
- 20:33Speaker 4: got let me tell you something.
- 20:34Speaker 1: People just you know we flow so much and all
- 20:37Speaker 1: that we.
- 20:37Speaker 4: Tell a big story. But the truth is, I don't
- 20:39Speaker 4: think they know how poor I was growing up, the welfare,
- 20:43Speaker 4: the free cheese, the projects to this. So when I
- 20:46Speaker 4: walk in that White House with her. As I walk
- 20:49Speaker 4: in the door, I start hearing we shall.
- 20:52Speaker 1: Over come, We shall.
- 20:57Speaker 4: We used to sing this thing every day and schools
- 21:01Speaker 4: in the hood. Now I'm at the President's in the
- 21:03Speaker 4: White House. Of course I'm gonna pull up and make
- 21:08Speaker 4: sure it's positive.
- 21:09Speaker 1: Because it was really all about partners. You had one
- 21:11Speaker 1: guy who couldn't coach his kids team because he had
- 21:14Speaker 1: a criminal pass. He got a party. Now he could
- 21:17Speaker 1: coach his team. You got people who had criminal records.
- 21:20Speaker 4: So the way they get the kids out the game
- 21:23Speaker 4: is they'll catch you for drinking beer, smoking the blunt
- 21:27Speaker 4: in your lobby and you can never get a real
- 21:28Speaker 4: good city job if that's what you want to do.
- 21:32Speaker 4: Even though I believe in entrepreneurship, I'm into owning your
- 21:35Speaker 4: own shit. I see more power in the lady selling
- 21:38Speaker 4: oranges on the highway than somebody who think they got
- 21:41Speaker 4: a job. You know why they're gonna get fired. And
- 21:44Speaker 4: then I don't even like how people talk to me
- 21:46Speaker 4: when you know I got I got some jobs. Just
- 21:53Speaker 4: consider jobs that I don't own it, and they talk
- 21:55Speaker 4: to me funny.
- 21:56Speaker 1: They all rich. You know we paid them.
- 21:59Speaker 4: You know when they start talking like that, you'd be like, damn,
- 22:02Speaker 4: I'm Joe cried. I don't have to do it because yeah,
- 22:04Speaker 4: but it's like it's that thing right when you feel
- 22:08Speaker 4: like y'all like, damn, I got somebody telling me like.
- 22:13Speaker 1: Pay you, Joe. So I don't believe in job security.
- 22:17Speaker 4: I believe in being an entrepreneur to create financial freedom.
- 22:21Speaker 1: That's that's that's my thing.
- 22:24Speaker 5: He was on IG Live and he was saying, like, oh,
- 22:26Speaker 5: what all the stuff going on in Haiti? You feel
- 22:29Speaker 5: like nobody's helping them over there because they're the first
- 22:31Speaker 5: free black nation.
- 22:33Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, what do you think I mean, I
- 22:35Speaker 1: mean like they're the first freed black people.
- 22:42Speaker 4: They rebelled and they took over the country, and I
- 22:44Speaker 4: feel like they cursed them and they said, you know what,
- 22:47Speaker 4: we ain't never helping them.
- 22:49Speaker 1: Guys.
- 22:49Speaker 4: They're the logo. They're the Jerry West of the NBA.
- 22:52Speaker 4: They're the logo of free black people. And so you
- 22:56Speaker 4: think it's it's a miracle that they won our ain't
- 23:00Speaker 4: flight away from here and they living under these conditions
- 23:03Speaker 4: or something like that. Now that's conspiracy Joe. May not
- 23:06Speaker 4: be true, you know, every now and then I guess
- 23:08Speaker 4: conspiracy Joe. But what I'm saying is once again right.
- 23:13Speaker 1: This is where I differ with doctor.
- 23:17Speaker 4: Umar And listen, I agree with him on ninety five
- 23:21Speaker 4: percent of the stuff he said.
- 23:23Speaker 1: I really mess with this guy.
- 23:25Speaker 4: But when he says hip hop don't do nothing, a
- 23:27Speaker 4: fat Joe not Haitian. But I get up on my
- 23:29Speaker 4: ig line said, listen, guys, we gotta do something.
- 23:34Speaker 1: Nobody else wants to do nothing. Let's go.
- 23:38Speaker 4: And you know what hip hop says immediately when I
- 23:40Speaker 4: said that, they know they gotta go in their pocket.
- 23:42Speaker 4: But Fat Joe says, hey, we collecting this Haiti time.
- 23:48Speaker 4: The problem is with Haiti is that it's very corrupt
- 23:53Speaker 4: system and unfortunately for years people they get in power
- 23:57Speaker 4: so they can steal. And so right now after I,
- 24:00Speaker 4: you know, be careful what you say. You might step
- 24:02Speaker 4: and shit. So now I gotta go fat Joke gott
- 24:05Speaker 4: to do his thing for Haiti. But we're trying to
- 24:08Speaker 4: vet and find out who's the legit people that's going
- 24:12Speaker 4: to give the people food and stuff. And got to
- 24:14Speaker 4: understand it's at war. You can't just walk in there.
- 24:17Speaker 1: You know.
- 24:18Speaker 4: When I sent the food to a million pounds sup
- 24:20Speaker 4: Porto Rico, we went there and we saw them give
- 24:23Speaker 4: it out like all right, job done.
- 24:25Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 24:26Speaker 4: I don't know if I want to see barbecue out
- 24:28Speaker 4: there when I go over there to bring the food
- 24:30Speaker 4: over there. I don't want to see them guys out
- 24:32Speaker 4: there they clapping, you know what I'm saying. But for
- 24:37Speaker 4: your you know, rich flayers Haitian. You know some of
- 24:39Speaker 4: my best friends, My best friend is Haitian. It's family's Haitian.
- 24:43Speaker 4: I'm around Haitians all day. So I can't be looking
- 24:46Speaker 4: at this devastation and all I'm talking about is no politics.
- 24:50Speaker 4: I'm talking about poverty. Helping people human like they starving, you.
- 24:56Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
- 24:57Speaker 4: So you know, just like you heard that, the hip
- 24:59Speaker 4: hop community heard to the higher ups heard it. Everybody heard,
- 25:02Speaker 4: and they're like, all this fact. He come in with
- 25:05Speaker 4: the envelope. You know what, I like the dude charity.
- 25:09Speaker 4: They're safe. Then you know it's going straight to you.
- 25:13Speaker 4: You know when we gave two million dollars to the Muslims,
- 25:17Speaker 4: seventeen of them died in the Bronx last year. You know,
- 25:20Speaker 4: we gave it to the Mayor's from we vettit that
- 25:22Speaker 4: to make sure no one makes money off this charity.
- 25:26Speaker 4: All the money go back to the community.
- 25:29Speaker 1: So that's where.
- 25:29Speaker 4: We're at right now. And it's hard day at war.
- 25:32Speaker 4: They did you know my man rich players moms gives
- 25:35Speaker 4: UH to this one church and she says, I be there.
- 25:40Speaker 4: They really do it. But you know we're trying to
- 25:42Speaker 4: get in touch with them. We're trying to get in
- 25:44Speaker 4: touch with the right people before I start mine.
- 25:47Speaker 1: And also, I said, Zoey Dollars, who's a.
- 25:51Speaker 4: Haitian, got to be upfront with me too, because you
- 25:55Speaker 4: know it's you know, it's you know, you know, the
- 25:58Speaker 4: world asks a lot about us. Truthfully, we're older, but
- 26:02Speaker 4: we're still that young person we always was since we
- 26:04Speaker 4: was a kid. Just insecurities, whatever the case may be.
- 26:07Speaker 4: It's a tall task, but you know it's his time.
- 26:11Speaker 4: I'm gonna help them. I'm gonna get the money. I'm
- 26:13Speaker 4: gonna get everybody donate. We're gonna donate it. I'm gonna donate.
- 26:16Speaker 4: But he got Joey Dollar got to be the face
- 26:20Speaker 4: of it because he hates shit. He gotta he got,
- 26:22Speaker 4: he got to stand.
- 26:23Speaker 1: Upright and just you got huh uh cleft my man out.
- 26:29Speaker 1: We go on with that.
- 26:31Speaker 4: You know, I don't know what his situation is with Hey,
- 26:33Speaker 4: I'm going Zoey dollars. You know what I'm saying, because
- 26:36Speaker 4: I see him out there, and I see he got
- 26:38Speaker 4: a lot of respect from the streets. It's just all
- 26:40Speaker 4: we want to do is feed people.
- 26:42Speaker 1: That's it. That's all I want to do is feed people.
- 26:45Speaker 1: Let people yo eat.
- 26:47Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Send them, send them food,
- 26:49Speaker 4: send them medicine, send him this.
- 26:50Speaker 1: That's it. That's all I care about.
- 26:52Speaker 3: You can't run from your destiny. Joe Fat Joe is
- 26:54Speaker 3: gonna be the man New York one day.
- 26:56Speaker 1: You got it.
- 26:56Speaker 3: I'm telling you, it's just it's inevitable for you.
- 26:58Speaker 1: You don't see it. Please, I love money. These people
- 27:01Speaker 1: don't get paid. Mh.
- 27:07Speaker 4: I love politics as a as an innocent bystander, you know.
- 27:12Speaker 4: But once you start digging up the bones and going
- 27:14Speaker 4: in the closet, I don't want that type of problem.
- 27:16Speaker 3: But you you're transparent with everything we know. Yeah, you
- 27:19Speaker 3: are on records and I like violence.
- 27:20Speaker 4: Okay, forget how about my daughter just bought a dog.
- 27:28Speaker 4: We have a new member of the family. It's Bear Cardagina.
- 27:31Speaker 4: He's a problem. He's from the Bronx. Okay, don't know, man,
- 27:34Speaker 4: your life.
- 27:35Speaker 1: He's from the Bronx. Let me tell you this guy
- 27:36Speaker 1: to keep biting me. Bit my titty man. Guy, crazy man.
- 27:42Speaker 1: He's a little fluffy uh.
- 27:46Speaker 4: Nah, fluffy one of them things. What ax rich what
- 27:49Speaker 4: he is? He's a fluffy uh a little dog man.
- 27:52Speaker 4: But this guy is a terror. He take my jaws
- 27:54Speaker 4: running around the house with the ship like yo, bro,
- 27:57Speaker 4: I got.
- 27:57Speaker 1: Send him a corrective school.
- 27:59Speaker 4: Do you understand what I'm but that fact Joe was
- 28:02Speaker 4: probably would have kicked him out of the house a
- 28:04Speaker 4: long time ago.
- 28:04Speaker 1: But I'm still trying to deal with it, you know.
- 28:07Speaker 4: But about politics, I really I'm not a politician.
- 28:13Speaker 1: Brother.
- 28:13Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a frenchie, a fluffy. He's a bad from
- 28:21Speaker 4: the Bronx. He's like pistol peach.
- 28:25Speaker 1: He got a knife. He came with a knife with him.
- 28:27Speaker 1: How much you paid for your fluffy French? Them things,
- 28:29Speaker 1: I don't know they had on. I went and got
- 28:32Speaker 1: them all. Shout out to the breeder. That's some fun names.
- 28:34Speaker 4: She's from Orlando, man, we get we get all our
- 28:37Speaker 4: dogs from her.
- 28:38Speaker 1: She ain't no joke. She in Orlando. She's the best.
- 28:40Speaker 4: So she went and got that for my daughter, and
- 28:43Speaker 4: and YO ask him for the name.
- 28:45Speaker 1: That's why I didn't get a fluffy one.
- 28:46Speaker 5: It was like, got the regular one.
- 28:49Speaker 4: No, it's expensive. Yeah, but that's not the problem. Yeah,
- 28:53Speaker 4: I want a nice dog. Yeah, okay, that's my problem.
- 28:57Speaker 4: I had the dog recently died in my arms year ago.
- 29:00Speaker 4: His name was bismarcky but he was a well what
- 29:04Speaker 4: Bismarck was?
- 29:05Speaker 1: Moti? What's the girl's name from Orlando style bullies? She's
- 29:12Speaker 1: the truth.
- 29:12Speaker 4: I recommend her all the way, but uh, biz Markey
- 29:16Speaker 4: died in my arms right here, in Jersey.
- 29:18Speaker 1: He just he just he fell out of rushing to
- 29:20Speaker 1: the hospital. I couldn't.
- 29:22Speaker 4: He was such a nice dog and he come on.
- 29:24Speaker 4: I come home stressed out and I rub his belly
- 29:27Speaker 4: and I get it.
- 29:28Speaker 1: You know, the man was dead for me. This guy
- 29:31Speaker 1: want to bite me and all that. We gotta work
- 29:34Speaker 1: on this guy.
- 29:35Speaker 4: Yes, he's from the Bronx. There's no other way the
- 29:38Speaker 4: way tell you.
- 29:38Speaker 3: I want to ask you about Leaning Back again, because
- 29:40Speaker 3: you know, Leaning Back such a classic record. You remember
- 29:43Speaker 3: the ad libs, right, and I remember you shouting out
- 29:45Speaker 3: Raoul and.
- 29:48Speaker 1: I did and went there.
- 29:52Speaker 4: He was my best friend and the most trusted uh
- 29:56Speaker 4: friend in the world. And it was a time where
- 29:59Speaker 4: every body went against me, even my own crew and
- 30:03Speaker 4: hard being the leader of some serious guys. Right, And
- 30:06Speaker 4: I remember one time it almost went crazy and the
- 30:11Speaker 4: man came and.
- 30:13Speaker 1: Stood on my feet.
- 30:16Speaker 4: He went in front of me and went on my
- 30:18Speaker 4: feet like he wasn't touching it. His feet was on
- 30:20Speaker 4: my feet. He said, a anybody move with this guy here.
- 30:27Speaker 4: It's howful everybody. He was looking at dangerous guys, but
- 30:31Speaker 4: he stopped on my feet.
- 30:34Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying.
- 30:35Speaker 4: Like he said this is the priority. You know, we're
- 30:41Speaker 4: going And so you know, that was the type of
- 30:44Speaker 4: guy he was. He's my best friend since high school.
- 30:47Speaker 4: And uh, that was that was that was crazy.
- 30:49Speaker 1: I wonder.
- 30:50Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it's still crazy. You know, I'm
- 30:52Speaker 4: gonna get buried by Raoul, you know what I'm saying.
- 30:55Speaker 4: In Miami, I buried them and we did a beautiful funeral,
- 30:58Speaker 4: and uh, and I realize going to see him, I said, man,
- 31:01Speaker 4: this way, I'm going this way, They're gonna bury me
- 31:04Speaker 4: right next to my man.
- 31:06Speaker 3: His last post speaks volumes because he was bigging you up.
- 31:09Speaker 3: He said, if you ran the world, everybody would.
- 31:11Speaker 1: Eat, everybody would he that's what we're about. You know. Uh.
- 31:15Speaker 1: I got a mentor. His name is Jay al right,
- 31:18Speaker 1: and he passed away too. He was a billionaire. He
- 31:22Speaker 1: taught me.
- 31:22Speaker 4: He taught me everything I know about business, right, and.
- 31:27Speaker 1: And his whole concept was we all got to eat.
- 31:31Speaker 4: If you eat, I eat. If you're successful, I eat.
- 31:35Speaker 4: And so one thing that I know, we're getting better
- 31:38Speaker 4: at it. But within the black and brown community, it
- 31:40Speaker 4: was always like I'm.
- 31:42Speaker 1: The king of the tower and you're under me. And
- 31:45Speaker 1: that's not strength. Strength is if you know, we know him.
- 31:49Speaker 1: He got all the money. But if he ever needed something,
- 31:51Speaker 1: he could call Joe. I got him.
- 31:53Speaker 4: You know, if I ever needed you for something, that
- 31:55Speaker 4: needed you something that's strength. Strength is everybody eating in
- 32:00Speaker 4: their own way.
- 32:01Speaker 1: We ain't get We really don't need nothing. We don't
- 32:05Speaker 1: need nothing. Everybody doing just fine.
- 32:06Speaker 4: But if we did, you know, that's the real strength.
- 32:10Speaker 1: Like everybody Rich.
- 32:15Speaker 4: Cutches, that was one of the coach had too many
- 32:19Speaker 4: great lines, but that was one of the greatest lines
- 32:22Speaker 4: ever in hip hop history because it's the truth. People
- 32:25Speaker 4: always thought, you think you, something happened to you. Everybody
- 32:28Speaker 4: else has broke everybody else to do.
- 32:30Speaker 1: What do you? What are we doing? You know? Shout
- 32:33Speaker 1: out Rich player to ask him for the present.
- 32:35Speaker 4: He just started the Cannabis Joint on the eighteenth grand opening.
- 32:40Speaker 1: His paint pop past paint puff y'all. I'm the only
- 32:42Speaker 1: one don't know the name, but.
- 32:45Speaker 4: From Melbourne's Hall them stand up, Hall them, Hall them
- 32:49Speaker 4: right by Melbourne Cannabis World, paint.
- 32:54Speaker 1: The paint puffing and peace people you know.
- 32:58Speaker 4: But my brother, Yeah, but it brings me joy to
- 33:01Speaker 4: see my brother winning. It brings me joy to see
- 33:04Speaker 4: my brother's winning. It brings me joy to know that
- 33:06Speaker 4: he's employing people in the community that look like us.
- 33:10Speaker 4: You know, that's what y'all gotta understand. That is the strength.
- 33:14Speaker 4: You know, I say all the time. You know, we
- 33:15Speaker 4: all said we want to get out the projects, we
- 33:17Speaker 4: want to get out the hood, but people get out
- 33:20Speaker 4: or never come back, you know what I'm saying. So
- 33:22Speaker 4: that's why I try to keep a presence out there
- 33:24Speaker 4: and the open businesses in the hood and employ single,
- 33:29Speaker 4: single parent mothers. And you know, I got a single
- 33:32Speaker 4: parent mother. I won't say her name, but she called
- 33:35Speaker 4: me up. She finally understood, you know, she from the hood.
- 33:37Speaker 1: We gave it job. She been with us ten years,
- 33:39Speaker 1: but she said, y'all, I bought my first house. Wow.
- 33:41Speaker 1: And she was so emotional and I felt it, and
- 33:45Speaker 1: I was like, you see this what I was trying
- 33:46Speaker 1: to tell you.
- 33:47Speaker 4: I was trying to tell you, if you rock with
- 33:49Speaker 4: the team, you're gonna grow, You're gonna be a boss,
- 33:52Speaker 4: You're gonna go to another level. But that's the stuff
- 33:56Speaker 4: that makes me happiest, you know what I'm saying, And
- 33:59Speaker 4: you know, making sure you know, I'm hoping that when
- 34:02Speaker 4: all my employees cut their Thanksgiving turkey. They'd be like, Yo,
- 34:05Speaker 4: thank you for fat God, you got us the turkey.
- 34:09Speaker 4: You know what I mean, that's what it's about.
- 34:10Speaker 1: Did you.
- 34:11Speaker 3: I know, I know you got a bunch of phone
- 34:13Speaker 3: calls when you did your video with the Trumps, the
- 34:15Speaker 3: Trump sneak them.
- 34:18Speaker 4: It wasn't the flex. It wasn't the flex. Look, it
- 34:22Speaker 4: wasn't the flex. You know, I'm a big sneaker collector.
- 34:24Speaker 1: It wasn't it. It wasn't it. And so uh, you
- 34:28Speaker 1: know I owned thousands and thousands. I got the rarest sneakers.
- 34:31Speaker 4: If Michael Jackson made a sneaker made out of the
- 34:33Speaker 4: white glove, I got it. If Prince I got a
- 34:38Speaker 4: sneaker that's made for Prince, the Prince never got like
- 34:42Speaker 4: I got all the rarest sneakers in America.
- 34:45Speaker 1: But that was not the flex. The Kamaa like, nah,
- 34:50Speaker 1: they know what, they know where my heart is at,
- 34:51Speaker 1: they know what that was.
- 34:53Speaker 2: Just it was wrong.
- 34:53Speaker 1: It was so you. You was the only person America
- 34:59Speaker 1: got it right wrong. You know why?
- 35:03Speaker 4: You know why, because I'm mature enough to put myself
- 35:07Speaker 4: out standing out the box. Be like yo, if cam wrong,
- 35:10Speaker 4: would do them sneakers up or fave of one of
- 35:13Speaker 4: them out have been pissed at them because you know,
- 35:17Speaker 4: you know this guy. You know, you know you gotta
- 35:20Speaker 4: come around, Charlet Magne, you gotta come around, man, because
- 35:23Speaker 4: you know this guy.
- 35:24Speaker 1: See, we have a short no, no, we have a
- 35:27Speaker 1: short term memory.
- 35:28Speaker 4: We have a short term memory, right, and we forget
- 35:33Speaker 4: that two years ago we was all like sick of
- 35:35Speaker 4: this guy.
- 35:36Speaker 1: We wanted it, and I like, we want the guy
- 35:38Speaker 1: back because when you don't co sign.
- 35:40Speaker 4: This side, you you like leave it open to like,
- 35:43Speaker 4: you know, you go over there, and I don't like
- 35:47Speaker 4: the way it felt. I did not like the way
- 35:50Speaker 4: that time felt when he was you know, president. I'm
- 35:54Speaker 4: trying to get a law passed, so I don't want
- 35:56Speaker 4: to go to partisan with it.
- 35:58Speaker 3: But you know what I mean, I tell people that
- 36:02Speaker 3: you know, he's come home, come home, man, I'm not no, no, no,
- 36:07Speaker 3: you like that's our home.
- 36:09Speaker 1: Let me tell you what it is. This is. This
- 36:11Speaker 1: is the one problem I got. And this is with
- 36:13Speaker 1: all my friends because I got a lot of Trumpers around. No, no,
- 36:19Speaker 1: I got yeah.
- 36:20Speaker 4: But when you when when when when you stay new
- 36:22Speaker 4: to what Martin Luther King says, silence is you know,
- 36:26Speaker 4: he's not feeling. He not feeling Joe Biden and Kamala
- 36:29Speaker 4: right like you like Kamala. Damn, that's good news. That's
- 36:33Speaker 4: a breaking. That's a breaking, all right. That's a break
- 36:36Speaker 4: that that's a break in what I thought now. But
- 36:39Speaker 4: what I'm saying is uh, to say nothing is like
- 36:44Speaker 4: to co sign that.
- 36:45Speaker 1: Right. My thing is, uh, I believe in.
- 36:52Speaker 4: We all we all made enough money, we all from here,
- 36:55Speaker 4: we want to make more. I believe in capitalism, but
- 36:57Speaker 4: I believe in looking out for the less fortune of course.
- 37:00Speaker 1: Right.
- 37:01Speaker 4: My best friends who are Republicans and Trumpers, they said, Bro,
- 37:05Speaker 4: you make so much money, you want to saving tax
- 37:10Speaker 4: there's a morality clause there for me. Well, I don't
- 37:13Speaker 4: feel good just saving taxes, and I gotta deal with
- 37:19Speaker 4: You know, there's two donkeys out here. There's one that
- 37:21Speaker 4: you put the pig on, and if you don't put
- 37:23Speaker 4: the saddle on them, he can't walk straight. He's a donkey,
- 37:27Speaker 4: right then you that, y'all listen, Then there's another donkey,
- 37:34Speaker 4: you know. Ah, listen, man, you make your choice when
- 37:39Speaker 4: it's time, man, whatever the case may be. But I'm
- 37:41Speaker 4: just trying to tell you man, there's serious times out here,
- 37:47Speaker 4: and I like to think I'm with the righteous. I'm
- 37:52Speaker 4: with the righteous team. You know what I'm saying. That's
- 37:54Speaker 4: just what I'm saying. And and for all the people
- 37:59Speaker 4: who got on me for showing them Trump sneakers, no.
- 38:03Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, not at the base.
- 38:06Speaker 4: You know, I've never seen hate like this in my life.
- 38:09Speaker 4: Like fire Roommania, he's a sellout, you know, they was
- 38:13Speaker 4: at that. I'm like, damn, I wish you guys come
- 38:15Speaker 4: out to the polls, but you really feel that way.
- 38:18Speaker 4: But what gets me confused about politics is why this
- 38:21Speaker 4: scary part of politics.
- 38:23Speaker 1: Four days later, I'm a Kamela in the White House.
- 38:26Speaker 1: Oh what you doing with this woman? With these people?
- 38:31Speaker 4: Man, you understand I'm old enough to know that I'm
- 38:34Speaker 4: not a sellout. I'm trying to get you guys a party. Okay,
- 38:40Speaker 4: I'm sitting with her navigating. You know, Yo, Yoe were
- 38:45Speaker 4: giving pardons out. Oh sure, I would love to sit
- 38:48Speaker 4: next to you for this one, Like we're gonna give
- 38:51Speaker 4: some people pardons.
- 38:52Speaker 2: I gotta ask, though, I know you gotta go. You
- 38:55Speaker 2: did apologize the other day to a young kid.
- 38:58Speaker 1: Oh no, no, that was just a that was a
- 39:00Speaker 1: regular apologize.
- 39:01Speaker 4: You know what happened was you know that's why I
- 39:04Speaker 4: got in trouble, Well, not in trouble, but that's why
- 39:07Speaker 4: people got in their panties about the Trump sneaker.
- 39:11Speaker 1: Right. So the thing about sneaker collecting is it's ego.
- 39:16Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, I got the joint you ain't got
- 39:18Speaker 1: Clark can't get sick when I put up something. He
- 39:21Speaker 1: hit me up, y'all.
- 39:22Speaker 4: You just sucker mayor threatens me. We do this worldwide.
- 39:26Speaker 4: This is it's just like hip hop. You pull out
- 39:28Speaker 4: the sneaker. Oh, everybody's mad.
- 39:30Speaker 1: Whatever.
- 39:31Speaker 4: We love each other, shout out DJ Clark can't and
- 39:36Speaker 4: and but you know, we flex. So a little kid
- 39:39Speaker 4: comes up to me and I didn't realize he was
- 39:42Speaker 4: a little kid, and I flexed on him.
- 39:44Speaker 1: Shout out the.
- 39:44Speaker 4: Little Jozzy that the reporter Nah went bad, Like I
- 39:49Speaker 4: got sneakers older than you?
- 39:51Speaker 1: Why got that?
- 39:52Speaker 4: When I look back at the video, yo, solo, man,
- 39:54Speaker 4: I felt terrible.
- 39:56Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the kid an interview. Noah, I'm good.
- 39:58Speaker 1: I swear to god, I got what kind of questions?
- 40:04Speaker 1: You trying to too cocky? Like come on, man, checked
- 40:08Speaker 1: yourself patrol. Nothing. I was just on my cocky. I
- 40:13Speaker 1: went to sneaker car and all the sneaker collectors and
- 40:16Speaker 1: the like. He says, Yo, let me ask a question
- 40:19Speaker 1: about why are you the man you ask you questions?
- 40:24Speaker 1: I got this sticker. I looked at the video. I
- 40:28Speaker 1: was so embarrassed. Like a week later, man Yo asked
- 40:32Speaker 1: Rich who was again, who's the kid? Asked Rich the ball?
- 40:34Speaker 1: But who's the kid? Yo? Bro. I looked at that.
- 40:36Speaker 1: I said, oh, no, I gotta I gotta correct myself.
- 40:40Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Let me tell you what.
- 40:42Speaker 4: No, no, we gotta be very careful. I'm gonna tell
- 40:44Speaker 4: you what. I know you work hard. I know you
- 40:47Speaker 4: tired sometime. I know you got things to do. People
- 40:52Speaker 4: don't know that celebrities really have real life, really stressed
- 40:55Speaker 4: out beyond the scene.
- 40:56Speaker 1: We're dealing with parents that are ill.
- 40:59Speaker 4: Who knows your kid might just your kid grew up
- 41:02Speaker 4: in a mansion, but now he wants to think he's
- 41:05Speaker 4: a gang member and being the hood, and now you
- 41:07Speaker 4: gotta worry about your son. I mean, we worked all
- 41:10Speaker 4: our life to give our kids a great and somehow
- 41:12Speaker 4: they all want to end up in the hood.
- 41:14Speaker 1: In the gang, trying to trying to be like something
- 41:17Speaker 1: they miss, right, And so.
- 41:21Speaker 4: Sometimes we're guilty of being in the airport really really tired,
- 41:24Speaker 4: and somebody might ask you for a picture or something.
- 41:27Speaker 1: You just like, yo, I just did, and I got
- 41:29Speaker 1: a chill. You know.
- 41:31Speaker 4: I'm in the All Star Weekend and I'm walking out
- 41:35Speaker 4: and I see one of my favorite correspondents, Wolf Blitzer.
- 41:40Speaker 1: From seeing that, I mean, I grew up with Wolf.
- 41:42Speaker 4: I love this guy, right, So I see him and
- 41:45Speaker 4: I go Wolf Blitzer almost groupie, like, I'm just gonna
- 41:48Speaker 4: be honest with you.
- 41:49Speaker 1: I never seen him in my life. Was that your Wolf,
- 41:52Speaker 1: Wolf Blitcher.
- 41:54Speaker 4: So he keeps going his whole team, I mean the
- 41:58Speaker 4: whole team. That's Cure, the publicist, maybe his daughter, whatever.
- 42:03Speaker 4: They ran in front of him.
- 42:04Speaker 1: They're like, yo, it's fat yolays fat Joe. He looks
- 42:08Speaker 1: to the side. I could see him a little bit,
- 42:10Speaker 1: you know, I can see him. I don't care who
- 42:13Speaker 1: it is. Let's go. I was sitting there, said Wolf.
- 42:20Speaker 4: He was walking away, said Wolf. And I knew from
- 42:23Speaker 4: that moment I never want to treat one of my fans.
- 42:27Speaker 1: Like that again. And that and and and so so
- 42:31Speaker 1: the kid probably came up Fat Joe number one sneaker.
- 42:36Speaker 1: I want to smoke with me. What's his name? Did he?
- 42:43Speaker 1: Last question? I gotta ask you?
- 42:44Speaker 2: Know you you talk about all the time how people
- 42:46Speaker 2: try you feel, try to trick you out, trick you
- 42:48Speaker 2: out of your position.
- 42:49Speaker 1: Right.
- 42:50Speaker 2: They want you to punch him in the face. They
- 42:51Speaker 2: want you to do something for him to take And
- 42:53Speaker 2: you said you spend a long time dealing with that.
- 42:55Speaker 2: Have you ever had conversations with some of these artists
- 42:58Speaker 2: to be like, it's okay to let it go.
- 43:00Speaker 1: What happens, what happens, for instance, or what happened else.
- 43:04Speaker 1: What happens to me is that my life is transparent.
- 43:07Speaker 4: Gabriel, Gabriel, my life. That's the little kid that does
- 43:11Speaker 4: the interviews. I'm gonna do one with them. My life
- 43:15Speaker 4: is so transparent. So when you see me going on,
- 43:17Speaker 4: I g and I tell you.
- 43:18Speaker 1: About I got bullied, beat up, or I write the Book.
- 43:20Speaker 4: Of Jose, or I tell them when we won, when
- 43:23Speaker 4: we lost. I tell them stories like how I lost
- 43:26Speaker 4: two million dollars when somebody was trying to give it
- 43:28Speaker 4: to me, but I had thirty forty thugs with me
- 43:30Speaker 4: and they stopped.
- 43:31Speaker 1: That's the way I reach out to them.
- 43:33Speaker 4: Now if somebody calls me or somebody talks to me
- 43:36Speaker 4: like you know, I've talked to the biggest young like
- 43:39Speaker 4: you know, the Kodak Blacks twenty one Savages. They asked
- 43:43Speaker 4: the OG questions to be like yo, g And sometimes
- 43:46Speaker 4: I don't mind my business.
- 43:48Speaker 1: If I see Lotto who who I love?
- 43:52Speaker 4: Right, If I see about to get into something, I
- 43:54Speaker 4: hit it with the DMB, like says, get that moving,
- 43:57Speaker 4: and we don't.
- 44:00Speaker 1: Through there, been there, done that, And she'd be like, oh,
- 44:02Speaker 1: thank you, OG. I had to hear this.
- 44:04Speaker 4: And so you know, I always reach out to the
- 44:06Speaker 4: to the young kings and queens that's moving and be like,
- 44:09Speaker 4: oh no, we got to go Cardi B. I'll be like, no, no, no, no,
- 44:12Speaker 4: you have to keep that moving, like he's trying to jam.
- 44:15Speaker 4: And I've been through every jam though. You know, I
- 44:17Speaker 4: learned right, And I appreciate you guys, uh for just
- 44:22Speaker 4: keeping it about subject man. But it was a young
- 44:25Speaker 4: guy where it was a young guy he went to
- 44:28Speaker 4: the radio. I don't know who he is. I owe
- 44:30Speaker 4: him so much money, right, it's a young rapper.
- 44:33Speaker 1: He went up there. He had a project out. I
- 44:36Speaker 1: think this was in LA. Let's just get New York
- 44:38Speaker 1: out the clear.
- 44:39Speaker 4: And he went in there and went to talk about
- 44:41Speaker 4: his album and they said, Yo man, what's up sweet
- 44:43Speaker 4: rappers touch and such? He said, Yo man, I don't
- 44:46Speaker 4: really know that, brother, I'm here to talk about the
- 44:48Speaker 4: new album. Right, kept going, what about rappers such and such?
- 44:53Speaker 4: He said, Bro, this is how you jam usself and
- 44:57Speaker 4: you start us going against each other. I'm not here
- 45:00Speaker 4: for that about my album. And I watched the on
- 45:03Speaker 4: air person that I said, well we just talking about
- 45:05Speaker 4: that album. We ain't really got nothing to talk about.
- 45:07Speaker 4: That was the end of the interview. But from that
- 45:11Speaker 4: young dude, me or O G. I learned so much
- 45:16Speaker 4: from that young kid. I always him money is what
- 45:18Speaker 4: I'm trying to tell you because I used to come
- 45:20Speaker 4: up here and just like Joe, what about yeah, got
- 45:24Speaker 4: him do this?
- 45:25Speaker 3: Do that?
- 45:26Speaker 1: And I'm sitting.
- 45:26Speaker 4: Here and when I look at my old interviews, I
- 45:31Speaker 4: was like I was just an automatic goal.
- 45:33Speaker 1: Like it was like anything you said that Joe, he
- 45:35Speaker 1: gonna run out.
- 45:35Speaker 4: And you know, a crash dummy, just straight up a
- 45:39Speaker 4: crash dummy, Like where do you think about.
- 45:40Speaker 1: Let's go yeah, I don't care, you know, telling the truth.
- 45:45Speaker 1: That's who that's your life, that's that's who you were.
- 45:47Speaker 1: It's not like you was up here lying like no, no.
- 45:49Speaker 4: No, But why happened to me one time that that
- 45:52Speaker 4: you gotta be careful because your words are powerful. And
- 45:55Speaker 4: I'm really not trying to but it's his perfect example.
- 45:59Speaker 4: He's Coast West Coast. I'm really tight with Biggie Smalls.
- 46:02Speaker 4: I do know Tupac's your cord, right. I know that's
- 46:06Speaker 4: weird to the young kids listening, but Biggie's my man,
- 46:09Speaker 4: my man, my man, right family since day one.
- 46:14Speaker 1: And Tupac I know him. We cool. But I get
- 46:17Speaker 1: up here and they do it to me. Hey know
- 46:18Speaker 1: what you think about the East coast West Coast? Yo, y'all.
- 46:20Speaker 4: I don't know, man, but if somebody talk to me,
- 46:24Speaker 4: it's on it popping out here like we can get it,
- 46:26Speaker 4: popping this whatever they want this this now, Tupacs in
- 46:31Speaker 4: jail doing time up up in New York. The Spanish
- 46:35Speaker 4: cats hear that, and they start making them feel real
- 46:37Speaker 4: uncomfortable in jail. Now right, move to our bell can
- 46:41Speaker 4: tell you the story, right, So Tupac reaches out to me,
- 46:46Speaker 4: it says, Yo Joe.
- 46:47Speaker 1: Put them on the phone. I think it was great.
- 46:49Speaker 4: Nice from Nice and Smooth put them on the phone
- 46:51Speaker 4: and like, yo, I got Tupac, so bless you.
- 46:54Speaker 1: He's like, I got Tupac. Now your sup. And he's like, yo, Joe,
- 46:58Speaker 1: you know, I'm fuck with you. You know.
- 46:59Speaker 4: My beef with them is this and this and that.
- 47:01Speaker 4: He was like, you know, they're making it real uncomfortable
- 47:03Speaker 4: for me in here. The Spanish dudes. It's like, you
- 47:06Speaker 4: got on the radio center, kite, you don't rock with me.
- 47:09Speaker 4: So I had to send the real kite to the
- 47:12Speaker 4: Spanish dudes in there and say, yo, yo, I don't
- 47:14Speaker 4: really have a problem with him, Like don't don't do that.
- 47:18Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 47:18Speaker 4: They wind up being cool with him in there, and
- 47:21Speaker 4: you know, and so he always said to his crew
- 47:25Speaker 4: and everybody like yo, fat Joe. You know he held
- 47:27Speaker 4: it down. But you gotta be your words are very
- 47:29Speaker 4: powerful and they could cause real situations out there without
- 47:34Speaker 4: you even knowing, So you.
- 47:35Speaker 1: Gotta be careful.
- 47:36Speaker 2: But Joe gotta go, guys ay prow second to you, Apollo,
- 47:40Speaker 2: that's right, get your tickets standing up.
- 47:42Speaker 1: I mean he's so doubt.
- 47:44Speaker 4: But if you can get one to buy from a scalper,
- 47:47Speaker 4: do it. No, I just people tell me Terror Squad
- 47:51Speaker 4: will a different dr name. You See how cal it move,
- 47:53Speaker 4: See how I move. I don't take nothing for chance.
- 47:57Speaker 4: If my sneaker came out, I went again the sneaker
- 48:00Speaker 4: to anybody who would take it, to make sure it's
- 48:03Speaker 4: sold out.
- 48:04Speaker 1: I'm not thank you, brother, thank you. The point is
- 48:08Speaker 1: I'm gonna put in that work.
- 48:09Speaker 4: So Apollo is so doubt already congratulations, but I'm still
- 48:13Speaker 4: making my rounds to let y'all know you're gonna miss something.
- 48:17Speaker 1: Is an all time high in New York.
- 48:21Speaker 4: It's a billion dollars on the stage at one night
- 48:25Speaker 4: at the Apollo April second. I don't know how else
- 48:28Speaker 4: to take. I don't know who else is coming. It's
- 48:31Speaker 4: gonna get dumb. I can't confirm them. But in the
- 48:36Speaker 4: world of hip hop, there is nobody who's not calling
- 48:40Speaker 4: the phone talking about we pulling up. You know what, Cali,
- 48:45Speaker 4: the whole Philly coming, the Beanie Siegulls, this, this, that, this, this,
- 48:50Speaker 4: anybody you could think of on the planet, the mab Deeps,
- 48:54Speaker 4: the this, the Kims, the kiss that won't stop.
- 48:57Speaker 1: The four like your og.
- 48:58Speaker 4: We're gonna salute you, We're gonna see how smooth, and
- 49:03Speaker 4: then it's just not gonna stop.
- 49:06Speaker 1: You might see you might of course, Norie, you might
- 49:09Speaker 1: see out of nowhere. Girl, I've been thinking about you
- 49:13Speaker 1: all day long. We're going real he hate on him,
- 49:17Speaker 1: were going real ninety. It's getting done.
- 49:22Speaker 4: I mean all I keep saying every time my phone
- 49:25Speaker 4: goes down, all I hear is that that that that
- 49:27Speaker 4: Bay Area song, dumb dumb, dum dum. I swear to god,
- 49:31Speaker 4: that's all. That's the theme song of this show is.
- 49:34Speaker 4: I just keep hearing dumb dumb. You know how they
- 49:37Speaker 4: get high feel dumb dumb. I can't believe it.
- 49:40Speaker 1: I'm sitting I'm let's see how this happens. We're gonna
- 49:42Speaker 1: see Little Gabriel. Huh, little Gabriel coming. No, no, no, no, no.
- 49:47Speaker 1: I don't really know him. He knows you you know music. Yeah,
- 49:51Speaker 1: I don't know him, but anybody I do know. Man,
- 49:56Speaker 1: they coming.
- 49:56Speaker 2: It sounds like there's gonna be two nights.
- 49:58Speaker 1: No, it's one night. Se No.
- 50:02Speaker 4: People that want about tickets to no, no, no, no, no,
- 50:05Speaker 4: the one.
- 50:05Speaker 1: Day ask favors every night. Yeah, Apollo budget ain't like that.
- 50:09Speaker 1: Come on, let's get get real. We ain't making no money.
- 50:12Speaker 1: This is a culture this one night only, you know
- 50:14Speaker 1: what I mean.
- 50:15Speaker 4: It's Fat Joe coming back to his home, the Apollo Theater,
- 50:18Speaker 4: and we're gonna just leave it all on the floor.
- 50:19Speaker 4: And I just think that we need a good time.
- 50:23Speaker 4: We just want to have a good time. Smoke the ship,
- 50:25Speaker 4: drink the ship, have fun. If you don't get high,
- 50:28Speaker 4: I don't get high, so were good, right, But just
- 50:31Speaker 4: come in there.
- 50:32Speaker 1: And enjoy and be in the moment.
- 50:35Speaker 4: You know you could, you can film whatever you want,
- 50:37Speaker 4: but I'd rather you just be in the moment because
- 50:39Speaker 4: it's gonna be one of them nights in New York
- 50:42Speaker 4: City history that you're never gonna forget if you're in
- 50:45Speaker 4: the building. And if you're not in the building, you're
- 50:48Speaker 4: gonna be sick because they're gonna be calling you like,
- 50:51Speaker 4: oh my god.
- 50:53Speaker 1: You know you might just be chilling out a way
- 50:56Speaker 1: no where you're here, jeezu Boa. We could get it.
- 51:00Speaker 4: We could get the drama. Poppet, what's going with that
- 51:04Speaker 4: many men in my before?
- 51:05Speaker 1: You'll never perform together? I mean, I'm not saying.
- 51:09Speaker 4: I'm just trying to say and the hip hop wishes.
- 51:12Speaker 4: That's what I'm trying to tell you, is that billion
- 51:14Speaker 4: dollars on the stage. It could be anybody. They might
- 51:17Speaker 4: just come through gliding like you know what I'm saying.
- 51:21Speaker 4: What I can tell you is not a single person
- 51:23Speaker 4: I have called and said, No, that's all I'm saying,
- 51:27Speaker 4: not one person. I said, you know, yeah, you might
- 51:35Speaker 4: be in there and go. Milk is chilling, gis most chilling.
- 51:38Speaker 4: What more can I say? Tops what they said? What
- 51:45Speaker 4: did jamake it say? It's gonna be a lot of
- 51:52Speaker 4: pull up. No, No, it's gonna be shout out to
- 51:55Speaker 4: DJ test Move. He's gonna be DJ and the whole joint.
- 51:58Speaker 4: You know he aren't that you know what I'm saying.
- 52:00Speaker 4: All the DJ's hit me up. They want to get
- 52:02Speaker 4: on and test the move told me he said, they
- 52:04Speaker 4: wasn't with you shooting in the gym right?
- 52:06Speaker 1: And I said, y'all looked at Tad.
- 52:08Speaker 4: I said, wow, that whole covid I did the Fat
- 52:11Speaker 4: Joe show, ted was up there, DJ and woman.
- 52:13Speaker 1: I said, you why you deserve this?
- 52:15Speaker 2: Let's go Tad and the lady the only one that
- 52:16Speaker 2: deserved that.
- 52:17Speaker 3: That's the absolutely Joe Kritak, always a pleasure, my brother,
- 52:22Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
- 52:23Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club, Fat Joe, get that hands up in
- 52:26Speaker 2: the morning.
- 52:27Speaker 1: Breakfast Club