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PGA First Look | January 29, 2024 | AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am DraftKings DFS Pricing and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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All system's going clear the lift up? What's up? Everyone? Tyler Tamberline
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here aka TOTEG and Tambeau back for another edition of the First Look PGA show
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this week on the Ship at Nation YouTube station. But the same crew has
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always got my guy degenerate seventy five here with me, gonna break it all
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down. Haven't looked yet, but you know I always go to the first
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comment and shut to our guy. Nick will be seeing him at the Waiste
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measure Phoenix Oba says Rory's price. Oh, I can't for this, so
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I guess we're gonna see that when we get there. I had it up
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and ready. I did get a quick glance, but not too much and
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too in depth. But James, my man degenerate seventy five, I'll bring
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you in first. What's going on, man? How you doing? I
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mean pretty good? I got that. I got the fresh forty of colbrew,
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which it sounds like I'm gonna be pouring one out for the homies today
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because if Rory's priced over eleven thousand, I am going to shit all over
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that. But other than not doing good fun week last week, a lot
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of showdown success for the community, and I and now we have a signature
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event. Is there no cut? Yes, that kind of blows donkey Dick,
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But I would rather have a no cut event than no golf at all.
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Pal. Yeah, I mean last week was whenever I wasn't tie on
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and I guess so football was on the mind and we got it over with
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early and got there. I like the Showdown slate. Lots of advantage there.
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Two out of three slates were good for me. One was not so
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good. A couple could have been better, but overall, solid week.
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Thank you to everybody out there. I see a lot of birthday wishes.
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Thank you guys. I do appreciate that it was yesterday got the Ravens taking
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the l for the birthday present. But other good day otherwise in the NFL
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streets. But we'll hop right in, man. Anything you want to talk
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about from last week, first of all, anything you want to add on
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from there. It just was so refreshing to like actually see you guys,
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you know, struggle their balls off, Like it was just so fun to
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actually watch golf, like you're not just going to every hole thinking well he's
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gonna birdy this one. It was like, oh shit, he hit it
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in the rough. This is definitely a bogie. It was really fun.
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I just enjoy it. I love when winning scores are like minus fourteen or
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lower. Right, that's just a much more enjoyable round of golf to me.
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When a guy actually makes a birdy, it means something. When they
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make a streak, you're like, he's nutted. I love those, right.
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So I just enjoyed that, and I think we're gonna get more of
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it this week. Just looking at some early weather and and the fact that
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they took out Monterey Peninsul this year. It's only the two course rotation as
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opposed to the three course rotation. I think you're gonna see some other fathers
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get their asses kicked this week. Yeah, can you talk a little bit
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more on that. I mean, it was still going all around in our
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discord this morning. I'm sure the same old over at ear Cent will bring
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those up here in a minute, But just to talk about that. Obviously,
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the change with it being a signature event is they pulled MP. You
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just talked about it. Monterey Peninsula is out, so Spyglass and Pebble Beach.
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It's a two course rotation out of the gates, right, they'll each
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play on one or the other to start, and then after that, I
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believe they're just gonna go to the weekend all at Pebble, Right, is
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that staying the same there, So it's basically the same format as last week,
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Right, you play the two courses, you rotate them the first two
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rounds. This week we're back to the Thursday Friday, right, and so'll
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you'll play one on each And honestly, Monterey has always been the easiest of
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the three and it's out so Spyglass is actually tougher than Pebble Beach, but
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with the win, Pebble Beach can be very, very tricky tough too,
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So I think you're gonna see a lot of ass kicking. Then on Saturday
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and Sunday, round three and round four they're going to boot all the amateurs
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out, so we're not gonna have to fucking watch Bill Murray all weekend,
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you know, like Skull and seven Irons, and we'll actually get to watch
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real golf and it's gonna be an incredible field. So it should be a
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really good watch, especially if that weather continues on into the weekend, and
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it wouldn't surprise me if we see a single digit winner. If this wind
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holds up the entire time. Yeah, it'll be interesting when we get in
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to the pricing talk about it. Jacobs says, one more week. Couldn't
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be more relieved. I'm the same. I don't know how you feel about
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this. I can't wait. I'm excited, not just because we're gonna be
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at the waste Management Phoenix Sofon with a bunch of good people, but because
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that to me is like the kickoff the real deal. Let's go. It's
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not against these events. I like the Farmers, it's one Genesis waste Manager,
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which are coming up. I'd like some of these events I've talked about
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the last couple, but very excited to get past this weekend. But like
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you said, the good news about this year for this weekend, we've got
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a really strong field. We'll get there. Shortly before we get there,
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give you a second here, James, just to go through. Gotta show
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off the site degenerate seventy five D seventy five dot com. But I think
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I have to change it up here. Let me see, there we go.
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I got it. I told you Tiger looks gangster with a split screen
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like that. Oh, there we go. Okay, yeah, so just
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a Dejen seventy five. I'm just telling you, like I won't shit on
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other sides. I'll just tell you that nobody is more of a try hard
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when it comes to ownership projections putting out content for people that is like more
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golf specific. I mean like, if anybody knows me, I do football,
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you know I'm gonna be doing Nascar. I do golf. Everybody knows
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me as the golf guy. Just care a lot about it. And I
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believe that people should be able to get great content to be able to help
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them be competitive. And dfs without price gouting what a novel concept, so
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you can see the prices there. I will warn you. I have this
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big guy package which is like, ill, this is the last week.
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I'm allowing it nine more days and then we're gonna shut down. It'snstantly just
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getting too full, and I want to be able to give all those guys
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my attention. So if you want to get in that it is my highest
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package. And we have meetings before every single slate going over everything you need.
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But after from nine days from now, it's gone. It's just too
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damn full. And I you know, there's only so much of the big
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guy to go around, if you know what I mean. Yeah, love
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that. There's a lot going on, like you said. And one of
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the things too, we've partnered with you on this stuff and we have it
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up on our site so for any of our members that are seeing it is
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obviously when you go to the main slate stuff, we've got some crossover you
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have there was that a stone, which is an incredible tool if you want
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to have everything all in one place, you guys can use the promo code
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ship it when you go over to DJN seventy five get yourself ten percent off
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if you want to check it out. Support James. But also the showdown
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golf stuff obviously that's where your stream originally started. Now it's super popular.
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Every single week you do the round three, round four, which not everybody
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does out there, and they definitely don't do it to the level that you
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do. But the showdown golf stuff you've got with your projections and your ownership,
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you just don't see that out there a lot. And I actually noticed
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last week just looking at some other sites and do it some what do you
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want to call it, industry inspection just to try to get ideas for us
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accountability. Accountability is what I like to call it. Yeah, you know,
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I'm always looking around. We've got our good partnerships and friendships out there,
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but I want to look and see and like some of the places.
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Just for example, like during the round at the North Course, it was
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between Can't Lay moricaua Homa and Xander I guess it was. And it's like
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two of them were playing on the north, two of them were playing on
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the south, and the guys on the south had a higher projection than the
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one of the other guys on the north. It just made absolutely no sense
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just throwing numbers out for projections based on salary. That's insane. Like,
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yeah, could be Travis right here. A lot of projections had north and
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south as they were basing it on salary, and it had nothing to do
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with that. There was a clear edge and advantage. Where again, if
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you're not involved in this projections, as we always say, both of us,
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I think we're pretty aligned when it comes to this, James. It's
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a part of the puzzle, piece of the puzzle having the projection. But
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I mean that was just a clear advantage. That was a clear edge if
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you were using up against another site's projections versus your showdown projections. At that
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point, these people are it's not just the projections too, they're also doing
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it because they're doing that same old, antiquated lazy method with their ownership too.
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So you're playing guys thinking, oh shit, I'm gonna get Xander on
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the good course at eighteen percent. No, you're naughty. Was forty percent.
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They're just lazy and idiots, and you're paying one hundred dollars a month
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for that, and they're not even smart enough to understand that the course split
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is going to lead to dramatically different ownership. I mean, honestly, I
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also say I think they shit's downright fraudulent. It drives me nuts. You
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know. I used to indirectly call people out, got a couple sites to
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fix it, and you know, it just drives me nuts how these people
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in this industry because the average player just doesn't understand the math of ownership,
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doesn't understand the math of projections, and it's very easy to hoodwin these people.
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And that's what drives me nuts. And that's what I'm trying to fix.
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Yeah, we're both doing the same obviously a little bit different on both
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sites, and that's why it's awesome when you can just put the two of
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them together go from there. Like a lot of the other stuff we talked
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about, like the slate plan, I think it's always a good idea.
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I want you to make your own picks and plays, build your own process.
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That's why we have the education course over at shipping nation dot com.
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But if you do want to check out a slate plan and see what others
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are doing, get an idea for yourself, and then take into consideration the
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course, fit rankings, the projections, the ownership, all of those things,
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you can do that as well. So check it out ship a nation
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dot com. Remind me, James, I also forget DJEN seventy five or
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djen, which is the code dejons djen seventy five, right, I think
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so, I'm dude, if you haven't noticed, I'm terrible at this stuff.
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I already forgot to mention it, right, I'm always like, you're
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such an idiot. What is it? We'll get it right if you go
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here, you go to join today, just walk them right through. That's
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the thing you can go down to have a coupon type. It doesn't work.
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D seventy five, or you learn how to type and you type it
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in so it's all caps, right, all caps Djen seventy five. Now
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we're just wrecking the whole promo. Oh fuck, who knows? Who knows?
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Either way? You hit one of us up, we'll get you set
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up. I'm not concerned about it, but that, uh, the main
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setup was just to show off to both sides. You can see it.
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Are you ready to dive in? Because somebody in the chat brought this up.
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I'll get your take quickly, but said, I'm seeing a weather edge
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this week. Are you seeing any edge early on when you're looking at this
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for this? Yeah, I mean I'm always very reluctant to look at weather
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three or four days out. But here's what I know. Pebble Beach is
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easier than spy Glass Hill. However, because it says on the coast,
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if there's one day that's particularly more windy, that makes Pebble Beach as hard
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if not harder than spy Glass And right now, the early projections show Friday
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being quite a bit windier than Thursday. And if that's going to be the
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case, I'm definitely gonna want the windier day. I want my guys over
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at Spyglass Hill because it's more of a parkland style and it's going to be
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more protective from the elements. And I don't want my guys playing the easier
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course when it's windy and the only protection that the Pebble Beach course has is
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the wind or you know, is the wind. And if they're going to
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be up that day, well then I'll take the guys who are on spy
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Glass Hill the windy or day. Yeah. I like that call. That
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used to be the thing too, that people are always checking out, waiting
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in advance to see what the weather was going to bring and then try and
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figure out which course to play on which day and go from there. But
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one more point to that too. I'm also seeing rain on Thursday. And
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my dude Ricardo over here, I think, just played Spyglass Hill last week
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and he said that when it's wet, you do not want to be hitting
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out of that rough. So if I can get the dryer, windy your
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day, I want my guys at Spyglass and the wetter less windy day,
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I'd rather have my guys over at Pebble Beach. Yeah. Problem solved being
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the ability to go and edit it from here. We got it. It
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was DJN seventy five. You know what it was. It wasn't updated because
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it was just last week after the tournament locked, So nobody's missed out on
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this yet. But if you didn't notice, obviously it was thirty four and
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one ninety nine before we left that on for three weeks so that everybody would
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be known that they could get the lowest price possible. You can still get
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in for the ten percent off with DJEN seventy five. It drops it down
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the three dollars and ninety cents or the twenty three dollars and ninety cents.
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It's around two dollars a dollar and change a day, around four dollars to
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five dollars per event for this one. That solved that. Let's get to
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the pricing for the week the first look. We've got it loaded up here,
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and we're gonna have to have a good week because I am down to
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my last dollar on DraftKings. James has got it up right there. I
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saw you hit forty thousand yesterday. Stop playing, Stop playing. I couldn't
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tell. What it would be better is if we made it look like it
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had a million, or if I put it out a dollar, but either
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way, here is the first look pricing. It just came out about ten
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fifteen minutes ago, right before we hopped on here. So we're gonna break
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it down, and this is the price that our guy at the very top
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scroll all the way back up. Shout out to a Bick said, wait
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for this, eleven five hundred dollars James. All right, well, okay,
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first of all, DraftKings a new general rule, Tamba. I'm done
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shitting on DraftKings. I've actually done some real reflecting on DraftKings. I just
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like, I'm pretty happy with them. I'll go on a tangent probably on
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the stream Wednesday. But first of all, and then putting Rory that high,
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you're doing the lord's work DraftKings. But I have noticed last week the
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pricing was incredible soft. So I was really wanting to see some eleven thousand
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dollar guys this week. And not only do they have eleven thousand dollar guys,
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they've got them up into the mid eleven k's. I love this because
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I mean, like, if you're going to go play Rory or Scheffler,
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that should dramatically impact what that does to the rest of your lineup. So
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I love when they put these guys not only an eleven K, but eleven
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you know, mid eleven k's. Then it really makes people think about what
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they're doing with their lineup instead of just blindly plugging the two best players in
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this field in there. And the fact that there's a twelve hundred dollars drop
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off to Hovelin is laughable, laughable. I think Victor Hoblin on any day
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is better than those two guys. And if I can get a twelve hundred
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dollars discount and possibly an ownership discount, sign my up for old Victor.
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Yeah, ran out of the gates. That's the first thing that's still to
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be Someone said, here too, our guy Ross K. Shout up to
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Ross said, that's one way to do the ten k plus pricing. Yeah,
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you got two guys at ten K and ten two and then hop it
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up to twelve or thirteen hundred bucks more from Hobland to Scheffler and Rory.
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And I know you're always gonna be against Rory hud something like this, Well,
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he does fucking suck. In my defense, he does fucking suck.
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There is right what and someone else brought it up to hobb was the low
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am here when when Woodland won the US Open at this tournament or at this
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course. Story, So what was your Scheffler take though? Quick? I
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know you talked about hobblin there for a second and dropping down, but one
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of the most Scheffler, I mean, one hundred dollars less than Rory.
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I can't imagine that Scheffler's not going to be five to ten points higher own
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than Rory. Right in this PGA world where we don't get to see I
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bet a good half of the people playing this week aren't even aware that Rory
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just won across the pond like two weeks ago. Right, So in this
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world Scheffler, in this PGA community we're in, people are going to say,
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wait, Scheffler's not the most expensive guy. I'm definitely playing him,
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right, and I think that you're gonna get Rory at a discount, which
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sadly enough almost makes me interested in that donkey dick loser. But Scheffler is
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not going to be at a discount. People realize just seeing him as that
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second price guy, regardless that he's eleven four hundred, just that he's not
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the top priced guy will brainwash some people into thinking they have to play him.
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So I think Scheffler will still be well over twenty percent just initial feelings.
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Yeah, eighty guys, I'm not gonna cheat too hard. And that's
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gonna show at the bottom because it does correlated with what we're talking about.
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We'll get to this later, but like Sam Ryder, Lee Hodges, Peter
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Malnatty, JJ Spahn, small he will go into the mid tier of that.
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But I think everyone talking about with the smaller field, the no cut
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everything, they're gonna talk about as the week, you know, as this
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week goes on. Obviously it's the very first look. It could be a
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situation where people say, well, the course is gonna play harder, you're
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gonna want these better guys. They're gonna be the ones to get you the
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position placement points, and you just gotta find ways to make it work.
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The bottom isn't the best names, but it's names that a lot of people
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playing dfs this time of the year will know and probably feel somewhat comfortable.
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And that was the dead stone bottom at six K. There's gonna be guys
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in that lower seven when we get down there. I didn't want to cheat
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too hard just to show the very bottom. But you shouldn't be rusty,
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like James was saying, all if you know this, but he just won
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the Dubai tournament over there was like what the fourth or fifth time that he's
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won it. He's doing just fine, so he should be fine when it
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comes to that. Where do you think it comes in between Xander and Hovelin
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you mentioned I think you nailed it for Rory and Scheffler up top, but
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I gotta think probably Holin still comes in as the guy next most popular,
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right, like more than Xander. Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
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I think Xander's going to be more popular. Xander like did well last
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week, right, and people just really like Xander in California, and Victor
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really hasn't. We haven't seen him much this year, right, I think
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he's kind of like out of sight, out of mind. So I think
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I think I actually would bet right now just first feel I think Xander's going
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to be a little more popular. I think they're both probably going to be
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in that eighteen to twenty two percent range, but I would bet Xander by
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a hair is going to be more popular than Hovelin, just because he's fresh
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in people's mind. No, no peaking. I didn't peak. I told
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you guys the truth. Off the top, I loaded this page, changed
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my balance to one dollar, and then left it up. That's the only
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reason I could even see that Rory was at the top, and I didn't
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see his price. And I'm only checking the bottom because it correlates with the
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top conversation. How we think we see people end up here. Let's go
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to this next range though, Let's go the nine k's. We got your
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boy Iceberg all the way up to Cantle. What are you seeing here in
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this nine k range? Okay, first of all, I think they did
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a really good job only pricing guys in the tin k's that should be in
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the ten k's, right, all of these guys seem appropriate in the nine
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k's. But Iceberg at nine thousand, that seems like a really good deal
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him. The more at Cowa at the very end of this range seem like
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incredibly good deals, right, Like, I just can't believe Speth, Thomas
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and Cantlay are noticeably more expensive than more at Kawa and Iceberg, So I
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imagine that that's going to make more a Kawa and Iceberg a good value,
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which usually means higher ownership. That would be my initial feelings right here.
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Yeah, I've already heard a little bit of Iceberg talk on the old X
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machine. More at Kawa has been playing better until last week he hurt people.
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So people are gonna be helping for Floplag. There it is right here,
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Cawa Floplag, Cawa Floplag. I hope all of that. But you
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know Spee's history here right in Spiece numbers, and he's coming in. Even
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his two showings that we've seen recently are sixth and third, So I do
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wonder if Spiece still picks up the steam here at ninety four hundred. I
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feel like people are kind of done with Cantlay, but he's another guy that's
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done well here for third and eleventh the last few times. And I don't
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care as much about everything change or all that stuff. Like obviously that you
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know the setup is still going to be pretty easy. You would expect pin
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placements at least for the first two days with the amateurs out there, and
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then from there we'll see what happens over the weekend. But at least you're
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getting the full four rounds. But I just can't see people completely overlooking speed
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early on, like the chat seems to be looking for it. He's been
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okay, he has a great history here. I'm not sure what else we
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would do. I'll tell you this about speed. People always ask me who's
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my favorite PGA golfer, and I don't really have an answer, but then
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I usually always end up planning on speed. And I think the reason is
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is because was that just last year on number six he hit the ball almost
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off of the fucking cliff on number six, that par five right and he
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literally went and played it with like a seventy foot drop right there, and
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like plays the ball where if he just like trips, he's literally going to
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plunge to his death. I'm like, this guy, this guy's my dude.
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And I could not believe he hit that shot, and he hit a
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great shot on top of it. Mother father, Yeah, that was actually
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nuts. I think I have it out there somewhere saved because I was always
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like it, went back to look at it, I was like, holy
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shit, this guy is actually insane. People are definitely telling him not to
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hit that shot, just figure it out, and he went for it anyway,
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and you could see and they always have, like the aerial angles and
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stuff like that. Definitely some some crazy stuff. We talked about all the
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magic, magic beans and wizardry that he has, but that was something special
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there. I think, you know, you'll look at it here. This
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one like Speed Morikawa Iceberg, I could see that's when people go. I
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guess people might be done with can't Lay. Not sure how they treat Homa,
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but Home would be a good tournament pivot here if you want to get
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in, you know, between Speed, Kala and Iceberg. He's been playing
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just fine first thirteenth, fourteen, thirteenth, four last outings and then seventh,
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fourteenth and tenth here. I think he could be a good little tournament
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play there if people don't end up going there. If people do, maybe
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you do have to go back to the well and a guy like more Kawa.
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But I definitely see this range being pretty popular. I think people will
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be fine loading two or three guys from in this range and just skipping the
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top if they want to make a little bit better balance slide. That's how
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I can see it as well. There's still a ton of win equity in
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the nine case right, and I would say this the tougher this course gets
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the more I like Homa And if I could just throw one more real,
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sneaky narrative out there, Scheffler and Jordan Speeth are Tina Green gods recently,
19:10
right, and the one thing that really seems to be hampering both of their
19:12
abilities is just miss inexplicably missing three and four foot putts, right, And
19:18
this course, with this poet, there's gonna be a lot of miss three
19:21
and four foot putts. So maybe that helps equalize out what I think is
19:25
their real own only weakness right now, right, So maybe that's maybe that's
19:29
the narrative. I need to get on old spefees and chef this week.
19:32
Yeah, playing both together, you can definitely get away with that. Funny
19:34
enough, you said that the discord man was really struggle with that one.
19:37
I was like, remember when we warned you on Monday last week, you
19:41
definitely talked about it a bunch. It was like you said, your exact
19:44
words were pretty much, You're gonna look at your app see your guy has
19:48
three feet, think that he's just made it. It's a lock, and
19:49
then come back and find out that he made bogie. There was so much
19:53
of that last week, as you expected as we thought would happen, but
19:56
it was just people were really having a tough time coping with that one.
20:00
You have to remember, that's what it's like running on these green Grio had
20:06
three feet on eighteen yesterday or Saturday for a showdown right, and he missed
20:10
the three footer for Birdie on eighteen and I got second and third place in
20:14
the forty four dollars, and I would have got first and second if the
20:15
fucker makes it. Yeah, see it happens, It hurts when it does.
20:19
That's the case. This is just continuing on. I mean, I
20:22
didn't expect to see this full range of names, like just forgetting who's in
20:25
the field, but as you mentioned, it almost seems accurate again where it's
20:29
like I could see these guys are fairly priced in the eight ks versus like
20:33
what you said and the guys in the nine case. So you got Burns
20:36
down to Tom Kim and Benny on down here at eight k ho guards in
20:41
the mix. Masiama day Sung Jay, what are you doing here in this
20:45
eight k range? Early on, first thoughts on this one. Let's see
20:51
here first of all, to like that guy is playing so good? I
20:56
mean, why can he not fix his butter like he should have won that
20:59
tournament by four shots last week. It was incredible, how under control his
21:03
game was, how well he played. That was. I mean that one.
21:06
I'm blown away by Tony fen now and in this range right now,
21:10
I would say he's the one that sticks out the most. I think people
21:12
are actually gonna go to Hedki after that Lightning Sunday round, But I'm more
21:15
interested in guys like Sung Jay and Jason Day with a little flop flag Sung
21:21
Jay Jason Day. I like that. The chats talking about the the intervention
21:26
definitely was something that we've you know, I've gone through in the past.
21:30
James is just gonna leave quickly, guys. He wants to see. He
21:30
thinks there's some some lag there. We were talking floplag. He was talking
21:33
about some lag within his feed. So we'll get him out of the mixture
21:37
right now, and then when he pops back in, I'll bring him back
21:40
in. But just let's see here, let's go good, let's go.
21:45
Am I am I still delayed? I think so? Ah fuck? I
21:52
tried, Yeah, he tried, all right, We're all good. We
21:53
keep it going here. You you brought that up just going back to look
21:56
at some of this other stuff, just trying to see some of the guys
21:59
that pop out here, sung Jay Oft, the Mius cut day Oft,
22:03
the miscout Day's history here incredible across the board. So I'd imagine at eighty
22:07
four hundred people are going to go to him based off of that. He
22:10
is, uh seventh, four to four, second, fifth, eleventh,
22:11
fourth, like this is six of his last seven years here. F now
22:15
starting to show up again. We talked earlier at the top of the season
22:18
how it was like a guy that people used to play all the time and
22:22
then bump them a little bit more. We haven't seen that as much lately,
22:23
but now might warrant that. And then coming off of the sixth place,
22:26
I could see people going to him here Fleetwood, What sweet would been
22:30
up to Fleetwood one overseas, Yeah, that's what it was. I lose,
22:37
That's the real question. Well both Actually, yeah, Roy did lose
22:41
that when I forgot he missed. He three putted from like four feet or
22:45
something that one time. So, uh, if you want to restart,
22:48
you can, man, Yeah, definitely, we got still a couple of
22:49
ranges to go through. I'll keep pulling some stuff up here. If you
22:52
want to log off restart see if we can get rid of that delay,
22:56
that would definitely be awesome. Did he go anyway? Yeah, throw any
23:03
more questions that you guys have into the chat too as well. I'll keep
23:07
going here as we look at it, just to see. But don't think
23:10
very many people will go to Sam Burns. He was someone I was just
23:12
looking up, obviously coming in off the sixth place, but no real crazy
23:15
history here. Almost nine k. You see guys like Iceberg, Mora cow
23:18
Home. I think it's gonna be tougher to get to him. It's probably
23:22
Tony Fenow that stands out here that that people end up going to in that
23:26
spot. Maybe I don't know. I just people don't usually like to play
23:29
as much. Cam Young he did have a good result the last time out
23:32
though, coming in third place there. Fleetwood sung Jay Day seem to be
23:36
the guys that would get the love there a little bit. Let's just see
23:40
turn on obs and start my virtual camera, all right? Can you can
23:45
you even hear me? I can hear you. I just don't. Let's
23:48
see start virtual camera. Am I am? I still delayed? No,
23:52
you're better now you're good. Fuck. Hey, I may have a piece
23:55
of shit computer, but at least it restarts quickly. You gotta you gotta
23:57
celebrate the small victories. Editors over here cussing on my text messages. He
24:02
says, I'm ordering you a new computer today. Well, then do it,
24:03
mother father. Okay, the talk is about Hoguard, right, That
24:08
guy's good. That guy is good, good, good. But I will
24:11
tell you, to the average layman at PGA, you're gonna look at Hoguard
24:15
right there, right, and you're gonna like see those other names. Him
24:18
and Benny Ann are the two names that definitely stand out to me as not
24:22
being elites, Like they're not as elite as all those other guys around him,
24:26
And I think that people kind of start thinking, like, wait a
24:29
second, those guys are stepped down, but I'm paying that premium price.
24:33
Are you? Are you buying that? Like? Do people think like that?
24:34
Because I think they do. I think they do as well, and
24:37
I think that's something that's gonna come into play as obviously some of the other
24:40
stuff, the recency bias factor and whatnot. But the chat said it,
24:42
I would tend to agree people definitely going a good bit of fits. I
24:47
do think that's true. He's for some reason a guy that always seems to
24:49
get the love as well. And at eighty two hundred, where he's less
24:52
than your average price, it's not really as much about some of his recent
24:56
stuff. He's been fine fourteenth fourth and a miscut in is last three misscut
25:00
last year year in the year before that was six. But I do think
25:03
at his price tag, it's what matters more and what helps him or what
25:07
pushes ownership heer helps people get to him, is that he's eighty two hundred.
25:10
So I could see in this range it looks like FENW Fleetwood, M.
25:14
Fitzpatrick, and then maybe some of the other guys mixed in around them,
25:17
but that would be the guys that stood out to me early on.
25:19
Do you think the nine K or the eight K range goes more overlooked just
25:22
from where we stand right now. Almost almost certainly the eight K, because
25:27
you got great players in both ranges. But I look a lot at ownership
25:32
and just how people enjoy building eight k's more than any other range get neglected
25:37
a relative to ownership. Right Like when I'm tracking that chalk every week,
25:41
it almost always consists of a ten K one or two nine ks and one
25:45
or two seven k's. The eight K range, for whatever reason, notoriously
25:48
gets skipped over. So I think it will the nine case. Just based
25:52
on history and the fact that both ranges both look very appetizing, I think
25:55
it will be the eight case. They get skipped over more than the nine
25:57
k's. Yeah, and even when people are taking they're stud up top,
26:00
they're probably taking a nine K with it, yep. Or if they're skipping
26:03
it, they're going multiples. So maybe the answer is, like you say,
26:06
if you find somebody up top that you like ten k and above,
26:08
pop in a couple of these eight K guys here or more. I could
26:11
definitely see getting away with that. These are all talented, talented enough guys
26:15
in a field like this, and if it plays harder over the weekend,
26:18
whatever that might be where you could see some of these guys grind their way
26:22
through the fleetwoods, the Fitzpatrick's, the chats already asking about it. We're
26:25
gonna get another EuroFest. I'm sure you saw it last week when all the
26:29
Euros at at one point were up at the top of the board. Could
26:30
you see that happening again? I mean, I will tell you I'm actually
26:34
feeling more of a Asian fest this week, right Like I'm just like Tom
26:38
Kim just strikes me as a guy, like this just seems like a perfect
26:41
course for him, right Like, this is the Tom Kim type jam And
26:44
I think at eight thousand dollars, I think he's gonna be like sneaky low
26:47
owned. I think, Benny and this is a great course someday, this
26:48
is a great course. Hell he DECKI the way he's playing. Maybe we
26:52
look up there heading into Round four this week and it's all Asian players,
26:56
right like, all Japanese and South Koreans up there. So I actually think
27:00
that I'm filling the agents more than the Euros. And the other thing I
27:03
would say is like, do you realize how good of your lineups are gonna
27:06
look this week? I mean, like you can literally get like five incredible
27:08
golfers in your lineup with like one punt, and your punt's still probably gonna
27:12
be somebody who's not even that gross, like you know, whoever Grioh or
27:17
d Tree or somebody like that. Right, Lukedaman listaman, even looking here
27:21
like this tells everything we're about to get into this will segue into it.
27:23
But like Thigala, you got Keegan Bradley, Corey Connors, Brian Herman,
27:27
Chris Kirk who already won the start the season. You've got Justin Rose,
27:30
guys at the Hobbit. People love playing these guys and when this can be
27:33
your fifth or sixth guy into your lineup, there's a lot of different ways
27:37
you can go here. So yeah, talk to me about this upper seven
27:41
K range. It looks a little bit smaller. Everything on the screen is
27:42
what you see is the seventy five hundred to seven point nine K range,
27:47
But a lot of guys that people like playing in this range. To give
27:49
me your first thoughts, JT posen going to be popular, right, I
27:52
think if the conditions get tough. I don't usually love JT in tough conditions,
27:56
but man, if it's solid conditions, it's seventy nine hundred, he's
27:59
under price, Like we need to start putting some respect on that man's name.
28:03
Russell Henley is going to be popular, and I think that The Hobbit
28:06
and Jenny McCarthy are going to be popular. People love to play those guys
28:08
on shorter courses, and both of these courses this week are notoriously short,
28:11
so I think you're gonna see those guys be popular. I think people are
28:15
pissed off at Keegan, so you're gonna get him at a discount. I
28:17
feel like dumpy Bo, I love me some. Dumpy Bo did me great
28:19
last week, but like I feel like seventy eight hundred in this field is
28:22
just a bit steep for him. He's like a seventy two hundred dollars guy,
28:26
right, Yeah, third and eleventh here the last two years. The
28:29
chat does bring up some good points here posting like you just said, coming
28:33
in off fifth, sixth, and eleventh. He's been playing incredible golf.
28:36
So at seventy nine hundred, people always like to play the Gala. Maybe
28:40
not this week, we'll see because the course fit probably not the best,
28:42
but we'll have to wait and see there. But justin Rose seventy five hundred
28:47
after winning here last year, that's another thought that you can just see right
28:51
away that someone brought up. He hasn't been playing the best lately, but
28:53
still something to think about. People like betting Scott already this week. I've
28:57
seen a couple of different people bet Scott, so h Conners always gets the
29:02
love this this does look like it just is another point I guess, James,
29:06
to go back to what we'd already talked about, where that eight K
29:07
range just has to go overlooked in a majority of ways, because we talked
29:11
about already how people build up top the triple nine k's or the double nine
29:15
k's or the stud with a nine K or whatever that ends up looking like.
29:18
And then you get to land in here and I haven't even seen what's
29:22
underneath this yet, but this range here alone, you could fit two or
29:25
three of these guys and feel pretty comfortable with your build where you're ending on
29:29
one of these as your last guy's in. So anything else you want to
29:30
add in this upper seven K range if not all full up the bottom.
29:33
Yeah, I mean, it's not that people are going to overlook the eight
29:37
k simply because they don't like the eight k's. It's gonna they're gonna they're
29:41
gonna skip over the eight k's because it's that range is gonna get squeezed because
29:44
they're going to like the nine k's and the upper seven k's more. Right,
29:47
So you got to remember that ownership isn't always a game where it's just
29:51
who do we like and who do we don't like. It's often how building
29:52
people are building their lineups and constructing their rosters. And if the nine k's
29:56
are gonna be popular, in the upper seven k's are gonna be popular simply
29:59
because there are a better value. That just means by definition, somewhere has
30:03
to get squeezed, and it's going to be the eight k range. Yeah,
30:04
a lot of the winners been coming from the seven k ranger. Worse
30:07
two the chat said, I agree this one too big. Drig shut out
30:11
to you says, remember with the course history, that the course salt history,
30:15
that there are better players here than in years past. That's definitely part
30:19
of it as well. Some of the guys that came through and have a
30:22
really good course history. Here we're playing the years when others would not show
30:25
up to this event. And that's why if you go up at the top
30:27
and look of like a Scottie nothing, Poblin twice Xander once, Rory once
30:33
you know, skip it down from there, moricaw and none jt one way
30:37
back in the day twenty fourteen, Iceberg obviously nothing, cam Young, nothing
30:41
like you look at all that these guys are showing up. Any of those
30:44
guys could get to this place and get after it. So yeah, I
30:45
definitely want to highlight that point as well. Anything to add there, if
30:49
not take us into this lower seven k range you got. Last week's winner
30:53
is the lowest price showing on the screen. We've obviously got guys just below
30:56
him, Matthew Pavent, but Ricky Fowl or Wyndham Clark, see woo,
31:02
just about eric Cole? There it is there, It is that will I
31:06
mean, first of all, please, you know, eight pound six ounce
31:08
of baby Jesus. Let eric Cole not be popular this week, right he
31:11
missed that. Okay, that was a terrible spot for him last week,
31:15
and he still had ownership because he's been playing so good. I am telling
31:17
you eric Cole will be a top ten golfer by the end of this year.
31:19
At some point. He is legit the fact that he is seventy three
31:22
hundred. Please let people overlook him. This is a course that is designed
31:26
for him. Eric Cole is better than all of these golfers down here.
31:30
I hope that people are mad at him from last week, and I will
31:33
go play all the eric Cole plus he's out in California, and you gotta
31:37
love a guy with the last name Cole in California. You gotta love it
31:41
just to piss him off California. Maybe he does show up, but I
31:45
will say this, I do think people will go back just because the price
31:48
that was like one of the first ones, you know, you see come
31:52
out in the you know, seventy three hundred bucks. You're looking at it
31:53
like, Okay, how is he priced there? So I don't know,
31:56
he should be eighty one hundred in this field, he should be an That's
32:00
what I'm saying. It's like the first one I've seen now already where it's
32:02
like you think about it and you're like, Okay, that seems a bit
32:06
off some of the other ones, like okay, rose one here last year,
32:08
totally different field strength, event, all those things, the points that
32:12
we brought up, JT post and yes, playing better golf, he's maybe
32:15
should be priced at eighty five or eighty four, but seventy nine is not,
32:17
you know, crazy, But seventy three seems really light on Eric Cole.
32:22
But again, look at the guys who got around him too, had
32:23
with Steven Yeager almost getting the job done last week, Kevin Hugh's been playing
32:28
better golf. Nick Taylor, former winner here right, was that three or
32:31
four years ago? Now that he won here norin I saw a lot of
32:35
people betting him at one hundred to one. So again this range you could
32:38
just really round out here. Some of the guys to round out the sevens
32:42
were Straka, Todd and Evr. My guy, Rinn Shepherd is out there
32:47
somewhere still to yelling at me to play more. Evr. But anybody else
32:51
there that you wanted to talk about. You mentioned Cole, but there's a
32:52
lot of guys in that lower seven kre range. Look, I I'm just
32:55
gonna keep going back to this because the way the weather is is going to
32:59
dictate the kind of player that I'm interested in right right now based on this
33:01
early weather. If that, if that's how it's going to play out,
33:05
it's gonna be windy and wet. It makes me like different kinds of golfers,
33:07
right. I want to play guys who can, like you know,
33:10
grind their dicks off for me, and that's gonna be guys like Matthew Levughan,
33:14
although I will agree there's a terrible spot for him. That is a
33:16
guy like Harris English that is a guy like Stepstroker, right. Those guys
33:20
can really grind for you, Whereas like Nick Taylor is a dude that just
33:22
gets roasty roasty hot and can go ruu low right, But he also has
33:27
like a he also gets a lot of what I call boge streaks, right,
33:30
So you got to watch out for that. So when if the conditions
33:32
get tougher, I'm going to favor certain types of guys that I have in
33:35
my head that I like for those conditions. And if the conditions are easier,
33:37
then yes, I would love a Nick Taylor here. But if the
33:39
winning score is going to be minus ten, I ain't touching Nick Taylor.
33:44
The Jets starting to catch on. They know it, man, they know
33:46
all about it. Show what's the never? Oh EVR? I see?
33:52
I did not get it? Well never without EVR. That's how you know.
33:54
That's when you play him. Never but it except when we do,
33:58
which is usually in Showdown. You know it? So uh only ever in
34:02
Showdown on shutouts say there you go. Go, Clegg gets it him and
34:06
he go. If you don't have them on your like auto showdown roster,
34:09
especially at Bertie Fest, just tell me you hate money. Just tell me
34:12
you hate money? Yeah, oh I agree? What about two quick takes
34:15
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34:24
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34:27
So keep growing the channel. We're up to almost five point five k.
34:30
Once we get to six k, we're gonna have another big giveaway.
34:32
But two quick takes. Did did met you pavel pound down the grass and
34:37
cheat on that shot at the end? Did you see the video on that?
34:40
I didn't, But I'm just gonna assume he's French. They're always a
34:43
little shady. They are always a little shady. Never trust the Frenchman.
34:46
So the video is like him apparently, like they say, he stopped the
34:50
grass down to try and get some back spin for that shot that he needed
34:52
on the last. And then someone analyzed it was like, well, if
34:55
you look, his eyes actually go and they put like laser eyes on him,
34:59
like the actually up there, So maybe he tried to but it didn't
35:02
work out. It's like said then people like but he's still a cheater because
35:06
he was thinking about it and he was doing it. It's like that Patrick
35:07
Reid and I like, oh, they just keep going on about it.
35:09
So there was that, and then uh, what about Hatton's move to live
35:15
You're gonna miss this guy? Or what? I love Trel Hatton? Like
35:17
I love him. I was like when Wyndham Clark was gonna leave, I
35:20
was like, who gives a shit? But because like he's so boring.
35:22
I mean, I know he's a cowboy and all, but he's boring his
35:24
shit. And Hatton he's fun. That guy's fun. I enjoy having him
35:28
for Showdown. I enjoy having him in Fields. I just faded him a
35:30
week long and playhim at Showdown, and I tend to do very well with
35:32
him. Ross is so mad clean his contact out of that rough anyone had
35:37
all week. Yeah, it was a great shot. It did take stones,
35:40
definitely incredible stuff. But uh yeah Hatton, it said today, I
35:44
just saw the thing. It was like, it's apparently it's between fifty and
35:46
sixty million. He's made twenty eight million in his whole career so far,
35:50
so it's really toping. And he'll be and he'll be back in two years,
35:52
so it won't even matter. Like they're all gonna be playing together again
35:54
in two years and none of this shit's gonna matter. They're just getting their
35:57
bag right now, yeah, taking it while they can't exactly And apparently the
36:00
Anthony Kim rumor got brought back again. They're saying now that they're looking now
36:05
maybe he heard about it. It was like, oh shit, maybe that
36:07
is a good idea. If I can get in there just as a single
36:09
and play and see how that looks. So isn't the story. Isn't the
36:13
story that he got like a huge insurance settlement right and he couldn't play professional
36:15
golf again? That's the But the original rumor, which probably now he flipped
36:20
it and was like just thinking about it. Maybe it was just a dumb
36:22
rumor that turned into a true idea is like they say that Live is just
36:24
going to cover the cost. It was like a ten million dollar insurance policy.
36:29
What's that to them? Ten million bucks or twenty Who gives a shit?
36:31
Right? You know? That might be the only thing that makes people
36:35
actually watch it. If John Ram won't make people watch it, then maybe
36:37
this will. Anthony Kim I would be tuning in for that. I'm gonna
36:40
watch some of it anyway, I don't mind. I like these guys and
36:43
I like golf, so I watch it. Kim Kim would move the needle
36:45
more than John Ram like that. I know that sounds ridiculous, but that's
36:50
true. Like it's just a fact. Anthony Kim, outside of Tiger Woods,
36:52
I think, probably even more than Phil Mickelson, probably has gotten people
36:57
more excited about golf than anybody in the past twenty years, other than Tiger
37:00
Woods, of course. Yeah, and this doesn't matter. Like if I
37:02
have one hundred dollars and someone gives me two hundred, I'm still up.
37:07
So that's a trade worth making. If he's twenty million, he leaves for
37:09
forty million, that's still twenty million up. So I mean, that's how
37:13
this is. You know, he still lives right here in the metro where
37:15
I live, and there's always rumors every time he's out at the golf range,
37:19
Like he'll be out there at the range and people be like, we
37:21
saw Anthony Kim down at the range today because he went to school here at
37:23
ou which is right here in the metro at Oklahoma City. Yeah, and
37:27
I heard too like again, don't know how far these rumors go. It's
37:29
off topic for this. We'll keep it going to the six k range.
37:30
But you know the people talk about him shooting like super low score still and
37:35
still be another. I know the swing videos are old, like the ones
37:37
that people were drooling over. That was an old video. But just talk
37:40
so you said on some locals and people watching stuff down there and seeing it,
37:44
a lot of people say that he still you know, still a stick,
37:45
still plays good golf. You'd have to wait and see what happens,
37:47
but you know interestingly enough to see how this goes down. Here is the
37:52
upper six k range, and man, you can make every like you said,
37:57
it's it's like week one in the NFL, or it's like the Masters
38:00
or any of the majors. The pricing is set up that every lineup is
38:04
gonna look good. You've got Nick Dunlap sixty nine hundred, but even outside
38:07
him, you want to play Bez Rogers, Taylor, Montgomery, Grio,
38:12
Shank d Tree, Kiddy, Yama Spence and just all the names that people
38:15
know and love down here in this upper six k range. So you don't
38:19
have to I mean, besides the names you like here and talk about that
38:22
a little, but also roster construction. How you see this shaken out now
38:24
that you know you can get guys like this in your lineup at six K,
38:28
mid six K, upper six K range. Yeah, people are gonna
38:30
feel pretty good putting Bez as the last guy in their lineup, putting Putnam
38:35
as the last guy in their lineup, guys like that, right, But
38:37
just looking here, I already see some just slime ball guys that I'm gonna
38:40
be very interested in, right, like Kurt Kitty Yama. If a course
38:44
is going to play tough, I love them. Right, he'll either be
38:45
plus six through six and you can just give up on all those lineups or
38:50
he'll be like minus two through six and you'd be like, oh wow,
38:52
this guy's gonna play for me. So I think there's some really interesting guys
38:54
here. Grio played like shit on Sunday, but like I'm telling you,
38:59
Grio is playing the golf of his career. And when I think about a
39:01
guy that'll grind for you because he doesn't make as many birdies as he should,
39:05
but man, that guy makes a lot of pars, especially on the
39:07
final hole when you need a birdie. Adams Fencon bounce back. He let
39:13
down a lot of people last week, just horrendous donkey chuck that people played.
39:16
There's like some dudes here, even luky gloves at sixty five hundred like
39:21
this upper six k range. I've got some grinders here that I think will
39:23
all certainly be under five percent, which sounds high, but it's really not
39:28
because it's an eighty am field, So everybody's inherently going to have more ownership
39:31
than they normally do in a full filled event. Right, Yeah, I
39:35
think this one was good too. Back to my guy Rinn, he was
39:37
here talking with evr. He says, no, Cot makes Cam Davis more
39:39
attractive. Always it's the worst, but you got to know you got to
39:43
go through that. But there's Playmate showdown, just playman showdown. Your life
39:45
will be so much better because he's gonna have one new ground and three asshole
39:49
rounds. That's Cam Davis this week. We might be able to get two
39:52
good ones out of him. But sixty optimism optim I do like some of
39:54
the calls you had, though, Like I would like team ont here,
39:58
I like Grio, I like Kidiyama. I did not say team on that
40:02
guy's a loser piece of shit. Yeah, but I'd be fine playing and
40:06
me sixty eight hundred. Like again, I'm just looking. I think one
40:07
of the things too, that I'm gonna take away. I said this at
40:10
the start of the season on the Fantasy Golf Degenerate season preview, and it
40:14
worked more times than not last season. It does make me worry. I
40:16
know that this a better course set up, and maybe especially we'll say ownership
40:20
goes with like Eric Cole, who you brought up early. I definitely think
40:22
he's better than people think. I get all that, but last year I
40:25
noticed when like once someone's run was up, it sometimes took like five six
40:30
weeks or longer for them to come back around, versus just playing the guys
40:35
that are coming through in the clutch recently and sticking with them. And then
40:37
you extrapolate on that and say, okay, but now we're at an event
40:40
where everyone's gonna be looking at course history and they're pulling up the last time
40:45
during the COVID year when it was like that and comparing all this shit that
40:47
has barely any sample to worry about, and the focus on what our guy
40:52
brought up earlier. Big Drigs about the strength of field is changing. It's
40:57
a different setup here than what you might have seen in the past. I
40:59
would tend to recent form anyway, but especially don't mind it coming into an
41:02
event like this. So I do like some of those calls there. Somebody
41:07
mention our our hero over here was Hubbard. Hubbard in the showdown streets.
41:12
I don't know if I can go back to him, but he's sixty three
41:15
hundred, so I guess hashtag sleeper on the stone, hashtag round four,
41:17
sleeper on the stone, You're welcome, You're welcome, three and four.
41:21
I liked him too. I thought he was a good play. That guy
41:22
just can make birdies. But I feel like he is more of a showdown
41:25
play. Mackenzie Hughes has been known in the past to grind out some of
41:29
these tougher courses. What's he done here? Anything? Let me look,
41:32
I don't even know McKenzie Hughes. Sixty four hundred. I've got him with
41:36
a T sixteen last time he played here and then two misscuts before that?
41:38
Okay, yeah, so what's he coming in off of? Sixty fourth?
41:42
Wasn't the greatest, but before that plan okay, anybody else anybody else,
41:45
who else could be down here smally people like that. Have a serious question
41:49
for you, Tambo, do you have a Canadian bias? Because I'm an
41:52
American and I find I have a huge Canadian bias. I love Canadian golfers
41:55
outside of Corey Connors, I don't usually I don't think I do, like
42:00
if I really thought about it, I can't think of it anyway. But
42:04
people always say this about me anyway, is that I'm more I'm like a
42:07
Canadian in an American's body. I'm always hanging out with Americans. I'm always
42:09
I don't like hockey, I make fun of other stuff like It's just different
42:14
in that sense. So for me, I don't think I have any bias
42:16
towards playing Canadian golfers, that's for sure. Hoop, my boy, Hoop
42:21
loves good Canadian boys. He likes Hadwin and Nick Taylor and Ken Hughes and
42:25
all this stuff. I can't get behind it all the time, but I'll
42:29
keep him in mind when I'm checking out situational stuff like this, wherever it
42:31
does play a little bit harder, I feel like I would like McKenzie Hughes
42:35
more for something like that, and he started stronger last week than he finished.
42:38
I do know that it just didn't work out in the end. But
42:40
sixteenth here last time he played it two years ago? How about that?
42:44
How the hell is web Simpson in this field? Like I thought there was
42:46
like some qualification. What the hell is web Simpson done to get into this
42:49
field? I don't know. I forget someone was bringing up earlier though,
42:53
someone brought up about like Web versus what was it? Who's the two Gary
43:00
Woodland or Burger? Like why didn't those guys get in when Burger's won here
43:02
before and Woodland won the the Major here and all this stuff and they're coming
43:08
back? How come they didn't get into this event by a guy like web
43:12
Simpson did? That was the topic of conversation. Yeah, I don't get
43:15
it. I'm not really good at understanding understanding like sponsor invites and all that
43:21
shit. I'm sure a lot of it's political, yeah, pro am stuff
43:24
maybe, like I said, And then also, yeah, it wasn't sponsorship.
43:27
That's say they were saying, why would he get it over like a
43:30
Burger or a Woodland? Who are coming backack Maverick McNeely, Like what I
43:34
think it was Pat who pointed out, like his dad probably just you know,
43:37
like paid paid to get him in there. Yeah, that could be
43:39
it. He has like the medical exemptions and stuff too, But I think
43:43
he already beat it after last week. What did he end up finishing last
43:45
last week? I thought he needed like a top ten see game log.
43:49
He got thirty seventh. Oh maybe that's what it was. He was in
43:52
line for it, But he's gonna get it suited later. He has so
43:54
many of these medical exemptions that's like it's only going to take a couple finishes
43:58
for him to be in the mix. And he's get than these events and
44:00
stuff. Anybody. He's not rolling in twenty five foot putts. He's pretty
44:02
pretty pedestrian. Didn't he lose two Burger the year we just talked about,
44:07
didn't didn't wasn't it Burger that beat him? Yes? You people that remember
44:12
this shit? It blows my mind. I don't get it. As soon
44:15
as the tournament's over, I fucking forget it. Like there's no chance I
44:19
remembering who finished first and second in the tournament last year. Yeah, it's
44:22
when Burger used to do, like, uh, you know, when Burger
44:24
was really good. It would be he would get it to like four feet
44:27
never miss, and you're like, Okay, this is just a you can
44:29
automatic for him. And I think that's what ended up happening at this tournament.
44:31
Just kept peppering it ended up getting the job. Didne I think it
44:35
was McNeely. Who he else did there in the end? Anybody else down
44:37
here at the bottom. You want to talk about coach Er, Smally Shkim,
44:42
any of these guys, Smally spawn and Shkim as punts, Like once
44:46
again, I'm just buying this narrative that is going to be tough this week.
44:49
It's Smally, Spawned and Shkim are three guys that I always think of
44:52
as dudes that when it gets tough, I like their games a lot more,
44:55
right, Whereas the dude like Writer and Riley and dudes like Simpson,
45:00
I Am not trying to get them a grinder fest. Right. So I'm
45:02
just gonna be really checking that weather Wednesday on the stream at seven o'clock.
45:06
You know that I'll spend way too long jerking off the weather, and I'll
45:09
become an atcher with how I think the weather's going to play out, how
45:13
I think it's gonna affect the score. And most importantly, how that's going
45:15
to impact my player pool. Yeah, Hoop likes Tambo too, they said.
45:21
And then you know what it might be. I think I'm figuring it
45:22
out now because I have a sung Jay bias and hang out with Kenny all
45:25
the time. You're talking about liking Canadians hanging out with me, Hoop likes
45:29
Canadians hanging out with me. I usually like the the South Korean golfers and
45:34
stuff, hanging out with Kenny. So maybe that's what it could be.
45:37
But you just you go with whoever it is you're you're spend the most time
45:39
with. But I don't have anything else. Was there some questions? Let's
45:44
go back through to the top. If you guys have more questions, throw
45:45
them in. I'm gonna do the old time I can I hit something real
45:47
quick before you get to those questions. Yeah, So like it just cause
45:52
it's it's relevant to what we're talking about the contest this week. I told
45:54
you earlier I'm done shitting on draftings. Like they're just putting out really good
45:58
contest. Don't forget it's still January, right and we have some great contests.
46:01
I think they could make the pitch and put a little bit bigger the
46:04
big main lottery. But like, other than that, I'm just really happy
46:07
with almost all the contests they're putting out there. The big five dollars if
46:09
you want to do it mm me is great. The two hundred dollars single
46:13
entry is great. They bumped up our two fifty four max for our higher
46:15
level players to one hundred thousand. I love that. I love that eight
46:17
eighty eight three max. That's fun right there, right There's just some really
46:21
good contests. They have my ten dollars eighteen max. It's like, there's
46:24
just so many good contests I want to play in this week, and they're
46:27
steadily growing them. I wish they were growing more aggressively, but I also
46:30
understand they don't want to risk overlays. But like, generally speaking, the
46:32
payout structure in these contests are getting better, the diversity of the types of
46:37
contests are getting better, and like it honestly just makes me more excited to
46:42
play week long because the contests are so good. Yeah, I've been fine.
46:45
Even last week the showdown of contests were awesome. I thought, so
46:47
I'll take it. Well, We'll continue to get that stuff and love it.
46:51
Let's uh, let's go here. A couple questions around the same stuff.
46:53
Shout up to illkne Fan, but a big shot out to my guy
46:57
Jay Steele. You know Jay Steele as well. Gotta huge win yesterday one
47:00
the mini Maax I saw about dollars, so love to see that. He's
47:04
flying the flag for DJN seventy five for the showdown holdown. He says,
47:07
how does your process change for no cut events? Do you loosen your player
47:12
pool more? And then a stack on question was do you tend to take
47:15
bigger chances on extra slimy sleepers. I'll let you take this one. First
47:19
of all, j still go post that in the NFL screen shots for the
47:22
editors collage, I did not remember seniors in there. I saw yours actually
47:23
when Tambo posted all of the winnings. So as far as this week goes
47:28
on a no cut event, yes, I am always in favor of building
47:30
slimier lineups. Right, I will tell you I think my process tip this
47:35
week, editor, go ahead and write this down is at no cut events,
47:38
chalk does get there more often. Right to fade all the chalk this
47:40
week is a fool's air because at no cut events, chalk gets there more
47:45
simply because of this. What is chock chalk is typically good players who are
47:47
in good form playing a course that fits them well, right, And whenever
47:51
you're guaranteed seventy two holes, that is just going to allow the chalk to
47:53
get there more than that is in a cut event where they can just dick
47:59
off for one round us the cut right. So I will tell you that
48:01
chalk will get there more this week, and if you're fading all chalk,
48:04
you're being a donkey. But on the flip side of that, I think
48:07
you can play some of that chalk and then really make one or two nice
48:09
sleeper slash pivots down low, make a slimy lineup even though it has some
48:14
chalk in it, and you can really be different than the field. That
48:16
is what I would encourage people to do. Any extra thoughts on this because
48:20
obviously you being very favorite heavily towards the show. Now you do talk because
48:22
the contest selection this week, which you'll go over more on the Wednesdays stream.
48:25
I'm sure, bro you're breaking down weather and all that stuff, but
48:29
anything you can find an angle from an edge from showdown perspective, yeah,
48:31
I mean, right now, if all things are equal, we're gonna want
48:35
our guys on Pebble Beach. It plays anywhere from about a half a stroke
48:38
to a stroke and a half easier than Spyglass over the past several years.
48:42
Right, However, I do think that with this potential weather, not only
48:45
the wind but the rain, I think that this could be there could be
48:47
some sneaky chances to maybe play a Spyglass Hill showdown stack and be have guys
48:53
just an incredible leverage. And if both courses are playing even, you know,
48:57
like as far as difficulty goes, and you've got all your you're guys
49:00
at three percent ownership and everybody else has their guys at forty percent ownership,
49:04
you were going to have the world open to smash him. GPPs Ricardo maybe
49:07
played it, said, Spyglass, We're off was super thick last week.
49:12
Wet and heavy makes this place even harder. So keep that in mind.
49:15
Anything with the front nine, back nine for showdowns, anything that you know
49:19
about that, I didn't look that up yet. R I'll worry about that
49:22
shit Wednesday. All right, it's Monday. I'm just getting the juices flowing.
49:25
Don't get me down in the ichy details yet, Kevin, you two
49:29
good events. I didn't really want to chase it, but he definitely got
49:31
the job done. So good for him. But you know, seventy six
49:35
hundred, the hobbit is crazy people talking without that speak. We talked about
49:38
that one already. Contests looked much better, just went over that. Are
49:43
people tired of watching speed Chef Chef? But though maybe both of them Speed
49:46
and Chef possibly possibly Nick definitely possibility here. What else do we got now?
49:53
Be now with a great ball striking week, could not put Can he
49:57
find his putting stroke this week? It's definitely possible. Yeah, that's another
50:00
thing. Tom kimwek you mentioned that right, you talked about Tom kimbian there
50:05
at eight k to delay again, that's what it is. I was gonna
50:12
say that was the most delayed I've ever seen yet, I'm just trying to
50:14
see it. Anything else, anything else? Wait, I see Travis calling
50:17
me out about knowing the American presidents. Travis, not only do I could
50:21
I name them all? I could name them all in reverse chronological order.
50:23
You don't want to mess with a big guy when it comes to American history.
50:27
Yeah, I forgot about that too. It's not in the field.
50:32
I don't think is were you in this field? I didn't see him,
50:38
it's delay, Yeah, I didn't see him. I didn't see him.
50:42
Wyndham Clark, Adam Scott going to go forgotten in that range except people bet
50:45
Adam Scott for sure. So I definitely saw that Cole was number one in
50:53
Mayo's model on his research show. Yeah, he's always gonna pop them off.
50:57
As I said at seventy three hundred, here we go, Cole's gonna
50:59
be donkey chock, sadly, sadly. I think that's right. Sadly it
51:04
already. Yeah, we know it already. Someone likes Sam sam Ryder.
51:08
Last guy in and this is always the funny one to me. This is
51:12
why I always get made fun of for it. But this man is playing
51:15
the best golf of his career. Give me all the EVR and then I
51:21
go look it up here and what is it. It's a fifty second,
51:24
twenty fifth, thirty second and twenty second. But he won three months ago,
51:29
so it's the best of his career. But that guy also has a
51:30
Chewbacca dog in his picture, so we're gonna give him the benefit of the
51:34
doubt. It's my guy. He's always there. We always talk to him.
51:37
Let's see U scam Davis. We got called out on here's one for
51:40
you. Is it dumb to only play ten entries in a twenty max?
51:44
I know you've touched on this a few times before, But if not,
51:46
how many players do you suggest in my pool? So talk to us about
51:50
less entries than the max, and then if you have a smaller I always
51:54
say, if you play lighter, play tighter, But I'll let you elaborate.
51:58
So when it comes to this, I think that you should try to
52:00
max a twenty max when you play it. Right. If you're gonna play
52:02
less than the ones, I think that that's more of a lottery play.
52:06
Right. If you're gonna just play ten or whatever lineups and you're gonna be
52:08
less than the field, then the number it allows, then just go play
52:12
in the lottery. Right. I think if you're gonna play a twenty max,
52:15
get twenty lineups in there. Plus, I think twenty is the perfect
52:16
number for really balancing your playerpool, right. I think you want to be
52:20
in between about fourteen to sixteen players in that player pool. And I think
52:23
you also want to have a rule that says that I am going to have
52:27
every guy in my player pool in at least either three or four of those
52:30
twenty lineups. So then you have fifteen to twenty percent exposure to every person
52:34
in your player pool. So if that random ass sleeper that you had in
52:37
your player pool goes off, you don't just have them in one or two
52:38
bullets. You now have them in three or four bullets, and gives yourself
52:40
multiple times. So I would encourage you to try to find a way to
52:44
get up to that twenty max. Maybe instead of playing in the three dollars
52:45
twenty max, you go play in the one dollar twenty max and then you
52:49
can get your twenty lineups in there. Work on your exposure, work on
52:52
making sure that every player in your playerpool is getting into the allotted number of
52:55
lineups that you want them, and that is how you can really get it.
52:59
And once again I agree with Tambo. When you're playing lighter, play
53:01
tighter, keep that pull to fourteen to sixteen players on a twenty max.
53:06
Yeah, I always like that. I think that's part of it. Is
53:07
again like that way you have a chance, you know, someone getting with
53:10
twenty lineups in or ten lineups in their twenty it's fine whatever, But if
53:14
you, oh, I had one lineup with Jake Knapp and and it just
53:16
didn't do good. Yeah, but you only put them in one lineup,
53:19
so when you get that T three out of them, it's not really gonna
53:22
be able to pay off. It makes it a lot tougher. So I
53:23
always wanna make sure you've got a little bit of action of all these guys.
53:27
Do you feel, with all this value in the field, that stars
53:30
and scrubs will be more popular in a ballance? We talked about that right
53:32
like that eight It's not because you know, people don't like the golfers in
53:36
that eight K range. It's more of just the product of how the rest
53:38
of your lineup construction sets up. I definitely think it'll be more stars and
53:43
scrubs. Even when people are avoiding the very top and saying they're good,
53:45
Oh, i'm gonna get sneaky, I'm not gonna play anyone from xandering up,
53:50
I'm gonna drop down to that nine K range. You're still very likely
53:52
to see them skipping the eight K range at least. So hey, that's
53:55
my weather guy. That's deep fat right there. Is focusing on Texas win
53:59
players viable. I actually have a thought on that. And my answer to
54:01
this, and I'm sure Deep Fat probably knows this better than me, is
54:05
coastal winds are different than Texas winds. Right, Texas Oklahoma wins. I
54:08
live in that area can confirm they are consistent and they blow a lot right,
54:13
Whereas coming off of the coast you tend to have a little bit more
54:15
gusty winds coming on off the ocean. I think it's probably moved by the
54:19
fucking water. I don't know, but I do know that it's gustier there,
54:22
whereas we have more consistent wind here when the wind blows. Yeah,
54:25
you talked a little bit about the greens already, right from last week to
54:30
this week, going back and forth, are you putting more emphasis on scrambling
54:32
with the smaller poe of greens. No, I because I think that they're
54:37
gonna there's gonna be so many short shots in there. I don't think that
54:39
they're gonna be doing a ton of scrambling because the greens and regulation rates actually
54:44
pretty decent here. I will look at around the greens because if it's gonna
54:46
get tough, there is gonna be miss greens. But once again, this
54:49
comes down to how is this course going to play. If I see that
54:52
winds going to hold up, I am going to bump around the greens up
54:53
a lot. I am gonna bump scrambling up a lot because they're gonna be
54:57
scrambling their balls off. But if it's gonna be light conditions, the greens
55:00
and regulation percentage'll probably be well over seventy percent. Yeah, I do like
55:05
that, And then I guess we'll take this as the last one. Will
55:07
we see the big guy on the party hole next weekend For those of you
55:12
that don't know, we will be at the Waste Management Phoenix open the DJN
55:15
seventy five dot com crew mixed with the ship at Nation dot com crew.
55:19
We're gonna link up there, join it, go down. You've got the
55:21
full itinerary. You'll have it on your stream on Wednesday. But if you
55:23
guys want to hit me up on x at Totag and Tambo or hit up
55:27
at the Degenerate at seventy five, you guys can do so. We'll get
55:30
you that itinerary. But what do we say so Friday afternoon at the course
55:35
Friday night at the Popstroke in Glendale Saturday at the course, Saturday night at
55:40
the Talking Stick Resort Casino. We're gonna be at the casino there Sunday.
55:45
We've got the watch party is locked in now, definitely gotta hit us up
55:47
if you guys won in on that. It's gonna be at the Fairmont Scottsdale
55:52
Princess and it's one hundred and fifty bucks ahead, but it gets you in
55:55
for a bracelet. There's a server, there's a buffet and drinks, you
56:00
name it, all that stuff. We've got some private tables there called the
56:04
Princess. It's called the Princess, and it's called the Print. Okay,
56:07
I didn't know that Nickel fit right in there. Oh okay, Uh yeah,
56:13
the the well. I'd be partying on that big hole next weekend.
56:15
I mean honestly, probably not. I hear it's like you gotta wait in
56:19
line four or five hours to get in there. No thanks, I'd rather
56:22
be kissing babies and shaking hands, getting to meet a lot of you in
56:24
the flesh who are always here watching the channel bullshit with you. Still haven't
56:30
had one step of alcohol in four months now, getting my liver ready for
56:34
the three days that we're going to be there, so I will be prepared
56:37
for that. It might be fast, but you might have to have a
56:40
few drinks this week just to crap up and see how you handle it for
56:44
four months a long time. I'm getting less fat for the trip right now,
56:46
Tambo. Nothing nothing going in this body except water and well in cold
56:51
brew. Of course that doesn't count col brew. Did you say we each
56:54
know it's the I looked it up here. It is the Fairmont Scottsdale Prince
57:00
and you can look it up. It's the big viewing party at the plaza.
57:04
It's got everything out there. There's like fifty TVs, private fireside firepit
57:07
tables, all this stuff that it's gonna be a good time. So definitely
57:10
excited for this trip coming up. We got another week ahead of us first
57:14
to handle though. We'll be back for other shows this week. I know
57:15
you get your stream on Wednesday, get back for the emergency stream there.
57:20
I'll be on tonight with Kenny for the Fantasy Golf Degenerates. I'll be on
57:22
tomorrow with Mayo, Tomorrow afternoon with Hoop, and then Wednesday you'll check out
57:28
Djen on the emergency stream there. I'm actually I'm actually doing a betting show
57:30
with Mayo and Cam Wednesday morning, so yeah, so be looking out for
57:35
that. I'm gonna I'm gonna post some some some betting. Yeah, we
57:38
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